China: facial recognition and state control

[@asdf7219]

It's not that I have something to hide, I have nothing I want you to see.

[@陈扬志-w6i]

You also need to take photo in your own country when you aply Your personal ID. China airport is controlled by government and they can get the face information from Chinese ID system. So there is no difference .

[@LL-vg2kd]

Too bad, as long as you are on a public street, you exposed yourself in the public, everyone can see you. But you can just stay in your house all the time, the problem should be solved.

[@darktealglasses]

@@LL-vg2kd Yes, I think you guys should stay at home

[@bryanbgs9773]

@@LL-vg2kd there is a huge difference between getting seen by people in real life and getting filmed everytime with ai analysing your behavior

[@estrellafugaz301]

@@陈扬志-w6i In China the government use face information for special control. So there is a Ouïgour difference.

[@AssadAdam]

When china does it its bad. But when UK and US does it its for national security.

[@acemiyamoto61]

@nunchaku101 but the media doesn't portray it like that you fucking dickhead hippie.

[@JM-yy2zl]

For security. Yeah right .they killed too many people in Gulf countries.

[@zararatcliff5113]

comment of the day

[@Roar902]

There is a slight difference from living in a free country, to living in a constant communist surveillance state.

[@dindings]

@@Roar902 the 🔨 and the sickle says: we'll see you at Siberia

[@booishoois309]

This is exactly why I want to live off grid. Nothing good will come in the future of living in high density population centers.

[@rowenamcmahon8984]

Boois Hoois yes but where? Everywhere is owned by Government

[@WayneTwitch]

@@rowenamcmahon8984 Not everything but most things yes

[@teetcl9319]

Boois Hoois you are absolutely right.

[@ronnie2127]

That's exactly what the Unabomber thought.

[@ludmilaturkova1274]

you should NOT be scared of the comments. you should be scared of the facts

[@minhkhoitranle4276]

ok im scared of your profile picture

[@kazakhdoge1822]

Every government's wet dream.

[@changli4046]

indeed

[@minhkhoitranle4276]

sad

[@bazemk5111979]

so wet that they cant stop cumming lol

[@drdewott9154]

Every insane, extremist government that's for sure. Let's just hope the few sane governments left have better ideas. Scandinavia I'm fuckin counting on y'all.

[@michaelsun9063]

CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS... they does the same thing, the only difference is that China does it openly and the US does it secretely...

[@SHADOWNINE79]

"I always feel like somebody's watching me ain't got no privacy"

[@tilakgupta9293]

Well if isn't a camera it is Google and 300 other websites that you gave permission to. 1984 and Brave New World are parallels

[@bananaborealis9515]

1984 vibes is getting stronger everyday...

[@minhkhoitranle4276]

thx god im moving away from it

[@GGWP-gm5cq]

Funny enough, while most of the west are terrified, many Chinese actually like the system. If you want to have a nice and peaceful discussion, do not throw bold assumption like “they have to accept it or they get arrested” or “people here have to like it” unless you are an expert on the relating subjects, such as humans society or global politics. I do not accept any argument or rant from someone who comment on the system without personally experience it for at least a year, or have been educated in related area, or only comment based on the hostility against another ideology.

[@rh5340]

because Chinese are generally shortsighted, can't see the big picture, and don't have the ability to question the status quo. This is typical asian conformity mentality, which is called as 'harmonious society' by the Chinese. lol, btw, I'm Chinese, I know my people.

[@dakowill8349]

That’s probably because Westerners have a natural fear of “big government” and rightly so considering history. Tied with “big data” and you have a nightmare of Orwellian proportions arising! Not only that, but the Book of Revelation has predicted a final resurrection of the Roman Empire that will be governed by 10 leaders under 1 supreme leader who’ll probably use similar surveillance technology to enforce his “mark of the Beast” to control all types of commerce (Rev 13:16-18) and suppress all dissenting views.

[@GGWP-gm5cq]

I am Chinese too, I know my people and I am pretty sure elites among us are not short sighted, and lucky enough, the decision is made by the elites but not the common folks. 精英阶层和知识分子懂得比你我都要多，中国崛起根源在于一个可以不把目光放在赢得选举上的铁拳党派，而这个党派中起决定作用的智囊知道自己该干什么，所以我们才会有像深圳这样几乎凭空出现的城市。这样才叫做目光长远。 但这样的代价就是不能有任何阻力，否则计划就难以实现，同时部分省份比如说东北三省会非常不爽，所以说中国人和党做的一笔交易，完全服从换来持久发展的稳定社会。这怎么就成了目光短浅了呢，相对而言真正的目光短浅反倒是宁可一辈子跪在地上也不愿意放弃个人主义的人吧

[@winsonhan2187]

Runze Hu dumb comment! Only you are long sighted.

[@rh5340]

笑话，中国的精英群体里可不乏毒药，大量影响着老板姓日常生活的基层官员也不乏迂腐反智者。而中国真正在潜心研究社会问题和国计民生的学者们真的有话语权吗，敢于说真话的，如秦晖等，真的能影响政治进程吗？中国的政治体系产出的最终决策并不是靠什么理想状态的理性辩论，而是靠政治，靠血腥的权力。这个状态下在现有法律框架中为少数群体维权的律师会消失，被囚禁; 执政党可以经过一个傀儡议会通过任何他想通过的法律，而至于一部法律有利于谁有害于谁，这些利益相关者完全没有权力为自己辩护。而你口中所谓的“计划”， 仿佛有着天然的正确性，你不过是在说因为他们是所谓的精英阶层和知识分子，因为信息不对称，所以他们的决策肯定比平民大众的对。我当然不认可平民大众过度参与政治生活，中国受过本科教育的仅 5%，而且中国的大学教育长期没有培植起有效的人文社科教育，而且还有大量的意识形态课程，因此大部分人显然没有批判性思考的能力。而这个执政党最大的问题是对正当诉求的漠视和打压，是回避辩论，用政治的手段排除异见，是抱残守缺和毒药的相对主义。而中国人恰恰是那么的容易被统治，他们和这套系统是那么的契合，因为大部分人完全没有问为什么的习惯，不懂得通过教育去批判性地认识自己的处境，和批判性地认识周围的世界。相反，在他们的世界里教育是工具，是投资，是求得一份收入高的工作，是去学习如何去服务这个系统，而不是去问这个社会系统隐含的价值观是什么，和如何让这个社会系统更有利于人民大众而不是基于执政党既定的叙事框架。说白了，中国人天生喜欢现成的答案，天真的以为记住现成的答案就够了，而不懂如何用自己的能力和智识去求得一个有原创性的答案，这就是为什么我们的基础科学那么差，而人文社科更差。新文化运动一百年过去了，中国人毫无长进，而这个社会已经诞生不了鲁迅那样的人物了。

[@jx100]

在我家乡发生的几起杀人答案都是在三天之内抓到犯人，归功于农村的监控摄像头。in my hometown, the police caught the criminal in A killing case in only 3 days for the cameras in the countryside

[@jx100]

Abdul Rehman in the passed three years, there are 2 killing cases in which A few people died by the murderers as I know where I now work , but the police caught them very quickly with the help of the cameras , the murderers just cannot escape even if tried to hide themselves. and the facial recognition also helped catching the criminals in some singer's concert A few times, for me, I think it is helpful for the society

[@erniellerena]

@@jx100 One murder case and that has you sold on this idea?

[@kevinmeng5231]

We obviously recognizes the benefits it may bring to public security. But its whether or not the power granted by this technology will be abused that worries the international community.

[@jx100]

Ernie Llerena for me as A normal people in china, it just make the society safer, that is what I want.

[@jx100]

Kevin Meng aren't there any camera abroad outside china? if not, why should the international society worry?

[@ChiIun]

The mass surveillance system is already installed today: It's called smartphones

[@williamkunte5361]

@Wolf And you are a waste of knowledge.

[@williamkunte5361]

@Wolf Oh okay my bad. Apologies.

[@futuropasado]

Not the same. Nope. Smartphone doesnt know if you enter you job, a grocery store, do throw the trash near your home, etc etc. It only has a tracker of your position if you allow the phone. And the CCTV cameras of China are controlled by actual government people. Comparison is absurd.

[@glendjunuslodoli211]

@@futuropasado Actually it knows what you buy and what might you buy, it know where you work, and know your daily habits.

[@jesseroberts1041]

@@glendjunuslodoli211 Straight up know that for a fact too since I didn’t put in my new job location but yeah if you spend lots of time between two places it’ll figure out what it is and assume usually correctly so where you live and work lolol.

[@KarinaLopez-lz6ok]

Looks like the bible already knew someone would do this

[@timcam6665]

In the words of Sir Terry Pratchett, "The phrase, the innocent have nothing to fear, should put instant fear into the hearts of innocents everywhere".

[@ElectricityTaster]

If face recognition works in China, it will work everywhere else.

[@Wurmo]

"We're gonna use this to stop hate speech" BOOM 40%- 60% public support. That's all it will take. Its gonna be that easy.

[@bukanmatin5973]

LOL, asians look the same

[@irislaumol]

Most of western countries are applying the same methodology to control and surveillance their citizen via phone, iphone, smartphone and camera as well, specifically US, UK, Germany, French and Australia.

[@changli4046]

When I came back to China last year, this facial recognition thing really scared me out. It was only 2 years ago that I left China but now it feels a different kind of like a different country. There's camera everywhere. My face get scanned basically every 2~3 days. There's one time I was checking out at a supermarket, and I saw an option of facial recognition. I was thinking how the hell can a supermarket know my account? But for curiosity I clicked it and it worked. Turns out all the machines on the street knows everything about me. It's convenient indeed but sometimes I'm really concerned about it.

[@westie420uk]

So you didn’t even need to sign up to use it, it already knew your details? That is scary! Imagine the technology they have now.

[@戴佳-k1s]

@@westie420uk it’s still needed for u to sign up, otherwise you cannot pay. That’s why the some of those technophiles, like the older generation, still pay by cash as they have no smart phones.

[@wk1879s]

Then go back and use your cash or credit cards.

[@raymondosullivan1958]

The world needs a big reset. Too much surveillance and corruption now

[@KhanSaif-es7yu]

You still need to sign in I guess

[@sunnyd8585]

Every country should set up these cameras. They will help catch criminals. I got stolen from on Talbot street in Dublin and unfortunately there were no cameras around to prove my story. That incident made me wish that Ireland and other countries were surveillance states like China. To anyone who would feel infringed upon, you have nothing to worry about as long as you don’t commit a crime and free speech and disagreeing with the government should not be crimes.

[@steerpike50]

this is brilliant we need cameras every 500 yrds , people are fed up with crime , well done

[@middleages488]

This is totalitarianism and mark of the beast of the Revelation book.Big brother as well,since they track our emotions and behaviour.

[@obsidianstatue]

I seriously don't get why news agencies keep on distorting the facts when it comes to state surveillance. it's the same when reporting on the surveillance done by NSA, as with these cameras, they only generate big data, that is stored to be analysed by algorithms and are usually stored for no more than 30 days, neither China nor US government is interested in your email to your grandma or where do you go for your nightly strolls. the whole point of having AI cameras is to turn digital footage from cameras into readable data, so you don't need people to view and analyse the footage, you only need AI algorithms to do so. and 99.99% of the data would be viewed by the Algorithm and stored then for a period of time, without even been seen by anyone in the government.

[@Archeaon]

China is famous for arresting political opposition and dissidents, the possible danger in a totalitarian state is obvious and if you don't understand it you are pretty dumb, there are millions of chinese in reeducation camps just to say one, is also famous for a racism against northern population which have sligtly different genetic traits, they usually ends up disappearing www.voanews.com/a/un-says-number-of-people-in-china-re-education-camps-could-top-one-million/4553722.html

[@obsidianstatue]

Archeaon again your only source of information being the western news agencies don't know the nuances in the stories you are alluding to. re-education or de-extremification of China's Sunni muslim radicals is a much needed and much supported policy in China. even the often anti-China channels on youtube, you can see tons of supports from their subscribers on the muslim extremist problem.

[@obsidianstatue]

also what "northern population" are you talking about? you clearly don't understand China nor its geography.

[@Steven-xf8mz]

he clearly understands China very well. In simple words, Chinese citizens are mostly very smart which is why they're mostly very successful in the US. Chinese govt has to re-educate many who can think for themselves, US doesn't have such thing cuz most citizens are either trolling left and right and got no understanding outside of the US, so no need for re-educating the dummies. LMAO!!!

[@acemiyamoto61]

Archeaon every country does that ,you must be dumb to think that western countries doesn't involved in such things ..hypocrites

[@SnazzBot]

What if it works great and their crime goes down to record lows, will the UK what to do the same?

[@universalgenius4661]

Unfortunately, police there basically don't do a thing. No. I don't think the crime would go down. They probably would find excuses and cover the crimes, tons of crimes weren't even reported. It's only for controlling. Not for reducing crimes. You can't ignore the giant corruption there. Where corruption goes, where good for nothing police follows. But the controlling might actually work.

[@vksepe]

I mean all these people who like an authoritarian police state should move to China. I rather like the UK as it is, I can call Theresa May shit and not get arrested.

[@ThePLAsterz]

@@vksepe would you seriously trade that for being able to walk alone at night without fearing for your life?

[@vksepe]

@@ThePLAsterz Yes because where I live in the UK ive been out at the dead of night and not been murdered. Yall just live in shit places.

[@ThePLAsterz]

@@vksepe well I dont feel the need to vent at political leaders which has no effect even if you were in a developed country. I guess we are even

[@李建秋的世界]

我看的都想笑，我不在意下面留言的美国人，英国人，德国人怎么看，他们爱怎么看怎么看。 那个路口上的摄像头反复在画面出现，是干什么的？大家没开过车？那不是闯红灯的时候的记录摄像头吗？自己出去看看。 然后美国，英国，德国，人家的路口是绝对没有这些摄像头的，全靠警察来盯是不是有人闯红灯， 是这样吗？ 还有关于穆斯林问题，过去是没有这些问题的，后来是75事件，大批的汉族人被杀害，所以才铁腕治疆，这不是大家的常识吗？ 中国也没有派兵跑到中东乱炸一通，美国人自己被恐袭那是活该，谁让你跑到中东乱炸一通的？人家又没请你去。 汉族人招谁惹谁了？少数民族加分，少数民族各种优待，新疆西藏年年中央给大批援助，凭什么砍杀汉族人？汉族人低贱一些吗？

[@haoyangwang1026]

双标，他们意识形态还是把我们看作社会主义跟他们对立阵营的，什么不好的事到他们媒体就无限放大报告，好的事情只字不提

[@mike11022]

同意。这类视频我很喜欢看，但是留言从来不写英文，也不和他们争辩。

[@chrisg1499]

讲的还真有道理

[@zhaofengzheng2923]

Jianqiu Li 我发现大部分西方人没有任何认知能力，辩证能力。

[@Roar902]

我们爱中国，但我们不喜欢独裁统治。这对业务不利。

[@desperadoshao9733]

the best freedom you get is, walk freely in midnight and you are safe, if someone robbed you or he didn't follow the traffic rules or he takes a seat on a train that does not belong to him, he will be caught in a week and be in the blacklist. If some company make poisonous food or harmful products. if they caused death, sorry, in China they will be sentenced to death. As Chinese, we understand how important death sentence is.that is what Chinese think freedom is.

[@painexotic3757]

I can freely walk where I live and not deal with criminals and there is no mass surveillance here. Just lol at you justifying your suppression and being watched all the time by the gov. No thanks.

[@painexotic3757]

@Cet free trade.thats why

[@oscarxu8533]

Nice propaganda! I'm a Chinese and I don't even know the camera on the street is powerful enough to recognize people. These cameras have really low image qualities and just record shit and nobody is watching you. Police might use those streets recordings to find suspected criminals if some serious crimes happened. What's more, if this video is not BS, then all criminals should've been arrested since governments know what you did and where are you. I might have been arrested for jaywalking, same as most of Chinese who did jaywalking. Come on, The Economists, please do some real research and stop using your imagination to try to tell the "truth".

[@cometmoon4485]

It's "I'm Chinese", or "I'm a Chinese person", not "I'm a Chinese". The word "Chinese" is an adjective, not a concrete noun.

[@lindadoreen734]

thank god, I finally see a normal comments. I have to say that the imagination of those editor is perfect. No wonder America landed on the moon in the last century.

[@trollpolice]

its not the cameras on the street that will do most of the leg work, it will be the camera on your phone.

[@lindadoreen734]

so it's a global issue, if it is true, all the governments can do super surveillance if they intend to. hence, the question should be "who give them admission to do the control?" the phone supplier? or Company that produces surveillance cameras？ most important, what's their purpose to collect the data? they use those data for what ? if it is useful to locate the criminals, should it be blamed ? because I believe the government have no interest of the flirting moments between you and your girlfriend. In summary, the technology have no right to harm people, what really matters is people who use it.

[@zzzstl6371]

The glasses that the police wearing in this video is laughable. I don't know how did the reporter get it, there are just 2 facts: this technology is farther beyond the level human has got now and you can't see any of this in China now.

[@carolel4537]

It is such a sad world we are building. I feel sadden for the Chinese people, the majority of whom are poor and enslaved. Greed around the world makes for evil endeavors under the guise of progress

[@MrDongdongwang]

The safest country in the world, nice!

[@537monster]

Guiyang Shang at the sacrifice of all of you’re freedom.

[@erniellerena]

Said the faceless person.

[@plokijuh5830]

Not much safer than 90% of Europe and North America, but far less democratic and with far more human rights violations.

[@crystalball020]

@@537monster Sure facebook and CIA cared about your freedom lmao

[@537monster]

+Crystal Ball well, the CIA does because they protect my right to choose my leaders. Instead of them being chosen for me like China. Facebook, well they are design to turn a profit, and no one really expects them to “protect freedom” I expect them to connect me with friends.

[@psychos1s.]

The one who felt scared of this probably the criminals.. you can't do the crime, surveillance camera is everywhere

[@veejsaurty3765]

Cashless system implementation! C19 was the tool used to implement this system.

[@qr-ec8vd]

True Status of China Surveillance: most companies are still researching the tech, existing tech are not nearly good/fast enough for it to be rendered useful. Most of the cameras in the video are for enforcing traffic law regulations(you know, make sure you are not running a red light and kill someone). The Economist's portrayal: China's tech is so far ahead of the everybody else, it can do this complex system like nobody could. Funny how when talking about innovation, China cannot do shit, but now China can do all sort of amazing things as long as it fits your narrative.

[@peilinma5825]

此言得之

[@psychedsage4990]

Western fear mongering media huhh. Haizz...Bu Guo hai yo hen duo hai Shi Xing ta men

[@ПопулярновБългария]

world is freaking out , but this is the baby ai , soon it will grow into a beast !

[@konstantinakatsiaba2004]

That technology is the mark of the beast

[@TheCleaver1992]

What is the ai?

[@jqkv]

oh man it's terrifying

[@strahinjaborozan2114]

this is going to be everywhere soon

[@jimschuman9926]

Rockwell song:” I always feel like someone’s watching me.. and I have no privacy.” They knew something was coming.

[@johnnylego807]

Literally black mirror in real life! Or 1984 by George orwell

[@georgeflori7117]

That is why China is the safest country in the world - they have a responsible government.

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

lol, China is not even close to the safest country on Earth.. In fact, it's ranked #112 on the Global Peace Index. Responsible government? what are you smoking? China is an authoritarian police state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#Global_Peace_Index_rankings_(2008-2018)

[@someboi4903]

I’d actually be comfortable living like this if China wouldn’t violate so many human rights.

[@CHRF-55457]

My Mother and Dad always said that back when they went to China before the Government had put up cameras everywhere, there was a lot of human trafficking. My mom often told me and my siblings the story of how her friend who went to China lost her son at around 6 or 7 years old during that time. A stranger came in, took the boy to a bathroom and changed his clothes, and walked out with him. She said that her friend kept searching continuously for around 8 years. By the time her friend finally found her lost son, *_she left him there in China._* Because her son got his hands or his legs amputated, a common practice to turn children into beggars so they could earn money. Nowadays, my mom and dad say it's a lot safer in China now, you could leave your door unlocked and no one would steal anything.

[@jameskamotho7513]

Surveillance is the price you pay for being 1.4bn, I guess...

[@johnnylego807]

Both lies. Why would the government stop its income from human trafficking? They won’t.

[@jessicahorowitz345]

Chinese people look so much alike, no wonder they did breakthrough in face recognition, the technology must be incredibly accurate

[@epsospremium6088]

This will also come to corporations and shops. *Face recognition is happening* on the corporate level to prevent shoplifting. Stores and corporations may share their shoplifter data across borders.

[@WeirdZoRs]

People shouldn't fear their government, government should fear it's people.

[@沈砺寒]

The group of demonstrators shouting slogans at the beginning of the video，they support Xinjiang's independent，haven't any relation to the face recognition system.It's very stupid to put this into the video. And I have to say，in this world，no government will support the ideas of splitting the country，China is also no exception.Our Chinese people won't agree with them either.

[@sourabhs14]

Dont listen to these western media idiots. They will imppse pc culture on every other country without looking into their own backyard.

[@RobbieBackpacking]

Big brother 😲

[@Delgen1951]

Worse The antichrist, control schemes.

[@Eqcrw]

It’s actually spookily accurate...

[@zoecarlibur]

"I understand HOW: I do not understand WHY"

[@RobbieBackpacking]

@@zoecarlibur to better control the general public and silence any groups thinking about standing up to the government.

[@toddmax3678]

Big brother called Prism

[@igortanaskovic2749]

Sounds like a prison

[@minhkhoitranle4276]

people in this comment section are just gonna disagree with you

[@sheshez4christr301]

exactly

[@zxynj]

In Beijing AI face recognition is used to prevent people from stealing toilet paper. I’m dead laughing.😂😂😂

[@hardikrawat5436]

Let's take a moment pray for this Chinese man's life.

[@casperguo7177]

Western governments invest in facial recognition The Economist: the government is promoting technological growth and innovative research, let’s go!!!!!!! Chinese government invests in facial recognition The Economist: offending privacy, state-control, totalitarianism......” Smh

[@ilkpjz5474]

Wow, I just finished Psycho-Pass and came across this video

[@MsTMarie83]

Wow. Love and prayers to everyone overseas dealing with this horrible war on controlling human beings by greedy politicians... My heart aches.. I feel so helpless seeing how much this has increased since 2 years ago... these systems have spread to so many countries.. its only a matter of time. Lord forgive us all.

[@Riko_2410]

Did you hear what she just said this is also planned for every country in using covid and the cost of living crisis and this fake war to do it if you've noticed now they are now talking about AI which is artificial intelligence

[@walkingbear56]

its here already and has been for at least 10 years.

[@jxfu9562]

I love the relaxing BGM, ordinary Chinese citizen's interview, random pics, happy voice-over and a summary speaks out all ppl's opnion, these the western media integrated in every topic abt China. good job bro. respect from China. Go make more.. lol

[@nmbileg]

At the moment, this mass surveillance system is convenient for Chinese people and I know that 90% of Chinese people wouldn't criticize the system. However, we don't know what will happen in the future, it may lead to a harmonious or suppressed society. IMO, this system cannot go beyond the current state.

[@dearbulls]

Whenever there's an abuse of power, these surveillance cameras will "just happened to" get broken. And it has happened so many times

[@tea1255]

In Canada, we can’t find criminals by monitors because we don’t even have them in many places. So, we quit those investigation every time.

[@ShX330]

What about Snowden? What about Merkel's private phone?

[@gallaxian]

Whataboutism in its purest form.

[@m0rthaus]

If they didn't regurgitate these whataboutisms from their state-run media, they may have to actually consider that their government and president-for-life are out of control power monsters

[@asspartacus]

This is creepy and human Right violating. Just imagine You are staying naked spiritually and physically anywhere you go through those CCTVs.

[@jiandani6450]

It's true that life became easier and "safer" under this vast surveillance grid... But at what cost???

[@pedrojello8983]

everything lol

[@hyoroemonmeto6874]

Any inconveniences is small when identifying criminal is what we get in return.

[@sourabhs14]

Ask wife or a children of a person who died in terrorist attack

[@condew6103]

I fear a new dark age that humanity can never escape from because anything that could threaten the regime gets destroyed before it can bear any fruit.

[@Wurmo]

No it isnt.

[@johndelacruz8505]

Have they asked any Chinese person about this system? If they did they would realize that the average Chinese citizen welcome this . You will see crime rates go down and greater social stability. There’s been countless studies done where it also shown that East Asians value mostly social order and stability well above freedom of expression.

[@Vermilion2049]

Anti-China propaganda, I have lived in China for decades. The Urghurs have more rights than other ethnicity. They don’t feel the police in Shanghai. And most of the pick pockets in the city are Urghurs. They don’t abide to laws obly better policing can help us lawful citizens.

[@stanvincent4302]

Pickpockets or not, they are still human beings. Nobody should be subjected to such immoral policing.

[@whoboo6780]

@@stanvincent4302 They're still human beings. That's why as a Westerner maybe you should start accepting them into your countries. America should open its doors to millions of Uygurs and they will be very happy for sure!

[@stanvincent4302]

@@whoboo6780 Yes, the Western countries can grant asylum to the Uyguhurs; considering their plight. But I believe it's better for them to seek asylum in countries like Kazakhstan or India as travel costs are significantly less.

[@whoboo6780]

@@stanvincent4302 Those are also dictatorships. Besides, anti Islamic violence is on the rise in India. I still think America and the West is a perfect new home for many Uygurs. Better to have Uygurs than Arabs, Iraqis and Somalis. Uygurs would be "genuine" refugees.

[@krishnachaitanyavamsi2870]

@@whoboo6780 You think Anti islamic violence is on rise in india it seems you dont think. India is democratic country some times news agencies cross the limit in reporting by heavily inflating normal news these are generally encouraged by opposition leaders

[@seangify]

YOU CAN NEVER RUN. YOU ARE ALWAYS UNDER THEIR RADAR

[@Mrboogersrgreen]

“No one must be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honor and reputation.”- Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

[@joekerr8037]

It is not arbitrary, kid !

[@iondu655]

Well, they are not the only one who use facial recognition system. I mean US, France, and other countries in Europe used it for a long time although not that excessive.

[@aaronhua1271]

"Mr Snowden, what do you think of this technology"

[@yang5616]

haha

[@risanno3041]

Snowden will say, it is old school.

[@MetalDEmpire]

Minority Report and Psyco-Pass in a nutshell. You gain safety and security at the cost of your own liberties and freedoms. Are you really protected when the guns that are used to protect you are also aimed at you?

[@TheOverThinker92]

The Panopticon- the idea that we are constantly being watched by an authority. This is like the movie called Eagle Eye

[@hallowelt6412]

Foucalt?

[@elainec5333]

This technology mixed with deepfakes can seriously ruin lives.

[@Franklin2027a]

真不知道这些记者又多少隐私要隐藏， 一个普通人，每天上下班，买点吃的，找点乐子，政府没事闲的看我一个小喽啰无聊的生活。 大家更安全，减少犯罪，挺好。 我没感觉政府侵犯到我的隐私，如果仅仅是多放些摄像头， 利大于弊。

[@williamying5051]

I am Chinese, democracy is not in the DNA of Chinese people. As demonstrated by this Otto's ignorant comment. Maybe Chinese people do not deserve freedom, they deserve state control, brain washing and state sanctioned thinking. This guy's response is typical Communist thinking, "you oppose to have your pictures taken so you must have something to hide". These low mentality Chinese really believe this line of Communist thought makes sense. It is frightening.

[@fleetingmoment]

在中国你不是需要用个虚拟私人网络看KZbin吗？怎么还能说你不感觉政府侵犯到你的隐私？

[@rh5340]

中国最大的问题是党就是国法，老百姓没法说理，打碎了牙往肚子里咽。

[@PaolaGhione]

你确定?

[@张轩豪-k6j]

这个倒不是因为隐私所以用VPN，是没有VPN上不了KZbin啊。。。

[@ziaaachen8178]

I really appreciate that The Economist show the world how China is developing in technology, while at the same time I am ashamed that you targeted the development on the wrong point, China uses face recognition to pay which is very convenient, in china, people don't even need to bring cash to shop, with just smartphone you can literally doing everyone, isn't that convenient? In the video, It says to "use face recognition to prevent people from stealing toilet paper" which is totally WRONG， the face recognition is used for those who didn't bring paper to get for free. There is no doubt there will be risks the technology will be used not properly by "some" people, isn't that a process for developing? in the case of Xinjiang, china uses tighter security cause there is "terrorist cases" happened in there, it's not surveillance on the minority but for the safety for the majority. so I am sure China will find ways to tackle the demerits and improve for better lives instead for it "authority power". I hope The Economist can keep critical and precise since lots of people don't really think

[@wuffendok]

I welcome the cameras and face recognition. Even I flt uncomfortable (which I really don't), I am glad to think my little sacrifice can save innocent lives and provide safety to the society.

[@vincentmalpica]

Ok CCP bot

[@rorycollins2851]

How accurate must this face recognition be!? Chinese people all look the same to me

[@davida6146]

This is extremely scary... no one should wield this kind of power

[@Riko_2410]

I'm afraid it gets a lot worse than this because this is also plans for the rest of the world, and the endgame is to have a one world government that inslaves all of humanity No person should have that kind of power with a one world government

[@Zhujac]

Why you putting the security cameras in your home?

[@firefly4784]

Why don't you emphasize on how public safety has been improved? Why don't you interview the majority of people who love and embrace this? Disgusting biased story again!

[@nmbileg]

I think it's good for everyone in China at the moment. But we don't know what this can lead in the future.

[@jasinbiggs7189]

Lol and why they have to use spooky music in background. They are anti-china so i aint surprised. They trying to fool everyone. They even mentioned oppressed muslims.

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

lol, China is not even close to the safest country on Earth.. In fact, it's ranked #112 on the Global Peace Index. China is an authoritarian police state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#Global_Peace_Index_rankings_(2008-2018)

[@Wurmo]

Sounds like its just a ruse to prevent any and all resistance to the Chinese elites.

[@paul_fredrick]

I am amazed at the ability of computers to recognize faces. Especially in China. They all look the same to me.

[@tristand1897]

LOL. London has the denest camreas in the world. This is the security of a democratic country.

[@evajoe6032]

It is pathetic that the lady from the company was kind of complacent in front of the camera about their technology. She would never expect of being exploited by her english friend.

[@xevo5688]

Uk did the same in London, Economist, are you trying to say this one is more advanced? we should upgrade our security system?

[@toryzzp]

Japanese capital owns the The Economist , then you know why it's so anti-chinese

[@devonrusinek5807]

@@toryzzp Source?

[@m0rthaus]

You won't get a source because it's bullcrap. Economist Group owns The Economist and they're majority owned by the Agnelli family (Italian), with smaller ownership held by Rothschilds, Cadburys, Shroders etc.

[@jameskamotho7513]

Surveillance is the price you pay for being 8bn humans, I guess...

[@hyperbolicitylevi-civita8995]

Absolutely preposterous..... Economist needs to do more work to remove their political bias and BS

[@leticiabravo1034]

they should do this USA and the USA border how many crimes in they never catch them and murder they take forever for found the guilty how many kidnapping and the parents have to wait 48 hours, many people going to the privacity , privacity finish when ever one has cellphone and take video and photos anywhere

[@damani662]

Why they don't show Singapore 24/7 under gov. CCTV and many of it at people house...oh yeah Singapore is US and Israel allies...

[@risanno3041]

Well said lol

[@m0rthaus]

Probably because Singaporeans aren't using CCTV to arrest ethnic minorities for moving 300m away from their home, or imprisoning millions of ethnic minorities, torturing and murdering them. If you think this is a political hitpiece then you're not very good at processing information.

[@damienspectre4231]

whatever you do - DONT do anything to stop the flow of Kung Pao Chicken! I love it!!

[@ikdaboss380]

Goosebumps all over my body now!!!!

[@neiltropolis]

Those poor people. Of course the Chinese government will and is currently abusing this power. They are besties with North Korea. I wonder if this is what Carl Marx had in mind.

[@peckerdecker]

*who* controls what's been viewed by these surveillance equipment? *WHERE* Is the information of your face going to? Cctv- This is Horrible.

[@ohhhy9816]

The United States has always selectively ignored their "prism" plan.

[@ArunDevJamwal]

It's just Yuval's predictions coming to life

[@haagendazs_april2663]

This should exist in Philippines 🇵🇭

[@kevinmeng5231]

Lol, most of the cameras shown are for catching people who are speeding, but the media insists that its facial recognition. Lmao

[@1122slickliverpool]

The problem is not the technology, but the lack of checks and balances in the CCP.

[@defendingtroy8268]

has the government ever asked the approval of the citizens to install the cams?

[@537monster]

July Wang it’s China, the government doesn’t ask permission to do anything to its people.

[@PeterLiuIsBeast]

Google never asked US citizens either. No one asks. They just do it regardless.

[@537monster]

PeterLiuIsBeast and when they don’t, they pay for it by losing power. Like the republicans in 2008 and the dems in 2016

[@537monster]

PeterLiuIsBeast and actually google does ask in their terms of service

[@htin08]

The shopping centres never asked approval from shoppers for security cameras as well.

[@rozembergbarbosa8661]

to have security in big cities nowadays we need to invest in technology and put cameras everywhere

[@seanpan5231]

The system will be ready for export.

[@wendypowell1984]

I’m upset about it because they said National Security and we all aren’t terrorist.

[@travismailsa1]

This would definitely impact me and my dealer :(

[@andead1731]

The sheer quantity of people who see this as a leap in the future is disturbing. The Chinese people have no freedom and judging by the reactions in the comments we will soon follow...

[@kongwee1978]

China insisted peace and security over freedom that you people insist not to understand.

[@andead1731]

@@kongwee1978 How can you value the security over people with ur freedom. Without freedom China will be no less than an open dictatorship.

[@kongwee1978]

I'm living in developed dictatorship country, I can understand China concerns. My country and China has the same security concerns. We can go out 2,3 am w/o worry much about our safety. I can't say for the developed west in some areas. Freedom is useless if you can get Trump in power not by his capability in leadership. There is a lot of bomb threats in US now. :)

[@andead1731]

@@kongwee1978 Number 1 you completely deviated from what we were talking about. We were talking on how in the future this surveillance would control all of society. Secondly trump was elected because the general public supported his beliefs...

[@kongwee1978]

Since it is the future, you can't get away from it. It is other stage of human evolution. Our current ideology world is coming to the end. :)

[@zhenli9436]

You might be afraid of the system if you want to do something illegal, otherwise you should feel safe and being protected.

[@humbertopaimdemacedo]

Certainly will not be with cameras in those heights nor with the face in the position as in 00:00 and 00:02 that will be detected. There are minimum requirements for facial recognition and failure to comply with them means to counter laws of physics and math, obviously with disastrous results.

[@ash_cyan]

It sounds like 1984 by Orwell and xi is the big boss

[@YichiLiu3]

You hating because you’re an Indian butthurt. Typical.

[@jeff8253]

I am fine with public monitoring and stuff, but ironically China calls their surveillance system "*Skynet*" XD

[@laditotto8492]

Well done China! National security always come first.

[@hjack7263]

How much do you think about the cost of face recognition?can you still make more rumors?

[@jwhanhust]

Biased lies and lies. You only make me become more and more supportive for CCP, good job!

[@thejoyofrolling]

I have been studying the Truth and you can clearly see the lack of it on peoples faces, it's pretty depressing seeing people forget their creator and have full faith in man