Israel is lying about the number of its casualties in Gaza, with Jon Elmer

Israel is attempting to craft an image of victory - using the brutal spectacle of mass arrests of civilians - as its military hides casualty figures from the ground war in Gaza, says Jon Elmer.
"It does seem that Israel came out of the fighting pause and got feedback from their focus groups on what has to be done to build an image of victory that allows you to withdraw from this war with some semblance of at least operational legitimacy - because we know they’ve lost moral legitimacy, so they want to have a symbol of victory," Jon said.
"For the Israelis, because they don’t have the operational or moral legitimacy to fall back on, their principal war-fighting strategy is to stay alive. And part of the brutality of the massacres in the Gaza Strip is cowardice - it’s cowardice of their soldiers who don’t want to go and risk themselves."
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[@WTF31000]

Why is the media always referring to Iran sponsored Hamas and never referring to America sponsored Israel? #AmericaSponsoredIsrael

[@hanifmartin7505]

You know who controls the media 😏

[@bahaar2825]

Exactly

[@Suzi195]

Or is it the other way around?????

[@mallachsteve]

Because Iran is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism. Moral equivalence doesn't work.

[@mallachsteve]

@@hanifmartin7505 Can you cite figures and facts? No. It's the usual denial of facts.

[@hecimbecir8482]

Is there anything that Israel is not lying about?

[@supersurfer1]

That’s what they excel at

[@fcb9950]

They even lie about the lies

[@stevejones3530]

No

[@ianh1504]

They havent lied about their intent to purge gaza of palestinians and settle their homes

[@18890426]

they even lie that they lie

[@AmrHussein1805]

The resistance is truly heroic, specially when one considers that they have been under occupation and then under siege for decades. They have no Air Force, air defense systems, no satellites and no infinite supply of weapons from the US and they are still holding their ground and inflecting heavy casualties on Israel.

[@shadmansudipto7287]

They do have a lot of missiles.

[@robintako5440]

@@shadmansudipto7287They don’t waste them on random civilians

[@racinmoeherdez4434]

... THEY HAVE NO WATER, THEY HAVE NO FOOD, THEY HAVE NO HOSPITALS, THEY HAVE NO HELP !

[@CD-ev2vy]

Now that's a story of courage bravery and resourcefulness we can tell generations to come

[@AmrHussein1805]

@@racinmoeherdez4434 and they are still fighting back the best they can

[@msbluejay3]

I watched a You Tube video from a former Israeli soldier. He ( Jewish ) said he was taught from a young age to see the Palestinians as terrorists, sub human and animals. ( there are you tube videos of school’s teaching the kids songs about hating and killing Palestinians). When he got to the army, it was easier to kill and torture Palestinians….having hated them all his life. The children are brainwashed to not see Palestinians as humans. Reminds me of North Korea. All of these atrocities done to Palestinians…for 75 years….just so Israel can be for Jewish people only. The Christians in Jerusalem are being attacked by the Israeli government, too. ( not killing them, but spitting on them, defacing the churches etc).

[@raqeebahamatallah3068]

The Christian quarter of Jerusalem has been cleansed of Christians for decades. Very few are left. Settlers have taken over their homes by force. Facts deliberately hidden from the American audience.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

No different to 911 and the war of terror Just think of all the planning and resources spent even before the event took place That was their golden moment of deception, will the world ever realise the lie

[@nwankwosampson-xk3jc]

What a lie😂

[@1100100il]

@@nwankwosampson-xk3jc Obviously he has never seen an UNRWA school book lol

[@gogotrapx9339]

​@@nwankwosampson-xk3jcyou have confessions of soldiers. I don't look at the News, I look at the videos the Israelís post ❤

[@kadourkadour393]

It is blatant to see that they are lying. They failed big time and are avenging themselves on helpless civilians.

[@bahaar2825]

Yup an eye for eye😥

[@mosaviola1178]

Exactly

[@kittytrail]

​@@mosaviola1178 they don't seem to be very good at maths then... 🙄

[@SunVirtuous-vs8rw]

They have not failed, they are totally victorious and the electronic intifada wants to try and take Israel’s total victory away! Anybody with some intelligence can see that the electronic intifada are a bunch of hopeless anti Israel liars!

[@l-uk3xm]

Where specifically did they fail?

[@John_O_Connor]

Palestine has the right to exist ❤

[@petermunro6317]

Israel does not- it’s illegal. Fact.

[@ShahNawazKhan-ud4sv]

Let them lie , they are only fooling themselves

[@SunVirtuous-vs8rw]

Israel doesn't lie! The electronic intifada lie non stop with false evidence, trying to take away Israel's great battle skills and current victory in the war.

[@kahutochishisumi9056]

Why isn't anyone discussing the fact that all IDF casualties names released are only officers and NCOs? Not a single private has been named.

[@AnnieBadger]

I don't think there's even a private in their army, even an 18 year old is already in a position of sergeant or lieutenant. Everybody's an officer 😅 😂

[@hjhsdujh]

Because they mobilised, meaning they rank is min sargent

[@TheRisenPeopleEire]

Actually??? What! Wait what? Lol

[@FaerieSidhe]

Same reason no militants are listed and all civilians are doctors and journalists?

[@kahutochishisumi9056]

@@AnnieBadger sign of Tiktok Army 😆😆😆😆😆

[@wolf-man-bear-pig-torque]

Overtime, we'll know what the close to accurate casualties figures are. The Israeli government will not be able to censor that information, with so many prying eyes on that data, due to the cultural/religious sensitivities on this topic. The Israelis, along with Americans, who are against Netanyahu and his coalition cabinet might even use this information against them, so those numbers will be known in one way or another. With all things considered, judging from all the news, social media reports and videos of the fighting released (from both sides), and daily analysis from many people looking at them, the IDF toll of both KIA and Wounded is extremely likely much higher than they claim. Way too many mistakes they made during the operations, especially with the lack of infantry escorts with their tanks, as well as the carpet bombing, producing so much rubble which is more advantageous to the Palestinian defenders than the IDF assault teams. Being a conscripted army with so many young officers, who have are obviously not trained in dealing with urban guerrilla combat (especially on how to clear a room)...on top of a corrupted government, the IDF was already full of inherent problems, prior to the ground invasion.

[@mallachsteve]

Where do you get your information from? Or is it just wishful thinking?

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

​@@mallachsteve from reality cupcake, wait your turn, we will find you soon enough

[@mdshahilshaikh6999]

KZbin suggested this channel to me today which is surprising. You are doing good job. Keep it up. ❤❤❤

[@likeitornot8027]

Weakness they dont want to show, because of fear

[@nemanjastankovic4439]

Becomes more and more obvious more they try to hide it. I mean did anyone ever hear that ANY modern army chased someone half naked and wounded after that person used white flag to surrender ???

[@HNUNN-ip4dt]

Everyone is ganging up on the Israelis . " cowardice " .I think that this guy is FOS.

[@02logan]

I'm new to this channel and so glad I came across this. I couldn't stop listening to all the points brought up. Great work guys, keep it up!

[@JenZee-oe2no]

Perfectly crafted comment! Just like the dot on your head. Target?

[@wg3951]

@@JenZee-oe2no Racist?

[@ramiznorthland7179]

@@JenZee-oe2noyou have one of those dots on your head and is being watched.

[@JenZee-oe2no]

​@@ramiznorthland7179 Oooga boooga!

[@ricktellon3755]

​@@JenZee-oe2nothe truth stings a bit, isn't it, twat?

[@refoliation]

Thanks for all your work keeping us informed, EI. This resource has been extremely valuable.

[@mourneslad6819]

This is similar to the huge cover up by Kyiv of Ukrainian army casualties to give the illusion to NATO audiences that it was doing great against Russia.Tel Aviv doing the same for propaganda and morale

[@archvaldor]

They are doing great against Russia. They took back much of the territory the Russians claimed. No one ever pretended that wasn't costly. They just state flat-out they don't publish casualty numbers. Any comparison between Israel and Ukraine is fatuous: the correct comparison is between Israel and Russia.

[@radish848]

Concrete truth PREVAILS 🕯️🕯️📯💪🥁🙏THE GREAT RUSSIAN FEDERATION ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN MUSLIM NATION IS VICTORIOUS!!!!🕯️📯💪💪💪💪💪🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯

[@radish848]

NAZIS FASCISTS TERRORISTS GENOCIDAL NATO, EU, UK, WEF IMPERIALISTS NEOCOLONIALISTS LUNATICS DEFEATED!

[@abdulmukid870]

Please don't compare the two countries Russia is protecting its terrotris from American led nato.,! other is lying conniving snake who have no respect for human lives.

[@paulgearing3018]

An exellent analogy. But when you have The US and the Hollywood crew batting for you, its very convincing, if you dont,do your homework

[@Martin..Blackpool]

This explains why other groups haven't played a greater part. When all you can do is punish an entire people to justify your grievance with a group within that population you have already lost. The curtain has been opened and the illusion is exposed.

[@iyeshanadim4382]

You are so right

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Never interrupt an enemy making a mistake Knew that israel would go mental and horrify the world PALESTINIANS should rule the world, who is stronger or greater?

[@geekygamerchannel2171]

They always lie

[@Mordraqq]

Israelis should watch and listen to this.

[@joedoggie9098]

they would say these people are Hamas and lying.

[@Mordraqq]

I know cause I$rael has the right to defend himself, even against defenseless ,unarmed ,shirtless hostages.@@joedoggie9098

[@RinaRendi-mj3ny]

Unfortunately the izrahell don't have ears

[@harrysihan554]

Seems like Israel just hit upon its Vietnam.

[@mardeeyaheltouhkhy1440]

Truth will always prevail.Thank you guys for being the eyes for truth.

[@yoyospacos]

What puzzles me more, was , why the families of those soldiers never said anything about thier daughters and sons who died and injured ? Thats quite puzzling

[@fariedvallie699]

I am wondering myself.

[@adamwatson6916]

Probably threatened and terrorized into silence look at the way the families of the hostages are treated. When they' were protesting for the Israeli government to come up with a plan to get them back and were protesting at Netanyahus house they were abused threatened spit on called traitors called terrorists and accused of helping and supporting Hamas .

[@itzhabibi_tv8777]

They can’t ! If they do Shin Beit (isreali secret service ) will be at their door 🚪…

[@apage1717]

Probably for their own safety sake. The whole family from grandparents all the way down could be at risk if telling.

[@zander-lb1jy]

They are scared

[@bajithasm969]

Yeah, you guys are doing a good job. This the first vedio i happen to tumble upon on KZbin and found to be very informative.

[@mourneslad6819]

The IDF soldiers don't want to sacrifice their lives in a territory they don't want to be in nor in trying to kill Hamas for Netanyahu's rage

[@fareenaazeez2922]

Free Palestine

[@pure7082]

The Palestinian are fighting an occupation which is barbaric… while the Israel has always played the victim… 2 different perspectives…. I just hope to God that after all this there is peace….. but now how things are going on in Palestine… I think Hamas will grow @ huge rate & hate the Israel for a lot of civilians life’s that they encountered …. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@terrellscaife2411]

This video confirms a lot of the stuff that’s Scott Ritter says it is interviews

[@johnbernacki6155]

Colonel mcgregor too

[@terrellscaife2411]

Yep they’re both great men that stand on truth

[@gogotrapx9339]

"Hamas didn't create the conflict, the conflict created Hamas" ~ex IDF soldier

[@frankjoseph4273]

How long do they realize this was a trap ? They knew exactly how the response would be and prepared.

[@tiktokasylum5186]

Everyone was telling them Gaza would be a IDF grave yard but that’s what happens when you are lead by arrogance on low intelligence

[@carbunclegrim3419]

@@tiktokasylum5186 I would judge an average intelligence IQ 90- 110 maybe. Certainly nothing more special.

[@brycechessum4684]

israelis are not smart never were never will be

[@tanak2232]

Over 200 tanks and military vehicles destroyed, a tank normally has 5 personnel, the othe military vehicle that doesn’t have the armour of a tank carries 10 personnel, do the maths, but from a very reliable news source the figures are around 1800 dead soldiers, around 4000 severely injured and can’t fight no more and over for 4000 injured

[@bintabah210]

Is not about Hamas is about the land I pray for peace ✌️ in this world 🌎 may god help us all Aminah yarahbi ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

[@Crunt2167]

Land and natural resources check it out. Free Palestine 😎👍🇵🇸

[@alinaqvi385]

In all these horrible events and deaths, we should not a fact get away from our attention, and it is that every life is valuable. When a Palestinian muslim or when an individual from the other side is killed, a mother loses a son/daughter.

[@RogerLewis-ey2tt]

It's true. The IDF soldiers, they're just kids. I wonder if they realize they're dying for that offshore gas deposit

[@Islandicus]

Meanwhile, politicians who are orchestrating all of this destruction and death go to bed each night and sleep soundly. It's a scandal.

[@shadowboxer3583]

@@RogerLewis-ey2tt True but if Palestinian -they are literally kids. IE under 16.

[@alisonalia]

Amazing work guys.

[@imarazahir1320]

What does Israel not lie about?

[@hodanmohamed6749]

They are evil

[@alfredgalindo8003]

In the west we are in a information bubble.. the internet is the most regulated source. In a world of information iys surprising how truly we keptnin the dark

[@chingshih5727]

WHO, owns AND CONTROL ALL media.

[@culturabuzios3000]

Yes!😢

[@josephlegere5290]

My wife, who speaks Arabic, has been telling me about the APC's and tanks being destroyed for a month and a half now. I haven't seen anything on the legacy news about it yet .

[@culturabuzios3000]

Last time i read( 1 month ago ) abaout 350 tanks destroyed . 4 tripulants for tanks ... You have more than 1200 casualitys

[@jerome4038]

Are there dogs & cats and other pets in Gaza?Where are the animal Activists on their fate in light of all the aerialbombardment? Why are they silent?

[@Bigtuff123]

They have been using mercenaries since the start of the Gaza invasion.. these numbers are also totally uncounted

[@TheFaro2011]

Absolutely!!

[@WINGTV9]

October 7 was so clearly allowed to happen by the Israeli government. Also, it participated to some degree or other.

[@loudaroundtown]

lol

[@ustaz_abu_jan]

Yeah there's a footage of their tanks and helicopters killing their own people

[@loudaroundtown]

FAKE NEWS

[@shadowboxer3583]

@@ustaz_abu_jan The woman who survived one of the Kibbutz firefights-on youtube. Harrowing story :(

[@auntijen3781]

I'm dying to hear someone explain why Israel was so concerned about International Law, Geneva, etc that it (admittedly) set up field hospitals to treat wounded ISIS fighters in S Syria during the Syrian war BUT today, that same "it's our duty to help the war wounded, irrespectively, Isis' or not bc humanitarian law doesn't discriminate" Nation of Israel led by that same Netanyahu whose position was ☝️ has, before the whole worlds' eves done nothing besides betray and everything to destroy all manner of basic humanitarian rights & principles in Gaza, for Gazan civilians. They do very much want to push everyone in the world to believe that "Hamas' is ISIS" however Israel treated actual Isis' fighters in Syria much more humanely.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

Israel has funded islamic terrorism since before 911 Lavon Affair, Oded Yinon plan, the plans for 911 go back as far as 1922, setting a date for Sept 17 2001 The date Noah's ark comes to rest in Genesis 8:4 They're complete psychos

[@MichaelSmith-qc7nk]

The Jewish state army is losing bad on every level of this war, hope those that are standing with them no matter what can actually see where all this is going, this is not going to end well as this continues, smh.

[@red-baitingswine8816]

Educational. Thank you!

[@sifisocyprianshezi3824]

As of Dec 10, 2023 · According to the Health Ministry's data, 10,548 soldiers have been admitted between October 7 and December 10 - (Haaretz)

[@MsKimLorraine]

They’re lying about their identity, so what lies won’t they tell. 😢

[@casteretpollux]

Why am I not seeing or hearing fighting in videos from Ghaza ?

[@Raydaruckuz]

This channel showed some in one of thier last videos, ("Palestinian delivers blow"...) Or are you talking about in the mainstream media?

[@ummyhoney3105]

Check out AL Jazeera English or Middle East Eye they always show videos of what's going on in Palestine,that's why their press are targeted everyday,and today they bombed a place where one of their journalists is there,I hope he is well.

[@kahutochishisumi9056]

Watch Hindustan Times they give both sides

[@fightback397]

Try indonesia media they post videos as well .

[@supersurfer1]

Al Arabiya, Al Jazeera Arabic, Aljazeera Mubashara all upload the fight videos . The IOF videos we see are a laugh because they are always firing at walls.

[@DavidGreenwood-nu6dd]

I love you guys!

[@TruthAlways_]

Thanks guys. Very informative

[@amkougljanin9497]

Brilliant analysis 👏

[@theoxari]

Very informative! Thank you!

[@thomasmusso1147]

My understanding is that when the Israeli Forces attempt to 'go in', they experience heavy losses. Videos showing Israeli Troops 'in combat' appear to be very one-sided .. lots of running around, pointing of rifles and shooting but not much of the enemy and such. That Israeli Defence Spokesman .. the Lt Colonel. I would take what he says with a pinch of salt even sitting next to him while he is commenting on a football match. The Truth will eventually surface .. much BS from all directions. Unfortunately, many will die unnecessarily before that happens. I do not think that Israel is going to win this one.

[@nilgunozturk-pehlivan7500]

Thanks again 👍🏻

[@clintbryant5060]

Nothing unusual about that, most of what they say is propaganda.

[@alexsalapan6329]

There are 350+ TANK got DESTROYED or BURNED. Every tank had 4 OPERATOR and could add 6 MORE TROOPS on the passanger seats. You can do the math from there.

[@farookmeeranm4336]

Giants in lyes

[@jlb8696]

all criminal lair

[@adamhotak2573]

The whole western world lost moral legitimacy in this war.😢😢

[@alvinplummer5723]

Every thief is a liar and every liar is a thief. make no bones about that.

[@Muz786.]

Truth always prevails

[@NaimaBawazir]

Lies Lies Lies....that is the basic foundation of their existence

[@RollerGuideX]

We should be in absolute shock of Israel DOESN"T LIE about a thing. That would be terrible

[@paulgearing3018]

Too True --Just like their American friends. Of course they DON"T lie

[@ased786]

I read an article a couple of months back that stated that IDF casualties/kia is more than 5000.

[@knowledgebeyondstars5650]

Thank you fornsharing the truth

[@deniselee8151]

THIS IS ENTIRELY A BATTLE FOR OIL

[@coffeeboyclips1973]

To me it's clear Israel want to destroy Gaza and make it inunhabitable so they can then steal it. Scumbags of the highest order.

[@TheFaro2011]

Not for Hamas

[@DKX365]

And territory by sick Israeli Nazis

[@sevimcruz3551]

Thank you ❤

[@72defender]

The fact they have censors in hospitals tells you all you need to know about their honesty!

[@dniprokids531]

IDF is trying to avoid backlash from the Israelites, i have a friend from Ashkelon who's uncle enlisted for the war, now its two weeks since they last contacted him. He's not included in the list of the dead and injured. Mr Hagari too doesn't know his whereabouts 😢

[@yussufabdi625]

He is in Jahanam 😂

[@dniprokids531]

@@yussufabdi625 oops

[@safianamani1375]

🤣🤣🤣​@@yussufabdi625

[@SebastianKrabs]

"Are there zero heroes in Ī$®@e|?" Yes, the correct answer is zero!...YT deleted this 1st time when i didn't censor THAT WORD😅 yes i have screenshots

[@ilyakuryakin4639]

Israel?

[@SebastianKrabs]

@@ilyakuryakin4639 Yes, I typed out a long reply and it was auto deleted as well. not sure what I said that triggered it. Maybe the W Word...w@®€r*me ?

[@Irene-m9n8b]

Sir,in any ongoing war reports of casualties are fudged by both sides: enemies higher,and Own much less.This is the norm routinely. Hamas and Iran leaders are already claiming victory and defeat of IDF.

[@muhammadsharif4005]

Thank you for your presenting the truth. 23:30

[@Nicholasrasmusen]

"Yom Kippur, which is an annual tradition in Israel" ???????????

[@AnwarSheikh-i3o]

As if that is that is only thing they have lied about.

[@maidenlogan4756]

IDF never faced real army and their best elites Jelani lost too much high ranking soldiers to eb able to operate against Hezbollah so maybe Israel going to lose lot of stolen land in the north

[@hassanhammoud2243]

SOLID YET ONCE AGAIN. Day in and day out brilliant work being done from the EI. Thank you so much for such honest consistent journalism work. Absolutely refreshing knowing in such traumatic times in the world today that we as the viewers are able to get an honest massive daily updated overview of the new ground zero. Thank you so much keep up the great work.

[@trevormarnies2768]

How does big pharma / drug corporations factor in this endless war?

[@kq8499]

Lies.lies.lies.is.what they excell.in!

[@reemaoun16]

Love your work

[@delphinemonnier7879]

Very informative.

[@diirshe884]

The truth. Thnk you guys

[@raycash4310]

It’s common sense if America told Israel they won’t win against Hezbollah. Israel were pushed back in 2006 by them.

[@simonlawrence1234]

Love the show. Great insight.

[@shirleycedillo1589]

Of course. That's all they do. Always

[@LI-es4lq]

Thank you for a good content

[@spartalaco]

keep it up!

[@Zym12w4d7amsj]

Blablabla you are Monsters.... Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@tiktikchannel8849]

many Jews people talk about a huge casualties of isrealis soldiers and hammas states that 3000 plus Israeli soldiers we have killed untill now .and 11000 soldiers have been injured..isreali says our heroes are going in tankers helicopter armoured vehicle but coming back in boxes and bags.

[@eddymercury5548]

Commenting for increased engagement on your videos 👍

[@DKX365]

Its not about hamas anymore how western media want to show. they want Palestinian land for themselves without Palestinian people

[@georgewatroba8333]

We still don't have the complete roll call of the names of the 1200 victims on October 7. ???

[@antnic21]

Their whole media pr machine is slowly cracking

[@mohammedabbaskhan704]

They cant make hero's out of zeroes

[@salameer6486]

This is great thanks

[@IlyasUmar-h2n]

Abu ubaida

[@arebeqa]

I did subscribe, like and this is my comment. A greate job really informative.

[@11916ag]

Thnx

[@amarafodha6067]

“The state tells lies in all the tongues of good and evil; and whatever it says it lies-and whatever it has it has stolen" Thus spoke Nietzsche

[@mikeleichtweis5046]

2500 kia...the truth will be leaked

[@gilavalos2400]

Like Scott Ritter said it will lower Israeli troop's morale if they knew how many soilders were killed in action.

[@bobsmith962]

Yes, in war the truth is he first causualty l

[@gilavalos2400]

@bobsmith962 I like that quote, thanks for sharing. I'm sure that I'll use it one day.

[@Guyfaulkes1605]

Scott ritter is a convicted paedo

[@jaydeep-singh-bundela]

Free free palastine ❤❤🇯🇴🇯🇴 Don't force people to repeat history as happend in the past by Hitler. Live peaceful and let live peaceful to others

[@boscape0667]

Who would believe IDF run health ministry

[@kakakhodenn9128]

OF COURSE, WHY WOULD WE THINK OTHERWISE , eh!!! Their close ties with Amerikkka would qualify them to be disingenuous of their losses, YES!!!

[@brynarosetober9940]

Mr SMARTYPANTS JUST GO THERE AND COUNT FOR YOURSELF!!!