💥 Amanda Knox: Is She Really Innocent?

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

Scott Rouse: BodyLanguageTactics.com Mark Bowden: TruthAndLies.ca Chase Hughes: ChaseHughes.com Greg Hartley: BodyLanguageTactics.com

[@CarloRegadasGuitar]

Superb stuff, as always lads. If you could do Dan Burisch, that would be brilliant. He has hours of video interviews on KZbin, where he talks about working at Area S4 at Papoose Lake, Area 51. He also discusses at scientific length, about stargates, working with extraterrestrials, reverse engineered anti gravity crafts, the "Looking Glass", Majestic 12 etc. It's fascinating stuff and completely believable, with the detailed, scientific information and ease of which the story is told. I'd be absolutely fascinated to see if you lads think he's being deceitful. Excellent work Chase, Mark, Greg and Scott and thoroughly informative and entertaining.

[@britbitchmyname]

Guys, I'm utterly fascinated by your videos, it's a humbling reminder of how deep the rabbit hole really goes and you certainly made my lockdown experience mode interesting so thank you. If you're looking for another video to discuss, and you'd like to make a fan very happy, I'd really like to know what you make of the "interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus". It's not your usual content but your observations on this video reminded me of it. I've never, ever seen someone's face contort like hers does and it's really bothered me since I watched the video. Disturbed me, actually. I'd just love to hear your opinions because it's a cluster of behaviours I just don't recognise, let alone understand. Thanks again!

[@donnabarlow6941]

Are opposing views bring deleted here? Are we in Russia?

[@donnabarlow6941]

@@AussieInsider They're not interesting in solving crimes, more like selling books and courses and making a name for themselves, at Amanda expense.

[@jojersey4081]

One more thing on the nasty poo...I bet if you asked her family and some close friends they would admit that when she gets scared her stomach starts acting up.

[@victoriakannan]

This video sums up what I like about each of these men and what they bring to the table. I truly appreciate their differences and varying knowledge for us to learn from. I don't think this panel would be half as successful and captivating if any one of these men were removed. 1. Mark | Storytelling, narrative, diction He is able to find patterns and bring underlying tones to the surface that identifies the truth behind the words. Also, he always bring to light more socially centered examples which are very relatable to viewers. 2. Scott | Personable relation, mentorship, context framing He speaks in a manner that makes you feel like he is right there with you, and there to teach you. It's a sense of mentorship and ability to make things resonate with the viewer as if he was doing this one on one. Super approachable. 3. Greg | Veteran of technique, relentless, thorough He brings an air of confidence that is not arrogant, but rather firm and resolved. You trust what he says because you can tell he's seen it, heard it, lived it. An absolute wealth of knowledge that effortlessly spills out. 4. Chase | Facts, Case Studies, Teacher He always speaks in a slower manner so as to give time to the viewer to take in and comprehend what he is saying. He is straight facts which is crucial to teaching those who are willing to listen. Also, probably the most impressive memory recall for studies and papers that I have ever seen. Thank you, guys, for these videos. I'm learning so much, and am excited to keep learning. I truly appreciate you all.

[@ELITExADAM]

Beautiful words

[@jillgott6567]

Well said

[@jillgott6567]

Well said !

[@richardoliveira153]

This is the reason why the videos are so enjoyable and easy to listen to the very end.. which says a lot about it considering the lenght of the videos. And that's why people who knew ZERO about this stuff (like me) keep coming and learning. Because you actually want to learn more. You know its not gonna be boring (they even make it sound fun at times) and you already felt it does help you in your life, and you know you will learn more almost effortlessly. It really is for everybody. Pretty sure this Channel Will get even bigger, as long as they keep it up.

[@BushaBandulu]

💯 Facts! 🔥🧨👏🏾

[@coolbeans8900]

My 4 uncles telling me essentially the kind of people to stay away from

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

LOL

[@hlowrylong]

Except that if any of these guys (except sweeter, more emphatic Mark) interrogated me, I would likely admit to something I didn’t do. 😜 False Positive!! Yes Chase!! Yes Greg & Scott, I WAS ON THE GRASSY KNOLL!!! (even though born in ‘71!!!!).....

[@harrybo9608]

Babushka!

[@harrybo9608]

,. Were you man in dress babushka??

[@reneet5858]

@@hlowrylong 🤣

[@stephaniemorrissey123]

Does anyone else get thrown off of the guys aren't in "their" squares??

[@thecozyconstellation]

yes, it's all wrong LOL

[@deborabowlin8950]

lol...yes

[@halokittiekat]

Yes, it's so weird

[@katrinat.3032]

Mark needs to be bottom right , so that his horizontal piece of wall art points to the center of their 4 boxes. 😀

[@pollymiller1035]

Yes I do get confused. Initially I thought Mark had changed his furniture around!!

[@theresagargett-lyons6173]

Don't you think years in a foreign prison, hundreds of interrogations in a secondary language, and at least three trials with a prosecutor subsequently found to be corrupt...might have affected the way she tells the story????

[@hnr4994]

Spot on

[@daynadrn111]

Great point

[@Gilloringsend]

Yes not as if she’s telling the story for the first time hours after the event. Was she asked to recount it as if it just occurred

[@deniseknicely783]

@@theresagargett-lyons6173 No. Because if it is the truth it would be the same story all the time.

[@greghartley9975]

Thanks for all the comments. Remember when we point out red flags those are causes to dig deeper not end all statements. They drive micro interview.

[@sagittariusmoon1043]

Hello Greg xx great videos 😎 keep them coming.

[@Aprillfools]

hi Greg :)

[@nicolagraham1678]

@@mcfortunato28 I can't help feeling you may be bias due to a bad experience you've encountered. It is not the panels problem that some of the listeners don't actually listen properly. They have already said it's not about being guilty or not of the murder, it's about what these world experts 'see' on these videos only.

[@lunaava8668]

greg hartley But the title belongs in a tabloid newspaper....

[@micaelaowen6217]

@@mcfortunato28 They actually did explain this

[@tsveno72]

Never ever switch Mark and Chase’s onscreen positions. We need consistency!

[@katrinat.3032]

Mark Needs to be on the bottom right because that antique horizontal art on his wall points to the center of the four pictures in the screen. It is more relaxing for your eyes when Mark is in the bottom right.

[@sophiewhite3140]

@@katrinat.3032 also it's super amusing when he doesn't know where to point to the subscribe button :D

[@ELITExADAM]

🤣🤣

[@suebelzer6536]

That's their baseline.

[@eileenboles8645]

@@katrinat.3032 Have to disagree!

[@GD-gf8mg]

Im starting a 'Go Fund Me' to upgrade Gregs internet connection.

[@scattygirl1]

Where do I donate?

[@kimbercoleman7089]

Me too...

[@karikells]

maybe he lives in an area where that's the best he can get? sadly, i can relate. i live "in the boonies" where there truly are not the same great options that folks in town have.

[@ppgedez]

G D Nice one, that literally nearly made me laugh out loud. 🙂✌️

[@smpotts173]

@@karikells Hi Kat! that's what I was thinking. Either high - speed is not available, or he's the cheapest guy on EARTH!

[@Miroberta1234]

My heart goes out to you Greg. I felt sick when you spoke of your own child dying and described your loss. Every parent’s greatest fear. I wish you and your wife only goodness in your lives.

[@shaunawoodward1295]

These videos could be 4 hours long and I would be engaged the whole time! Excellent content.

[@cindycallahan3909]

Same here, Shauna!

[@monicadehek5484]

In college I had a few roommates and most of the drama was centered around cleanliness... the most clean roommate pitted against the most messy with the rest of us caught it the middle

[@hamishaustin5538]

Just found your channel yesterday and immediately loved the chemistry between you all! 👌 So humble, so knowledgable and so good to watch! 👏

[@costinpatru5450]

No, this is wrong: Chase is on the right and Mark is on the left. This goes against ANYTHING that's HOLY!

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

LOL

[@katharineshade9550]

I know, completely threw me for a loop!

[@jensensadler101]

I love your work.. I’d personally like to see you discuss Robert Wagner & Christopher Walker re Natalie Wood xxx

[@ASMRTingledPink]

Ooooo! Yes! That would be a great one for sure.

[@clodaghmcsharry5232]

Yes Natalie Woods death very suspicious and always felt Robert Wagner is guilty in some way !

[@lbca81]

Great suggestion

[@sleepingdogslie]

​@@ASMRTingledPink So funny Pink, you said exactly what I thought. OOOOO yes!

[@joanneblack7697]

Yes. Good one! 🙏

[@seanboi]

The Bromance between Scott and Chase is one of the best things that's come out of this channel.

[@sagicari9694]

I just love mark, he is pure entertainment

[@viscontialice]

At the very beginning of the investigations, Amanda accused Patrick Lumumba, who owned a pub in Perugia, where occasionally Meredith worked as waitress, to be the murderer, claiming that they were spending the night together in Meredith's room. He spent 14 days in jail before a Swiss professor testified to have spent that night with him and no trace of him was ever found at the crime scene. She keeps on portraying herself as an innocent lamb, but what she did to Patrick Lumumba remains ignoble and criminal. She was sentenced to three years for this crime. What mostly drew the media attention on Amanda was her behaviour, she laughed, she joked, no tears, no grief for the gruesome murder of her roommate. She never said a word of compassion for Meredith and her family.

[@aie_aie_]

You're right. No honest person would do that.

[@lauradove1240]

One question for the panel: When you are concerned about someone's safety and well-being and you're knocking/banging on the door, you call out. You quietly question the person behind the door as you knock "gently", you bang and shout... it's unnatural to knock and listen without calling their name. I found this curious in Knox's recounting of events, that she never spoke Meredith's name when referring to this series of events, either at the time or in the retelling. Would you bang on a door in concern of someone's well-being, to the point where you try to break down the door, without at least once shouting their name? Is this not a significant incongruence, and casts doubt on Knox's version of events? I was also surprised this point was not addressed by any member of the panel in their assessment of Knox's truthfulness. Thoughts?

[@spooky.mama.]

I do some of these things due to being awkward or social anxiety, I wonder how many people have thought I’m a liar lol

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

(Scott here) Not many probably. Because the things we are pointing out or in this specific situation only. In body language you must take everything into consideration. Why is the person there, why are they explaining something to you, is this situation outside or inside, are they eating, are they standing talking to you In the office, Is that person in a group of people talking, what is the situation and what is happening around it in real time? Those are the things you need to think about when you worry about someone thinking you’re being dishonest. If you were just being you, then that’s fine. So don’t you worry about those kinds of things. There are no absolutes in body language. :-)

[@spooky.mama.]

The Behavior Panel You actually wrote back! I’m such a huge fan, you’re brilliant! But yes, of course you’re right, it depends on the situation. Didn’t think of that. I’ve heard you can tell when someone is lying because their ears get red. But I’m sure that doesn’t happen to everyone.

[@smpotts173]

@@TheBehaviorPanel Hi Guys! My best friend 's husband and I are similar in so many ways. I felt so relieved when my friend told me quite a while back, he does this also. We'll relate details of almost anything and not realize we haven't actually spoken the most important ones , which sometimes causes the statement, story, etc to make no sense, or sound crazy. He and I both have woken up seeing vivid colors for a split second, also. Our doodles look so much alike, my girlfriend saw mine on the table and was briefly sure they were his. Were both successful and artists. We both have been used to picturing things and it's usually fine. But once or twice I've done it and not realized I omitted details. I wasnt accused of anything really. I just looked like a flake. Fortunately someone called and just asked me. I was just a witness, but I get so worried now, I'll often make several annoying follow up calls over nothing. My girlfriend's husband cannot do math but is an electrical contractor, and was a marine engineer. He has a tremendous memory and just memorizes schematics. I call him "The smart half" I could NEVER do that, but my eyes have popped open at 3AM with an answer to a question I didn't know I had. I would be terrified to take a polygraph , not because I'd be told I was lying, but just screw the whole thing up badly. Have you found this in interviews where the person realizes at the end they've accidentally left out a crucial detail? Ohhh, I remember in 6th grade, I knew the answer to a math story problem, but not how to explain it and the male teacher (parents age) tried to force me to make an equation, and I was in a complete panic. I stayed home from school for a week. My parents were divorced so no male to intervene. I was just as afraid he'd find out and think he could be meaner.

[@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg]

She staged two fake break ins, criminal “lies” and remains convicted of the serious one to hide the murder. She framed an innocent man. She changed her story numerous times, lies, although her admitting to being there makes sense. I honestly don’t know how anyone can believe this woman is innocent.

[@smpotts173]

@@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg This is the most succinct comment, and a clear reminder without all the distracting hoopla, of how this was likely not this young lady's first rodeo when it comes to lying.

[@tkondaks]

Rudy Guede, the fellow doing time for Meredith Kercher's murder, has done only one interview since the murder. It's part of a two hour documentary that appeared on Italian TV. I would love to see the Panel do an analysis of Rudy from this show, which is available on youtube in its entirety with English subtitles.

[@KelseyPaige1984]

You mean the FELLOW who was quietly tucked away, convicted of a lesser crime and does not have to live with the burden of being forever associated with Meredith's death. All because the crazy prosecutor had a hard on for Amanda Knox. Not only was Guede's DNA everywhere in Meredith's bedroom including her body but it was the only DNA found at the murder scene! Guede originally claimed Amanda Knox was not there to a friend prior to his arrest then after he's arrested changes his story & agrees to testify AGAINST Amanda Knox which resulted in less jail time for him & thus why he is a FREE MAN TODAY!! It's disgusting how he alone raped & brutally murdered Meredith yet he walks free completely capable of doing the same thing to another innocent women!

[@RonSteinroth]

@@KelseyPaige1984 totally correct. Do these guys know she was innocent, the evidence proved she couldn't have done the crime?? I'd be really embarrassed if I was them.

[@KelseyPaige1984]

@@RonSteinroth I know right, I honestly didn't think that this many people still thought she was guilty!

[@peterf08]

@@RonSteinroth what evidence points out she didn't do it?

[@pnwnative4465]

@@peterf08 these two didn’t watch the beginning of the video where the panel clearly calls out how they are looking at this case based solely on the interview footage. They say they are not considering any of the dna or other pieces of evidence, since that’s not their expertise. Also, the evidence doesn’t prove she didn’t do it. It actually proves she was there for the murder, but was inconclusive if she specifically did the killing or just the clean up. Evidence proved she washed the victims blood off of her, which was commingled with her own blood.

[@alla9859]

Mark's remarks are my favorite most of the time!! 😉There's so much insight in what he gets/perceives on top of the general behavioral stuff that is usually commented on. Chase also comes up with very interesting details. My two favorite to pay attention to. Thank you. You are all good and the whole success is having the four of you together, of course; don't get me wrong. It's just... is it OK to have favorites? 🙈

[@FrankNFurter1000]

I would like to know more about Mark's hair routine.

[@whoswhoo]

He needs to wash it daily

[@userrg7325]

She strikes me as someone who spends a lot of time speaking/interacting with foreigners/people whose first language is not English. I lived abroad with foreigners and have spent a lot of time in the US with people who are learning English. The way she speaks (e.g. irregular phrases, such as "his pipe had gone loose") reminds me of how I spoke at that point of my life.

[@youejtube7692]

Yes, I spent several years working and living with people who were all from non-native English speaking backgrounds and my own native English had to become very simple and almost Pidgeon-English, so they could understand me. As I now work mostly alone, still to this day my English vocabulary is very simple and I use phrases that are not grammatically correct but easily understood by ESL folks. Innit.

[@userrg7325]

@@youejtube7692 I think the use of the word "indeed" may have come from spending time around foreigners who learned this word in English class and know what it means so she's continued to use it

[@justsnappy]

Great point! I always tell people that are critical of non-native speakers’ errors in English to pay close attention because that is often the rule in their native tongue. For example, double negatives are the rule in Spanish but are wrong in English.

[@youejtube7692]

@@userrg7325 You may indeed be right! I, indeed, also use the word indeed. :)

[@userrg7325]

@@fishbuffalo18 I did not think "indeed" was an indication of deception. I just brought it up as an example of my point, above - that her style of speech may be due to spending time with non-native English speakers.

[@heatherepperson1392]

“I’ve never met anybody who saw poop in the toilet and thought, ‘Hmm, there’s been a crime.’” Chase Hughes 2020 😂😂

[@natashapeeters988]

That's a good one! 😅😄😉

[@shannonwhipkey7197]

Heather Epperson it’s just a “crime” to leave poop in the toilet

[@heatherepperson1392]

Shannon Whipkey right?! 😂😂

[@chasehughesofficial]

I’m having this framed.

[@heatherepperson1392]

Chase Hughes 😂😂😂

[@hilarygibson3150]

I understand what you are all saying about the way she tells the story, but wouldn't it be normal after multiple repetitions of the same story, would you not stick in bits like taking the mop because she has learned that previous interviewers will ask for clarification, so she now mentions it.

[@samijo_bb]

I’m sure so many of us would love to see a panel on your take on Casey Anthony’s body language and let us know your thoughts and opinions!!!

[@DanielleFerreira-kt7ix]

Good one, too!

[@user-tj1rf5bf7q]

That would be cool but the general consensus is that Casey is guilty but had luck at her trial whereas we still speculate if Amanda is gulty or not...but could be interesting to see from a behavioral point of view

[@judegrindvoll8467]

Sure but it would be interesting to get an expert opinion the potential whys of the case based on her behaviour

[@KaraLey98]

I Don't know if Casey makes herself available for interviews anymore. I do think it would be fascinating to have her father's behavior under questioning, or during storytelling checked out by the Panel since I've heard that there are claims of him helping to hide evidence after the fact.

[@katrinat.3032]

Casey Anthony would be interesting because she may be lying, we all believe she lied and was involved in the death of her daughter. But she had a confusing upbringing and lied a lot her whole life so there may have been a part of her brain that didn’t understand truth or reality. I would think that would makeReading the body language that much more complex

[@8Namaste]

There is a comment below that suggests a woman on the panel might be warranted. I, a woman myself, like the panel just the way it is. The dynamics between you all just work so well. Please keep The Behavior Panel just the way it is!!!!

[@rickytavilla4259]

8Namaste They had a women on like a month ago she was great

[@lisas7111]

I agree... no need for extras.. i didn't like the last one...

[@sariejager1858]

Yeah I agree.

[@karistone1297]

8Namaste agreed. I love the dynamics of just these four. They bounce of each other so well.

[@penelopepitstop46]

I concur! The 4 are perfect. They've had a woman guest before it was meh. These 4 each bring a unique perspective and have such great chemistry.

[@SchlichteToven]

I think Mark's on to something with Amanda's story having an overall theme of people who are clean and people who are not (around 56:50) - even her detail about leaving the house after first seeing the blood and poop - where was she going? To her boyfriend's house, with a mop of all things, to clean up water on the floor in his kitchen. I've never seen anyone walking down the street with a mop. And what is he doing while she's mopping his house? Cleaning himself, in the shower. Strangeness.

[@cressidaclarke8036]

Always found it extremely odd that she goes into the house, notes the open door and the blood - and then takes a shower.

[@Helenwheels370]

The door being open had a perfectly plausible explanation verified by the Italian roommates: the latch was broken and, if just pulled closed, would blow open. It had to be locked with the key. Just pulling it shut would be plausible if someone was just running out for a few minutes or downstairs and didn't want to be bothered locking it. The only blood Knox saw before taking her shower was a couple of small dried drops on the faucet/tap. It would be normal to think your roommate had a small accident or that it was from your own infected ear piercing and not to jump to the conclusion that a murder had taken place. There was very little visible blood in the bathroom; it was not the 'blood covered' bathroom many people think it was. Police photos and video prove this and the responding police even testified the amount of blood was "not concerning".

[@littlesmith5005]

​@@Helenwheels370 You know damn well she killed that girl!

[@Helenwheels370]

@@littlesmith5005 What a silly comment. You're assuming to know what I know. You don't. If you're so sure that she did, then please present the evidence because the 5 Supreme Court judges disagree with you. I bet you've never read the court documents and get your 'facts' on the case from KZbin.

[@deniseknicely783]

@@cressidaclarke8036 because she is selling story. She is guilty. If you see blood in a bathroom and feces in another toilet, an innocent person would get the f out of there and possibly flush the toilet which she did not. So either she is a dirty innocent skank that leaves toilets unflushed for no reason or a guilty fing murderer who knew who left this and left it to implicate him. She also says she came upon an open door and didn’t go to every single room until she brought her boyfriend back there after supposedly taking a shower in this mess? Please people. She was only there to get a mop. She knew exactly what happened there. Clean up the the scene at her boyfriend’s place, bring him back there and call the police on this fake staged break in. Her boyfriend did not kick that door in of Meredith’s room or he would have been successful. They knew what was behind there. Call a staged break in and say “‘nothing was taken” from another roommate’s room. How the f do you know this? Were they privy of everything Filomena had in her room? This was an actual 911 call or the equivalent of Italian and you can listen to Raf Sollecito on there. Apparently he knows all of Filomena’s belongings. Knox accused an innocent man of murder in 2 hours of an interrogation she testified in full Italian the police were nice to her. The police weren’t trying to implicate her they knew she was there it was completely obvious she was present at this murder so she named someone. They weren’t stupid this woman and her boyfriiend also turned their phones off during the time of the murder. She implicated her own boss who had nothing to do with this. If you are innocent and never been at a crime you don’t implicate anybody it doesn’t matter if it is two hours in. The police held this man for two weeks and cleared him. That poor man jailed like that. If the Italian police just wanted to string someone up they would have made it stick right? They weren’t interested in just anyone they were interested in justice. Rudy Guede has DNA all over that room and has said to this day as now a free man he was trying to save her life and he was the only one there when she was dying and the others fled. Knox had mixed DNA with Meredith in that apartment and it was also on a knife of Raf Sollecito her boyfriend. His DNA was on a bra clasp he cut off. The Italian police created reasonable doubt because even though it was a clean crime scene, they waited weeks to collect everything. The prosecutor makes up this whole sex game gone wrong theory. All he needed to do was focus on these two roommates and how filthy Knox was to Meredith. Nobody should believe Amanda’s story and if this happened in the US she would still be locked up, probably for life.

[@deniseknicely783]

@@Helenwheels370 leave people alone you are paid by Amanda Knox.

[@LisaD007]

As an applied behavior analyst, I am particularly interested in watching you guys in action and seeing what you have to say. Needless to say, I always learn something. Keep up the great work!

[@Rossiegirl]

I would love for you to do a show on Casey Anthony.

[@bonniejane01]

Yes!!!

[@scottkelley7555]

I thought they did

[@Rossiegirl]

@@scottkelley7555 I haven't seen it, maybe I missed it.

[@MikeLarry37]

The only emotion (if any) she seems to try to convey is confusion. If I was listening to her story it'd be hard not to have a million questions. So hooked on this channel.

[@taghiabiri3489]

😂 „first thing you do when the front door is open is to call the cops“ 😂 man, I would never do that! This is definitely an American thing. Greetings from Europe!

[@morticiaheisenberg9679]

I have a gun. Even being a female, and by myself. If my door is open, then something is definitely not okay. My husband and I always make sure doors are locked. I would call the police, then hang up and go in, gun out and ready.

[@whitsfiryellnogobyye]

I was thinking that too. If the front door was open and I shared the home with a few other housemates, I'd first think one of them just didn't close it properly. Amanda also stated the door was faulty so that wouldn't have been a shock that a faulty door was ajar.

[@naturalverities]

If using big words indicates guilt, my culpability is unprecedentedly brobdingnagian!

[@sandbach7195]

@Redwood Rebelgirl I concur!!!

[@shezzawezza9231]

Imagine these 4 being your uncles and meeting a new partner, they would each have a 100 page report by the end of the week after analysing them 😂 xx

[@lovearttherapyalways]

Oh how that could have saved me from narcissistic men... although now I know what to look for, but had to learn the hard way! Love these 4!

[@nancylpr]

😂🤣😂😂

[@Blue-hf7xt]

Partner… who would want a business partner meet their uncles?

[@amandasmythe3274]

R.I.P. Meredith

[@cherrylrose9200]

$7f7$f7

[@amandasmythe3274]

@@cherrylrose9200 Not a clue of what you write.

[@RonSteinroth]

They caught Guede, he did it and was convicted, so how do you mean?

[@amandasmythe3274]

@@RonSteinroth he wasn't the only one who took part in her slaughter that night, my opinion.

[@RonSteinroth]

@@amandasmythe3274 who would have helped guede and why?

[@kurikong2379]

I would be more concerned about her previous mental state before the event. She might be in the spectrum without knowing because as a person with ADHD, I can totally see myself telling a story this way and doing all those nervous micro gestures. Poor social skills, obsessing over details, getting sidetracked with the story, trying to be as logical as possible, laughing in inappropriate moments. Yep, I can relate to her behavior

[@bennicholas8712]

Right?? I'm so curious about the original police interviews and baseline behavior before her roommate was murdered more so than an analysis after years of trauma in prison and on trial for murder.

[@BoHolbo]

I’m in the same boat as you, and I agree completely!

[@katharineshade9550]

Do you mean ASD? That’s what you’re describing.

[@BoHolbo]

@@katharineshade9550 ASD is an umbrella term. ADHD is not a form of autism, but many symptoms of ASD and ADHD do overlap. This can make it quite challenging for professionals to make the correct diagnosis.

[@katharineshade9550]

@@BoHolbo yes, I know but they are two separate diagnoses, so using the correct one helps keep things clear.

[@mariaescano7922]

I think if Greg were to interrogate me I would be so terrified that I would admit to the Kennedy assassination LOL! He scares me the most!!!

[@goodthinkingtv]

Can I ask. Wouldn't her story be designed and said in detail because she has had to reiterate countless times over the years and in great specifics?

[@smpotts173]

Also, in the Netflix doc, when she recalls talking about her eccentricities, but was looking forward to becoming an adult, she then addresses the camera while waiting for her mom in the prison office, admitting she was still a kid and wanted her mom. That kind of sounded like an explanation, not quite an apology for her actions.

[@smpotts173]

Hi GoodThinkingTV! That's what I think. I also started to become suspicious of details she seemed to focus on in all the videos I watched. One was how "confused" she had been. She REALLY emphasizes the word itself, and her facial expression is intense and eyes far away. She usually repeats it, also. I think this made it possible to change and perfect her story as time went on.

[@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg]

@@smpotts173 Yes and she says things like she wants to be seen as something more, etc, not I’m innocent, I’m innocent! She only says that when backed into a corner and asked directly.

[@smpotts173]

@@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg Hi Patricia! Exactly! You are really good at reading subtext!

[@KaraLey98]

Exactly how I feel, what you say.

[@ionamcbrid]

Hi, I’m Chase, I have many excellent professional accreditations but all anyone can now remember about me is my face on a mug surrounded by hearts.

[@chasehughesofficial]

🤣❤️

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

LOL

[@imnottheone3707]

WHAT ! REALLY.. I WANT ONE ❤❤❤😄😄😄

[@liquomerlin]

To comment on Scott’s comment about ‘everyone would phone the cops if they find their front door open’, I have to disagree. I have been a student (female) and lived in different countries in my 20ies. If you live in a house with several students in a place where everyone is relaxed and friendly and open, you don’t automatically assume that something bad has happened. I would have gone into the house with the door open as well. Common things are common. Common for you Scott is to deal with crime and deceit so of course you would assume a crime has happened. But it’s a different assumption when you are a trusting very young person. Also your comment about her lack of eye contact; I have heard she has Asperger’s syndrome. Would that change things?

[@Fluffy-777]

​@@celinefreeman1069 yeah, like why would you assume everyone would flush it, I would go tell the person to not be gross and flush their dudu.. I would only flush it if I needed the toilet

[@Fluffy-777]

Oh she does ? I thought she looked like she was on the spectrum, they struggle to hold eye contact and have all kinds of strange things while talking

[@PandoraMaximova]

I think Scott is giving advice here. As opposed to a blanket "no one does that" statement. 👍

[@andreazachary]

Love how their backgrounds reflect their personalities. Chase has the spotlight in the upper right corner as if he has his own private interrogation room; Mark's space is very structured and linear, almost OCD in how perfectly it's all aligned; Greg in room reminiscent of the Godfather; and Scott's room doesn't matter as long as he has his headphones.

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

Nailed it.

[@mjc6533]

Have to watch a webinar with Mark when he explains how to set your background. Ask them to widen their camera lens and your perception might change... its all a matter of perspective and staging. All good fun.

[@iAmiSaid]

Great analogy!

[@catrionamacfarlane4949]

👍😅😅😅😅

[@clarinetstar14]

I would probably use the word specific rather than OCD as an adjective. OCD isn't a synonym for neat and tidy.

[@tandiavonbonbon240]

She was so invested in the poo being the 3rd character in the story. Amanda, Raff and the phantom poo. I completely forgot it was a murder mystery. She got us hooked on poodunnit.

[@osamashoukry399]

😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌 The dangerous love triangle (Amanda, Raffayel and the Poo) 😂😂

[@SketchyCharactersAndCrime]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 best comment

[@alfgwahigain5544]

Drinking game: drink every time she mentions "feces in the toilet". Just kidding, I don't want anyone getting alcohol poisoning.

[@MuMu-fu7qe]

POODUNNIT = brilliant LOLOLOL

[@MuMu-fu7qe]

@@alfgwahigain5544 lmao

[@GaijinMom]

I would never just call the police if my door was open. Had never crossed my mind that I should do that.. sounds very dramatic 🤔

[@GaijinMom]

Rosa Milá I don’t think I’d look for an intruder per say, I’d assume the door wasn’t shut properly by one of us who live here. I guess I’d check if the TV is gone. Not saying I’m right, he just said it like it was the most natural thing to do and here I didn’t feel I would at all. However I have observed in America people call the police a bit more frequently than we do here and for things our police wouldn’t really show up 😂

[@GaijinMom]

Rosa Milá I’m a woman, haha. I guess it’s the biggest thing of value and it’s right there. I’m trying to remember situations when it has happened and I guess I find it statistically unlikely that there would be an intruder in my house. I live in an apartment too so people can’t just walk into the building. But yeah maybe I need to change my behavior a bit.

[@maisybee2091]

Same here

[@maisybee2091]

I would think they're drunk or something maybe, especially seeing what I'd imagine to be period blood on the toilet, but then if I noticed the eerie silence I'd get a little worried and would make sure everything was fine. Or if I thought there could be an intruder and I live with friends, I'd go in to make sure my friend is okay because I'd trust I'd be able to run out the door if I needed

[@vettegirlful]

I don't know if I can deal with Mark being on the left!

[@clarissimaadayinthelifeofa1782]

Yes. Wrong, so very wrong. Lol.

[@joanlonganeckerbaechler4591]

Can you guys please analyze Casey Anthony?

[@MissaPality]

Most of us lay people believe she killed Caylee and watching anything with her speaking turns my stomach and I get so angry. She is the only person that has ever elicited this much negative energy. How a jury found her not guilty is beyond me.

[@Eplovesjesus]

I love when you guys tell us about studies done in regards to emotions, memories, trauma, body language etc. Thank you!

[@yvonnemclaughlin4324]

Amanda is not happy about a new movie titled “STILLWATER” coming out about her story. Oh well, I’m sure Meredith was not happy to be murdered.

[@sgirl1234]

She is a public figure and therefore can be fictionalized in this movie, no matter how much she thinks she owns any and all fair comment ad infinitum. Narcissist. Whiner. She maintains a high public profile for someone who says she doesn't want to be criticized - in public.

[@TheKing0fSpades]

Love the show, I just wanted to point out one big flaw in some of the analytics of Knox's language: this was in Italy where she was speaking Italian. As a person who speaks both Italian and English, I understand why she phrased certain things a specific way because that is how the statements translate and I feel she is getting her languages mixed up (a common thing when you are multi-lingual).

[@lukemcevoy2385]

Yes, that's partially true. I lived in Spain for many years and sometimes my phrasing in English is a little "spanishified". This was after years though...not months.

[@MO.Robribik]

Totally agree. I'm in Italy. Also understand how this would work AND how awful the Italian police/investigators/justice system is.

[@TheKing0fSpades]

@@MO.Robribik While I might agree with how the case was handled poorly (and I do agree), I understand why the channel wanted to keep it to her behavior. She is awkward to say the least

[@factsmatter8667]

About Amanda Knox: "Nothing suggests honesty."

[@Taylor-xq2sj]

Please do Scott Peterson and Adnan Syed. They are two of the most controversial for true crime lovers and we’d love to see your take on them!

[@lowend337]

I glad I found you guys man. This stuff is great!

[@chasehughesofficial]

Low End Theory - Your theory may be low-end, but your comments, not at all.

[@mike_skinner]

The girls fell out over Amanda's lack of cleanliness apparently. It seems that Amanda didn't like being criticized.

[@sursorn5575]

She’s a psychopath

[@missfriscowin3606]

I came home and had a shower and got ready for work and only when I saw my mattress was askew did I wonder if anything had happened in my apt...left and went to work...only later did I find out my roommate had been busted for drugs and they had tossed the whole apt...just saying...young people don’t process info the same as adults as we all know. P.S. I moved out.

[@missfriscowin3606]

I used the word and too much too...blaming it on the video 😁

[@dougspidermanhappy]

That’s why car rental companies don’t rent to people under 25. Their brains aren’t fully developed. The neuroscience bears out the statistics that car rental companies considered.

[@thatsnomoon3654]

Remember liars often embellish or tell non important details to make the story sound more believable.

[@KellyanneKashaS]

That can be true but also when you feel accused or think you won't be believed it can make you do the same. I suffer from severe anxiety & social anxiety and when telling the truth even when not being asked just a story etc my head gets in the way & I start feeling like I'm acting guilty or lying when I 100% am not So I probably over compensate then look even more guilty.

[@MissaPality]

@@KellyanneKashaS exactly. I am, fortunately a terrible liar, but was married to a narcissist for 25 years who was a very skilled liar. I would find that when he would blame me for things that I never did, I would defend myself by adding non important information to my defense that could be misconstrued as embellishing or even storytelling in my responses. When you have to constantly defend yourself you will tend to add non-important information, which ends up making you appear to be lying.

[@jodiplocher860]

I have always got the feeling that she was involved somehow. The way she throws Raphael’s name around makes me think the two competed over him. She has this look of contempt, almost like she was the winner when she talks about him. When you said guilty knowledge, this completed my suspicions.

[@Sari-dg2fh]

I agree with Mark. This story is constructed to address accusations and doubts about what she did that day. She is definitely story telling. It's not casual conversation. But could it ever be when you're talking about a murder you've been accused of.

[@lesleyhall4186]

Wallace & Gromit referenced in a murder case episode. Fabulous. This channel has EVERYTHING!

[@chasehughesofficial]

It was such a brilliant reference.

[@betti76]

I suggest to who edited the video, to put frames of the parts they are talking about meanwhile they are talking because is easier for who are watching to understand what they are talking about. Like the smile of “fear” saying the word “murdered” or the use of the pronouns... I have to pause and go back to the interview to understand it. Interesting analysis anyway, I will watch other videos for sure!

[@bluemeister7]

Sorry, but for me and my house, whenever I find poop in a toilet, I ALWAYS think there's been a crime. :D

[@josy.p]

If I saw blood drops in the bathroom I wouldn't think something bad happened. I would think someone got a nose bleed and didn't cleaned well.

[@Fiam53]

What about a footprint 👣 of blood on the bathroom floor because that was there whic is odd why she didn't mention it in that video i wonder why

[@7beers]

I'm used to seeing Chase on the right and Mark on the left. I don't know if I can handle this! Aggghhh!

[@eileenbradley9838]

Haha I know what you mean, it's actually really bugging me.

[@gnb2011]

Just noticed, the only time Scott sips from his Chase cup is when Chase is speaking 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

(Scott here) You’re very observant. 🙂

[@traveljunkie1324]

I noticed that too! 🤣

[@gnb2011]

@@TheBehaviorPanel Thanks Scott 😊 I love all of the videos y'all do! The way y'all teach in a comparative and common sense way is very effective. It really makes things apparent that we see daily and typically disregard. It's very eye opening. So thanks guys!

[@cindycallahan3909]

Brigid Kessler, I noticed that too 🤣. And he sips it so casually. They are so funny.

[@kaymarham5486]

Exhausted after a long week of house moving and work deadlines, I was in line for just four hours of much-needed sleep when I saw this new video. Two hours 21 minutes it is then. Scott, that was a simply brilliant and captivating opener. X

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

Thank you so much, Kay. 🙂

[@TellYourDogISaidAwn]

I LOVE when they include knowledge about studies and talk longer to really gives us every piece of knowledge. I'm addicted to TBP ! 🥰🥳😅

[@gordangraham]

There are a lot of comments so don’t know if you will read this or not. I love you guys. Love the banter back and forth. You guys would be great friends. If I were around you guys we would be good friends. Love you show.

[@Ira_Rosenberg]

Don't apologize for discussing research studies. They are important because they inform us on how you reach your conclusions. Never apologize for being evidence based. Cheers.

[@jamiebeaumont4489]

I agree, in fact I’d like to hear more.

[@chasehughesofficial]

Thanks, Ira and Jamie. Will do.

[@jamiebeaumont4489]

Chase Hughes or perhaps point us that are interested, in the direction of some research studies worth reading :)

[@SRH874]

I have binge watched these videos since discovering you guys. This analysis is mind blowing. I haven't seen the videos in chronological order and I have to say my brain is struggling with having Mark and Chase switch positions on the screen!

[@daynadrn111]

I don't know how I missed this one but thanks for the laughs! You guys always make my day. Also, no need to ever apologize for going long on your turn because I guarantee that every bit of what you are saying is interesting.

[@lorifreed7900]

This is about the third time I've watched Knox speak. There is something very wooden about her facial expressions. I don't have the vocabulary to describe it, I just know she doesn't 'match.' It's like her eyes are expressionless or the middle of her face never engages. It's disconcerting.

[@frarfarf]

Doesn't make her a killer though

[@anne-elizabethmcgeary1023]

@@frarfarf Agree, what would be her motive for murder?

[@ReadingIsLife1908]

She has what I call, dead eyes. There is no emotion

[@maisybee2091]

I think she's traumatized and her eyes are empty with fear. From what she did or was apart of or what she's been through, or having to make a person believe her story

[@adeleelisabeth_]

@@anne-elizabethmcgeary1023 motive: She was jealous on Meredith and maybe argued w her bcs Meredith was complainning that Amanda is dirty.

[@themodernhippy]

I love how mark grinned when everyone complimented him 🤣 so pure.

[@lindsay5305]

I see rage toward Meredith in Amandas eyes and hear contempt in her tone when she speaks about Meredith.

[@philip_hofmaenner47]

I don't know what the truth is but the fact that a majority of people in the UK and Italy believe she's guilty and a majority of people in the USA think she's innocent just tells me that most people are sheep and believe whatever they're told...

[@BlackPrimeMinister]

Nonsense. There is no pre-disposition to find young, reasonably attractive (at the time), white women guilty of murder amongst the general public. We found her character, constant lying, dancing at the murder scene(!), indifference to Meredith and attempt to frame an innocent man all the clues we needed.

[@philip_hofmaenner47]

@@BlackPrimeMinister I'm referring to how well opinions are aligned to country borders... Don't you think that speaks to group thinking and sheep mentality? And I agree btw that her behaviour was pretty weird and she looks kind of guilty. But there's also lots of stuff that makes me think there's a possibility Guede could have done it. Maybe all 3 did it or maybe it was just Rafaele and Knox and Guede was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, who knows. But if I was in a jury I wouldn't be able to give a guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt for any of them....

[@BlackPrimeMinister]

​@@philip_hofmaenner47 We're not patriotic like that. We don't care about sketchy Brits 💩abroad. Did Brits feel that way, once? Maybe. Today? Not at all. We love Merry but don't want innocent people jailed. Muricans feel they are exceptional and special everywhere they go - there's even a name for this phenom: "American Exceptionalism". I mean: she was at the scene and she has been lying her ass off for years.

[@Helenwheels370]

@@BlackPrimeMinister Oh, wow. You clearly have been reading too many tabloids and watching ignorant videos. What "constant lying" and "dancing at the murder scene"? She made no 'attempt to frame an innocent man' as even the EHCR ruled in 2019 that she RETRACTED her statements about her boss within hours in writing more than once but, even having done so, she was charged with slander 6 months later.

[@shermac246]

@@philip_hofmaenner47 some people in the US actually did their own research like me, and learned this case was bundled from the start. Italian police could have been characters in Dumb and Dumber, they manufactured evidence against Ms. Knox by using her DNA that was present before the murder, then they tortured her into admitting to things she could not have done but she was terrorized out of her mind plus didn’t know what they were saying and she had no clue about her constitutional rights.

[@27clearblue]

As I am listening I am going to agree with Mark. The info she is giving is because of what has been brought up before so she is putting the reasons in her story.

[@moyaserena1717]

I was glued to the screen at 14:43 , so interesting. Chase is an amazing teacher and speaker, I don't think my university lecturers combined are as good as him

[@davisupnorth4110]

About the toilet issue in a court statement this was said "As for Knox shock at the poop, Sophie Purton testified to the court: One thing in particular that I remember very well regards Amanda’s habits in the bathroom. Meredith said that Amanda often did not flush the toilet. [This] annoyed her and she wanted to do something about it but did not know what to do without creating problems, not wanting to create embarrassing situations." and apparently Amanda and Meredith argued about this regularly...

[@debl9957]

Yes, Amanda seemed to have something to prove by her action of not flushing when doing so would be anyone else's reaction of seeing feces in a toilet (think about going into a bathroom stall in a public restroom with 'stuff' in the bowl; hit the flusher).

[@frarfarf]

That's so weird

[@rpinbc2748]

This was brilliant, as you all are to watch........I've learned so much. What those giving negative comments here need to realize is these four men are highly experienced/skilled in what they do! This is obvious from listening to them for 5 seconds. They have covered cases where I had very different gut feelings (i.e. Madeleine McCann's parents), where I did not think they were being truthful but this panel did and I respect that I am not the expert and they are!

[@ItsMe-el4cj]

I’d love to be able to watch you guys interrogating someone. Since that’s probably not possible, how about walking us through footage of someone being interrogated and giving us your input as to what the interrogator is doing wrong or right? One of the weirdest interrogations I’ve ever watched was that of Stephen McDaniel. Could the detectives have done anything differently?

[@sofialavish1072]

How about every time she mentions Murder word she laughs and has a big smile on her face?

[@legacyjai9003]

That could be a nervous laugh

[@MugenTJ]

I laugh in a lot of awkward situation, just because my mood is good, even when ppl might be suffering. While others can’t even tell when a joke is told. These guys tend to over analyze every detail. (After seeing a dozen of there vids)

[@katrinat.3032]

Right I thought BP would hone in on that but they didn’t

[@maisybee2091]

I think it could be a nervous thing

[@dreamamorgan6881]

You guys are hilarious! You obviously like each other a lot! Keep us smiling!

[@JoanneMomsen]

Chase's humor using the word 'indeed' close to the end of the video (at ±1:27)

[@diegoshuman3005]

An innocent person would have ran out of there in a panic. Not take a shower or figure out who is at home or look in the toilet and run out to get a mop.

[@diegoshuman3005]

@Inv Smith Podcast she mentioned the mop. No one asked her about it.

[@Cordelia-again]

I think what the psychologists are seeing as a guilty person making up details to cover up what their involvement is actually quite a cold unemotional person trying to think how a 'normal' person might.

[@cnsmooth]

It also happened years ago so to treat this retelling of the night as an accurate story that is being told with no hindsight at all is a mistake

[@mandyp1764]

I don’t think a middle-aged man can really relate to a teen girl living with other girls. I was and Amanda’s story (disgust with gross bathroom/entering a house where a door has been left open/is totally unaware of obvious signs of danger) fits with a 18-21 year-old college student living with a bunch of other girls. That’s where the expression “young and stupid” originated, no doubt, and should be considered contextually when evaluating behavior.

[@lizabelaart]

Sorry but that's not true. If you would know the case, then you would know, that Amanda was the gross roommate all along she was dirty and filthy and never cleaned up. That was just one point why she and Meredith didn't get along and Meredith had always complaining about Amanda.The other girls were always very neat and clean, so if she's talking about don't minding feces and blood all around the place and don't "minding" it at first it's probably a nother lie. Because either she left it for not minding or something is very off!

[@kaisergrendel]

@@lizabelaart Listen to 45:10; Amanda herself doesn't frame her reaction to the unflushed toilet it as disgust, but creepy and uncharacteristic. She also drops several comparisons of herself to the other girls that hint of her awareness that she was the untidy one of the bunch.

[@lizabelaart]

@@kaisergrendel Yes I know and that's why she's contradicting herself. If you study the case you will find the statements of the other girls in that house and you will learn that Amanda just didn't care about tidying and so it wouldn't stand out to her as a thing of priority. She even showered with the blood on the floor and the faces in the toilet. So when she says she immediately knew something is off that's just a lie she puts in there because she know that this doesn't fits her own behavior. Imo

[@samiday6486]

@@lizabelaart maybe I'm misinterpreting your comments here but you almost seem to be saying that because Amanda was the untidy roommate she must be guilty?

[@kaisergrendel]

@@angelabaird7135 Agree. They seem to have finely tuned perceptions and analytic techniques that instead of leading them to the correct answer more often, just makes them more correct or more wrong at a roughly 50/50 ratio. I think what's lacking in these shows is the fact that they're not doing the interview themselves and they don't have access to all the facts the actual interrogator might have.

[@jamesmitchell7185]

"So Chase, whaddaya got?" Gets me every time 😂

[@TheCazz10]

Why is it so funny? Is it from the Brady Bunch? I’m not American.

[@jamiebeaumont4489]

Carolyn C if you watch the other videos , it’s become a running catchphrase :)

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

@@TheCazz10 (scott here) No, it's just something I say. I didn't even realize I was doing it until people started pointing it out.

[@KaraLey98]

They all do that to pass the topic to the next guy.

[@Daniela-Christianson]

Did I just see Scott drink out of a coffee mug with Chase's face and hearts on it? Hilarious!

[@elisanathalieheine7671]

I have a question: You mention her saying "her (Meredith's) phone didn't answer" is a strange way to put it as if she already knew that person couldn't have answered her call. But right after she talks about Laura and says the very same thing: "her phone didn't answer". So would this not disqualify or at least weaken the argument as it doesn't indicate anything specifically directed anymore but rather a generally clumsy way of expression?

[@lunaava8668]

Remember she did the whole thing in Italian, it’s bound to influence the way she thinks about it

[@jeffiroth2794]

I noticed this too. I believe it's just how she speaks.

[@elisanathalieheine7671]

Luna Ava Hadn’t thought of this but it’s a good point. Does any Italian speaker know if this is syntactically a usual way to put it? Or would it be awkward in Italian too?

[@eneDK5594]

I'm italian. "Her phone didn't answer" does not exists in italian

[@elisanathalieheine7671]

@@eneDK5594 Thx for the info!

[@emiliadavis8247]

This is a tragic story, but I couldn't stop laughing at Mark, when he said, " This seems to be a case about being clean, and not being clean, who is clean and who is not clean" !!! 😁 The way he said it, and his wonderful accent!! 😄❤️

[@aliciai3295]

Once again The Behavior Panel lights up all the parts of my brain.

[@FathomtheOcean]

After watching so many of your videos I'd forgotten how wrong the world feels when Mark and Chase are flip flopped lol.

[@wrAIth-AI]

That's the 1st thing I thought.😂

[@kristis4147]

I like how these guys back up their opinions with studies.

[@karenlynne8155]

I don't really know how this case goes beyond she was found innocent of a murder but I always have felt, by merely watching her in interview clips that she was 1. guilty, 2. a good story teller, 3. a bit of a narcissist, & 4. maybe was a spoiled child/ got away with a lot as a child. You know when you get a feeling about someone?

[@arsenal10141014]

She was found guilty by a jury. And got off under multiple appeals due to political / PR / lobbying… Very different to ‘found innocent’. Guilty as OJ.

[@nancylpr]

She's mighty different, her favorite descriptive is "strange" and she definitely did not like Meridith. I've walked into a home where a break in took place. You definitely don't stick around.

[@andywilliams8540]

This was big news in the UK at the time, the victim was an English girl. There’s always been a feeling she was a bad apple over here.

[@katrinetroelsen]

You know what you are missing in that line up? 5. no actual proof against her, just your speculations.

[@claresutton2819]

There is a reason that the general public feels suspicious of some people. Think of Lindy Chamberlain, the Mc Canns, Joanne Lees, O.J. Simpson, as a few examples. We may not be able to articulate it, but something is highly weird and mismatched between their words and non-verbal messaging. Thank you to you guys for breaking it down for us.

[@katharineshade9550]

Yes, and the problem is when people mistake that mismatch as guilt, when much of the time it’s not. These professionals don’t draw any conclusions from it, rather, it is an indication that they should dig further.

[@katharineshade9550]

I’d live them to cover Lindy Chamberlain. A great (and awful) example of where picking up something odd does not mean guilt.

[@BookishDark]

Also…not everyone understands things for what they are immediately. My uncle was flying his small plane on Father’s Day morning years ago and suddenly vanished off radar. My parents came to my room in a panic, “we’re driving down to their house right now.” They lived two states away and for the life of me I couldn’t understand why they were in such a fuss. Surely he was fine…it made no sense to me. I just didn’t see it as alarming. At all. My parents were panicking. And rightly so - his plane had crashed and he was missing for a few weeks. His remains were found in the crashed plane. I just couldn’t imagine that the outcome would be bad. I was maybe…22 at the time? How old was Amanda at the time this happened? Her mind might not have been experienced or mature enough to jump to that conclusion.

[@YoutubeTherapists]

Mark’s hair is goals, right after the video I went to Amazon to buy hair products. Also, if this panel dedicated their time to help women read their husbands you all would be richer than Bezos.

[@Oceangirl_505]

Truth, on both counts!

[@ediebiggs4548]

I never heard her say how she knew the roommate's door was locked. She didn't say it was closed, she said it was locked. If I was describing a scene, I would have said the door to her room was shut. She knew the door was locked before she ever knocked on it. I know that it's a small thing, but she over-describes everything else, but no mention of the door actually being shut. That's not much on it's own, but I think it's interesting that she left it out.

[@Jenny_Lee_]

Oh wow. Great catch. I missed this. And that's definitely not a little thing. She knew before she even knocked it would be locked.

[@BP0471]

What's more is that Meredith's blood stains were found on the door-handle as well. This blood would have been transferred by the person who had Meredith's blood on their hands, and DNA testing would have shown traces of DNA from that person as well. I'm not sure if Amanda's DNA was picked up on the handle but it would be pretty damning evidence, except her version of how she and her boyfriend tried to open the door, presumably by turning the handle, would provides an explanation for their DNA traces being on the handle and the blood already on it. So it seems this has been a very calculated version of events.

[@user-bh3ew6ii4g]

Great catch, indeed. She said that she opened another girl's door, so why did she not knock first on that one? Yet Meredith's door was also closed and without trying it she knew it was locked.

[@figgiepooh81]

It's a big thing even though it may seem small. The devil is in the details.

[@rich0373]

Anyone else feel really happy or giddy when watching the four horsemen go to work 😄

[@StorytimeWithStelita]

Her choice of words are all over the place. She said "Her phone didn't answer." It seem to be weird to me

[@angelbogart539]

I loooove what y'all do... the ONLY thing missing is you never bring in personality disorders. Autism is a HUGE personality that causes people to act/respond in strange ways even when not guilty. It's far more common in society than we expected & needs a professional opinion to comment on. I love these videos but I'm continually nervous because I'm a strange person & react differently than "normal" people PARTICULARLY when I'm nervous or I know it's important. I look guilty!!

[@thruaGlassOnion]

Yes, I agree! I've been watching her and wondering if she is on the autism spectrum.

[@bodaciousmoondadpizzawolf2270]

Here’s something to consider: if a person telling a story is used to people not believing them throughout their life, they could be more prone to put on body language that would indicate that they are being deceptive or not telling the whole truth, because in the back of their mind they are thinking “oh, they don’t believe anything I’m saying”. What are your thoughts with that type of situation? I only ask, because I know people like this, and I would also like your opinion.

[@Poetess2323]

I think you're spot on.

[@ElizzzaB]

Yes. Many would not understand this. First time I've seen it mentioned. Today many don't believe others. Projection?

[@whitsfiryellnogobyye]

I'm curious about that too. What about a person who has experienced psychological abuse/gaslighting/family scapegoating since youth? They tend to have a mindset of "I've done something wrong/No one will believe me".

[@christal4117]

I am not that familiar with details from this case, but only by the interview, these are some remarks I see differently: Regarding feces, yes - she probably had a very good idea who did it, probably had issues about hygiene with that person before, that is why she later highlights that the other girl was really clean and wouldn’t do that. That is a way of saying "I'm not saying she did it, I'm saying no one else but her did". Because of that there is no reason she would think someone else was here. Now I get men might have an idea that all girls are tidy but that is not always the case, especially when it comes to all-girls roommates. And then the flushing - to me its perfectly understandable she didn’t flush it, she was angry and would leave it intentionally either because she didn’t want to clean after someone else, or to confront person who did it. As a woman, this makes total sense to me.

[@maireadnic8280]

Same! Something tells me that perhaps they haven’t lived in a situation of many rotating roommates for a long time. They did pick up on the fact that there may have been tension around cleaning... AB-SO-LUTE-LY there was a set to about cleaning at some point! 😆 It would be impossible for there not to be. Also the comment by Scott that on coming home and finding the door unlocked that a young woman would call the police and not go in... um, no more like the reaction would be “FFS, which moron didn’t lock the door properly?”

[@christal4117]

@@maireadnic8280 that is true, they do seem to miss that dynamics and see girl-roommates interactions otherwise. I lived with girl roommates and if I found house unlocked I would be annoyed but it wouldn't cross my mind to call the police out of the blue and bother them, it would make no sense to me unless I live all alone. Also, there is always that one roommate that is.. not bothered by mess, and I had one too. If I found toilette in that condition, I wouldn't clean after her, I would be grossed out. I had issues with dishes and after 2 times I cleaned after her, I left everything messed up in the kitchen and didn't want to clean for days until she finally did. I think Amanda didn't want to say that because she was thinking it would make her look more guilty that she had confrontations and tensions with roommates.

[@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg]

@@christal4117 I don’t think it’s credible at all that the locked door, which she would have pushed at after seeing the blood, the open door etc wouldn’t have made her raise the alarm. To have a shower she would have seen the bloody footprint on the bath mat. In such a strange situation, who would take a shower?