Where did Onewheel put the upgrades?

[@stanleyshaw7314]

New onewheel release has me hyped, not for the board but the TFL reviews

[@floatwheel]

lol, they copied us by using DIP cap and toll mosfet!, LC connector are nice touch though, finally some tasteful part choice

[@-JohnSmith-]

They released this because of the Floatwheel, people have mentioned all the problems with the past one wheels in the comments on their social media they don't delete them as soon as you mention Floatwheel you're banned from commenting, only I can see my comments now

[@floatwheel]

@@-JohnSmith- understandable

[@Broderickk]

I mean… you copied their whole board. 😂

[@floatwheel]

@@Broderickk I mean how, there's not a single part that's the same with any onewheel

[@frudthespud]

​@@floatwheel you guys rock! My ADV pro is a beast, my first onewheel style board and I'm loving it :)

[@itsnotzura6859]

it's a good day when a TFL video drops

[@TheFloatLife]

Good days at least twice a week!

[@TBrady]

Very smart FM, drop the new board going into winter so over heating issues won't surface untill they are out of warranty

[@landonlove4101]

Oh my gosh 😭😭 you’re not wrong

[@stephenhruby8763]

Truth. Also right before the holidays/black friday when they can shave a couple hundred dollars off to get those "sales."

[@dezh2544]

A year from now is past next summer……..

[@IIISentorIII]

@@dezh2544 Every Sixty Seconds A Minute Passes In my Country...

[@sadanimal1950]

More floatwheel vids!

[@Alex-ge6fo]

GT-S sells for about 39% higher price than the GT. You guys know manufacturing costs, so I'm wondering what is your estimate of the % additional cost for FM to build the GT-S vs. GT? I suspect the profit margin is super-sized on the GT-S. Thanks for the thorough and objective review of the GT-S. TFL = Truth!

[@0newheeldrives]

Usually profit margin is about the same throughout a lineup of similar products. BUT, the profit contribution on a more expensive wheel will be higher, so it's worth having.

[@mechwar31]

Now that we're 8 months after release, we know a little bit more about the GTS and where the cost comes from. Yes, there is always going to be a profit margin, however they did use some higher quality parts in here that are expensive. The stronger magnets added a little more cost. The p45b cells came out only a little bit before the GTS did, they were expensive then and they are still expensive now. Probably the biggest cost hike is going to come from the SKF bearings. Yes, SKF has a reputation for making the best bearings in the world, however, for the application, I don't think you need SKF bearings and also the specific bearings they got are a questionable choice. The SKF bearings that FM is using have a single non-contacting seal. The GTS uses the same bearings that were used on the Plus, before switching over to the much cheaper C&U bearings.

[@SeanPaulNotTheSinger]

Being a full-time kilt wearer, fenders are almost a must. No one wants road salsa tossed up there. Cool seeing a teardown with actual measurements, not just eyeball comparisons. While I like seeing the simple fixes they implemented, I'm disappointed they haven't done anything (apparent) to address the axle weaknesses and heat dissipation issues. Thanks for the continuation of your "Get to know the GT-S" video series.

[@redboyjan]

FM's "constant evolution" they talk about. Not

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

Mob shop was claiming a thicker axle and different o-rings all sorts of differences. Nice to see it measured with a caliper for proof it's the same. Also FPV quad motors have had curved magnets as the standard for years there's even motors running ring magnets or two rows of magnets with the top and bottom offset, lots of different things that can be done. Back when I was into rc cars some motors for them twist an angle into the stator for more torque I believe and silver wire instead of copper is a tiny bit better, silver plated is much cheaper though and similar performance increase. There's things that could be done to squeeze out a couple extra kv or more torque. Those windings don't look perfect either having a perfect wind on each pole can increase performance a lot more than you'd think, maybe someone can hand wind a motor haha.

[@lostphotographs3936]

oof the work to hand wind a motor for one of these. Brings up a good point. How about say using a slightly lighter gauge wire, but adding more turns. Like the old school RC motors you could purchase a say 10 turn single wire, or a 13 turn triple wire on the stator. 🤖 Each motor had its use cases, torque vs rotation speed. Were you racing a truck or buggy, 4w or 2wd, all the situations had an ideal motor for what you were doing. I need a shop with all the things, and more time on my hands. I envy Jeff and TFL way to do your homework gents.

[@scottomotive]

Saw that too. I guess time will tell!

[@c.daubz.5386]

“Big Problem” this is what Gt should have been to start, also needs standard 6” rim and ability for user replaceable battery & components for $2200 price, 👍👍video guys

[@redboyjan]

Regualr GT used is at a reasonable price now, so maybe a used GT-S next year is the move, if you have aftermarket parts to swap in?

[@c.daubz.5386]

@@redboyjan I don’t think couple hundred off a used GT that new costs thousands is much of a deal, this is all because it’s overpriced by FM to begin with, GT-s series should cost around $2000 have better range and user replaceable battery & components, $3200 insane‼️🤦‍♂️

[@redboyjan]

@@c.daubz.5386 agreed

[@IIISentorIII]

@@c.daubz.5386 I did buy a new Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon Expert!....Bike for 3500.- in Switzerland.

[@paulguy8779]

Hey a little trick for those gaskets that seem to grow when you take the cover off. Boil it in hot water and it will shrink back down to size. Its an old carburetor trick. Works like a charm.

[@TheFloatLife]

Great tip!

[@TheAnimeist]

21:14 "We'll fire these bad boys back in real quick" Love the edit. There were some other great screw related edits too. Like the extraction of all the screws.

[@inactive67]

To spendy for me, I would go EUC for 3k, I dont think I am going to buy another one wheel at this point I just crusie my XR but am a fat bastard so maybe float wheel ?!!? Was hoping you were gonna measure the voltage to see if they reveresed wires on the connectors or color codes Thanks for ripping it down!!

[@RTAMOTORSPORTS]

It's raining allot next week here in Sac... Thanks Jeff for saying it never rains... Jeez😅

[@mattdizzow5408]

The orange cable is because there is a STKY (Stuff That Kills You) situation due to the voltages.

[@MikeDIY]

Yeah, same coloring on high voltage cables in hybrids and EVs.

[@mattdizzow5408]

@@MikeDIYI bet they have some former Tesla engineers, the orange cabling and the wavy magnets are right out of there play book

[@Anonymous-xp7ze]

Y'all read my mind I was just looking for this type of video!

[@MasonH24]

Jeff gettin' funky with the calipers, huh? Sounds like a fun Thursday night! 🤣

[@MikeDIY]

Now that Bode is a pro rider for FM he’s to good for float life vids.

[@BillyShredder]

WOW. Good video friends.

[@sarnford]

Would love to know about water tightness and or where to Badger. Jeff and Robert videos are fun

[@df7242]

I would assume the same spots as before.

[@obiwan-wheel8113]

Are the rails anodized or still power coated? Wondering if the overheating is still gonna be an issue. Prolly gotta wait ‘til summer huh

[@TheFloatLife]

same as GT rails

[@chantal7]

Nice they fixed the obvious issues. Kinda not sure about that axle though? Thanks for sharing the guts of the GT-S with us! :)

[@h8GW]

Is it really fixed if FM still sells old boards with the old problems for the peasants?

[@mikehtiger]

I’d love to see if they did anything to mitigate the controller screws backing out and shorting the controller. Thread locker or similar.

[@MrDmadness]

A 0.001 cent ( yup that cheap ) pejce of teflon tape would do it

[@h8GW]

A dab from $3 bottle of Harbor Freight threadlock(enough for hundreds to thousands of fasteners) would fix the problem. And FM could buy that shit in bulk, so it'll be a dick move if they didn't start including it.

[@richcoastbrooks8601]

Pros and cons for each ? Cast and billet ? Besides price? Heat dissipation? Weight? Stronger material?

[@mattbaillargeon]

Can’t wait to turn @7:01 into a reaction gif 😂😂

[@TheFloatLife]

We'd be happy to do it for you in 6k if you need it

[@taffy4801]

​@@TheFloatLifeDo itttttttt I need a poster of hyperrealistic Jeff thumbs up in my dorm

[@mattbaillargeon]

@@TheFloatLifeyes please!!!

[@talbot_media]

so my question is what does the range do when you put a regular GT tire on it such as the slick or treaded?

[@BeelzeBob420]

TFL - Plz make an install video for the new B.A.N.G. bumpers for the Pint X. Chrz! 🤙

[@neknim]

How do the curved magnets improve performance?

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

Well done, but *next time* it would be great if you can explain many things about these parts about which many of us are unknowledgeable.

[@ThisMarv]

I don't know the specifics when it's required, but isn't it a regulation that the cable connected to the battery has to be that orange one? At least on EVs and similar that's a thing

[@neknim]

16:11, were you ever able to measure the diameter and confirm if they made the tolerances tigher?

[@TheFloatLife]

Same as GT

[@jaefrmbk2k]

Jon Stock of TheMobStop in his breakdown found that the GTS axle looked definitively thicker. to be fair, he didn't measure it, he was eyeballin the axle & o-ring

[@MrDmadness]

Yup, which is why tfl is a better video. Measuring something us always better than "yeah looks to me"

[@DJCheLu]

Sounds like i should transfer my float blocks and cold ones to the GTS?

[@SeanPaulNotTheSinger]

Considering they didn't address the issues that caused overheating or strengthening the axle... yup.

[@auden_builds]

Nice teardown

[@j.m.9684]

Please send me a link of where to buy the “Drill Bit” to unscrew the ‘Bummers & FootPad’???

[@fixmypev]

22:32 - Can confirm. No boobies. No traps. Loved the teardown, guys! 🤙🏼⚡️🛠️

[@TomWoodsAmp]

Any cable carrying voltage greater than 60V DC in automotive applications must be colored orange. Maybe they have to for PEVs or felt they should follow that safety guideline...

[@jimbobextremeC]

My motor cable on my gts is definitely longer than my gt. With float blocks its sagging.

[@TheBoardGarage]

Good stuff, very nice video. 👍

[@MasonH24]

The fact you guys were like "anything we do in here could brick the board" just makes it a no-go for me outright. Can't stand the anti-repair stance from these chuckle-fucks. Love that unicorn XR life.. Also love that FM is competing with where the market is going, even if I still won't be buying another FM board. FW / VESC is it, baby.

[@dezh2544]

Got to love the hype around FM boards 😎 Man do they know how to give us incredible work. Vesc folks, kneel to your new technology 😎

[@-JohnSmith-]

Nice $1,000 capacitors

[@MrDmadness]

Yeah and they pretty much need to be there to balance the load out

[@ONEWEELERS]

What’s you opinion on the s sieries

[@Alloutjose]

Will the sure start work on the GTS?

[@dannysong]

Can y'all please do an in-depth review of the charger plugs?

[@TheFloatLife]

The reviews are in! They charge your board!

[@dannysong]

Future Motion claims they can double as board game pieces. Is this true? @@TheFloatLife

[@TheFloatLife]

No comment

[@kodypierce3507]

a 1kw motor will equal to 1000rpm per volt, they didnt need to change the windings. if they did, adding windings adds kw/rpm so the top speed potential increases but windings dont effect torque. Torque is generally increased by stator thickness (bearing to bearing). Stator diameter would require additional windings and that only increases the motors top speed per input volt and doesnt effect torque. The last thing is increasing the wire guage for the windings tends to improve the motor quality in electric motors so that would be the best thing they could do.

[@travisharvey4439]

75v vesc must've been what you were rocking

[@lipasfriends]

Next next next vid = vescing the GTS

[@travisharvey4439]

That an iFix it kit?! 😂 I have that one too.

[@TheFloatLife]

One of the best!

[@rolfantonsson8297]

Lets go!! 🙂

[@jinkiescoob]

Dude, just release the video of the ADV powering past this thing already.

[@deanaoxo]

Jeff riding Robert like a dirt bike. Man oh man, to many videos to come, we need them now~!~Srsly though, you should think about sleeping, I hear Jeff has a kid now. . .

[@jinkiescoob]

“Careful, there might be a booby-trap under there…”

[@Fungineers]

Don't unplug anything😢 Diy guys real mad 😂

[@fromdonwithlove]

I needed a discount code 🥴

[@KaizenOz]

The price 😆

[@johanjotun1647]

600-900 dollars more will would buy an Apex or veteran Linx love having a onewheel but they've priced themselves out of the EV game

[@aeonicphoenix5618]

I ttok a shot very tjimem yuou adie subscibr jwongt slwlkwl nto

[@mattd2026]

I will buy one if my union does its fucking job

[@JmoneyLove77]

Hope that’s not your buddies onewheel!

[@stevenmcbride2776]

Weigh the motors

[@boolikethebear]

can i... by chance... get that... big ... dis... count... code......pls? :')

[@TheWillDConstruct]

I am disappointed

[@anousenic]

Dad? Is that you?

[@TheWillDConstruct]

Yes, son. But I was not talking about you, or TFL. @@anousenic

[@GUDBYE_92]

What a let down. I’d want my performance board to look better and have more noticeable upgrades.

[@matix10104]

I find it funny you are thanking them for stuff while also freaking out cuz your not sure what will brick your 3400$ board.....lol

[@TheFloatLife]

It's a love hate relationship

[@jayisdoingstuff]

def worth another 1k, right??

[@3tch3r]

Lol

[@natebohnhoff9520]

everyone kinda hates that guy.... theres always one.

[@welcometofpv2241]

3200 and it has the range of a pintx lol no

[@xenoir2295]

Where’s bohdi?

[@MichaelSosa-dz5tk]

Se fue

[@kbren1]

40% less torque than the Floatwheel ADV. 40% less power output than the FW ADV. Twice the $1800 price of the FW after tax & shipping. It's an INFERIOR product in every way except that it looks pretty. And you guys won't even release the comparison video you've already filmed to inform the community. What happened to the FloatLife we used to know?

[@416cubes4]

Can almost buy a sur ron for one deeze