Hope you all enjoyed the latest addition to the C++ series! Let me know if you have any questions about maps below 👇 Also definitely check out Hostinger for all your web hosting needs, and use coupon code CHERNO for a discount: hostinger.com/cherno
@brandonmint007212 жыл бұрын
Please please make a video about named pipes
@ed75902 жыл бұрын
Please could you talk about dealing with hash collisions? In your vector video and others you did a great job explaining how they're implemented in memory. Something similar for maps and unordered_maps would be really helpful. Thanks for all the great videos!
@joachimfritscher56882 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on template metaprogramming? And as code review it would actually be nice to go over a library container such as vector and explain what is going on. Especially as a beginner /intermediate this feels like it's a whole other language
@rajagopal13732 жыл бұрын
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@oleholgerson34162 жыл бұрын
thanks Cherno, as always great content. Would be great if you could also talk about std::equal_to in the context of unordered maps and hash collision resolution etc. Especially what happens if hash collisions occur. Keep up the good work.
@crystalferrai2 жыл бұрын
15:20 A hash function is not required to return a unique hash. Two things with the same hash will be stored in the same bucket, which is inefficient for lookups, but it will function fine. The hash provides fast access to the appropriate bucket. The equality operator is what determines if a key actually matches. You should strive to make unique hashes for performance reasons, but hash collisions will not compromise the map. 26:50 -If two cities have the same population and that is all you are using for comparison, then they will appear in an arbitrary order but still appear next to each other in the map. Nothing is broken in this case. You just will not be able to rely on their order remaining consistent as the map changes.- This is incorrect. Not sure what I was thinking when I wrote it.
@raksipulikka2 жыл бұрын
Yup and in addition it's possible that different hashes end up in same bucket
@felipegutierrez34772 жыл бұрын
You can come up with a great hash function that minimizes the amount of collisions, but at the end of the day you can compromise a bit of speed when creating the hash map through linear probing or other methods (O(N)) to get perfect collision-less hash maps by sampling the next index until you are sure that you don't have collisions.
@Chakaramba2 жыл бұрын
As for now, it seems like youtube should give a platform for contributing into videos' drafts with deep fakes :3 Im pretty sure that we could bring all the educational stuff to a brand new level
@rhoynarr2 жыл бұрын
"26:50 If two cities have the same population and that is all you are using for comparison, then they will appear in an arbitrary order but still appear next to each other in the map. Nothing is broken in this case. You just will not be able to rely on their order remaining consistent as the map changes." you are wrong. in c++20 the population is used for the key, if it's equal between two objects the compiler will assume that you are referring to the same object.
@crystalferrai2 жыл бұрын
@@rhoynarr You are correct. I am not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that 6 months ago.
@SonicFan5352 жыл бұрын
21:01 - When using find(), you can avoid the second lookup required by at() by saving the iterator returned by find(). For example: if (const auto it = cities.find("Berlin"); it != cities.end()) { const CityRecord& berlinData = it->second; // ... } I recommend always doing this whenever you use find() to do a lookup. If you only need to know whether the element exists or not, you can use ".count(key) != 0" (or ".contains(key)" in C++20) instead.
@jacobm11902 жыл бұрын
I actually had this little mistake a couple times in my current project. Very cool tip.
@metal5712 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Worth noting also that your "it" is taking advantage of C++17 if-initializer syntax, so this isn't available before that language version
@DrShwynx2 жыл бұрын
I’ve personally always used .count() and then accessed with either [] operator or .at(). I didn’t know about .find()
@Gmitbotw2 жыл бұрын
Also, if you want to check wether or not a map contains a key but don't need to access its value, you can use std::unordered_map::contains(key), available in C++20
@quademasters2492 жыл бұрын
@@DrShwynx That works with vectors but not a map. "find" in a vector is a linear search. You could use for(auto& val : vector ) to iterate over the vector too for searching and just "break;" out of it. Find is useful if you want to use the iterator later on and not just finish up in the loop.
@AxElKo4402 жыл бұрын
Hey Cherno, I started watching you 5 years ago, while I was in my first year of college. I saw every video you made. I patiently rewrote line by line your sparky engine, but then I had so many school duties and I had to start working to pay for the college, so that I had to stop following you. Now 5 years later I'm back and ready to continue. I don't know what is so magical about working with OpenGL and graphics, but it's still my dream job to work with OpenGL. I tried many specialization like neural nets, hardware design in VHDL, motor control, image processing but nothing got me interested as OpenGL. Best part of college was C++ course, where I applied everything you taught me. Thank you so much for your content and god bless your family.
@arminbosten81592 жыл бұрын
Yes! This C++ series is truly a gold mine :D
@oj00242 жыл бұрын
The find + at pattern at 20:50 does twice the amount of necessary work, because find already returns a pointer to the data.
@CamdenVaughan2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cherno, would love a “productivity in c++” kind of video maybe going over keyboard shortcuts or ways to code more efficiently in visual studio or just in general
@msamkleaf99452 жыл бұрын
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@SaintMorning Жыл бұрын
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@jeffvenancius Жыл бұрын
Look out for CUA, it's awesome what you can do in basicaly ANY text editor.
@theglowpt3 Жыл бұрын
Vim. Keybindings. Full. Stop.
@MrCleverOnion Жыл бұрын
It's called vim homeboy
@milo200602 жыл бұрын
100/100 c++ videos from this playlist watched! Been very informative so thanks for this series!
@oj00242 жыл бұрын
One important thing to mention is that the std:: (unordered-)map/set containers are very slow, because they need to guarantee pointer stability and abi breaks hinder compiler vendors from improving them. You can get speedups of sometimes up to 5x by just using a different hash map, e.g. absl::flat_hash_map or tsl::robin_map.
@marcspecter2 жыл бұрын
can you link to some reliable anaysis/commentary on this?
@theKStocky2 жыл бұрын
I will counter this by saying. This does not matter unless it is showing up in performance captures as a problem. Use the standard library liberally and as much as you can. It is fantastic and should be the first tool that you reach for. And if you happen to notice slow downs and find that something in the standard library is actually the issue, then start to look elsewhere for replacements. As a software engineer, it is the API and guarantees that that API gives that matter most. Software has to be correct before it can be fast. And if you can just swap something out later for something that has a faster implementation, but the same API then it's probably easier to just use the standard library before reaching beyond it when it might be a non-issue anyway.
@ShivamJha002 жыл бұрын
@@theKStocky true
@SheelByTorn2 жыл бұрын
Define slow here, what is slow are you talking about? Insertion? Appending? Search? deletion? Be specific since all data structures has their pro's and cons.
@oj00242 жыл бұрын
@@marcspecter Search for Martin Ankerl's Hashmaps Benchmarks for a recent (2019) thorough hash table benchmark
@gaureshbhati84842 жыл бұрын
Expecting more content in this C++ series. This series is a gem. 🔥
@brainloading55432 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is
@garba12042 жыл бұрын
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@londonerwalks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos Cherno. I only just stumbled across your channel and your videos have been a really useful recap for my rusty C++ skills from over a decade ago!
@leeroyjenkns51822 жыл бұрын
Never would've thought I'd learn basic c++ in two weeks knowing just js but here we are. This series is wild.
@ykjo40102 жыл бұрын
Finally a C++ series tutorial with an old style thumbnail!
@wintiepower72252 жыл бұрын
Great video! A follow up video about std::set in which you compare the different sets to the different maps would be awesome! Keep it up!
@wintiepower72252 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps about the container adaptors like stack, queue and priority_queue
@bunpasi2 жыл бұрын
15:51 What you're trying to do is called aggregate initialization. It requires you to also use curly brackets. Unfortunately you'll need to use push_back instead of emplace_back because the parameters aren't passed through, but the object is first created and then passed through. Thanks for the great content. Keep them coming!!
@SHSULeadTrumpet2 жыл бұрын
I love the honesty of how you handled the odditites in the industry, I love that you explain multiple ways of doing something even if there is a less conventional way as a just in case, I love that you actually explain how to read the error messages and output errors and most of all I love your accent. Thank you so much for being clear and connecting dots.
@ohwow20742 жыл бұрын
Oh nice. Finally a video for the C++ series. I got so excited when I saw the notification.
@beboba2498 Жыл бұрын
at 21:18 you're searching for element twice, at "find" call and at "at" call The better way would be to get an iterator of "find" and then use iterator instead of "at" call For unordered_map it might be not that important but it is for a map
@TheMR-7772 жыл бұрын
15:48 Hey TheCherno, it can be solved by passing the arguments as "initializer list-looking" syntax, as emplace_back is requiring a single Object. So, the arguments have to be a single object. They can be: .emplace_back(CityRecord{ "CityName", 50000, 70, 70}); Or just, .emplace_back({ "CityName", 50000, 70, 70}); By the way, I'm a long-term TheCherno follower, and it's the first time I suggested something to my mentor :)
@vtgordo5 ай бұрын
This was big for me. I am still at 12 minutes into video, and tried to compile. Compiler said nope. Something about no overloaded function had that many parameters. ChatGPT showed me how to build constructors for my struct (messy). This cleaned that right up!
@TheMR-7775 ай бұрын
@@vtgordo It's a pleasure to know :)
@adrianwild9573 ай бұрын
That was actually perfect for a beginner. Thank you!
@shreyadalvi15322 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much to put more content in this series. Waiting for more videos on data structures
@ycombinator7652 жыл бұрын
💯 completed. Thank You. Its a historic moment.
@postdisc0 Жыл бұрын
wow, i learned about at() throwing in the morning getting to work, and the same day I actually used this knowledge in my work process! so cool, never payed attention to that before
@6px2 жыл бұрын
100th video in the playlist!🔥
@ucheachay58852 жыл бұрын
Yes !!!, Thanks so much for these. Please more on c++ data structures
@Wwise_sounds2 жыл бұрын
I was almost two weeks behind on my assigment. this helped me to finally get the courage and finish it. thanks!
@tljstewart2 жыл бұрын
Gold, I'd expect nothing less. Thanks Cherno
@luisfernando34052 жыл бұрын
Guy, i'm from Brazil, english not is my native language, but i need to say that this channel is my favorite font to learn and apply your content; Thank you for this video, i very like to be here. 🎯🚀
@joshdoesthings78362 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I was just doing a Clash of Code on CodingGame yesterday and asking a guy about these! Now, you're posting a video on them: A nice coincidence!
@avimalka53622 жыл бұрын
Like your videos a lot, hope to see more of these! I will be nice if you could have videos about C++20 features. P.S You could have mention that c++20 has contains() for maps.
@MLBB_CHILL2 жыл бұрын
100th video of the c++ series. Well done Yan!!
@gaiashkenazy2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Continue this series I love it!!!
@Phroggster2 жыл бұрын
STL error/warning messages are so much fun to try and comprehend. At least C# custom hashing is wickedly easy to implement, albeit a bit challenging to implement "correctly" (with uniformly-distributed hash codes). All of this discussion about std::map, and you just lit the light bulb for a problem that I was dealing with. Thanks Cherno!
@Phroggster2 жыл бұрын
For the next episode, don't forget to compare a std::map to a constexpr std::vector, because compilers don't already do enough work on our behalf.
@YANZH-p2o Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the video of the performance between these maps!!!🤩
@gohli84572 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video for C++ learner!
@tamp1o2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for saving my course project.
@shriram54942 жыл бұрын
20:50 now you can use std::unordered_map::contains in c++20 instead of checking if find() equals the past-the-end
@mobslicer15292 жыл бұрын
the equals sign is because of microsoft's new font having ligatures, you can disable it
@rami_atallah2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for c++ tutorial/series. You're amazing keep on
@waldek4798 Жыл бұрын
Sure, performance video about maps would be awesome!
@CastleBomber Жыл бұрын
damn, in 10 seconds you've solved my c++20 problem. twas a hardly laugh to see that i've been rockin' C++14 the whole time
@ajitbansal51202 жыл бұрын
When using string as a key for map it’s generally good to pass a string comparator func as well
@mjthebest72942 жыл бұрын
Of course we want performance comparisons and/or performance measuring tips in general. :)
@coderoyalty2 жыл бұрын
Wow bro… you gat me dripping … I was just thinking of it about an hour ago…
@maheshchoubey2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained , appreciate for your hard work and honest effort !!
@imereque2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all the explanations and examples, Cherno! Would definitely love to see a benchmark comparison for various kinds of maps! On a separate note, you once mentioned thinking about a video on variadic templates - would be excited to see that one too!
@thehappyvultur28862 жыл бұрын
Nice video, however, at 15:31, when 2 keys give the same hash they don't necessarily map to the same element, they only do it when they compare equal, so, just returning 0 in the hash function will not break the unordered_map, it will only make it really slow. Also, your setup seems to implicityly define some constructors and operators as, with `g++ -std=c++17`, in the std::vector example you needed to define the constructor and for using a custom type for the key in a std::unordered_map it also needed defining operator==. I think you should mention that you also need to define something that would tell if 2 keys are equal
@GamingDemiurge2 жыл бұрын
I love this little focus videos man. Keep it up!
@rcookie51282 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this series so much!
@edensheiko2 жыл бұрын
!the best c++ channel
@cghost4yt2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic channel! really nice to have as support when I'm studying. I think a video about concepts and constraints in C++20 would be interesting
@mikeorioles Жыл бұрын
This video helped a ton. Thanks as always.
@justinpakarno43462 жыл бұрын
Keep streaming Yan, it makes my day.
@kirubel_t71502 жыл бұрын
you are basically screwed. absolutely loved that word "screwed".🤣🤣
@gaurav35889 ай бұрын
since when Mr. Beast is teaching programming???
@Killerkraft9753 ай бұрын
This didn't age well LOL
@chess-code-and-math3 ай бұрын
LOL mrbeast is teaching programming
@xuetu42 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so funny and teach me a lots
@aidanmorrison59252 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I'd be keen to see the performance benchmarking of standard and unordered maps. I've heard that there's a couple of dimensions to the problem, in particular if the keys, (when strings) often start with identical substrings (common issue naming keys, eg 'address_line_1', 'address_line_2' etc) as this affects how long the string comparisons take to find the location in the tree. So apparently ordered maps can be faster for small collections, where a very small tree search can outstip the hash function, and the transition point depends on how distinct (or overlapping) the start of the strings in the keys are on average. I haven't done any benchmarking myself, but would be great to see.
@PedroOliveira-sl6nw2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if having a vector and then a map/unordered_map is too much for situations where you have too many elements (+1M) and you are iterating (i.e. every frame) but also need that fast lookup. Then we could iterate over the vector but lookup through the map. Maybe is not the best types but some kinda of searchable index that would retrieve the vector index of the object.
@user-sl6gn1ss8p2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same
@deanjohnson82332 жыл бұрын
This is a common space vs. time trade off. You are taking up more memory for an increase in speed. Depending on how you use the data, yes something like this can be worthwhile. Just remember that simply consuming more memory can hurt performance because it can affect caching performance. You might hear people call this kind of stuff a “hybrid” data structure as well. This is referring to some combination of two other data structures to get the benefits of both. This is never without downsides, but those downsides might not matter for your use case.
@user-sl6gn1ss8p2 жыл бұрын
@@deanjohnson8233 so, "profile it" it is I guess : p
@ChlorieHCl2 жыл бұрын
16:07 I think you don't need the constructor now if you're using C++20. C++20 permits aggregate initialization with parentheses now.
@ChlorieHCl2 жыл бұрын
Also you can specialize the std::hash struct without opening the std namespace, just use template struct std::hash { things } and you're good to go.
@Charles_Zheng Жыл бұрын
It has been a year, and i still want to see the performance comparison and more c++ series!!!
@ZulnorineP_Coding6 ай бұрын
We can also use the operator= to get the specific element in the vector :
@FreeDomSy-nk9ue2 жыл бұрын
In C++20 you could do map.contains() to check if an element exists.
@oiyo62412 жыл бұрын
Bro, perfect timing.
@oblivionronin2 жыл бұрын
I was already familiar with std::map, but i was not aware of the constness of the operator[] and how it always insert an element regardless, good stuff, keep it up ! Definitly interested to see a benchmark video !
@dealloc2 жыл бұрын
You can have best of both worlds with an index map; store values in a Vec and a map of hashes to indexes. Although the tradeoff is that more memory is used.
@kdowd161 Жыл бұрын
You are to C++ as Shakespeare is to the rhyming couplet - that was just great stuff....
@SilkRed2 жыл бұрын
Please continue this series
@Uvuv69692 жыл бұрын
I’m confused on the second quarter, after around 9:30. My brain just doesn’t want to comprehend all that new stuff rn. I’ll be coming back to this video later!
@Uvuv69692 жыл бұрын
Update: im back bitches
@R4ngeR4pidz2 жыл бұрын
I actually learned this today, would have liked to have this video a couple hours ago hahaha
@JorgeLuis-ts6qp2 жыл бұрын
Why the sintaxis to define the hash function is so complex? Why is not possible to define a hash method in the struct? Just the same as it is possible to define the less than operator to use std::map
@beizhou4025 Жыл бұрын
Do we need to write a customised hash function for using std::vector as the key?
@nathanielfincham704 Жыл бұрын
Once again you summarize a key data structure better than my college professor.
@sunnyshukla35022 жыл бұрын
"Why are there two different types of maps? Because there are different types of maps." - Cherno 2022
@hackpulsar2 жыл бұрын
19:46 that`s why i love c++, sometimes it`s so tricky and unpredictible
@mikaay42692 жыл бұрын
Python developers when Cherno says "Expensive" *cricket noises*
@mastershooter642 жыл бұрын
i would love a video going over a bunch of beginner, intermediate, advanced projects in c++ since yk the best way to learn to code is to...actually code lol
@pranalisuhaspatil2 ай бұрын
Hey Brother. I am Pranali from India. I work as C++ developer. Your videos helped me a lot. What I liked most is short & detailed videos. can you make the same on DSA & design patterns?
@A-_AkramahFaizi2 жыл бұрын
@The Cherno Please make a video for all the shortcut you use for coding, like at 06:55 and 21:00. I am highly anticipating it.
@franciscomalmeida2 жыл бұрын
Note that using std::pmr memory resources can significantly improve your containers performance, provided you set your memory resource objects appropriately.
@singhHarleen Жыл бұрын
Hey would love to see the performance benchmarks you mentioned towards the end of the video. Thanks for the brilliant content
@TheFinalCutBG2 жыл бұрын
Finally! A new video!!!!!!!
@amayesingnathan2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I'd love to see a video where you write your own memory allocator, maybe talking about different ways to implement them, and what scenarios each way might provide a boost in performance for. I've been working on my own physics engine and took a lot of inspiration from Box2D which uses a couple of different custom allocators for different situations, and I'd love to learn more.
@hymen0callis2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me of binary search. Haven't used that algo in years, mainly because the containers I work with tend to be unordered. But good to know, that you *could* use it.
@bongcloud7572 жыл бұрын
Wow i love that visual studio theme! Sir can you please tell what theme is it?
@Tag234562 жыл бұрын
I came for Cherno video. I stayed for the monologue.
@daleowens76952 жыл бұрын
A proper rigorous benchmark comparing map, unordered_map, and vector would be great. I constantly read benchmarks are meaningless because they weren't implemented correctly. It would be nice to see an example of that. It would also be nice to see a more sophisticated process than simply printing times from a timer. Perhaps memory usage and the underlying data structures that give rise to whether a map is ordered or not. Hell, cache friendliness of the three methods would be cool to see as well.
@garthenar2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're still doing these!! These video's help a lot. I''m not doing maps yet but I know I'll be back here in no time. I can't wait until I know enough to follow your code review videos!
@hugoalmeida12912 жыл бұрын
I missed this series so much buddy =]
@tljstewart2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some Cmake stuff, I find I am able to get up and running with python, importing package and sharing code quickly, would be nice to see your approach with Cmake
@samuelmartin73192 жыл бұрын
So I know that the C++ std::map uses a red-black tree implementation. I can't remember where I read this, but I thought it said that std::map uses an array to implement a red-black tree. If that is correct, why would you implement it using an array? How would it be any better? In a traditional rbt, any rotation will be O(1), but using an array implementation you would need to shift a lot of elements up and down the tree.
@h.hristov Жыл бұрын
Please make the benchmark performance comparison between map and unordered_map! Thanks!
@gone575762 жыл бұрын
the audio doesn’t fit the video well, but the general quality is much better!
@Lynx-ji5gz2 жыл бұрын
your video is amazing
@jeanahollings Жыл бұрын
Thank you, as always, I learn more from you than I would have ever even thought to ask. If you're looking for request though, I'd like to understand the hashing process. What is it doing with that string that somehow magically makes everything faster? Is the string converted to an int and then the int used as an index? How is that faster? I'm sure I'm not even asking the right question but I bet you could provide the right answer anyway because you have a deep understanding that I hope to get to at some point.
@supercyclone834211 ай бұрын
This video reminded me of why I put off learning C++ for so long! I've been using C# for years and even learned C last year, but C++ still scared me lol. I was going through your playlist and following along pretty well and then I started skipping around... and well... That hash setup is gross XD. I'll stick with it tho!
@roman-fo2sk2 жыл бұрын
great video as always, you should give a talk at cppcon about teaching cpp next year
@weirddan4552 жыл бұрын
15:30 Would it really override data if your hashes come out to the same? I thought it would do a memcmp or something under the hood as a way of handling collisions.
@SonicFan5352 жыл бұрын
It stores the colliding elements in the same bucket and handles lookup by doing a linear search using the equals operator, so yeah there is no overriding of data. The worst that can happen is poor performance.
@MirralisDias2 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment about this
@inakisoler42212 жыл бұрын
If you have a map with a key and some struct, how can you find a specific struct inside the map if you are given a struct to look for and not a key? For example, you want to erase Paris from the map in a function and for that you are given as parameter a CityRecord, but not a "Paris" string.
@BhavinMoriya-i8i6 ай бұрын
Fantastic video:) Do you have to reference berlinData while creating the instance? May I know why?
@XAE-L-xy7mi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos. Yes, a video map benchmark please :)