Unpacking The Penrith Panthers' Historic 4th Straight Premiership With Gorden Tallis & Brandon Smith

[@jimmartin9704]

I'm not a Panthers fan, but they deserve all the accolades for what they have just done. To win 1 or 2 is hard enough in any era but to win 4 in this salary cap era, bloody unbelievable, so well done, Penrith.

[@LeonSigai]

Liam Martin absolute menace on the field. What a unit 🔥🔥

[@JaTee-pl8pp]

Gordin literally dying inside when people talk about how great Penrith is lmao

[@JOEY69-69]

😂

[@jobaiti136]

For us Panthers fans in PNG, we needed this win more than the storms to square the ledger. What a sweet revenge. Let Storms feel the pain we felt in 2020. After all, Storms played very well.

[@yaccfonoti]

We've beaten storm last 4 seasons. We already got our revenge. Last night was history making

[@bushybill7189]

This is Gordon Tallis as I've never seen him in the media. None of the combative, anti Penrith, anti anything NSW that we see on 360 which I often turn off from watching because of him. Lets see more of it Gordon. So many great performances from Penrith. There were no bad players for them. As a GF debutant Alamoti was awesome. Martin, Yeo, Cleary, Turuva, To'o....... all awesome. I've followed Penrith since the early 80's and have stayed strong through many hard times. What a time to be a Panthers fan!!!!!!

[@ChiefWiggum-sf7uq]

It’s suppose to be sensualist journalism that’s what FOX go for and part of the script

[@bushybill7189]

@@ChiefWiggum-sf7uq it's not a great plan though if it makes people tune out rather than tune in

[@yaccfonoti]

@@bushybill7189 couldn't believe the praise he was giving last night on 360. It only took 4 premierships to win his admiration lol

[@pnge-shoppers]

Exactly 💯 what a time to be a Panthers fan

[@matrix35]

I'am with Cheese, Isaah Yeo was unstoppable and should of won the clive churchill!

[@youchwb6005]

They could have easily given it to Cleary when you look at his game stats which in an arm wrestle, he was the difference IMO. And as he was playing injured, only highlights the point how well could he have played if he had been 100% fit and by how much further the Panthers would have won by.

[@RH-po9qo]

The Bye Round Team, Best poddy of the season! I’m with the dribblers on this one-it’s wild to hear Gordy giving the Panthers some love. Gotta commend Cheese for speaking the truth, too. I really enjoyed your take leading up to the grand final. You mentioned several times that the Panthers were the better team in their second loss to the Storm, and I think that’s spot on. I wonder if part of the reason the Panthers outclass most teams is because every year, during the regular season, every team treats them as their grand final. It’s similar to how it was with the Patriots over here in the States. It forces the Panthers to play better, be fitter, and constantly believe they can win. Next year will be interesting with Ivan retooling things. We can bet they'll still be a top defensive side. Even if they just make it to the finals next year, that would be a statement about Ivan’s brilliant coaching. Defense wins championships. Shout out from Texas!

[@LordBangaGaming]

Love this talk, way better than most others out there. Players talking instead of glorified journalists ❤

[@SSTID1908]

Great episode guys. Thanks

[@SlaintheMhath]

Thanks Jimmy, great year on the poddy. Some nice analysis from Gordie and poor old Cheese is still a storm at heart, GL with the recovery Cheese. Go the Mighty Panthers!!!!!

[@elphmeister]

Penrith play percentage football. They don't often put on huge points against teams but their defence is like 2 converted tries. It's not champagne football but it works because of their disciplined approach.

[@mrts7025]

Penrith is the greatest team

[@RichardEllin]

Thank you for the show and the show offs. Really enjoyed them since i found you a couple of months ago ..

[@thebyeround]

@@RichardEllin cheers Richard plenty to come in off season, you’ll love the Roundtable show coming out Thursday !

[@SkeletorsSon]

Was funny watching the Storm cheats waiting for the ref bias out of habit to give them piggy backs out of their own end 😂 Threw their arms up crying every tackle 😂

[@brookemonaghan1248]

Coming from a team that doesn't get penalised for mid air tackle and rubbing hands in storms players face all night teams can't beat storm without playing dirty great what penrith have done wit the 4 peat but penrith is the grubbiset team ATM just cos u win doesn't mean u can be pricks also storm cheated 17 years ago get over it storm to win 2025 and 2026 u watch

[@SamuelSmith-li8zs]

Im a QLD die hard - I think liam martin is a grub come origin time, - but you can not deny how much grit he has and how great he is. He embodies wearing your heart on your sleave.

[@TheIrishAustralianCarnt]

Let's go Panther fans!

[@Dellasus2011]

In the HD video of the try, the "white of the ball" is in fact, "the white of the arm" holding the ball. Melbourne Storm officials were shown the the video and they conclusively saw a no try.

[@ashcameron7677]

That angle the bunker had shows it was actually the arm under the ball.

[@Mahatheyew]

Correct. I thought it was the ball from pictures last night but after seeing the other angle this morning and then going back to the original picture, it’s obvious his arm looked like the ball. Bunker got it right thankfully.

[@Mahatheyew]

Cheese seems more devastated for the Storm loss than he was Roosters losing the prelim 😂

[@thetentmedia665]

It's pretty perthetic for anyone to say it wasn't his arm under the ball 😂

[@ashcameron7677]

@@MahatheyewI feel like Cheese has lost his happiness at the Roosters. From a far, Bellamy is way better at letting his players be themselves.

[@Dellasus2011]

When they are talking about the "white part of the ball" making contact with the ground, the Hi-Res video shows clearly its Howarth's arm. Proving conclusively it was NO try...

[@Leonytis]

The media disrespected the Panthers, by calling the Storm the best Spine lol... Edwards, Kenny, Luai and Cleary been the best for the past 3 years lol and even then, everyone speaking of the spine and forgetting Yeo, is the main man!!

[@joergzorn]

For me its not the elites that won the Panthers this game. Sorenson, Garner, Smith, Tago & Henry all played with such intensity that the Storm's go-forward was suffocated & it didnt let their spine play how they would've liked too

[@darrellwaymouth4354]

If you look at the social media picture you can see the tip of the ball, therefore it can't have been the ball touching the ground because the ball was facing the other way

[@youchwb6005]

The reaction of the Panthers players who could see the reverse angle of the shot was obvious the Storm player did not score. You dont get that illuminated when you are fair dinkum knowing you kept the ball up, because the replay would put you in a dumb light if you're wrong. That is why the Panthers celebrated the saved try.

[@movieklump]

What a great show Graham and Co have put on this season. Second to none in my opinion.

[@Chama266]

100% agree

[@thebyeround]

@@movieklump cheers legend! Roundtable first ep Thursday 👀

[@davidcarroll6222]

Was disappointed with storms kicking game and 5th tackle options was ordinary ..think panthers will do a Michelle pfeiffer

[@matrix35]

Agreed. Melbourne just had no answers and in that last 20 min their kicks were that of a team that had lost their minds!

[@youchwb6005]

@@matrix35 Sometimes people are beat before they get to the ground.

[@rd.creative4456]

Big fan of the podcast, thanks for the awesome content to help me through those work-from-home days! I have a question to run 'bye' you: Do you think it's a good idea for the NRL to introduce a patch of some sort on the NRL jerseys to commemorate being the current premiers? Being a massive football fan as well, jerseys will display a cup or flag on their jerseys to signify being the previous season champs, and I think this is a concept which the NRL could adapt as well and fans would absolutely love having that on the jersey of the team they support? How good would it be for fans to buy the jersey which clearly shows their team are current champs?! Being a chooks supporter, this definitely isn't just in light of everything Penrith has achieved - I think the fans would eat that up and it also acts to remind everyone of who the current champs are. Keen to hear your thoughts on this, keep up the good work and great content. Cheers!

[@vanquish2220]

To be fair that shoreline doesn’t show how dominant Penrith were props to storm for defending them for the whole 80 and not making it easy for the panthers

[@vanquish2220]

Scoreline*

[@kevinknight1924]

It’s like Tyson said. Everyone has a plan till they are punched in the face. Penriths defence is the punch in the face.

[@noelwebb6843]

Great effort by both sides the game was played at top speed for the entire game. The Panthers were hungrier, losing wasn't an option.

[@bernyoz]

Scariest thing? Panther had an average year in real terms and won a gf.

[@MrEverisforever]

Because we had heaps of injuries

[@Sizezor]

Why are you talking about the no try? It was clear as day last night before this podcast would have been recorded. It was clear as day, in 4K it's no try. His arm is under it. It's obvious, the Bunker got it 100% right. Would you have preferred Panthers to lose the game on a No try call because you thought it was good live? Should have nipped it in the bud and said we thought it was a try but when the NRL released the footage it was a clear no try. End of discussion.

[@garry19681]

Atleast Thurston at the end of the game agreed it was a no try. Gallen asked cam smith if he saw the ball touch the ground a couple of times, surprisingly he didn’t say yes.

[@TheIrishAustralianCarnt]

Once Pap shank the kick off, i knew we shall gain the trophy. Too be sure, too be sure ladski's. Mounty County baby!,

[@Beauskibeau]

Didn't cheese say storm was going to win big against the riff lol

[@tytutu9625]

lol I counted everyone that said the Storm would beat the Panthers… - Andrew Johns - Cameron Smith - Johnathan Thurston - Billy Slater - Brandon Smith - Gordon Tallis - Cooper Cronk - Luke Keary - Cooper Johns - Denan Kemp - Justin Horo Sucked In! 😂😂😂 It was common sense that the Panthers would’ve won, they had revenge of the 2020 GF loss against the Storm on their minds AND the Panthers had 13 players on their team that have played GF’s before compared to the Storm’s 13 players who haven’t played a GF before lol COMMON SENSE ISN’T SO COMMON! It doesn’t matter that the Panthers lost to the Storm twice during the year, a GF is way different than a regular season game AND this Panthers team haven’t lost a finals game since the 2020 GF

[@bus5683]

@@tytutu9625there was also a lot of people who also tipped Penrith by the same token

[@vobzyy]

@@tytutu9625damn some people have no life… go outside it’s a beautiful day champ

[@nobrainer5117]

Bro they all sounded so sad on the telecast.

[@DMGC529]

People never learn, it’s laughable. All I heard all week was how good the storm were. Never in doubt.

[@dingodave04]

No try all day. Even in the one frame that looks like ball on grass, if you rewind the footage a few frames, you can see its his arm that ends up under the ball.

[@kevinknight1924]

As a 50 year panther fan what makes it so great for me is it’s 4 different sides that played these premierships.

[@sandorclegane3658]

Ninja please.

[@davidduffin1580]

Poor fella...You must remember the 77-7 loss against Manly at Brooky in the 70's 😅

[@eh5369]

​@davidduffin1580 I certainly do and also remember Penrith giving Manly some good hidings, too. Penrith deserve the status of one of the greatest teams ever to play, and their success was from the grass roots. Mmmm, unlike the silver tails raiding Western Suburb Magpie greats, lol

[@DanielMcCarthy-f1d]

@@davidduffin1580lol yeah and manly lucky to play Penrith without Cleary this year to break an 11 game losing streak to the panthers.

[@tamaolenuutoln2537]

@@davidduffin1580did Manly make to semis this year? Naw 😢

[@gregbishop610]

Liam shut down munster

[@arthurwatts1680]

Time and again, in attack or defense, there were pink jerseys everywhere. They admitted after the game that they were out on their feet (as were Melbourne) but that defense was just outstanding and Penrith forced the Storm to make errors they just wouldn't make against other teams.

[@junz685]

No matter how good you are but if you’re fitness not 💯 u can’t cope with tougher games, Penrith fitness good 👍

[@countrytodd4614]

7 errors between Coates, Warbrick, and Howarth is what killed us

[@darrenflannery8139]

No penrith played better than you

[@BKK290]

I think fatigue played a huge part in why Melbourne struggled.

[@matrix35]

The bunker should show the tv audience every angle they are looking at in order to try to maintain a bit of entegity!

[@SlaintheMhath]

It would take 10 minutes to show every angle ....

[@leaferikson8218]

Bunker doesn't choose what's televised.

[@JRPete]

Victoria has to start its own 2nd grade to recruit Victorian players. In that way, their pathways can match Penrith's, and maybe they might find a victorian country kid like Liam Martin and Dylan Edwards.

[@NotSoYoungNate]

Couldn't agree more - would help League grow here also which a lot of Vic fans would love

[@JRPete]

@@NotSoYoungNate a city and country game on prime time tv featuring Victorian players, would be good during the origin period.

[@petaiaseiuli5571]

🔥🔥🔥

[@coala1980]

Newer fan of the game just watching Rugby as in general for last 25 year's and League since 1999 my question is simple if opposition players stay in defensive line is that not obstruction.... every second attacking set in the 10-20 meters by the Panthers during the last two seasons/at least the games I watched/ they do this Martin and center of his side are in defense line ,same for both props when the attack is in the center. The other two teams who are doing this on regular bases are the Cowboys and the Roosters . Not to mention that both teams during this finals deserved players send to the bin for slowing down the game in the ruck and obviously striping the ball when tackle the opposition players or at least trying.

[@garry19681]

A lot of teams do it now. As long as you aren’t impeding the defence it is ok. My biggest beef is does anyone notice how many line ball/ forward passes harry grant throws.

[@Petdeals.online]

What really annoys me is that the refs and bunker should of been commended for this decision as they clearly gotta itt right. The is absolutely no evidence where you see that ball touch the grass. People are assuming that part of the ball that can't be seen was touching the grass even myself thought that. But the fact is you cannot see that I any video anywhere. All you can see is an arm clearly under the ball.... Please reply with a screenshot of where the ball touches the actual grass ???? No one can because such a image does NOT exist.

[@bryanstevenson9366]

Again- the no try. You guys just supported the ruling while not??!! Listen to what the number said. They did have the tech to get closer and it showed that what you thought was the ball on ground was an arm under as well as hands- because they DID have the camera and angle to show this. Sigh.

[@bernyoz]

Boys it wasn’t the white line it was an arm that’s exactly what the nrl has shown after you guys have overlooked this

[@handlesrt583]

Storm fan here, Storm did not deserve to win. It was said all week they would have to be at there best and alot of them weren't. NAS was also a big miss not that I believe him playing would of changed the result. To beat penrith on the big stage you have to be at your best. Melbourne for me 7/10 very poor on attack

[@bernyoz]

Amazing insight on man Utd swapping 2 players out every year it has pruned the panthers each year

[@yaccfonoti]

Seems like these guys still dont understand that penrith are superior to melbourne. Still talking about "shoulda coulda woulda" mate penrith have doninated melbourne for 4 years straight. Last year we beat them 38-4 in the finals. It wasnt a coincedence that melbournes spine was so quiet in the grand final. Penrith starved them off posession, filed position and made them work. Its the same thing they've done for 4 years. Penrith were never the underdogs i knew this was coming. You might beat penrith in a regular seaaon game, but in the finals they are a different beast. You have to be near perfect and willing to work as hard as they do on the day. Ps. Melbourne does not have a superior spine 7 - Nathan Cleary 6 - Jerome Luai 1 - Dylan Edwards 9 - Mitch Kenny I would add Isaiah Yeo to that list too Check the resume, they are the most elite spine in the comp and are the current in form players.

[@Warnugget1]

Not sure why everyone saying Storm had the best spine. Cleary is the best halfback, Luai is equal to Munster, Yeo is the bst lock, Dylan better than Pap, Grant is the best hooker but Kenny is a tackling machine which takes a load off others. Storm have a great spine and keeping everyone puts them in pole position 2025, just not the best in 2024.

[@bryanstevenson9366]

Crap re Nelson. Are speed this was played Nelson would have been gassed early and Penrith would have found him out. Brandon gets this. Nelson is full of errors especially when tired.

[@harichetty5381]

Without the 2 Clearys, Penrith would struggle. Nathan made the difference. He is an immortal.

[@jeremyjazwinski6349]

I hope there is a hindy version also .

[@steves524]

Nelson may have made a difference for Melbourne but he may also backfired with 10m in the bin..

[@davidduffin1580]

He would've been sent off in the first minute. Saved Bellamy the trouble.

[@vanquish2220]

Panthers always trust there inside man when the opposition does their set plays for the wingers no one else in the comp does that and I don’t understand why

[@porto434]

Storm will be stronger much stronger next year theyll win it

[@williambaglme819]

I think Melbourne did not play how they played all season to get the minor premiership. They tried too much to match Penrith at Penriths game. Did J. Hughes run the ball once??

[@youchwb6005]

"Lets Gone Melbon!

[@davidsnowden9607]

Best thing about Storm not scoring points is not having to watch Nick Meanie go through that stupid kick routine

[@UK100Adam]

When MArtin caught the high ball he had the line begging for a certain 6 points - instead they shifted to the edge and only just scored in the far corner resulting in 4 points instead of 6 - could have been costly. Penrith also had 2 or 3 more occasions like that - but it did kept the game nervy... If the ball looks like it touched a bladed of grass, is that considered downward pressure? Fair point though, could have gone either way.

[@davidduffin1580]

It wasn't certain.

[@RivingtonAve]

Will Penrith get the opportunity to go for the World Club Challenge? Both Wigan & Penrith already committed to Vegas.

[@mickclarke3068]

Penrith will only play wcc at home wouldn't sign to play game in England if they won gf knowing they are off to vegas

[@youchwb6005]

No WCC for next year because of Vegas, and the players have to have at least 4 or 6 weeks rest before going back just to train.

[@wrecker7928]

Did Penrith score 20 points ..... 😂😂😂 3 out of 5 cheese

[@daz_gibowski348]

It was the loss Melbourne needed to have...... Go Panthers.... Go Tigers...

[@Lorenzogino]

Melbourne's second half performance was weak. In the last ten minutes they weren't playing like a team running points behind. Jahrome Hughes was pedestrian all game. Only Harry Grant, Xavier Coates, and Jack Howarth seemed intent to win.

[@williammason7921]

Munster over-called all game when Hughes and Katoa had an advantage on their edge. He did it against the Sharks too but it paid off for him that time

[@AHuri505]

Unbelievable panthers 4 peat

[@Heybigsambo]

All the talk about Nelson, he was dropped at the start of the season and werent storm trying to trade him? Lol

[@gstar1309]

Put that in writing ' Gordie tipped the Panthers for 2025 and many will agree . Panthers have the recipe for success. They lose some key ingredients this year but they will replace them from the club's depth that are bred from winning DNA

[@sammyojeda9288]

Do any of you think that ppl who live off the game would be as much as a pinch objective regarding the NRL?

[@joebuchanan8141]

Gordy is such a better listen in a more natural setting, very enjoyable compared to in front of the tv cameras. He should stick to this

[@youchwb6005]

Gordie, like anyone else on that comedy hour, have to read the Foxtel/DT memo.

[@mitchellodriscoll240]

Do the mounty bop jehrome 😂

[@networkjay2117]

oh he's doing the mounty flop now hahaha

[@davidduffin1580]

Every finals team HAD to peak a week early JUST to stay in the race. Except Penrith!

[@Dmillseye]

Luai big loss man

[@youchwb6005]

IMO, Talaki will improve the attack.

[@phoenixheke7737]

The pictures you guys were seeing were fake edits ,

[@christiandent7211]

Munster is the most overrated player in the NRL. Did nothing but complain about everything last night.

[@debbierubin2723]

Agreed. And biting another player ?!! How unprofessional can one get!!

[@tombrown9065]

Most overrated player.....touch and go between him and Reece Walsh

[@glennmillard3497]

Munster has always been a whinging, whining, disrespectful person. Harry Grant complains all game as well. Cameron Smith, slater, all the same. Craig Bellamy doesn't believe in fair play. Melbourne bought in wrestling with the chicken wing and control the neck. That ain't sportsmanship. Our game doesn't need or want people like that. The more Melbourne are under pressure the more they complain, whing and carry on. Those are the facts. That's how Craig Bellamy coaches his team. Again those are the facts. More people need to call it out.

[@davidduffin1580]

Munsters complete downfall starts now.

[@safarijoejnr534]

Can't blame him though he was just abit hungry

[@sboz5320]

Stop giving tallis a microphone

[@davidduffin1580]

Grants aussie rules hand-ball pass try celebration has got to go! Its insulting to any true league fan. Its as bad as waving a fijian flag after playing for Australia.. No respect!!!

[@MrEverisforever]

It's crazy that you guys still think an arm is grass 😂

[@Timbuck10]

I have been watching and playing rugby league since I can remember, I have been saying for a while the NRL is scripted and they will make whatever team win if it will make more money.

[@mctrippa1967]

Honestly, they're an overrated team that are just good at manipulating the games' inconsistent rules and refs. Wouldn't be surprised if half their vid sessions are watching refs and what calls these refs get wrong so they dont do it in the game. Nrl needs to redefine some of these rules so every ref is on the same page and so they dont have their own weird interpretations on rules.

[@networkjay2117]

Have you got enough tissues?

[@mickclarke3068]

Ask mum where your is dummy

[@mctrippa1967]

@@networkjay2117 cat kunt 🐱

[@mctrippa1967]

@@networkjay2117 u scared of the truth 🤷🏾‍♂️ get some real emojis grandpa 😂👅🤦🏾‍♂️

[@networkjay2117]

@@mctrippa1967 😭😭😭😭 still crying there son?

[@nathansolo2605]

The Storm should have given Cleary an AFL style sling tackle where you grab the player so they can't move their arms and you slam them into the ground, Cleary's head or left shoulder would have been ideal.

[@NotSoYoungNate]

Nah man that ain't it

[@glennmillard3497]

Yep sling shot and rag doll. They didn't test him, Melbourne were scared 😁 Clearly played it well. Looked after his body. The Panthers were ruled the day. Congratulations of four fifths of the pie🎉

[@jordancross9030]

Rugby league is broken. It's not something to be celebrated.

[@Siimon141]

just shut up and appreciate greatness

[@garry19681]

What are you doing on a rugby league site then? Go back to the ballet

[@davidduffin1580]

Api K must be regretting his decision now😅

[@networkjay2117]

Yeah it must be tough earning more money at the Tigers. Poor fella.

[@davidduffin1580]

@@networkjay2117 when he's 60, he won't be reminiscing about the money.

[@networkjay2117]

@@davidduffin1580 wow that's deep. Dripping with wisdom.

[@mctrippa1967]

@networkjay2117 mate wanna suck any harder?? Like holy shit I've never seen this many dudes ready to suck a whole team off on a sport ur not into cause use can't talk about the game other than surface level stuff an nothing more intricate 😂😂 and use are probably older than me and should have more knowledge 💀🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mctrippa1967]

@@networkjay2117 wanna keep going?? I'm here all day tough guy. 👅

[@jimijackson]

Garbage game. No football was played. Hitups and bombs.

[@garry19681]

Clearly you don’t watch rugby league

[@jimijackson]

I know you are but what am i

[@uteboy86]

I enjoyed it 😂😂😂