Answering My Daughters Toughest Questions.. | Carl & Laura Lentz Get Real

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Start your 7 day trial on the B-Side App today! www.bsideapp.com/pricing Want to give financially to the B-Side? www.paypal.com/paypalme/bsideapp Join our Discord: discord.gg/twESwgg9 Download B-Side today on Apple: apps.apple.com/us/app/b-side-app/id6469474522 Download B-Side today on Android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bsideapp&hl=en_US&pli=1 Want to give financially to the B-Side? www.paypal.com/paypalme/bsideapp 0:00 - Introduction and Context 1:51 - The Lentz's Journey as a Family: The Girls' Perspective 4:14 - Getting to a Place of Forgiveness 8:22 - The Biggest Party in Florida 10:40 - Communicating After the Trauma, How Charlie Found Out 16:40 - Download the BSIDE App 17:26 - Say Goodbye 20:13 - Laura and Carl: Figuring out the Best Way for the Kids 23:37 - The Importance of Being Honest 26:20 - How Ava Found Out 30:13 - What Ava And Charlie Found Out About Laura 31:54 - Starting Over: When to Trust Again 34:04 - Intimacy and Trauma 38:42 - What Ava And Charlie Found Out About Laura 41:53 - Powerful Honesty, and Fighting Frustration 45:05 - What Ava Thinks of Marriage Now 47:02 - We Know too Much 49:36 - What Charlie Thinks of Marriage Now 51:40 - Vulnerability, Accountability and Honesty

[@CyclistTim]

get a job, you are a false teacher

[@AlexBlazier-i2r]

🏳️‍🌈✝️🙏🏻

[@JDF3889]

This man is absolutely beyond blessed to have these unbelievably strong women stick by him and have grace and forgiveness for him.

[@papi77on]

Yes, amen! Jesus be praised: what amazing grace, how sweet the sound...that saves the wretches like me!

[@amymacmillan5673]

I agree!

[@jekamuneca]

This type of transparency will have an immeasurable ripple effect. It is great to hear Christians own up to their mistakes and help people understand why events have occurred instead of brushing it under the rug!

[@mwabachisembele1512]

True!

[@skystar329]

This type of transparency is gold standard No matter what it was, it was written in the bible Look at david, and Solomon and job

[@Jude1918]

U r dumb af for not seeing he’s acting hes tryna be popular again and get clout u dumb fk

[@JesseStevenPollom]

Blown away by Carl’s humility in how he engages with his family. So grateful that God sustained him & his family.

[@beckarampersad8499]

As a pastors daughter during the 80’s and 90’s in a time where everything had to be secret - I’m over the moon moved by your honesty and love for one another . I’m also so thankful that we are in a different place in time where you can all be healed and shine the light for others in crisis. Thanks for your transparency.. And way to love and value your daughters !!

[@user_05160]

Ikr! Honesty in the church is so refreshing!

[@leeashernolan]

this is disgusting to talk about with your children. shame on him

[@itsjordanparkinson]

⁠@@leeashernolanno it isn’t.

[@leeashernolan]

@@itsjordanparkinson super disgusting

[@ebangamuriel]

⁠@@leeashernolan.....no, it's mature. They're not children. They've passed the sex-ed age. No need to continue babying them by lying to them about the reality of their family.

[@newyork-99]

I’m the son of a pastor and also a former pastor. You have no idea how these conversations as a family are so revealing and healing at the same time for me and for this generation. I bet on you guys when everything happened years ago, and I’m so happy with the outcome of this amazing story written in heaven. You guys represented me.

[@Clare-cf5jh]

This entire series is the Gospel. Forgiveness reconciliation rebuilding am so undone by each conversation. The raw emotions tears. Genuinely thank you for your honesty bravery saying that isn't word enough to justify but pray healing for you guys and the ripple effects are eternal to your open conversations with thousands out there dealing with infidelity unforgivness. Simply humbling to behold. 🙏🙌😭

[@ellovdb7728]

"I can feel mad and feel angry and it's still forgiveness" #powerful. Thank you Lentz fam, you are changing the narrative to family trauma, family therapy and better yet, family healing!!!

[@TexasTCmom]

Laura, as a mom, I know you must be so incredibly proud of your girls!! They learned how to be so strong and loving because of your example!!! Carl, please know that inspite of what others may say or think, God is really using you mightily!!!

[@BunnyWatson-k1w]

This is a much needed discussion. Many people think the affair only affects the relationship of a husband and wife. Kids are affected for decades by a parent's affair. If the couple ends up divorcing, that is traumatic for many children. It affects how they see marriage as adults.

[@leeashernolan]

this is no discussion for children.

[@moniquekendrick4863]

I’m so grateful for your conversations. As a survivor of marital infidelity, hearing Carl’s willingness to answer questions and validate that his daughter’s need for answers were a cry from their souls was very cathartic for me. This podcast is a blessing and has added to my therapeutic healing journey. Thank you Lentz family and I will continue to pray for your healing journey.

[@mphol9784]

This is flippin unbelievable. Such maturity and honesty

[@arturozenteno3184]

You will find in this video some gems of pure theology put in practice. As a reformed christian I got the same value in this conversation as listening a Ligonier conference. Hope Carl and his family keep on growing in the faith as they have showed.

[@TimeForReverie]

"Until the end of time I am a waiter at your table." Carl Lentz's comment feels so heartfelt ❤

[@LearsiMusic1]

Should be every man’s attitude:) 💪🏼💪🏼

[@doughboi323]

💯 agree.

[@shellyhutchko5241]

I have walked away from”church” and your situation coincided completely with my immense “church hurt”, which happened at the hands of our pastors who just happen to be our children. At that time…I was one of the people using Carl’s infidelity as a way of pointing to how disingenuous our church leaders had become. I began watching your podcast out of curiosity (so i thought)…but now I see how The Lord is using it to heal parts of me that have been broken for years. I see that reconciliation, restoration and true redemption is available to each of us. I apologize for the judgement that I placed on your family. No one is too far gone for God’s hand to reach. Your honesty, vulnerability,accountability and commitment to living a different life is such evidence of God at work. I am amazed at your countenance, Carl…it shines for Jesus, so much more than it did when you stood on a platform. To God be the Glory. I will commit to keeping your family. In prayer.

[@KamikazeSP06]

Shelly. Idk you. Idk the Lentzes. But I read this comment…..and I am just weeping so heavily while I type this. The tears are just flowing and I can’t stop them. To God be the Glory for reconciliation thru REAL HONESTY. And I am just so grateful that even an ounce of your faith has been restored in the kingdom.

[@tiffren]

Amen!! Thank you for sharing. To God be the Glory!

[@h3artands0uLL]

11:50 that piece Charlie shared about emotions and forgiveness is so profound - helped me a lot

[@starstar6777]

My father cheated on my mother multiple times. Seeing my mother cry when I was a teenager was probably the most painful experience in my life and it still hurts to think about it. She’s doing great now, they got divorced soon after. He didn’t change. But she got stronger and more independent and understands how to appreciate the small things in life. Cheating does have a huge impact on your children.

[@ibabymomx3]

🫂

[@marama49cabrera57]

Proud of your mom!❤ sending you hugs.🫂

[@mammenaley]

I followed the Carl Lentz story with all the inglorious details posted all over social media. Now to witness the beautiful restoration that is happening in your family is so so inspiring. I have the utmost respect for all of u....and look forward to seeing all the good that God has in store for each of u. Respect ....Shanti frm Singapore❤

[@ellebelle8515]

42:20 Even if you come to these sessions with no real positive expectations, I can't imagine that your perspective will remain critical or indifferent after listening to this. Here Ava says it all. The world in general wants to see a family like this pulled apart by a parent's betrayal, as is the typical outcome. When you see the choices made by every family member to remain committed and stand by one another with a commitment to heal and forgive, this is a clear sign of God's miraculous intervention in the hearts of each one and the family unit as a whole. It is rare and incredibly beautiful and should be celebrated as what is possible when hearts are committed to Jesus to allow God's grace and healing. Everyone needs these messages. Thanks Laura, and especially to Ava and Charlie for participating- as well as Roman previously. You bring hope to so many young kids who go through this, that there is absolute restoration after the storms of life.

[@roadcaster9801]

My entire life and personality was shaped by the secrecy from a traumatic event in my family when I was an infant. It is just beautiful to see how open this family is and the healing that has come from that. What I wouldn't have given for a parent to even acknowledge there was a problem. Sadly even today, some topics are just off the table as my parents are too elderly to relive the ordeal. You guys are blessed and I have been blessed listening and watching you make something beautiful out of something so ugly.

[@JelenaVenkamah]

I come from a Christian family with loads of issues, stuffs that still has a massive effect on me and my sister and my parents are separated now… I wish we had a conversation like this…. I always saw you guys differently but after this I admire the effort… you guys are lucky. I wish more families had the strength to do this. God bless u all

[@mirandabissell5176]

Thank you so much for the blessing of sharing a conversation like this. I am walking away from this feeling like a better human and having a better understanding of why I'm trying to do the things I am in my own household. There are benefits on the other side of the hardships that I am looking forward to, and as a parent, it's so comforting to hear how much you kids have benefitted from and appreciated the honesty. Wow!

[@tarataylor6418]

I thought I would despise hearing this because I have been hurt by mega church pastors as a single mom and with a son and daughter. But I can actually see the heart of Laura and hear the love in her eyes and that is huge and I think Charlie and Ava are exceptional girls. I pray this helps them and Roman have great relationships when they are married and have children. I pray that you continue healing and that your empty nest years are craZy fun. This is true transformation, trust and faith- Forgiveness!! Thank you all

[@tonisandford]

I wish I had words to express how thankful I am for these podcasts. I just believe that they are so raw and real, that it gives hope for the churched and unchurched alike. It's not religious or tempered or predictable. We don't deserve to know all this, but thank you for turning the lights on and challenging us all even if we have to get vulnerable and get messy to get honest. Just thank you so very much. And, your family is such an encouragement in your realness and integrity. I applaud the way God is leading you all, and your "Yes".

[@LenaOn_Me]

Welp! Being on the outside of churches having many churchy friends and family members this is awesome! Never ever are conversations this transparent. Not even close. Great jobs ladies and Carl. May God continue with you in your journeys.

[@preciouskasanda7345]

This girl from Zambia 🇿🇲 appreciates the conversations you are having with your children and allowing us into your healing journey and family.

[@elizabethmukendi]

Im from Zambia too😊😊

[@violetmulofwa4013]

Me as well

[@nancyrozewicz1458]

Pastor Carl n Laura. N girls - this is so refreshing. This is beautiful. So many family’s or PK families hide in secret. This shows true grace and favor from the Lord. This is needed to heal and when you fall so hard, you can only get up stronger 😊. God is faithful! This is what beauty from the ashes truly means!

[@rachelwhiddon5343]

I am so blessed by the podcast you are running as a family. Hearing your girls speak and how they have grown in wisdom and have so much respect for you both is beautiful. its true that people sometimes looking into a well known christian family and most would want to take the side of Laura and say she has every right to walk away and to judge Carl for his unfaithfulness. people looking in who dont know the family and do not know God will see things differently. but I am so blessed to see how as this brokenness that hit the family and put Carl on his knees and also Laura in seeking God through how to navigate and heal, to be honest and stay...we do not see that much in church families. divorce happens so much in the world. for Carl to heal and devote himself to healing, repairing, growing and being disciplined himself through this is a huge testament for men world wide that this can be done. And for Laura in the way she handled, prayed and listened to God and went through forgiveness and healing and restoring this is huge....not many women would put up with this. but I wonder if by seeing this couple and of course the family talk about this, through the brokenness of it all God has revealed beauty in healing. And this is what the world needs to see and hear about. rumours in the news and gossiping about one another and seeing people in the way God wants us to see one another in healing and restoring when we fall I pray this is how we do things in church. get healing and restored even when you fall and we will love the person and the family through it. I want to say thank you to the Lentz family for being so vulnerable and open and sharing their heart with the world in how they have healed and still are healing in the journey. Praise God for what he has done!!!!

[@EllieLain]

This episode had me in tears. The healing and restoration is so palpable. Praise Jesus.

[@BukTeef7]

As a sinner myself, this has been a humbling series to watch. While my wife and I haven’t gone through infidelity, it’s easy to imagine the situation and damage it could cause. It’s not something any of us are immune to. I pray that Carl and family will be more bold in their faith in these podcasts. I strongly believe if Carl is bold and preaches the gospel and Jesus boldly in this series and future podcasts, that he will potentially reach more people for Christ than he ever did in the mega church. Your story and what Christ has done for your family is amazing. These podcasts would be excellent opportunities to share the simple truth of the Gospel. Don’t forget to give all the glory to God. Glad to see your family doing well and fighting for its unity. God bless

[@Frenchiezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

This is without a doubt the most incredible thing in the universe. This is the gospel, this is LOVE. I can’t put into words how incredible it is Lentz family. Thank you a million times for sharing this with everyone. I binge watched every episode, non stop cried and talked about it with everyone I could. I admire you as a family as parents and am so inspired. I just canNOT… 😮‍💨

[@fortiechaw1058]

I am so encouraged The devil wants you to be quiet but dear brother you don’t know how much this part of your story has brought to the knowledge that God’s Grace and Mercy is immensely immeasurable I followed the comments and I heard others saying keep it low This is for God’s Glory Certainly the Glory doesn’t belong to any of you Out of the muddy clay he takes us out Covers us He gives us beauty for ashes We do not deserve his love,mercy,grace and kindness yet he God through Jesus Christ we belong to him Glory to God!

[@marykatherinemorris5048]

I love everything you’re doing with this.. not keeping the negative affects of your sin on your family in the darkness.. takes a courageous man to expose how serious all of this is, and ALSO show the silver lining. These things don’t HAVE to be kept in the darkness forever. There is true healing and true forgiveness.

[@niketamarie8394]

Man, I cried at parts of this. I don't even know if I can put into words. How raw and honest this was is unbelievable. All I could think of was, Lord, I pray me and my children reach this level of healing and restoration

[@wdtyourassistant]

This is so real!!!! And to be able to have this conversation with your kids is next level. I am signing up for therapy immediately because I realize I still need to deal with my trauma.

[@MingusJetro]

This was yet again, an amazing and uplifting conversation to listen to. The wisdom there girls have is actually unbelievable. I think my main takeaway is how powerful authenticity and transparency is in the midst of the ugliest moment a family can face. For Carl to accept that he failed God and his family and repent of his Sin, then endure all the ugly and uncomfortable repercussions of his errors out of love for his family and his family to endure all of this and find it in them to forgive him….This is definitely the Grace of God for this family to remain united like this. The “Tell the truth and shame the devil” line comes to mind. he cannot shame this family into division. Thank you guys for sharing your pain and love. 🫡

[@samharrington1679]

Carl I am so proud of the way you are working through this and even more proud of your family as a whole. Don’t know you in real life but as your brother in the Lord, I have been keeping you all in my prayers. The testimony of your full lives like this will bring God far more glory than if you were to live “perfectly”. I believe He is proud of you all, keep running forward towards your crown of Glory. Love you guys.

[@kressten]

Pastor Lentz and his Family are going real, to see this side is something. I appreciate your vulnerability

[@h3artands0uLL]

The offender doesn’t get to say what’s important to the others. If it matters to you, it’s important. Powerful

[@Stacie_Sheree]

It’s obvious to anyone who has watched or listened to you that you are here for big and great things. I’ve been waiting to see what gold you created from that very hard time which in hindsight seems like just another one of gods interventions to redirect you to where the growth is really needed. Well done to you all. What amazing examples. The world needs more of this grace.

[@cocobrownpm]

This is so healing. Thank you for your transparency. We need more pastors to tell the truth like this.

[@h3artands0uLL]

Love Ava’s perspective of facing the trauma head on, getting angry is a way to divert from that

[@rosadecastro8037]

God bless this family. I pray for their continued healing and favor as their lives are a testimony of Gods grace.

[@aishaskye111]

This is genuinely my favorite podcast ever of all time. I feel encouraged and faith filled after every episode! Thank you for how frequently you post them! Can you guys talk about your take on emotional abuse or even just those toxic cycles that can happen in marriage where it’s good until he is triggered, then it’s bad, back and forth. I love what Ava was starting to get into at the end about hashing stuff out, that’s what prompted the question. As well as like what to do when he isn’t taking accountability or responsibility… again, more talking about toxic cycles and emotional abuse, not physical or adulterous.

[@gracetelfer3588]

God is doing a new thing with you Carl. You are blessed to have all these amazing women's forgiveness.

[@GabrielaLaba-n2s]

Watching this video, I can only see God's grace and mercy in this family! Laura, you really are the Proverb 31 woman! You have all my admiration! What the devil tried to destroy, God used it for his glory! May God bless your family!

[@Flyingfree707]

So beautiful to see this communication and togetherness despite everything. Love forgives despite, but it does first take coming together and facing it 💕

[@MadisonRooney-l4g]

These are some awesome children! Very strong and mighty

[@freetobe15]

I'm happy to see God's restoration at work in your family! What a good family you guys made!

[@goldendancert7394]

🙌🏽God the way your girls talk about you Laura is phenomenal, these open conversations set the bar for how a healthy healing family can communicate. Love itttttt ❤❤❤

[@LearsiMusic1]

1. I love the podcast, so beautiful and needed ! 2. Laura a beast!! 3. Kids are so grown up in character 4. Carl be crying too much 😂

[@jessasmrcd]

Let the man cry 😭

[@LearsiMusic1]

@@jessasmrcd alright alright 🤣

[@nrb1989]

This version of him is the one that God's wants the world to see. I think we can all learn something from this!

[@KamikazeSP06]

I’m crying too, bruh. So lump me on in with him 🥹

[@lesegom347]

Thank you for doing this. Appreciate every bit. Don’t allow any negativity to derail you. This is big. God bless and strengthen you. From South Africa 🇿🇦

[@feleshaheaven1723]

Whoaa!! The transparency…! I just watched the int(trailer) and I applaud this family…the healing from this will be immeasurable 🩶 Blessings

[@Christine-ux5lw]

I just started this episode and I’m already bawling. Thanks for getting so real. Real life stuff 😢Real life talks with your kids wow.

[@lakinkoester2212]

This is really helpful for my heart, thank you for sharing something so intimate within your family.

[@JtinaM26]

This felt honest, much appreciated

[@ngogabarnabas6989]

My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness. Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 2 Corinthians 12:8 We are witnessing the reality of 2 Corinthians 12:8 and Carl’s greatest sermon (with your family). This is the Scandal of Grace. Bless you

[@4321sonja]

Your story is a beautiful story of redemption. I aspire to have such an open and beautiful relationship with my husband and children. I am learning so much through your conversations with each other. All glory to God for this beauty from ashes.

[@jennyc5100]

You all are phenomenal. Your daughters are exquisite-articulate and extraordinary. Your journey is deeply impactful to me and many others. You are trailblazers. Trailblazers have the hardest job, because there is no pathway yet. People are sure they won’t make it. They hack away at weeds and thorny bushes. They lose their way and daily, fight the urge to pack it in and quit-disband and go back. But the result of that excruciating work is you are closer-and you made a path that others can now follow. Even though your son was not in this particular video, I include him in this. He, too, is mighty and courageous. Blessings to you all forever. Sending love.❤

[@heatherhuang6404]

Good job, Laura and Carl for doing the hard work to be honest and allowing your children to process in their own way. You are brave and have followed the wisdom given to you even when it hurt. And isn’t that where freedom comes?

[@Wanjikupopsie]

Am just blessed by this family ,your transparency and honesty is a blessing, continue to share and just keeping God first it's key. It's because of the mercy of God that we are all here

[@stravinsky_humba]

This family is a blessing ❤❤❤

[@KamikazeSP06]

Welp. You did it Carl. You made me cry with you. 🤦🏽‍♂️ I was in shambles on this one. This is really pushing me to be better and follow up with my wife on some of our past trauma. Whew Lord, this broken vessel. 🥺🙌🏽 Bravo Lentz family.

[@mashamorim]

Your kids are so incredibly articulate and mature with how they speak and process things! So amazing how they are walking through that and learning that at such a young age! I’m just scratching the surface at 28 and still have some ways to go!! Teach them young and help direct them towards healing vs reacting and being apart of and a victim of unhealed trauma for the rest of their lives! But actually walking and thoroughly talking through it! Thank you Jesus for redemption!!♥️

[@deborarodriguez9899]

I’ve watch all your podcast I’m a pastors kid my dad past and my mom but my dad went thru the same thing but in my time it was taboo to talk about it’s so beautiful to watch your stories and help others my dad never confessed or took accountability because he had no one I’m happy you guys are doing this tho my issues were years ago these videos have helped my trauma ❤️

[@kimdean9085]

Beautiful conversations...you guys have to be incredibly proud of these young women. Power of doing the WORK!

[@Lisa.Padgett]

I tell you…the honesty and pure wisdom from this has impacted me so much! No relationship to apply these points to but just LIFE! So grateful for how God has brought “light” to your precious family and how you are so selflessly sharing it to bring “light” to all of us (aka me) in our lives! I just wish I could hug all of you (and the dogs) ☺️ after watching this! God bless you more and more Lentz family🤍

[@sbrightpink]

I ❤ this! What a rare vulnerable look into a family’s way of coping with their crisis and how you can come out stronger and healthier ❤❤❤

[@hisirihwyd]

The kids are incredible I can’t lie

[@fionaduplessis7521]

This is absolute beautiful podcast - thank you for being real and sharing. Especially with the whole family. All blessings to everyone and to you as a family. Keep each other close and protect each other🙏

[@Sara-fv8hg]

Not going to lie I have judged dude and hate what happened for his wife but when you make choices that ruin your career, family you know it and can't come back from it so most people would hide in their shame and pray to fall out of the lights. my judgement has turned into respect we are all growing Christians progressing in our faith walks and God forgives us in abundance. it takes a brave family to help others process this in their own lives. complete respect now

[@patriciosantos1495]

Thank you for sharing this with so much honesty 🇧🇷

[@emanueldl67]

Hearing Hector's laugh just made this episode better 😂

[@gaylahoyt]

Welcome to Tulsa! I hope you & your family find community here. Look forward to seeing more from y’all.

[@elizabethwollmann1099]

Wow ! Carl thanks for being real and humble and owning your mistakes and loving your family so well , 👏🇨🇦

[@tm-bk5gj]

You young girls are amazing. You keep your heads up.❤

[@h3artands0uLL]

30:00 love the admiration they have for their mom ❤

[@EveRen18]

I wish my dad had access to this type of content when he first cheated and probably him and I could have a better relationship. I have forgiven him and our relationship is better but that stain will always be there. Not a lot is talked about the effect of this act on children, especially, girls. I had to learn a lot on my own because for a long time I tried to find my dad in the men I dated and that ,unfortunately, led me to date toxic men. Thankfully I am happily married to an incredible man and I am not hoping or trying to find my dad in him. Healing takes time and having this content available helps on that journey.

[@dededinah2]

So appreciate your honesty! It is so good for people to hear and so glad that you are completely honest with your daughters.❤️

[@walton760]

Yes Carl … Laura (your bride) … walked down the aisle … for you 🎤 🫳🏼 … cheering for your family

[@F8ra]

This conversation is just beautiful. Thank you for sharing this to us

[@Daisy67-s7c]

Y'all have my heart. Again, and a million times over...every word ABSOLUTELY TRUE. God bless every one of you! Don't stop. So needed. So right. This is what Right looks like with Christ doing His transformative work. Pray for my family... still waiting for it to happen for us. The truth about everything is the only way... because He IS the Truth and the Way.

[@MsRaquelD]

"the dogs are high" hahaha....i love that after all of this, they can all sit down and talk about the hard, dark stuff. Amazing.

[@ellebelle8515]

Added to my other comment, your beautiful dogs reclining on/next to their beloved family are a true sign that there is peace in your home.

[@austinguther7762]

When we Walk in the Light, we have FELLOWSHIP WITH ONE ANOTHER, and the Blood of Christ CLEANSES us from from ALL sin. (This is what the Lentz family is living out right now. May they be an example for the whole Church throughout the nations that we as the Bride are called to such purity - God's judgements for the Church are GOOD and LOVING and JUST, with the purpose of bringing us into RIGHTEOUSNESS and FELLOWSHIP with Him.) When we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to FORGIVE us and CLEANSE us from ALL unrighteousness. Father I thank You for Your grace and mercy over the Lentz family and for redirecting them into Your righteousness through forgiveness and repentance. I bless them to be able to continue on this beautiful and narrow path with strength, joy, and peace in Jesus' mighty name, Amen.

[@doughboi323]

Every husband and father of children, needs to listen to these weekly podcasts.

[@Seektruth65]

Great conversation. Thank you all for sharing your journey.

[@achienghellen3910]

Indeed let there be light ❤

[@daumantasivanauskas8687]

Wow, guys you are surreal team! I am in awe of how you handle the situation, unified together. Such an inspiration, I can tell there is.bunch of therapy with super pro's. Wowowowow... sending you all the love ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kalaaybar1217]

Hello, Carl and Laura. Thanks for sharing all these free insights to such a devastating situation. I have been watching since episode One. My husband and I were members of NYC Hillsong. You actual knew my husband briefly when he was helping in the green room. Anyways I would love to hear how both of your parents have responded to your journey and where they are at in the process. Do they support this new chapter? I'm also very interested to know how your experience has been becoming members of a church and being on the other side. Such a great story of recovery. Thank you for your transparency that we were not owed. I pray many more years of marriage and growth to your family and the next generations 🙏🏻

[@crystalramos3531]

Praise God, what an amazing podcast. This is what the God of the impossible can do!!💕

[@fitzzy72]

Appreciate the honesty and vulnerability. Much love to you all.

[@amberanderson8524]

Thank you for such beautiful authenticity. It's an unbelievable gift ❤

[@reneebananamusic]

your family is such a blessing

[@user_05160]

We need more of this in the church! Real conversations about real life!

[@nicolassamuel9963]

wow . What a story . You should be proud

[@Fifi.G76]

As much as this content is going to be helpful for other people, this must be very hard on this family to relive the traumatic events of their lives . Healing is messy! I have high respect for you all. To Carl Lentz yes your family went through a lot because of the choices you made BUT you were brave enough to stay and take full accountability and have difficult and embarrassing conversations with all your family members . You were brave enough to stay and heal together with everyone and brave enough to open a door for correction, accountability and open conversations. I am not making excuses for the mistakes you made, it still hurts it still affected masses BUT Not many of us are able to do what you did and you are still willing to sit down and talk things out. This must be triggering for everyone but at the same time the beauty of triggers for a person on a healing journey is that they expose sensitive areas which still need work . I wish stone throwers would assess their lives first because no one is perfect. In this life there will be fatalities we will hurt others and others will hurt us but will you be that person that chooses to make the independent decision to love when it is hard and forgive and stay and work things out? Will you be that person that says I have hurt innocent people and I am willing to stay and do whatever it takes and create a space for healing for all? Laura I commend you for shouldering the responsibility to stay and personally heal and love again and trust again when it was hard. Either choice was hard anyways leaving was going to be hard and staying was going to be hard and I respect you for staying and allowing yourself , your husband and children to heal together.

[@h3artands0uLL]

That party they described sounds awesome 😂😂 Laura too, funny being all like 🤳🏼😁 📸 Hahaa sounds fun

[@nihinlolawaalao8264]

This is beautiful to see

[@zabrealwynne9652]

God restores….PERIOD😢