Sikkim Before Chogyals | The Tribes of Sikkim | Lepchas | Limboos | Mangars | The Cord

[@NiyatiiHangma-my4vs]

Came here from a facebook post which mentioned only limbus. I am from sikkim only andnstay here in yuksom. The post sharer on fb questioned the credibility of this video, but I feel this is really great research by someone from the outer community. Even limbus themselves do not knw this much and I think other tribes as well. But ewta kura ho tyoh ke ho bhanay, this is history, which cant be hundred percent true. This channel has referred to some books which I have also read during my thesis, and it is completely fine to take sources. Many won't agree with it, many will. Aboh itihaas ko lagi ta tyahi samayma po pugnuh paryoh ta ushova testai credibility ra authenticity khojnu cha bhane. We read sources and then we are supposed to research more, these youtube videos can only give you a summary of the history but atleast they are giving which is commendable. Khoi tah hamro afnui limbu bhai baini haru le banauna video ani ustai ramro knowledge cha bhane ujjyagar garung. Galti nikalnu, galti bataunu sajilo huncha, kasaiko mehnat cha, kunai bahiri manche le hamro samaj ko kura dekhaunu nae thulo kura ho tara hamro ta kaam ni galti dekhaunay ho ra aghi bardieuna ta. They have done great work i feel and this should continue. Do we have anyone who raised such things over youtube or any other big platform before? No!! Moreover they are giving sources, not claiming anything of their own or changing history specially the history which some of our own community people think is true but reject everything else.

[@anmolthapa7055]

There is a difference between history, legend and myth. Any culture in the world has abundance of myths and legends which has often overshadowed the reality. Our region is no exception. The history as mentioned in the video may or may not be authentic yet the team has left no stone unturned to present us with something that has not been done before.

[@ksambahang3122]

Vry true.

[@rojeenasubba]

Very well said, I agree with you

[@fulendekobaaumausamimbungl8205]

agreed😍

[@sonamlachenpa2154]

Before human world is ruled by dinosaurs.....

[@adyenmooschannel.2120]

Our Lepcha tribal history was not spoken of clearly until today. Thankyou very much for going in depth and reviving our history. 🎉🎉

[@dlrongs]

But he miss some point

[@adyenmooschannel.2120]

@@dlrongs We can't expect them to know everything. They tried their best.

[@pranansubba9587]

My friend's grandfather used to say once upon a time Lepcha(Rong) and Limbu(Tsong) belonged to a single community. If the wedding is between Lepcha and Limbu then the clan(thar) name is asked because there are many thar where Limbu and Lepcha's are the same eg. Luksom, Setling..

[@DonGamerzu]

Haina hola

[@pranansubba9587]

@@DonGamerzu no idea.

[@Tobiraaaama]

​​@@DonGamerzuyes yes..Even my thar is lingdam limbu and there are plenty of lingdamoo lepcha

[@NovemberMen05]

Absolutely Correct 💯

[@neupnembang]

Correct even my grandfather says Lucksom are Lepchas who became Limbu.

[@birhanglimbu609]

I'm a Limbu from Taplejung Nepal ,"Tamor "region that you mentioned in your video. This is one of the most relatable research video I have ever come across.think most of the evidence that supports your research about the limbu is true ,but don't know about other tripe. And another thing is that Limbu's never lost the war against Gurkha , instead they betreit us cleaverly >here Gurkhas those days were bhramins and chettriyas.they disobeyed the treaty b/wn . Limbu's and Gurkha.Rest all the evidence are really true.Even about the" mundhum" that you mentioned is very much true. You have a good research team great job.keep bringing us the truth about the history.

[@bhaskarupadhyaya2053]

Gorkhas had Khas(chhetri), Gurung, magar and Thakuri. These four caste/tribes were first gorkhas. Prithvi Narayan shah was thakuri

[@shailendradahal1693]

Gorkhas at the time not only had Bhramin and Chettris but also Magar and Gurung. Do not misrepresent facts for your convenience.

[@unitedbrothers5785]

Hlo

[@aaryallimbv2155]

Gorkhali attack against limbuwan 17 times but gorkha couldn't success in limbuwan in 1831 limbuwan and gorkha between many agreement to N × limbuwan and limbus are also join gorkha army participant in the world war

[@An_athiest_boy]

​@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053hamro desh KO history change GRN khojdai x iniharu

[@narprasadgurung5983]

I appreciate the informative history on origination of Mangars (Magars), Limbus and Lepchas ! I am amazed you tried to highlight some of the places of Nepal like Ilam, Fidim and Arun khola. We find some of the indigenous people who just worship nature like jungle and rivers even today !

[@An_athiest_boy]

Ghunsa also

[@sherinbhutia2108]

Very informative!! Nepali people from Nepal says Sikkim was part of nepal but now I am clear with video that sikkim was never been part of nepal... Sikkim for Lepchas

[@anitgurung4195]

Dozey in his 'Darjeeling Past and Present', writes, 'Prior to the year 1816, the whole the territory known as British Sikkim,belonged to Nepal. On April 9, 1975, the Sikkim Parliament announced the king was deposed and declared Sikkim had become part of India

[@homelesslavie_vlogs9600]

​@@anitgurung4195Sikkim Kingdom is older than Nepal Kingdom or Unification era of Nepal. Before unification Sikkim existed as an independent kingdom just like Limbuwan. Only difference between Limbuwan and Sikkim, is that Sikkim is now with India and Limbuwan is now with Nepal.

[@anitgurung4195]

@@homelesslavie_vlogs9600 so what if it's older.. That does not matter.. That's not the point of what we actually talking here. Pov - is that it was once a part of nepal(though it was a seperate kingdom) now it's in India.

[@theempress4920]

@@anitgurung4195 Never a part of Nepal bro.

[@anitgurung4195]

@@theempress4920 don't prof ur level.. It was once a part of nepal.. I'm indian , I'm a historian.. I know better then you bruh accept the faxx.. Now it's in India.

[@tmeto599]

I think, apart from the intricate research, the way you pronounced the local words was equally impressive.

[@channelthegijoeshow]

Why just 41k subs??? This channel is gold! I just love how much depth you've gone into whilst researching for this video. For whatever it may be worth, you have my loyalty 😊

[@ganeshmaden8332]

Very informative history of Limbu who ruled in eastern part of Nepal extending up toSikkim which is now in India. It means Limbus have right to rule in Limbuwan territory of Nepal and Sikkim.

[@Yanktang13]

Hum india mein khush hai aur humko apne Sikkim mein acha lagta hai hum limbuwan ko kuch nhi karna chate woh jasa bhi hai Nepal mein hi thik hai aur hum sab limboo ka pride hai 😊

[@nischalwanem48]

You are wrong in that line where you told limbu's couldn't resist gorkhas! Limbuwan was the only kingdom which gorkha empire couldn't won. All total 17 battle's were fought and all those 17battles were won by the limbuwani force. Gorkha couldn't conquer limbuwan so they made a pact treaty with them known as 'salt water treaty' and gave them lal mohar. Gorkha king P.N Shah promised the autonomy of limbuwan and the kipat system

[@tshosanggurung7038]

What's kipat?

[@Koromche]

​@@tshosanggurung7038 kipat means the original land of origin

[@sadeepshrestha5123]

Really any reference?

[@nischalwanem48]

@@sadeepshrestha5123 If you want proofs then you can read books like ' limbuwan ko dastabej' written by bhagi ingnam or 'the history and culture of kirat people' by Imansingh chemzong

[@nischalwanem48]

@@tshosanggurung7038 kipat was a land tenure system. Which was in kirat community for hundreds of years ago. Before gorkhas came sen overlord's also gave kipat rights to the Limbu 'raya'(respected chief or kings of a thum)

[@cmpunk5208]

And now Limbus,Lepchas,Bhutiyas are losing their glorious identity,their language and culture to the Gorkha identity. It's heartbreaking 💔 It's not Gorkhaland, it's Lepchaland.

[@sumitchettri7905]

Its DHOTILAND ममता BANERJEE LAND JOY BANGLA JOY HIND 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Foodlovervj]

Not lis limbuland

[@sumitchettri7905]

@@Foodlovervj KIRAT KINGDOM was from KATHMANDU VALLEY to RIVER TISTA. KHAMBU should tribe immediately.

[@An_athiest_boy]

​@@sumitchettri7905U r not from Nepal so U don't know our history

[@amitlepcha5044]

​@@sumitchettri7905jealous 🤣🤣

[@pemduptsheringlepcha688]

Aap ne history to bataya mager ye Lepcha,Limbu,Mangar aur Bhutia bhasa ka,jo itna achcha se pranounciation kiya.Amazing 👍👍👍🌹💐🌺💞

[@subbalabung4298]

I was aware that Limbu and Lepcha were the indigenous people of Sikkim, but I appreciate you sharing information about the Mangar.

[@sarita21rana76]

Excuse me actually mangar was the tribe even before these okay stupid😡🤬

[@leesararana9565]

Can't you even shut up for some time mr or miss unknown idiot stupid 😡your face 💩

[@An_athiest_boy]

It's magar not mangar

[@DeadRose190]

Limbuwan didn’t loose war with Gorkha. There was a treaty between then gorkha king Pritivinarayan Shah and the Limbuwan. In fact Limbuwan was only region which Prithvinarayan shah couldn’t conquer with war.

[@bhaskarupadhyaya2053]

It still became part of Gorkha kingdom though. Treaty was in favor of gorkha that means it is winning. Sorry but it’s true

[@bhaskarupadhyaya2053]

If limbu had won, it would have been in their favor. But good thing happened now Nepal is strong with big population/land otherwise it might have been part of British empire

[@tirmairakihda]

🤣🤣they loose.

[@amoeba8460]

​@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053 learn history accurately the army of the shah lost to the british. Lol

[@bikashsubba4803]

@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053in human history,limbu(kirat)never looses in war,shah had lied and not implemented as treaty,and so many more..

[@kalamangar6730]

Proud to be Mangar❤️

[@pratikking2272]

Magars are definity the descandants of Genjhis khan. However, they eventually converted to Hinduism and mixed with Indo- Aryan tribues such as Khas and Tharus that lived in western middle and southern Nepal. Nowdays, Magars often look like Half Indians. The Sens on the other hand were Bengalis and had close connections with Khas, Madhesi and Newar tribes. During the time of the Sens, Kapalis, Mali, Malakar migrated from Bengal to Kathmandu valley.

[@anugaming2334]

Magar holani

[@sarita21rana76]

Even me😊

[@An_athiest_boy]

​@@anugaming2334yo mula Genghis Khan ko xora ho k xoddeu hami Nepali ho jay Nepal 🇳🇵

[@palden74]

इतिहास भन्ने कुरो एउटा अनुमान लगाए लेखिएको हुन्छ। संसारको धेरै देशहरुमा कति इतिहासहरु लाई त दबाको पनि हुन्छ। नेपालको मान्छेहरु सँग कुरा गर्यो भने सिक्किम त पहिला हाम्रो थ्यो भन्छ। बरु नेपालले चै सिक्किमको धेरै ठाउँहरु ओगटेको बुझिन्छ। इमानसिंह चेम्जोङ दार्जिलिङमा जन्म भएता पनि नेपाली नागरिक नै हुनुहुन्थ्यो। हाल तिब्बतको चुम्बी भ्यालीमा पहिला लेप्चा हुने गर्थ्यो भने तिब्बत मा पनि टुक्रा-टुक्रा राजाहरू हुने गर्थ्यो। प्राचिनकालमा लेप्चाहरुले लगाउने गहना चाहिँ झि, छुरु, मुगा, टर्किज नै लगाउने गर्थ्यो भनेर साबित चाहिँ हुन्छ, उस्तै गहनाहरु तिब्बतका हरुले पनि लगाउँछन् नेपालको ताप्लेजुङ्ग भन्ने जिल्ला जो चै हाम्रो नर्थ सिक्किमसँग नजिक पर्छ, अनि त्यहाँ अझै पनि लेप्चाको चिहानहरु भेटिन्छ। लेप्चा को चिहान खोतालेर त्यहाँको हालको लोकोलहरुले झी, छुरू जस्तो किम्ती समानहर निकाल्ने गर्थ्यो भन्छन्। हाल ताप्लेजुङको त्यो ठाउँ नेपाली सेनाको अण्डर मा छन्। नेपालमा मा पनि अनेको राजाहरु हुने गर्थ्यो। सिक्किम मा पनि प्रान्त प्रान्तमा आ-आफ्नो शासक हुने गर्थ्यो। सबै यी भनिएका जातिहरूको आफ्नो-आफ्नो territory हुनेगर्थ्यो । पक्कै पनि एकार्काको अण्डर मा चाहिँ कोही थिएन! एकीकृत सिक्किम बनाउने चाहिँ चोग्याल फुन्त्सोग नामग्याल नै हो भनेर बुझिन्छ। अब यो नामग्याल को सन्तानहरूको DNA चेक गर्यो भने लिम्बू को पनि भेटिन्छ लेप्चा को पनि भेटिन्छ। लिम्बुनी त दोस्रो राजाको एकदम प्यारी रानी नै थियो भनेर पनि बुझिन्छ। Tibet मा पनि त्यहाँ बुद्धिजम आउनु भन्दा अगाडि कुल पित्र मान्ने गर्थ्यो भनेर बुझिन्छ। अझैपनि त्यस्ता मान्ने व्यक्तिहरु tibet मा छन भन्छन, जसले दलाई लामाको विरोध गर्ने गर्छन्। लिम्बू लेप्चा मगर भोटिया को इतिहास अझ गहिरेर खोज्यो भने एउटै परिवार बाट छुटेको दाजुभाइ हुनु पर्छ। ईतिहास धेरै गाजे माजे छन्। नेपालमा पनि अंशुवर्माकी छोरी भृकुटी जो चै तिब्बतको एउटा राजा संगसंघुम्पा ले बिहे गरेका थिए, त्यो इतिहासलाई लुकाउनु खोजेको देखिन्छ।यो भिडियो टीमले धेरै जसो डाक्टर इमानसिंह चेम्जोङ को पुस्तक बाट संकलन गरेको भेटिन्छ।

[@dbyakkha6052]

Ing hang or Iyakhang

[@Agrinotebook12]

I am a native of Bihar....I stay in Kalimpong ....what a beautiful language and information is presentged in Video....very good...keep it up.

[@gaarn2672]

Biharis are Lepchas

[@sumanniks]

Educational material for today's generation.

[@dorjeedolma8647]

The way the content creator says the names of indigenous leaders and places is so very impressive ! U have done your research and home work quite well.. That means the only credible history of Sikkim lies after sighning of the treaty of blood brotherhood between the Chiefs Thekong Thek and Khe Bumsa! Issay bad toh apko koi confusion nahin hogi shayad! Now, lets have a video on tge phase after that! Looking forward to it! 😊

[@takiyamagar1621]

Thank you 💗 for giving a nice information about our mangar tribe 💖🙏

[@akkuXD3]

Yes, finally someone shines the light on Magars. Sikkim govt. Negelect magars and dont give them Schedule Tribe status. If someone reads the history of Sikkim before chogyal then he would know about Magars in Sikkim.

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

Magar were arrived in Sikkim region in early 16 century in lohang sen period..who came from makwanpur . Lohang sen grand son was suitipati sen (original Hindupati sena) . After the arrival of sen in lower part of limbuwan,morang kingdom.Sen kept his magar soldersin boundary up to testa at that time for security.(Morang kingdom boarder were up to west sikim testa till 16 century).Magar soldier were kept even in chainpur , Darjeeling, which can be proved by the evidence of larmohar issued at that time. Sen established different fort/Killa where magar solders were kept which later know magar jong in limbuwan region( west Sikkim, Darjeeling region.)You have to researched the history of sen and magar .Sen and magar are different.find the history of rudra sen ,munkunda sen ,lohang sen and seutipati Sen .They all were from the same descendants..you will get the ans Some claim mukunda sen as magar king ,but They failed to provide the evidence.Thefore many writers disagree with this. Sen were the king and magar were soldiers. Because the lohang sen desendent are now today wanem limbu clan which is found wanem Genealogy.if Magar were the king and have kingdom in limbuwan region.They wouldn't be vanised in limbu clan. It shows how small they were in number.They were just a soldier.(Larmohar issued by sen about magar solders who were kept for boarder security prove this evidencece) The ancestors land of magar is in west Nepal not Sikkim.Between ktm to west Sikkim there are different tribe and had their kingdom between these region. Sunuwar/koich (dukhkhosi leku khola) ,Rai/jamidar/khambu(lekhu to west Arun river) and limbu/Yakthung (had limbuwan territory from Arun east to west Sikkim/Testa). And it very surprise to find magar tribe in limbuwan ,Sikkim territory which ancestors land in west Nepal . But one thing is true that Sen arrived in limbuwan and Sikkim in early 16 century before bhutia ,but you have to be cleared that magar were soldiers and sen were the king. Mass migration of magar and gurrung as a soldier in eastern limbuwan ,Darjeeling Sikkim region was during gorkha (shah king) invasion in later 18 century. The first census of Sikkim also show the population of Bhutia(lho),lepcha(Men),limboo(Tsong),and nepali communities at that time.

[@anmolthapa7055]

Very informative. Feeling proud to be descendent of all three tribes of Sikkim. My father being a Mong (Magar), my mother being a Rong (Lepcha) and my Grandmother being a Chong (limbu) 😊😊😊

[@naveensharma-dq8xm]

Vaise bhai Limbu kya bhaav chal rahe hai udhar ko....

[@anmolthapa7055]

@@naveensharma-dq8xm ?????

[@shillongmixbag5280]

@@naveensharma-dq8xm nimbu ka bhaav poocha raha hai behenchod!!

[@ankurzvlogz7753]

Tu kiu Thapa likhta hei ,,thapa to hindu ha

[@anmolthapa7055]

@@ankurzvlogz7753 If you don't know, it is better to keep yourself quiet.

[@amanlimbu8432]

Sikkim, Darjeeling and 9 district of Nepal are son of soil of limbuwan respected sir with respect and love ❤️

[@pritamlimbu994]

Limbuwan was established somewhere around 5A.D. Whereas Sikkim was established in 1642 A. D. from the lands of Limbuwan after the Lho-Mehn-Tshong Tsum treaty. Before Lho-Mehn-Tshong Tsum treaty present day west Sikkim and Darjeeling used to be part of Limbuwan which is used to be known as Chong\ Tshong Limbu kingdom. Limbuwan is our home and Nepal is our country. Long Live Limbuwan, Long Live Nepal.

[@JonathanKumar-zp9fv]

And Nepal was created in 17th century 🤣

[@pritamlimbu994]

​​@@JonathanKumar-zp9fv And India was created in 1947 A. D. After Britishers left India 🤣.

[@JonathanKumar-zp9fv]

@@pritamlimbu994 ok lets see who is the first king who ruled the In Entire Nepal as an United not some warlord from some small town? 😂😂I’ll wait

[@pritamlimbu994]

@@JonathanKumar-zp9fv The entire Himalayas was already unified by the tribals chiefs of Tibeto Burman people in ancient time even before formation of Nepal and the concept of India. Nepal is the historical name of Present day Kathmandu Valley. Nepal is product of Gorkha empire expansion and Gorkhali King Prithivi Narayan Shah was the first king of unified Nepal and present day India is the product of British empire colonialism. Britishers were the first ruler of present day India. Did I forgot Mughals 🤣🤣🤣??? .

[@JonathanKumar-zp9fv]

@@pritamlimbu994 yes of course tibetan been living there for ever. In 7th century the 33rd king songtsen gampo unified the whole Tibetan areas.all the Himalayan region come under Tibet not Nepal. Mustang, tamang, dolpo all these small kingdom had longer history than your gorka history 😅 Shan came to seen in 17th century and started the idea of Nepal. Ashoka ruled the entire Indian subcontinent from 268 B.C.E to 232 B.C.E. let me know if you want more facts 😀😀

[@chanthapa7943]

Thank you so much for the analysis of Sikkim history......There was a Lepcha king Limbu and Magar king

[@theempress4920]

They were Lepcha and Magar Chiefs

[@pratikking2272]

Magars are definity the descandants of Genjhis khan. However, they eventually converted to Hinduism and mixed with Indo- Aryan tribues such as Khas and Tharus that lived in western middle and southern Nepal. Nowdays, Magars often look like Half Indians. The Sens on the other hand were Bengalis and had close connections with Khas, Madhesi and Newar tribes. During the time of the Sens, Kapalis, Mali, Malakar migrated from Bengal to Kathmandu valley.

[@honeybun6287]

Great research focusing on each community .we are all proud of our community and have a huge respect .we shouldn't forget our roots

[@bcimemas]

Bro why aren't you saying that limbu and Magars are Nepali tribe. And the rivers and districts you are talking about all belong to Nepal.

[@lakpatsheringbhutia1522]

I belong to 'Lho' community that is Bhutia the way you pronounce the local lepcha words that's impressive 👍

[@vikkythapa6256]

Very informative video👍👍 proud to be sikkimese mangar😊

[@suro200]

Thanks for mentioning manger🙏 so glad that manger caste is mention in history of Sikkim ❤❤

[@rubenlepcha2291]

Proud to be a Lepcha ❤️

[@Rihanglimboo]

Proud to be limboo

[@sumitchettri7905]

Proud to be NEPALI JAI HIND.

[@An_athiest_boy]

​@@sumitchettri7905Nepali and jay hind ? R U crazy

[@chandankumardas6936]

Aapka research aur speach... मैं आपके रिसर्च से जुड़ना चाहता हूं। बहुत सारी जानकारी ऐसी है जो दबी हुई है।

[@kantathapa162]

Very informative regarding mangars thank you so much

[@shankarkhewa8039]

thanks for the information about limbu. watching you from Australia with my children and showing the history where we came from, and our surname limbu khewa. I will be following you.

[@Yanktang13]

Khewa hamro goan ma jada hunu cha tapai haru ne chicken khanu hundai na ?

[@ksambahang3122]

Im proud limboo and thank you Mr. Pankaj Shastri ji🙏👍❤

[@rinchen116]

Proud to be lepcha ❤

[@paradise9981]

Can you do more research on Mongs ( Mangar/Magars) in sikkim? More details

[@HariManger]

Yes! Sikkim Magar history

[@user-dz2kq9qn9d]

I am from sikkim proud to be Limbu Nd Thank you very much for such a knowledgeable history

[@sanjaytamang4176]

Sikkim is the land of limbu tribes this is the real world of the history, great reporter thanks bro

[@santoshallay5518]

Thankyou for highlighting the ancient history of Sikkim and its tribes There were other Mangarjongs too in other parts of Sikkim ....

[@drukrealityandjourney8063]

Nope allay migrated from nepal

[@Tobiraaaama]

Magars were from Magarat which was in central nepal But there was areas of each tribes like sunwars,khambus etc in between..So how magars came to sikkim region is a mystery..May be they directly migrated from Tibet long before the chogyal dynasty Magars do have a place in folklore of limbus how deusare started..

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

​@@Tobiraaaamamagar migrated in Sikkim in the the period of sen . Lohang sen ruled during 16 century in vijyapur of limbuwan.and his grand son setupati sen ruled in west Sikkim during that time. Magar were used to be soldier of sen who placed in boarder for security so ,their jong /Killa are found even in Darjeeling and Sikkim region.

[@sarancherenteginkhasar1319]

lepcha migrated from tibet in 3 to 4 century during drigum tsenpo rebellion against shangshung culture bon influnces, he began to supress shangshung bon and perfered his own version of bon.he was killed by persian ambassdor during wrestling match and kingdom disintegrated and rebuilt by second child after conquering yarlung valley he started purgyal empire. tsong(tsang) is tibetan people mentioned in tibetan tribes during songsten gampo period. today are known as limbos and rai. magar are also tibetan tribes . descendants of tibetan armies when tibet controlled till ganges river to bay of bengal after killing brahmin king who killed last pala buddhist king. tamang, gurung, etc are also result of tibetan armies who stay behind to protect tibet border.

[@user-in1yw9ty5t]

This is a myth

[@chomolungmaS]

😂😂 😂 kuch vi

[@chomolungmaS]

😂😂 😂 kuch vi

[@Rengoku2-qsf]

Where did lepchas came from option - tibet, Myanmar,japan,thailand.mongolia and china. Because in Google there are lot of theory about lepcha people that they have migrated from one of this countrys but they think themselves like they have not migrated from any place tell me pliz

[@kumarrai4816]

Yes. You are 95% right in history of Skkim . Thanks. Well come to history doctrines. God blessed you.

[@samulrai2071]

There is lots name of places called Magar Jung Sikkim Darjeeling and Tarai where Mangar used to rule the area

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

They were the solders of sen . Morang boarder were up to testa. Lohang sen migrated in vijyapur of limbuwan in early16 century from makwanpur and his grand son setupati sen migrated in sikim and ruled in west Sikkim. Here you have to be cleared that magar were kept in boarder area of sikimm region for security during the sen period so the during that time, magar jong/killa were established in darjelling,sikkim region.They dinot ruled that placed .They were just kept their for security of boarder.

[@samulrai2071]

@@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg you mean say that Mangar were just soilders ? ha ha please be cleared first. History of Mangar queen was not fake , ok

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

@@samulrai2071 mm

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

@@samulrai2071 I have denied the presence about the Sen and his wife. ,but They only arrived in the region early 16 century and magar as soldier arrived at that time. Find the difference of Sen and magar history..The historical land of magar in west Nepal..there are some community were been living between KTM to sikkim like sunuwar (KTM to sunkhoshi) ,Rai( sunkhoshi to Arun west Nepal ) and limbu( Arun east to west Sikkim) so,how magar became king and ruled in sikkim which ancestors land is west nepal.They arrived at the time of sen in early 16 century not before than that. Do you know who is rudra Sen ,munkunda Sen ,lohang Sen ,sentupati Sen ?? Find the historical background of Sen and relation between above sens which refer to king. There are different larhmohar issued by Sen in limbuwan in 16 century where magar were kept in boarder of chainpur for security even they were kept in darjelling and Sikkim region .(For evidence.i will provide you the pic DM us in FB with the FB name limbusquad.)

[@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg]

@@samulrai2071 yes ,they were a solder.find the historical background of Sen and magar in detail first. Who is lohang Sen ,sentupati Sen ,rudra Sen ,munkunda Sen??you will get the ans.. sen were the king and magar were thier soldier.

[@palden74]

उस जमाने में भोटीया भी हुआ करते थे। बेशक 1642 में सिक्किम के पहले राजा तिब्बत से आए हुए लामा बने हो, लेकिन भोटिया जाती तभी भी पहले से ही हुआ करता थे। कहीं लोग कहते हैं भोटिया लोग तिब्बत से या भूटान से आए हुए लोग हैं। इतिहास के साथ साथ तथ्य के आधार से भी देखना चाहिए। भुटिया भाषा ना तो तिब्बतन के साथ मिलती है या भूटानी के साथ! जैसे लद्दाखकीभाषा तिब्बत से नहीं मिलती है अरुणाचल प्रदेशकी मोंगपा भाषा भी तिब्बतन के साथ नहीं मिलती है। लेकिन वह लोग वहीं के लोग हैं। बात यह है कि भोटिया लोग तिब्बतन बुद्धिज्म होने के नाते बुद्धिस्ट मॉन्क्स को बहुत सम्मान करते हैं , अभी भी बड़े बड़े तिब्बतन बड़े गुरुओं को बुद्धिज्म के नाते बहुत आदर और सम्मान करते हैं उच्च दर्जे पर रखते हैं। उस वक्त 1642 मैं भी भूटिया लोगोनें तिब्बत से आए हुए (लामा) को adopt किया। उन्हे गुरु होने के नाते से राजा बनाने की प्रस्ताव को स्वीकार किया। भुटिया भाषा तिब्बत के या भूटान के साथ 85 प्रतिशत नहीं मिलती। लेकिन कहीं कल्चर पोशाक और धर्म मिलती है। शेरपा के साथ भी मिलती है।

[@pemachukibhutia6866]

Rightly pointed out sir, even before the Greater Sikkim (1642), Lhopo community (now included within the umbrella term 'Bhutia') dwelled in this part of eastern Himalayas along with the lepchas and tsongs. Further @ the cord, take reference to the books @zigmee bhutia suggested in the comment above and bring out the comprehensive history of Sikkim which is less distorted.. Thank you

[@Ekshahangmasubba]

I was grown up listening that lepchas, bhutias and limboo were the indigenous peoples of Sikkim but now only in this video I came to know about magars

[@SANGINsubba]

iam proud to be limbu 🙋‍♂️... knowledge able video thanks bro🌻

[@newzonglepcha2050]

Thank you so much Pankaj Shastri for elaborating this history 🙏

[@Lmb27Anil]

This is the real history ❤

[@vickey171]

I am so thankful to you for such a informative video... N also Today M very much happy to know about my own tribe Manger.. hoping that in future to get more such type of informative videos...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@sandeeplepcha5605]

Thankyou sir somuch jankari ke liye.

[@abishaksubba7485]

We want to learn more about limbo in Sikkim

[@NumingshoLimbu-nk5fc]

We sikkim limbu are not nepali we are sikkimese but why when we search which tribes lives in sikkim why it's say's lepcha bhutia and nepali why not limbu???????even the word sikkim was given from sikkim.... queen .......

[@takiyamagar1621]

Similarly Eim means home in mangar language

[@aadeshlimbu8592]

​@@takiyamagar1621not eim its khim=house or place and su=newand from limbu word sukhim it later became sikkim

[@nepalmadenbrand8125]

❤❤Thank a Lots The Cord❤❤

[@rolexthamsuhang9593]

Thanks a lot Brother for Limbu or Limbuwan History👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sharmistharai5518]

Your research work is very interesting & based on facts .👍👏 There are some medias who without going through thorough study misled the people & facts . More would like to watch your research work on Sikkim,Darjeeling,Doars ,Bhutan & Nepal 😊

[@apocalypse6422]

Fabulous work, I am a native of Sikkim, Even for us it's hard to do this kind of research of our own state,

[@chandrathapa4340]

Thank you very much , very interesting , generation tribe.

[@chong_murdereronthemic]

Broken information. 10 Limbus/10 Limbuwan isn't a division of 'thar'. It's the 10 states inside limbuwan.

[@sumitchettri7905]

BEFORE RONG,MANGAR,YAKTHUNG CHIEF ruled,there was PALPA SEN KINGDOM which later became MORANG SEN KINGDOM and finally this chief were ruling under SEN KINGDOM. SEN AND CHUGAL are rival KINGDOM, later half LIMBUWAN(ARUN TO MECHI) was regained by SEN after BHUTAN CAPTURED SIKKIM area. Before PALPA SEN,there was long history of KIRAT from TRISHULI to TISTA. Migration of LICHHAVI from BIHAR to KATHMANDU makes KIRAT Weaker and only TISTA to SUNKOSI became KIRAT land and finally KIRATI PEOPLE were divided into YAKTHUNG, KHAMBU,KOINCH,YAKKHA etc.

[@pratikking2272]

You are a brainwashed, Chettri who hates himself to believe in all this bullshit. I bet you are from Sikkim. The real rulers of Nepal were brown skinned people who eventually were forced to move southwards due to the migration of Siberian race from the North Pole.

[@santoshthada5313]

मगध-मगर magadh people -sanskrit toung magar.

[@sumitchettri7905]

@@santoshthada5313 MANGAR=MONGOLOID TRIBE.

[@SeeeSh-pv5qw]

Sen didnt actually had fully control over limbuwan . sen acted as overlord but the power was under yakthung ministers. Sen princess were married to the limbu rayas(kings) , my bloodline also has a sen princess. King hangsu raya phago of maiwa had won the hand of the daughter of kamadattasen of the vijayapur

[@beegirls367]

You forgot ChaudandhiGadhi

[@lonmangar3209]

Glad to hear that the Mangar community is in the History of Sikkim. The Mongol term was mentioned in the 8th century and broadly used as an umbrella term for Mongolian tribes after the rise of Genghis Khan. Imam Singh Chemjong is wrong about the Mongar term and all the theories he came up with about Mangars being the descendants of Mongols. In the history of Nepal, Western Nepal was mentioned as Magwar Bisaya in the scripture of the 10th century. And King Aramudi ruled Western Nepal around the 8th century. He was believed to be Mangar as his name sounds quite similar to our language. According to our legend, The supreme God " Lon " created Goparung & Separung who are believed to be the ancestor of mankind & master of the spirit world respectively. According to belief, we evolved from two types of caves namely Pelma Khar Pu and Yoma Khar Pu.

[@user-in1yw9ty5t]

The cultural and ancestral origin of Magar Thapa is in Nepal. However Thapas migrated to South Sikkim during later chronological order of the history of Sikkim. Mangar isn't clearly defined as what it is.

[@user-vh9tg4sv2q]

so nicely narrated...... long live Himalayan People... Jai Hindh

[@bharatisharma1333]

Great research! Hats off to u Sir. Thanks a million for sharing such a wonderful video 🙏🙏🙏💐

[@pritamlimbu994]

Sikkim(Sukhim) was established as an independent nation inside from the lands of Limbuwan in 1642 A. D. Whoever published that map of sikkim in the background is wrong and misleading. I can show you original map of Limbuwan in 5 A. D. Limbuwan was never part of greater sikkim instead west sikkim region was once part of Limbuwan before Lho-Mehn-Tsong-sum Treaty in 1642 A. D. Yakthung Laaje (Limbuwan) was an independent nation formed around 5 A. D. when thibangsa (10 kings from tai orgin) declared the war and won the war against 8 old yakthung kings descendants of bhuiputhang dynasty (Not 8 kirati king).All the 10 kings decided to name their nation Limbuwan (Li : bow, Ambu : acquire) since the war was won with the help of bow and arrows. The thibangsa decided to divide and rule their land from Arun River to Teesta River (west sikkim) into thibong yolks (10 kingdoms). Whereas, Sikkim became an independent nation only in 1642 A. D. when Phuntsog Namgyal became chogyal (king) and sat on the throne of sikkim after the arrival of Bhutias from Tibet. Before the arrivals of Namgyal dynasty and Bhutias from Tibet, Sikkim was ruled by Lepcha tribal chiefs, Limbu tribal chiefs and Mangar tribal chiefs... As Lepcha (Rong) and Limbu ( Tshong : Limbu ) are the native inhabitants of sikkim. Lho-Mehn-Tsong Sum treaty was signed between 8 Bhutias tribal chiefs, 12 Limbu tribal chiefs and 4 Lepcha tribal chiefs in West sikkim in 1642 A. D. This peace treaty was signed between Bhutias, Lepcha and Limbu to not to attack against each other and these communities will be remain as one family. Limbuwan lose the west sikkim region because of this treaty and the new territory was set from Arun River in the west to Mechi river in the east. The original and older name of Sikkim in Limbu language is Chung jung Laaje. The term Sikkim was derived from chyogal Tensung Namgyal's Limbu Queen Thungwamukma (Limbu princess from yangwarok kingdom of Limbuwan) who named the new built Rabadentse palace as "Song-Khim~Su-khim" which means new place or new home which later on became the name of whole country as Sikkim. Present day, around 70% of original territory of Limbuwan is in Nepal where as around 30% of territory is in west sikkim region.

[@yogitpa.198]

Proud to be Sikkimese Mangar..🤴🤴

[@suprety1634]

But still mangars are not given the Schedule tribe status😢

[@Ahrikshya3590]

They came from west Nepal served as gorkha army and setteld there in Sikkim so,How they are listed in to ST?😅

[@bhaskarupadhyaya2053]

@@Ahrikshya3590 ST is not based on who came from where. It is based on how disadvantaged the group is, and if they have distinct language/culture/dress/community, etc that makes a tribe.

[@homelesslavie_vlogs9600]

​@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053one must be indigenous first to get the ST status. Magars aren't indigenous to Sikkim.

[@bhaskarupadhyaya2053]

@@homelesslavie_vlogs9600 no bro it’s not based on whether they lived in 10,000 years or 200 years. If so than why Tamangs are in ST?? Tamang’s homeland is central Nepal. They migrated into Sikkim/Darjeeling in last 150-300 years max only.

[@prabinlawati-ut9cv]

Hi can u make one more video about the limbu .

[@timothywilliambasnett5140]

Awesome and informative….Thank you for your research and video 🙏

[@Eric-sf2qs]

I appreciate this video for sharing true history of Sikkim. limbu , lepchas , magar are original people of Sikkim.. later on bhutia people r migrated from Tibet n gorkha people from Nepal but ironically bhutia people always give tag to gorkha people they r nepali immigrants although bhutia people r also Tibetan immigrants lol👍 (note : Limbu and magar people are also subgroup of gorkha tribe)

[@roshanchetry4203]

Gorkha ,magar ,lepchas all people are migrated from Africa lol 😂

[@rajkubirrai9114]

Hi

[@theempress4920]

Nepali people are from Nepal or India?

[@theempress4920]

The original people of Sikkim were Biharis because they were there before Lepcha Bhutia and Nepalis.

[@user-in1yw9ty5t]

Bhutias were already there as nomads when magars came to Sikkim. Only the princely authorities and royalty came to Sikkim and Bhutan and claimed the land like the Gorkhas of Gorkha rajya of Nepal.

[@chomolungmaS]

You missed points but whatever you said 99% correct about limbu and sukhim.

[@shinesharma7465]

Thank you very much sir I was searching that History of Sikkim before chogyal dinesty 1641. 🙏

[@Siwon_Limbu]

Wrong information Limbuwan is the only kingdom that Gorkha king P.N Shah couldn't defeat. After a number of defeats by the Limbuwan army, the Gurkha army finally made peace treaty with Limbuwan and incorporated the Limbuwan states into Nepal under a mutual pact.

[@sumitchettri7905]

RIVER ARUN TO RIVER TISTA IS YAKTHUNG LAJJE. YAKTHUNG LAJJE =LIMBUWAN KINGDOM. They called themselves YAKTHUNG. BHUTIA CALL THEM TSONG. GORKHA finally call them LIMBU/SUBBA. EAST of TISTA RIVER IS MAYEL LYANG. WEST OF TISTA RIVER IS YAKTHUNG LAJJE. When PALPA SEN KINGDOM ruled upto TISTA, MANGAR influenced become more efficient and MANGAR were ruling until CHUGAL KINGDOM MERGED whole YAKTHUNG LAJJE (HALF IN NEPAL AND INDIA) . SEN were ruling UPTO MECHI RIVER until GORKHA KINGDOM CAPTURED. SIKKIM, DARJEELING was part of 0)KIRATI CHIEF RULED(Some YAKTHUNG, RONG,KHAMBU,YAKKHA,KOINCH) 1)PALPA SEN KINGDOM 2)MORANG SEN KINGDOM 3)MANGAR CHIEF 4)CHUGAL KINGDOM 5)GORKHA SHAH RULERS

[@welcome1891]

Shah rulers are from india not nepali

[@sumitchettri7905]

@@welcome1891 According to this logic NEPAL39.39% KHAS ARYANS and MADHESI 25% were from INDIA. Even NEPAL Mongoloid migrate from present NORTH EAST INDIA. Whole 100% will be from INDIA. I am from DARJEELING bro. JAI HIND.

[@wilsons2882]

no lepcha wow. nice history lesson

[@sumitchettri7905]

@@wilsons2882MAYEL LYANG KINGDOM is east of RIVER TISTA. This history is only upto TISTA. KALIMPONG DISTRICT and EASTERN PART OF RIVER TISTA of SIKKIM IS LEPCHA KINGDOM.

[@wilsons2882]

@@sumitchettri7905 is rong lepcha?

[@kamalthapa5867]

Hats Off to your research !!! Your hard work is appreciated.

[@thenduplepcha2616]

Woo I am lepcha but I don't even know this much of history thank u so much

[@susillimbuofficial1444]

And here i am from the tribal community of limbu ....❤️( the warriors of the hill tribe❤️)limbu gorkha ke samne nai jhuka tha....they attaked limbuwan 17 times but never got victory over limbuwan kimgdom.....and at last they decided to do friendly treaty with limbu kings ,,,and limbu title is not given by gorkhas ,,, subba is the title given to limbu by gorkhas......limbu means `li´ stands for `Bow´archery and ` mbu´ means to carry in limbu language....

[@rudramayalimbu370]

Mainly gorkha are manger looks at history

[@susillimbuofficial1444]

@@rudramayalimbu370 manger ?

[@susillimbuofficial1444]

@@rudramayalimbu370 gorkha warriors were magars and gurungs not chhetris in ancient time....

[@homelesslavie_vlogs9600]

​@@susillimbuofficial1444Magars & Gurungs were foot soldiers and Chetris were their commanders in Gorkha King's era.

[@susillimbuofficial1444]

@@homelesslavie_vlogs9600 yeah thats true but the contribution of magars and gurungs is not being told or comemorate in present time .......

[@adityalimbu3470]

Thank you very much bro, i am belong to indigenous community which is the Limbu yakthung indigenous tribe of Eastern nepal, Lots of love from east nepal 🧡👍👍

[@vinashvinash5056]

its not indeginous ,, in this vid too it is clearly stated limbus too came from tibetan area via sikkim to nepal .. therefore its not indegeinous … before you there were gopal vanshi and mahishpal vanshi

[@jinxBlack21]

@@vinashvinash5056😂

[@bramstokes7156]

Limbus are indigenous to East Nepal. They also have history of being displaced within Nepal and their new home within Nepal. Nepal accepts the indigenous status of Limbus. Don't make us laugh. I have a heartburn.

[@SeeeSh-pv5qw]

@@vinashvinash5056 first go research about the word indegenous or native. Those who came or settled at first are called indegenous and Limbus(yakthungs) are the first settlers of eastern himalayas .

[@RamGurung-qd8ku]

Great work done.highly commendable. Thanks.

[@sumanthakur9189]

Wow glad to know about sikkim

[@tsetenwangdi2038]

The lepchas are the originals

[@bijuthegim]

Yeah ….Lepchas are first settlers of Sikkim… However some lepchas were also converted to Limbus in the past…In our geneology, some lepchas formed union with Limbu

[@tsetenwangdi2038]

​@@bijuthegimlepchas are the originals that's the fact not the settlers and all

[@Tobiraaaama]

​@@bijuthegimand some limbus were converted to lepchas tooo

[@Tobiraaaama]

​@@tsetenwangdi2038Limbus too...limbus were the ist settlers in west sikkim along with eastern nepal...Geographical boundaries weren't as exact as now...Myal lyang comprised few parts of present day nepal too and bhutan

[@starwarrier479]

One should never forget the blood brotherhood between the tribes .. Witness Mt khanchendzonga still standing and will be there till the end of times ..

[@bramstokes7156]

Blood brotherhood could have been among limbus and Thapas too but it didn't this means that Lepchas were the native tribe of Sikkim. The Lepchas found bhotiyas Bhutias Tibetans as legitimate brothers however the blood brotherhood didn't last long. The peaceful pact by blood was to live smas brothers and sisters as one blood one kin by marriage and also loyalty.

[@nepalikooking]

Thank you for this well researched infotainment.

[@babulalmalu2743]

Well researched 🎉 though Being from Sikkim & having studied Sikkim history during school days, these part of the history was never there in the syllabus. Appreciate your effort 🎉

[@dipeshranamanger7800]

We Mangars are least bothered with our history, we shall be on par with Lepchas and Tsongs, being native we are not even a tribe.... Very infomative content, keep up with your good work...

[@shyaamukaka111]

You need to study the history books more than 10 times again, thank you 🙏

[@kdkp2000]

Ohh I used to think that Bhutia are real/ Indegenous people are Sikkim but today I got to know that Lepchas,Limbu and Magars are. Thanks for the Information.

[@nepalmadenbrand8125]

❤❤Thank a Lots The Cord❤❤

[@rosangbantawarai2630]

Kirat Rai also have lots of contribution to Sikkim why Kirat Rais are ignoring by everyone...

[@user-in1yw9ty5t]

They contributed in making Nepal like the Thapas and limbus

[@beegirls367]

Yes my thoughts too exactly.

[@bipeenleembu5985]

Limbuwan didn't surrender to Gurkhas. Prithivi Narayan Shah tried many time to conquer Limbuwan Rajya but was defeated. Seeng the bravery Prithivi Narayan Sahah decided to sign the treaty of allies between limbu people and Gurkhas. After the treaty was made Limbus and other many indigenous peoples were sent to British Armed Forces for battel.

[@tirmairakihda]

Limbu are brave but don't compare them with gorkha.

[@gajinhangsrong]

Thank you

[@ashfaqansari7677]

I have a limbu friend here in bagdogra, I showed this video to his father. Amazing analysis. He is a former secretary of some yakthunba associations. I don not know why some people in the comment section have problem. The topic says sikkim before chogyals, how can supreme court verdict come here lollz. Uncle said this guy missed some points but he is not wrong, and the info is not misleading. Par tum log ka kaam hi hai sayad log ka galti nikalna. Itna video me itna info dena bhi bahut hai, agar galat lagta hai to khud video banao lolz. Koi kaam karega wo tumlog dekh hi nahi sakega aur khud kucu nahi karna tabhi tum log peeche reh jata hai. Anywayz, I want to request cord to go in details about siliguri too. Too much road construction happening flyover and all which is creating displacement of lot of peopoe amd businesses. Throw some light into this matter if u could. Thnks.

[@sumitchettri7905]

We are just sharing information. No any problem bro.

[@akaziaku1762]

Where in bagdogra??? I'm from bagdogra too

[@sangamsubba9770]

Lol you're totally right.. 💯

[@pratikking2272]

Magars are definity the descandants of Genjhis khan. However, they eventually converted to Hinduism and mixed with Indo- Aryan tribues such as Khas and Tharus that lived in western middle and southern Nepal. Nowdays, Magars often look like Half Indians. The Sens on the other hand were Bengalis and had close connections with Khas, Madhesi and Newar tribes. During the time of the Sens, Kapalis, Mali, Malakar migrated from Bengal to Kathmandu valley.

[@srgplay4526]

​@@pratikking2272Mo magar ho ra pani mo half Indians jastai dekhdina tah😂. Sabai lay sodhai garek huncha kata bata aako vanera😂.

[@tarmitlepcha4604]

The original inhabitants has always been "THE LEPCHAS"

[@Kishngajurel]

Not only lepchas, mangars and limbus

[@tarmitlepcha4604]

@@Kishngajurel initially it was the "LEPCHAS"

[@rajivsarmah8413]

@@tarmitlepcha4604 it's not possible to determine who lives first lepcha or limboo. Cuz limboo r descendent r kirat called by indo Aryan towards people of east himalaya in Mahabharat era. N limboo have more population than lepcha in himalaya area. Limboo r mixed of kirat( earliest of east himalaya ), Tibbetan lepcha. N kirat section of limboo r first settler of sikkim( considering west Sikkim was limboo dominated n some parts of Nepal too under sikkim at that time ), followed by lepcha, magar. If magar of Sikkim did not migrated from today's nepal but those of Nepal had migrated through todays sikkim route after coming from tibbet before Buddhism went to tibbet , it can be possible magar might be earlier than lepcha in Sikkim considering its time of existence in Nepal ( second oldest after kirati in today's nepal )

[@tarmitlepcha4604]

@@rajivsarmah8413 you aren't even sure who were the first one's. Well you need to do some deep digging about the history of sikkim , only then come and write this long . And yaa just because the population of a caste is dominant doesn't mean they were the first settlers !!!

[@rajivsarmah8413]

@@tarmitlepcha4604 i have told from many facts. I did not take only population. By this logic magar have 17 lakhs in Nepal, limboo have 3. 5 lakhs only. N 2 lakhs in india. Lepchas population only 1. 5 lakhs in Sikkim, darjeeling, nepal. I have mentioned kirat theory too. Eastern himayalaya ( todays east nepal, sikkim, west bhutan ) was historically known as kirat area in many Hindu scriptures from thousand yrs. Limboo, rai, yakkha, dhimal, bodo r their descendent. Bodo migrated towards todays assam. Lepcha r absolute native of Sikkim cuz their 80 pc homeland falls in todays sikkim , darjeeling. Limboos homeland falls in Nepal more n some in Sikkim, darjeeling. But there is big chance they existed in today's sikkim before lepcha came from somewhere after splitting from some tribe. Just cuz more limboo lives in east nepal , one cannot say they existed in Sikkim after lepcha. Thats what i have said. One can only say this tribe ( lepcha, limboo ) is one of earliest tribe of Sikkim not earliest.

[@winx6796]

Wow... Learnt so many new things from ur vid about Sikkim... Really interesting and informative ❤️👍

[@pinkeysubba4950]

Thank you 🙏

[@dechenbhutia1347]

I like his last line "Itihaas ko jana jaroori hay,samajna jaroori hay lekin itihaas mein he rehay jana Galat hay" Past mein kisnay rule Kiya,kisnay kya Kiya.. kya nehi Kiya is not important abhi present mein sab kaisay milkay rethay hay yeh important Hai..because Sikkim Kay Har ek ghar may inter caste marriage Hota hay bhutia Kay ghar may lepcha..Nepali. Nepali Kay ghar Mey Bhutia.lepcha son in law, daughter in law milay ga so kya in past Kay history ko lay Kar ab ghar ghar may hi war start Kar dhay. It's good to know about your history but to start or create communal disturbance is not good..

[@Tobiraaaama]

It is because BL have more rights in 371f clause because of history..If not ,u would have also indulge in history only

[@mountainspeace192]

Guru padmasambhava travelled through Sikkim from 7/8th century and with him were also followers from Tibet including the wife of Tibetan king TrisungDuechen . known as Khandro Yeshe Tsogyal who later was considered the mother of Tibetan Buddhism . Guru Padmasambhva meditated in many places in Sikkim with his Tibetan followers and most prominent being the 4 impt caves of Sikkim which is in 4 cardinal direction with respect to Tashiding Monastery . Sikkimese limbos came into picture only after 1642 with the wife of the 2nd king tensing namgyal from limbuwan .please do more research sir .

[@bhaktabdrtamang5805]

Nice explanations. It confirms Lomboos,Magars (called tribes of Gurkhas since 1816) are original inhabitants of Sikkim. And current Kalimpong Dooars are parts of Sikkim too just as Darjeeling Dooars.

[@rosangbantawarai2630]

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[@deliverydriver8226]

@@bhaktabdrtamang5805 what is meaning of derjeling.

[@theempress4920]

@@bhaktabdrtamang5805 so whose land is it

[@bramstokes7156]

​@@bhaktabdrtamang5805 yes guru padsambhava was magar limbu gorkha.

[@bishalpun7041]

Love from nepal ❤️🇳🇵 And thank you so much for information and I am also mangar(Magar)

[@pemaadenmoo7710]

Yes very true history, we r proud of Lepcha 🙏

[@biswashchamling3518]

Eastern Nepal's dominant tribes are Rais ...on the map of grater Sikkim Rais homeland also included...Like today's Dhankuta, Sankhuwasabha all over arun valley are inhabited by Rai people... So according to greater Sikkim Rais are also ancient Tribes of Sikkimeese origin... Magars are came later from west of Nepal migrate to East Nepal to Sikkim ...but eastern region are the land of Kiratis from thousands yrs... Therefore Rais are more ancient indigenous then Magars

[@lotusman992]

Sikkim was the part of limbuwan of nepal. when gorkha kingdom wake up to make greater Nepal it peoples are go to sikkim lived there. And make little kingdom between limbu lepchas and bhutia.

[@Puspa-qq6vq]

Do you have any evidence?? Magars have plenty of evidence that they were one of the tribes in ancient sikkim.

[@alphathapa4857]

Yeah bro fight for the might

[@alphathapa4857]

@@Puspa-qq6vq chanting the names of magardzongs will be enough

[@biswashchamling3518]

@@Puspa-qq6vq historically eastern region are land of Kirati people Magars original homeland are located in western Nepal ......... Magars came to East Nepal to Sikkim very later... with sen rulers and Shah rulers they are involved army force'of Sen and Shah Gurkha kingdom... during the time of unification of Nepal .... Cultural and linguistically Magars original culture and traditions only found in different districts of western Nepal ...Magars house architecture are different then sikkimse Nepali house architecture... sikkimse house architecture are mostly Eastern Kirati tribal Limbu and Rai architectural design... there is no any original house architecture of Magars found in sikkim....the truth is Magars original culture traditions are located in West of Nepal .

[@shailrai279]

Do a research on the kirati people.🙏🙏

[@kaiii126]

Thank you for your research 🙏it's much needed