ranking the worst k-pop fandoms in a tier list

[@theewoo]

DISCLAIMER (AGAIN): This video is a SATIRE based on these fandoms behaviors. It's obvious that not all fans act like i mentioned. Every fandom has its bad parts, some more than others. I stan all these groups, and i am part of all these fandoms. The intention here is to criticize the bad parts not the good ones.

[@catzuyuuu]

most of ur opinions are really amazing

[@Sugas_Girr]

💯💯💯‼️ I think this is one of the first of these types of rankings (from anybody!), that I pretty much all agree with, or can at least totally understand and feel your opinions & reasonings on!!! Great job! 🤗

[@Impactfuluniverse]

I'm sad because my fandoms are on the list 😭😭

[@itzpanda4809]

What about TWS fandom: 42 (Sai)

[@xephblade2630]

What satire mate you talking facts

[@_saiyuno]

"just a reminder that being gay doesn't mean you have the right to be a misogynist" THANK YOUUUU

[@Sigma_male.o195]

Wow

[@24-nguyenhuunguyen56]

True af

[@YuqisHairExtension]

i was gagged when he said that like you go girl speak the truth babes 😍😍

[@cuckoophendula8211]

Ah, like that one guy who recently got exposed for plagiarizing around 85% of his work while the remaining 15% was him just being misogynistic.

[@niko5191]

@@cuckoophendula8211 What is meant by being misogynistic in his case? I haven't followed it

[@gilarak]

"How can you stan Chuu and be an awful person?" This made me pause the video and comment because I could not agree more.

[@limgonnabeastar3320]

I was just about to comment that. So true

[@Hanzu_Yuzuru]

Trueeee I did see someone in roblox tho 😂😂😂

[@audre3yy]

Mostly because they want to defend chuu and loona if you want to say anything bad about them, but also they would do anything and I mean anything to defend loona so never believe an orbit. (most of the time they are joking but still lmao) edit: im an orbit btw and i love loona with all my heart and im just going to say that not all orbits are toxic, but a lot of them just are tired of the fact people are still supporting bbc and stuff, which can include a majority of people from other fandoms, so to many orbits they expect people from other fandoms to disrespect loona which is why some people don't respect other fandoms people, and no im not justifying anything im just saying from experience.

[@redeutteok1]

@@audre3yyeven Loona sometimes doesn’t believe orbit too

[@loonartms]

lol the world hates orbits for being funny.

[@randominternetcitizen]

moomoos are just happy we're even on the list

[@dhanachanahongsangbam1541]

Yeah 😂 i literally checked the names on the screen first. I really miss ot4

[@airisu572]

Came to the comments just to say that 🤣

[@rosalee7447]

I recon u guys have the sweetest fandom

[@Warriormoomoo]

I literally thought lsrfm logo was ours so I tried to see it in 720p video quality.. turns out it isn't

[@skittle2821]

so fr i miss mamamoo😭

[@bornkhiabich]

"Oh and learn how to vote instead of complaining" The way that my jaw dropped 😭🙏

[@Pabolandatiny]

For which fandom was that I didn't really catch it

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

that applies for mostly every fandom except a few on this list coz why tf you going "omg xyz deserved it more" when you can literally vote and try make them win😭😭😭😭

[@bornkhiabich]

@@Pabolandatiny For onces 😭

[@bornkhiabich]

​​@@n.i.k.i.t.athose comments make me annoyed cause wdym they deserved it but most of you all didn't vote??🙏😭

[@Pabolandatiny]

@@bornkhiabich OOOOOH makes sense thx

[@xoxocore]

you're a brave soul for posting this at a time when ppl cancel others for having an opinion different from their own.

[@Ronzo_DJ]

Ran straight here to say this.

[@chuuislovechuuislife]

Lmao what are you trying to imply

[@Cherylmayblii]

@@chuuislovechuuislife well nowadays people will act like u murdered their firstborn when all u did was disagree with their opinion 😭😭😭

[@chuuislovechuuislife]

@@Cherylmayblii it’s always been like that, that’s just a trait of humans. Everyone wants to think they’re right even if they’re not. Some people are just immature and never learnt to handle others opinions. Also sometimes the opinions people say are genuinely offensive, such as saying something bigoted or just insulting to an idol. I saw one person say Lia shouldn’t be an idol because she’s anemic, that’s just plain rude. Some opinions shouldn’t be said or even held in the first place.

[@Cherylmayblii]

@@chuuislovechuuislife exactly. It’s a human trait. And especially in this day and age, where platforms like Twitter and tiktok have made it easier for people to spread hate behind an anonymous account. That’s why the original person commented that it was quite brave to post something like this, more so in the kpop fandom. Also, wow, can’t believe someone said that about lia ???? What the hell, that’s so fucking rude 😭😭😭 she’s my bias and it’s painful reading such stupid and insensitive remarks :((

[@sjjn_]

Finally. Someone who gets how much nswers need therapy for having to defend our faves for being too good 😭🤞🏻

[@bellaluvshazel]

fr like being a nwser from 2022-late 2023 WAS HORRIBLE like why am I defending Lily & Haewon against people bc theyre good singers like what 😭

[@sjjn_]

@@bellaluvshazel peak was june last month tho, people were complaining that they were showing off too much with the backtrack stopping on purpose and stuff 😆

[@Seungberry_world_domination]

@@sjjn_Fr 😭 like if their talented why not be able to show it off? Been a nwser since late 2023 early 2024 and people bash on them for singing like chill 😭😭

[@A_Comfy_Blanket]

When Haewon got attacked for being a horrible leader/person like girlllllll... sit down because you clearly don't see how much she cares for these girls

[@gragalakaisel1477]

it's actually insane how they get hate for literally anything that's not even a bad thing. lol it's a good thing that they do yet they get hated lmao. ​@@sjjn_

[@blueberry_jell0]

“How can you Stan chuu and be an awful person” well said lmaooo

[@qxrlash7592]

@@blueberry_jell0 not all orbits are like that

[@Zainab-gd6xt]

@qx no duh that goes for practically every single group of people on earth

[@marul535]

how can ı be a neverland, a stay and a blink and an insomnia at the same time?💀

[@matoustrefil948]

OMG I am exactly the same

[@matoustrefil948]

KZbin have probably started cooking with their comment ranking

[@matoustrefil948]

OMG I am exactly the same

[@marul535]

@@matoustrefil948 ahahahahahah yes

[@marul535]

@@matoustrefil948 WOW FOUND MY SOULMATE

[@crimson_cat]

The reason why we Insomnias may seem quieter on the internet is because we spend most of our time hiding away and performing demonic rituals to ensure that our ladies keep renewing their contracts 😇

[@deannaw9128]

😂Sorry, insomnias for which group?

[@crimson_cat]

@@deannaw9128 Dreamcatcher lol 😆

[@deannaw9128]

@@crimson_cat oooohhhh ok!

[@likeAflamingo-i2e]

​@@deannaw9128 we got matching cloaks and staffs too! Mwahaha!

[@yueliadragonflavour731]

Or we are just busy watching the abracadra dance cover

[@Loozar402]

“It’s Pride Month all year long for inSomnias” The math checks out. They know what they’re talking about LOL 😂

[@ArmyBlinkStayOnceMidzyMoaMY]

My Opinion on this is: You shouldn't compare each fan with each other in the Fandom. Every fandom has this toxic people but also every fandom has kind and really nice people. The larger the fandom, the more toxic people it has. But also the larger the fandom, the more kind people it does have. Treat each other nicely and with respect. And if someone doesn't do it just ignore him/her. What I experienced is that most of the toxic stuff is in the internet. But every Fan i met in reallife at concerts (And I've been to 16 concerts in the last 2 years) was so sweet and nice. So yeah In the end of the day we all love the same thing. And that is being broke for our Idols💀

[@y3wnzznn]

Real

[@theewoo]

Thank you so much for the donation! You have no idea how much it means to me, really. As for your opinion, I 100% agree with you (i said sth similar in the pinned comment but you said it way better lol).

[@prettytopiashorts]

Lol i definitely wont go broke for a random Korwan idol who probably wouldn't even recognize me if they saw me on the street but ok

[@Itsmysecret17]

How can I go broke when am already living in a ditch😀​@@prettytopiashorts

[@prettytopiashorts]

@@Itsmysecret17 lmao fr

[@cost7518]

Army and blink takes thise crown on another level 💀

[@cursedcroissant4117]

Yeah it's cus these two are THE global groups people know them in small part of countries or ,village too so yeah they are very powerful and big and alot of them are overprotective (not all of them) and these kpop stans highlight that ..like why don't you talk about good side too the donation the good impact ?? They all are scared like their idols

[@alvi_omi]

Because They are both Huge Kid

[@si_multifandom_ch_5099]

Wbk 😭

[@WG_MC_CR]

The amount of unnecessary hate blackpink got since their debut especially in 2022-2023 is wild, especially considering the fact that kpop stans are literally the ONLY ONES hating on blackpink which just proves it's forced, as a blink i wish other blinks were as toxic as me during these times, I would flame these haters alive.

[@TheRealAomineDaiki1]

I’m not gonna lie, Blinks have been horrible recently like worse than Army

[@naysfile]

My perspective on Carats took a 180° turn after Joshua's dating scandal.

[@theewoo]

i made a video abt it and still managed to forget about it 🕊

[@hanifiied.]

your opinions. but let me tell you that i am a carat since years and all carats did was defend and i HOPE people do not trust tweets and comments of a made up scandal. no hate to your opinions. i respect you but CARATs do the best that they could for the boys and other than that we do not care less

[@MerlinEdicius]

I think the haters were actually antis disguising as fans iirc. Many c-carats (again iirc, majority of the hate came from chinese "fans" and the rumor started there) has made a claim that it was an anti group and it was planned along with the alleged gf[who was said to be employed by a chinese company and used svt as a publicity stunt]. The "dating proofs" were also debunked cause they don't match the dates their taken, posted and whatnot. It's just the matching outfits making it seem their "dating". The claims [also the c-carats debunking] are all on twitter&tiktok and I don't use twitter&tiktok; interested people should look there. PS: There are also actual carats who sent hate but it wasn't as big and horrible as people made it out to be. Every fandom will have bad apples, always, specially if they get bigger. Majority of actual carats I saw were happy and even joking about that Svt finally got another dating scandal and that they're not bitchless 😅.

[@saryangke2]

@@hanifiied. Are Carats like split between two groups? Because korea Carats took that scandal too far while international seem to care less

[@eightnvrs]

@@saryangke2 k-carats is the tumour of the fandom 🫡 pretty sure it's the same for almost every group

[@brunetteartist24]

I love how this specific image of chuu is used for thumbnails for any kind of insane fan behaviour related topics 😂😂😂

[@pineappl3pizzzasoju]

Babymonster fans working hard to become the 5th horsemen of apocalypse

[@lalisatherockstar]

Working hard to defend ahyeon*

[@Itsmysecret17]

Become her bodyguard. You would get paid for it as well. So it's a win-win​@@lalisatherockstar

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

if you asked me which fandom is the worst RIGHT NOW, i would definitely say new jeans' fans. i never knew they were so deranged brooo. they're a cult atp, not new jeans' but min heejin's😭😭

[@y3wnzznn]

I'm a bunny. But I don't understand wtf is happening at hybe atp

[@24-nguyenhuunguyen56]

Still can't compare to the misogyny

[@cheekycatkyujin]

REAL

[@cursedcroissant4117]

​@@y3wnzznnright? That min heejin has clearly brainwashed those girls i unstanned them after min heejin started shitting on other group like why tf are you dragging others , she's so fucking smart she said that bang pd pig text her and told her to crush aespa basically to sabotage them but she did the same thing with BTS , taking to shaman and all she's a snake Koreans are so dumbfvxk 😭 they attacking bang piggy but not that p3d0phile 💁🏽‍♂️idk why ? they never said a shit when people found evidence of that snake being p3d0phile must be busy crying over someone's dating scandals

[@vixxexo6855]

Agreed New Jeans fandom is the worst and they legit support Min Heejin who is a criminal.

[@cheekycatkyujin]

woo takin his daily bravery pills everyday😍💊

[@keithcraig506]

I think most InSomnias would help an old lady cross the street. I mean, as far as I know, we're the only fandom that will literally thank a troll for their view and comment on a newly released DC MV. Besides, reacters love us. We even had one reacter call us her safe space because we're so welcoming, friendly and non-toxic.

[@Yooh_The_Pooh]

@@keithcraig506 yup fr ,I think our fandom is quite mature compared to other

[@BhuTibet]

@@keithcraig506 love the comment couldn’t agree more

[@y3wnzznn]

JUST SO YK NOT ALL KPOP STANS ARE TOXIC WE JUST HAVE A BAD REPUTATION DUE TO ACTUALLY TOXIC STANS😢

[@_noonee_]

@@y3wnzznn Real.

[@demigodburnout]

Ye I’m an army but I have seen SUCH toxic armies

[@ijustwannaenjoymyselfhere]

WAIT WHATTTT I HAD NO IDEA 😱

[@y3wnzznn]

@@ijustwannaenjoymyselfhere really 😕😐 I was actually trying to tell people something important and you had to make a joke

[@ijustwannaenjoymyselfhere]

@@y3wnzznn sorry 😞

[@limgonnabeastar3320]

I think a prominent problem in the kpop fandom is just everyone being too chronically online (me included). Lots of people use Kpop as escapism and completely immerse themselves in it.

[@Ewnothank]

Ngl stayc fandom is one that i see less toxicity, like i aint saying they all angel, but from most interaction , almost all of them were sweet.

[@Run2Seeun]

We are just here for the great music (At least I am💀). The girlies are so sweet too 🥹

[@HOGISIMJAYUN]

I use to be a Blink and a Neverland, and now a Swith and I can honestly say that there's a big difference in each of these fandoms. SWITHs are mostly genuinely nice people.

[@d_ldo]

As a tokki under the age of 18, i feel like an intellectual for never accusing any group of plagiarising new jeans

[@stayville-connections]

being on the kpop side of the internet rly does make u feel smart 😭

[@A_Comfy_Blanket]

You must be the one carrying the one braincell, thank you for that!

[@A_Comfy_Blanket]

@dsjsi Are you hearing yourself? BP has released a SINGLE TT after NJ became a group. ONE. Delude yourself into thinking the other groups copy sure, but a group that hasn't been active since the very start months of NJs debut is insane lolllllllll

[@LeeKnowsthatyouknow]

​@dsjsi what.

[@Blossom_roll]

@dsjsi what did babymonster copy from newjeans did they do the horror like concept did they do girl crush and what are u trynnansay blackpink copying them like blackpink had a comeback before newjeans existed

[@yoongiverse.]

the atiny comment is definitely accurate as an atiny. most of the fans i’ve met are very sweet and just genuinely like them and their music, but some of them are actually insane and those ones are usually san(mingi sometimes too) biases(ahem sannie4luv) :( i just feel bad because the crazy people tend to cross the line and objectify them constantly which is super uncomfortable and gives us a bad rep. i think the rest of the fandom kind of balances it out because i’ve literally never seen a solo for any of the other members and in general they tend to be pretty nice

[@The_Binninator]

@@yoongiverse. Same for stay, so many normal, even very kind people and then you just run into some of them like...?

[@kalkxx]

yeah i feel like atinys only become toxic when we have to defend the group, which kind of happens a lot now that theyve gotten more popular. like you said the only bad atinys are the sexualizers and might i add the insane woosan shippers😭

[@asurafire5386]

Orbits are liars and it’s funny when it’s a harmless lie but it can get weird(as an Orbit myself) for example the billionaire lesbians meme from a couple years ago was SO funny and a nice evolution of the origin of the meme from WJSNs Mei Qi and Xuan Yi.(who I believe where the originators of the meme back in 2017) but sometimes it just is too far(the shipping wars are scary)

[@ivanishbotswhocommentingal901]

+ I won't forget how orbits said Idle is IS or pig meme.

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

As an Insomnia since 2020, I can tell you that even an A is underrating this fan community. Dreamcatcher stans are arguably the most positive, welcoming fanbase in the history of K-pop, partially because the group members themselves are so kind and open-minded and partially because of the underdog mentality. Watching your favorite group be increasingly amazing at performance, yet struggle for years to get any recognition has brought the fans closer together and just makes us happy anytime someone new recognizes how good Deukae really is.

[@alexanderrieger4679]

😊

[@keithcraig506]

As far as I can tell, we're the only fandom that will literally thank someone who is trying to troll a newly released DC MV for their view and comment.

[@DavidWeinehall]

JiU would be very disappointed if we did anything to disrupt her plans for a massive girl group collab, and to befriend all girl groups. If Dreamcatcher wants to be friends with all other girl groups, surely we InSomnias have no choice but to treat their fans well too?

[@loonartms]

That's true it's really hard for me to find fellow insomnias on twitter but some of that's because they never start beefs or set them up

[@pearinsomnia9188]

I honestly think insomnia are chill because the fandom has a larger % of non-kpop fans than other groups, which is why the biggest dramas are 90% of the time about how heavy the new title track is. We really are mostly here for the music!

[@Pabolandatiny]

Engenes should have been atleast at "in desperate need of therapy" 💀 And I'm a firm believer that the I'llit hate train will be over some day just like the Aespa one was during their debut😔

[@y3wnzznn]

I hope I love their sound I hope ILLIT and lesserafim get back on their feet I feel so bad since lesserafim literally had to turn off comments on everything 😭

[@yoongiverse.]

yeah engenes are really toxic a lot of the time, sometimes i question if they even like their music because i feel like i only ever see people talking about their looks. but also like most of them act like frat boys 24/7 and people who love that just confuse me(i love their music and i’d consider myself a fan of them since i’ve followed them since iland, that’s just my opinion)

[@ichhimaii1956]

engenes are vile esp. southeast asian engenes, them and stays r always starting sht unprovoked on twt

[@suzumi111]

@@yoongiverse. frat boys 😭 no but its true especially sunghoon i’m dying

[@yoongiverse.]

@@suzumi111 like i’m so sorry but it’s accurate 😭 it’s all i can think of when i see jake

[@pinkykamara3665]

I agree with you so much especially with the mys , orbits and blinks mys will gaslight and lie they'll downplay big achievement other groups have until their favs gets it they'll hate on every single group and then wonder why every fandom can't stan them

[@ce_982]

it's so hard being a clc stan and an idle stan at the same time because some cheshires are seriously unable to direct their anger surrounding clc's mistreatment/disbandment at cube and not gidle

[@cursedcroissant4117]

Damn Miss them girls 💔

[@emmaleeejohnson]

literally, and soyeon even wrote music for clc, so to see clc stans say it's gidles fault feels like when you're sibling is mad you made yourself a sandwich when they're hungry and your parents wouldn't make you food... but you also made you're sibling a sandwich, you just cant every day (of course in terms if the fandoms and not the groups themselves) miss clc though. i know they didn't technically disband but you don't need a technical disbandment at this point :/

[@RinnilleLeva]

"right now we're just suffering with lia's hiatus" as a midzy. i feel like i cant agree more

[@theewoo]

SHE JUST CAME BSCK

[@RinnilleLeva]

​@@theewoo yeah. i said that hours before the livestream so let's hope midzy got the antidepressant now. haha

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

Lmao, I love the “honey bees (peaceful unless provoked)” one. Me being a carat 💀

[@Itsmysecret17]

You are a carat ?? ¡???!???

[@Raineydropp]

"its pride month all year long for insomnias" - a true statement 😂A small, but loud and proud fandom fighting for every sliver to clout for DC to get noticed to a broader audience .

[@Teal_Crystals12]

yes baby yes🤧🤧

[@thedrummer7126]

As a member of many of these fandoms you gave me a deep belly laugh multiple times 😂

[@theewoo]

this made me so happy! thank you for the support 😊

[@pinksoft39]

Same, im a Neverland, My, Dive, Midzy, Kissy and lillie so it was wild to see how i went from in need of therapy to then beign Dazai (if you dont know in BSD one of the characters says 'the biggest misfortune for Dazai's enemies is that they are Dazai's enemies' and that somehow fits with the description given to Dive and My)

[@ericmfumu2003]

Most baemon stans are solo stans or blinks. Most of the solo stans are Ahyeon fans (not surprised 😅). They will bring down any member just to praise Ahyeon

[@BTSPAVEDTHEWAYYYYY_07]

Surprisingly Ahyeon is most hated members of group

[@ericmfumu2003]

@@BTSPAVEDTHEWAYYYYY_07 maybe but most of the time,it is her fans that harasss others. I had an argument with 4 of her Stan's already.

[@olanonwanon1531]

I saw some Rora solo Stan doing the same to Rami and Pharita. I understand Rora is a great vocalist and deserve more lines but you don't have to bring down Rami for that. Definitely most Baemon stans are solo stans. You have solos stans for all the member and toxicity in all of them. The more peaceful I come across was Rami solos stans maybe because she is the less biased.

[@olanonwanon1531]

Ahyeon is definitely the most hated for what I see but she also got the most solos stans. And while I agree some of them are the worst they are not the only one with toxic behavior i come across

[@ericmfumu2003]

@@olanonwanon1531 I agree. I like baemon but I avoid the fandom. Rami Stan's are normal but Rora Stan's are a whole different breed.

[@mrjackpots1326]

Atinys have always been very supportive of Dreamcatcher so I love them. Engene on the other hand have behaved in a most vile manner during Dreamcatcher's current comeback. Spamming their Justice MV in an effort to disrupt views. I hope this is a small minority, but it does reflect badly on the fandom. Once used to be a very kind fandom when I was part of it, but with great popularity come the lunatic fringe. That's just how fame works unfortunately. I'm a single stan, Dreamcatcher, so I don't know or care about the rest of them. They all should know that the Idol Groups do not want their fans to behave badly. The groups themselves know each other and there are many friendships between members of different groups. Just quit it and try to feel important in a more useful way.

[@Knownfromnowhere]

@@mrjackpots1326 tell them

[@Chaphant]

They somehow behave the same to other fandoms so nothing new about them lol.

[@Orangebloo]

Yeah i just saw an aespa fan bodyshaming heeseung on twitter and got 28k likes. Disgusting‌

[@itshana69]

@@Orangebloo real

[@Itsmysecret17]

What's even wrong with heeseung???? He's perfect rho😭😭😭😭

[@TheCotton.Candyy]

Dayum the "learn how to vote" hit home

[@Bluebubbles_original]

“Forever waiting for a comeback” 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@murongsun4630]

HELP we finally got zombie though 😭😭💔💔

[@Bluebubbles_original]

@@murongsun4630 😭😭😭

[@Newjeans.newtee]

As Bunny, i just don't understand how we become like that in just 2 years....

[@user_yo8wk2fl9s]

One person. Min Heejin

[@somebodygill8666]

This list was too real 😭 it was like whatever I've seen at twitter being summarized in a 9 minute video.

[@bornkhiabich]

The thing that i have seen in most of sm's group's fandoms is that all of them are so overconfident and they speak everything like it is a fact. Every single one of them literally.

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

brooo the way this is so true💀and they poke their nose in EVERYONE'S business. the pink blood effect ig😭😭

[@bornkhiabich]

​@@n.i.k.i.t.a If an idol has a single voice crack, yk who will be the first to comment.🙏

[@Arcticos0]

"they speak everything like it is fact".....that would be more credible had you not done literally the same thing in the very next sentence

[@bornkhiabich]

​@@Arcticos0 The last sentence is about every fandom that comes from a sm group. I just expressed myself wrongly, i didn't mean about all the fans in the fandoms.

[@cursedcroissant4117]

​@@n.i.k.i.t.aright they think their faves are best vocalist when only some sm vocalist are good like winter,d.o, chen , taeil and mostly older gen artist like suju , tvxq boa etc but i personally only like winter's voice . but yeah man they are just so over confident idk why maybe it's cus other group are more focused on performance and dancing. and sm groups are not THAT good performers and they be hati g on other idols voice and vocals while their own fave's voice have cracked so many time😂 they will take that as a fun

[@scoobylinny]

Did NOT expect one of Jiwoong's kiss scenes shoved in my face 😭

[@babette5918]

Honeybee until you say something bad about Soyeon... then I turn into a hornet!

[@zacharymendez1880]

Yes fr, I hate when people hate on idle because they literally started from rock bottom and ended on top.😭 I defend them too all the time they are so underrated

[@Her844]

Soyeon is a queen

[@pinksoft39]

When ppl dare to doubt her singing skills i get pissed but i dont say shi because that wouldnt be very Queencard of me

[@_noonee_]

​@@pinksoft39 I love the Queencard joke lmao

[@itsrainingcaratzens]

Mys, Bunnies, and Babymonster fans are the new Blinks fr... everyone copied aespa, NewJeans, and Babymonster according to them. Like Itzy was getting so much hate for "Born to Be" because they "copied aespa" and "Mr. Vampire" because they "copied NewJeans." Not every chill or dark song is plagiarism. These three fandoms also contribute a lot to the Le Sserafim, ILLIT, and IVE hate trains too. Under every single video of aespa's encores I see Mys especially saying "Le SsErAfiM, ILLIT, aNd IVE cOuLd NeVeRrRrR" like I'm sorry but NOBODY CARES!!💀 Love aespa so much but their fandom is beyond disgusting, and I'm saying this as a casual My.

[@ristocrats247]

Youre disgusting here pretending to be MY

[@BlueET3RNAL]

ITZY was getting hate for their Born To be album? Where the heck was this happening at? I didn't see that at all, though I exclusively stick to KZbin and avoid literally all other platforms so maybe it just didn't happen on this one.

[@deannaw9128]

IVE???? What the hell lmao??? LSF & Illit sure, but where are they getting IVE from like???

[@itsrainingcaratzens]

@@deannaw9128 They shouldn't even be mentioning any of their names, the videos are about aespa, Mys should talk about how talented aespa is, and not use other groups to lift up their faves

[@likeAflamingo-i2e]

​@@BlueET3RNALYep. The most hilarious were blonks accusing them of copying because of get this....born to be they had 4 members. - saw this one on Facebook and facepalmed

[@almeida.juliaq]

its honestly so sad to see many good groups with horrible fanbases, it kinda destroys the magic D:

[@strudelh]

As a MYs maybe it’s bcs I’m not on twitter, but I didn’t know a lot of them were misogynistic?? The most I’ve seen with MYs is them feeling like they’re superior towards other fandoms, but I’ve never encountered misogynistic MYs, I’ve actually seen the opposite lol. But of course these are just generalizations. 😭

[@24-nguyenhuunguyen56]

Don't open twitter pls, you probably want to d** if you see what Mys have done

[@baoziday5178]

As a my, I do not and I mean do not interact with this fandom. Especially with how they reacted to Karina dating and how they were cussing out the other girls just because Winter got less lines in the title track *for the first time since debut* . They literally hate it even when the other girls who aren't Karina or Winter get the chance to shine 💀

[@strudelh]

@@baoziday5178 omg the Karina dating thing pissed me off so bad. When I saw it got announced it was fine for like week. Then it escalated to sending trucks to SM, THEN she also got hate for apologizing for dating?? These people are crazy, SM should’ve starting suing ppl like they did to protect lesserafim lol.

[@baoziday5178]

@@strudelh bruh, the entire thing was just so disgusting. Especially when they kept calling her boyfriend ugly and telling him k1ll himself. Like, these new kpop stans need to get a grip on reality or go to therapy fr

[@strudelh]

@@baoziday5178 omg I didn’t even know they were saying all of that! but I’m not surprised. And the fact that gay MYs were actually mad that Karina was with a man. Like I thought it was all jokes, but a lot of them were 100% srs. Just completely deranged behavior. 💀

[@2ndMostUnoriginalUsernameEver]

Other fandoms before comebacks: endless fan wars InSomnias: driving around Seoul for the entire day to seven stations (on a map it makes a crown shape) to be airdropped mystery codes to solve, to figure out release dates and possible title track names (Btw how are Teumes worse than engines, as someone who only uses tiktok as social media? The worst of them just complain that people ranking them are biased against them, meanwhile some engenes still are attacking and mocking yoshi's dad bc he passed away. Most of the time, if we are in fan wars it's bc we are the punching bags and are dragged into it (any and every yg group is))

[@BTSPAVEDTHEWAYYYYY_07]

People always forget good side of us like till now i didn't find a single teumes hating on other groups they just demand proper treatments for treasure and they deserve it because they are so talented, teames even help and support babymonster they are just so sweet ❤ as a babymon i support them

[@stayville-connections]

yg stan’s in general are a very special case. most times they only stan groups from yg and are just quite annoying about things especially on youtube. however i really haven’t seen much of that these days. i rly like treasures music when i first heard it, but the fandom deterred me from checking them out further. nowadays they don’t really attack people or go outside of their little yg bubble

[@subhikshasankaran5962]

Trust me teume are welcoming and very less of them may have hated or said something about anyone

[@yuucola4145]

We InSomnias are either busy listen to Dreamcatcher or watching their contents or complications 😂. And i agree with you Teume are actually pretty chill tho meanwhile Engenes on the other side for some reason always want to pissed off Teume for no reason

[@ijustwannaenjoymyselfhere]

@@yuucola4145 you sure? teumes are ALWAYS dragging enha unprovoked.

[@daerincakes]

all kpop fandoms have good and bad sides, unfortunately, the bad tends to overshadow the good 😭 I'm a multi stan too but mainly a once and bunny, it shocks me how some of us bunnies can't read and we've gotten such a bad reputation from the whole 'I'll it is copying newjeans' situation, which is absolutely pathetic. And as a bunny over the age of 14 its sad that I have to teach my fellow younger bunnies how to read and respect others opinions 😭💕

[@limgonnabeastar3320]

I won't forgive a certain portion of Engenes for spamming gore images on weverse when black engenes just wanted to know if Heeseung said the n word or not.

[@imtired381]

as an Atiny, Insomnia, nswer, and Neverland. This video has me THRIVING‼‼‼

[@kinoko_320]

same!!

[@Criogenico113-Neverland]

I ser someone who stans _TALENT_ 🤩

[@pinarseraphic]

as a pre-debut stay YOU'RE COMPLETELY RIGHT. THESE CHILDREN NOWADAYS☹️🙏

[@RandoMize-ys4qv]

@@pinarseraphic Ikr

[@lovelickyist]

Yeah, the Zerose description is 100% accurate lol. Being in zerosetwt really is an experience

[@yoongiverse.]

a good like 50% of the content i see is just “haha they’re gay!” and sometimes i wish zeroses would come up with more original jokes

[@jemheres]

​@@yoongiverse.CLOCK IT because the "haha look mother hanbin!! jiwoong boy kisser!! hao freakiest twink!!" jokes are becoming slightly stale in comparison to like genuinely funny shit other people in the fandom say or post 😭

[@yoongiverse.]

@@jemheres seriously like i’ve seen very funny zerose content that doesn’t involve calling them gay lmao it’s possible to do

[@lovelickyist]

​@@yoongiverse.it's a huge shame that zeroses are known on twitter for being fujoshis and the like. as someone who's been in zerosetwt since predebut, the rps aspect of it has to be the most annoying part of the fandom. they take any friendly interaction and just go "see guys they're so gay for each other!!!" like wtf. i understand haobin, because it's haobin and any type of fan knows that they have something going on, but mannn the rest feels so forced. they gaf more about their AO3 numbers than about the boys' promotions and endorsements and i'm SO tired of it.

[@yoongiverse.]

@ fr!!! like i’m not even fully a zerose but the first time i saw a clip of haobin i was like “ok genuinely what’s going on with them tho” 😭 but the rest of them? yeah like why does everyone care if they’re gay lmao just enjoy being a fan

[@azula_a0]

As a die hard neverland, yes.

[@purena.noexiste]

as a tokki I came to the realisation that inadequate part of our fandom has the most media attention🫡 I’m over 18, not jobless and there are a lot of tokkis like me, but the thing is that we don’t participate in this plagiarism accusations of everything. we’re here for nj music and other projects and as every fandom we step in to protect girls from accusations, but not attack others, so I more than agree with a point that every fandom has both crazy and good fans

[@howeybloom]

as a nctzen its so true we only fight in our fandom and we make fun or teased each other and even the members would teased us but im a multi stan and i love all the groups you listed haha 💚💚

[@nattiebee]

I feel both pride and shame being an army. It’s something I’ve learned to live with. I’m not doing the crazy shit you see online but I get lumped into the toxicity by proxy.

[@deannaw9128]

Lol

[@R2Mw19]

True, but in fairness we eat each other too… so there’s that….💜

[@MHM6081]

Same.

[@MHM6081]

@@R2Mw19 It's like we have an autoimmune disease and an anger management disorder.

[@2자매]

orbits are terrifying istg😭😭😭

[@Rav_23_]

As a moa, i actually have rarely seen any toxic people in the fandom, maybe because I don't go on kpop Twitter... I have always viewed kpop fandoms as agressive and annoying before knowing txt, and i felt like MOA were way more chill. I don't know about other fandoms since I've never interacted with them

[@Engeneforever-3011]

@@Rav_23_ same I have a moa friend and she is a sweet and chill person . Don't lash on other. Well I am rarely on Twitter so clearly don't know whether they are toxic or not.

[@HeavenGyu]

Right! Moa didn't bother when TxT did collab with Anita. As a multistan I'm also engene . I remember how much hate Enha got after bite me's choreo with female dancers

[@hrtofvenus]

it’s probably bc i’m not on twt but all the other dives i’ve encountered are so sweet 😭 we are very defensive though

[@gaellelm6678]

Same, like I'm only in KZbin and all I see are cute edits of the girls or the music, their improvements or wonyoungism (like some advices for morning routine) . The only time I saw a pb was with the lines distributions and Chan room's stay insulting ive over nothing. Same with neverlands and midzy

[@stayville-connections]

dives are generally sweet but because of the whole chans room thing, they’re a lot more hostile/defensive especially towards stays 💔

[@hrtofvenus]

@@stayville-connections ohhh okay 😭 i actually hadn’t heard of that incident at all before, but after looking it up it does bring way more context. thank you both 💞

[@pinksoft39]

Same! I follow some Dives here on youtube and theyre very sweet

[@pinksoft39]

​@@stayville-connectionsas far as i know from vids i saw here on youtube it was ive antis who started saying that Chan was talking about ive🤷

[@luv_mark]

I need blonks to stop throwing hates towards Nayeon like literally they're obsessed. Recently with Nayeon's cb they always say nayeon copied jennie in a hilarious comparison btw. because it literally what nayeon does and it doesn't make sense because sometimes it's just the outfit that wasn't really the same outfit just similar 😭😭

[@lalisatherockstar]

Who said that only once were hating on Chiquita for wearing the Same outfit as nayeon did

[@santoshsharma483]

I am a proud Moomoo, Neverlander, InSomnia, Diedem ( you didn't mention Rolling Quartz fan base). 🤘🥰🤘

[@FrostyPlayzYT]

fyi as a flover, u are correct ! ive legit never met a toxic flover, im not like a massive flover but every single flover ive met has been an actual saint as for carats, i really thought they were sweet but then well,, i realized that they were just hiding their toxicity really well 😭 also as for buddies,, im a buddy but the amount of unprovoked lsf drags,, plus the random entitlement that buddies have is not it

[@sameerakhan7455]

I'm a huge flower but same here. They're very nice, even (MOSTLY) on Twitter, which was insane to me. They mostly bash at HYBE/Pledis for zero comebacks. However, they're quite nice and I always see them ACTUALLY talking about music AS WELL AS other things like their visuals and funny moments, which I appreciate. Like, even with Gyuri we're quite supportive and happy for, especially since it's obvious they all keep contact with eo. However, they do take it a bit far with their mismanagement to the point it almost seems like they're bragging. Otherwise, they're quite nice! Even respectful to the male fans. I'm a girl myself but it always felt a bit weird how outcasted male fans are. I know majority are actually male (due to them being military queens) but other than wishing there were more in person female fans in events like fan meets, flovers don't speak ill about them, which is unusual in other fandoms from what I'VE seen

[@FrostyPlayzYT]

@@sameerakhan7455 no fr bc i ult loona and a lot of orbits are extremely um… towards male fans. tbf the males fans are the ones who are literally insulting the members on their chatting platform but it’s super weird how stigmatized it is to hate male fans based off a stereotype (and bc orbits comprise of mostly queer women lmao) flovers on twt are super sweet,, tho i do agree with the “bragging” part in a way,, the mistreatment olympics rlly is a big thing on twt 😭

[@sameerakhan7455]

@@FrostyPlayzYT Oh, I'm an orbit as well (not the biggest tho) and I definitely have multiple accounts pop up who ult Loona and qhil they're hilarious and ACTUALLY seem to be working hard to help boost the girls, especially during and after the whole BS BBshit put them through but they are objectively very toxic. I mean yeah, the male fans usually are the ones to cause problems with Loona but it gets too much like you said. Oh GOSH, that's a perfect line. The mistreatment Olympics. Like, wouldn't it be better if your favs are the most favoured??? For me, I would love my favourite groups (like Fromis_9) get the best treatment rather than the stupidity that is going on with them. Idk WHY they wants others to know it's "organic" and unlike the other groups' "company privilege". I've seen lots of toxicity and I block and don't engage with them, staying on familiar sides (Fromis_9, TripleS especially, the almost dead WJSN, Red Velvet and dabble a few fandom twitters mostly) but even THEN I only follow chill accounts yet STILL get that BS. Btw, what's your pfn on the app? Would love to follow you there😅

[@regalroyn1011]

There're some minority toxic flover especially in twitter. But IDK if they're really a flover or a mulfan or even haters acting like one. These people either have beef with Once, hating on male fans whenever a survey shows most fromis_9 fans are fanboy, or bragging about fromis_9 comparing it to other HYBE gg. They're super minority tho since most flover are nice. We never have infighting too since most people change bias every comeback

[@jocram-rh7ju]

I am just glad fromis_9 is even mentioned in this video

[@ashton_playz9341]

The nmixx one is so true lmao

[@ahmeddanish1777]

You don't need haters when Once is your fandom.. oh god dude chill

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

fans of groups under essem are a menace to the society. you could be praising the vocals of your faves in sahara desert and an sm stan will come out of sand to say their faves are better😭😭😭😭😭

[@youdontknowme_bish]

gosh this is so funny and so true💀

[@stanbts]

This is so accurate

[@akuhappy3246]

😂, as an sm group music fan, this is so funny. Yeah, lots of fans have questionable characters

[@WyattSuh]

😭😭😭

[@cursedcroissant4117]

damn seriously but this person seems like a sm fan too😂

[@beyou1354]

As a monbebe myself, I think we're happy just for being on the list lol I love this fandom SO much! And I also love carats, even though I'm not part of the fandom! They're really nice people :)

[@bornkhiabich]

Thank you about the gays line. They literally are so vile and disgusting when it comes to fan wars...

[@stayville-connections]

who are we talking about? can i get a timestamp cus im confused 😞‼️

[@bornkhiabich]

​@@stayville-connectionstoo lazy to watch the video again but he was saying, that just bc gays are gay it doesn't give them the pass to talk sht.😪🙏

[@pruitv4]

ironic coming from you everglowup aka winterosy, peachxtaehyung, choujimi, ningverse, aedark etc who still bshes all groups all day and wants them to d13 with alts like nasrun, hypeboy etc.

[@jemheres]

​​@@pruitv4pruit i am BEGGING you to let it go because nbgaf about everglow-up nor do the other people you keep mentioning in your comments have anything to do with that godawful woman, you're becoming annoying 😭

[@pruitv4]

@@jemheres try another alt because everyone cares and we can see that, only you who would beg to be left alone after being xpsd with your alts like narsun etc with which you wish idols to d13 no other person would beg for you like this.

[@youdontknowme_bish]

THE NCT ONE OMG FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. someone needs to scream it on their faces that they're NAWT funny😭😭 infact majority of times, they're extremely racist in the name of being funny😭

[@yoongiverse.]

i’ve seen really funny things from them but a lot of the time they’re just saying insane things for the shock factor and it’s gotten very old

[@Snowflaxe7065]

I sawn few literally funny tweets in pinterest.. like u see someone did a nct instrumental video with title "chenle laughing but you're in a bathroom at party" and their were lot of funny and insane things I found about them like putting a weed in their light stick... It's just like stays I guess.. bad overshadows the good factors

[@sadsda-p3h]

girl look at ur user.. calling us unfunny gn ik ur ass a stay too gtfo

[@sadsda-p3h]

@@Snowflaxe7065 stays??? gtfo omg

[@Snowflaxe7065]

@@sadsda-p3h can you uhm read the op comment? It's about nctzen i-

[@apbananas2]

I’ve seen a lot of crap go down in the Insomnia fandom but it’s (mostly) kept in the fandom because it has to do with the companies lazy attempts to promote the group, concert tour locations & MMT, or whether a dc song is rock or not. Fandom fights rarely happen but when they do, it’s mostly about the rock genre… other than that, we are gay and proud all day.

[@pearinsomnia9188]

Which is authentic, because there’s nothing more metal than arguing over which of the 100+ subgenres a song belongs in, whether that makes it objectively inferior to *insert subgenre here*, and complaining that the presence of a single electronic element makes it Not Metal and makes the band a total sellout (while still buying show tickets lmfao). I love Insomnias because they act a bit more like a metal fandom than a kpop one, actually.

[@yuucola4145]

As InSomnia since debut, i agree with you. But the drama between the fandom and company are really not big. For the rock genre, i have to agree. Some prefer the debut era rock style, some prefer current style, some want full rock album, some want mix genre album, some says it's a rock songs, some says it's not. It's annoying, yes but trust me as a fan of rock and metal, these debate or argument in rock genre are completely normal among rock fandom. Up untill to this day, the metal fans are still argue whether Linkin Park and Slipknot are metal or not😅

[@yuucola4145]

​​@@pearinsomnia9188💯. InSomnia reminds me A LOT of BMTH fandom. Always argue about the non-metal element pressence in their discography 😂

[@Black3ight]

@@yuucola4145 For DC they are literally a kpop group that has rock elements infused in their style/sound. How people argue over that is beyond me.

[@catzuyuuu]

although not every part of a fandom is toxic, I agree with almost all of these

[@MHM6081]

ARMY here, and I agree with you to an extent. You can't say even the smallest negative thing without someone getting upset, and I find myself censoring myself constantly. It's too bad because I enjoy a good honest discussion. But your rating is not entirely accurate. I don't think true ARMY are the ones hating on other groups. There are a lot of antis posing as ARMY. With this in mind, I would put us "in desperate need of therapy."

[@neisgevauqjjq9558]

Conclusion: Every fandom has worst fans and good fans. So dont give f about how fans are just listen to music if artist. If Liked a song ,enjoy it, didn't like it move on to next song. Simple.

[@yuucola4145]

exactly, musics are meant to be enjoyed not to be judged. If you like it enjoy, if not, move on.

[@memphiis]

this was so incredibly accurate 😭 it's so nice to see someone with common sense make a tier list with no bias towards one group.

[@cupidttps]

people suddenly come after us carats whenever we fight back but we just do it because other fandoms keep attacking us and starting things unprovoked 😭😭😭 and they’re always like “where’s the peaceful fandom now?” so what do ya’ll want us to do? not defend svt? 😭😭😭🙏

[@val_svt]

TELL EM

[@kalkxx]

ITS ALWAYS ARMYS TOO LIKE THEY NEVER LEAVE US ALONEEEE

[@qball7820]

It's nice to see where you ranked me! 😂 SWITH! Although I am a fan of other groups, I really enjoy STAYC. Even though I'm not a 'religious' follower of any group, I can absolutely see why you ranked some fandoms where you did.😅

[@sameerakhan7455]

I'm a casual swith but OMG, they're so incredibly nice. Them and Monebebe's (Monsta X's fandom) With the upcoming comeback being so different, it's the first time I've seen swith actually being vocal which is great to see as STAYC have been unfortunately getting a bit behind in popularity, especially internationally for some reason because honestly, it's been getting harder and harder to find Swiths. In fact, other multistans like me have voiced the fact that there are barely any of them on Twitter, which I believe is a good thing. I've honestly only seen Swith being very nice and sweet so it's great

[@qball7820]

@sameerakhan7455 I think a reason why they may not be as popular is because they don't have that 'one' person that everyone talks about or their bias. They're very talented singers and dancers. Which is a big reason why I like them the most. Being cute is just a bonus 😊 I also have to give credit to High Up Ent. for giving these young ladies the right songs and B.E.P. for mixing everything just right.

[@pporappippam9687]

@@sameerakhan7455 though its not really 'comeback' that is different. its pretty much only the title song choice that raised questions for me personally. BUT since their ceo are music producers i understand the idea of using 'not so obvious' title song whilst also creating yet another good choreo parts for various shorts/tiktoks and whatnot. ever since i first time watched MV and listened to album i figured that musically its an experiment and the rest is usual '#[title_track]_challenge' video typa stuff, so im not that bothered. album is still good and didnt disappoint. mostly in this whole thing for music and 'healthy' agency direction. (like bruh, be that any other fandom from a bit earlier era isa would be eaten alive into eating disorder or smth, but since debut i have not seen her get crazy, nor seen much hate towards her; but i would guess thats also just recent wave of 'tolerance' that only now is reaching kpop) but all in all, if kpop fans just delete twitter accounts and accept the fact that all idols lipsync and most of them dont produce stuff and for the most part are just performers and alive human beings. it would be a better place to actually get into, but that would mean changing whole industry around it which is near impossible

[@Neekachu11]

Honestly loved this video- coming from someone who now avoids most of kpop due to the toxic fandoms, I feel refreshed.

[@cosyreadingtimes8857]

as a long time stay, the last few years have been so exhausting. There was a point when this fandom was genuinly kind to everyone, but yeah, the toxicity rose with the popularity.

[@Lyssumlyssum]

I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE 4 HORSEMAN, you’re so creative 😂 Before watching, I totally expected Mys and Orbits to be at the top, and I was right. I've been eagerly waiting for someone to rank the most toxic fandoms, and this list is spot on.

[@cheekycatkyujin]

you have probably not encountered enough keplians 😭😭 the whole fandom, (including me😍) is full of solo stans esp the bahiyyih ones, who can never let you praise another member in peace💀

[@theewoo]

someone said the same thing 😭 I think i live in the nice side

[@jsyhrts]

or most of them r ot8 stans and hate on hiyyih for breathing 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@yoongiverse.]

i’ve met really sweet ones but there definitely are a ton of solos 😭

[@adrinlotw9345]

Yeah every time I come across a keplian they’re always fighting

[@radioactive_baby]

@@jsyhrts the amount of hate subreddits towards Hiyyih I saw r8ght after they debuted was crazy. She was getting death threats while on GP999

[@iamnancy0601]

The rank for neverland is soo accurate ❤

[@joesama3282]

I love how basically HYBE and YG fandoms are lower or bottom tier oof... But I agreed with the ranking because encountering them on tiktok, reddit, twitter and facebook post and interaction was like watching Homelander getting mad on every episode and start lasering everyone lol. Their daily routine of cyberbullying is next level. They also tend to have outrageous siege mentality that don't allow others to quietly enjoy their groups, until they can downplay you so that they can feel superior for a day lol PS. I have an civilized interaction with MooMoo, InSonmia, Carats and Buddies

[@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine]

What do you expect from multies, they don't do research, Army wouldn't be their if they weren't harassed an attacked unprovoked all the time for simply breathing and BTS existing

[@yorubademon6353]

As a Nevie, I endorce this message when it comes to IDLE. We don’t care about what’s going on with your group. Just don’t come for our girls. It is as simple as that. Plus we like good music and jam to it when your group releases one.

[@bornkhiabich]

The only thing that won't sit right with me everytime is when some women themselves slvtshame and say vile things for successful women. Sister we are supposed to be a peaceful and supportive country.😭

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

gg stans in a nutshelll😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@bornkhiabich]

​@@n.i.k.i.t.a they will be feminists only when it comes to their favorites. They drop that card as soon as they get into a fight with another gg fandom. 😪

[@pruitv4]

ironic coming from you everglowup aka winterosy, peachxtaehyung, choujimi, ningverse, aedark etc who still bshes all groups all day and wants them to d13 with alts like nasrun, hypeboy etc.

[@jsyhrts]

​@@pruitv4 im gonna jump you

[@Itsmysecret17]

This mf Pruit needs therapy!

[@dean.mcmxcvi]

My’s are the fourth gen blinks and you can’t change my mind!

[@GardenOfJules]

me, a veteran army from 2014, coming back into the fandom after 5 years to see it gone up in flames and our reputation ruined

[@lilylookittykyu3115]

Of course Teume's need therapy, we're all broken after Mashiho and Yedam left, then out of pocket controversies just starting coming out of nowhere without YG even batting an eye to help anyone out of the hot water... All we wanted was to stay in our bubble fandom and sing Jikjin down the freeway 😭😭💔

[@Gyaru-Girly]

I totally agree with the placement of MY's like I'm a NSWER and I get attacked by MY's on twitter like why are we fighting??? We are basically sisters.

[@Snowflaxe7065]

5:01 god 😭 i am kind of overwhelmed that some kpop fandoms do think of us like that though as fandom is growing bigger and bigger things are getting out of control...

[@epls0.0]

as an atiny I agree but I have to add, one of the most traumatized fandom, lot's of triggers of bad memories and because of that sometimes I just wish I could slap some good sense in them. Like, everything they scream abuse, I don't think they know what real abuse is, tbh the members are very sweet, talented and hard working we don't have many issues with them specially since they are willing to learn and improve always, but the fans are in fear is always exagerating some situations. I like the sense of humour tho, sometimes atinys are very very funny, but I think we get so much hate sometimes out of nowhere that is tiring. I take breaks from twitter sometimes to avoid being corrupted, I refuse to be part of some of the shenanigans. But yea they are not the fandom that is looking to hurt other fandoms, but they can get nuts sometimes.

[@raisou9750]

MOAs maybe part of Lobotomy Kaisen because of Soobin liking Gojo and Yuta and y'know what happened, right?

[@junkin456]

s very funny how much fandom experiences varies for people I just recently saw saw people saying all ex engene fandom members need free therapy and this is the first time I heard about neverland and orbit fighting omg

[@pinksoft39]

SAME! I just saw Blinks fighting Neverlands to see who is a betyer rapper lol

[@heejinate]

us orbits may be toxic but we fight with blood and tears

[@emmapierelli1748]

I'm an elf and yes the fandom is pretty peaceful and most of the time they are the ones who are making fun of the members instead of the haters, trust me on that.

[@zacharymendez1880]

I feel like I’m the only kissy in this comment section. As well as a kard Stan. 😭😭😭 I love my girls from kiss of life and it feels like every fandom is out for them all the damn time. Other wise tho I say we chill. most kissys I’ve met have either recently become fans or been there since day one. And I’ve been there since day one 😭.

[@pearinsomnia9188]

It’s such a shame people don’t check out Kard as more than a novelty, their music can be hit or miss but they have some genuinely great songs.

[@zacharymendez1880]

@@pearinsomnia9188 I love their songs . Red moon is a sleeper hit, icky and cake are good for what they give. They have so much potential. I love them

[@lalisatherockstar]

Except for the hate some kissys give to babymonster

[@ferlozz]

nswer is a fandom that is only dedicated to being happy and loving our girls, making theories, enjoying funny clips, enjoying great talent, and making memes, but always with respect for our girls, some fandoms boast a ' ´great humor´´ but their jokes or memes go beyond respect for idols, I think, maybe some people see us as a ´´boring´´ fandom but I think it is a fandom with an image that totally reflects nmixx: )

[@DieSomnia_]

I'm an InSomnia.. And this is the happiest fandom I've been in. 💕

[@j.2257]

the editing and memes are hilarious!

[@soojinsmaze]

did not have to call me out like that with kard

[@glennbarrow8325]

*New to Dreamcatcher??* Top Favorite: Silent Night, Eclipse, Deja Vu and Whistle Popular: Deja Vu, Odd Eye, OOTD & Maison Known for their: Anime vibes and jpop/jrock inspired Debut song: Chase Me Anime vibes: Eclipse, Silent Night, Full Moon, Starlight, Over the Sky, Deja Vu, Chase Me, I miss you, R.o.S.E Blue Other genres: Red Sun, Black or White, Wind Blows, In the Frozen, Daydream, Entrancing, July 7th, Lullaby, Emotion, 4 Memory, Poison Love, Alldaylong, Starlight, Sahara, Jazz Bar, Mayday, Sleepwalking, Diamond, Locked inside the door Evanescence vibes: Break the Wall Rock Theme? : BOCA, Justice, Rising, Breaking Out, Endless Night, Tension, Curse of the spider Title Tracks(MVs): Chase Me, Goodnight, Fly High, You and I, What, Piri, Deja Vu, Scream, BOCA, Odd Eye, BEcause, Maison, Vision, Bonvoyage, OOTD, Justice

[@glennbarrow8325]

6:52