The Metaphys Archetype - Failed Cards and Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

[@Slayerthecrow]

Metaphys looks like a deck made for the anime, it's passive enough for the M.C. to come up with a plan and destructive enough to put it on a pinch, probably if it appeared in the anime, it would have more and better support.

[@dakotastein9499]

they honestly run just fine with me...especially when i throw in cards like soul absorb and inferno tempast.

[@acidgolem2132]

Nah this deck looks and feel like a movie antagonist deck. It got it all, a gimmick that terrified casual players while having a glaring weaknesses that the protagonist/good player can take advantage of. Card art that is a reference to old classic monsters And a boss monster that is hard to summon but did very little to help out.

[@Funloverparty]

I could see it in the GX Anime when everyone started joining that white cult

[@johnnickfanaccount3492]

​@@Funloverpartyexcept wyrms didn't exist in gx

[@streetgamer3452]

@@johnnickfanaccount3492then change them to dragons….

[@fctof21]

metaphys was such a fun archetype in duel links, was one of my favorites in there

[@HotRed00]

Boring to play against though

[@ValunarTonix]

​@@HotRed00your standby phase? No, OUR standby phase.

[@vyrax401]

The deck is fine untill they put aloof lupine in f&l list because thunder dragon dominating every single rank game and tournament

[@Sh1ranu1]

@@vyrax401well aloof is coming of the ban list soon, which may not shoot The deck into any relevance but the consistency boost will be nice

[@GregKing-cl1gc]

same here, if built properly it can really carry your games and make some turn 3 or 4 wins look easy, although with most of it effects being only focused on your own board building and laying out high atk monsters it has a very hard time responding to the incredibly fast pace that most other decks have at it's power level, and struggles to adapt to anything that countspells it. i also found that if someone was running something that also relied on summoning cards that are above 3500 atk and def, you really had to pull teeth out to even stand much a chance. while i loved the deck and used it for large majority of my dual links experience, if you didnt get 2 or 3 cards that started your combos or if you got shutdown early, it was nearly impossible to win against a more main stream player. not to say it's weak, it just needs to to really fill out it's combos and to have it not be locked to your standby phase

[@lukemacinnes5124]

metaphys has a lot of potential due to its design considering it's just a bunch of iconic monsters turned into wyrm "ghostly" versions they could quite easily make the deck good if they went through and gave them versions of more recent iconic cards and somewhat mimicked thier effects, lots of potential to capitalise on and if they actually pushed the deck it would probably be possible to get a lot of people into it, like yeah armed dragon and horus is cool but half the other cards are based on cards most people probably don't remember, like give them metaphys firewall and metaphys code talker cards or something and give them some actual plays during thier turna dn they'd probably be decent, considereing they really come off a s a prototype for ghoti design wise

[@nunyabiznes33]

I dunno if they're still making animes but if only there's a fan in Konami that would push for Metaphys to be a villain deck. Maybe it'll be like Malefic that have cards inspired by some of those played by protags.

[@ElTwOJaY]

I wouldn’t call Metaphys a failed archetype. I’d call it incomplete

[@raisp6073]

It definitely feels incomplete, like they stopped giving them support midway

[@radityaerlang9206]

Its incomplete because it failed, they didnt see the value in continuing them

[@ElTwOJaY]

@@radityaerlang9206 Look it’s that guy

[@omabang5002]

@@radityaerlang9206 I think It's the other way around. Metaphys is failed because it's incomplete.

[@mightychilli1356]

@@radityaerlang9206 what i find really funny is that one of its cards is a "Nephthys" card, which is another, not so great archetype held back by almost the exact same thing, there destroyed effects trigger in YOUR next Standby Phase, which kinda killed their potency as even a rouge option. But even this archetype feels better than Metaphys, they do have access to generic Ritual support (Yes, even Pre-Prep).

[@sahloknir6287]

this was also very strong in Duel links for a looong time until it got powercrept & hit by nerfs to banishing options that were actually just intended to hurt thunder dragons..

[@HotFootBunny]

Still hate all thunder drag players for that, basically killed metaphys on there own, the bans didn't even hurt there deck in tell they started to just ban the thunder drags themselves

[@rosem325]

Then they released that character with a skill that skipped the standby and the deck died for good

[@snailracer4082]

I'm happy to see you improving again, TheDuelLogs! For instance, this video specifies which packs debuted the topic-relevant cards and explains those cards' competitive histories with other archetypes over the years. Both enhance the quality of this video's analysis and together turn that evaluation into a story! Thanks to all that on top of an ending summary and expressed gratitude to your audience, I am loving this series more and more! May you and your team keep up the great work!

[@JonkoSplonko]

I think a great episode of failed mechanics would be the Rituals as a mechanic. They are pretty much Extra deck monsters trapped in the Main Deck, and their effects needed to be straight up broken to work (Which could be considered similar to the case of ABC Dragon Buster as Unions as a failed mechanic)

[@kyurei4478]

I agree. Their card doesn't need to stay in the main deck. Or if you keep it, give them broken effects to compensate. They could still change their philosophy and decide to make them significantly better than Extra deck monsters from now on. Either that or you could give very good utility to their Ritual Summon card as it's already the case for few ones.

[@godyeeter3606]

It wanted to be meta so bad it even put "meta" in its name.

[@okita_souji_alter]

I constantly play these cards in master duel and i really hope they get more support one day they're so fun

[@theinfernity1799]

Malefic could also use some love again. Malefic paradigm can special summon a banished level 8 synchro dragon. But there is only one target and that is stardust dragon if you have used it to summon malefic stardust. That's such a flaw😅 I wish they would make a malefic monster that can summon itself banishing ANY monster from the special deck so you can use it to banish any level 8 synchro dragon and then resummon that monster with paradigm dragon...

[@bulbaa2241]

​@@theinfernity1799maybe if they made other malefic synchros like a malefic red dragon archfiend, or maybe they could make a malefic galaxy eyes for XYZ (just make it one of the XYZ ones so that it's another less bricky option)

[@theinfernity1799]

@@IyoMaestro Like Malefic paradigm dragon in my last sentence of my comment^^?

[@andrewplayz443]

@@theinfernity1799I thought you couldn’t summon from graveyard/banished if it wasn’t properly summons first

[@theinfernity1799]

@@andrewplayz443 Read the card that I mentioned... Why does no one check the card that I mentioned? I guess typical yugioh players lol

[@WarTex]

Thx for shedding light on the downfall and the forgotten archtype which I love myself. I hope one day KONAMI decides to make some more cards as this archtyoe is actually design-wise pretty awesome, retraining older monster into a new Light. Only time will tell.

[@0mn0m15]

Konami is bringing back some old cards (and I mean OLD like since Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon) in the form of the Memento archetype.

[@Darkusflame]

I found success with Metaphys in Duel Links a few years ago, but sadly power creep has been pretty extreme there over the last year or two

[@Nintendomasterone]

Same. Tons of games won from people not reading that tyrant dragon would be unaffected by traps lol

[@Badasspredator]

Duel Links smaller deck and field format was genuinely good for Metaaphys

[@rudyramadhana4127]

need Ragnarok to push metaphys a bit

[@acidgolem2132]

God I remember playing against metaphys as a subterror player. You guys were so hard to deal with

[@vyrax401]

The banlist destroy this deck too, they limit 2 aloof lupine so you cant play it alongside dark sarcophagus or kiteroid

[@pagananarchist4723]

I honestly didn't even know that Metaphys was an archetype. I misread the title and thought you were talking about the Nephthys archetype until you mentioned Metaphys Armed Dragon 😅

[@kingscourge6031]

Yeah they are an archetype. I played them on and off back in the day and I basically turned it into semi gran maju, Soul absorption pile.

[@mateusrp1994]

Funnily enough, Nephthys is another archetype screwed by a similar thing as Mataphys, their floating effects only activating during the next standby phase.

[@pagananarchist4723]

@mateusrp1994 yeah, and it didn't make much sense to me that they pushed Nephthys to being a ritual archetype when Sacred Phoenix really didn't have anything to do with rituals

[@HazeEmry]

​@@pagananarchist4723Nephtys and Simorgh got weird archetypes built around them. My poor borbs

[@13thKingMu]

​@@mateusrp1994not just next standby phase, it's "your" standby Means they're alot slower than metaphys by a mile and the only one that doesn't have it is conductor

[@KaiserTheDemon]

Metaphys is also not entirely bad in Duel Links, granted only Lupine and Decoy are the only normal summons in the deck. It can make a decent anti-meta blind second deck

[@Hungryfox1]

Secrets of Eternity was released in January 2015. This set introduced the Infernoids, a series of monsters that can Special Summon themselves to the field by banishing other Infernoids from either the hand or graveyard. Notable cards in set include Farfa, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss, Qliphort Monolith, Uni-Zombie, Nephe Shaddoll Fusion, and a card that would bolster Satellarknight to combat the Burning Abyss Shaddoll meta, Stellarknight Constellar Diamond. In this series, both Nyhmnim and myself will be opening 24 booster packs or 1 box of a core Yu-Gi-Oh! booster set. We will build a deck and play a best 2 out of 3, and the winner will receive a small prize to upgrade their deck. HOWEVER! Each episode, we will open another box of the next set that was released moving in chronological order, constantly upgrading our decks before dueling each other at the end of each episode. This is the Yu-Gi-Oh! Progression Series.

[@ryuuohdeltaplus7936]

*hOwEvEr*

[@charlesward5170]

One thing I thought would be a cool idea to modernize the deck is new retrains based on the evolved forms the original variants of many cards in the deck recieved. Daedalus -> Neo Daedalus Nephthys -> Cerulian Phoenix And maybe Tyrant Burst for Tyrant, even though they aren’t directly related. For a new boss I would love to see a new synchro with some caveat that allow both level 7 and 8 metaphys monster to make it, with executioners protection, and the ability to negate a card effect by banishing itself to special summon a metaphys card from your graveyard or banish zone, then special summoning itself back during the next standby phase. Final three things I would like, a monster that can special summon itself by banishing a card in your hand, a card to allow you to banish a metaphys card from your deck to add a banished metaphys card to your hand, and a metaphys version of psychic end punisher because I run that for no other reason then they can make it and it’s funny.

[@cerberos1]

I’m 1 minute into the video and I already love the fact they made a metaphys normal monster then made a metaphys synchro that use normal monster has material for one of the effect but is impossible to summon with the first one

[@kyurei4478]

Indeed. I just wonder why they chose the Lvl 6 Horus form instead of the final Lvl 8 form since it's a level 8 monster and the Metaphys Armed Dragon corresponds to the Lvl 7 form. That means it could have been usable to synchro summon a level 8 Metaphys Horus based on the Lvl 8 form with a level 1 tuner.

[@MiscGaming08]

​@@kyurei4478 Because they're making support for metaphys i swear

[@kyurei4478]

@@MiscGaming08 Maybe, I hope so at least. I like the archetype and it deserves more level 4 monsters to be more consistent that's for sure. Love your Miscellaneousaurus pfp btw. I'd love an archetype based on it could exist but the only other similar card to it I've found is Souleating Oviraptor sadly.

[@Notbigbando]

These were printed too late and didnt't receive nearly enough cards. So sad since with this archetype, it should be easy to make more.

[@melleen629]

This is one of the archetypes I'd love to get support for

[@allanjerome5404]

There are these set of cards that were release way back then that have effects based on its placement on the field. Then, there's also card such as Senet Switch that allows a player to move a card to adjacent card zone. There are also a group of cards that have effects revolving around chain effects, some card only activates on chain 4 or higher. It would be kind of cool if they made an archtype from these card groups.

[@HazeEmry]

Chain effects while not having an archetype, are more well known with chain burn strategies. A monster archetype for it would be too clunky... Mekk-Knights are an archetype kinda are what the first thing you wrote. Just woke up, can't English atm sorry

[@nightmarearcade2663]

The archetype valantz does just that in fact I'm pretty sure they have a card that straight up searches senet switch.

[@giorgiostegher5504]

Regarding master duel - snow is unlimited there, and mill options (between tearlament, chaos ruler, zombie vampire, curious) are all strong, making the best metaphys deck a 60 card grass banish pile.

[@AdrianWach1]

yeah, and at that point just play ADAMANCIPATOR

[@Merilirem]

@@AdrianWach1 As a Chaos player its not the same thing at all. A chaos pile is VERY different to a pile of rocks. A metaphys pile is also not the same thing as a pile of rocks.

[@speedroidterrortop5391]

I remember when Metaphys was meta (heehee) in Duel Links, and I spent all my gems on whatever box they were in and got 3 copies of Aloof Lupine and everything. For the banlist to eradicate them actual days later. Never made that mistake again in the non free 2 play friendly Duel Links. If you play Duel Links, wait until a new banlist drops before spending gems and time on a deck, everyone.

[@DevonXM1014]

Gotta be honest, it kinda looked good on paper and was pretty decent for its playstyle. Sadly, it didn't age well.

[@florianbergmuller3937]

The thing is at this rate of the powercreep. Not many cards age well

[@nziom]

@@florianbergmuller3937 but they at least become a rogue option metaphys are too weak unfortunately

[@JuwanBuchanan]

⁠@@nziomI never saw Metaphys being good to use even as a rogue option. They had good synergy with Nordics because Nordics have a fetish for banishing, but I never saw the payoff being worth it. The Adventurer engine is just way better for Nordics.

[@ExaDat]

They arecreally good and have the potential to be really good. I think one of the problems is that they also have thw potential to be too broken, an archetype based on banishing. Also they are not anime girls so Konami doesn't care

[@Laflamme78]

They are at the high end of casual, having really strong pay offs with the big Metaphys effects, but take too long to achieve them.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

0:13 Idea to retrain Armed Dragon here (Oh, and if I remember correctly, this is one of the second highest ATK non-effect level 7 monster in the game, tied with 3 others, 2 of which were old non-effect fusions, and only surpassed with the illegal Sakyo, Swordmaster of the Far East by 100 ATK) _Metaphys Armed Dragon - Roaring Wyrm_ (LIGHT) Level 7 Wyrm/Effect _Once per turn, You can special summon this card (from your hand or GY) if you activate the effects of a “Metaphys”, “Armed Dragon” or “LV” card. If your opponent would target a “Metaphys”, “Armed Dragon” or “LV” monster for an attack or effect: You can change the target to this card. Once per turn (Quick effect), you can tribute 1 card from your hand or field: Apply 1 of the following effects until your next draw phase:_ ⚪️If a monster you control destroys an opponent’s monster by battle or inflicts battle damage: Add 1 “Metaphys”, “Armed Dragon” or “LV” card to your hand from your deck or GY. ⚪️If this card is destroyed by an opponent’s card or effects: Special summon 1 “Metaphys”, “Armed Dragon” or “LV” monster from your hand or GY in defense position. ⚪️”Metaphys”, “Armed Dragon” and “LV” monsters you control gain ATK/DEF equal to any increase or decrease in either players LP. ATK/2800 DED/1000

[@xCorvus7x]

I'm not sure I like how you mix three different archetypes here (two of which are already losely related). The ascension to the Wyrm-state should come with some kind of decoupling from old relatives for the Dragons that undergo it, as they reach a new plane of existence.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

⁠​⁠@@xCorvus7x Well this card here is already a connector to all three, and I feel the “Metaphys” cards should all have _some_ gameplay connections to the cards they were before (either by their own effects or through the effects of another related card.) And having such a connection allows ALL the related archetypes to play nicer together and with the game in general. Not to mention having cross archetype support can allow normally struggling archetypes pull out new tricks in an ever evolving game. Help keep the meta on it’s toes and all that. LV and Metaphys monsters have more or less fallen out of favor anyway, so having this would help then get back on their feet without being TOO much.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire I don't think it would help, you need to consider deck space to play all this together. If you mix too many things, the result _might_ be rogue but it will be no more than a shadow of each of the things that went into it (and if this combination of different decks depends on too many different things, it is very brittle). Well, I feel the Metaphys cards should have no gameplay connection to the cards they used to be or that surrounded the cards they used to be. Gameplay connections, i. e. working together as a deck, is the in-game equivalent of relationships between individuals but ascending to the Wyrm-state transforms the Dragons who undergo it fundamentally: now they are different beings, they have no attachment to the cards they used to work with and might even be in a completely different world. This is different than resembling their former selves in appearance and effect.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Besides, how does Metaphys Armed Dragon connect anything? What of the Armed Dragon support would even work with this Light Wyrm? The name only describes the origin of the creature.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

@@xCorvus7x Well this card in itself would BE the armed dragon support:⚪️It has multiple ways of searching them out. ⚪️It has a built in method of protection for them, which can feed into it’s ability to special summon an armed dragon from your hand/GY.⚪️ It has a method of fattening them up in ATK/DEF, which is good since if they special summon an “Armed Dragon Thunder LV10”, the LV10 gains new effects depending on the ATK of the monster that summoned it. ⚪️And of course most of this card’s effects bounce off of the actions of the Armed Dragon and other stated archetypes in general, meaning you can start a chain reaction of events that can win you the game, and can even bring _itself_ out from your hand/GY with the accumulated cards.

[@brandol75]

there are also 2 more reasons it failed: the banish triggger is only when it's banished by metaphys monsters (not by any way or at least metaphys cards, only by metaphys monsters) and there's no way to search in-archetype the spell/traps.

[@zephyron0]

Their banish effects go off if they're banished in any way. its their summon effects that rely on being summoned by a Metaphys monster. They can also search any metaphys card with Nephthys and their trap card, plus a free draw every turn with their continuous spell, so searching is not the issue. They're just way too passive and slow to set up anything meaningful, especially with their awful boss monster.

[@raisp6073]

The top thing actually not true, if they’re banished in ANY WAY their effects will trigger

[@melvinshine9841]

I've seen these cards, maybe, a combined 11 times in Master Duel, but I've never known what the hell they were trying to do and don't think I've ever lost to them.

[@chumblago]

My favorite part of this video is around 12:17 because it sums up how old yugioh "wanted" to be played 1. Generating advantage with Standby phase effects 2. Inflicting Battle damage for effects 3.Waiting to be attacked for effects Metaphys feels like an archetype that came out 20yrs too late.

[@scymension]

Metaphys is my favorite archtype. I just wish we got more support for it. It just feels way too restrictive that the effects strictly go off in the next standby phase.

[@Realdeal958]

I use Metaphys Horus on Master duel for my Pendulum decks. It doesn't always pop up but when it does it's always fun stealing my opponent's boss monster with it

[@voiletreapercoyjr.8285]

The Battleguard archetype would be interesting to see a video on. Tried meshing them with War rock and it just didn't seem to be very consistent. Anyway great video as always keep up the good work.

[@matteste]

A video on Dream Mirror could also be on the table. Just such a sad case with that archetype given their interesting playstyle. They are just too reliant on their useless field spells and their boss monsters are just too low impact to be useful.

[@maxoublue1]

I feel like the new Memento archetype is another take on the ideas Metaphys had, or at least in terms of designs. They are both Archetypes of retrained monsters (most of them being Normal Monsters), with a focus on doing something to their own monsters (banishing themselves for Metaphys, and destroying themselves for Memento), and they have a boss monster that requires banishing/shuffling 5 members of their own archetypes from your hand and/or field (Metaphys Executor) or GY (Mementoral Tecuhtlica, the Netherskull Dragon). Let's hope this new, spiritual Archetype, is good or at least decent.

[@michaellevin664]

I'd love a video on the Dragonmaids archetype one day.

[@adamantevovo5701]

but I love playing Metaphys. Even I still play them in Master Duel. really fun to play. I add Ghoti package in it. bcos in standby phase you got 8 star body for synchro summon fish. if you need 4 star body, you can use Aloof as 4 star body, banish Shif/Paces and after synchro Arionpos, banish Zep and then synchro into Askaan. yea, I still love Metaphys, wish they will got more support (seems impossible 😥)

[@nathanchristman6660]

This archetype was a menace in duel links for awhile.

[@LowTier4Life]

I always loved using Metaphys as an engine in Nordic. They're perfect targets for the Nordic link to banish to use her effect to special 3 from deck. You can get the search right away off banishing the trap and get the effects of the monsters next turn, which gets around the archetype lock of the nordic link since it wont be your turn anymore.

[@bluenote2222]

This is my favorite archetype. Thank you for making a video. I hope they add more support for it

[@nickd6303]

Metaphis is just another series of cards that feel partly complete.

[@Quintingent]

My personal favourite way to use Metaphys is alongside Nordics, as they're basically the only archetype that can benefit from being banished by Gullveig, due to their turn delay getting around her restrictions. It's not a *good* deck per se, but certainly the best use of them I've found.

[@ChillDragon]

The Video: Metaphys The Thumbnail: Mataphys.

[@Schwi02]

Fun fact in duel links there a was Skill used by Declan were u can skip the stanby phase making all your metaphys cards useless as there was no stanby phase for them to trigger u can use this multiple times until konami finally nerfed it

[@dividedyetperfect]

I do like my metaphys deck. Though it does feel unfinished.

[@DG_Raizen]

Maybe have a runic fountain like card that would allow the monster effects to go off right away versus waiting until the next standby phase.

[@happytownworld2742]

I think Dark World would make a good archtype for this series -Taught players what “cost” meant -Can’t go first -Can’t play handtraps -Best support (Danger!) is RNG based

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

Idea to make the “Metaphys” cards easier to use: _Metaphys Ascension_ Quick play spell _Tribute 1 monster with a level or rank from your hand or field: Special summon 1 “Metaphys” monster from your hand or GY who’s Level equals the level/rank of the tribute. You can banish this card from your GY (face-up or facedown). The following effects are applied while this card is banished (face-up or facedown):_ ⚪️If a “Metaphys” monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage. ⚪️If the summon or effect of a “Metaphys” you control resolves: You can add 1 “Metaphys” card of a matching name to your hand from your deck or GY. ⚪️If a “Metaphys” card from your hand or field is banished: You can shuffle 1 banished card you own back into your deck.

[@xCorvus7x]

The thing about face-down banishment is that the cards banished face-down have no bearing on the game. The owner can look at them and technically choose which one to move elsewhere, if a card the effect of which moves all kinds of banished cards gives them that choice (such as Arise-Heart), but their effects cannot be activated and don't apply. Face-down banished cards are also private information, perhaps even if your opponent saw which card was banished face-down, so it's not like they can confirm the text of your face-down banished cards. If you just remove the brackets altogether (because unless otherwise specified cards are always banished face-up, I think), this would work. However, if you want to keep that option, you could instead turn the passive effect into a lingering one, that is activated by banishing the card from your GY either face-up or face-down. „You can banish this card from your GY either face-up or face-down; for the rest of the duel, apply the following effects: ⚪If a “Metaphys” monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage. ⚪If the summon or effect of a “Metaphys” you control resolves: You can add 1 “Metaphys” card of a matching name to your hand from your deck or GY. ⚪If a “Metaphys” card from your hand or field is banished: You can shuffle 1 banished card you own back into your deck.“ This way your opponent can disrupt this play with D.D. Crow before you regain priority on your turn, but once activated the effect is always active and it doesn't matter what happens to the card afterwards.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

@@xCorvus7x I like that.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Cool ^^ Besides that, the card is solid and I'd like to see it printed. However, it's _very_ similar to Dracocension, and since the summoned Metaphys has little to do with the monster tributed, and the card gives you the option to tribute a Wyrm or Metaphys monster for another Metaphys monster, it's less an Ascension than a Metaphys Interruption, Interlude, or simply an Exchange or Shift. I guess it might also be a Metaphys Takeover, Arrival, or Descent but if you tributed a Metaphys monster, the Metaphys have already arrived/descended. I imagine that aside from searching out a Metaphys monster, you'd also use this card to dodge targeted negation; both these uses fall into the niche of Heavenly Dragon Circle. This doesn't really matter, though, it's just a question of flavour (a topic where we may have to agree to disagree).

[@dq7860]

Give them a Trade-In that banishes instead of discards.

[@Netherwolf6100]

There needs to be a card, maybe a monster that as long as it exists in the graveyard and sent their by card effect, all Metaphys monsters are banished by its effect. Also maybe a continuous spell that allows you to Special Summon Metaphys monsters the moment their banished to trigger their effects right away.

[@roge2342]

nah dont diss my wyrms like that, I like playing these slow dudes so much

[@kamuidl7299]

I wonder if Symphonic Warriors have ever seen play in competitive ygo

[@euric869]

In Zefra abomination piles they do.

[@omabang5002]

Metaphys Archetype have a special place in my heart because it's the deck who I claimed King of Games rank with in Duel Links. I still have it in YGOMD as Metaphys Swordsoul. Feels amazing when M. Daedalus effect worked lol

[@AdrianWach1]

I used to run some insane metaphys builds and got to diamond in MD running them with necroface almost purely. Power creep got them when most of the meta decks prefer you to banish their cards and decks and then they go + off your effects. Also runick beat them down pretty bad. Genuinely one of the most fun decks I have ever run, and I look back on it fondly. Some core support for this deck could easily revive it though! Likely, it would just be a continuous spell or trap that pushes them even deeper into irrelevance.

[@samuelcastillo5246]

For Metaphys I use 1-2 of cross breed, it's a pretty good addition as a small engine

[@SugarrCainn]

Played it a lot in Master Duel, good fun! Decoy Dragon especially was great, majority of Master Duel players don't read card effects and just ram into it blindly haha Not mentioned in video, but another problem with Decoy Dragon was it's Pendulum effect didn't count as summoning by a Metaphys monster effect, so monsters it summoned while in Pendulum zone didn't trigger their effects. Never played Executor for the reasons stated in video, but it's one of the very few cards ever to have the "Can not be banished" protection. Might be the only one that also has "Can not be destroyed by card effects" together with the banish protection.

[@sirknightjcb9310]

As much as it pains me to admit, a fantastic addition to add onto the Failed Cards and Mechanics would be "War Rock". An already outdated Battle Phase focused archetype that barely lives, because one of its main enablers is a RotA for its Spell/Trap Cards that doubles as a floodgate. And all of them fail in comparison to another existing battle related archetype "Amazoness", which had a good batch of support that includes their own RotA, more boss monsters, and Pend Monsters to swarm the field much better than "War Rocks" can.

[@mightychilli1356]

I think the War Rock arquetype fits in perfectly as a failed archetype. An archetype released in 2021 that feels like it was released in 2005.

[@mateusrp1994]

Doing a Custom Card stream around fixing each of these failed card mechanics videos could be a fun.

[@Mighty-Eight]

I think a Failed Cards episode that would be cool to look at is the Hidden Arsenal Archetypes. Because of lore and world building overruled what would be great archetypes in their card designs

[@DG_Raizen]

To be fair, Dragunity is a solid rogue option that occasionally tops. So I wouldn't say that Dragunity is a fail. However, everything else I can agree with.

[@Mighty-Eight]

True to that

[@KingToody]

Really good video like always. One archetype that definitely failed is elementsaber.

[@dadriangreen6179]

Metaphys is actually an archetype that I didn't know existed lol Thanks for the knowledge, vtuber :)

[@freyathedragon899]

Metaphys? Failed? Say that to my Necroface

[@dasphantom8874]

Ah, my favorite archetype in Duel Links before pendulum and links power creept it

[@silentmonarch8201]

I play the deck to this day still in tcg and master duel. It's my go to deck for fun/casual play. I also use it in lower ranks till i reach plat in MD. Love the deck.

[@zkaryiaman9953]

I hope next time we've Ursarctic because it realy fit in this series. 😂

[@itsfort2098]

Did not expect for Master Duel to come up. I thought for sure it was gonna be Duel Links since it was a solid deck for a moment. And it did get extremely fucked over by the original DDD skill that skipped all of your standby phases which made Metaphys cards banished completely dead

[@chiconico9738]

Nemesis archtype is just the upgraded version of metaphys cards

[@Priestelar]

Failed deck: Arcana force (also plz mention the duel links exclusive continuous cards that are supposed to cheat out the light ruler)

[@dometalican1990]

I second this. I used to be fascinated by that archetype.

[@Priestelar]

@@dometalican1990 its my fav one but its so bad sadly… they finally got the fiend printed in the OCG but it needs alot more support

[@42VictorPessoa]

This is a nice video. Would love to see a similar one about Dream Mirror.

[@dsenvy]

i dont want to say it, but as of now i think Darklord is consider a failed cards/ Mechanic

[@SnowyGrass]

it would be nice if they got more support for active plays like some more low level monsters that can search or special summon by banish themselves and/or other cards. at least 1 archetype negate and/or protection card(s).

[@Sealbinder]

One place where metaphys was quite good is Master Duel N/R format. It is a really fun deck. Not top tier but was a strong rogue deck for a time.

[@TaLeng2023]

Love them to bits in DL, I just wish they got support or at least a skill. Free pend zones, a way to use Armed Dragon as scale, and a way to change the levels to 3 to summon Horus would be nice.

[@DigiTism]

You didn’t talk about how the cards are retrains of older cards, i.e. Metaphys Ragnarok is Divine Dragon Ragnarok.

[@julianfirdauz5839]

Wish they give more support to metaphys

[@chrism4291]

Always thought evil eye archetype was a big failure. Either that or I played it really badly

[@SSNNPBCC]

I remember when metaphys cane out in duel links the entire playerbase was having WAY TOO MUCH fun

[@xenonim]

Your can used in Kashtira deck as gimmicks deck. Kashtira deck also used banish mechanic to activate effect, however Metaphy only have 1 level 7 effect monster, while other engine such armed dragon have bunch lot of level 7 monster, even compare to dino engine is also bunch lot level 7 monster, so main while used other engine more reliable or just Kashtira monster itself without relying other engine. But at least R & D if your want to.

[@scheevyjenkinz8444]

This one is one of my favorites. It just needs a few more gimmicks and it would be pretty good

[@swisschese1323]

Malefic: "who are you?" Metaphys: "I'm you but worse"

[@Zetact_]

Konami clearly designs some cards with the intent of being chase cards/archetypes and some not. Metaphys isn't really "failed" since it was never meant to be anything other than pack filler.

[@SirGrimly]

Just got into the video and, for the first time since I subbed to this channel, I have heard DuelLogs state incorrect information about a card as Metaphys Armed Dragon (which they show in the video as he states the wrong stats) has 2800 attack and 1000 defense.

[@Gebirges]

The thing that makes the bad are that they aren't Dragons. If Metaphys Armed Dragon were a Dragon it'd be so much better as a target for Dragon Shrine which I run in my Armed Dragon Deck atm. If Konami wants to make these card relevant again, they should change them all into Illusion Monsters instead. I'd say they fit that type better than Wyrm ...

[@Xedhadeaus]

I used it a while back to get to high level synchros. Honestly, I should try to use it with swordsoul or something. But, who knows.

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

So they tried to revive old school cards into an archetype Maybe they should revisit this

[@humbertoblanco8656]

A top list with the must important meta changing packs would be cool.

[@GilbertVonArphostein]

4:51 gotta be my favourite part.

[@animalshavingabeer3582]

This archetype just needs to be completed and it would be perfectly serviceable, because once it gets set up, its incredibly interactive and resilient. I don't know why they released a fantastic scale 1 pendulum like decoy without a scale 8 counterpart. It would give decoy more flexibility, let you circumvent the risk of using your normal summon on ragnarok, and beyond that, get enough bodies on the field during your first turn to take advantage of the vast array of synchros that metaphys has access to so you can survive and build crazy boards. Not saying it would be rogue, but this deck is perfectly capable of beating decks like Labrynth, Runick, and Branded with the right execution, even in its current sorry state.

[@duckluiz]

My ex showed me this deck and I just loved it. The play style is cool and at the time it was a relatively unknown archetype, so it caught most people off-guard

[@tonitaipalus8722]

10:21 i have never seen anyone play metaphys with swordsoul, actually i think i have seen metaphys twice in master duel in the past two years

[@OneOfTheLoveless]

The amount of cards that reference DM-GX-era card is absurd.

[@babagryva5954]

I would love metaphys support, these cards are so cool!

[@maximilianhenzerling7027]

You already said sth similar, but i want to point out more, that Its not an argument for an archetype, if we need other maybe broken stuff to make it work. Sword Soul is/was part of the Meta for years and we will always have anti-meta decks with Macro, so Metaphys is a fun option, which cant survive on its own right now, and its far away of being viable and you coud also make the point, that decks like Swordsoul get weaker by combining them with Metaphys, cause there are other better options like more floodgates or handtraps. I would say Metaphys either need ways of surviving til the standby phase and then they need broken effects to make the wait worthwhile or activate their effects instanly (similar to floo).

[@xenghuong]

I feel like ojamas would make an interesting video. Especially how konami basically tossed them away and made kashtiras instead

[@xCorvus7x]

It kind of sucks that Protos and Eschatos aren't each called Archenemesis, given that they are the boss monsters of the archetype, the two nemeses supported by the Keystone, the Corridor, the Umbrella, and the Flag (nemeses being the plural or nemesis). I get that archetyping works like that but they _could_ have given them the clause in their card text to always be treated as Nemeses cards (at least outside of Japan). Unless the nemeses referred to in the names are not Protos and Eschatos but something else, which even those two only embody to an extent.

[@stevenashley27]

The next set after DUEA was New Challengers, but did it not have Metaphys support?

[@pinoarias8601]

Metaphys is my favorite deck, it's such a sleeper pick in rogue.

[@GRoss-kx1cp]

Somewhere Hardleg Joe is turning in his computer chair.

[@skotiaH2O]

Most fun deck i've ever played in Duel Links, though

[@dakotastein9499]

its alot better than most give it credit for,and the fact that it can synergize with these other decks prooves this..... id also like to point out soul absorb is brilliant in this deck...especially when you combine it with inferno tempast and necroface. the problem in thier relivence lies in two factors... first is the unbalanced state of the current game alot of decks are seen as second thoughts and "failed" archtypes because of what they are up against...keep in mind some of the competitve examples you used as adversaries to Metaphys that were better were some of the best decks in the entire metagame that were pretty much dominating almost everything. the other issue is how these cards are expanded apon....some archtypes will get so much attention they get entire packs,sometimes multiple packs dedicated mostly to them and thier support,where as other series and archtypes are spread thin and released slowly....and often times,an archtype will stop seeing support at all. if konami actually gave more attention to the archtypes that have potential (mataphyst being one of them) and actually continued to make support instead of just focusing on the popular cards (which are only popular because of thier place in the metagame BECAUSE they were given so much support,or innately borderline broken) then more of these lower tier decks would be able to see more play.

[@trashcrash8865]

Wyrm attribute

[@williamdrum9899]

Take a drink everytime he says "banish"

[@ericshun2552]

Sounds like if Destiny Heros stuck to the Standby phase gimmick and didn't have the Heo support cards

[@mattbaltimore7195]

My suggestions for the next video will be: - S-Force - Ursarctics - Simorgh - Nephthys - Dream Mirrors - Triamids