Explaining All Banned Main Deck Monsters in YuGiOh [Part 5]

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TheDuelLogs

2 жыл бұрын

In this series will be explaining all of the main deck Banned monsters, starting off this video would Dandylion.
--The List--
Intro: (0:00)
1-Dandylion, Banned February 2018: (0:08)
2-Yata-Garasu, Banned August 2004: (5:30)
3-Level Eater, Banned February 2018: (11:16)
4-Magical Scientist, April 2005: (15:25)
5-Substitoad, September 2010: (18:20)
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@you0tuber6
@you0tuber6 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the last time I played yugioh it was in 2012 and I haven't played ever since. Yet your videos are so fun and interesting to watch, thank you.
@ReneFredes
@ReneFredes 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me lol
@DUxMORTEM
@DUxMORTEM 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Game got too meta game to be fun for me anymore and it sent me right back to MTGs EHD format but i still watch these out of entertainment.
@winstonsmith8082
@winstonsmith8082 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play since Pendulum came
@M_Customized_Box
@M_Customized_Box 2 жыл бұрын
me too, though i would like to get into it since gren maju is apparently viable now lol
@masterdarklink1
@masterdarklink1 2 жыл бұрын
Take a drink everytime in one of these videos you hear "The card was powerful but not broken. BUT THEN LINK MONSTERS CAME OUT."
@RunicSigils
@RunicSigils 2 жыл бұрын
This is why all extra deck monsters need an errata to require at least one specific. Either one archetype, one attribute or type, or one specific monster named. Often in both their summoning conditions and effect. Generic-ish is fine but 100% generic is not. The new Magistus Zoroa is a perfect example of what ED monsters should be. It has a relatively powerful effect but specifically requires a spellcaster monster in it's synchro summoning and then further requires monsters of its archetype to make use of both it's powerful effects. Those being to lock your opponent out of effects and to reborn itself. It's kind of funny for the last effect in particular that it released in the same set as DPE and yet DPE does not have the same restrictions. Because who needs balance, right?
@masterdarklink1
@masterdarklink1 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunicSigils honestly the use of generic materials isn't that much of a problem for most ED monsters, so long as the effects are balanced around the ease of summoning, plus all ED monsters do have restrictions, Fusions often need the use of a spell card to fuse, Synchro need a Tuner, and XYZ need the levels to be the same. The problem is literally that Link Monsters don't need anything like that. One of the biggest ways to limit Link monsters would honestly be to not allow them to be summoned with Tokens. It also doesn't help that even Link's with specific cards (Needlefibre needs a Tuner) are given overpowering effects.
@patrickp.8390
@patrickp.8390 2 жыл бұрын
And competitive game
@evilsworn2901
@evilsworn2901 2 жыл бұрын
Tkae shot every time he says a hard once per turn might do it
@randylianabella4861
@randylianabella4861 2 жыл бұрын
Still salty that Link slapped Synchro Decks by getting Dandy, Level Eater, and O-Lion banned.
@elin111
@elin111 2 жыл бұрын
"As you slowly peck away your opponent's life" I see what you did there
@Boristien405
@Boristien405 2 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that yata started that saying
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound nearly as funny right now...
@matthewworden6095
@matthewworden6095 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in one of the GX Tag Force games there was a task where you have to win with the Yata-Garasu lock so after looking it up I built a deck around it with Neo Daedalus (CED was banned) and once I pulled it off the AI conceded immediately which I thought was cool because the AI never concedes.
@pikminlord343
@pikminlord343 2 жыл бұрын
H. So n do Bath lol tb B gf
@theluckygamer10
@theluckygamer10 2 жыл бұрын
@@pikminlord343 ...what-
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
I miss when Konami made good full yugioh games. Driving my duel runner was so much fun. Why isn’t there an insane next gen game with Action Duels from Arc V or Speed duels from VRAINS or all of the above. They could even make an open world ARPG just from the lore. I’m looking forward to master duels, but something akin to the OG games that made me feel in it and quenched my thirst would be nice. Sorry for the tanger, but hearing about Tag Force just reminded me of happier times.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 Oh yeah, there's so much potential content about the monsters and events featured in all the artwork, it's weird they still use the manga/anime as main advertisement.
@iCthtflykid
@iCthtflykid 2 жыл бұрын
PSP days ✊🏻
@Brendanj101
@Brendanj101 2 жыл бұрын
Yata is the last of the Chaos Dragon combo that hasn't been touched, and personally I'd prefer it that way so it doesn't suffer like Chaos dragon did.
@Weareonenation303
@Weareonenation303 2 жыл бұрын
Just watch Konami completely kill Yata with an errata like: "Your opponent must have 4 more or cards in their hand to resolve this effect."
@eonaon6914
@eonaon6914 2 жыл бұрын
@@Weareonenation303 As I actually played in chaos yata format way back in the day, I honestly REALLY never want this card off the banlist. There were people in my meta that used the basic chaos deck form and added drop off and other effects that denied you cards and that was with a much smaller card pool than you have today, with a pool so much larger than it was this becomes more actually doable than back then. The utter futility of the yata lock was so very VERY annoying that I still slow burn today.
@God-ch8lq
@God-ch8lq 2 жыл бұрын
@@eonaon6914 yata is what is often called a "win more" card its worthless if ur behind but if ur ahead itll guarentee your win
@ChristMetalMayhem
@ChristMetalMayhem 2 жыл бұрын
Yata just was taken off the ban list.....
@Bisuderp
@Bisuderp 2 жыл бұрын
@@eonaon6914 o
@LazurBeemz
@LazurBeemz 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about saying "prevent it from being used as Link Material" is that when Konami invents the next extra deck mechanic all those cards will instantly become broken and need to be banned again
@zad_rasera
@zad_rasera 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, Link would be the last.
@mach186282
@mach186282 2 жыл бұрын
At some point, they just need to future proof and say it cannot be used as "material" without specifying what type.
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 2 жыл бұрын
instead they need ot specific what the tokens can be used for, instead of what they arent usable for.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 2 жыл бұрын
Just give it the restriction of the only being able to summon Syncros the turn you use the effect, like how Junk Speeder works.
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
It would be kinda shocking if Yata-Garasu were to be unbanned and people started to play it again in decks that could benefit from its effect but that’s not going to happen
@Jc-wz2yh
@Jc-wz2yh 2 жыл бұрын
It could happen it’s just highly unlikely
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jc-wz2yh Yeah
@Jc-wz2yh
@Jc-wz2yh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdragon168 so broken
@rainbowdragon168
@rainbowdragon168 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jc-wz2yh um ok….
@Jc-wz2yh
@Jc-wz2yh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdragon168 I don’t play yugioh
@shadowmanwkp
@shadowmanwkp 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 I think you're misreading dandylion's effect: it doesn't matter how it hits the GY for its effect to trigger, i.e. it does not need to hit the field first. Having dandylion in the hand makes for excellent discard fodder due to link shenanigans, which is much easier than a special summon imo.
@MrZer093
@MrZer093 2 жыл бұрын
It was super popular in the chaos lightsworn synchro decks too. Because guess what happened when Dandy got milled? It was always a nutburgers card.
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 2 жыл бұрын
Anime version is funny. It has to be destroyed by battle to get tokens making it unbearable slow
@Magna_Dragon
@Magna_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
In tag force you had to use it summon shooting star dragon in 1 turn
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 2 жыл бұрын
@@Magna_Dragon For memes can get out Majestic Star Dragon with one for one and Debris Dragon turn 1 in Tag Force 4. Again thats a meme. Also its Tag Force 5 for Shooting Star. Tag Force 6, its much easier using Tech Genus engine then Dandylion but gets the job done
@Sulidaire
@Sulidaire 2 жыл бұрын
He mentions how it can pop it's effect regardless of how it's sent to the grave in the first 30 secs of the vid
@justincarroll1836
@justincarroll1836 2 жыл бұрын
I love the backwards approach to card or set design in Yugioh. "We can't make this card because another card that already exists would break it". "Lol just ban that other card. We're here to make people buy the new sets."
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan 2 жыл бұрын
yeah they go the lazy approach to ban instead of balancing their own freaking game
@justincarroll1836
@justincarroll1836 2 жыл бұрын
@@EduardoWeidmanBarijan I mean the funny part to me is how it would be incredibly embarrassing to 99% of other companies and Konami is like "eh the bans will fix it"
@MrZer093
@MrZer093 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know how limiting it is to card design when you disallow the designers to ban cards? Imagine being unable to make a fun mechanic just because one card made years ago before this idea was even conceived would absolutely break it and being unable to do anything about it. Fun is always more important than balance (especially as balance is there to serve the game being fun). It’s fine to ban cards when it’s for the sake of balance. It is important to not rely on such a thing because constantly banning cards isn’t fun either. Though yes, Konami definitely takes the utter piss out of banning cards at times and are probably the most infamous for it. Ironically, there’s a balance to this as well.
@justincarroll1836
@justincarroll1836 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZer093 Future proofing isn't easy. No offense but this seems a lot like "the hard way to design something is hard" in a nutshell. The incredible frequency and lack of foresight in designs that are identified as problematic by the community in days shows me that Konami generally doesn't care. It's not that they care 0% but they definitely aren't worried about making mistakes especially when they have the ability to make a solution in the next set but that model feels abusive and is my number 1 reason for not getting into the game. For example, I can almost excuse the 1st wave of link bans that were preemptive but I can't excuse things like Halq. The problem that I have is that they've made similar mistakes so often that it stops feeling like a mistake and more like negligence or intentional problems
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZer093 I think they really needed to make a new game around the new mechanics. Same as they did now with Rush Duels. But they are afraid to lose "appeal" it seems
@ConnorLockhartYGO
@ConnorLockhartYGO 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take: Yata-Garasu could come back to Unlimited without any erratum and nobody would give a shit.
@witecatj6007
@witecatj6007 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Level Eater. I love the Labradorite Dragon Syncro deck and how it opened the door to some of the coolest Syncro monsters that most people would pass on like Underground Arachnid.
@Hiramekiza
@Hiramekiza 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so old I still remember the disbelief and buzz when the banned list came out for the first time. A whole lot of people were upset, having spent tons of money on Yata Garasu and Chaos Emperor Dragon back then. I remember the old beatdown with La Jinn, and I think I quit sometime in 2005, before I graduated high school.
@dmtrsgrksrphl2501
@dmtrsgrksrphl2501 2 жыл бұрын
Future Duellogs: OK Done with explaining the Banlist. (Outro): I would love suggestions in the comments (Sees explain the Limited Cards): Huh , yeah let's do that. And afterwards only explaining future Banlists
@fredyramirez3035
@fredyramirez3035 2 жыл бұрын
He said something about explaining the previous ban lists. I always wondered why black hole and monster reborn were banned. But raigeki wasn't.
@warcriminalyes
@warcriminalyes 2 жыл бұрын
Same as heavy storm, some monsters wanted to be destroyed.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
@@warcriminalyes When was there a time that Raigeki was Limited but Dark Hole was banned? I have been in and out of the game at times but can't recall a time such a thing happened. Heavy Storm's issue is also the fact that you can use a floodgate or 2 to stop your opponent from making their plays and then when you're ready to make your own, you can just wipe out your own floodgates while also getting rid of your opponent's back row.
@fredyramirez3035
@fredyramirez3035 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 I don't know about the tcg. But in most video games pre xyz. Those cards were on limited or completely banned but the damn raigeki was free. It was a complete bsht in terms of fairness before zombies and floodgates became popular
@vincentsissom4180
@vincentsissom4180 2 жыл бұрын
So, got an idea for a new list, that being "Top 10 non-Banned cards that could be errata to released cards from the Ban list." Cards like that Crystron link monster could be errata to require a WATER Machine Tuner for its Summon, and only Summon a WATER Machine Tuner from the Deck. That would limit it to the Deck it supposed to work with, and get a number of Tuners off the list.
@henke37
@henke37 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that card seems to be a poster boy for causing other cards to end up on the ban list.
@MasterofLaziness
@MasterofLaziness 2 жыл бұрын
Basically "cards that got other cards banned", then. Could be a good one.
@vincentsissom4180
@vincentsissom4180 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterofLaziness Not exactly. This would refine the list to cards that could reasonably be errata to remove cards from the list, rather than just the ones they could ban to remove cards.
@cephalosjr.1835
@cephalosjr.1835 2 жыл бұрын
Halq was clearly intended to work in every deck that needs 2+ Tuners to play, as we can see from its highly generic Summoning conditions and effect. I don’t get why people don’t like it. Halq’s existence enables many rogue decks to play the game, and it isn’t broken.
@vincentsissom4180
@vincentsissom4180 2 жыл бұрын
@@cephalosjr.1835 Saying Halq isn't broken when it's reasonable for so many banned cards is like saying Red-Eyes decks are meta because of Dragoon.
@juanpablouriascruz1411
@juanpablouriascruz1411 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how magical scientist only appeared 3 times in your top 10 s and Made it #1 in all of them. More infamous than spellbook, brilliant fusion, etc. Also, top 10 banned cards to be fixed with a hard once per turn
@TheDuelLogs
@TheDuelLogs 2 жыл бұрын
Its really hard for a card to top magical scientist if it shows up in the parameters of a list video
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch 2 жыл бұрын
I always figured Konsmi would never take Yata off the ban list because if you were ever to Yata lock someone the game could take 40+ turns to end and in an event were games have time limits it would make the games take forever since they can't force someone to surrender a game just image how long a best of 3 would take.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 2 жыл бұрын
In a modern game the Yata player could keep drawing cards and special summoning stuff in addition to Yata, though, so they'd probably end the match a lot quicker than that.
@dantesparda4610
@dantesparda4610 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, nowaday's META game allow you to summon monsters without using your normal summon, and most META decks have GY effects.
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch 2 жыл бұрын
@@teddyhaines6613 if you play them.... I would imagine a deck build around doing a yata lock work for go cards they can SS and maximum draw power/ slash ways to get to Yata.
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch 2 жыл бұрын
@@dantesparda4610 yes most have effects that they can use immediately not two turns from when they put it in the grave
@theholy1191
@theholy1191 2 жыл бұрын
Mystic Mine: Am I a joke to you?
@Marko-he8el
@Marko-he8el 2 жыл бұрын
Link mechanic is responsible for almost the entire banlist, shows how dumb, stupid and easy it is
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan 2 жыл бұрын
That shows why unrestricted mechanics is not good for the overall game pace, but Konami still allows it. If the formats were like "tribute only, synchro only" etc, the cards wouldn't be banned at all. Banning them is to make it easy to counter for future card releases. That is just lazy on my opinion. You gotta take responsibility of your own game
@thatman666
@thatman666 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Xyz never allowed Tokens as materials.
@PrimeGamator
@PrimeGamator 2 жыл бұрын
The Link mechanic is the biggest mistake Konami has ever made, even more than the Pendulum mechanic. Cards that have been fine for ages suddenly cannot be played any more because anything and everything can be used to spam Link monsters. I just cannot believe they decided to create such an irresponsible mechanic
@sparo_splat
@sparo_splat 2 жыл бұрын
When Firewall Dragon, the MC's boss monster, got banned while the anime is still ongoing, you know how stupid Link Summon is.
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 2 жыл бұрын
All Link Monsters should be banned from history. They destroyed Yu-Gi-Oh even more than broken Pendulum.
@quangduybui2181
@quangduybui2181 2 жыл бұрын
Bonus: Level Eater had been banned in the OCG quite a long time before Link Monster came out. The reason is PSY-Framelord Omega and the degenerate DARK Synchro Deck that ended with a Shooting Quasar, a Crystal Wing and 3-4 handloops, or in the worst case scenario 3 Omega that slowly regen your resources. So it was banned in late 2016, with Omega Limited.
@achaka8947
@achaka8947 2 жыл бұрын
Sees Yata-Garasu: *now this will be interesting*
@jeffreytam7684
@jeffreytam7684 2 жыл бұрын
With regards to Yata, I'm going to echo something that was mentioned either in Progression or in History of Yugioh - Yata has stayed banned, not strictly because of its power level, but because it enables unfun game states and would be the subject of every little monster's new handlock deck. Whether that would actually be a problem in the competitive scene? There's only one way to find out...
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 2 жыл бұрын
Another fix for Level Eater, it could lock you out of link summons for the rest of the turn if you special summon it, that way you can still make Synchro climbs and otherwise. It just wouldn't let you do any links, the other fix in addition would be to prevent the monsters summoned using it as material to not be able to be used as link material. That or it could just lock you into Synchro summons for the rest of the turn if you activate its special summon effect.
@fredyramirez3035
@fredyramirez3035 2 жыл бұрын
It could be given a restriction. Like they did with makyura.
@randomsamurai3855
@randomsamurai3855 Жыл бұрын
Guys its simple just errata it so it can be only used for a synchro summon and boom you fix the card don't even have to give it a once per turn at all
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 2 жыл бұрын
After 17 Long Years, The Spirit Bird Is Finally Free.
@Shiny_Plume
@Shiny_Plume 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I put Dandylion in my plant deck just to try it out and its effect was insane to link into or synchro summon monsters. I can see why it’s banned. But nowadays you can run three evil thorns and achieve a similar effect. Summon Evil Thorn, tribute it to burn for 300, summon two more, make Aromaseraphy Jasmine with those two. And if you have Primula the Rikka Fairy and/or Rose girl in hand when you tribute the Evil Thorn that’s just even more free summons, not to mention that its burn effect puts you at more lp than your opponent on turn 1, which if you run some Aroma monsters gives you even more effects to play with. The downside to evil thorn is that you have to run 3 and if you have two in your opening hand or your opponent has an Ash Blossom ready to go then you’re out of luck on this strat.
@kekkres
@kekkres 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should solve a lot of issues by just making a ruling that any monster or token that cannot be tributed also cannot be used for link plays
@billybobjoe1335
@billybobjoe1335 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many obscure rulings already, we don’t need more. More than half of the monsters on the ban list could be fixed with a hard once per turn.
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 2 жыл бұрын
@@billybobjoe1335 I dont think link summoning being considered a form of tributing when like every card basically was designed like it already was considered tributing balance wise would really be some super unintuitive design here. even other forms of summoning like XYZ never allowed tokens to be used, so they could quite literally just say you cant use tokens for link summons and that solves most of the problem cards too, if you want to worry about consistent rulings between mechanics.
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
Except that’d be a hard nerf to links as a whole, which they won’t allow until they want to force you into buying the next mechanic (*cries in MR4*)
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@johnathanlemus5584
@johnathanlemus5584 2 жыл бұрын
Always love these type of videos, explained why they’re banned and if they should comeback.
@franklinyupa899
@franklinyupa899 2 жыл бұрын
9:18 As of May 17, 2022, it's now limited to 1.
@fatdawg21
@fatdawg21 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I’ve barely played Yu-Gi-Oh but your videos are amazingly straight to the point and easy to watch. I love your videos bro keep it up
@stefilordofsmugness4108
@stefilordofsmugness4108 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Hiru!
@maskofthedragon
@maskofthedragon 2 жыл бұрын
6:31 The funny thing is that GC and DD had a format where they were unbanned, yet a dogshit card like Yata hasn't been given a shot
@jokerofmorocco
@jokerofmorocco 2 жыл бұрын
And that format was GOAT Format
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
Yata likely won't ever get a chance as long as any form of hand looping or hand breaking exists. You would probably literally need to ban every single card that discards a card from your opponents hand for Yata to be able to come back and not be a problem. It would still punish non-conservative play though and probably still be degenerate as even with every 'discard a card from your opponent's hand'-like effect gone, you'd literally just need to force your opponent to expend all their resources and then drop Yata on them and unless they can outlast the damage they take, they lose.
@maskofthedragon
@maskofthedragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 Hand ripping is so non-existent in this game, to the point people are forced to use a -1 trap card to touch the opponents hand at all
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
@@maskofthedragon Trickstar Reincarnation + Droll & Lock Bird I'm pretty sure can enable that as the former isn't a hard once per turn. There's also the Gottoms loop that Virtual Worlds can still do. Don't believe either are that consistent though. The fact that it promotes such play is problematic.
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 the damage is the least of it. itslike the videos states: if someone drops yata on you you need ot have an immediateresponse ot prevent its effect from gonig off....otherwise you are NEVER gonna be able ot out it.
@Mick3ytheManager
@Mick3ytheManager 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha I love how you explain things in these videos. It’s so well thought but slightly out dated. They actually took Yata off the banned list and it has all the tools to play how it did back in the OG days. I can’t wait to build my old yata lock deck with all the new cards lol
@Hue_Sam
@Hue_Sam 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been 18 years Everyone’s Childhood Trauma is now coming back, and no one’s gonna use it.
@Yooneek696969
@Yooneek696969 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. It’s the only reason I got back into yugioh this year
@gabrielkawa3477
@gabrielkawa3477 2 жыл бұрын
Whoo, older school cards! I was waiting for this :)
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 2 жыл бұрын
I think changing the text on substitoad so that it's quite literally just lone-fire for frogs would be a better way of balancing it. Make it so it has to tribute itself, but it's a soft once per turn instead of a hard once per turn. It's already not a Frog monster, so it can't summon another copy of itself. That alone limits it's potential if it has to tribute itself. But if you can find a way to summon multiple copies, then it becomes pretty powerful, but not broken.
@daichi-ChimkinBrat
@daichi-ChimkinBrat 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw you in the Ori stream chat, did not expect you to pop up in a Hololive stream lol, just wanted to say your Yugioh videos are always fun and interesting to watch! Keep it up!
@okeanos317
@okeanos317 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get a list of banned cards that can come off the ban list with a hard once per turn,I'd def would love to see that
@AngelaGonzalez-sf1yx
@AngelaGonzalez-sf1yx 2 жыл бұрын
Magical scientist does have a wider selection of monsters to choose from then instant fusion. If brought back at a hard once per turn it will still see play. It will also compliment instant fusion
@ricardopjproductions
@ricardopjproductions 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting for you to talk about Yata Garasu so soon
@nessajeong
@nessajeong 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the shenanigans you could do today with Magical Scientist and its banned friends. Make a Cherubini to search Dandylion then loop Norden and Dandylion for link fodder.
@EinDose
@EinDose 2 жыл бұрын
Cimo's progression series showed that Magical Scientist is perhaps most powerful in later formats as a one-card engine to build multiple Xyz monsters.
@shinygiveaways1920
@shinygiveaways1920 2 жыл бұрын
@@EinDose Magical scientist sucked before synchro though right?
@EinDose
@EinDose 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinygiveaways1920 I'm not aware of a lot of testing around Magical Scientist in the eras after its ban, but it's only useful in really swing-y OTK situations. I can imagine it would find little use in the GX era because of it; just no real purpose for it at the time. I can only imagine it'd be lackluster in the synchro era, too. No real use for vomiting out a bunch of low-level fusion monsters that wouldn't be better served by more legitimate strategies. ...come to think of it, I'm actually not sure what Magical Scientist might've been intended for at the time. FTKs aren't it, and its summons are too low-level for it to be an emergency board-breaker to knock over beaters like a Blue-Eyes. They can't attack direct, so it's not a 'push for game' situation...
@totalwartimelapses6359
@totalwartimelapses6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@EinDose Sorry in advance if I didn't read your comment properly but um...you said Magical Scientist wasn't used for FTKs and wasn't useful in the GX era...are you by any chance unaware of the Magical Scientist FTK that involves Catapult Turtle? If you are, then your reply doesn't make much sense, unless you're talking about using MS without Catapult Turtle...but why wouldn't people do that if CT is available at 3? In the Synchro era he could still be used in the FTK but also can help in summoning very high level Synchros
@EinDose
@EinDose 2 жыл бұрын
@@totalwartimelapses6359 Yeah, you misread. I'm saying that reasonably speaking Magical Scientist is ONLY useful for OTKs. He only lived to see Catapult Turtle, but reasonably if it was instead Catapult Turtle that got banned for that, Scientist would've gone on to fit into others. I'm just not sure of anyone's really labbed him in the GX era; I only know of some scary combos in the Xyz era. I do think he reasonably could've been used to make some big Synchros in that era, but he would actually be limited by Tuners; at that time I actually believe he couldn't have made a Synchro solo (Sea Monster of Theseus released in 2017). Meaning that he couldn't be a one-card engine like he could with Catapult Turtle or Link/Xyz monsters; you could still use him, but he wouldn't be so top-of-his-class, he'd have competition.
@ReneFredes
@ReneFredes 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do deck analysis videos too
@blastodermis
@blastodermis 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a clause "you can't use this card for link summoning" be a better fix for level eater?
@Klang4evre
@Klang4evre 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 2 жыл бұрын
All of the Tuners banned because of Halquifibrax would be fixed with it
@fredyramirez3035
@fredyramirez3035 2 жыл бұрын
Another option I can think of is giving it a cost. Like the one they did with makyura. Kill te viability of repeating with a once per turn/duel AND a banishing after activating the effect
@gmtatum
@gmtatum 2 жыл бұрын
17:42 That "Hard No" was straight out of Letterkenney. Pitter patter ya degens. Yous always makes greats videos on banned cards TheDuelLogs, and that's whats I appreciates abouts you.
@cooldes4593
@cooldes4593 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite series on the platform
@AzIgaziMakk
@AzIgaziMakk 2 жыл бұрын
I havent played competative since 2008 basically but still loves the videos (even is there some incorrect informations). Just interesting to see how the game changed. Like back in the days if someone would told is higher chance to Unban Yata then Graceful Charity or Delinquent Duo everybody would have just laughed cuz Yata was just so broken it could have just won you the game so easily i won Traditional games later just because of Yata not even without fancy combo just hit once the opponent has no traps to stop it and no monster or can deal with the monster easily it's just over cuz Yata comes back to hand.
@clericofchaos1
@clericofchaos1 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, i didn't know level eater was banned. I haven't seen it played since the synchro days and just assumed it had been power crept.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 2 жыл бұрын
Link monsters changed a lot of things including breaking older otherwise terrible or balanced cards like Grinder Golem which wasn't created with Link monsters in mind.
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205 2 жыл бұрын
- Dandylion can also be sent to the GY by Cherubini - Yata Garasu is a wind that can trigger Divine Wind of the Mist Valley - Magical Scientist can Summon Rhongomyniad with 5 materials
@dark_yyevannroxie2309
@dark_yyevannroxie2309 2 жыл бұрын
Or in my opinion to fix level eater, it can either only be trivuted for a tribute summon, or used as a material for a synchro summon. Since, you know, it was designed with that in mind.
@johnhughes8797
@johnhughes8797 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only 1 waiting for a pendulum version of this series for like Astrograph sorcerer etc
@ninomitchell2039
@ninomitchell2039 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still kind of bitter about level eater. My go to deck was synchro focussed and, on a good day, i could abuse a level eater/ quillbolt hedgehog/ quickdraw combo to a good degree. Best part is, otherwise my deck (though admittedly not the best) outside of eater and wall of revealing light was never banned
@SAMURIADI
@SAMURIADI 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see level eater back with the restriction it cant be used as link material synchro decks where fun to duel against
@AngelaGonzalez-sf1yx
@AngelaGonzalez-sf1yx 2 жыл бұрын
To this day I still get PTSD flashbacks of the yata lock
@VorjuMeidear
@VorjuMeidear 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day having like 2 or 3 other duelists besides me who were actually running yata garasu and we did have quite a few duels where is it decided the game OR was way too late so the opponent ran out of cards before killing his opponent xD those sweet sweet times
@letsmakeit110
@letsmakeit110 2 жыл бұрын
so those players had absolutely zero ways to special summon in their deck? No monster reborn, premature burial, call of the haunted, chaos monster, maurauding captain, rock spirit, etcetcetc? stop lying.
@etsaorned
@etsaorned 2 жыл бұрын
To think that Yata garasu is finally unbanned just 5 months after this video, something i never thought would happen
@frosteagle464
@frosteagle464 2 жыл бұрын
your next video could be top ten traps that can either special its self or special summon other monsters by banishing it self.from the grave
@kaminonatsu379
@kaminonatsu379 2 жыл бұрын
The destiny hero malicious and level eater link combo is nasty.
@DKQuagmire
@DKQuagmire 2 жыл бұрын
i would love it if you made a video on the limited/ forbidden list for Yugioh Duel Links, as their limited mechanic is way more restrictive to the point that you can't have more than 2 cards in a deck that are on the limited 2 list. theres even a limited 3 list, which actually completely killed off Lunalights, since 2 of the level 4 monsters where put on the limitted 3 list at the same time, and since you can only have 3 limit 3 cards in your deck, you had to juggle between wanting to have 2 of 1 card and 1 of the other card.
@cottwhimzy
@cottwhimzy 2 жыл бұрын
For Yata you could also make it so it also gains another effect when normal summoned or flipped face up where it cannot be normal summoned during your next turn. This way you can't forever lock an opponent out of their draw, at least not with Yata. You could probably do something weird for the turns where you can't summon Yata but imagine the effort and probably lack of consistency it'd take for that.
@nine_tails137
@nine_tails137 2 жыл бұрын
I never used Yata-Garasu back in the day, so I didn't understand why it was banned, until you explained it.
@brandol75
@brandol75 2 жыл бұрын
Tokens can get a general ruling that they can't be used as link materials. For yata can get errata that it can't activate it's effect during the turn you activate effects other than yata's. Level eater can get the errata that it can't also be used as link material. Besides of hard once per turn, give also to scientist that the fusion can't be tributed.
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 2 жыл бұрын
"fixing" links as a whole doesnt need ot have that. the entire problem of the link emchanic si the existance of Link 1 monsters that enable you to create advantage out of effectivly nothing.
@johnnyjohnson4265
@johnnyjohnson4265 2 жыл бұрын
Dandylion and Level can be unbanned with the clause of them not being used as link materia(tokens in dandylions case)l, both of them were fine in some niche decks such as synchro spam. Yata not being able to used back to back while weird would somewhat fix it as your opponent will have to endure a turn but has a small chance. Magicial scientist and subsitoad being HOPT, in scientist case might also wanna add an effect negate just to be safe
@michaelgunnels9694
@michaelgunnels9694 2 жыл бұрын
As a person whose been on the receiving end of the yata lock with guardian sphinx back in the day I'm glad that it is still on the ban list
@CharkDragmire
@CharkDragmire 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the giant explain the banned series video
@DavidBrave244
@DavidBrave244 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, i have read the description and try to find the background video for dandylion, but i cannot find it. Do you mind to give a link of the specific video?
@mageius
@mageius 2 жыл бұрын
the one thing I would love to see is legitimately a version of the modern game even if it's in say a video game form where you could actually play with the old versions of cards. Not talking older formats but actually seeing what some of the combinations between older cards and newer cards would be.
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 2 жыл бұрын
You can play without a banlist on YGO Pro, and you can (with a lot of effort) make custom cards in that game - so you could restore cards to their original effects and play them there.
@mageius
@mageius 2 жыл бұрын
@@BloodfelX I know but it would be nice for Konami to at least have one official way for people to enjoy things like that. And yes I'm aware that's never going to happen but could you imagine if it did and how fun it could be.
@marco4317
@marco4317 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean like traditional format? It does exist, on that format banned cards are actually limited (you can't use pre errata cards as far as I know) They make official tournaments of traditional format, and best decks are pure zoo and orcust
@cephalosjr.1835
@cephalosjr.1835 2 жыл бұрын
@@BloodfelX Also Duelingbook, but that’s manual.
@mageius
@mageius 2 жыл бұрын
@@marco4317 I remember when traditional format was actually created, (yeah been playing for that long) but no I'm talking about a format where you could see how some of the old versions of cards and how they might have interacted with new cards. For example Witch being a non once per turn effect that would still let you summon the card. Think how would that have impacted the modern game, would it still see play or not. Some of the more broken cards I agree might have been needed but having the ability to still play them in that unbroken form an official way would be fun even in a video game. I also have tried speed running legacy of the duelist link evolution and it's actually a little wired with a few cards that were changed just after the last update or just before the last update ao that some decks actually require different cards or play entirely different due to it. Heck just a little after that update whatever the creature is that lets you get to use multiple traps from your hand was changed so it could only use one yet it's still unchanged while others have been. Exodia is the fastest no banlist deck but if exchange of the Spirit was still its original version that one is 10x faster just due to abusing painful choice and other cards.
@DynamicMagi
@DynamicMagi 2 жыл бұрын
You could play yata garasu with ojamas to lock the opponents field zones, could add a sphere mode in there and a lava golem maybe
@TGAusar
@TGAusar 2 жыл бұрын
You could change Yata garasu to shuffle itself into the deck the end phase after it attacked
@derekurbina7371
@derekurbina7371 2 жыл бұрын
YATA GARASU, lives once again...
@amunve
@amunve 2 жыл бұрын
Level eater can be unbanned by add text”cannot be used as link material”
@javsandarts
@javsandarts 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that play was coming when you mentioned magical scientist
@Timpandashomp
@Timpandashomp 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear about top 10 current strong decks that are being played now, don't know if you have done one of those already.
@triggerken1422
@triggerken1422 2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a "Broken combos" list? On YGOPro, showing step by step broken combos of the past and how they worked? It would be interesting as someone who hasn't dueled around those era's
@scadooshy5161
@scadooshy5161 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing I like about playing digital card games so much like LoR is so many of these cards could just be fixed with simple nerfs/wording changes, but because erratas arent done too much they get banned.
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
Wish we had an archetype for amaryllis of fire plant monsters that destroy cards from hand or/and field to summon themselves or activates some of their effects. Also low level monsters could generate tokens when destroyed by effects.
@mathibell5236
@mathibell5236 2 жыл бұрын
Level eater could get out of the banlist if you errata the csrd to say "after you use this effect you can only special summon synchro monsters from the extradeck for the rest of the turn" because if you change it to once per turn you kill it for the synchro decks
@stevenrhodes8338
@stevenrhodes8338 2 жыл бұрын
Top ten idea make it about which banned cards would be the most played even with the most restricted errata the card could have or however you see fit
@Stro2101
@Stro2101 2 жыл бұрын
Yata is extremely bad, it should go to 3. Remember his effect only revolves if you manage to attack. The amount of resources that you need to do that is the same that you need to make a OTK, so instead of winning with Yata Lock, you just OTK. In the past to make an OTK was very difficult, but now there is a lot decks that can do that.
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 2 жыл бұрын
One should more ask themselves why it should get unbanned tho. Does it make certain decks better or make gameplay quality better? Not really, it just enables some stupid unhealthy gamestate that nobody would want to be in, even if it would never happen in modern yugioh. It's just one less card Konami has to worry about being abused when they print new cards. So it's completely fine on the banlist. No one would profit from it anyways.
@zad_rasera
@zad_rasera 2 жыл бұрын
@@slenderman4788 I guess this is true. Nobody would celebrate if Yata gets unbanned.
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about three copies, but maybe one to test the water. If at three, it might be too easy to use Dark Hole then summon Yata-Garasu, but that the same time, it seems rare for someone to not have a negate effect on standby mode. I would not be surprised if Yata-Garasu would require your opponent to have a certain number of cards in the hand, not not activate that effect if you summon other monsters.
@Stro2101
@Stro2101 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderrobins7497 the main problem if you manage to do that, then you should able to do a OTK instead.
@irondaggergaming8268
@irondaggergaming8268 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see all of the banned card videos compiled when your done.
@angelodelavara1050
@angelodelavara1050 2 жыл бұрын
For ways to unbanned certain cards you can just put a restriction like you cannot link summon withs this card OR you can only synchro summon with this card This might work for dandylion or level eater
@Aozame
@Aozame 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like Yata-Garasu's only still banned out of inertia, and the overall speed and power of the game has left it way behind.
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 2 жыл бұрын
There's just no compelling reason to unban it. It doesn't help anybody anyways and is just yet another thing they need to consider when making new cards.
@sworddomo1951
@sworddomo1951 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like magical scientist to be a psychic or alien retrained card. Where you can remove alien counters to bring out an alien based on number of counters, or opt psychic that costs like 3k.
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Magical Scientist, They Kinda Already did fix the card with Retort Fusion.
@taninsuwannatri8411
@taninsuwannatri8411 2 жыл бұрын
18:00 There is a weaker version of “Magical Scientist” called “Ready Fusion”.”Ready Fusion” is a spell card thats have same effects as “Magical Scientist” but it can only Special Summon 1 Level 6 or lower non-Effect Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck.Secondly that Fusion Monster whom Special Summoned by its effect can’t attack and it will be destroyed during your End Phase and finally this card has a hard once per turn.
@yettel8shrjriene922
@yettel8shrjriene922 2 жыл бұрын
Ready fusion is just weaker instant fusion bruh
@Elliasal
@Elliasal 2 жыл бұрын
They could give level eater a level themed restriction, like it can only be sent to the graveyard if used to summon a monster with a level
@rex19797
@rex19797 2 жыл бұрын
i think a better way to errata Level Eater would be to prevent it from being used as link matterial, since the card is pretty fine with synchros using it
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 2 жыл бұрын
that's basically the jjist of it. once levle eater is used, the owner is locked into synchros for the rest of the turn.
@imlatinguy2134
@imlatinguy2134 2 жыл бұрын
The spirit deck using shinobaron maybe can use yata, if you return all monsters with shinobaron can ss yata in your hand to skip the draw phase, with shinobaroness actually u can ss it from the deck but she return spells so u need the 2 rituals, also with nikitama u can search it from the deck, u will not win the duel cuz the barons retun to hand but is a free -1, probably using amano iwato is better but is a way to use it (ss with the barons ignores the spirit disadventages and dont let the card go to your hand). Sorry if i misspell something, my english is bad
@dogekage
@dogekage 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me what song you’re playin the background?
@nick-playercharacter8583
@nick-playercharacter8583 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: Top 10 archetypes that improved the game. Stuff like gishkis changing the way ritual cards are treated, harpie ladies running beta tests for archetypes as we know them today, etc. Maybe a better name would be Top 10 Most Impactful Archetypes.
@AlexisStreams
@AlexisStreams 2 жыл бұрын
if they changed the text of level eater to say at when it's special summoned from the grave it gets removed from play that wont work because as i learned from Plaguespreader zombies effect if you have imperial iron wall on the field you can negate its banishment effect HOWEVER if they gave level eater a once per duel effect it could come off the banned list
@irisxia2806
@irisxia2806 2 жыл бұрын
In Ocg, level eater was banned at 2016. I believe that is before link monsters. It is used in a dark synchro deck, which use TG hyper librarians and can make 3 psy framelord omega in one turn.
@AMidgetWalrus
@AMidgetWalrus 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see if Level Eater got ab errata forbidding it from being used for a Link Summon
@MrAlko911
@MrAlko911 2 жыл бұрын
Frog links would be cool. Apo toad and dupe lock seems pretty good
@matthewmcmillan1337
@matthewmcmillan1337 2 жыл бұрын
For Yata if they added the condition of no spec summons at all the turn it comes out That way the controller has their own time limit before decking out
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 2 жыл бұрын
3:27 it's hilarious to me that all 3 of those monsters are mentioned in the same sentence, and those happen to be the 3 monsters I used the exact same recording with text-to-speech to dub over the names in my "why these cards are banned in as few words as possible" shorts. I went in alphabetical order, so I actually did gofu first, the dubbed over it for dandylion, then dubbed over that for grinder golem. I thought it was funny, but sadly I don't think anyone really noticed.
@CaptainJLinebeck
@CaptainJLinebeck 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that Level Eater was banned in the OCG way before Link Monsters came out in it due all the oppressive Synchro Monsters it could bring out easily like PSY Framelord Omega
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan
@EduardoWeidmanBarijan 2 жыл бұрын
I think they don't want to reprint old cards with erratas and that is why they keep them in the ban list. But it could be fixed like in the rules itself. They could say all cards have a "once per turn" effect if not listed. That is my 2 cents
@yeasstt
@yeasstt 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Yata Lock. Now that Yata is back, I hope someone can find a way to guarantee it again
@pedromoreira2875
@pedromoreira2875 2 жыл бұрын
Idea for a video: top 10 cards in the ban list that could probably come out if had one per turn.
@gliscaradu1424
@gliscaradu1424 2 жыл бұрын
for nr 5 id also bar it from links, this list only convinced me that links suck for some mildly strong monsters that have neat strong affects
@mmmsheehoo
@mmmsheehoo 2 жыл бұрын
Yata could have a restriction like, you cannot summon or use Yata's effect on your next turn and your opponent draws 2 cards for their normal draw on their 2nd draw phase after yata garasu's effect
@Stro2101
@Stro2101 2 жыл бұрын
Na Yata doesn't need any restrictions, why use Yata when you can OTK.