THE BIG EV LIE. Why They Won't Save the Planet & All About Dirty Electricity | TheCarGuys.tv

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00:00 It's the EV episode!
02:11 Definition of Global Warming
06:34 Why EVs are not the answer
10:00 Major countries & causes of GHG
16:22 Where does your Electricity come from?
21:20 Why do cars get all the attention?
23:05 What is the answer?
What is the BIG EV Lie? Will electric vehicles save the planet if we all buy them? Are cars definitely the worst causes of Global Warming? And if not, what is? This week it’s the long-awaited EV episode, and I’m afraid, it might not be what you were expecting…
When we first embarked on a whole episode about EVs, we thought it would be easy. Take the piss out of electric cars and their owners, add in some amusing movie clips for comedic effect, do some impressions, use that clip of Greta Thunberg a lot, and Bob’s your uncle.
But the deeper we dug, the more we found, and it became simply impossible to be… well… funny. You see there are some huge issues to deal with here, and it would seem, a lot of misinformation.
Yes, it’s easy to criticise EVs for range anxiety, charging waiting times, the upfront cost of the vehicles, and in one case - that autopilot mode. But forget all that short-term guff and explore with us what will happen in the future - do we have the energy and raw materials to cope with mass EV adoption? And perhaps more importantly, is electricity actually all that green anyway?
This episode has been a year in the making, and whilst it’s not two old guys wise-cracking in a supercar, we still felt it needed to made. We hope you enjoy it.
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[@TheJudge2017]

Reminder. California has banned the sale of Gas cars after 2035. They then, 2 weeks later, told people not to charge the electric cars because the energy grid can not support it.

[@bobmarshall3700]

And they are also saying that there is so much excess solar energy going into the grid that it will overload the system. Big business is just motivated by greed to try to influence stupid people who continue to support fossil fuel. When anything new comes onto the market there are always "teething" problems to overcome. That won't happen when people put their heads in the sand and refuse to make positive changes work by further perserverence in research.

[@zerbutterftw]

lmfao

[@iankinnell5643]

That doesn't shock me with how woke the are

[@DaveT-cv9gp]

People should never read into what California does and just refuse to accept their policy.

[@bobochan4699]

A month later, told people to stop breathing out CO2 cause its greenhouse gas. Except for the ultra rich, they can pay taxes.

[@danf-gg4lk]

When the politicians and celebrities sell their private jets, all their mansions, their limos and live the way they want us to, then maybe they can be taken seriously.

[@deaf19830]

Muchos, well said!! But you only had 2 likes prior to mine. It’s not about the environment, they dumb people down to keep us enslaved in a so called free world. They are controlled by demons who are very smart and manipulative

[@florida57]

That is a great answer. That's why what ever they say if there not setting an example, that's how I know there full of crap. It's all about making money if there invested in these products. Not bettering the environment.

[@williemaykit7940]

I agree.

[@Zulu2020]

My words exactly!

[@enriquet2562]

Exactly ALL, not some, BUT ALL including Trump and Biden

[@user-jd8vl3bt6n]

I always believe the Japanese offer a great model for the rest of the world: efficient public transport + popularity of very small cars (aka k-cars) with excellent fuel efficiency and durability. The problem with cars, primarily, is because too many people love to drive huge SUVs or pick-up trucks with 8 or 12 cylinders transporting hardly more than one person. In Japan, almost half of their cars are 660cc or less and eat less fuel than a motorbike. Yet they work just fine on virtually all kinds of day-to-day needs. That is one of the many reasons why all Japanese automakers are reluctant to invest in pure EVs, because it is not just more expensive to buy but also more expensive to run a EV than a conventional car in Japan.

[@lepidoptera9337]

That sounds good, until you hit the realities of the international car market and then this business strategy is dead on arrival.

[@ThorstenKreutzenberger]

This is kind of stuff you can do in a fachist state. In a democrazy (pun intended) things are different.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@ThorstenKreutzenberger The size of cars is mostly a function of parking. If you go to Europe, you will find that there is nowhere to park a large American truck in a typical medieval European city. People are buying small cars because they don't have space for large ones. It's no different in Tokyo.

[@ThorstenKreutzenberger]

@@lepidoptera9337 I am from Germany and I drive a 33yr old car, a corrado G60. Mostly because its very fast, light and quite small. But over 50% of the cars in this country are huge and enormous in size and heavy like small trucks and most people would buy an Infantry fighting vehicle if they could afford it. Even in big cities. I cant support your statement 100%.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@ThorstenKreutzenberger A Tesla Y (Germany's best selling model in 2023, isn't it?) is not "huge". It's very small compared to a RAM 3500 or a Ford F-450. It's small compared to even a Rivian R1S or R1T. I kind of doubt it will be useful in a city like Milan, though, where you are having trouble parking even a scooter in the back alleys.

[@friendlyfire7861]

Hydrogen is not an energy source. It is an energy storage medium. It takes more energy to isolate hydrogen in burnable form than you get by burning it.

[@stevebradley8862]

Uncertain about point of source vs medium. Energy sources or mediums have energy potential until that is converted into kinetic energy through chemical reaction, heat, pressure etc. The economics of producing lithium batteries compared to the value of energy it produces is net negative and more expensive ($35,000 - 50k/ton) and appear much greater than hydrogen production costs ($500-$1000 per ton). Over 87 billion tons of hydrogen were produced in 2022 and it’s used to make key chemicals like ammonia and iron ore. And it’s plentiful on planet

[@friendlyfire7861]

​@@stevebradley8862 Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, as you point out, but it can't be found anywhere on earth in a form that can be burned since, as a reactive atom and molecule, that has already happened. The easiest place to get it is from water, but the process of burning has to be effectively reversed. That's a net negative of energy. That makes it a storage medium of energy, not a source, which is how it was described at some point in the video. Within the closed system of a car, hydrogen may be seen as a source, but in the system of energy production and use, it is a way to carry energy, not a source of it the way fossil fuels are (you can’t mine hydrogen and burn it for a net positive energy flow). Fossil fuels take energy to refine but have a massive net gain in energy within the system of Earth (not including its ultimate source in solar energy, hence fusion). So the point is clarity, and that clarity sheds light on how it’s a bit of a red herring and on what I think is a problem with the comparison you made above. Producing a ton of lithium is not producing energy but producing a way to carry it in a battery for repeated use. Producing a ton of hydrogen fuel is a way of obtaining a one-time source of energy within a closed system, or, another means of carrying energy for one-time use. Those are two different things, so they should not be directly compared. This in turn is important because while hydrogen has a lot of really excellent uses, it doesn’t rank well for automobiles. Natural gas, for example, is hugely net positive in the refinement process, has a lot more energy per unit mass, and is far easier and safer to transport, store under pressure, and transfer from a fueling station to a vehicle. Hydrogen loses on all counts there although it has a slightly better effect on the local environment. Gasoline or diesel are by far better than hydrogen or natural gas when it comes to energy, safety, and transfer with automobiles, though gasoline is worse on the local environment and diesel somewhat worse still. Being a net negative “source” of energy is just one more blow against it. (By the way, I don’t mean to say that hydrogen is unsafe “because of the Hindenburg.” By now, hydrogen would be as safe on a dirigible as the jet fuel we use on aircraft every day and probably safer-it has a higher ignition temperature, for example. So that’s a facile argument-I am talking about compressed hydrogen. That presents problems with storage, transfer, and getting enough energy in a canister to make it useful for an automobile, in comparison with natural gas or just plain gasoline, which really can’t be beat as a fuel.) Additionally, the concept of using hydrogen or batteries on a large scale are both dependent on a renewable source to make sense in the full system of energy use (not in the closed system of a city, where they produce no pollutants). Wind, solar, hydroelectric, and geothermal power ain’t gonna cut it. It has to be something with real punch like nuclear, and what would really solve the vast majority of any current problems we have with fossil fuels or nuclear power (massively exaggerated, in my opinion), is that magical day when we figure out fusion. And for that, we are just going to have to be patient little boys and girls and wait. ns from one place in the battery to another.

[@tylerdurden3722]

Thats true for all storage mediums in the universe. Otherwise you'd be generating energy out of nothing. Unless you've figured out a way to break the 3rd law of thermodynamics. Think about it. If it took less energy to recharge a battery, than you'll get out of it after fully charged, you'd be creating extra energy out of nothing. Of course the energy you put in to isolate a Lithium-ion from its Cobalt compound, is going to be less than you get out when you chemically bond it with again.

[@friendlyfire7861]

@@tylerdurden3722 Your comment is why people say it is a waste of time to talk to people through comments.

[@davidhair8295]

It may be plentiful, but what he said about expending more energy to make it than you get out of it when used as a fuel! 10:03 n​@stevebradley8862

[@markl4670]

I only know one person who has an EV. He got it through the Motability Scheme and that is the only way he could have afforded it. Average UK car is 7.5 years old. Most people are worrying about how they will pay their energy bill. The idea that most people will move to EVs in the next few years is laughable.

[@stevehayward1854]

Not laughable, as 7.5 years down the road there will be cheap 2nd hand EV's on the market, the change is already happening, embrace it, PS do you still have your old Nokia phone, I think not. Progress happens and no complaining in the world can stop it, sorry

[@dnlmachine4287]

@@stevehayward1854 A 7.5 year old EV driven conservatively may be a good find. If it can be found at a good price. But most people selling one in good condition with high battery capacity remaining will be asking premium price. A 7.5 year old EV with high mileage/battery use may need a new battery soon. Still may be a good buy, if by that time a replacement battery is a reasonable price. Cheap could be seen as a relative concept, considering numerous factors. Stay gold.

[@dakotakasal2860]

@@stevehayward1854 I don't buy used batteries for anything else I use everyday.

[@Straightupshooter]

You will have no choice if manufacturers won'd make ICE vehicles any longer.

[@dakotakasal2860]

@@Straightupshooter at that point, I'm getting a horse.

[@paulsmith3820]

This is a very good presentation. I spent more than 30 years in the electric utility business in Texas. My company operates one of two nuclear power stations in Texas. It is the most reliable form of power generation. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Texans, as well as people around the world, don't have a clue about electric energy, i.e., how it is generated, transmitted, distributed, or costed. They are easy prey for demagogues. At the end of the day, the key question is what can I do to reduce my environmental footprint. What my counterpart in China does is immaterial; I have no control over him. So, I drive a Toyota Corolla, live in a small house, use public transport whenever possible, turn off the lights when not in use, etc. Little things add up.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Very sensible approach, Paul. Thanks for watching.

[@donaldoehl7690]

I live in Texas too, but I'll be damned if I'm giving up my AC!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@donaldoehl7690 😂😂

[@paulsmith3820]

@@donaldoehl7690 No one is asking you to give up your AC. The most effective cost/benefit trade off for most Texans is to set the thermostat at 78 in the summer and run ceiling fans.

[@macflod]

Hey that is exactly the point. Rampant consumerism is the biggest problem. Instead of constantly buying new stuff manufactured on the other side of earth, keep things longer. Then people will say economies collapse but i disagree, as whole new shops can open servicing and repairing older items- Like there used to be. I don’t like how economists call us consumers! It makes we think of some parasite constantly eating stuff! But this is the truth, we buy too much stuff, if we all kept our cars 2 or three years longer, bought new clothes less and do on then that would have a huge impact to help. However its harder to sell that path to people as it requires sacrifice, easier to get them to buy a trendy new car with a green badge on it.

[@jeremiahpuckett5836]

One thing you could have mentioned is the effects of the pandemic and global shutdown. Air travel was greatly reduced. Cruise ships halted completely. Non-essential factories were shut down. In the USA, We instantly saw 95-97% of cars suddenly off the roads. Thats better than converting to EV, as EV is still charged with coal and gas. The ICE cars and EVs were sitting in garages. Yet, we only saw a 5.4% reduction in CO2 emissions. We shut down globally, and it didn’t even make a dent. CO2 in the atmosphere still increased.

[@craig0077]

Climate change and global warming is a big scam to stop the peasants (like us) from using fossil fuels so there is more for the private jets, yachts and mansions for the ELITE. CO2 is actually good for plant life, which makes the planet more fertile and will produce bigger harvests. Don't believe all the climate change lies.

[@mikemoses1009]

That's the only reason the shut down planned by every one that needed to know and the test results of no reduction in CO2 gas or effect on our planet

[@RedpillPortugal]

Because it's all a lie

[@BillClinton228]

No one asks really important questions like where is the emissions tax money going? This is just another money making racket and nothing more

[@craig0077]

@@BillClinton228That's what you get (or don't get) from the left wing marxist press.

[@mattect]

I work for a fuel company that delivers to the back up generators for the power company with more ev's out there the back up generators are working overtime using 8000 litres of diesel per day just to keep the grids from having a black out

[@TheCarGuysTV]

V interesting and not surprising

[@rylans.5365]

Even if that’s the case, operating an EV still is more efficient even when charged on a generator. Look under a gas car, there will be a tailpipe. Look under an EV, there will not be a tailpipe. This is basically THE reason why EVs produce less lifetime emissions overall. You fill up a gas car with fuel that has been extracted, refined, and transported, only to be used in an engine and burned. The amount of energy lost in that process is measurable. In an EV, just by taking out that last source of emissions, you’re left with a vehicle that is considerably cleaner, more efficient, and less expensive to run than a combustion vehicle.

[@David-mb5di]

​@rylans.5365 I'm not an expert, but the emissions from a car exhaust would be comparable to the emissions of the generator, charging an EV with electricity from a generator would be an extra step to just using the combustion engine, a generator uses the same combustion.

[@Billy-the-Kid]

@@rylans.5365 You sort of forgot how much more raw materials and energy you need to produce a much more heavy EV vehicle. Additionally, most grid electricity is produced from fossil energy. Plus if you want all-EV, you have to generate like 5 X and build a 5 X as big grid.

[@andrewday3206]

@@David-mb5di Generators run at peak efficiency which car engines do not. ICE powered cars do not reach even 20% average efficiency.

[@jeraldheinrich3589]

Really liked the video. Another reason cars are being demonized is because they are freedom, to go where you want and make personal choices which, government officials hate.

[@chadcoady9025]

Man, I hope you lose that tin foil hat mentality. Government officials are human beings like you and me and they don't hate freedom (most of them). The politicians who are corporate owned (75% of them) are NOT working for the people, but for corporate interest first, and the rest of their constituents later. If you want to know which ones are looking out for corporate interest, just look at the ones who continuously work on behalf of big business and constantly think that tax cuts for the wealthy HELP society because if billionaires make a few extra billion, they will pay their employees more. We know trickle down economics is a failure and the days from the 1950's when the wealthy were taxed HIGH, a family had no problem surviving with one parent working, stay at home mom and little to no debt. Lowering taxes for the wealthy has NEVER had a positive effect on the wages of the middle class.

[@theone5404]

So true. That's the whole truth.

[@Drew-be5dh]

I’m sure the oil companies have nothing to do with your distrust in electric cars.

[@hubertwalters4300]

@cheeseboi Hate to butt in,but you need to get a grip on reality,you have bought in to the greatest misinformation campaign(Big Lie) in history,there is no man made global warming, i.e.climate change,the Earth has gone through periods of warming and cooling for thousands of years even before there were humans on the Earth,besides you are not getting rid of CO2 production, just moving the source of CO2 production from here to Communist China, where there are no pollution control regulations like here in the US,most of the rare earth materials used for the batteries come from Communist China, and to keep manufacturing of all of this cheap low quality junk for us Americans, they are building and opening coal fired electric generating plants of at one or two a week, all of the CO2 produced there will end up in the atmosphere, and since the batteries and also most of the wind mill moters and solar panels are made in Communist China, so when you buy a EV or used so called renewable energy you are helping the economy of Communist China, which is the number one foreign enemy of the US,we shouldn't do anything to help there economy, instead we should cut off all trade with Communist China, we should tell American companies having there products made there,that if the want to sell there products in the US,they will have to make there products in the US or at least pay extremely high tariffs on there goods.

[@GDMHificationranpitc]

Freedom to sit in traffic and kill 40K Americans in car wrecks anually?

[@jeffreycheng5984]

"You cannot have an honest discussion about climate change without addressing the climate engineering intervention operations."- Dane Wigington.

[@Robbedem]

I'm afraid we will have to resort to climate engineering. I just hope that over 50 years we won't have created another issue instead. (which tbh, seems rather likely)

[@zanshikaijin2709]

Actually, I don't think most people can have an honest conversation about the topic. Too many evangelists.

[@tedmoss]

@chemik That's to negative, how about with the help of the sane part of the world, Ukraine will put Russia out of its misery and everyone will be better off.

[@tedmoss]

@chemik We have been there before - about 10 to 15 thousand years ago.

[@TrentGustus]

@@tedmoss actually the way western governments are going, predicting food shortages, raising taxes on everything, locking society down with plandemics, all feeding political and corporate greed, the future might be better in Russia with Krause, Bill gates running the west.

[@JamesEhler]

When we did "Cash for Clunkers" here in the US and i read the list of cars turned in, there was a... (wipes away tear) 1987 Buick Gran National. As part of turning it in.... they HAD to destroy the motor!! Oh the humanity!!

[@theboyisnotright6312]

That program was so evil. Gone were the 500$ beaters for sale. Now you need at least 2k for a clunker. 😢

[@RfromG-bd4fb]

Do the right thing to save the planet. Don't buy an electric car. Buy a medium-sized economy car and use E10 fuel. Who said so? Well, BMW for one.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yep

[@cbonz7734]

I have a small EV but not for the reasons one might expect. I was spending over $465 a month to fuel my 5.7L Hemi in urban driving. Now I spend less than $50 for the electricity to run the EV. For traveling we use a sedan that we rarely use. I was not even thinking about saving the environment, because I agree it's pretty much hopeless, rather keeping my money out of the pockets of the oil companies and in mine instead.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

It’s a fair point and one I support - hence “freedom of choice”

[@joesteel3459]

I’m just curious why you weren’t using the sedan you rarely use, for the urban driving if you were looking to save on fuel cost?

[@cbonz7734]

@@joesteel3459 We sold the Hemi and kept the sedan. I was using the Hemi jeep to explore the mountains, I now rent instead.

[@efallser123]

So what would happen to your fuel bill if you went from your gas guzzler to for an example Nissan versa. Would you save in fuel? SMH I bet the ev you have now is no bigger than a compact car ? Right? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if you drive a smaller car you spend less money on fuel. Whenever I see these type of examples of how ev are better I always laugh how that makes sense to anyone. If I drive an 18Wheeler in urban area and switch to an compact car will I save on fuel. Or does that only work if I switch to an ev.

[@brenna1340]

@@efallser123 Gas costs differ rather dramatically depending upon where you live, whether your government is subsidizing and or taxing it, etc. It's MUCH cheaper to drive an ev where I am, and that's accounting for a comparison of same sized vehicles.

[@TheFRiNgEguitars]

The term "electric car" sounds high tech and attractive. The term "Battery Powered car" describes accurately what it is.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

So true

[@ryanguffy4739]

Every rechargeable battery toy in my life has been a dissapointment ....doubt a car would be different.

[@sigint99]

Not all eVs are battery powered. There are hydrogen and zinc air fuel cell eVs which are a better proposition for longer range and safety.

[@ricktd6891]

Communist death machine is better.

[@GK-op4oc]

Electric Motor Car accurately describes the car because it has an electric motor (and brakes !)

[@hopelessdecoy]

My workplace banned paper coffee cups and plastic silverware in the cafe for the planet but made everyone drive back to the office 100%. We mainly talk on phones and zoom

[@bankaihampter2802]

They live in a delusion. Taking away plastic silverware and thinking they changing something. Makes me angry. I hate those paper straws in mcd since they were introduced. I can't enjoy my shake with proper straw while some influencers are flying on private jets

[@kencarp57]

The ridiculous virtue-signalling is all too common these days. It's like putting a bandaid on a cancer. It's completely USELESS, but it makes them look like they're doing SOMETHING to help. It my view, it simply makes them look STUPID. Don't get me started on this whole "back to the office" nonsense. That is ALL about executive EGOS... they want everyone back in the office because they want to see people "working" and "collaborating", even though they don't really even know what that means, nor how to measure the effectiveness of it. It's simply the world they grew up in and with which they are most comfortable. It's a culture thing, and culture is by FAR the most difficult thing to change. They don't know how to measure people when they are not in sight, which is stupid because numbers are numbers and the computerized systems track everything anyway. It's just pure executive hubris, and living in the past by trying to maintain the perception that they are in control of things. Hint: they're NOT! During the pandemic shutdowns, the air quality in large cities improved DRAMATICALLY, and people were quite happy NOT having to commute to the office every day. The price of oil actually went NEGATIVE for a time because of the lack of demand because people weren't driving a hour to and from the office twice every work day. But business went on just fine. But now, thanks to all of these ridiculous "back to the office" directives, it's pretty much back to where it was. My wife's company, in the insurance business, requires all employees to be in the office 4 days every week. The people HATE having to do that, but they aren't given a choice. There is no reason for this at all, because 99% of the people are just sitting there working on their computers and talking to other people on MS Teams all day anyway. But, their executives all grew up in the Old World, in which everyone went to the office every day - and they just don't "get" remote working nor remote collaboration. It's absolutely ridiculous for them to require people to commute to and from the office every day, but they just can't get over their antiquated "I need you HERE so I can SEE you working, even though I literally spend 99% of every single day sitting in MY office talking on the phone or doing video sessions myself" mindset. My company is much more open to it. I work for a large tech firm, and the remote working thing is much more accepted. They still want us to go see customers in person - even though getting travel approvals is well-nigh IMPOSSIBLE, and the customers really don't want vendors on site anyway. But I'm finally retiring at the end of this month, and I will no longer have to deal with ANY of this craziness!

[@rickiecheese36]

Thanks for a very good video. This should be compulsory viewing for the nation and in schools. The best thing for the environment is to keep the car you have, try to drive it less, and keep it for as long as possible. We need to stop the leasing model for cars. where they are replaced very 3 years. I have never understood why people are so anti nuclear power, but even I was shocked that it is cleaner than wind and solar.

[@chipparker3950]

Cruise liners, golf courses, fast fashion, cheap products not repairable and short lived, mass spectator sporting events. Infrastructure design requiring long commute times, large homes, heavy cars and personal trucks, vacation jet travel, personal jets and yachts. If there is a real problem and we must do something about it..

[@mixflip]

I agree. EV should be a personal choice. I would like an EV for my commute 5 days a week....and a big V8 4x4 to play with on the weekends.

[@TerraRyzin78]

For what the V8? Dirty, ponderous, expensive fuel,...

[@mixflip]

@@TerraRyzin78 I know right...isn't it glorious

[@TerraRyzin78]

@@mixflip yeah 1000% for sure :D

[@rogerphelps9939]

So you wish it to be your personal choice to make the plasnet uninhabitable in large swathes for your kids and ghrandchildren. That is very selfish, isn't it.

[@mixflip]

@@rogerphelps9939 oh please....spare the holier than thou BS. Where do you think all that electricity will come from if we snap our fingers and make all 270 million cars require charging at the same time? The grid would shut down if we all switched. Plus we still need to run our ac units in the summer while charging cars. Also do you even know what it takes to build a battery? Elements like lithium cobalt nickel graphite copper manganese carbon... how do you think we get these materials out of the ground? With diesel and gas machines. How do we transport them? With dielectric and gas trucks and trains. How do we process them? In factories that run off the electrocal grid (turbines that use fossil fuel) and emits pollution by the millions of tons. How do they deliver the vehicles? On trucks and trains that use gas and diesel. The carbon footprint of EVs is not what you think. It's not green at all. It's just more convenient to kick the problem down the road. Not solve it.

[@stevencasteel6799]

One other reason why cars are the target: When you control mobility, you control the population.

[@chestrockwell8328]

Been saying this for years as well.

[@thomasrudder9639]

Nah, food

[@alansach8437]

Freedom from 5.00 a gallon (and climbing) gasoline, and oil changes, tune ups etc. sounds like mobility to me!!

[@chestrockwell8328]

@@alansach8437 Could be, in the short term. Two years ago we had $2 gallon gas, no supply issues. Things change as you know. Controlling your ability to be mobile via EV is way easier than with petrol power.

[@stevencasteel6799]

@@alansach8437 until the price of electricity skyrockets due to the lack of infrastructure, plus excessive wait time at the charging stations,plus the incredible cost of maintenance thereof assuming it exists in sufficient quantity.

[@markbourne4623]

Thanks for the sensible discussion on why EVs are not the saviour of humanity that Elon Musk and Co are trying so hard to convince us that they are. Like you, I have long failed to understand why there is such a huge push to force people to adopt EVs when ICE vehicles account for such a small fraction of global greenhouse gas emissions.

[@remocampagna8780]

Wow! You should be a politician. Some of the figures on the charts used are questionable but you are spot on with everything you have said. I am an old petrol head that runs diesel vans for business and have had an Ev for 3years. I can’t argue with anything you have said, so how do our elected politicians get away with what is ultimately an ego trip for them. It’s time we all stood up to this bs.

[@brucew5130]

Some great points there. Unfortunately I have no faith in our shallow thinking governments. If nothing changes they’ll blindly run us into an electricity supply crisis. Prices will skyrocket well beyond what we can comprehend.

[@IanMcc1000]

If you read an interview with the guy that runs the UK National Grid, he doesn't think there will be a problem. Not every car will be on charge at the same time, and about half will be charged at night on the owners driveway. There is huge capacity off peak that is wasted currently. Energy prices are skyrocketing - if we wanted to reduce draw on the grid, we should ban crypto mining.

[@dlarge6502]

@@IanMcc1000 > we should ban crypto mining Omg that is so ridiculous a thought it is indicative of the real problems in how people think as this video demonstrates. We should ban fashion and shopping. Mining is peanuts to that.

[@IanMcc1000]

@@dlarge6502 proof of stake, not proof of work is much more energy efficient and would help towards semiconductor shortage

[@IanMcc1000]

@@dlarge6502 The point is, that cars will often be charged off peak using spare capacity. Mining runs 24/7. It uses about 0.5% of the worlds electricity, which might seem like small fry but is actually a lot of electricity. One bitcoin transaction uses 1719.51 kilowatt hours - or 6876 miles in an EV. I'd agree with you that fast fashion is an environmental problem too.

[@neknosnaws5990]

As demand increases, prices rise to stay in the same ratio to other prices were before. This ratio will approximate the current cost of petroleum fuel, so where will be the savings when that happens?

[@stephenzhou2501]

As a Chinese viewer, I seldom make comments on KZbin. But I have to say that this is by far the most objective and unbiased discussion on EV and emission reduction I've ever seen. China promotes EV mostly out of concern over energy security, not CO2 neutralization, which most of us think is a trap set up by white-leftists.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Great to have you watching

[@larryclark9380]

Stephen Zhou, interesting...how you separate "white-leftists" from "leftists". Are we to be suspicious of all Chinese because of their skin color? Better to separate those who love liberty to those who would control others by force.

[@Raksasaification]

If u r really from China then you know air pollution in major Chinese cities were a grave concern until the last 5 to 7 years. Using EV the Chinese can move a large chunks of pollutants to industrial area - and it s easier for industrials to handle large amt of pollutants.

[@harryadam1671]

Except it ignores the alternative to evs which are petrol and diesel powered cars. The comparison is horrendous with those being way, way worse than the electric alternative. In short - this video is actually nonsense. See my comment above.

[@ricktd6891]

It's commie Marxist Agenda 21. CO2 doesn't control the temperature of Earth but he who controls CO2 controls EVERYTHING ON EARTH. See how that works? There'd nothing you can do without creating some CO2, therefore if the bogus U.N. can "regulate" CO2, they control everything on Earth, George Soros style.

[@guillaumepilon8167]

As i always says almost nobody is or can be truely clean in term of polution. You need to think about all factor, there's way better ways to be greener other rhen running an ev like not buying cheap made in china stuff, stop going on useless cruise ship, reducing airplane flow etc... If you worry about the polution so much you should look at your life style and what you buy/eat/wear

[@hippie-io7225]

Regardless of our leanings, it is most important that our discussions involve ideas we don't like. Thanks for pushing on us to think. We humans are vulnerable to goofy ideas. Some goofy ideas have been of great benefit to humanity, others have been quite harmful. How are we going to know unless the topic is brought to the fore, warts and all!! (with occasional miss directions and bad data)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I agree completely

[@nzkiwi9]

I have a background in the air freight industry in addition to nuclear & solar energy fields. Everything I saw in this video was spot on, level headed & reasonable. Thank you for adding to the conversation in a constructive way.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@virtual-adam]

Do you agree with the view that hybrids are the best way to go?

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@virtual-adam It’s better than full EVs in my opinion

[@virtual-adam]

@@TheCarGuysTV Seems to be a good choice from the graphs I've seen. But how accurate they are I don't know!

[@JohnDoe-ff2fc]

@@virtual-adam A hybrid can get you away from your home if you live in California when they shut down power lines during a brush/forest fire and your battery needs a charge by using gas

[@GremlinSciences]

I love the "Total emissions per car in its lifetime" figures. Anyone realize just how long a diesel engine lasts compared to a petrol engine, and how much harder they're ran? Diesel vehicles tend to see a lot more mileage under a lot more load, and when you're comparing the emissions of a big rig that's been hauling 20 tonnes of freight 16 hours a day 6 days a week for 20+ years to a dinky 4-door sedan that was only driven a few hours each week for 5 years, it's kinda obvious which one will have emitted more over its life.

[@edwardcullen1739]

Also notice that the diesel had higher total mileage in the graphic. I also believe that there was some SERIOUS manipulation of the figures with respect to fuel - that there was some "offsetting" of the CO2 for the petrol to make it look much better. Also, why do diesel vehicles take more to produce? This smells... The issue with diesel is NOT CO2, it's particulates and byproducts, such as oxides of nitrogen, that are bad for human health.

[@DuKsOmI]

And the scale is chosen to look like it’s a huge difference between petrol and diesel, but it’s just quite small… or at least smaller than it appears in the graph.

[@GremlinSciences]

@@davidc2838 The strain on the power grid is _massive_ though, and the range is honestly atrocious for how long it takes to charge them. Diesel semi can get as much as 2500 km from a single refueling which takes less than 10 minutes. Electric semi only gets 750km before it reaches 0% which takes 45+ minutes at a 1.5 MEGAwatt charger to recharge, and that range is cut down considerably if the trailer requires power (eg, a refrigerated trailer) all that time saved on fueling/charging means they can get further in a day and haul more freight in less time, and that compounds with the diesel semi being considerably lighter meaning it can haul more per load and thus earn more per load. EDIT: corrected an incorrect time. 30 minute charge time on the Tesla semi is for 20-80%, but charging slows after 80%. Updated figure of 45 minutes is for 30-100%, equivalent to ~500 km range with a 30% buffer for powered trailers. Also, I'd like to point out that most truckers hate waiting even 5 minutes to confirm a delivery, they won't take too kindly to having to take an extra 2-3 hours every day to charge when their diesel truck only took 10 minutes every other day. They only get so many hours a day to drive, and even their stops for food and fuel cut into that.

[@DuKsOmI]

@@davidc2838 you are very optimistic… the question is, if they really wanna try it by using batteries, because I don’t see any future there. Fuel alternatives in combination with an electric motor could actually be the future. But we’ll see, your can’t predict the future, neither can I.

[@GremlinSciences]

@@BelowMeGoggle Diesel engines can run on _anything_ flammable as long as you achieve sufficient compression. You can get them to run on cotton and other plant fibers, or even plain atmosphere if you try hard enough. Other potential fuels include natural gas byproducts from landfills and composting, synthetic gas from heating assorted biomass, plant and/or animal lipids, and plant- or algae-based sludges.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

I have had my Sportster for 25 years and 400,000 miles on the original engine. I have had my Triumph Tr-6 with a hard tail and magneto for 40 years. That's being green.

[@YippingFox]

I love the little lifetime graph. Like a car at 180.000km is so broken it can't be driven anymore.

[@hagerty1952]

9:05 I've been driving my 1974 Alfa GTV for 46 years (47 in August) and it has 639,000 miles on it (well over one million km). I use this "minimum carbon footprint" argument all the time.

[@springer-qb4dv]

Yes my econobox car is 30 years old and still going strong. It's practically brand new compared to yours. LOL Gasoline cars will last far longer than any EV because they are maintainable and repairable with modest amount of equipment and skill. On the other hand, EVs stuffed to gills with high tech and zillion lines of compute code is nothing more than an appliance, and will be worthless as soon as cost of reviving the unrepairable rube goldberg machine becomes greater than the residual value.

[@flouisbailey]

Another reason good used cars are now over priced. Was it the 1970 when cars started getting green with choking emissions control and decreased fuel economy and performance. But they were cleaner, sure.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@springer-qb4dv And what do you do when your $20k dollar battery craps out after a decade?

[@xanthoptica]

It's too bad you have your "minimum carbon footprint" argument exactly backwards. The carbon emissions from a gasoline vehicle are almost all fuel (rather than production) over its lifetime. EVs do result in greater CO2 emissions during production, but with realistic estimates, even a 100 kWh battery vehicle is already lower-carbon after roughly 2 years of normal driving. Even replacing your 1974 vehicle with an efficient modern gas car would emit less carbon in a short amount of time. Want to see the actual numbers? Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIPLpZyGmsuJsK8

[@shorty5346]

Wow and I thought I was the only one that runned my Toyota carina 2 1989 at over 250,000 miles on it drive every day but these days I learned that theres no mechanics around that knows how to fix old cars it's all electronics these days

[@gordons3071]

One of the best straightforward videos on this subject I've seen. Most thinking people know EV's are not a cure all, but all people need to explore all sides of the problems. Oh, and like you, I loathe the self-righteous ignorant people who look down on others and ignorantly believe they are saving the world by owning an EV.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad you enjoyed it, Gordon

[@curtisducati]

This is why we all pay massive electric bills , to fill a car cost's £70 , cost's £20 to charge a car OR IT DID ....Now it costs £70 to charge a car or will doo very soon , this is why the electric is triple charge now , the government is losing millions a week in lost diesel & petrol tax ....So they triple the electricity hahahahaha

[@jdb5152]

Those that think electricity is a “free market” are delusional. We know the price is fixed. It’s all about keeping you poor. So, indeed, prices will triple and quadruple soon. “They” must maintain cash flow. So, if the “energy industry” is $1 today, it must be $1 tomorrow. So, don’t start thinking you’re gonna save money. “They” want it and “they” will take it.

[@lisashiela9137]

Electric vehicles have a dirty secret: the lithium and cobalt that are in EV car batteries destroy the environment and violate human rights. EVs contribute to environmental problems in ways that many people might not even realize. Lithium mining requires a massive amount of water, which is increasingly in short supply in many regions of the world. Approximately 500,000 gallons of water get used for every ton of lithium mined. To extract lithium, “miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface.” The water then evaporates after several months, which leaves lithium and other minerals. The Lithium Triangle in South America, which includes portions of Bolivia, Chile, and Argentina, contains more than half of the world’s supply of lithium. The region is also very dry. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, lithium mining consumes 65% of the region’s water. The problem is so bad that farmers and other people in the local communities have to get water elsewhere. In addition to using a great deal of water, lithium mining causes water, soil, and air pollution. Toxic chemicals like hydrochloric acid used in the mining process can leak from evaporation pools and contaminate the surrounding area. Another problem regarding lithium-ion EV car batteries is the high amount of lithium-ion waste. For example, in Australia, “only two percent of the country’s 3,300 metric tons” of lithium-ion batteries get recycled. The lithium-ion waste typically ends up in landfills, where it can potentially leak into the environment. In addition to lithium, another mineral used in EV car batteries is cobalt. Unfortunately, cobalt mining has many of the same negative environmental impacts as lithium. This includes water, soil, and air pollution.

[@curtisducati]

@@lisashiela9137 Glad I kept my Diesel !

[@RoniMogy]

We need more of you on KZbin and in the government

[@azul29156]

Your summary of what should be done about the problem is epic and well thought out. If only they would start teaching this in schools.

[@MmeCShadow]

19:23 "Our politicians have little understanding of what they're doing." Not to speak for the UK, but over in the US upper-level support for green energy is much less about a lack of understanding and more about a malicious refusal to acknowledge facts proportionate to how much money a given industry is shoveling toward the politicians.

[@morninboy]

Like Ted Cruz being beholden to the NRA. Kids with military assault rifles and armed guards at every school. Stupid is as stupid does

[@craigcampbell8560]

The sad thing is the legion of morons who mindlessly believe what they are told are convinced that the petroleum industry is the ONLY one who is greasing up the politicians. BOTH sides are buying politicians.

[@pat5882]

It’s called a cognitive dissonance. Think: Whacked green politicians

[@Mhmuh]

They know damn well what they're doing

[@Diana1000Smiles]

People are such good writers. I feel envy.

[@animal355]

The best quote I read recently was; ‘The EV isn’t designed to save the planet, but to save the motor industry’ and that says it all.

[@itheuserfirst3186]

No one needs to save the motor industry. People prefer cars; not public transportation, and as pandemics continue to arise, the whole people crammed together like rats in cities ideal will seem even less appealing.

[@animal355]

@@itheuserfirst3186 I think the EV revolution will close down many small independent manufacturers, Caterham, Morgan and many more. It will in fact damage the motor industry.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

@@animal355 *That's inaccurate. Those are specialty builders. The larger market is focused on daily drivers. Caterham, Morgan, Lotus et al do not build cars for the masses and will be fine. Even if the oil industry is reduced, these cars' low use/low demand would keep them on the market.*

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

@@itheuserfirst3186 *Not taking the bus (a motor vehicle) or train doesn't mean people will have a car the next day. The cost to own a personal car is too high for the majority of people on the planet. The fix is fewer private cars and more buses, streetcars, and taxis. If most of these are electric there's less pollution trying to kill us.*

[@animal355]

@@hulkhatepunybanner but aren’t all car manufacturers got to diverse into EV technologies by 2030? It’s what I read for the UK

[@BlazingSaddles129]

Brilliant video thanks for doing it. I do have a second hand EV and it was the same price as roughly the same size petrol or diesel vehicle, the main reason I got it was the cost of running it. My wife uses it to go to work and back about 20 miles a day so it's fine for her. I would not have bought it if she had to go long journeys as it would have made no sense. It is fantastic to drive though up to a point. I have heard all arguments for and against EV's and ICE's and to be fair I don't have a preference for either now but the EV at the moment is cheaper to run mainly because of our solar panels and the ridiculously cheap energy tariff at night. Let's face it the human race is very selfish so if it's cheaper to drive either one, then most would drive the cheapest as would I.

[@robbalinski1606]

Honestly longevity and operational life plus resale wise diesel would have made more long term sense. Teslas are already dropping like flyies

[@fyank1]

EV all the way for me. Been driving electric for 10 years now and they are brilliant. Would never go back to shitty old fossil burners. Cheap and clean is the way forward.

[@chumleye1112]

Cheaper until you have to change the battery.$$$$$$ then you may as well scrap it.

[@alexanderdonnelly424]

@@fyank1what planet are you living on, wait until they put taxes on your free electricity plus road tax? Your wee bubble is about to burst, we will see how much you like EVs then?

[@fyank1]

Get real fella. ​@@alexanderdonnelly424

[@warrenny]

As an environmentalist and all around wisdom seeker, I truly appreciate the thought put into this video. Like you, I realize that the problem is massive and has been building like an avalanche for hundreds of years. No single group public or private is the blame. We all contribute. People who tweet about it or pass judgement back and forth do ABSOLUTELY nothing to help. The reason that Americans went to the moon is because of the positive things that the government did: hiring the best scientists and helping to develop technologies. The government didn't ban people from drinking orange juice and make them drink Tang to support a "portable food" industry. Point is, we can beat the problem if we use money and resources where it counts.....and not use them for political purposes or just to tax people because they are scared.

[@davidjuchems]

It's good to hear a sane person talk about reality thank you

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamesstewart1794]

100 💯💪💯💪💯💪💯

[@deadwingdomain]

Do you feel better. Because Electric is still the way to go.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@deadwingdomain Have you learnt nothing, Don?

[@nastynick7125]

@@deadwingdomain man you’re dumb

[@SeanWork]

Yep - I would say one of the worst things when it comes to climate change is simply consumerism. The need for always obtaining brand new stuff. It takes energy to produce and ship anything. Which means carbon emissions. It'd be amazing if people demanded products that lasted a long time. That'd be a huge help. Finally, nuclear power is probably the fastest solution to getting cleaned up quickly. That will take care of industry and transportation.

[@user-qy9tf2im7f]

Nuclear waste is easier to contain than the toxic waste that EV's will generate by disposing of Lithium Batteries. Those who worry about Climate change with any real Earth Science Knowledge don't realize that at one time all our Barrier Island Cities & Towns were once Sand Bars! Miami was in the middle of an Ocean @ one time. I agree that EV's should be a choice and agree with the CARGUYs. Reforesting the Amazon would have more effect on CO2 emissions than banning Fossil Fuels. The Hypocrisy of Climate Change Zealots' like John Kerry flying around in a Private Jet makes me cringe every time they open their mouths and preach how they are saving the World. We are never going to stop China & India and for God's sake they still burn peat in Green Ireland. All we are doing is making our Society Poorer when the majority of the World could care less. Look @ Green Norway that is blessed with good sources of Hydroelectricity, yet the Countries wealth is derived from Fossil Fuel Exports. End the Hypocrisy. Just look at the last Meteorology Studies that found that the increase in Tropical Storms was being cause by less particulates in the Atmosphere. The sane reason to seek alternatives to Fossil Fuels is that they are finite and to perpetuate the Human Race we need to constantly find new sources to produce energy. As someone Educated and Employed in A Green Industry my entire life I learned to tune out the Zealots of Doom 45 years ago. Yes they have been around a long time and none have them have ever had their Prophecies come true.

[@2148aa]

Breeder reactors must be revisited. Spent fuel is the biggest problem not dealt with.

[@user-qy9tf2im7f]

@@2148aa Because commercial reactors were never designed as breeders, they do not convert enough uranium-238 into plutonium to replace the uranium-235 consumed.

[@oecw124]

People used to demand their products lasted. But companies preyed on the weakness of people's vanity. They produced the newest coolest thing rendering older more reliable stuff obsolete.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

This isn’t existential. China and India won’t change. So West, your coming poverty won’t help. If you are serious go nuclear. Or how about deploying ruminant livestock which greens the desert. This sequesters co2. Even though it’s not a big problem.

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

Norway and Denmark have the highest ownership of electric cars in Europe. Research is showing the countries with the worst air pollution in Europe are Norway and Denmark, the two countries with the highest EV ownership. Norway and Denmark have 20% higher air pollution than most other European countries. Emissions from Internal Combustion Engines have dropped while the pollution from dangerous tyre dust has increased. Electric cars, because of the heavy battery pack, produce more tyre dust than comparable Internal Combustion Engines cars. The bigger and heavier the EV the more tyre dust produced. Truck tyres are made from natural rubber and do not pollute as much, while car tyres are made from some natural rubber and a concoction of the most toxic chemicals imaginable. Most of them cancer-causing carcinogens. Tyre dust is also polluting the ocean and is a threat to marine life.

[@delinquense]

Finally .. a video that lays out the whole EV landscape/global warming/ climate change drama in a concise and sensible format. El perfecto. Thanks. * I'll send a link to all my blue -haired friends. Wait ... I don't have any! And if they need this video to explain things to them ... they wouldn't be my friends in the first place. I can't deal with stupidity or hypocrisy.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@Tricklarock]

I have been saying this since the HUGE push to 'go electric' began! Just 'cuz your car isn't spewing CO2/CO and diesel smoke doesn't mean that the plant you got your electricity from isn't!!!

[@Emceepe]

Why do you suppose everyone doesn’t have a generator at home for their main power supply? Could it possibly be significantly cheaper and more efficient to produce power in bulk rather than having individual power plants in every house and car?

[@italianjob4947]

That plant is already producing electricity, so it's still better to remove cars that are spewing out fumes.

[@Emceepe]

@tipihedroncollider you seem to be grossly confused with the differences between carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide.

[@Emceepe]

@tipihedroncollider solar panels are made of the 2 most recycled materials on Earth. Glass and aluminum. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Emceepe]

@tipihedroncollider your ignorance doesn’t make things true and you know it. Otherwise you’d provide some shred of evidence as to why glass and aluminum can’t be recycled.

[@borountree4539]

I bought a year old 1980 Datsun B210 wagon and drove it for 27 years. Was still going strong but I needed something easier for my mom to transfer into since she had become disabled. I bought a 4 year old Scion XB and hope to drive it forever since I love it so much. Besides being the best thing for the planet at the moment it also saves so much money to buy a lightly used car and drive it as long as possible.

[@pvmagnus]

Yes. Problem is most others including the guy who made this video doesn't want that. That's why if the problem of emissions has to be solve we need marshal plan action.. that this thing like a war & get rationing going.

[@bumponlog]

Really the best benefit with EV's which doesn't seem emphasized enough is getting rid of the engine and all the countless maintenance items and mechanical parts in an ICE vehicle. How wonderful to never again change oil, spark plugs, air filters, transmission fluid, valve gaskets, timing chains....the list goes on and on. Not having to worry about any of that ever with an EV is absolutely amazing.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

You had to change all those tings yourself, did you? And instead of all those little items at relatively low cost, you just have one enormous battery replacement cost 👍🏻 Woo-hoo!

[@user-eq5bj3tz3e]

hi as an bachelor electric mechanic from Belgium , i sadly agree but it's even worse ! but I'll start to say why government jumped on this wagon , 1st opec (+) ; less energy independence but also bigger profits for electric company and less maintenance sice people have to service their own solar panels while the energy company can sell the extra at high price to those that don't have solar panels. second: your biggest mistake : the air quality will go down !! most pollution is caused by tires and brakes , since ev is 30% heavier and accelerate faster ... Those small particals keep drifting around at ground level and that is where we and most animals breath, those are worse for our system than co². - also nucleaire is not so good as you may think , the cooling towers produce H²O vapor and mostly dump hot water in nearby water (global heating not air quality) 3th: things most don't count ; an airco powered by solar panel is not green like they make you believe , it still produces much heated air . 1->Hotter air can hold more H²O vapor and that is also a greenhouse gas !!! (focus on co² as greenhouse gas is a trick that makes their fake claim realistic) 2->Than by claiming it's green energy and free (after your investment) many people will start using more energy during summer , why not have airco in every room have an extra fridge during summer etc , because the energy is free and green. 4th: The wires , since more ppl have to use electricity the wires will produce more heat and those are spread over the entire globe . where during winter solar panels don't give any power all electricity has to be delivered from away where your burner heater is local and has less energy loss since during winter most will be produced by gas turbines. 5th every ev is an airco powered by (bad) electricity , if you used a drill for 30 min you know how hot an electric engine also can become, second the battery has to be cooled or heated 24/7 , yes even when standing idle !!! But all of this is only about 10% of the drive behind global warming ! So let's talk about the biggest Starting with war www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature don't think i need to say what happend between 1940-1945 or 1955 -1975 next up population , and you're right about industry and food but that is both driven by population www.newsecuritybeat.org/2014/06/planet-sustain-mankinds-growing-numbers-depends/ combine those all togetter and than you have a model that supports the reality . because the carbone footprint does not do that!! we use filters for cars since 2000 and are already investing in solar panels for years still 2023 had a global temp. raise of 20% ( 1 of the highest) But every country wants to keep growing it's population and industrie !! It's like riding a bike and always want to go faster not calculating we get tierd and that our legs have a limit . and to end on a positive :d:d ISOLATION : since that is a way to reduce our energy use (as well during summer it stays cooler as winter that you have to heat less)

[@joseCalderon1976]

My biggest problem with new EV vehicles in the US (and even the regular new cars) is that they are WAY TO EXPENSIVE! I want to see a reliable small EV here in the US for like $15k out the door. I'm not buying something more expensive new EV or regular car for more than that. I don't want car mortgage! Period. Thanks for the video.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Agree entirely

[@changinglive7]

Agreed, if a solution is not affordable then it is not a solution.

[@sh-hg4eg]

They want to price you out of driving, just as they want to price you out of eating meat. They discuss this stuff openly.

[@MMM18092]

Where I live, politicians have changed the rules of the game so even a 50% higher purchase price for the EV is offset by lower ownership costs because driving an ICE vehicle is so expensive. EVs also have extremely low depreciation here for the same reason. It might not help climate change but it sure has improved the air quality in my city.

[@wynder1472]

@@MMM18092 the "depreciation" of every EV is built in: the price of a replacement battery will make these cars the first "disposable" cars in history (well, there was the YUGO...). Beginning soon (real soon...), these EVs will start to fill salvage yards the world over, as soon as the current (and likely only) owner sees a quote for battery replacement. Think of it: how many people replace the ENGINES on their hydrocarbon-fueled vehicles, and after just 5-7 years? EVs (coal-fired) cars are a joke. No, they're a SCAM perpetrated on soft-minded, ignorant owners steeped in guilt but short on brains.

[@AncientTexan]

You did an excellent job ... as an extractive metallurgist I have some expertise on supply chain issues ....so I am a real scientist/engineer and I don't think I could do as good a job as you have done in looking at all the issues. I am 99% on board with everything you said. We are at the beginning of a long journey without a good map and we are acting like we have all the answers ... great job in pointing out the hypocrisy in lots of the environmental crowd.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@paritoshdaurwal9484]

Bravo

[@pilotko5899]

I agree it was a god job..but u forgot to mention a few very importants variables: such as use of EV's batteeies as a energy storage to balance between weather dependend sources in cooperation of nuclear as base, Even if we use electricity from 80% of fossil, using EVs will reduce its use. Just because of huge difference between efficiency of petrol powered car (25%) and elec.powered EV (90%)..and yes, even with 10-15% of loses for electricity transport and battery charge.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@pilotko5899 There are no batteries big/powerful enough to make up the shortfall of energy from renewables or gas if there is no nuclear. Sorry.

[@barrydulson4489]

Well said as a nation we need to get on board together to make that difference

[@sebastiaanfraikin9360]

I just bought and drive a hybrid car (not a plug in) which has superb fuel economy and ticks all the boxes for me. regenerative braking (less wear on the brake pads and discs) using the electric motor to accelerate from a standstill and engaging the engine when needed. No hassle of charging with a cable from a public charger which is either occupied or malfunctioning, no lugging around a heavy battery. Just drive up to a regular petrol pump and be ready in a minute. Love it! This is the way :) I did my homework before buying and steered well clear of EVs which the government tends to shove down everyone's throat. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I know some people who are forced to choose an EV as a company car (policy) and thus are faced with range anxiety and having to install a charger in their home. The sad thing is that the company makes the decision to have their fleet fully EV (possibly forced by the government) and the employees, even the sensible ones, don't have a choice.

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

One thing about the production of the electric automobile is something that is hardly ever mentioned and that is tree destruction. An electric car battery is classed as a Hazardous Material and the battery manufacturer must meet Department of Transport regulations. The usual method is to pack the battery in a wooden crate lined with expanded polypropylene foam to prevent the battery from moving during transport. To make more money EV manufacturers are going for the large EV which means larger boxes have to be made, some the size of two-door refrigerators and larger, and because of the expected increase in EVs, they have to produce hundreds of millions of large wooden boxes. Just how many trees are cut down to produce the boxes is unknown but the number would be in the 10s of millions.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Good point

[@dzcav3]

I almost never comment YT videos, but this one one of the best I have ever seen: factual, logical, and non-political. You covered a wide range of material and wove it together in a concise, understandable way. Too many people have tunnel vision and only look at one part of the elephant, but you showed the whole beast. Perhaps one thing you could have added would be the comparison between EV and combustion initial carbon footprints and the breakeven mileage of carbon output, but that requires assumptions about the carbon output of the particular electrical source of the electricity.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Wow, thanks dzcav3. You're right, I could have gone gone into EV vs combustion initial carbon footprints, but fortunately Volvo has already done it for me, and with complete transparency and basis for comparison.

[@tonywilson4713]

@@TheCarGuysTV There's a tragedy in this video. You're absolutely right on most key points and totally off the planet wrong on others. You admitted at the start your not an expert and then proceeded to tell the world to "FK-OFF I'm keeping my collection of cars." - that's so stupid. Your right on most points. I'm an engineer and can explain this stuff better than you ever will. Just stop presenting Bjorn Lomborg (or anyone like him) as if he (or they) knows anything. Him and his FKING economics - just FK-OFF. People really are over that crap. People don't care squat about you and your FK-ING cars. They do care about having a future and are over the economic arguments. There was a great line yelled from the audience at an economist once: "You can't eat an iPad asshole" And don't call me some sort of greenie. That pack of clowns have been just as ridiculous and selfish and arrogant and you Lomborg and others. I really don't give a damn about your cars. And don't spout off about draconian laws you sound like one of those damn American Libertarians howling about their guns. You're right there's more pollution in making ANY NEW CAR than what your damn Ferarri will produce in 20+ years. *BUT ITS NOT ABOUT YOU* its about what we can do. Your right about China, America and Australia (where I'm from). I'd love to see us transition, but people like you wont shut up and get out of the road. And by that I mean the selfish clowns on *BOTH* sides. The selfish greenies can STFU and the selfish coal barons can STFU and get out of the road. This utter FKING garbage that its too big to deal with. IF ITS TOO BIG FOR YOU THEN SHUT UP. If you can't help fix the problem then go wash your car, take a drive, whatever - JUST GET OUT OF THE ROAD. As an engineer its INFURIATING to be told by ignorant economists, business people and howling tree huggers what can't be done. All of you JUST SHUT THE FK-UP and get out of the road and let us do our jobs.

[@sirfer6969]

Yeah I clicked on this thinking I'd be hating, but this piece did a good analysis

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@TheCarGuysTV Lucky you didn't check the latest Tesla environmental report (they produce this frequently!) Their corroborated data shows a cut of of 6,500 miles. No, I didn't miss any zeros, Six thousand five hundred miles to offset the carbon footprint. After that, it's all winning. . Nice try.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Enjoy your perfect smug life, Teslaboy. See you in the future.

[@wbr474]

It's not cars hurting our environment it's massive deforestation. We need to come up with a better, more earth friendly, AFFORDABLE building material. I agree with wood farms that's ok but deforestation of the massive natural forests we have, is basically killing the earth's lungs. There's nothing wrong with going into a healthy forest and clearing out the dead fall and dead standing that's just smart forest management.

[@SopronGuy]

Your lack of understanding of the issue is breath-taking! 1) Deforestation occurs mostly in the tropics to clear arable land, while your building material comes almost exclusively from sustainably managed temperate forests. 2) Wood used in buildings is actually a very significant carbon sink, trapping atmospheric carbon for many years, as opposed to just a few years if left to decompose naturally. Certifiably sustainable wood and wood products actually have a huge _negative_ carbon footprint.

[@wbr474]

@SopronGuy Exactly, what you just said proved my point. Yes, most deforestation does occur in the tropics. Mostly in the amazon rainforest where the majority of the lungs of our planet exist. It's causes erosion, soil nutrients to go into the waterways which harms the equatic life let alone defeats the purpose of sustainable farming where you don't have to use up your resources and move on to burn new areas to grow, therefore leaving a depleated landscape that sometimes never recovers especially in our lifetime. So if you dont like to breathe an oxygen rich atmosphere, I suppose your theory wouldn't be a problem. You obviously didn't read all of my comment, because I had a positive stance on sustainable tree farming.

[@ryanmullins2103]

It’s about control. These cars cause 10 times the harm of what we drive now. Look at what and how much it takes to make one battery.

[@peteandtessTube]

We bought a Chevy Bolt and Love it! But I hear you. I would like to think we’re helping the environment but I realize that any individual effort is minuscule. As far as how to live a modern lifestyle without destroying our environment, that’s the trillion dollar question. Is nuclear power safer now and nuclear fusion a potential reality? You certainly point that out as a feasible alternative to fossil fuels. You’ve done a tremendous job here shedding light on these topics. I apologize for any eco evangelists whose ego emissions are bigger than any reduction in greenhouse gases. Thanks again for a very informative and thoughtful video.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much for your kind comments, Pete & Tess. Much appreciated.

[@erniebertie3285]

I've always assumed this was more of a change in power. The oil rich countries controlling prices any time in suits a raise. We will be paying the same level of taxes regardless if its "green" or "dirty" fuels

[@georgeinjapan6583]

I guess it depends on what % of global warming is anthropogenic.

[@marythompson4654]

Go greed

[@NLM1000]

I own a Tesla. Love it and will probably stay an EV driver. I agree that the government should not force EV’s or subsidize them. In fact EV’s are not practical for many drivers. I can drive my wife’s gas powered car when my EV is not practical for a given trip.

[@ms-jl6dl]

EV's have their charm but they are not environmental saviours in any way. Their forced sales will damage the mobility of working class who buy cash and second hand.And to use one properly one needs house and the garage. Plus subsidising rich is moraly disgraceful. But if I could afford it,one of my cars would be EV.

[@domcomfermi609]

While a ICE car can be taken any where.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*Please stop saying "EV." It's just a car and you're just a driver. Anyways, most people only drive 40 miles a day.*

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

@@ms-jl6dl *No such thing as "forced sales" of electric cars. The automakers were already on their way to making electric cars when the government asked them what year to tell the public. It's a private-public partnership.*

[@thecasualatvguy617]

They pollute a ton more to make those batteries is the problem.

[@doveandlyre259]

Excellent you are not condemning anything just pointing out the reality of the situation. One of the easiest ways to make an immediate difference is stop cutting down trees and start replanting them. CO2 is their food and our oxygen.

[@robri87-hh4gr]

Putting Solar Panels on your roof is OK because there is plenty of open space around them. However, building massive Solar Panel Farms is another ball game. These farms create a tremendous amount of heat. Enough heat to change the weather pattern so scientist are saying. There are companies trying to encourage farmers to build Solar Panel Farms on their property instead of growing crops. Maybe we should be very careful putting these huge farms all over the place. They take up a lot of space, create heat, and are polluting to manufacture. A better option than Solar Panel Farms is Nuclear.

[@lepidoptera9337]

You have clearly never been around a large solar farm. They cause no appreciable heating whatsoever.

[@lepidoptera9337]

@@charlesrichter3854 Yep. The combination of solar and agriculture is a revolution in the making. It will greatly increase the value of a lot of otherwise mediocre farmland.

[@robri87-hh4gr]

@@lepidoptera9337 Yes. If you stand beside a solar panel farm it’s not hot. The heat is above the solar farm and the heat can travel with air movement. There is research by the University of Arizona to determine just how far heat from solar farms travels. Pavao-Zuckerman, lead author Greg Barron-Gafford of the University of Arizona School of Geography and Development, and their research colleagues recently published their findings in the journal Nature Scientific Reports in a paper titled "The Photovoltaic Heat Island Effect: Larger solar power plants increase local temperatures." Continuing studies by the group will focus on determining how far away from solar power plants the temperature increases reach, and on mitigating impact through such strategies as growing plants next to and under solar panels.

[@robri87-hh4gr]

@@charlesrichter3854 Yes. If you stand beside a solar panel farm it’s not hot. The heat is above the solar farm and the heat can travel with air movement. There is research by the University of Arizona to determine just how far heat from solar farms travels. Pavao-Zuckerman, lead author Greg Barron-Gafford of the University of Arizona School of Geography and Development, and their research colleagues recently published their findings in the journal Nature Scientific Reports in a paper titled "The Photovoltaic Heat Island Effect: Larger solar power plants increase local temperatures." Continuing studies by the group will focus on determining how far away from solar power plants the temperature increases reach, and on mitigating impact through such strategies as growing plants next to and under solar panels.

[@pamnuman1619]

Excellent. And the UK expects that in 12 months people will be paying up to 4 thousnad pounds a year more for energy. The greens are going to make rich people richer, poor people poorer and manufacturing EVs, wind turbines and solar panals are going to increase greenhouse emissions like we`ve never seen before.

[@paxhumana2015]

Here is the thing, all forms of currency, as well as all of its related ilk, regardless of their name, form, function, way. and shape, are all artificially constructs that have all been given artificial values by the Luciferian globalist elite. When those things are eliminated, then humanity becomes more equal.

[@Hjominbonrun]

Government here in the UK was pushing Diesels in early 2000's. All of a sudden, emissions is killing the market.

[@JustQzen]

Same thing in Sweden. The government was pushing the biogas movement forward. Saab (A Swedish car manufacturer) was gladly jumping through the governments hoops and created several cars that run on biogas. A couple of thousand people in Sweden was happy owners of their biogas powered Saabs until the government flipped and said "No this is bad for the environment, we dont want Saab to produce these cars anymore." Basically fucking over Saab and the Saab owners.

[@giacomoneri1782]

@@JustQzen reading through the lines, it looks they're just trying to sell more new cars by outlawing old ones. Meanwhile Russia is going back to Soviet standards, and i feel a strong urge to learn Russian

[@richardcranium3417]

It’s all government make believe including “manmadeglobalwarmingglobalcoolingclimatechange.” Notice how they dropped the “man made” part?!? Create a “crisis”. Sell a “crisis”. Profit from said “crisis.” Rinse repeat. And people never learn or remember. How’s the ozone doing? I thought it blocked the terrible heating killer rays from the sun……had to go to clothes ruining deodorant to “save the ozone.” Turns out the ozone didn’t need to be saved. It does fine on its own regardless of what we do. Just like Yellowstone park. It’s being touted as “never seen before, never happened before, won’t ever see it again, unprecedented, once in a life time” flooding. Uh huh. If we control the planet I can’t wait to see them steering hurricanes this summer to avoid hitting any countries.

[@JustQzen]

@@richardcranium3417 The ozone has the ability to repair itself yes. And after we stopped using the Freon or CFCs fridges we saw a massive drop in ozone killing gases. But I understand what you are saying and I totally agree. They are just trying to make us buy the next new planet saving thing. Two of the biggest contributors to microplastics is textiles and tire wear. Not once person has ever spoken up about some planet saving tires or "stop washing your clothes" but we cant have plastic straws in restaurants North America or Europre because people in South America and Asia dont have proper waste management.

[@dallysinghson5569]

It wasn't just Saab.... Volvo too.

[@eondrache7786]

Something Id like to see happen is more places that will do conversions to ev. Im running my car into the ground on its life. It is a 2010 Lancer with 253,000 miles/407,000km. I want to run it until the engine inevitably dies and needs replaced. And when that happens I rather go to an electric motor and fully convert it. I don't like all the issues with modern cars. Atm if I were to have a tesla it could take months to get a new bumper or something. My car I call the local warehouse and they have it in 2 days then its a 30 min drive. This way I also get to minimize my footprint (Though Im not doing it for the environment). At this point no one would even buy my car despite the great condition the body is in because of the miles on it. This way Im not throwing an old car away or making a new one. Plus, lancers look cooler than teslas imo. I think if we are to focus on cars we should focus on a few things. Cites first. Dense areas like Chicago, London, New York will benefit a lot from fewer cars. You get that immediate air quality locally. These places need to invest on better public transportation. Make it EV busses or whatnot. I think that would help the most in terms of cars. I fully agree we need to focus on nuclear energy. It gets a bad rap because of a few bad meltdowns. But even those meltdowns killed fewer people than what wind blades have just from people falling off them during installs. Finally. Something I never see get brought up is tires. EVs go through tires a lot faster than ICE cars. We already have landfills up to the brim of tires. If everyone switches that problem gets substantially worse.

[@scrapmanindustries]

They have large battery powered bus fleets already. Most of em can’t get the power needed to charge them so the charging stations are powered by big diesel generators. Ironic isn’t it.

[@picobyte]

Electric cars are nice as second car for short trips. Their batteries just can't compete with the energy density, speed of fuel refilling and transporting of fuel vs electricity.

[@cmdreffietrinket]

I once took 50 of the UK’s largest Farmers, to one of the UK’s largest power stations that was at the time (10years ago), converting from coal to renewable fuels to power its furnaces. The idea was that this Generator would buy suitable fuel crops from the Farmers who would start to grow suitable crops on their sub standard, non-producing, or set-aside land, and sell directly to the Generator. All sounded just great. Sadly, the Generator instead chose to build a deforestation plant in the USA, chop the tops off all the mountains in Virginia, process all the trees into pellets, then ship them across the Atlantic to the UK in ships that produce more pollution than all the cars in the UK put together. Yea for the stupidity of our species.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Good lord, that is idiotic…

[@phillyunrau4736]

.... WIND FARMs are Weapons of Mass destruction WMD and causing WEATHER WARFARE putting ELECTRICITY into the Atmosphere and Global warming is a scam job fr the NWO gang Zionists etc flatearth101 is real and Canada and USA are Corporations of Rome btw and

[@tempest411]

Yeah, something that stupid fits Virginia to a 'T'...

[@kevinireland8020]

Sounds more like West Virginias coal extraction strategy.

[@slowride1006]

It's kinda funny you mentioned that. There was a study done about something like this. The manufacturing of Toyota Prius is substantially more harmful to the environment than buying and driving a Ford F-150. If people take better care of their vehicles as well as they should. Keeping more than half a tank of gas in their vehicles. This causes gunk to get into the fuel line and clogs the fuel filter and prevents cleaner fuel and requires more fuel to get the same performance. The longer we hold to and properly maintain our current vehicles, reducing the number of vehicles to be manufactured. We need to go back to the when things were made to last.

[@tomasviane3844]

At work (in Belgium) we had a survey about our mode of transport. All the questions came down to 2 modes: public transport and electric bicycles... no talk about cars. This seems to be what they have in mind.

[@petesig93]

For sure, these are the two premium choices. However, for the many situations where these are not feasible (here in Australia that is MANY uses) the EV is far better than an ICE vehicle, especially if we can source electric power from renewables instead of coal.

[@gvibes69]

@@petesig93 Really ??? And the fact that you gonna create alot off scrapyard because a EV after 10 years max is garbage? The batteries dont have a big life and is more expensive buying new batteries than buying a new EV !!!!! Petrol cars can have 3-40 years if well mantained !

[@petesig93]

@@gvibes69 do some more research. One guy recently with his Tesla here in Australia had 400,000 km in a couple of years (he runs it as an Uber) with barely $3,000 of maintenance cost in that time. He finally had the battery replaced at 635,000 km. And this sort of experience is not at all uncommon. How long do you reckon your ICE car will last without a new engine or transmission?

[@garthhancock3373]

@@petesig93 You don't need to replace an engine or a transmission if you actually take care of maintaining it, versus running it into the ground.

[@MarksTournaments]

@@garthhancock3373not true, stuff breaks

[@WJCTechyman]

In my area of Ontario, Canada, I live about an hour from the second largest nuclear power station on the planet: Bruce Nuclear Generating Station. It's been running longer than I have been alive and there are many like it all over the planet, both in official Canadian made ones and clone systems in places like India. It is among, if not the safest reactor design on the planet and is incredibly versatile on what kind of fuel you can use in it. I guess there isn't anything like CANDU attitude and design.

[@DamoDGCUK]

When you are depending on public chargers and when you are using 90 miles range to drive 25miles journey, like I was for 8 months my self, I would say no to EVs.

[@daveedson8607]

Thank you for your presentation of the facts regarding energy and EV's. I purchased a Bolt over a year ago because I got a great deal on it, the lack of regular maintenance, the reliability, the cost of gas and regular maintenance, and it fit my needs. I've actually been told by most of my relatives that they would NEVER buy an EV, and they assume I've been brainwashed by treehuggers. I was told I was the reason gas prices are so high and accused of being an elitist because they could not afford an EV. I explained I bought it because it was economical to do so. I previously owned 3 hybrids which was my major influence in purchasing the EV. It is amazing, I also love ICE vehicles and am a self-proclaimed car nut.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

There’s nothing wrong with buying an EV provided you are doing it with your eyes open and don’t use it as a pious platform.

[@glennchambers8546]

P,

[@glennchambers8546]

@@TheCarGuysTV l0i

[@theforce5191]

Wow, no offense but you're surrounded by weak minded individuals. I stay away from family who's been toxic in the past or if they have a victim mentality. Good luck out there.

[@B_Machine]

Great job walking your own path! There's so much stigma around "treehuggers." It's unfortunate.

[@RussianBot382]

It’s nice to see this analysis, being pro nuclear is a serious positive takeaway. People who are anti nuclear have no shot of moving away from coal

[@oystla]

So…. While Nuclear had not seen much Growth in TWH produced the last decade, solar and Wind had had an Extreme growth and are now as big as Nuclear, from a joke 10 years ago😉

[@slavenarkaimovski3897]

KZbin TROY REED,Their is such thing as the electric car that don't need to be recharged,and it was invented by the Troy Reed.The engine was electromagnetic engine,and car was working without battery,on free,and perpetual energy.So next time when someone say to you that electric cars are useless,then you ask them how much they are payed to lie.

[@brianforrester9670]

Natural gas is moving us away from Coal already.

[@treborheminway3814]

New nuclear tech burns the longest half life waste to produce by products that while still nasty, need only hundreds of years of safe containment, not many thousands, all while slashing the total stored volumes. Nuclear is very important to CC, and the new modular designs are much more cost effective.

[@sanders555]

Nuclear generates less revenue and it takes longer to recoup the investment. Without government support it isn't going to happen, and ours is bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry. Yay capitalism.

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

Ev owner here. (Kia ev6) All solid points. They should only be considered if you want a new car but cheap to use thanks to government discounts given out. (IF YOU CAN CHARGE AT HOME) Also range is bs. Its no where near what manufacturers say. And performance turns shit unless it's charged above 70%. Also range drops by half in the winter.

[@claudiutamas79]

9:02 Yes, you're finally half right: battery-powered cars, due to the way the batteries are made, are more polluting than fossil cars when they leave the factory gate. But guess what? In only 3 to 5 years, in total, they surpass fossils in being friendly to nature, even when the electricity is from only partially ecological sources. And a car is used for at least 10 years (by several owners). And battery technology is getting greener by the day, very, very fast. And less and less energy is produced from coal, and in the near future less and less from oil and gas. In Europe at least, fossil energy will be phased out in less than 20 years. In fact, the problem is not production, but storage, and here we are one step away from new technologies.

[@choddo]

I am not going to go full evangelist backlash (I own 3 EVs and I know what you mean about the soul of petrol cars) but the electricity generation argument needs to consider a few things. It’s getting cleaner all the time (UK is about 50% renewables and growing even without serious hydro or geothermal resources) and efficiency is a lot higher than an ICE so each kWh of gas burned still gets more miles than you get out of petrol, especially in that Lambo ;) You’re completely right that this can only be one part of the answer but there are a LOT of cars in the world and more every year. Also the temp changes prior to the industrial revolution pale into insignificance, not in magnitude (some were a lot bigger than 2 or 3 C) but in pace. Evolution and species migration could handle it.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Phew! Seriously though, I wonder that will happen if we lose the 25% of our gas that we get from Russia, then another of our nuclear power stations finally gets decommissioned in 2 years. And then there isn't a windy storm, like Eunice. And there are 2 million more EVs on the road. What then?

[@monk3yboy69]

@Chaddo I believe the correct figure is more likely 25% of UK electricity is from renewables. The government is claiming it is 39.9% as of February 2022, however I cannot find sources to back this up. And digging into their reports, you find many inconsistencies. So either way, we are NOWHERE near 50%.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@monk3yboy69 Depending on the wind and solar each day, they account for 20-40% of electricity during the day in the UK. Gas makes up the rest with a tiny bit of nuclear.

[@choddo]

@@monk3yboy69 tried to reply but think it's being deleted as I tried to edit twice and get an error. Maybe cos it had an external link. Good luck to all of us anyway, there are no easy answers.

[@GTJW22409]

What these guys fail to grasp is the renewable energy technology is just beginning, as time goes on the tech will get better and slowly replace more and more energy supplies. It's so simple..

[@mikeyb1453]

The part about driving cars in to the ground really hits for me... proud last owner of all my vehicles.. they just don't build umm like they used to..I prefer old junk

[@warrenpuckett4203]

My old polluter, if replaced by a EV would mean a lot of fuel would go into making that EV. That total fuel used to make the EV would run the old polluter for 10 more years. It also is a 18 year old 5,000lb SUV with 200,000 miles on it. It can be recycled to make another Belchfire I-6. But with one problem. I-6s are not made for SUVs anymore. They last too long. It is better to use a more expensive maypop before 200,000 miles turbo 4 banger. Also not rebuildable.

[@treecp9707]

I think this is a very good video that gives a complete understanding of electric vehicles and renewable energy. I myself fully support the growth and development of electric vehicles, but I still understand that they do not make full sense quite yet. I appreciate that this video was not completely hating on EVs and renewables, while also not acting like they are perfect and the answer to all our problems. It’s nice to watch something that is truthful and unbiased.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you for watching

[@ProjectSimRacing]

Absolutely everyone should see this video! Thank you for the information! 🙌

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@Tclack]

Thank you for the thorough treatment of this complex subject. My biggest nitpick however is the comment and indeed basically the section following that "There's no point in moving to EV if the electricity that you use is dirtier than petrol". Power plants can be modeled with the Rankine cycle, cars with the Otto cycle. The ability of these larger power plants to raise their highest temperatures at the steam turbine end of things (as well as recovering more energy from low pressure turbines) and the ability to reduce pressure in the condenser increases the energy yield making it far more efficient. This capability just isn't practical in cars. It gets difficult to model because there are indeed losses in transmission lines, but overall, it's more efficient than point sources (especially in the US with needlessly terrible efficiency standards). Even if all energy was produced from coal and gas, it should still yield lower emmissions overal. But it's not just coming from coal and gas. Also there are many companies, particularly in Germany that recycle lithium ion batteries as well as cleaner alternatives (sodium ion, ion air) TL;DR point sources are less efficient so power electric vehicles off electricity from gas and coal plants is a step in the right direction.

[@NiklasLarssonSeglarfan]

I hear what you're saying, but its actually not a relevant difference. Modern cars with internal combustion engines are actually almost as efficient as the average coal or gas plant, so when you factor in transmission losses and especially charging losses for the EV then the difference is negligible.

[@Tclack]

I can't say for sure if it's negligible or not. In the US grid, I've seen estimates of energy lost anywhere between 5-20%. This is of course built on our existing aging infrastructure which is planned to be overhauled now following the recent infrastructure and "inflation reduction" (really a climate) bills. I'm hopeful this will at the very least push those numbers towards the lower end of the range. I agree with many of the sentiments reflected in the video: nuclear isn't evil, driving a used gas vehicle is better than buying a new electric vehicle and transportation isn't the single largest contributer to GHG releases. It's still a good chunk however and certainly every bit of progress counts

[@NiklasLarssonSeglarfan]

@@Tclack Yeah, the grid might get an overhaul, but it will take decades and decades, and there will always be some transmission losses. But that is not a huge factor irregardless though.

[@mlauer]

I couldn't wait to move away from my neighbor. Their solar panels belched smoke day and night.

[@NiklasLarssonSeglarfan]

@@mlauer If you lived next to a mine or processing plants building the solar panels you wouldnt be joking about it...

[@watercooled8105]

Californian here, motor-head (US version) which includes “petrol” and battery. Love both; use both for different occasions. Are we still allowed to say both are “fun”? Going solar-CA power outages suck. Most of our politicians are (uh) lacking…common sense. I think most of us spend our time just trying to get through the day (month, year) and although interested, don’t consider the big picture. Great video-thank you-

[@RoniMogy]

Small minded person

[@watercooled8105]

@@RoniMogyGet used to it-there’s a whole planet full of us who could care less about virtue signaling or politics…

[@IanWhitehead65]

Excellent. All good points. Although, I think we need to consider if individual personal transport is really the wonderful thing you suggest. But that's a massive topic all on its own.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

It is

[@robinisathakur]

In the UK, that argument may fly because people are much more receptive to the environmental argument and mostly live by big cities with admittedly decent public transport. In a country like America it would not and drivers will not be bullied by government and activists energised by a Swedish teenager.

[@alleyoop5185]

They need to look into geoengineering which could be the main culprit of climate changes. Of course they won’t since the governments are the ones doing it,,

[@PeterCamberwick]

It is.

[@o_o8203]

What's really annoying about all of this is that _hybrid cars_ had/still have TONS of potential as transition vehicles if we're going to continue with individual car ownership. It's clear that the push for electric cars is just a way to prop up car manufacturers or some weird corpratist bs.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes

[@kardeplayer133]

It’s not about the environment or saving the earth. It’s about stopping your mobility and forcing you to become dependent upon them. Once your fully dependent, you become controllable and they can do whatever they want to you.

[@leonarddiiorio4337]

More ridiculous conspiricy theories. Governments need not pursue circuitous secret approaches in order to remove your rights. They need only do it, simply act directly as we have so recently seen with roe v wade. And you aren't totally dependent on gasoline and the has companies right now?

[@juanvaldez7279]

🤣😶‍🌫️🤡

[@specialed6357]

The Great Reset "You will own nothing" ~W.E.F.

[@rosshoenke8368]

I totally agree with all that's been stated. No one should be forced to convert to EV'S. However I have a friend that has 5 solar panels and two Tesla power walls plus the Tesla model 3. We live in Arizona which has an abundance of sunshine 🌞. But as mentioned the price of EV'S are too high. It'll be a long time before I could ever afford one. So I'll drive my old mustang and my old Chevy truck🙂

[@leonarddiiorio4337]

@@rosshoenke8368 all things considered, hanging on to a working icv rather than junking it is likely the best anti carbon producing thing you can do.

[@timz7815]

Great video, as a former nuclear submarine operator, Ch.E and energy enthusiast I mainly agree with your discussion. Specifically, if we want to shift to clean energy, we should build Nuclear and invest in Fusion research.

[@encinobalboa]

French nuke power plant program recycles waste which is a real problem in USA. Green dummies in France are opposed to nuke. Clean nuke combined with EV would make a difference.

[@jsanders100]

No thanks

[@encinobalboa]

@@jsanders100 You do realize that French air emissions are so low that she exports clean air to Germany on the prevailing winds?

[@jsanders100]

No, do you remember a place called Chernobyl? Have the French decommissioned any of these power stations yet?

[@timz7815]

@@jsanders100 you are not smart. Nuclear is the safest way to create energy statistically...deaths per unit energy is lowest. It's the cleanest. Chernobyl uses positive temp coefficient of reactivity liquid sodium moderated reactors. The west uses water with a negative coefficient. Russian stuff is not good. Modern installations will use micro reactors and use Thorium. In the future, we will use Fusion of light atoms, where the by product is water.

[@mingiasi]

i have 4 cars built in 1990's. will keep them running for years to come. i fundamentally refuse to buy anything above 2K. I can solve ANY issue those cars will have and for all the people going apessh** about fossil fuels etc.. they need to think how many new cars i DO NOT buy just because it rolled off the line and old one got boring or lease came up.

[@Ted...youtubee]

My diesel with ADBLUE greatly reduces pollution.. Getting 9.5L/100 for a large Ford suv 4wd is amazing

[@michaellinke6448]

I was curious about "dirty" electicity and put together a spreadsheet, using the CO2 per kWh for Electric generation methods, and the power source breakdown for each state. I compared a 120 MPGe Chevy Bolt against a 35 MPG Chevy Malibu. The only state in the US where the Electic Bolt produced more CO2 per mile was West Virginia, where the Electric car made 5% more CO2 than the gas car. Hawaii come close, at only 5% reduction in carbon per mile. NY/NJ, where I'm at, the electric vehicle is a 75% reduction. This was based on 2021 figures for electricity generation from the Nuclear Energy Institute , and will probably change over time. (Reposted cause I think the last comment got auto-modded because it included a url)

[@michaellinke6448]

The chances are, if you live in a state where nobody wants an electric car, you're probably already in a state whose electricity is dirty enough that conving you to buy an electric car won't make any serious environmental impact, or at least the CO2 benefit will be outweighed by polition inherent in the battery ecosystem. Where all the lefties who love EVs already live, there's a lot less coal, and significantly less fossil in general.

[@eddeis189]

You just simply explained, that only in one state out 52 and only 5 % more CO2 was emmited in West Virginia with an EV vs regular petrol car. Where i live in north Germany we are charging 100% renewables almost always and its clearly stated on the charger.Germany electricity's comes coal about 30% but you can choose where you wanna charge your car.So basically everything this KZbinr tries to fact it is obnoxious and stupid, hope this guy learns something 😂.and comments here are comming from ppl like in that movie "don't look up". 😅

[@TB-up4xi]

Something is wrong with your math an EV produces less CO2 even when charged 100% from coal fired power. Firstly I guess you only used the tailpipe emissions right? add another 50% for the exploration, extraction, refinement, transportation and storage of gas for the Chevy Malibu. The CO2 per kwh includes the full exploration to emissions cycle for the electricity generation method. Apples v Oranges as they say. Let's get to that in a minute. The 2023 Chevy Malibu has an official average CO2 emissions rate of 292 grams per mile from the tailpipe. Add the rest of the fuel cycle this is 438g. There is no state in the US where a 120 Mpge EV produces more CO2 than than a Malibu. Even in West Virginia at 1.95 pounds (884g) per kWh = 252g per mi v 438g for the Malibu.

[@EGH666]

@@eddeis189 i live in quebec where pretty much 100% of our electricity comes from hydro dams. i'll take my electric car. I actually have a hybrid right now. last 30 liter fill up i did 1600km. right now i have 720km and i just lost the first notch on my gas gauge. it costs less than 1$ to charge for 30km (6 to 9 cents per kwh).

[@gregcollins3404]

I maintain that an EV uses less electricity than a gas car uses to pump, refine, transport and sell the oil it uses.

[@brucecoleman7412]

Something that no one talks about and I think you missed. The tons of ore of lithium and cobalt that must be mined just to make one EV battery. The machinery required operates on diesel fuel. Most is mined in countries that require no DEF or catalytic converters. Even if it were mined in the US, off-road equipment doesn’t have the emissions devices that on-road vehicles do. It would probably take years for a fuel efficient vehicle to pollute as much as it took just to produce an EV battery. Then what do you do with it when it’s used up?

[@erikf790]

New batteries, like teslas lfp batteries do not require cobalt, and the lithium is almost entirely sourced from the us and Australia, not through mining, but through evaporative extraction that uses pills of water to leech the lithium from the soil.

[@Luka_3D]

You don't require tons of lithium for a lithium-ion battery. Also, do you ever make the same comparison for ICE cars? You don't just create pollution by buring the fuel in your car. If we want to figure out how much pollution your car creates, we need to figure out how much pollution a single barrel of diesel or gasoline produces before it even reaches your tank. Oil refineries are some of the biggest pollutants in the wrold. Ships transporting raw oil usually burn bunker fuel which is the dirtiest, cheapest fuel imaginable. It's so bad that some ports don't even allow them to burn it while they are docked. Pump jacks run on electricity which can either be green or produced by burining coal. Offshore pumps have diesel generators which create their own pollution. The pumps themselves also have problems because sometimes they spill oil into the ocean, killing a huge amount of marine life. The transportation of said oil on land or roads either requires electricity or even more diesel.

[@investoroncoke]

@@Luka_3Dyou do require tonnes of Lithium ore to produce the Lithium Carbonate required for Batteries. The refining process is energy intensive also as you need LCE of purity greater than 99.9% so the batteries don’t explode. But don’t let facts get in your way

[@Luka_3D]

@@investoroncoke You bring up a good point. However, if we include the pollution created by the production of EVs, shouldn't we also include the pollution generated by the extraction and refinement of oil? These are highly energy intensive processes. The refineries themselves are one of the largest producers of pollution worldwide. Not to downplay battery production pollution but do we just always forget the huge amount of devastation that oil spills cause? Like yeah, strip mining for lithium is bad but is the alternative not worse?

[@danmichael7335]

The damage done by mining is permanent.

[@swhbpocl]

So many rights in this video! If we focus on cars, gradually going EV is still my conviction! But first run the existing car fleet to end of life. Under no circumstances keep ICE artificially clean by creating synthethic fuels. And forget hydrogen, also a synthetic fuel (on earth) with huge energy input to create, store and distribute. Batteries are becoming cheaper, more long lasting and less “rare material” demanding as we speak. And the “remote tail pipe” narrative have been proven wrong over and over again. Well, it is still remote in many good ways as the gas/oil/coal plants can have their emissions per unit energy better cleaned and, the big plants have an incredible good efficiency that can never be matched in a road vehicle. Large Ships should however run directly on fuel, at least until small reactors becomes viable in commercial use.

[@brad5426]

Subscribed. I'm from the UK and I don't like green evanglists protest Nuclear power yet promote solar and wind. Here we have little land available we can't afford to pave the UK over in wind and solar farms, we'll lose so much natural beauty. Now we have Nuclear Power plants that can densely do what thousands of wind turbines can do in a mere fraction of the space, its a no brainer which one to pick. The ultimate grace for wildlife and land preservation is via choosing Nuclear.

[@MrBeep2010]

Thank the lord, someone who is actually telling the truth! I am an electrical engineer and have been saying all of the points raised about EVs for the past 15 years and had allot of abuse for saying it. As a country we only have 3% wiggle room in the national grid, our backbone of the UK can not support the loading caused by EVs especially whilst closing power stations such as Eggbrough. Ferrybridge was supposed to running on biomass, it has only done about a week in total on it, the rest is from burning the council's rubbish and Biffa. The biomass comes from Canada and is shipped to the UK and then delivered by diesel trains to the power station, how green is that?

[@realalsenor]

Good thing we have Elon Musk and won't have to count on your "electrical engineer" mind to save our species! What have YOU contributed to our problems so far?

[@MrBeep2010]

@@realalsenor a hell of a lot more than most people (probably yourself) being an "electrical engineer" the clue is in the title, helping large blue chip companies reduce their carbon footprint, local authorities and homeowners meet net zero.

[@MrBeep2010]

@@skenmir me too!

[@johanemmenes9236]

@@realalsenor save our species" alright Greta

[@quatrecheeze]

We have loads of spare capacity most of the time. The peak grid use time isn't the time for most people to be charging their cars

[@mohamedbanoon9475]

Last time I checked, nuclear power was the cleanest form of energy. Even cleaner than solar and wind. Here in the US, most big cities require a nuclear power plant.

[@richardcoram1562]

The Dirty part of nuclear power is the waste, and theres tons of that waste buried deep in mountains and abandoned mines that are stored in aging compromised containers. This waste is active for up to 3 million years, so you might think it's a clean source of energy until an earthquake brings down that mountain storage facility . Hopefully before we go to full nuclear power we need a waste dump on Mars, rather than man caves. AI ROBOTS could maintain the waste dumps.

[@gundammakerworldbreaker6133]

@@johndanson4427 It still is. shut up about the bs.

[@JBinFL]

@@johndanson4427 So an accident caused by antiquated, crappy engineering, and another caused by a company not responding to warnings that its facility had an Achilles heel in the event of an edge incident and "500" others with no real impact. Emotion isn't the way out of our problem.

[@TheSilverShadow17]

@@johndanson4427 The technology that maintains and regulates nuclear reactors is improving massively every passing year. Compared to the last several decades a modern day reactor is thousands of times less likely to meltdown than an older one built in let's say the 50s and 60s. The best solution for the entire planet is going Nuclear, and nature has done proved it over 2 million years ago

[@TheSilverShadow17]

@@JBinFL Some of the things people believe about Nuclear energy is more often than not false info, but when you look at the actual statistics, the chance of death from Nuclear power is at at extremely low 0.00007% therefore proving how safe it is compared to wind solar and coal power. It's our all out best option for an energy resource period. And that it would take over 60 gigatons of coal just to match the energy output of a Nuclear reactor.

[@frozenbacon]

I want EVs to replace gas gas just so I dont have to smell gas fumes in my city. Air quality does have a lot of impact on health

[@marciacunningham5877]

Thank you for exposing the truth! Michael

[@Malito935]

This was great. We get warned here in Australia to not run our air conditioning to high in summer as the grids can’t handle it and crashes. How the hell is everyone going to charge all these cars. Especially in summer. This is going to be hilarious 😂

[@TheCarGuysTV]

It sure is

[@gpsfinancial6988]

Why don't you use solar to run the AC?

[@trevorsoh2130]

Australia has such low EV numbers it will probably have negligible impact. But batteries will probably be part of the answer in the future. Most states are preparing for large ev uptake in the coming years. Almost all states have been experimenting with utility scale and micro scale inner suburban battery storage ever since the long term success of the Tesla big battery in SA - which has stabilised the grid, prevented blackouts and saves the govt hundreds of millions of dollars (paid itself off years ago). Teslas already using VPP virtual power plant tech to link all power wall (consumer batteries) to provide a virtual utility scale battery in one state of the US. It’s been pretty successful so far.

[@Just_Chuck_It]

This is because the governments pushing this nonsense literally think YOU are stupid. Let that sink in............

[@gpsfinancial6988]

@Bobcat B EVs already run in winter in Canada. Canada is already quite well set up with even traditional cars with engine warmers and in car heating running off the electrical network when parked in the garage.

[@martinbooker213]

Hi I moved to Spain in 2005 from the UK I don't know much about electricity but my house in the UK had an 11kw electric shower just to mention one item! When I moved and found that the total incoming electricity for my house in Spain which I might add is bigger and has a pool to run was 3.3kw YES 3.3kw we have to be a bit more thoughtful as not to switch everything we own on at the same time and I'm not talking about having the TV on when we are cooking!!! It's things like when I'm welding my significant other is cooking and the pool is on then yes it will trip but why the hell is all that power being put into every house in the UK when it's not needed! It's that same old if it's there people will use it. We probably Havant tripped the electric for ten years now. I know I have not mentioned cars once in this comment so I totally agree they are not the problem we are being told they are. Just my thoughts for what it's worth?

[@migueldacruz6640]

Very enlightning. Thank you for the video and all the research

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Glad it was helpful!

[@WalterL-gz5zs]

Should we do a rethink on installing Solar Farms and Wind Farms willy-nilly all over the place. In Australia there is strong opposition to building Solar and Wind Farms on wild habitat land. In the United States many places have banned the construction of Solar and Wind Farms. Elizabeth Weise from US TODAY reports that a nationwide analysis by US TODAY shows local governments are banning green energy faster than they’re building it. Nearly 375 counties in the US have essentially blocked the construction of new Wind Farms, and 116 counties have implemented bans on Solar Panel Farms. Also, the windiest and sunniest places in the US have rejected the construction of Wind and Solar Farms according to Sarah Mills, a professor of Urban planning at the University of Michigan, those sources must move to areas that are less efficient and more expensive.

[@Beastius24]

interesting review. To be honest there's a bit of caveat to this: nuclear energy is not fossil fuel. also, slave labour is not unique to EVs. The cause for that in Congo is not tied to the products they produce but economic and cultural overall maturity. Whilst it is absolutely true that China and India are indeed massive polluters but it doesn't mean we should do nothing. (leading by example). Air pollution is also a factor and nuclear power is definitely cleaner than petrol burning.

[@billschmid5404]

The problem with nuclear is the waste, as it always has been. Not to mention the Chernobyl type incidences...

[@Beastius24]

@@billschmid5404 security is way better nowadays. As for getting rid of the used elements: it is a problem indeed but it is a good interim solution nonetheless

[@sebastiangeorge7714]

@@Beastius24 like Fukushima + Tschernobyl was under attack while running just some months ago

[@Beastius24]

@@sebastiangeorge7714 the technology used now is way better and in case of a war all bets are off anyway

[@gordonbos5447]

The point about China is that it has a massive amount of people and produces goods for probably even more than twice that amount of people. The lie consists of pointing to the manufacturer as the one that causes pollution while it is in fact the buyer/user of the product that should be held accountable. Another thing people like to do is `compensate` by subtracting non-emission energy from grey energy, but the reality of course is that when you subtract zero then the effect will be zero as well. The truth is that the only thing we succeeded in doing is make investors richer and it even looks like we managed to make it worse for the environment in the process.

[@AussieBono]

Great episode. I learned a lot. I agree with Bruce W, that our shallow thinking governments are too concerned about being re-elected than doing the right thing. Here in Australia, we have no nuclear power stations, but ironically Australia is a major exporter or uranium. People need to understand that nuclear is the way to go for green energy.

[@topfell8277]

I agree

[@danielbowers4008]

Am I correct that Australia exports lots of coal as well as Uranium ? I agree w/ you incredible vid. and very educational! Cheers from America!!

[@AussieBono]

@@danielbowers4008 yes, you are indeed correct. Australia is one of the largest exporters of uranium. Unfortunately Australia doesn't have any nuclear power plants, to take advantage of the abundant resource, we have here locally.

[@lomgshorts3]

Uranium is NOT the answer, Thorium is. Thorium is thought as a "waste product" when mining iron, copper, silver, gold, and lead. Thorium is tossed aside as a "waste material" and ignored for its great power generating potential. The molten salt reactor is the answer to the nuclear power generation problem as it cannot be a source of the "China Syndrome" problem in a high pressure uranium/plutonium reactor that produces waste that lasts thousands of years. Thorium "burns" in a low pressure environment, and if coolant is removed, a solid plug of floring salt melts and divides the critical mass into non critical vats that are very safe. Read up on the Thorium low pressure molten salt reactors right here on KZbin. You will wonder why we have not used this technology 45 to 50 years ago. Do the research yourself, instead of being the "not in my backyard" fools.

[@johnchristopherson6970]

They did a great job of scaring people away from nuclear in the 70's with 3 mile island ans a gain with Chernobyl.

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

The state of New South Wales in Australia intends to terminate the current $3,000 subsidy for electric cars in 2024. Ahead of the NSW state budget announcement on Tuesday, reports revealed Treasurer Daniel Mookhey is set to terminate the current $3,000 incentive for drivers who buy new electric vehicles and funnel the savings into building more base infrastructure. From January 1 next year, stamp duty will also be reintroduced for new EV purchases along with rebate removals, with the government forecasting $527 million in savings from the move, a large portion of which will then be invested into constructing charging stations in regional areas and for those without access to home charging like apartment dwellers and renters.

[@grahammutlow1612]

Good summary of what a lot of us know. However the bigger question is will trying to reduce the life giving trace again our atmosphere

[@78Outlaw]

Good video, as an affordable EV owner and classic car enthusiast I can appreciate the pros and cons and your point on ‘demonising’ drivers well made, air quality, consumption and GHG footprint constantly being confused in mainstream.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@litecoinawarenessphoenix34]

@@TheCarGuysTV If only honda had kept making those 45mpg CRXs well past the 80's..

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

@@TheCarGuysTV read some of the comments from the constructive posts. And revisit this matter. The world needs help in understanding what is possible. Political parties on both sides are struggling.

[@msimon6808]

@@stephenbrickwood1602 Water vapor, according to Greenhouse Gas Theory, is responsible for 3/4s of the warming. Funny how few know this.

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

@@msimon6808 sadly. When someone lights a match the forrest can burn down. 🔥 Funny? not so. Water vapour does hold the heat. But it needs the trigger of CO2 build up. What you say is part of the distraction, put out from a lot of businesses, that will be hit hard from CO2 reduction. I have heard serious business people say exactly the same, I can not believe how these intelligent and wealthy people can talk so much crap. Then I have to tell myself that I am the Civil Engineer and they only have business education. The ocean and clouds and rainfall have not changed for 10,000 years, since the last ice age. But something did change 🤔 🙄 thinking. I apologise for my sarcasm. We need everyone to know only the facts and not the distracting ideas.

[@triw117]

FYI I’m a few minutes into your video rn but I like the way you present info. No nonsense with a little bit of dry humor. It’s refreshing.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you.

[@AlbertZonneveld]

@@TheCarGuysTV Somehow you failed to mention that cobalt was used primarily by the fossile fuel industry so far. The human rights abuse and such were all started by fossile fuel companies needing cobalt to desulpherize their fuels. Battery makers are already reducing the amount of cobalt and Lithium in batteries An EV's uses about 25%-30% of the energy that a fossiel fuel car does. Even with 100% from fossiel fuel powerplants it goes only up to half. In the Netherlands we need only 15% extra electricity to power all cars electrically.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@AlbertZonneveld Hi Albert. I didn’t mention that because that’s not what the video was about. Did you not notice? It wasn’t the Big ICE Truth, was it?

[@MrRavenski23]

Superb video, great slides (which I have screened shot on my tablet). Any potician involved in decision making regarding climate change should watch your video, specially here in Canada, a country with a small population which only accounts for 1.5 % of the green house emissions globally, where ICE vehicles are demonised by politicians, we are at the forefront of carbon taxes, incentives to buy EV, we have a very cold climate in winter, so EV don't work so well then, we huge natural resources in oil and gaz, yet these resources are being stiffled by ignorant or cynical politicians. One additional point worth making is that fossil fuels are a very finite resource, only about 100 years left at the most globally, once they are gone, there is no more, no more for ever! we should keep using them whilst they are still available whilst developping green alternatives and these don't include EV.

[@alexd302]

I live in the USA and have a 2020 Tesla M3LR and a 2023 Model S Plaid. I charge at home 99% of the time. My monthly electricity costs for both my EVs amount to LESS than the cost of petrol for my 1 ride-on mower! During 4 years of ownership, I have had zero defects on either car and not 1 cent of maintenance cost. I have done 2 road-trips with my Tesla and it was absolutely no problem. More expensive than charging at home but still cheaper than gas prices. For me, the EV's weak point is long distance towing. Tow anything and your range cuts in half. I keep an old cheap F150 which I use to tow my boat over long distances. I come to Tesla after ownership of 5 consecutive S class Mercedes Benz's over a 35 year period. I have a collection of gas-powered classic cars to remind me of the olden days. My Model S Plaid is so quiet and so smooth and best of all is it's Jekyll and Hyde nature where I can take Grandma to church in sublime comfort or change a few settings and blow away a Koenigsegg Hypercar. They make a complete nonsense of even the fastest ICE cars. In the USA, renewables have already passed coal for electricity production. The fossil fuel component of electricity production will continue to decline. Don't give me the bs that my EV is being powered by fossil fuels (alone). Sit there in traffic and tell me you're just as happy to be surrounded by stinking, pollution spewing petrol/diesel cars!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Good for you