Drama From The Green Mountain Championship Disc Golf Tournament

[@cstimko]

Pretty much every ball golf event has places for spectators to cross fairways on the par 4's and 5's. The course is pretty much impossible to navigate as a spectator without that. There are attendants to ensure that no spectators are only crossing when the action is happening past the crossing point.

[@jamesonklein9363]

Was going to say the same thing, it’s super common in ball golf 😂

[@lukdesmet1290]

Watch some cyclocross in Belgium in winter. But there are always attendants that close the passage whenever the cyclists arrive.

[@laysdong]

Yeah the issue is the DGPT being cheap as fuck as usual

[@nitrousteca]

How about instead of everyone complaining about Gannon winning, they step up and give some competition. He's just that good. Also, does anyone care what Brodie says?

[@Pie.eating.animal]

I feel that, not a fan, but a fan of competition. He showing out and he looks physically fit which translates to the mental game. Reminding me of when Paul was actively working out and it helped him stay on top. I don’t think players are taking care of the “athlete” category of their training. If people don’t step up, he gonna make disc golf competition look like a joke lol I also like that burh got that don’t f with me aura. As a young man, and as sad as this is to say, hopefully no bad adults try to get him into bad things.

[@dbzfanatic2149]

Agreed I’m not the biggest Gannon fan but right now it’s him and then everyone else

[@WingerSupreme]

Watching him in person changed my opinion on him. He makes it look so easy, but in person you really understand how incredible his game is

[@Bigmikeyj]

@@Pie.eating.animal you think Gannon looks physically fit? 😂😂

[@albetudo9313]

@@Pie.eating.animal so why isn't Ezra Aderhold winning every event then?

[@CoachTeufel13]

Fans cross the fairways of the Master's! It's going to happen. You need an attendant.

[@lfish21.]

I swear, disc golfers have never watched another sport in their life at times.

[@robrosegraphics]

Haha I was thinking the same thing. I go to Torrey Pines every year there are a bunch of places you have to cross the fairway

[@untrustworthyshelfing9953]

Gannon is having a historic season. If you find that boring, you've got a twisted view of what pro disc golf actually is.

[@marcusspringer3516]

@@untrustworthyshelfing9953 I’ve been saying the same thing it’s crazy that people don’t understand watching anything pro is about watching the best Gannon is just playing some of the greatest disc golf ever that’s something to celebrate and promote to help the sport grow

[@Xhalonick]

It's middle aged portly men mad a young kid is schooling all the pros they grew up with during the boom / pre boom. Plus him being lanky makes him easy pickings for making fun of his physical appearance. Most of the haters probably need to catch a breather on their zuca every hole due to their blown out cankles not being able to handle the extreme physical exercise that is known as walking

[@untrustworthyshelfing9953]

@@Xhalonick LOL! You went all in, but yeah, it does feel like people are hating on Gannon for personal/nostalgic reasons. Every time somebody complains about Gannon's reactions to missing a putt, I want to point to McBeth hopping around and doubling over when he misses.

[@Xhalonick]

​@untrustworthyshelfing9953 I can only imagine the outrage Ganon would get if he moved the log like McBeth did at 21 worlds round 4. But yet when the goat does it "He is so dialed in, he will do anything to win, thats respect" this sport is filled with hypocrites struggling for breath after going up their stairs once lol

[@cathyu.1487]

I agree with your "boring" point. It's a bit like saying Yuja Wang is boring to watch because she's so proficient at the piano. There's something about proficiency that I find amazing to watch!

[@drewbsn]

Seeing Gannon in person at DGLO he’s the most chill, nicest guy to fans. No impatience, or arrogance, or attitude. Dude deserves every win. Mature far beyond his years. Shredding other pros in so many categories. Field needs to step up, don’t hate on Gannon

[@teenor1823]

He was the most personable pro I met at DDO this year and that was after he got beat by Heimburg. He even talked shop with me about the things in the final round that went wrong. He will be the GOAT and we won't have to argue much about it in the future.

[@Slippy6582]

Well... It is the task for the others to get better, it is not Gannon´s fault that he is THAT GOOD. He is very young and is already dominating at times... For me personally it is entertaining, it is like watching a youngster growing into one of the best discgolfers to ever exist, i know it is a long stretch, but he is able to do it!

[@ClarkPotter]

There's no excuse being beaten by a child if you've devoted your life to something. Unless that child is Asian.

[@seymourglass26]

People complaining about Gannon being too good are hilarious. I watch the pros to see great disc golf shots. Period. If anything, I think the truly great players will all grind out the offseason and come back stronger, because Gannon's raising the bar. I don't remember much complaining about Tattar's dominance, either.

[@21sabiandrummer67]

god forbid someone comes along and pushes the sport! The Gannon hate train is crazy

[@ClarkPotter]

Exactly

[@Technic859]

Golf. Plenty of PGA events have spectators crossing the fairways.

[@brettseeandthegoodtimes328]

How is Buhr boring? Well rounded, smooth, consistent, and arguably the best putter out there. The dominance has been amazing to watch

[@marcusspringer3516]

Gannon and Ricky are probably my favorite to watch. You can tell how much they love the game and how much they want to win. reminds me a little of Kobe.

[@nathankarwoski2926]

i took it a little different way. not that gannon is boring in any way. but when gannon has that many stroke going into championship sunday, youd be hard pressed not to assume he will win. not boring play but boring story line. idk cant speak for them obviously lol

[@roryh2241]

Because any dude who wins by 5 on a course with no scoring separation isn’t interesting. When he was up 3 with a round to go, there was no point in watching coverage, since he was clearly going to win. Think about it like watching a tv show you have seen before. Sure, it’s still interesting to watch. But nobody is going to be invested in it, as they already know what happens.

[@marcusspringer3516]

@@nathankarwoski2926 Gannon shot 46 under if that’s not awesome to watch then I don’t know what is

[@marcusspringer3516]

@@roryh2241 keep trying to justify it😂, Gannon is having maybe one of the best seasons ever. People love watching teams or players have historic seasons So if you find what he’s doing boring then I think you’re letting your own personal hatred getting in your way. -46

[@Rockstar3182]

Gannon is setting a new standard this season, therefore the players NEED to raise the bar off season. That will result in higher competition next year and better golf overall. I mean, when the time was that u only needed to putt 100% in C1 is passed. Thanks to Gannon the bar raises for everyone and it’s by guys like him that the sport grows.

[@ericeric198]

Just to let you know Swiss, PGA has people walking the fairways all the time. The difference is they have at least two people on each side monitoring when people can cross. Just to correct when you said there is no other sport that does this...

[@william55113]

I think people with a negative attitude towards Gannon winning are shrinking the game. It's not the right mentality, competition brings out the best in people. And the field getting better is better for everyone. Who wants to see worse rounds being played? Mcbeth dominating the field has increased the level of play by so much compared to where it was 10 years ago. This negative attitude only has for effect to attract negative attention to the sport. And the negative shade towards pros that do read media and seriously don't deserve any of this. People need to realize that there is nothing that will come out of these hateful comments, Gannon will still be playing next week. Just find better ways to deal with your feelings you have on the topic, because this isn't the way.

[@ClarkPotter]

Yup

[@raycurren3402]

Felt bad for Silva, I think if she had a caddie, she holds on. She was clearly struggling and threw a high-speed disc on 18 tee when a par could have won it for her.

[@curtisridenour]

If the trophies were made of Legos, no one would stand a chance against this Master Builder!

[@augustachokers7102]

Seriously first complaint is spectators walking across fairways. And you lead with what other event dies this happen. Try watching a small event that happens every year in Augusta Ga. Patrons cross at least 12 fairways, and most have more than one crossing. Keep pitching about paying customers coming to watch you play. But hey you're right they must have been super distracting, I mean the scores were terrible

[@bobbyshizz2138]

Gannon is making fewer throwing mistakes than everyone else, and he makes EVERYTHING with the putter.. If Calvin could putt like Gannon, he'd be right there. If Ricky made fewer throwing errors, he'd also be right there... Gannon is on another level of consistent, mistake free golf.

[@alwaysradical1613]

I love Calvin, but I don’t think he’s as good with a driver as Gannon either. I could be wrong but I would be interested to see who had more OB shots off the tee this year.

[@kevinmarshall1912]

True Wysoki fan here; Burh is a fucking beast, for all the haters out there; get better or get wrecked!

[@Crustacean_the_soup]

I'm personally a Gannon fan and root for him, but I always look at both sides, here is one very explainable reason I can understand the hate: Him being 19 gives him a youthful edge that assists in him in avoiding injury during the constant 500 foot throws required on tour. Throws that have only started appearing so much in recent years, around the same time Gannon started making a name. Its the emotion for two different issues tied into one knot for a lot of folks. Gannon excites me for sure I just hope the injuries that plague a lot of other people won't hit him as he hits his younger to mid 20s and the tour continues to shift towards these long throws

[@rickyg9335]

Gannon may have to run around in the shower just to get wet but there is no doubt he is the best of the best right now.

[@isaacghareeb6751]

Walking across fairways happens at every pga tour event ever

[@KPrime31]

Wanna make disc golf harder....change the target. Eliminate the outer chains, kind of like the MVP Target basket, putting more emphasis on good putting.

[@deacondupps]

Off topic, but can we get a Casey White Christmas Album?

[@Lou-jl4ov]

disc golf collapsing. ratings down. sales down. at least 4 disc golf disc manufacturerers teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.

[@Xhalonick]

Saw this coming a mile away when kona got a half mil + helicopter ride for legit one good tournament lol same thing happened in the esports bubble. You can only put so much unrealistic cash into it before it becomes unsustainable and bursts

[@CardCityCollectibles]

​@@Xhalonick Yea tons of mistakes have been made.

[@sarinhighwind]

Ratings are based on propigators playing. Not how low a score you shoot. Its not based on any fixed numbers. So its arbitrary

[@theairportstuff]

And the FPO are never rated alongside the MPO, they always play a different layout.. But IF the FPO and MPO did play the same layout, and were rated as FPO only? a score in FPO receives a higher rating than the same score in the MPO division. Now you understand why some might be tempted to identify. At the AM level FA ratings tank at non-female events just because most of the TD's do not facilitate the female players being rated amongst themselves.

[@stephenfrancais]

I’ll have fun watching Gannon win the next 15 years

[@levig6238]

I'm a fan of Gannon and his domination. He shouldn't be getting any hate at all. He's earned his right to talk about the state of the sport and the conditions of courses. He's better at the game than literally anybody right now. But it isn't exciting to watch a blow out from you living room.

[@Frank-Reynolds]

Honey, wake up. Disc Golf Drama uploaded again.

[@CardCityCollectibles]

Yea tons of mistakes have been made. Its not difficult to fix all the issues within the sport either, blows my mind how bad funds are allocated. Yo Nate , your the director of the protour, put a call into elon musks people and ask if he would like to become the official internet sponser of discgolf.... guaranteed the dude says yes and sends out a fleet of internet service trucks and boom the sport gets a gazillion views in a week from him coming on board with Internet bad coverage solved. The Protour needs to start making payout for cashes larger ,so those cashing can survive on tour and itll allow the manufactures to actually write contracts for sponsorship that make sense. Right now due to payouts being so low , these manufactures are forced to actually overpay in allot of cases because the players cant survive while touring living off cashes money alone. It all comes from the top, the people running things are failing thus our sport is suffering. As for Gannon , haters gunna hate , is what it is. Kids a prodigy and is a young Tiger Woods , some say its boring to watch him dominate but the youngster is just on a terror and in a flow state throwing some of the most unreal shots the world has ever seen day in and day out. Its beyond impressive and those who are jealous competing against him well, thats professional sports. Get better, train harder and maybe you to could be elite like Gannon. Im not a even a big fan of him , however I have mad respect for his play on tour and his immature anger type antics / tantrum behavior will fade as he gets older. Yall forget his still a teenager and just turned 19 in May of this year . Mcbeth , Tiger woods , Kobe , Lebron James , Jordan all the teenage prodigys acted the same way getting angry and emotional while dominating at a young age. Difficult to control your emotions when your that young and that Elite.

[@Shedwrd]

See you on hole 8 this weekend Jefferson!

[@VirtueSignal9000]

most PGATour courses have walking paths that cut across fairways 🙄

[@aaroncollins85]

The live coverage is great, people just love to complain

[@Tbs904]

I have trouble with the app. I work at a disc golf store on the weekends and it is always crashing out I just have to refresh it a lot. Kind of a hassle when it needs to be on the tv and it won’t play for more than a few minutes at a time. I know I’m not the only person who has experienced that. But I do agree that people love to complain haha

[@bobbyshizz2138]

Maybe it's a casting issue. I only watch on my phone and rarely have a problem.

[@trev3971]

NASCAR playoffs are win-and-you're-in even if you're last in points, and it's way easier to luck into a superspeedway win than it is to win a disc golf tournament with heavy hitters in the field. Win-and-you're-in is a good fit for DGPT.

[@pinaten]

People need to appreciate greatness, haters gonna hate!

[@puttfordoughdiscgolf9361]

We appreciate it! I just think when someone is totally dominating, it can certainly make the rest of the sport feel stale. I felt the same way when Paul was dominating back in the day. I think it's the same with every sport. When you know who's going to win every time, the story line just isn't as exciting. I think that's the biggest reason why people are saying it's boring.

[@DerekInTheFront]

1. Spectators cross fairways in ball golf. Get over it 2. I never quite understood the DGN issues. Not saying it doesn’t happen to others but my experience all year has been overwhelming positive. Again though, not trying to detract from the actual claims of issues

[@roryh2241]

Totally agree about the Gannon hate. The only thing that’s his fault is that he’s a slow player. The rest is just that it’s boring watching blowouts. In ball golf, they used to make golf courses “Tiger proof” on purpose. Since Tiger was one of the longest drivers, they made courses shorter and made the penalty for less accurate shots more severe, such as making the fairway smaller and rough thicker to negate his advantage. Disc golf should do something similar as they design tournament layouts. Find what Gannon is weak at and exploit it.

[@dbzfanatic2149]

@@roryh2241 That’s silly tbh why make it harder because he’s so good? If the players want to win then they’ll have to work harder and get better it’s on them. Gannon shouldn’t be punished because he’s so good

[@vangorder306]

They changed courses because of McBeth. But I do not think they are going to change courses for Gannon...yet.

[@jakewoodward7115]

Live in Vermont, Gannon is king 🤘🏻😎

[@nikolass3451]

I don't really think any of those comments were meant to be hate towards Gannon. They're just bluntly saying the truth. Nothing bad about it IMO. Let him keep winning - he's just better.

[@justinhodge6574]

I want to play a round of disc golf with Jesse next time I visit my brother in Co.

[@OjaiBonsai]

Drama every week? Come on

[@originalsh4rpie372]

This channel gets more views when there is "drama" so expect everything to be allegedly "drama" like people complaing buhr is "too good". Yeah right, literally no one is saying hes too good. gtfo of here with that bs.

[@mattshipley6801]

Spectators cross the track of criterium cycling

[@BigBig5]

Can't believe people are having issues with DGN. I haven't had one problem with DGN on Roku, Android, and Windows/Linux. Chromecast is not the best to stream things. Also, I haven't found that user on Reddit. The DGPT Playoffs is like the NASCAR playoffs which non-playoff drivers still compete in the final 10 races.

[@reedcole5780]

The stream kept crashing for me every 5 minutes or so this weekend on my phone

[@kevinkiefer8331]

Buy the merch, I approve this message.

[@TENGILL]

So with the mandatory thing of the playoffs. If you are a Europe player and you are doing well, but you can not afford to to travel to the US for the playoffs (We do not make a lot of money over here) are they just done?

[@marcusspringer3516]

People are just jealous of Gannon since he’s so good at such a young age

[@PitchperfectDG]

Crossing the fairway is very common.

[@skyesprofessional5ho740]

Did you guys put Ricky 's bomb on the video?

[@bosoxdanc1]

People the amount of complaining people I've been doing about this tournament is ridiculous. I know the pros make these courses look very easy, but they absolutely are not. Anyone saying they're too short, go play Fox golds. They're not going to feel very short.

[@nktaylo1]

Golf... ...you can actively go through fairways while spectating golf. There's just someone there working as a crossing guard.

[@harleybk3]

It amazes me that I can watch live professional pickle ball (yes, pickle ball) for free on FOX, CBS, and ABC, as well as on ESPN. Yet even disc golf world championship events get maybe an ESPN afterthought mention. Comparably, the whole DGN thing seems to be a nightmare, although I can speak objectively since I’ve never subscribed.

[@mikemartin5340]

Lol. Of course the players love these courses- they’re complete birdie fests with near 0 challenges. It’s insane a decent amount of fans seem to be siding with players in that regard. If pro golf tournaments were played on courses of this level, they’d be mocked out of existence

[@aaroncollins85]

Ball golf has people crossing Fairways, you can tell because the grass is all dead in one stripe going across the fairway

[@314Adventurer]

Can you up your audio. I can barely hear you around the buzz saw part. I have headphones on full blast...

[@laysdong]

What other sport has fans cross the fairway? Golf. Golf does this. The issue isn't the crossing the issue is that the PDGA would rather spend money on the culture war than they would on hiring people to man their event

[@sarinhighwind]

Ball golf constantly has fairway crossing at majors.

[@aaron_leigh]

Great vid

[@ThePackMan34]

The unfortunate truth in sports is that dominance is hated at the time and loved after.

[@Lou-jl4ov]

Tiger was dominant and was literally the most popular player.

[@ThePackMan34]

@@Lou-jl4ov Tiger's dominance isn't what made him popular. He was doing things no one had ever seen before. Hitting a 3-iron 280 yards. Hitting recovery shots through and around entire tree lines. Sinking putts that most pros would be happy to two-putt. He was dramatic and flair, and that's what people fell in love with.

[@ThePackMan34]

Comparing Tiger to Gannon ignores Tiger's flair. It would be more like if Simon or Eagle started winning a bunch. Yes, some people would be aggravated, but you're still glued to the anticipation of what they're going to do next. Gannon isn't like that. He's super consistent. He's super logical. He lays up on hole 8 even though he's 7 through 7. He's the Patriots (without the cheating scandals).

[@andrewclark6228]

If they made the courses super ridiculous, like mini golf absurd, players like Simon and Ricky would have an advantage because they are great at non-standard, shenanigans bullshit. Gannon is incredibly great at standard pro level shots of all kinds and I think probably the best (of relevant players) 30-50 foot putter. I do find it kind of boring to watch because he is so consistent. This tournament never felt in doubt. I think maybe the difference between this and tiger say, is that Gannon is a robot who never screws up while everyone else does. Tiger would hit bad shots sometimes and pull out incredible saves, which is basically what Ricky has to do. Putting is probably the answer to making things more interesting. Three putting isn't enough of a thing for disc golf as it can be for golf and that makes a huge difference.

[@abstealy]

Haters are gonna hate look at Michael Jordan. Gannon is the best I’ve ever seen he might be the best we ever see if he keeps it up. I for one am very impressed with the greatness being displayed.

[@joshsowa3462]

There's less drama with the women, in life it's generally loaded with it. Somethings broken with pro disc golf.

[@bigwooly8014]

Weren't people whining about wanting score separation like 2 weeks ago?

[@kbarrett63]

The rest of the field is small talk considering the way Gannon has been burning up the trophies :)

[@davidlasky214]

jar lids as minis is a solid move. why bother buying a mini when there are mini sized things all over the place?

[@christophercarroll2660]

Complaining about stuff for the sake of complaining is getting old. If you had actually good takes i would continue watching this channel. The analysis is just not sophisticated enough for me and makes Disc golf look bad.

[@joem8496]

Put me in that field Gannon would be 1200

[@KPrime31]

"Top 100" "playoffs"....players outside of 100 playing....what a joke.

[@tdawg7408]

If you’re going to complain at least make the audio where I can hear it

[@nosuitsgiven]

Gannon needs an attitude adjustment. Once he does then maybe people will respect him more. Macbeth is a role model, a likable guy. So is Ricky.

[@oneman_menace]

Your audio is wild quiet... hard to listen to in the car

[@ianclayton67]

How is watching Gannon boring? Watching a guy that can do those things with a disc is anything but boring. If the others can't keep up then that's on them, git good😅

[@ianclayton67]

Oh, and I predicted 46 after round 2, just saying🎉

[@andrewwolverton3762]

The shit that Gannon is getting is nowhere near what Paige Pierce got back in the day. She would routinely make Sunday rounds meaningless with her leads, and the jealous haters would cry online like you wouldn't believe.

[@quipalco]

I watch the free fridays and whatever other rounds DGN puts on YT. They are always SHIT quality. Tons of jpeg, lags, etc... Just all around bad resolution. Maybe disc golf isn't that great live? Maybe we don't have the tech for that shit? And they want like 15 a month for that bullshit LOL.

[@earlthomas6295]

Disc golf fans and their media are the worst.

[@cmurph6544]

I pulled my subscription from DGN cause you don’t get to watch shit with the basic one

[@brandonscott8831]

Me personal I do not like watching live disc golf u set there for four hrs for ten mins of actions

[@kevinhoopes5711]

Gannon is obviously way better than everyone. But when he’s up 7 and throws OB, then acts like the world is conspiring against him with the “what the heck I’m being picked on” attitude, it’s hard for fans to like him at all. And everyone can kind of agree that pros think he’s the slowest most self important guy out there. Kind of the typical 2024 teen attitude.

[@bobbyshizz2138]

Nailed it.

[@Munchylego]

That’s right. You’re not allowed to show any emotion, so Gannon should go full stone face at all times. And “self-important?” Have you ever actually heard Gannon talk about his mindset when he plays?

[@kevinhoopes5711]

@@Munchylego actions speak louder than words guy. Any time he misses a putt, anytime he throws a pour shot, he acts like the world is out to get him. This isn’t just my opinion, it’s what’s actually happening. You can hold his nuts all you want but there’s a reason he rubs people the wrong way.

[@susiepittman601]

Gannon's behavior during the Prodigy crap certainly soured me on him. I'm trying to like him because he is so talented.

[@EricSmith-od4fx]

Prodigy screwed him big time! oh nevermind brother

[@Lou-jl4ov]

he's bland as a potato

[@Nousefornonsense]

I just wait for Jomez DGN is a joke.

[@Act1onJonny]

It's not that I dislike Gannon, honestly I like him a lot, seems like a cool kid, I just wanna watch a more exciting match is all.

[@Shawizzlegaming]

One of the most negative channels for disc golf on KZbin. 👎 Why would anyone subscribe to this ?

[@me36391]

I concur with a lot of havent watched much of MPO or the FPO in all honesty. It is not the fact Buhr is winning, it is why is he the only one who seems to show up every week? The courses are still outdated for todays players, or at least i thought. I am shocked that every week players are not shooting -14 down consistently, weather is rarely an issue and heck dont even think GB carries a driver. Dont know what happened this yr but the players who were suppossed to challenge for the top are I guess good with top 20.

[@bubbawatson1852]

Its always same players on videos, like its only 8 guys in the field. Can we watch other players? Coverage makes it look so little. Who picks the 1st round groups? Is it fair to all? How can guys get leader group pairings before they play? How come the women just dont stop playing when a man is in their field? Itll stop it quickly, all women boycott. If hes playing, thet dont. Cant believe they haven't done it yet. Why dont any women sign up in mens field? Tatter should do it. To show the difference. Shed get destroyed. Its so silly. Just back out any one hes in. Fair.

[@Solami987]

Gannon sucks at being bad at disc golf

[@DaveAnfenson]

I can honestly say I haven’t watched this little of disc golf since I started disc golfing in 2020. It is so boring seeing Buhr and Tattar win almost everything.

[@joshua8314]

I've said this since it's debut, "DGN SUCKS". Unfortunately there's a sucker born every minute and they keep subscribing to a crappy product.

[@TheTiredWanderer]

time to start splitting the mpo into mp30, only 2 30+ year olds in the top 10

[@Thelifeofandrew_]

People complaint about Gannon is like people complaining about Tattar, but we all know that those complaining about Gannon are also drooling over Tattar week in and week out

[@Steve-hv1bg]

Its really stupid to hate on Gannon, hes a champion.

[@Lou-jl4ov]

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[@sickeffect]

Gannon is a cold blooded killer. Haters gonna hate because they throw full flex 250' max distance

[@Munchylego]

Uh…someone’s throwing distance has nothing to do with anything. It’s weird that people always say that kind of stuff, but I agree, Gannon is a badass. The rest of the field needs to practice to keep up.

[@sickeffect]

@@Munchylego ...and just like that the sensitive guy that throws 250 gets triggered

[@Munchylego]

@@sickeffect yep…totally “triggered” because your super informed statement about how far I throw a disc matters a lot to me.

[@csweet207]

Apparently Jeff doesn't watch his own videos either.

[@humanecentipede985]

So gannon needs to be handicapped because hes the first player showing how boring these courses are. We need more skill not just throw far and putt.

[@Boucher702]

i really hope your being sarcastic about him needing to be handicapped. more pros need to step up if they want to catch him

[@humanecentipede985]

@Boucher702 i agree thats what u was trying to say. The first sentence was supposed to be a question. Like do we need to handicap him just because hes the first true athlete to show what can be in the sport? I think these easy courses hurt the watchablility of the broadcasts.