PDGA Raised The Price?!

[@zanierrules]

Fees will always increase. Everyone should be rejoicing that the increase is so nominal after 15 years. These people won't shell out 5 more dollars to the PDGA but are dropping 20 a month as a jomez patreon.

[@stevelawson292]

No issues ... with the PDGA fee increases. Hasn't increased for over 15 years ... which is a pretty rare statement to make tbh, can't think of too many things in life you can say that about. Also really looking forward to the Tour Down Under season in New Zealand. Will be awesome to have some quality off-season coverage!

[@thisissostupidqsdfva]

The money goes to the court fees vs Natalie Ryan

[@kellerthedog]

I’m a TD and I welcome the raise. The software / tourney manager is a gamechanger for tds. These fees are easy to offset with strong local sponsorship. Run a good event and it will fill.

[@timmiller9599]

Still recovering from Nat Ryan. They need to boot him out of the PDGA

[@ChrisLitteljohn]

I started playing DG in the late 80's and joined the pdga in the early 90's. by the late 90's as a touring pro they handed me a perma ban for making pot stamped discs. shortly after the ban was rescinded, but i refuse to give them any money. league play is more fun and with DG being available in so many more places than it was in the 90's, there is much more competition at the lower levels. the pdga is a gong show that has a complete stranglehold over the sport. its the main reason why the sport has yet to become mainstream.

[@Fuhgit-lu4tj]

Well said!

[@user-ek8kr3yc9c]

Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

[@harryteevee9569]

The smell of weed is keeping new players and families away from discgolf, not the fees.

[@discblaster9210]

them and dgpt milking the loyalsr and keeping a paywall

[@Fuhgit-lu4tj]

@ I’d rather play with pot smokers than drinkers.

[@crazycajun868]

Real Short. If they never have upped prices since 2007. People got to bitch and cry about something

[@robertlovelace3342]

Went to Worlds 2024 and the volunteers were short staffed running up and down massive fairways. PDGA Staff in golf carts walking with umbrellas just hanging out. That’s where the money goes I guess? Never seen an official PDGA staff member at a local event just to see how it’s going.

[@coachbrandon01]

still 100% dependent on volunteers.

[@mattlaberge3130]

Who else is mind blown after that Matt Schlabach is 40+ ?! Like wtf 🤯

[@Trading_cards_and_more]

I've been in the division 3 years. People have said I look like I'm 28. That being said he doesn't look that young but it could be his ethnicity.

[@DG69GOD]

He also owns a whole disc golf shop in Des Moines, pretty crazy for a 19 looking 40 year old

[@samharwood340]

Wow, New Zealand in the DG news. I have to say that the tour down Under boys are really pushing the sport around these parts, well done.

[@Fuhgit-lu4tj]

I remember getting a player package for entering a tournament in the mid 90s. I always dug the DX birdie with the tournament stamp on it you’d get. I miss the good ole days

[@DanLangford]

I’m only a PDGA member so that I can run a PDGA League cause many players out here want ratings. It would be really interesting if another company tried to compete with ratings, looking at you UDisc as soon as UDisc can help collect and distribute money for things like an ace pot or CTP then maybe that value would outweigh other value in getting from PDga

[@Akt1onDiscgolf]

I like the amount of money the pdga spent on lawsuits. Run more unsanctioned tournaments.

[@rubberorr]

Lots of good points for and against. Bottom line, if you love the pro side of things and love to compete and be measured against others, support the PDGA. If you love getting outdoors with family and friends to enjoy quality time together while tossing plastic thru the woods and fields, not much need. No governing body is going to be perfect and it seems to me they do at least listen if not act on every whim of the members (also understandable). I’m joining to be a part of sanctioned play and to support the pro tour. I will also support the pro tour by buying discs and merchandise that support the players, attend events and spend money while I’m there. That’s my approach. Yours should be what makes you happy as well. Just be positive and don’t disparage others who do it differently. Got enough of that bullshit going on already.

[@discgolfcrazy2787]

International (nz) PDGA sanctioned tournaments are cheap to run $75usd all up, no additional players fee to PDGA but there is a fee to have it on NZDG tour ($5nzd) , but players seem to be happy to pay $150-$200nzd to play larger tournaments?

[@smit5422]

I pay for my PDGA Subscription to get the Magazine and a huge discount for my Pro Coverage. I agree that I must re-examine my money now that we don’t get the magazine. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Aether_Paradox]

My ban was the best thing that could have happened to me. Playing unsanctioned events has been so much more fun than dealing with the politics associated with sanctioning.

[@bd4307]

foot fault

[@byronharris14]

I’m gonna continue to pay for my pdga membership. Seeing how it’s the first time in a long time they increased the prices it means nothing to me. Seeing how everything else in this world seems to increase the prices on memberships every 6 months to a year, I’m okay with them increasing it now. Plus I prefer sanctioned event, they are always more fun for me than non sanctioned.

[@walterweyman8609]

Love non sanctioned events.

[@michaelyahner6695]

what would make you want to join the PDGA uncle swiss? member since 2011, used to play a handful of tournaments a year so it would be worth it. I now only play a couple but still renew every year because I care about the sport. I don't think the ruling body is doing a great job, but we need some practical solutions and feedback from the community if we want change

[@tmilker]

"PDGA Raised The Price?! - This Week in Disc Golf" would be such a better, identifiable title

[@thediscgolfworld]

We tried that in the past and the results were the exact opposite

[@tmilker]

@@thediscgolfworld Well, you've got the metrics. I'll try to see if I can fix it with my browser then. TWID is the only one I really want to catch every week and during the season it's tough to pick it out with all the other videos coming out around the same time.

[@mikeduerr9618]

The increase is minimal. The problem is that it’s a worthless membership unless you really do 6-10 tournaments a year minimum and like organized DG. Personally organized DG has fallen off dramatically the past few years and isn’t worth a dime. I’ll spend the extra $10 and do a couple events a year.

[@DondoDiscGolf]

They'll Take your Money!

[@gregrussell1787]

Nobody is complaining about $1. But it is one more thing to pile onto the stack of issues the pdga has.

[@tortato9386]

Okay if we are paying more to support the pros. Make dgn free for people who have a membership and play tournaments. Keep the pay wall on the top level for the "extras"

[@hightenor123]

The fees have no impact on whether I will play tournaments. I'll still play as often as I can. Per the inflation calculator 1 dollar today was 68 cents in 2007. We should be anticipating an increase, that is economics.

[@travisobenshain2666]

I personally was also a non pdga number guy for the first 12 years but then all my dudes started doing tourneys at my local course and I didn’t wanna miss out. Pay the $10 without a number for any tourneys I wanna play or get a pdga number? Not hard to find five tournaments to play per year with all that pdga does. Kind of a no-brainer for me

[@AtomicChewbacca]

I don’t really see any issue. There will never be a $1,000,000 purse if the sport gets bullied every time it tries to grow.

[@theJHeykid]

The same people who say grow the sport are the ones who complain when there's money involved

[@AtomicChewbacca]

this. 🤙🏻

[@Rumb1epit]

@@theJHeykid You don't grow a sport by squeezing every last penny you can out of the few that know the sport exist. BTW Im a PDGA member and I subscribe to DGN

[@todward3295]

@@theJHeykidit’s because of how their using the money lol and tourney directors stealing it, not about it going to pros I’ll simply just buy the pros disc

[@AtomicChewbacca]

@@Rumb1epit asking for an extra $1 isn’t terrible. The membership is a bit of a bad taste, but who cares about the magazine anyways? lol

[@Bigshotdobbs]

Not going to renew PDGA membership or DGPT premium. I wish them both the best of luck. DGPT and UDisc should have teamed up and forced the PDGA to give up all the pro events.

[@Two_Buck]

Is the PDGA intentionally trying to kill this sport?

[@caseysmith544]

No, I think we need a new league like WDGA or World Disc Golf Association to take over or some new people running the PDGA.

[@mitchduran6071]

Hopefully there using the money to have officials. It'd probably create more controversy like officials do in any other sport. Be interesting to see some of these players get called for violations that we know happen sometime. Some of the interactions could be gold.

[@somedude693]

Ive been debating if I want to join. Is it worth it? Only been play for a year now but I was thinking I might want to start doing some tournaments or join a league next season. Do I NEED to join?

[@josephp5235]

I love playing in sanctioned tournaments, I've met lots of cool people

[@coachbrandon01]

You can do lots of fun unsanctioned, and more interesting events, without pdga. pdga is for competitors. Casual players avoid pdga, who are not really on any courses, anyway.

[@somedude693]

@coachbrandon01 thanks!

[@apc73084]

just as a guy who doesn’t play a bunch…i enjoy a $5 game between friends over $70 tourney entry. i only had active membership for maybe two years because it wasn’t fiscally responsible with the little amount of competitive throwing i do. someone wanna buy my PDGA# 😂

[@nathanwilson7929]

We want a professional organization but not professional prices to pay professionals

[@TheSafeJourney]

Why don’t someone else start a completely different league? Call it disc golf USA or whatever and setup a separate entity. And then make it cheaper.

[@iRuntournaments]

I run tournaments. Generally stay quiet on the topic. But whoever said we should be taxed - technically, we are supposed to be whether we like it or not. Entry fees are subject to sales tax in most states, first of all. So I can all but guarantee you aren't paying that even though you are probably required to if your state has a sales tax. Then if we don't have a business license, that means we don't have a resale certificate, and that means we have to pay sales tax on our orders from the disc companies (this is unavoidable unless you have a valid resale certificate). Whether we're incorporated or not, we are also supposed to pay income tax, including the 15.7% federal self employment tax, on any profits. To be clear, this is not a proposal; this is the CURRENT legal requirement. You guys truly have no idea how many TDs are just dropping so many legal balls, and there is a less than zero chance this sport becomes mainstream until we start paying our fucking taxes.

[@GanjaFrolfstar]

The PDGA literally teaches it's TD staff to use the TD report and scam the IRS. Sad.

[@grandturtle2786]

Disc golf is changing from an accessible activity to a exclusive sport.

[@seymourglass26]

Only if you want to be part of a special club where they brand you with a number like some prisoner. Casual rounds and leagues are still the same as they were 5 years ago, just with more players out there. Most courses are still free, and the used disc bin is bigger than ever.

[@GanjaFrolfstar]

Players packs are an obvious conflict of interest socioeconomic gain for the disc companies and special interest pdga staff that get kickbacks. For the rest of the sport, it socioeconomically keeps out the undesired folks through decades of systemic racism.

[@andrews6323]

If they are making a profit then i believe the have a responsibility to reinvest in the community by helping to build new parks in various cities

[@tomfenter2566]

Sure it’s a bummer but doesn’t affect my thoughts on playing sanctioned events. I still dig and play unsanctioned events

[@robwrenn4514]

I'll still be a member.

[@lfish21.]

Disc golfers complaining about the PDGA while never having been a member is peak disc golfer.

[@DG69GOD]

I wonder if this new TD training will discourage the embezzlement of player funds 🤔

[@GanjaFrolfstar]

The training consists of learning how to AM SCAM the players, and then to hide all profits from the IRS.

[@ctb297]

The TD fee should have been increased. The PDGA doesn't do anything U DISC doesn't do for less. Drop the PDGA!

[@coachbrandon01]

While they are "growing the sport," the regional numbers of players on the course are down. IF the sport is growing, it is not pdga bringing people to the courses. A few companies may be growing. I think DG is in for a rude awakening, next season. People are leaving and taking their resources with them.

[@tomfenter2566]

Great show,

[@aaronmeyer9431]

Dude! Why are we covering these monster Pike with thumbnails? I want to see the fish

[@amanatee]

yea what was the point of that lol

[@spinningcirclesdg]

Tell us you don't understand inflation without telling us you don't understand inflation. Name one thing since 2007 that hasn't gone up in price at least 25%. Everyone whining about paying one extra dollar? Get real. The sport continues to grow. More tournaments means an increase in insurance fees for the PDGA. The money has to come from somewhere. And seriously, nobody has a problem shelling out more money for the newest release discs or mystery boxes etc etc. So what really is the big deal about a $1 increase? As for the non-PDGA member fee increase of $5 to play in a sanctioned tournament, is that really a big deal? It actually just makes it more worthwhile to become a PDGA member if you're going to enter into 4 sanctioned tournaments. The funniest thing is that most of the people complaining will never become PDGA members anyways. They just want to come online and complain about it just like the free UDisc users who complain about that price increase. If you don't want to grow the sport, then don't. But don't complain about increases that don't affect you anyways. It seems there are a heck of a lot of cheap, bitter disc golfers out there who have no clue what level of effort and commitment goes into regulating the sport (PDGA) and providing user data for free to get new courses installed (UDisc). Oddly enough, the same internet that unaffected disc golfers can use to post their "grievances" also provides education on where these monies get allocated. I guess, like paying into growing the sport, that's just too much work for them

[@jacobcorey6880]

appreciate you guys foreal 💪

[@Rumb1epit]

Too bad they can't generate normal sources of income from advertising and sponsoring ... I imagine that's difficult considering the best content this sport has to offer is hidden behind a pay wall. There's only one way to go when being mismananged ,and that's why they need the players to help foot the bill.

[@tjg555]

if "you guys know" why do you have to tell us

[@LeviCarey-z3o]

Uhhh.. I don’t remember allowing you guys to use my likeness 😂😂😂

[@laysdong]

They may have failed at growing the sport but they succeeded at using the sport to fight the culture war. ✊🏼 So they have that going for them.

[@paulneiman7933]

Clutch your pearls a little harder lol

[@bd4307]

foot fault 🦶

[@paulwhitaker123]

If the PDGA ever gets it's head out of it's a$$ we will return. I go back to the 90s. Hold wins over Brian Sweburger and Terry Miller (before he became The discgolf guy). Back when there was 3 divisions ,pro,( advanced), am. We played for the love of the game. Win or lose it was more about the high lite shot you never forget. Still love the game and the people but like most the PDGA has forgotten who they represent. Poppop 14630

[@todward3295]

I don’t think I’ll be signing up again simply because of how many things suck, the coverage the commentators, the payouts at tournaments, how they’re ran it’s a tough look

[@dyne313]

Maybe the PDGA shouldn't be going to court to prevent trans players from playing the game in their appropriate division. STOP PAYING TO PREVENT THE SPORT FROM GROWING. STOP PAYING TO SUPPORT YOUR BIGOTED POSITION ON TRANS ATHLETES!

[@chrisbruchak4519]

Gfys clown.

[@trvrgrz]

Didn’t they take pdga to court? Pdga didn’t wake up one day and say “let’s spend our money on legal fees.” When you’re sued, you don’t have a choice. This is a bad take.

[@EazyCash1993]

Let's just make them their own divisions MtF division And FtM division. That should solve it right?

[@davidcopfer5457]

Or maybe stop putting men in a womens sports? Easier option lol

[@dyne313]

@@davidcopfer5457 Trans women ARE NOT MEN YOU BIGOT PIECE OF SHIT.

[@mawage666]

I have a great job which pays well enough for me not to care about the cost of my PDGA membership. I spend FAR MORE on beer for the course lol. PDGA 163538