WILL GO UP IN BR - M44 Dev Server - War Thunder

[@lfotzblitz7436]

I hope that at some point they add the Hummel as well.

[@Dhdja2741]

With m44 in place Hummel kinda doesn’t make sense to add, other than kinda like m44 but unique to Germany

[@Johnnie_Dench18]

@@Dhdja2741and the Wespe too

[@General_Rubenski]

@@Dhdja2741 I swear to fucking god if they dont add spg like the Hummel, Wespe, etc. because they say the M44 already fills that role, im going to lose it. Lazy ass company.

[@nikoladjurovic5843]

@@Dhdja2741 every nation having a leo and somekind of a T-72 doesnt make sense but its still here, at least wespe and hummel would kinda be uniqe

[@death22_fighter27]

@@Dhdja2741no? It makes so much more sense the Hummel and wesb could be 2 great yeet cannons hell they could make maybe the Hummel a premium or event vehicle

[@whatdothlife4660]

Of course it'll go up in BR. Seven moustaches is insanely OP.

[@enderman8151]

This vehicle looks really fun, I just hope it means we get other early artillery vehicles for all nations. The Hummel, Wespe, Grille, Bishop, Sexton, M37, M7 Priest, and so on.

[@petergray2712]

Hummel probably, and I would like the Grille. The others might be more problematic since most of them would be Rank I.

[@michaelburke9137]

​@@petergray2712The stumpy is already in game, so rank 1 shouldn't be an issue.

[@petergray2712]

@michaelburke9137 The M7 Priest and the Wespe would have an approximate BR of 1.7 (hemming and hawing on the Wespe because its ammo isn't as good as the USA gun). This determination is based upon comparing the Nashorn (5.3) to the Tiger II (6.7), using the Sherman (105) (3.0) as a baseline. The sFH 33 (sf) auf Panzerkampfwagen 38t "Grille" came in two variants: the mid-engined Ausf.H and the front engine mounted engine Ausf.K. The latter has much improved armor protection and an engine for crew survivability, so BR will be 1.0 (Ausf.H) and 1.7 (Ausf.K) (tbh as an American main I've always been impressed with the short German 15 cm gun) The M37 is almost identical to the M44. The only difference is that it uses the M24 Chaffee chassis instead of the M41 Walker Bulldog. So it goes at the same BR as the M44. The Sexton and the Bishop are more problematic: the 25 pdr HE round had slightly more explosive filler than the HE round used by the 75 mm M3 gun on the Sherman. It had an APCBC round, but its penetration seems to have been slightly worse than the Shot Mk.IXB APCBC-T round of the 2 pdr (70 mm at 400 meters). A HEAT shell was under development in Canada, but it was canceled after the 17 pdr was adopted, and a HESH round was developed postwar. But the BR is probably 1.0 to 1.3, and I'm inclined towards the lower value. Other WW2 artillery vehicles: SU-14-2: 203 mm howitzer on a T-35 chassis. Open superstructure. M-51: 203 mm howitzer on a KV chassis. Open superstructure. Hueschrecke: Panzer IV chassis with a 10.5 cm leFH howitzer in a detachable turret. Grille 17: Stretched Tiger II chassis with a 17 cm (173 mm) gun in an open superstructure. Theoretically, it could also carry a 21 cm Morser 18, though calculations showed that the recoil from firing a single round would have broken the vehicle. SU-152G SU-152P M53/M55 SPH: Contemporaries of the M44 built on the Walker Bulldog chassis. The M53 was originally designed as the T87 tank destroyer, mounting the same ordinance as the T30 heavy tank. The US Army later modified into an SPG with the long 155 mm Long Tom. The M55 was almost identical except that it was armed with the M1 203 mm Howitzer. While suitable for WT, these vehicles suffered from very limited ammo capacity.

[@petergray2712]

One more note to add: the M7 Priest, like the M44, can also be added to more than one tech tree. Specifically six trees: British, Chinese (Taiwan), French, Italian, Israeli, and the USA.

[@gunsblazing4509]

@@petergray2712 Let's not go spamming copies for nations that have clear alternatives. If you desire to see the M7 in foreign nations then perhaps you will be satisfied with the Italian L/34 modification or the Argentine version for Germany with an upgraded engine.

[@ValentineHolbert]

I hope we can get the Abbot, Sexton, Bishop, Priest, and Deacon in later updates.

[@General_Rubenski]

Nope, you'll get copy past vehicles and you'll like it

[@RedXlV]

@@General_Rubenski The M7 Priest can be copy-pasted all over the place. It was used by the USA, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Taiwan, and Israel, plus the Norwegian Priest could also be added to Sweden. In fact, I think it would end up as the single most copy-pasted vehicle in the game. (Because while every nation has at least one Sherman, they're not all the *same* Sherman like would probably be the case with the Priest.) So Gaijin will certainly add the Priest at some point. I'ts honestly shocking they haven't done so already, given how much they could copy-paste it.

[@Insanerobert44]

I am glad that we get the M44 in game, but in the same time I would like to see for other nations (where it's possible) their own alternatives. For example Germany could've have received the Hummel, which should behave quite similar to the M44, well....minus the .50 cal machine gun.But it's also on a pretty mobile chasis with a good gun traverse and weak armor.

[@RedXlV]

The Hummel wouldn't have a .50 cal, but on the other hand it would have additional ammo options beyond donking with HE. It could fire HEAT, SAPHEBC, and even APCBC-DS (similar to the shell the Maus gets but with lower velocity and pen).

[@petergray2712]

It would also come in at a higher BR, at least 5.3 or 5.7, probably lumped together with its Nashorn sibling.

[@gunsblazing4509]

@@RedXlV It's worth noting that the Hummel COULD have a 50. cal if we add the Syrian version to Russia...

[@02nightowl]

gayjin devs ability to ctrl V is unmatched

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

M44 before Priest and Sexton 😢

[@petergray2712]

The Sherman 105 is superior to both of them, which is why they haven't been added.

[@hereticwinter07]

Easy to deal with. Most people will be using it when the vehicle gets released. Just grab a Pz III with HE or a PzIV with the 7,5cm short gun. Overpressure city.

[@jamescharlesworth775]

The m44 is going to be such a menace in sim

[@penclaw]

That crew count tho. Such a human life waste incoming (CAS my boi)

[@joshuamueller3206]

Basically a free Brummbar that is fast with no armor and a.50 cal. This is the vehicle I am most excited for as it will be a long time until I can get the Rafael or Eurofighter.

[@imthygamer3566]

God forbid America gets their own Tank/Sph. They always do this to American vehicles

[@thebadwordman3193]

It's a thing called lend lease, why wouldn't they give it to their respective counter parts?

[@old_carkid]

@@thebadwordman3193 the lend lease act ended in 1945, the M44 came out in the 50's

[@hi-Larry-ous]

Blame America for exporting almost every vehicle we've produced

[@charch458]

Why would they? What would the game be if the country that sells or gives its vehicles to over half of the entire world was the only one that got to use those vehicles?

[@old_carkid]

@@charch458 If that were the case then the US should get the MI-8 and MI-24 along with the Kifir Canard

[@captainvlad]

It will when I get my hands on it!

[@Skyrim279]

This is like the free version of the Lorraine

[@cofro3284]

So the ww2 players have been asking for the ww2 SPHs for years and this is gaijin's response? Honesty this really pisses me off.

[@petergray2712]

M40 doesn't have fire-on-the-move ability IRL, and the M7 Priest/Sexton SPH would be no better than Rank I.

[@cofro3284]

@petergray2712 the modern SPHs don't fire on the move either. With that logic the M109, 2S3M, Type 75, BM-13-12, any of the Flakbus style vehicles, and the PZH2000 shouldn't be in game because they couldn't fire on the move.

[@TexasBoy13]

M40 LONG TOM IS A POSSIBLY YEAAAHH

[@petergray2712]

Impossible. The M40 has a rear outrigger that folds up behind the gun breech when the vehicle is moving, so it can not fire on the move. In gameplay, it would have to completely stop, extend its outrigger, wait for a shell to be loaded, and THEN fire. It would be a static TD, albeit with the AP round as the T30 heavy tank (each M40 was issued a small number of AP in case enemy armor threatened them).

[@TexasBoy13]

@petergray2712 im sure they could come up with somthing, as many other vehicles probably also have to have to be set up to fire but dont

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

@@petergray2712The Russian milk truck with a cannon has the exact same issue IRL, and it works just fine in game. It needing to stop isn’t an issue.

[@SilvaDreams]

​@petergray2712 To be fair the KV2 couldn't fire unless the turret was basically straight forward and on flat ground or the recoil would cause it to tip over but it can fire sideways up hill and be fine in game

[@petergray2712]

@Ghent_Halcyon if that's not a problem, then we come to the next issue, the BR. It's almost as powerful as the M109A1. It's an open top with limited traverse, but it also has access to the M112 APCBC round, which is almost as lethal as the M112B1 APCBC round of the T30 (possessing the same amount of explosive filler). This vehicle will kill most heavy tanks up to 1000 meters. So 6.0 to 6.3 isn't out of the question. So, should the M109A1 be buffed if the M40 is added?

[@mab2187]

This thing can be 5.0 easy, simply cuz it has good dynamics, fast and agile. SPAA should be reduced in BR.

[@nineonine9082]

A good backup for my 2C bis when I die, in my either 5.3 or 6.0 lineup.

[@Norrikan]

Y'know, I don't hate the M44 or anything, but it's not the first of its kind when I think about SPHs that aren't in the game yet. My bet would have been on the Priest or Bishop, to be honest.

[@Aqualobo242]

he he HE go Boooooom

[@the_defaultguy]

theres M44T form turkey i think one step back from M109 lmao

[@irontaoist2665]

Can we get the M55 for the US next?

[@thanos9820]

In WOT, i did massacres with this thing😂😂

[@SidewaysTV14]

Hummel whennnnn

[@rahmanlinux9602]

Whoaa big chonky gun i love it

[@PNolandS]

Laziest vehicle of the update. Been waiting for some lower tier HE launchers for a while now, but then gaijin completely ruined it by slapping it into every nation they possibly could. Would have loved to see the M7, the M37, the Sexton (maybe also the Yeramba), the Wespe, the Hummel, etc., but nope. Here's an otherwise nice vehicle that right off the bat is going to be fighting itself, itself and itself. Not to worry though, it'll have itself and itself for backup 🙄. Even if more unique vehicles get added, the damage is done, it'll still be here. I'm so unbelievably sick and tired of this stupid trend of adding a copy/paste to fill a gap...only to add a unique vehicle that does the same job a few years later, or just adding copy/paste for the sake of "Look, a """new""" vehicle!"

[@penclaw]

If they add everythang at once they would run outta thangz to add, someone in gaijin hq came up with m44 being perfect for christmas (almost) every kid gets gift this year by adding just 1 veh, lazy af. Clever? Rather not.

[@PNolandS]

@penclaw There are still plenty of variants and unique vehicles to add that Gaijin does not need to be drip feeding us low tier players new vehicles in between the hordes of premiums and top tier stuff every update. Additionally, if this is Gaijin's idea of a Christmas present, I'd much rather have what they did years ago when they just have players a choice between one of three low tier premiums. Those are vehicles you can have fun with and use to start progress on a new tree, they're meaningful and greatly appreciated, as opposed to THIS. Merry Christmas, here's a Vietnam war American SPH that you can use along side your Hetzer and Panzer IV, or your Sherman Firefly, or your Chi-To... *or your Hungarian and Italian WWII SPGs.* I don't think they mean it as a Christmas present, they're just lazy

[@penclaw]

@@PNolandS if only US mains received M44 the others would cry xD they think it was smart move but looks hillarious. I agree with u man but we all know what gaijin will do for money and to extend the stream of money is priority it seems.

[@ecchinosama1205]

Yep I tested it in the test server it Fast like the M41 and it can Donk Anything

[@Zagortej]

Sph?

[@hereticwinter07]

Self Propelled Howitzer. It belongs to the same class as Self Propelled Guns. Low velocity indirect artillery piece not designed for direct engagement. Basically an artillery gun on tracks.

[@Zagortej]

Ty

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Shame they are gonna up tier it as it’s the only thing that can reliably fight Russian vehicles and is fast. Crazy how when the arty vehicle hits another vehicle, the other vehicle dies. Don’t know why gaijin even gave us hope that something like this would stay at a low br.

[@Xfier246]

Bushes on t34 im disapointed

[@isaacnorton6251]

The German teams will ensure it does not actually go up in BR and I am all for that

[@mustafams553]

anyone know how can I enter the dev server

[@aapaap3106]

4.7 is more fair i think

[@Prisoner4245]

Naw make it 3.0

[@Aldairruby2001]

M44 is op beat ww2 vehicles Lmaooo

[@pinguino5105]

Such a cool vehicle, massive shame that it's not gonna be Unique to America. Giving it to Japan is especially criminal.

[@aldocarulli3054]

What a shit take lmao

[@General_Rubenski]

@@aldocarulli3054 Better than no take

[@pinguino5105]

@@aldocarulli3054 We don't need more copy paste, especially for nations like Japan which is already filled with copy paste, and not only that, filled with HE slingers. The only nation aside from U.S that should get M44 imo is Italy.

[@gunsblazing4509]

@@pinguino5105 Italy doesn't even need it, they should get the Semovente M43 149/40 instead. And Japan has other options that aren't primarily HE-based, such as the Type 56 SY or Ho-Ni II.

[@gunsblazing4509]

@@aldocarulli3054 How is it a shit take to want a vehicle to be unique to the nation that created it? Last I checked none of the other 5 nations participated in the M44's development or modified it on their own.

[@medos9854]

I really hope the French m44 recev new uniform

[@TheSnailfeeder]

141 views in 11 minutes, fell off

[@lumper1168]

lmao