The Finn Mckenty Situation is Confusing

[@danframpt0n]

today's the day, babe. Whatcha gon' do?

[@murzburg1575]

Damn Daniel... I have really grown to love your content, respect your critique, and I praise your skill in the satirical space. I'm just an old, washed up punk rock dad now, so I love seeing you give a shit. Here's to your passion! Pröst!

[@astrowerm]

This was a good video dude, love the call to action too!

[@TheChadTI]

​@@murzburg1575Also old punk (glam/goth punk) yeah idig this guy. He's good. 🤙

[@Sicecho]

​@@murzburg1575about what exactly? What is this video even about?

[@howdisturbing]

@@Sicecho It's a troll being angry that his subject was mature enough to ignore him.

[@altrogeruvah]

Why did Finn McKenty quit KZbin? Allow me to spend the next 18 minutes explaining how I might have spent 5 years incessantly bullying this person for self gain, assume I'll look good coming out of this while still and completely reconfirming the very reason why people are quitting this wasteland in droves

[@Sicecho]

Real talk

[@PM-vv3uc]

Narcissism seems to be quite the shit in the US right now,

[@danerutherford9964]

Yeah, when he was going on the tangent about "I was just playing a CHARACTER, why you mad bro?" he lost me.

[@mywifeisgoingtokillme9318]

How does a person have a punk channel, but has never even talked about aus rotten, rattus , disclose, warthog once

[@Uninterested69420]

@@altrogeruvah exactly

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

For some reason, the KZbin algorithm suggested this video of a guy dressed as a garden Gnome wondering where a dude I've never heard is has gone. I'm in the dark part of KZbin.

[@Sicecho]

Thank you

[@a.jherbert5436]

Welcome to metal and hardcore youtube. Would you like some Knocked Loose, or Lorna Shore?

[@Sicecho]

@a.jherbert5436 ooo I saw Lorna shore at the palladium upstairs in Worcester they were fucking amazing... and they had no merch ... no cds.. just like a couple shirts.. but man they done came up

[@PM-vv3uc]

And he barely even talks about the question in the video title. What a loser. And I don't even like Mr Mckenty.

[@SamHewittmusic]

So u bullied someone u once idolized and pushed him off a platform for your own personal gain. while basically doing his exact schtick.... bro. u talk about being self-aware, but this isn't it.

[@danframpt0n]

Weird take lol

[@Sicecho]

Yeh i mean this guy needs to get a life Dan I mean

[@gualt6762]

Yeah this videos sucks ass

[@jakejonas7366]

It’s weird to make repeated videos for an entire year or more shitting on someone and claiming your toxic behavior is just a character you invented because you don’t like someone. What a ridiculous excuse for treating Finn and then claiming he has a few screws loose while admitting you leeched off a bigger KZbinr solely for views and subs etc. totally agree with you here man, I like some of dans videos but this makes petty look like gold.

[@Sicecho]

@@jakejonas7366 I love youtube and I love people that post the vids for my enjoyment... but at the same time this shit is toxic... I mean this guy really thinks he's something while he's talking shit and probably living in his mom's basement

[@hclyrics]

Finn McKenty got way too comfortable talking about things he knew nothing about.

[@readbooks6058]

He was always hating on the Deftones, than they had a resurgence and he started glazing them…

[@neolbioldey]

​@@readbooks6058don't remember him hating the Deft Ones or glazing them. I always remember him just saying they were mid and overrated

[@anachronismrecords4359]

For a chanel called the punkrock mba it seems sometimes that he didn't knew much about punkrock. At least not much more, then wikipedia told someone.

[@johnnyj5908]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@readbooks6058]

@@neolbioldey first they’re mid and overrated and next he’s making videos about them without mentioning all the shade he was directing towards them and their fans… I remember it clearly.

[@shanesmith2853]

I think Trump picked him to be the new head of the Department of Internet Drollery 😴

[@danframpt0n]

Lmaoooo trruuuu

[@hclyrics]

I wasn't aware Trump was appointing people to positions they were qualified for.

[@oldmanfivetimes]

@@hclyrics right? Cause the Fox News guy! He has no idea what he’s doing he was never in the military for decades or earned Bronze stars. Wait he did. But Elon.. oh wait. If Trump picks any body for any job there’s gonna be a reason. Even if you’re being told there isn’t. Not to get political but I keep seeing people talking out their ass without researching.

[@plaguedoctor4519]

If this organization title had one more "D" word in it and a "Y" word..... That be an interesting abbreviation...

[@diplenski]

i think his twitch clips channel gives a bit better picture of his personality and sense of humor. many criticisms of his main channel are fair/valid, and he's been upfront about feeling kinda burnt out on it. he's also pretty open and self-aware of the fact that he rubs people the wrong way at times. but the kinda dry/sarcastic/asshole sense of humor is familiar and i can appreciate it, he never strikes me as malicious.

[@danframpt0n]

His 2nd channel had a bit more authenticity for sure

[@Christcorepunkfan]

@@danframpt0ntbh I mainly only watch the second channel

[@NOISEONOMICON]

3:04 you are not likeable as well

[@danframpt0n]

lmao that's like just your opinion or whatever

[@NOISEONOMICON]

@@danframpt0n maybe, personally it was for certain video that you was way too negative against the swell cute nice musician called GG Allin... yes, it offended me lol

[@bloodstripe20]

I didn't realize he disappeared tbh

[@davesimpson5185]

Me neither, he sucks.

[@Christcorepunkfan]

@@davesimpson5185I think he is pretty funny tbh

[@2011dsc]

Never heard of you before.

[@megmcguigan3857]

Goth and post-punk are both huge right now and he would refuse to cover them and then complain about the state of rock music. I'm 53 and he acts like he's in his 60's or something. His mistake was focusing on mostly old bands.

[@danframpt0n]

Excellent point

[@FranDurstYeah]

There was a point in time where he was praising the underground and the youth, but he realized that if he grifted against that, the hate-attention could pile up. Now he's drunk his own kool aid and become the old man yelling at cloud that he once defied.

[@danielsmokesmids]

@@FranDurstYeahthat really sucks. im 18 and hes actually the one who put me on to Sematary before tiktok found him. my favorite part of his channel was the way he respected all kinds of music.

[@jennywarren]

When he did the Tyler video, it was perfect

[@Whocares1987]

He’s said 90’s butt rock was the only things that got views but it’s bs

[@lordvlygar2963]

He's been very open and honest about how burnt out he is from doing music stuff all the time. He mentioned that his channel was originally for whatever he wanted to do and the music stuff is what brought the views. He is a business man, literally. That MBA in his channel name is not a joke. That's what he really wants to do with his KZbin account and I am all ready to follow him should he decide to go that direction. Why did you feel the need to ride the drama coattails to gain views? You didn't need to start shit. You have enough of your own style to be a KZbin name without the antagonizing.

[@Emunz]

Everything he writes is interesting. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he explains why he says it and does it well. I know he hates the sergeant d stuff, but he hooked me back then and I’ve been interested in anything he touched since then. I’m sure he’s got work and things to take up his time, but if he starts doing public content again, I’m right there with you.

[@operationalbattlestation5477]

It’s a shame. I see a lot of people hate him apparently but he was one of the like 5 KZbinrs who I actually looked forward to watching and by far my favorite music related channel because his taste was the closest to my own

[@edneragnarok]

Why do you care so much about Finn?

[@Sicecho]

Thank you exactly what's this guy's problem

[@michaelbashford2733]

He doesn't care about Finn, Dan only cares about his own inflated ego and trying to justify his shitty behaviour.

[@Sicecho]

@@michaelbashford2733 facts

[@machineelfsteve2971]

seems like he's just desperately trying to get views.

[@Sicecho]

@machineelfsteve2971 I like you man yer a real one kinda like judge judy .. you see through bull crap

[@nerfherderMS]

I am never getting back the 3 minutes I watched of this. Everything about this is a waste of everyone's time. Including this comment.

[@jtkappy7742]

Just the other day I was thinking i hadn’t heard about Finn mckenty In a long time

[@danframpt0n]

not looking good for our boy lmao

[@kiethveseyofficial]

@@danframpt0nOr holding off until December and January arrive, since the views during this period can be quite disappointing.

[@Casual_Gaming5]

I remember him saying that he got more views when he talked about the Wikipedia stuff and got less views and mostly "hate" comments when he talked about anything new

[@brucesmith5992]

This is like watching McLovin brag about bullying somebody. I feel like you had way less of an impact than you think it did

[@danframpt0n]

Bad faith take

[@PaleWolfCenLa]

He covers old bands and old styles and thats exactly what i want to hear. I genuinely dont enjoy any modern metal or rock bands that came out after 2010ish. I love the old way and thats what he talks about.

[@Bevtone]

Any? Like at all? Not even gizz?

[@Chaz4543]

He's done rants about how he covers old bands and old styles because that's what his viewers want and they want to hear about the music they listened to in high school.

[@kiethveseyofficial]

@@BevtoneIn general, the majority of modern bands fall on a range of being either jerks, oddballs with allegations (I'm looking at you pop-punk) or simply incredibly dull.

[@maxonmendel5757]

missing out man

[@PaleWolfCenLa]

@maxonmendel5757 I really try. None of it makes me feel anything, though. It's the same with movies and TV shows. If you can recommend anything that maybe I haven't found I'd be forever grateful

[@richardpell]

You made a video implying he's a groomer in the thumbnail and he was upset about that. Who could have foreseen this?

[@danframpt0n]

Weird take fella

[@sergioromanomunoz8155]

When he tried talking about newish stuff, like emo rap or hyperpop, those videos crashed down terribly. I followed him since he was like 30k, and I really liked his initial take, talking about acts and why they worked the way they did. He even had some advice on how to make the algorythm work on social media. He even tried to make interviews but that didn't work either, so he pivoted on making his podcast. He really never denied he was reduced to read Wikipedia on his channel and that he didn't find it very fulfilling, but the truth is that he had mostly an audience of Millenials that grew up on pop punk, emo, metalcore, nu metal and butt rock, so he relied on those 35 year olds.

[@TheCondorjc]

Consider myself a naive sheltered soyboy but you look like you’re 16 years old Not a borderline middle aged dude

[@andrewjacobs5579]

Sounds like you're the one with mental issues saying you're lying to get views & money.

[@danframpt0n]

Try listening

[@PM-vv3uc]

@@danframpt0n "I am not lying to get views - I am just playing a character!"

[@howdisturbing]

@@danframpt0n Nope, he's right. That's pretty much what you said. This video didn't go how you planned, huh?

[@alleycatmoralist]

Working on his dissertation and coming back as The Punk Rock, Phd

[@danframpt0n]

Lmao! That's incredible

[@jakejonas7366]

Hope he actually listens to punk outside of bands from the 80s and earlier. There has been punk bands that weren’t around to play on Gilman or CBGBs.

[@kaylee6208]

I used to watch his stuff when it was suggested, but would always find myself disliking a lot of his takes, then realized pretty much everyone disliked him which helped me feel validated. Something the punk scene can all unite around is not liking Finn. Also don't hate me, but since I never really followed him enough to remember his channel name, for the longest time I'd see your videos and have to think, "wait, is this the dude I don't like or no?" anyway, finally making 3 hour gang!

[@danframpt0n]

3 hour gang 4 life! Hell yeah.

[@KrytoRift]

Yeah he sucked

[@zappasmoustache23]

I only ever saw one of his videos and instantly thought he was clueless. Good to know it wasn’t just me.

[@ether_sect]

Naw, he's right on most everything. He has long true roots in the scene.

[@KrytoRift]

@ether_sect he's a poser

[@Purplepentapus_]

Pretty much all of your advice is stuff that he has already tried. He's explained on numerous occasions that he feels incredibly pigeonholed by his audience who only ever wants to hear about 20+ year old bands. Any time he *tries* to talk about new rock and metal, current events in the rock scene, pop music or anything else like that, his audience gets mad at him and his views drop. And has said that as someone with a wife and child, he feels beholden to creating the content that his audience demands because he needs the money to take care of his family. The topics he was actually passionate about weren't making him the money he needed, so he was basically trapped

[@mediumvillain]

He also said the topics he's passionate about are like, business school shit

[@diplenski]

even jokingly implying somebody is a groomer is not cool. people need to mind their business about age gaps between consenting adults. not to say they can't be problematic, they certainly can, but it's not really your place as a stranger to pass judgement. if they're happy good for them.

[@danframpt0n]

Thanks for the morality check

[@redduskironsky1058]

@@danframpt0n We know you are trash, good on you for owning it though...again...why KZbin?

[@jackknifesociety7154]

Dude this video sucks so hard😂

[@danframpt0n]

Elaborate

[@derfgerps4016]

No no he’s making shit up if he’s trying to say this was a character he should actually mention it in his videos. If he wanted people to know that they would, bro was baiting people and thought he could go unscathed and is crying wolf.

[@danframpt0n]

L. Anyone who's been with the channel knows the arcs

[@Wreckageforever]

@@danframpt0n It's not the 17k subscribers who watch all your videos that you need to worry about, its all the people who see maybe one or 2 of your videos, including the groomer one, that don't know the arc.

[@derfgerps4016]

@@danframpt0n do you mean your videos? I’ve only seen a few of yours. Your channel is better than Finn’s though

[@reneegilbert9110]

Sooo you trolled him and got upset he didn’t respond back the way you wanted him to respond?? I’m confused? You played internet trolling games and wanted clout from his response but he didn’t move the way you wanted him to move , so now you’ve been on his neck ever since? lol

[@RlyehRamon]

If that's what you got from this, you are a div.

[@reneegilbert9110]

@ sure buddy lol or I could be an actual adult and know better then to make childish “edgy” troll videos and expect everyone to get the “joke” lmaoo

[@TravisPastramee]

This guy obviously gets most of his views by putting the Punk Rock MBA in his titles and tags. That's all this is. The sad sad state of KZbin. He saw how much his views jumped with the first one and has been chasing the dragon ever since.

[@Sicecho]

@@TravisPastramee thank you real talk

[@PM-vv3uc]

@@TravisPastramee this guy is the epitome of what is going wrong with KZbin these days. I mean with USA too by the way. It's just a huge shit show now and nobody has a backbone anymore.

[@get_me_the_bonesaw3029]

About 4 years ago he made a big deal about never doing band histories because there's a million other channels that do that.... Then he started doing band histories

[@Sicecho]

What are you even talking about... clout chasing

[@danframpt0n]

Bad take Jones. Open your ears ya jabroni

[@Sicecho]

@@danframpt0n there's nothing in this video... we all know and love and are sometimes annoyed by punk rock mba.. Finn isn't accurate all the time but WTF IS THIS VIDEO EVEN ABOUT???

[@blvckno_1]

I’ve found him to be problematic the entire time

[@danframpt0n]

That is entirely fair

[@blvckno_1]

@@danframpt0n like I get you were playing a character, and that’s fair but I’ve always gone out of my way to gatekeep people that are “older” talking down to people the way he’s done his entire KZbin career, like yeah dude we get it, you had some interactions with the dudes in spazz. We all don’t need to be talked down to because you think you have your ear to the ground. Idk I’m a hater I’ll go ahead and say it. I don’t care, as someone that can’t make good content either myself I get how hard it can be, but his personality he portrays as some wise elder always made me cringe and gave me the creeps.

[@kristoferscott3373]

@@blvckno_1The dude doesn’t even have his ear to the ground though. He misses the mark so much of the time, considering his knowledge of topics is only surface level.

[@blvckno_1]

@ big facts!

[@Nickr3000]

The moment I completely checked out of him was when someone in the live chat said something about the band Highly Suspect and he said he had never heard of them even though not even 6 months probably before that he referenced them in a video referring to their career and it's trajectory.

[@xboxnation2854]

Had to show up for the finn mckenty hate

[@danframpt0n]

Hahaha

[@Uninterested69420]

Bruh, of course he was mad for you making those kinds of claims it can really ruin someone's life You're in the wrong with that choice

[@danframpt0n]

I didn't make the claims lol. Open ur ears. There's a huge difference

[@Uninterested69420]

@danframpt0n well, you ran with them. Even if you mentioned the claims are alleged, some idiots on here can take your dumb words as gospel and ruin a man's reputation over baseless claims

[@Sicecho]

Totally agree

[@howdisturbing]

@@danframpt0n The video is titled EVERYONE HATES FINN MCKENTY. You've made a claim before a click even happens.

[@Uninterested69420]

@howdisturbing exactly lol bro stopped replying as well💀

[@davidcoffman321]

Wow this is really cringe. Finn never deserved your bullshit

[@danframpt0n]

Lol, I took ownership and removed the videos. What else do u want from me bro lmao.

[@Themetalwookie666]

We got rid of Finn. Now to bully Fantano off the platform.

[@big3ye378]

Seemed like for a punk rock mba he didnt have much time for underground music... and as someone a bit younger who grew up in the same area as him I feel like he could have covered a lot of the aweesome bands coming out of washingtonton in the 90s and even early 2000s. Not sure what the point of this video was... well obviously using the unusual disappearance of a larger creator to get views and vaugely insinuating an apology and alleging you may be at fault somewhat. All the fencewalking is super gay

[@aliceangel03]

Dislike how he invited Blaire White onto his podcast, that really turned me the wrong way...

[@danframpt0n]

That was pretty cringe

[@danielsmokesmids]

he did??? this is honestly sad. i used to watch him a lot in my early teen years and now he’s just another anti-woke grifter

[@jamesgentry13]

Finn being a conservative grifter for a while now. Also enjoys sucking Ronnie Radke cock

[@BrainWasherAttendent]

@@danielsmokesmidslmao. Yeah cuz being woke is so cool.

[@Christcorepunkfan]

@@danielsmokesmidsmakes me like him more tbh…

[@ivanooze8500]

Aww, hope he is ok. He deserved to be trolled a bit tough, he trived on bait and getting fans upset 😅

[@danframpt0n]

Exactly. I thought if he could dish it, he could take it. I was wrong

[@danielsmokesmids]

i just hope he keeps his head down and makes good content. too old to be getting involved in internet drama

[@jamesgentry13]

​​@@danframpt0n the way he shits on genres like Black metal Emo and Ska

[@neolbioldey]

​@@jamesgentry13emo? Isn't he a fan of emo?

[@jamesgentry13]

@neolbioldey no he shits on it. He hates all the 2000s bands are still around.

[@drivelikejoewho]

You're just as judgemental and neurotic as him. So am I.

[@SecretSocietyofGoths]

i was wondering what happened to his goofy ass

[@danframpt0n]

he poofed

[@SecretSocietyofGoths]

@danframpt0n finn mckenty is the Corey Feldman of internet music bros

[@clamum9648]

I've watched his videos for years and like them. 🤷‍♂️ I'm not shocked he didn't care for people calling him a "groomer" that's hardly "lol just a joke bro." As far as his "redpill" or "capitalism isn't bad" takes, I like it; I find it funny a group/subculture that pretends it's so open-missed is anything but.

[@TheJoshuaadamwalker]

I’m going old schoo because Finn is stuck in the past so he gets the 90s ultimate insult, Finn is a poser.

[@danframpt0n]

Lol

[@Chaz4543]

Do you even watch his channel ? He hates talking about the past and only does it because it gets more views.

[@ApotheosiZ]

I'm not subscribed to either channel & both pop up in my feed from time to time, but joke or not - calling someone a groomer is fighting words. Lol

[@danframpt0n]

Thing is, i didn't call him a groomer. It was a Twitter reaction where i reacted to OTHER PEOPLE calling him that. How are yall missing this lol

[@ApotheosiZ]

@danframpt0n the way you worded it didn't sound like that, BUT it's more so the implications of those words/sentiments. We live in a world where it's very hard to prove innocence (as well as convict someone who is guilty) when called something like that. Once something like that is out there, it never goes away, joke or not. Look at someone like Johnny Depp. He's been acquitted & proven innocent, but in some people's eyes, he's forever an abuser & his reputation is still tarnished.

[@humblemudgames]

@@ApotheosiZ @danframpt0n Yeah, that whole situation of you calling him out just makes you look bad & weirdly obsessed with him. Ragebaiting is such a short-sided approach to making content. If I were him, I would've reacted the same way to someone making crazy videos about me like that. If no one gets the joke, your satire isn't good satire.

[@datsk8terboi377]

I think it was for the best that he quit, he is more interested in business than music anyways, he only started to talk about rock because it got him views, it seems to me that he grew out of rock, punk and metal a long time ago, even if he started making content about new bands it wouldn't get him that many views (he himself said that about his videos of Suicides Boys, Hyperpop and Tyler the Creator) his audience only cares for legacy bands, besides he is not suited for being a public figure he doesn't like any kind of negative attention and it takes a toll on him. Despite all of that im glad that his channel exist, i discovered a bunch of new music and learn some insights about music business, i wish him the best.

[@PM-vv3uc]

Now only this youtuber here has to quit then we're done and happy.

[@hookback]

How many videos you have made? You really have a hard-on for Finn.

[@offthecufff]

im about to pick up the slack here and start making videos against him 😈

[@danframpt0n]

Hahaha i appreciate that

[@afrolund80]

I might have some disagreements with the guy. But contrary to what his haters think. I think he does have some valuable insight. It's just been a while since I've found any on his channel. Can't remember the last time I clicked on one of his videos.

[@danframpt0n]

When he tries, he can put out good stuff. Even if I disagree, he used to put in more effort and thought

[@852aaron]

i dont particularly like finn, i dont often agree with his takes so i have no skin in this game but what about people who dont bother to watch your video or dont pay attention to the part where you say that hes 'not' a groomer. what if people just see the thumbnail? what about the deluded and stupid that your 'satire' acts as a dog whistle for. in that position i would ask you to take it down and leave me alone too and i would not dress up and dance for your manufactured youtube drama. not everyone is that degenerated and content brained. seems like his big dm that you speak dismissively of was an attempt to communicate that difference. to which you decided to go 'even harder'. you even said you suspected he wasnt mentally stable and you decided to go harder? gross. did we learn nothing from the etika situation?

[@jamisonlamkin5576]

Who's Etika?

[@852aaron]

@@jamisonlamkin5576 he was a content creator who passed in 2019. google the name if you want to know further details but i feel weird about trying to summarise someone's whole life/passing in a youtube reply, i don't want to be disrespectful or callous.

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

I was subbed to both of his channels for a while, saw one of his early videos and liked the format. Eventually the essays got stale and his livestreams were funny, but his chat would kind of influence him to act a certain way, and he'd just start having bad takes and playing off the chat. Chats get toxic, and it rubbed off on him so he started getting a bit more negative than he would be without the chat. It also became apparent that he was a bit more conservative in his views than I thought, so that also kind of pushed me away. I'm too woke, I guess. I thought that KZbin had just stopped recommending me his videos after being unsubscribed for a while, I didn't know he actually stopped uploading. I'm sure I heard him say that when he talks about anything other than old metal bands, his viewers tune out, but like, make the content you want to make. Some of your fanbase will drop off, certain people like myself were bound to drop off anyways, just talk about/ do the things you like and people with the same passions will come along for the ride. And on the topic of playing a character, I love pro wrestling too, but never assume. Never assume that people are in on the joke, you'll have to tell people outright, and even then some people still won't get it, but that's their problem at that point. It looks like you've figured this out, we all do eventually. 😅

[@jamisonlamkin5576]

I noticed that too, in videos he had with the chat, he seemed more vicious and mean-spirited.

[@JoeFuller-h6c]

Sounds like you were bullying him, which is a crime tbh

[@Sicecho]

Exactly messed up

[@11Ender11]

Idk Finn comes off pretty chill and self aware from where I stand. Now Fantano comes off incredibly pompous with a semi Stan like fan base that would die for him.

[@bananarama480]

Never heard of Mr. McKenty, but I'm here for Dan talking to us about him. 😊

[@danframpt0n]

Really? That makes me so happy haha. Thank u for joining the conversation :)

[@CinFireball]

Oh, the fun we had on Live doing Bingo against Finn!! 🎉😹

[@djentile7773]

Straight to your face "with a really bad take"

[@tylerthacher1612]

Dude, love how hard you would go on Finny the Wife Groomer and his wanna be punk info. It was your channel that saved my soul and brought me back before corporate soul sucking claimed me.

[@danframpt0n]

Hahaha happy to help

[@trumpleforeskin]

Arrogance is a shallow pool to work from so... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@danframpt0n]

Lol fair point

[@GaughanGirl77]

Oh damn Finn Mckenty is gone? Thanks for the good news! 😂

[@diplenski]

yeah you have been kinda mean and uncharitable. he seems like a decent dude. i like his second channel, the twitch clips

[@danframpt0n]

Thanks, deiplenski. really adding to the conversation here lol

[@chapter_black3234]

He has had very particular interests growing up and was of a generation where the cultural overlap was not as typical for social and cultural reasons. He can talk about the history of punk and metal, but he doesn't seem to have a great ear to judge modern bands. He was much more into the emo rap trend for whatever reason that many wouldn't understand. It is just giving unk energy

[@oliverbock5659]

Finn McKenty is really a strange character, came over his channel to yours, maybe the only good thing that happened. Your outfit today reminds me of the belgian band Gnome.

[@danframpt0n]

Lmao I see it

[@yo-sefakimbey7009]

I had my grievance, but I guess i just don't understand all the hate for the guy

[@DonaldBermudez-k6u]

Danny boy, you just unironically said that Finn needs to be current, and a good example of being current is discussion LINKIN FUCKING PARK the band that was formed in1996 before you were seemingly born and its original singer is gone? WTF lol that is hilarious whether or not intentional. Thank you for that.

[@neotheone6796]

This is exactly like the scene in Incredibles where the kid couldn’t be a hero got in his feelings and spent his entire life trying to be a superhero too🤣 Dude spent a year critiquing someone with no talent critiquing people with actual talent welcome to YT where it’s Reactor eat Reactor out here But it was entertaining at least

[@darrylax3311]

Wait... Ruthless Gatekeeper was a character? *mind blown*

[@danframpt0n]

Hahahaha

[@trashcanjam]

lol

[@svmmyb0i220]

I like this growth you're showing man, the antagonistic character was getting a little much even for me for a while, and it's good to see in hindsight you realise you probably went a little far. Keep on keeping on dude 🤘

[@danframpt0n]

Appreciate u saying that dude. Thank u

[@RlyehRamon]

Finn is the least punk rock man on earth

[@Benlovescheese]

Tbh your advice to Finn actually seems rlly good. If he does the right research and not just Wikipedia browsing, might actually watch Finn mcKenty, and the Finn mcKenty is over party will be an over party.

[@danframpt0n]

It would be awesome for the audience to have access to both mine and his takes on current music happenings. We'd differ so much that it could make for good conversations

[@Randomjackass135]

Starting the clock now for his rebrand as a political commentator ⏲️

[@ChrisHarnessTV]

Apparently he just never quit his regular day job, so he doesn’t necessarily need to keep doing youtube. Also one of his gripes was that he tried on many occasions to talk about current/new bands, and/or other genres he likes, but his own audience either game him so much shit for, and/or those videos just never did well with views (ie didn’t make good money) so he decided that the only way for him to make a living off of KZbin was to just crank out generic videos essays about Butt Rock and Metal bands. But I agree that he should talk about what he wants, if he actually enjoys it, and if his audience just doesn’t like it then oh well that’s just how it goes. But he is very capitalistic, so if the videos aren’t going to do well, then it’s pointless to spend the time and energy making them.

[@bdr113080]

He and another KZbinr actually did talk about what you said about “hey there is a today happening” and you’re right, but he also made a very good point. Nobody really cares about modern bands. How many bands that have come out in the last five years can you make a KZbin video about? That’s going to get you 100,000 views? Not many. Which goes onto something else that he’s made videos about which is rock music whether it’s metal or pour hard rock or whatever, it’s dying it really is. Yes, there are new bands coming out, but you have to have bigger bands to get people into bands that aren’t as big. Without bands like Metallica, Ozzy Osbourne, Korn, Megadeth, Rob Zombie, Iron Maiden, Slipknot, Guns N Roses etc. then you’re not going to get people into less mainstream bands. When all of the legends that are left today like Metallica and Slipknot retire, bands aren’t really going to be able to play in front of big crowds unless they do these big festivals that don’t tour. You know the big three day festivals that have three times as many bands that you can actually watch? That’s gonna be the only way most of them play anything bigger than a club show. And yes, I know it’s very cool in the world of rock music to not have money but if you don’t have money, you can tour. We probably in our lifetime going to see rock music become regional. How are you supposed to tour the country if everyone in the band works 89 to 5 job? So at some point after you’ve covered all of the bands, that will actually get people to click on the videos yes, I know the technical brutal death metal band that moved all of three units with their last release might be somebody’s favorite band, but if it only gets you 900 views, you just did a lot of work for nothing .

[@Chaz4543]

There's too many modern bands and not enough fans. You try to turn someone on to a modern band and they say "oh I dont like that style or subgenre". Theres too many subgenres out there to gets millions of people to like it all. Its niche and underground for a reason just because you cant get everyone to agree that they like it.

[@jamesgentry13]

Finn is the ultimate elitist gate keeper

[@Whocares1987]

Which is ironic because he constantly makes fun of those people

[@ryanpaul1403]

@@Whocares1987Corey Feldman > Deathspell Omega

[@yicama2098]

I started disliking him once he shamed me live for an opinion I made towards his complaining. I don’t think the dude has it in him anymore.

[@danframpt0n]

You can always complain about my complaining! I welcome it

[@AustinD1993]

That's the risk you take when you jump in someone's live chat and comment your opinion on a creators behavior lol

[@TravelatorH8r]

He only likes hardcore. He's afraid of the high art of post punk. You'll never here him talk bout the wire or the fall.

[@oops6876]

As someone in the local Seattle scene, I never once saw him at a show

[@danframpt0n]

Sad

[@tomasjonsson7141]

I just find him super boring and dull and depresing all he does is sit and complain about music just like that other dude become the knight whos just as anoying and whiny they just feed of negativity.

[@Justice4Canaan]

So you are a troll...fair enough

[@BloodSpilledInk]

Honestly, I’m personally a big fan of your videos about Skramz/Screamo but I discovered you for the Finn Mckenty videos, so in a way it was a good thing you made those videos because without them I wouldn’t have discovered your awesome videos about the state of Skramz.

[@danframpt0n]

Ayo 🖤

[@joblins3753]

i always thought of him as a washed up poser but the final nail in the coffin for me was when he called system of a down "generic." they are many things, but generic is just objectively false.

[@jamisonlamkin5576]

That stood out to me too.

[@noparkingnoparking]

nobody is impressed bro, leave everyone alone and make content about something other than yourself

[@biblicaladrian6007]

Just realizing he hasn't uploaded in a few months I enjoyed some of his rise and falls vids

[@williamwiseman8939]

Finn has a wife and a kid, try taking a page from his book and idk maybe get a life? Nah, you'll just keep making bad videos talking about the guy. Good luck with that.

[@southwestxnorthwest]

This is gay. Why do KZbinrs have to beef with each other all the time?

[@jamisonlamkin5576]

You know the answer.

[@grutfrut5817]

Why do youtube viewers have to call "gay" everything they don't like ?

[@RicoWhiteEnt]

The "Ruthless Gatekeeper" is what Brug me and kept me watching this Channel. I enjoyed your Antagonistic Approach to Finn's takes (And alot other takes). Real great to see you Mature since then and also the content is still🔥

[@oscartaylor3850]

It looks like he's finnished.. I'll see myself out.

[@danframpt0n]

Hahahahaha, nah, u can stay

[@ghouliethousandtrouser2905]

His videos were always a paycheck to him first and foremost, so he might have found a bigger/more reliable source of income. He'll probably be back in a year or 2 (looking 10 years older but none the wiser) with a video titled "I made a mistake", where he talks about his bankruptcy and begs for patreon money. Then he'll be back to regularly scheduled wikipedia articles within a week. Wild speculation, sure, but "Business Finn" does feel like the logical next step.

[@danframpt0n]

Hahaha solid prediction

[@alphared4655]

Here’s the thing! He’s a cool dude. Very dry and I don’t think people get that. His main issue is he was out of touch with new shit and kept himself confined to his small fam fan base making nu metal videos ad nauseam just to keep his few hundred a day viewers and got so scared when they didn’t watch his videos about some band or something not nu metal. I hope he’s okay

[@DanPantzig]

You keep mispronouncing McKunty.

[@danframpt0n]

lmao

[@CinFireball]

It's a common mispronunciation, yanno?

[@ChadAV69]

Finn is an entrepreneur bro. He milked his channel dry and now he’s on to the next business venture. All these guys on KZbin love to act like they do it for a passion, yet as soon as they stop getting 250k views a video they start crying about the algorithm. Keep in mind, Finn thought Lil Peep, Trippie Red and MGK were the “new face of rock”. The guy’s a clown.

[@ectoplasm]

The worst thing about Finn McKenty is that I always think I'm getting a Pat Finnerty video and then I realize, oh wait, different bald guy.

[@danframpt0n]

Lol, pat is great

[@catacombkid1985]

I have to go to physical therapy but I'm FINALLY in the 3 hour gang. I'll be back ☠️

[@danframpt0n]

Hell yeah! See you then, then!

[@ministerofdarkness]

Hello Fresh must've pulled his sponsorship. If Finn gets that Metamucil fiber ad he'll be back up and running. Along with his colon.

[@michaelward5370]

I'm clearly in the minority, even though I didn't agree with a lot of his takes, I did enjoy watching both his channels!!

[@elchicharron9503]

There is no current day to talk about. Shit sucks hard now.

[@howdisturbing]

DF: Makes a whole series of videos where he trolls someone more successful than him. Also DF: ''I don't want to make video after video about him''. Again DF: Makes a video about him.

[@ericthebat7530]

McKenty is a bootlicker lmao. Thats the funniest thing about him to me. Has a whole channel called "punk rock nba" and then says hes friends with tons of cops.

[@danframpt0n]

Most of these "rock channel" on here are massive boot lickers

[@danielsmokesmids]

this is honestly not the angle i was expecting yall to take but i agree. glad this video wasnt one of those “waaa he talked about racism in the metal scene” videos, and actually rightfully criticized him

[@armandobarbarek]

I remember all that shit! RIP Ruthless Gatekeeper

[@danframpt0n]

Lmao

[@user-pj4hz4yu7q]

He openly aired grievances about his videos of topics he was interested in doing poorly. Maybe he just found a day job that he found fulfilling enough to be able to walk away from content creation. Wouldn't blame him, if that were the case. Dude just became a father in his mid 40s. I couldn't imagine that not completely flipping his entire perspective on life.

[@ether_sect]

Finn has long roots in the scene. All the haters are posers AF.

[@danframpt0n]

Oh

[@_gorezone_]

I'm sure his wife's "WOKE BAD" channel did him no favors. How embarassing!