Where did Onewheel put the upgrades?

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The Float Life

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Ever wonder what's inside the Onewheel GT-S or any Onewheel for that matter? In this video, Jeff (and Robert) take you through the in's and out's of what makes the Onewheel GT-S what it is. Wondering where Onewheel put the upgrades? Let these guys show you! Do you think the upgrades warrant the $3200 price tag of this board? Do you own one? Do you like it? Let us know your thoughts in the comments!
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@stanleyshaw7314
@stanleyshaw7314 10 ай бұрын
New onewheel release has me hyped, not for the board but the TFL reviews
@itsnotzura6859
@itsnotzura6859 10 ай бұрын
it's a good day when a TFL video drops
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Good days at least twice a week!
@sadanimal1950
@sadanimal1950 10 ай бұрын
More floatwheel vids!
@thirtythreeeyes8624
@thirtythreeeyes8624 10 ай бұрын
Mob shop was claiming a thicker axle and different o-rings all sorts of differences. Nice to see it measured with a caliper for proof it's the same. Also FPV quad motors have had curved magnets as the standard for years there's even motors running ring magnets or two rows of magnets with the top and bottom offset, lots of different things that can be done. Back when I was into rc cars some motors for them twist an angle into the stator for more torque I believe and silver wire instead of copper is a tiny bit better, silver plated is much cheaper though and similar performance increase. There's things that could be done to squeeze out a couple extra kv or more torque. Those windings don't look perfect either having a perfect wind on each pole can increase performance a lot more than you'd think, maybe someone can hand wind a motor haha.
@lostphotographs3936
@lostphotographs3936 10 ай бұрын
oof the work to hand wind a motor for one of these. Brings up a good point. How about say using a slightly lighter gauge wire, but adding more turns. Like the old school RC motors you could purchase a say 10 turn single wire, or a 13 turn triple wire on the stator. 🤖 Each motor had its use cases, torque vs rotation speed. Were you racing a truck or buggy, 4w or 2wd, all the situations had an ideal motor for what you were doing. I need a shop with all the things, and more time on my hands. I envy Jeff and TFL way to do your homework gents.
@scottomotive
@scottomotive 10 ай бұрын
Saw that too. I guess time will tell!
@Alex-ge6fo
@Alex-ge6fo 10 ай бұрын
GT-S sells for about 39% higher price than the GT. You guys know manufacturing costs, so I'm wondering what is your estimate of the % additional cost for FM to build the GT-S vs. GT? I suspect the profit margin is super-sized on the GT-S. Thanks for the thorough and objective review of the GT-S. TFL = Truth!
@0newheeldrives
@0newheeldrives 10 ай бұрын
Usually profit margin is about the same throughout a lineup of similar products. BUT, the profit contribution on a more expensive wheel will be higher, so it's worth having.
@mechwar31
@mechwar31 2 ай бұрын
Now that we're 8 months after release, we know a little bit more about the GTS and where the cost comes from. Yes, there is always going to be a profit margin, however they did use some higher quality parts in here that are expensive. The stronger magnets added a little more cost. The p45b cells came out only a little bit before the GTS did, they were expensive then and they are still expensive now. Probably the biggest cost hike is going to come from the SKF bearings. Yes, SKF has a reputation for making the best bearings in the world, however, for the application, I don't think you need SKF bearings and also the specific bearings they got are a questionable choice. The SKF bearings that FM is using have a single non-contacting seal. The GTS uses the same bearings that were used on the Plus, before switching over to the much cheaper C&U bearings.
@TheAnimeist
@TheAnimeist 10 ай бұрын
21:14 "We'll fire these bad boys back in real quick" Love the edit. There were some other great screw related edits too. Like the extraction of all the screws.
@c.daubz.5386
@c.daubz.5386 10 ай бұрын
“Big Problem” this is what Gt should have been to start, also needs standard 6” rim and ability for user replaceable battery & components for $2200 price, 👍👍video guys
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 10 ай бұрын
Regualr GT used is at a reasonable price now, so maybe a used GT-S next year is the move, if you have aftermarket parts to swap in?
@c.daubz.5386
@c.daubz.5386 10 ай бұрын
@@redboyjan I don’t think couple hundred off a used GT that new costs thousands is much of a deal, this is all because it’s overpriced by FM to begin with, GT-s series should cost around $2000 have better range and user replaceable battery & components, $3200 insane‼️🤦‍♂️
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 10 ай бұрын
@@c.daubz.5386 agreed
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 10 ай бұрын
@@c.daubz.5386 I did buy a new Specialized Stumpjumper Carbon Expert!....Bike for 3500.- in Switzerland.
@RTAMOTORSPORTS
@RTAMOTORSPORTS 10 ай бұрын
It's raining allot next week here in Sac... Thanks Jeff for saying it never rains... Jeez😅
@mattbaillargeon
@mattbaillargeon 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to turn @7:01 into a reaction gif 😂😂
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
We'd be happy to do it for you in 6k if you need it
@taffy4801
@taffy4801 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheFloatLifeDo itttttttt I need a poster of hyperrealistic Jeff thumbs up in my dorm
@mattbaillargeon
@mattbaillargeon 10 ай бұрын
@@TheFloatLifeyes please!!!
@Anonymous-xp7ze
@Anonymous-xp7ze 10 ай бұрын
Y'all read my mind I was just looking for this type of video!
@chantal7
@chantal7 10 ай бұрын
Nice they fixed the obvious issues. Kinda not sure about that axle though? Thanks for sharing the guts of the GT-S with us! :)
@h8GW
@h8GW 10 ай бұрын
Is it really fixed if FM still sells old boards with the old problems for the peasants?
@paulguy8779
@paulguy8779 10 ай бұрын
Hey a little trick for those gaskets that seem to grow when you take the cover off. Boil it in hot water and it will shrink back down to size. Its an old carburetor trick. Works like a charm.
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@mikehtiger
@mikehtiger 10 ай бұрын
I’d love to see if they did anything to mitigate the controller screws backing out and shorting the controller. Thread locker or similar.
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 10 ай бұрын
A 0.001 cent ( yup that cheap ) pejce of teflon tape would do it
@h8GW
@h8GW 10 ай бұрын
A dab from $3 bottle of Harbor Freight threadlock(enough for hundreds to thousands of fasteners) would fix the problem. And FM could buy that shit in bulk, so it'll be a dick move if they didn't start including it.
@sarnford
@sarnford 10 ай бұрын
Would love to know about water tightness and or where to Badger. Jeff and Robert videos are fun
@df7242
@df7242 10 ай бұрын
I would assume the same spots as before.
@richcoastbrooks8601
@richcoastbrooks8601 Ай бұрын
Pros and cons for each ? Cast and billet ? Besides price? Heat dissipation? Weight? Stronger material?
@neknim
@neknim 10 ай бұрын
How do the curved magnets improve performance?
@auden_builds
@auden_builds 10 ай бұрын
Nice teardown
@TheBoardGarage
@TheBoardGarage 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff, very nice video. 👍
@ThisMarv
@ThisMarv 10 ай бұрын
I don't know the specifics when it's required, but isn't it a regulation that the cable connected to the battery has to be that orange one? At least on EVs and similar that's a thing
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 9 ай бұрын
Well done, but *next time* it would be great if you can explain many things about these parts about which many of us are unknowledgeable.
@Alloutjose
@Alloutjose 10 ай бұрын
Will the sure start work on the GTS?
@ONEWEELERS
@ONEWEELERS 10 ай бұрын
What’s you opinion on the s sieries
@DJCheLu
@DJCheLu 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like i should transfer my float blocks and cold ones to the GTS?
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger 10 ай бұрын
Considering they didn't address the issues that caused overheating or strengthening the axle... yup.
@TomWoodsAmp
@TomWoodsAmp 10 ай бұрын
Any cable carrying voltage greater than 60V DC in automotive applications must be colored orange. Maybe they have to for PEVs or felt they should follow that safety guideline...
@jinkiescoob
@jinkiescoob 10 ай бұрын
Dude, just release the video of the ADV powering past this thing already.
@416cubes4
@416cubes4 10 ай бұрын
Can almost buy a sur ron for one deeze
@fromdonwithlove
@fromdonwithlove 10 ай бұрын
I needed a discount code 🥴
@Fungineers
@Fungineers 10 ай бұрын
Don't unplug anything😢 Diy guys real mad 😂
@KaizenOz
@KaizenOz 10 ай бұрын
The price 😆
@TheWillDConstruct
@TheWillDConstruct 10 ай бұрын
I am disappointed
@anousenic
@anousenic 10 ай бұрын
Dad? Is that you?
@TheWillDConstruct
@TheWillDConstruct 10 ай бұрын
Yes, son. But I was not talking about you, or TFL. @@anousenic
@boolikethebear
@boolikethebear 10 ай бұрын
can i... by chance... get that... big ... dis... count... code......pls? :')
@mattd2026
@mattd2026 10 ай бұрын
I will buy one if my union does its fucking job
@JmoneyLove77
@JmoneyLove77 10 ай бұрын
Hope that’s not your buddies onewheel!
@GUDBYE_92
@GUDBYE_92 10 ай бұрын
What a let down. I’d want my performance board to look better and have more noticeable upgrades.
@welcometofpv2241
@welcometofpv2241 5 ай бұрын
3200 and it has the range of a pintx lol no
@aeonicphoenix5618
@aeonicphoenix5618 10 ай бұрын
I ttok a shot very tjimem yuou adie subscibr jwongt slwlkwl nto
@natebohnhoff9520
@natebohnhoff9520 10 ай бұрын
everyone kinda hates that guy.... theres always one.
@quitwoozy5224
@quitwoozy5224 10 ай бұрын
def worth another 1k, right??
@3tch3r
@3tch3r 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@azzaahhYT
@azzaahhYT 10 ай бұрын
Reminder that an adv will cost you half of a gt-s while providing almost as much performance and more range
@benlay750
@benlay750 10 ай бұрын
Adv has a lot more performance than GTS .. tons more torque and similar top speed ... however it lacks important accessories like bangs and weighs a lot more. DIY is the best of both worlds. Superflux is faster and has a lot more torque than GTS.
@azzaahhYT
@azzaahhYT 10 ай бұрын
@@benlay750 it does not weigh "alot more" a few pounts max. and given the range i'd say that fair. do some reps with your board. I do agree that DIY is the best. I recently sold my GT and will be getting an adv, super hyped. 3200.00 is just an insane price that i cannot justify. But if free motion is so confident in their product then they should let DIY and adv users compete in their races, but we both know they wont.
@wanheda9273
@wanheda9273 10 ай бұрын
@@azzaahhYTyou’re right it’s not a lot more it’s a ton for people doing tricks. Presumably just like your statement.
@azzaahhYT
@azzaahhYT 10 ай бұрын
@@wanheda9273 oh please if you really wanted to do tricks you'd be using a pint-x, every other board is too heavy. The fact is most riders like to cruise and the adv is better in cost, performance and customization.
@wanheda9273
@wanheda9273 10 ай бұрын
@@azzaahhYT fair point but the pintx isn’t as powerful or versatile, people still do tricks on the GT and with s-series being 2lbs lighter that will only make it easier. Adv is better in different aspects but not customization. Accessories out weigh the probably complicated for most and minor software tweaks that can be made. There are riding profiles on OWs for a reason and with custom shaping 3.0 I really couldn’t ask for access to change much more. I do agree 3200 is a ridiculous price. I don’t think they expected the board to appeal to a wide enough audience to bring down their margin. I think if it was even a few hundred dollars cheaper they would be surprised on the sales.
@floatwheel
@floatwheel 10 ай бұрын
lol, they copied us by using DIP cap and toll mosfet!, LC connector are nice touch though, finally some tasteful part choice
@-JohnSmith-
@-JohnSmith- 10 ай бұрын
They released this because of the Floatwheel, people have mentioned all the problems with the past one wheels in the comments on their social media they don't delete them as soon as you mention Floatwheel you're banned from commenting, only I can see my comments now
@floatwheel
@floatwheel 10 ай бұрын
@@-JohnSmith- understandable
@Broderickk
@Broderickk 10 ай бұрын
I mean… you copied their whole board. 😂
@floatwheel
@floatwheel 10 ай бұрын
@@Broderickk I mean how, there's not a single part that's the same with any onewheel
@frudthespud
@frudthespud 10 ай бұрын
​@@floatwheel you guys rock! My ADV pro is a beast, my first onewheel style board and I'm loving it :)
@TBrady
@TBrady 10 ай бұрын
Very smart FM, drop the new board going into winter so over heating issues won't surface untill they are out of warranty
@landonlove4101
@landonlove4101 10 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh 😭😭 you’re not wrong
@stephenhruby8763
@stephenhruby8763 10 ай бұрын
Truth. Also right before the holidays/black friday when they can shave a couple hundred dollars off to get those "sales."
@dezh2544
@dezh2544 10 ай бұрын
A year from now is past next summer……..
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 10 ай бұрын
@@dezh2544 Every Sixty Seconds A Minute Passes In my Country...
@-JohnSmith-
@-JohnSmith- 10 ай бұрын
Nice $1,000 capacitors
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and they pretty much need to be there to balance the load out
@inactive67
@inactive67 10 ай бұрын
To spendy for me, I would go EUC for 3k, I dont think I am going to buy another one wheel at this point I just crusie my XR but am a fat bastard so maybe float wheel ?!!? Was hoping you were gonna measure the voltage to see if they reveresed wires on the connectors or color codes Thanks for ripping it down!!
@mattdizzow5408
@mattdizzow5408 10 ай бұрын
The orange cable is because there is a STKY (Stuff That Kills You) situation due to the voltages.
@MikeDIY
@MikeDIY 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, same coloring on high voltage cables in hybrids and EVs.
@mattdizzow5408
@mattdizzow5408 10 ай бұрын
@@MikeDIYI bet they have some former Tesla engineers, the orange cabling and the wavy magnets are right out of there play book
@obiwan-wheel8113
@obiwan-wheel8113 10 ай бұрын
Are the rails anodized or still power coated? Wondering if the overheating is still gonna be an issue. Prolly gotta wait ‘til summer huh
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
same as GT rails
@BillyShredder
@BillyShredder 10 ай бұрын
WOW. Good video friends.
@jaefrmbk2k
@jaefrmbk2k 10 ай бұрын
Jon Stock of TheMobStop in his breakdown found that the GTS axle looked definitively thicker. to be fair, he didn't measure it, he was eyeballin the axle & o-ring
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness 10 ай бұрын
Yup, which is why tfl is a better video. Measuring something us always better than "yeah looks to me"
@MikeDIY
@MikeDIY 10 ай бұрын
Now that Bode is a pro rider for FM he’s to good for float life vids.
@jimbobextremeC
@jimbobextremeC 10 ай бұрын
My motor cable on my gts is definitely longer than my gt. With float blocks its sagging.
@talbot_media
@talbot_media 9 ай бұрын
so my question is what does the range do when you put a regular GT tire on it such as the slick or treaded?
@stevenmcbride2776
@stevenmcbride2776 10 ай бұрын
Weigh the motors
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger
@SeanPaulNotTheSinger 10 ай бұрын
Being a full-time kilt wearer, fenders are almost a must. No one wants road salsa tossed up there. Cool seeing a teardown with actual measurements, not just eyeball comparisons. While I like seeing the simple fixes they implemented, I'm disappointed they haven't done anything (apparent) to address the axle weaknesses and heat dissipation issues. Thanks for the continuation of your "Get to know the GT-S" video series.
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 10 ай бұрын
FM's "constant evolution" they talk about. Not
@fixmypev
@fixmypev 10 ай бұрын
22:32 - Can confirm. No boobies. No traps. Loved the teardown, guys! 🤙🏼⚡️🛠️
@neknim
@neknim 10 ай бұрын
16:11, were you ever able to measure the diameter and confirm if they made the tolerances tigher?
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
Same as GT
@kodypierce3507
@kodypierce3507 10 ай бұрын
a 1kw motor will equal to 1000rpm per volt, they didnt need to change the windings. if they did, adding windings adds kw/rpm so the top speed potential increases but windings dont effect torque. Torque is generally increased by stator thickness (bearing to bearing). Stator diameter would require additional windings and that only increases the motors top speed per input volt and doesnt effect torque. The last thing is increasing the wire guage for the windings tends to improve the motor quality in electric motors so that would be the best thing they could do.
@j.m.9684
@j.m.9684 10 ай бұрын
Please send me a link of where to buy the “Drill Bit” to unscrew the ‘Bummers & FootPad’???
@BeelzeBob420
@BeelzeBob420 10 ай бұрын
TFL - Plz make an install video for the new B.A.N.G. bumpers for the Pint X. Chrz! 🤙
@MasonH24
@MasonH24 10 ай бұрын
Jeff gettin' funky with the calipers, huh? Sounds like a fun Thursday night! 🤣
@jinkiescoob
@jinkiescoob 10 ай бұрын
“Careful, there might be a booby-trap under there…”
@lipasfriends
@lipasfriends 10 ай бұрын
Next next next vid = vescing the GTS
@travisharvey4439
@travisharvey4439 10 ай бұрын
75v vesc must've been what you were rocking
@rolfantonsson8297
@rolfantonsson8297 10 ай бұрын
Lets go!! 🙂
@MasonH24
@MasonH24 10 ай бұрын
The fact you guys were like "anything we do in here could brick the board" just makes it a no-go for me outright. Can't stand the anti-repair stance from these chuckle-fucks. Love that unicorn XR life.. Also love that FM is competing with where the market is going, even if I still won't be buying another FM board. FW / VESC is it, baby.
@matix10104
@matix10104 10 ай бұрын
I find it funny you are thanking them for stuff while also freaking out cuz your not sure what will brick your 3400$ board.....lol
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
It's a love hate relationship
@travisharvey4439
@travisharvey4439 10 ай бұрын
That an iFix it kit?! 😂 I have that one too.
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
One of the best!
@dannysong
@dannysong 10 ай бұрын
Can y'all please do an in-depth review of the charger plugs?
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
The reviews are in! They charge your board!
@dannysong
@dannysong 10 ай бұрын
Future Motion claims they can double as board game pieces. Is this true? @@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife
@TheFloatLife 10 ай бұрын
No comment
@dezh2544
@dezh2544 10 ай бұрын
Got to love the hype around FM boards 😎 Man do they know how to give us incredible work. Vesc folks, kneel to your new technology 😎
@kbren1
@kbren1 10 ай бұрын
40% less torque than the Floatwheel ADV. 40% less power output than the FW ADV. Twice the $1800 price of the FW after tax & shipping. It's an INFERIOR product in every way except that it looks pretty. And you guys won't even release the comparison video you've already filmed to inform the community. What happened to the FloatLife we used to know?
@deanaoxo
@deanaoxo 10 ай бұрын
Jeff riding Robert like a dirt bike. Man oh man, to many videos to come, we need them now~!~Srsly though, you should think about sleeping, I hear Jeff has a kid now. . .
@xenoir2295
@xenoir2295 10 ай бұрын
Where’s bohdi?
@MichaelSosa-dz5tk
@MichaelSosa-dz5tk 10 ай бұрын
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