Metroid Other M Critique

[@richardthelionheart8656]

Other M explains that the Space Pirates turn into mindless animals without mother brain. So how did they rebuild her in the first place?

[@eclipse._xiv]

That's stupid, because the Pirates have a whole civilization as seen in Prime 2 and 3.

[@richardthelionheart8656]

dragongirl66 Well Sakamoto doesn't consider them canon because he doesn't want the Prime lore to affect his games. The funniest part is that Other M contradicts pretty much every game in the series, even the ones Sakamoto directed. For example in Fusion, a game directed by Sakamoto, it's directly stated that Samus' suit is purely mechanical and must be removed surgically if Samus herself is knocked unconcious. But then in Other M the complete opposite is true and Samus' armour vanishes whenever he gets hit too hard. Basically Sakamoto's a moron.

[@eclipse._xiv]

Richard The Lionheart True. Sakamoto has made some good games, but the problem with him is that he will do anything with the timeline to make his game fir, even if it screws up everything.

[@samusaran9949]

@@richardthelionheart8656 and nentendo DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SAKAMOTO'S STATEMENT ABOUT THE PRIME GAMES(it's a miracle), because they made an evolved version of meta ridley the final boss in samus returns

[@Canalbiruta]

@@eclipse._xiv sakamoto might be the case of the guy with good ideas, that can't think through them, and needs guidance. He wasn't the creator of the series, neither the only who used to guide thinks in the series until other m.

[@benjamintyus6957]

This game would have been so much better if Peppy from Star Fox replaced Adam in the control room "Samus, use the boost to get through!" "Activate power bombs!" "Be careful it's a trap!" "Do a barrel roll!

[@robertkovarna8294]

You mean "Use the boost ball to get through!" "Use Power bombs wisely!" "Never give up! Trust your instincts!"

[@gregzotter6189]

@@robertkovarna8294 I'd like that more than what we got.

[@Mr.Faust3]

“Your just like your father samus”

[@courdell7426]

I love this so much

[@Gurpwnder]

I don't understand why Samus is so weak in this game. While wearing the Varia suit, she is rendered unconscious by a single shot form a Galactic federation gun? Is her suit made out of tin foil now? This raises a second question. Why did Adam have to SHOOT Samus? What's wrong with a simple "Halt, soldier!" or "Halt, lady!"

[@Gurpwnder]

1) Samus' suit is designed to protect her from danger. 2) Samus was investigating an unknown ship. As the greatest bounty hunter, and as someone who has investigated many unknown planets and environments, I find it hard to assume that she was lollygagging off guard. 3) Let's assume that the Galactic Federation gun was really powerful (enough to drain all of Samus' energy tanks in one hit - a feat that enemies and bosses trying to KILL Samus cannot achieve), why would Adam shoot her with that much force? Why would he not just order her to halt?

[@PaperFlare]

Pedro Burset Jesus Christ, do you hear what you're fucking arguing? "Samus' suit doesn't protect from surprise attacks, and, in fact, drains away completely to any ambush attacks." That's the kind of effect you find on a cursed suit on armor in Dungeons and Dragons, designed to troll the shit out of players, not the equipment of a Bounty Hunter who has fought her way through countless hordes across dozens of planets.

[@Gurpwnder]

C'mon now, let's not get angry at the man, otherwise we won't be able to get our points across.

[@Gurpwnder]

Pedro Burset Then what about Super Metroid, where the baby Metroid was kidnapped right before her eyes? She could take multiple shots to the back in previous games. What about Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, where she had to personally kill her own partners: Ghor, Gandrayda and Rundas? Her suit didn't randomly flicker on / off then either. The problem is, at this point in the Metroid timeline, can we expect Samus to be so emotionally fragile? Hell, instead of listening to me, the Gaming Britt goes over this himself in this very video.

[@PaperFlare]

Pedro Burset What is the point, o' enlightened one? Let's ignore all the flaws with the game's story. Let's ignore the weird choice of making Samus' suit a hologram that somehow morphs out of the Zero Suit. Let's ignore the fact that a shitty GF standard issue laser pistol is able to take out Chozo tech in one shit. Let's just look at the one scene. Adam, a man that Samus time and time again has proven to be unwaveringly loyal too, despite the fact that he has made decision she disagrees with. She willingly followed his "don't do shit unless I say so," despite the fact that this brought her to harm in a lava filled death-hole because he didn't specify to turn on Varia functions. She has time and time again proven that she trusts him above reason and logic, and would do what he says at the drop of a pin. So what does he do? He shoots her in the back the second she is about to try to do something on her own. At this point, he knows she would stop if he said so. He knows she would stand by if he gave her a direct order. But no. HE FUCKING SHOT HER IN THE BACK. What kind of planet do you live on where such an action is considered okay under ANY circumstance. I don't stop you from burning your fingers on the stove by lopping your hand off - don't worry, we can reattach it later. ~~~~ I would say that this scene proves that Adam is a misogynist, but you know what, it really doesn't. Throughout the entire game, Adam has made the absolute worst possible choices known to man. He splits his team of six individuals up to search, alone, entire sectors to find out what killed EVERY LIVING PERSON ABOARD THE SHIP. When we find out there's a traitor, he continues to let his men continue to search, alone, allowing for the traitor to be more efficient at his deception than if he was forced to work with a teammate. He refuses to allow Samus, the most trustworthy person on the ship, basic freedoms to make her part of the mission more successful, and routinely limits usage of equipment to not only Samus, but his own men, oftentimes endangering the lives of all in the process. He's not a misogynist, he's a fucking idiot who deserves no respect from any human alive, let alone the woman who single handedly took down the Space Pirate threat multiple times, and (almost) killed every Metroid alive. Part of the problem of the game is that we're TOLD what to feel, never shown. We keep getting hammered over the head that Adam is the greatest tactical genius known to man. That he's a nice, kind-hearted person. Not once are we actually shown these traits, and this dissonance is part of what makes this game such a travesty to have to deal with.

[@windywave7271]

Am I the only one who thought that samus' armor looked terrible in this game? Especially compared to the prime games?

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

I too think so. It lacks weight and almost looks like a beefed up morph suit, while sporting a pastry bag instead of a cannon.

[@rainquarm]

windy wave yahtzee does , if intenet celebrities mean anything to you

[@LukeMM95]

windy wave If you watch GamingBrit's "3D Metroid Dissection" video, he makes the same complaint.

[@datdamnmegabusta5604]

It's my favorite look for the complete Power Suit. :[ However, my favorite version has to undoubtedly be the original nekked Power Suit. I love its sleeker, more foreign design.

[@northwindkey]

If it had those proportions, but was actually the regular Power Suit, I would get it. But even in the classics, the Varia beefed up the suit considerably. I think Prime 2 had the best designs though.

[@kalebh3419]

The characterization of Samus in Other M was just downright sad, they turned her into a generic anime chick who makes dramatic observations and unrealistic emotional reactions. Though an important point to maintain is that simply having emotions and displaying them is NOT inherently a bad thing, human beings are emotional entities so therefore being completely devoid of them would be dehumanizing. But like GamingBrit pointed out, her emotional breakdowns were completely out of character and unrealistic, Samus would NOT have frozen in fear at the sight of Ridley, especially after battling him before and battling much more disturbing things in the past, and she certainly wouldn't have cringe worthy dialogue you would find in a $5 shoujo manga either.

[@linkzellda]

*Kaleb H* Like you think you can do a better job! XD At least she has a personality in this game unlike the other games where she has zero personality.

[@treefingers6572]

@@linkzellda did you read anywhere past literally the first two sentences this guy wrote? He explained exactly why your... "rebuttal" isn't adding anything to the conversation.

[@linkzellda]

@@treefingers6572 All I read is more bullshit from you people which it doesn't surprise me since you haters are so arrogant and fool of yourself that all you idiots are doing is spitting bullshit.

[@jage6344]

@@linkzellda this game is shit. you cant really change that, just like how sonic 06 is shit, other m is too, its a bad metroid game, and is a disgrace to the series. also its hard to understand what youre saying when your gamrmaammar is also dog shit. work on it a little.

[@gumfireparalax1371]

@@linkzellda Samus has plenty of personality in the other games, especially in the Prime Trilogy, because of how emotive she was in cutscenes. You don't need to have dialogue and overdramatic monologues to show emotion. You clearly didn't even read his original comment, because he said that Samus having actual dialogue and more overt emotion is not a bad thing, but this game just doesn't do it well. Samus has always had personality, but this game retcons literally every piece of Metroid material, even the manga that it claims to be based off of.

[@Blurns]

When Retro Studios writes Metroid games the Galactic Federation is the Federation from Star Trek, when Sakamoto writes Metroid games the Galactic Federation is Weyland-Yutani.

[@wizkidextrordinare]

Blurns In te original story before prime messed it up it kind of ends with Samus being fed up with the federation and she realizes that she's going to become an enemy of the federation and may even have to take them out one day.

[@Blurns]

Johnny Vulture The Prime games didn't mess anything up if you follow the timeline properly. Other M contradicts Fusion & they both contradict the Official Manga far more than the entire Prime trilogy contradicts the rest of the series. I think that's part of the reason Prime is liked as much as it is, it's pretty consistent story-wise.

[@wizkidextrordinare]

Blurns How does it contradict fusion?

[@AlaLoupeQC]

Johnny Vulture Oh I don't know... The revelation of Nightmare is no longer a surprise... The idea of cloning the Metroids for bioweapons is no longer a surprise... Galactic Federation being evil is no longer a surprise... Do we need to say more?

[@AlaLoupeQC]

howdareyou66 And when she was in statis at the beginning of Prime 3, it's like if there was something in her basic suit that would allow Samus to activate the suit but only she's conscious. She has no problem removing the helmet physically or with "magic" if she feels sick. Man, the Samus from Other M would easily die on Phaaze...

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Ironically, Team Ninja wasn't responsible for the bad parts of Other M. The shitty unplayable control scheme was demanded by Sakamoto (Team Ninja objected to it). And Sakamoto was responsible for the bad story.

[@manzanito3652]

Sakamoto is the japanese George Lucas XD

[@dragonphoreal]

I am betting that Sakamoto pushed for said control scheme because of "#innovation".... Nintendo really did have a bad case of George-Lucitis during most of the Wii era.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

That's exactly what he did. At some point, he acknowledged the problems with the control scheme but refused to change it, saying that doing so would mean "admitting he was wrong". He actually said that.

[@BlindBosnian]

Akaihiryuu77 Holy fuck,that's low.I feel bad for Metroid fans

[@linkzellda]

*Akaihiryuu77* Metroid Other M isn't that bad it just idiot Metroid fans be toxic like the StarWars fans.

[@chasingarumour]

They just ruined her character in Other M... I mean how cool was each of the finales in the Prime Trilogy?! Prime, she takes off her helmet and watches over the exploding Impact Crater. Prime 2, she jumps through a portal when being chased by a deadly race trying to escape an exploding planet, and casually waves goodbye to a race of sentient beings she saved. Prime 3, she escapes an exploding planet of pure phazon she singlehandedly destroyed to save the Galaxy and again casually waves at the federation while flying past. She seemed so chill, epic and prominent.

[@andyenglish4303]

+Conor Lynagh I know this is from four months ago but I just finished Metroid Prime 3 again tonight and yeah, the ending for it is nicely understated. Plus then she shits on a Skytown platform and reflects on the other Hunters that were corrupted and how she had to kill them. That was more and better characterization of Samus and her humanity without a single word than in the entirety of Other M.

[@andyenglish4303]

+Conor Lynagh ...SITS... SITS on a Skytown platform, my god.

[@nicholasc3905]

LOL

[@nicholasc3905]

Well, I normally reflect whilst I’m shitting

[@Scanvas3]

@@andyenglish4303 lol shitting and reflecting haha XDD. (yes I know its sits it just sounds funny XD)

[@LOLDUDE641]

WHY did they decide to give the marines traditionally-held guns? Anything that could shoot projectiles in Metroid games never use traditionally-held guns... they'd always have an arm cannon or some orifice that could shoot lasers and stuff. That's something that made the Metroid universe a bit more interesting, but now they just went and eliminated that.

[@extragirth64]

WHY does Samus ride around in a space ship that looks like her face (helmet) yet not have a interesting personality to fit? Instead of choosing the weak-boring-cliche-anime girl personality Sakamoto should have made Samus a quirky almost-insane anime girl personality. However for Metroid, anything anime would have been a terrible idea. My idea is just a (slightly) lesser of two evils.

[@extragirth64]

***** Why? Is it because you are letting Other M influence your perception of Samus? That was probably the worst depiction of a character that I have ever witnessed. Her ship is obviously a custom design, she made it look like her helmet and that's freaking hilarious. Any idea that you have on what Samus is like is either non-existent or wrong. This is just what I get from the games. You having a problem with it is a pretty good indication that it's a horrible idea to go into Samus' personality traits. Metroid is a video game, we are playing Samus. A video game intruding on what Samus is thinking and feeling is insulting because *we* are playing as that character. Metroid was a successful video game, not a successful manga.

[@extragirth64]

***** Don't you remember the end of the original Metroid? The reveal that there was a woman under the suit, not a guy. That wasn't a sexy reveal, she's messing with us. There's no denying it, this woman has a sense of humor and it defines her more than any other trait people made up for her, i.e., things outside of the video games. I don't know what you are talking about how _"... on paper Samus' characterization doesn't sound all that terrible."_ What was Other M trying to show and how did they fail in executing it? I thought they did a good job at executing a character for Samus that doesn't follow the games in any way.

[@extragirth64]

***** The funny thing is that we never saw Samus be a actual bounty hunter. Retro planned out Metroid Prime 3 to be the game where Samus accepts missions and bounties while travelling to other planets but Sakamoto kept them from making that game. I assumed it would have been too awesome. That's the story of the Metroid Prime games, Retro was never allowed to make even the slightest decision in their games because Sakamoto is a dick who doesn't know what is good for Metroid. Sakamoto doesn't even know what a bounty hunter is and just portrays Samus as a super hero. _"No, Samus doesn't do things for money. She's not a whore."_ What a f*cking idiot. Thank god he doesn't work on Metroid anymore. Yes I am aware the developers were messing with us at the end of Metroid but they did it through Samus. Everything that Samus does is through the developers, I guess we can't decipher what Samus' personality is because the developers did it. *Derpy-dooo!!*

[@LOLDUDE641]

***** I meant it more in the sense of the guns being HELD like traditional guns, with actual handles and stocks, as opposed to the usual Metroid style of guns where they are normally arm cannons.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

The action seemed good from what I've seen, but the main focus definitely should have been exploration. The Prime series was a great example of how atmosphere makes a science fiction series work. I wouldn't mind seeing another one of those.

[@davidtestone1936]

the one good thing about the game is that it actually tried something new, yet still old, hence the 3D sidescrolling with firstperson views and also turning different directions. its not like the entire shooter franchise, which is all about guns guns melee instakills and more guns. even though it failed to execute it well enough, it still had the guts to try something new.

[@DigitalGame18]

David Testone Not really, as you yourself stated this game tried to blend new elements with old ones but the problems with that is none of the elements in this game ARE new to the series, in fact depending on how you view them they have either been done before or far better even in other Metroid games. And considering how heavily this game tries to emulate the feeling of the 2d games I'd really call it a stretch to say that this game actually did try something new.

[@davidtestone1936]

well, at least the graphics are nice.....or, nice enough....

[@davidtestone1936]

at least Fusion was a great combination of story and gameplay, unlike other M where it was less gameplay and more flashbacks than every game in the metroid series.

[@jokerguts3673]

David Testone what people didnt realize the game was based off the manga from the looks of it you haven't read it so yeah Nintendo had to do those flashbacks

[@seroccoprime2774]

The Metroid that died in Super was legitimately a sad moment, especially after she was saved by it from Mother Brain. Except did she cry? Did she break down emotionally? Was she ever, at one point, psychologically scarred from it? No, she got right up, and fucking REKT Mother Brain, no ands, ifs, or buts. And as soon as you fuck THAT up, you've fucked up the entire rest of her character and the entire rest of the game, because if you can't get THAT basic fact of her character down, you won't get anything else down.

[@wizkidextrordinare]

Anthony Serocco The things is that we don't know what Samus was feeling and we don't know how she felt afterward.The original creator of MEtroid made Other M so you can tell he always wanted Samus' story to be tragic and heart breaking to her. The way you make it out to be Samus might as well be an emotionless robot. She had emotion as in she felt bad for the baby metroid and allowed it to live.

[@Keanotix]

Johnny Vulture The thing is, we DO know how she feels at that point, because YOU feel what she feels at that point. And unless you are emotionaly dead, you feel sadness, anger, and shortly after you get to act out righteous fury. Its an epic moment that is better conveyed in one sequence. The problem here is that the creator underestimated the power of conveyance. And Team Ninja has never had to do narrative in that style either. Do we know how she was afterwards? Yes, a sense of accomplishment but a tang of regret. But this implied emotional trauma is overplayed for the sake of a poor narrative. Frankly if she got emotionally scarred by that then she would have went doolally from half the other horrible creatures she has fought over the years (even if you DONT count Prime), I mean, SR388 man. (which they never bother to mention btw).

[@wizkidextrordinare]

Keanotix You make it seem as if it has to be conveyed in a subtle way rather than do like what other m did and try to centralize the emotions in a way that they are 100% understood. Don't give me that bull shit, when you see Mario kill bowser what is conveyed, nothing because the sprite totally lacks emotion. The same way when Link completes a task or a boss we don't what he feels or what he's thinking, we can assume but you will never know. In windwaker we get an idea of how link feels because his face is so expressive, but in Metroid their is no way anyone can know what samus is thinking because she's wearing a helmet which means her facial expressions are non existent. Now I mentioned how stone faced Link is in ocarina of time and how we really don't know how he feels in the game because his face is so stiff. We can assume that Link is a stone cold killer and straight badass because his face is always so calm even when he's near death. Until we got Gamecube era zelda games we start to see link show exhaustion and fear in his face indicating that Link has always been a character full of emotion and fears and he shows relief and has care in his eyes, but we couldn't see that because the sprites are so unexpressive and so where the 3D models in the 64 era where link only had 3 facial expressions mapped to his textures. So we can see Link was always meant to be a character that is fully expressive. We can assume Samus was supposed to be the same way, having fear, knowing love and companionship. Like in super metroid when Samus fights mother brain she litterally falls down on the ground and starts shaking before she is saved by the baby metroid as she is taking her final breathes, she has just realized she is beat and can't go on and she trembles as she come to the conclusion that she is about to die, and I say this because the sprite animation is only present for that scene. WE can see Samus as not a hyper badass character that would fight to the end but one with flaws and fears, samus literally stops and just stares at the mother brain even after the metroid comes in to save Samus she's still in shock from coming so close to losing her life. Go watch the end of Super Metroid it's actually powerful how human Samus is, once the metroid is killed samus goes into rage mode and beasts the mother brain. In fusion samus shows fear in the SA-X as everytime you meet it you have to run like hell to get away from it. The original creator always wanted Samus to have fears and stress she even monologues a little about it in fusion. Prime is the series that made samus into a stale robot of a personality.

[@Keanotix]

1. Zelda on N64 had characters with facial expressions before the Gamecube. 2. Even then emotional responses or feelings can be translated through other means apart from facial expressions. 3. Running from the SA-X wasnt because she was simply scared, it was trying to kill her. Any battle-hardened warrior would flee from a stronger enemy unless they had a death wish. 4. Samus falls to mother brain because she got blasted by a big fucking energy beam over and over again. She's was dying. That wasnt out of fear. The first time you are blasted you can bash buttons to try getting back up. An action you participate in, determined not to lose or at least not die on your knees. Thats emotional response through action right there. Do we need a speech bubble to explain that better? No, it's pretty easy to read. Basically if you need monologue to explain to you how a character is feeling then metroid is so not the series you should be aiming for. If any world building or character building can only be done through monologue and text dumps then I'm sorry, but ya done goofed on your design for a game. By all means, explain the finer details, but dont just explain EVERYTHING. Metroid is about exploration and discovery in a hostile enviroment. Prime does this way better than Other M. It also shows better and more consistent emotional responses from Samus than Other M wishes it did.

[@wizkidextrordinare]

Keanotix 1. Link had a blank stare expression, a surprised expression, an angry expression and a hurt expression. That's it. 2. There are no ques from Samus on how she feels except sprite animations. 3. No at first Samus is told that she must stay away from the SA-X because it has ice powers which will harm her. The SA-X does not kill Samus because it needs Samus to open up the locks so it can destroy the Metroids. SA-X is using Samus. What happens once all the locks are opened? SA-X finally starts hunting Samus and your only option is to flee, Samus is reduced to a a small animal while the SA-X is the predator. Samus actually never defeats the SA-X and is reduced to near death yet again and need assistance from a biological entity. The only reason Samus is alive is because the SA-X was using her the entire time. The SA-X needs to defeat the evolved Metroid so it fuses with Samus in order to do this. Samus even shows regret that her and the federation will most likely come to battle because she can't condone what they did on that base. All the while the main thing that keeps Samus moving is what? Adam Malcovich. She's relying on him to help her move forward, do you want to know why, because Samus has never faced that threat before, the space pirates Samus fought prior with the help of the federation. She had security in fighting them because she has done it before and she was raised on planet Zebes. That is where her strength comes from, in confidence in her knowledge of her enemy and her surroundings. 4. Samus is literally shaking and that moment is the only moment where that sprite is used except when Samus is about to be killed by the baby Metroid and it decides to let her live. Why have Samus shake in desperation, if she was on the brink of death why not just make her collapse and have the Metroid revive her? They wanted to show Samus' helplessness, she is fully conscious of her impending doom. If she has enough strength to breathe and hold herself up she should have enough energy to keep fighting but she doesn't. You say the game allows you to get back up, so the game mechanics allow you to participate so we must take this into account. The games mechanics allows you to move perfectly fine at low energy, but when you are fighting mother brain Samus stops moving when she drops to about 50% of her last health bar. All throughout the game we can play with Samus below 50% of the health bar perfectly fine without Samus falling to the ground and needing assistance from the player to get up. It's because Samus has realized she's running out of energy and one more hit from the blast is going to kill her and there is nothing she can do to stop it. Why else would Samus drop to her knees at that low of percentage when she is never seen to do this in the entire game until that point, and why else would they make a specific sprite for that moment? The most important thing to take away from this is that Samus doesn't kill mother brain at the end because of the mission she does it because of the last attempt of the Metroid to save her and that final cry it gave that stops all sound so you can focus on the sound of the Metroid dying. I'm not saying we need narrative to convey the story but if people misconstrue the Metroid story like you have than maybe we do.

[@gojibbq]

Adam's relationship with Samus is disgustingly abusive; the fact that it's heavily romanticized and constantly justified by Samus needing to "repent" and Adam being a "hero" is even more disgusting. Not only that--it makes it impossible for me to like Adam in Fusion unless I shut this abomination off from the timeline.

[@dimsumboy22]

shut up sjw

[@johnleonard9102]

Adam is Sakamoto's self-insert; he made this game like this to give Retro Studios and the Prime games a giant middle finger, and to show that he is the true boss of Metroid and Samus. And look how that turned out; he hasn't been a director of development for a game ever since.

[@robotx9285]

​@John Leonard Dude literally killed metriod for a good half of a decade because of his ego. Holy crap.

[@KaoticReach1999]

Wow terms like "abusive" were starting to be watered down earlier than I thought. No, he's just a poorly written character that thinks he outranks the bounty hunter that's saved the federation countless times.

[@BlueDemonofFire]

I stopped playing the game around the point where Adam shot Samus..and Samus didn't have more of a problem with it. Seriously? The entire story felt like a poorly done Resident Evil 1 in space..and considering that game isn't known for its stellar writing. Stuck in an abandoned research station where various horrors are now causing all kinds of hell. A supposedly elite team being easily split up and torn to shreds. An unknown traitor in the squad..and since Wesker in Resident Evil was the captain, I was almost looking forward to killing the bastard myself. The game had already shown it didn't give a damn about continuity, and it felt reasonably built up..and instead, I'm supposed to care that he's going to sacrifice himself? No! I wanted to shove that cannon down his throat and blow a massive load of explosives all over his insides, leaving him rather fragmented after. Sorry about the long comment..was introduced to the Metroid series via Prime, looked into all the previous games after that, was pretty hyped by Other M, and really, really wanted to find some good points, something to say that Nintendo wouldn't just abandon one of the greatest female characters in gaming history. However, my bloody patience just couldn't handle it, and when I finally stopped playing the game, I just boxed up my Nintendo Wii and all the games for it and let it lay forgotten in a random corner of my parent's house.

[@MasterKnightDH]

Other M and Brawl are both farces, but that doesn't mean the Wii doesn't have good games like Battalion Wars 2. I will agree, though, that it makes NO sense for A-Dumb to shoot Shame-Us out of the blue.

[@AnimatedCarl]

You stopped playing the game at the end of the game?

[@BenandJery]

Gotta love it how that since people can't really counter your arguments, they resort to saying "Wut u hate dis game cuz of the story?????? WTF is wrong wit u! We dont play games 4 story!!!!!" Despite the fact that 2 hours of this game's 2.5 hours of playtime is all cutscenes.

[@samusaran9949]

look everyone, it's a nine year old that only plays online games correction:only played cod and fortnite

[@samusaran9949]

I swear to god I remember commenting to someone saying something like "no one plays the game for the story" or someone like that. I want to clarify that I am not criticizing Gamer Crab's comment. I very much agree with it.

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

Other M fans believe Metroid: Other M is a great game. After several cycles of playing it, I believe Other M fans have vapor for brains.

[@mag1011]

Scruffy Goatspider Upvoted for use of an obscure meme.

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

Thank goodness some people still remember that.

[@Percythegamer]

After 100%ing it once, and beating it once again, and only playing a fraction of Prime, Zero Mission and Fusion, I agree completely with you. And remember, this was my first Metroid game, regrettably.

[@CruelestChris]

Scruffy Goatspider This is an Elite Space Pirate. Elite Space Pirate description 3.

[@TemperusMaximusM41]

CruelestChris well played, I tip my obscure reference hat to you, good sir.

[@BeeWaifu]

Here's the solution on what to do about Other M: 1.Deny it ever happened. The end.

[@1beatcher]

metroid other .... what?

[@BeeWaifu]

1beatcher What're you talking about? Maybe you mean 'Dread'?

[@Densester]

The fuck are you talking about? What am I even supposed to deny here? Nintendo just stopped making Metroid games since 2007, is there some *other* Metroid I somehow missed?

[@ptiger2898]

Bee Waifu Metroid other.. what now? I dont think that game existed.. But they are making Metroid prime 4!

[@HEMMOROIDGAMING420]

@@Densester metroid Samus returns

[@chris_1988]

It's really weird how Nintendo treats the Prime Trilogy. I already noticed in Super Smash Bros. Brawl that they didn't change anything about Samus' design or moveset. They would have had a huge pool of new attacks or at least new beams to choose from, but instead they went with the exact same Samus they used in Melee and that one was still based on her Super Metroid appearance. By the time Brawl was released, they could have implemented stuff from at least two Prime games, but all they did was mention the "Holy Trinity" in a few trophies and stickers. And now with the new Smash Bros. around the corner, what are they doing? Using Samus' Other M design (which I've never liked cause her suit looks like large chunky pieces of plastic that a cosplayer would wear). I don't understand why they're doing this, Other M definitely was the odd one out and yet they prefer its legacy over the universally loved Prime series'. They kinda did the same thing with Fox in the Smash Bros. series by completely ignoring Star Fox Adventures, but I thought that was cause the game didn't sell enough units and cause it wasn't loved as much as SF64 for example. Other M is the SFAdventures of the Metroid franchise and yet they treat it like the only successor to Super Metroid. The only explanation I have is that the Prime series wasn't "Japanese enough" in Nintendo's eyes, so they actually consider those three games the weird niche titles while Other M with its "every anime ever" story just felt like a better experience to them.

[@TwilightWolf032]

I get exactly the same feeling. To tell the truth, when Other M was announced, I was kinda happy. I mean, if Retro Studios, an American Developer Studio managed to make the Prime Series as good as it was, then imagine what the Japanese company, Nintendo itself can do! I used to think the Prime games would never reach the level of the next Metroid title, specially because they're too linear and prevent you from sequence breaking without glitches. I never knew how wrong I was... Metroid is all about finding secret and hidden areas to gather more power-ups, but Other M's Hard Mode completely bashes that tradition, eliminating every single power up on the game! Nintendo seems to be doing the same as I did, except that they don't have the good sense (or are too prideful) to admit that Other M isn't Metroid. From the start I never liked her Other M outfit, and I was hoping it wouldn't be translate into Smash Bros. for Wii U. And you know what? I never bored much worrying about it, because Nintendo had already shown signs of not changing Samus's Super Metroid style, so I thought we'd just see it once again. But damn, what happened for them to use Other M Samus for Smash Bros.?! They already know we all hated that Samus, the sales show so! It's just old Nintendo being stubborn again. No, Nintendo, no one is going to love your broken fake Samus because you expect us to. Bring back the old Samus we love so much!

[@JSone4Design]

Hopefully, if enough people demand it, maybe Nintendo will make Samus' Prime Trilogy outfits as DLC. I don't care if I'd have to pay money for it, as long as I don't have to play as Other M Samus in Smash Bros. and be reminded of the Metroid franchises' brain fart. I mean, how awesome would it be to select the Phazon Suit from Prime 1, the Light Suit from Prime 2, or the PED suit from Prime 3?

[@TwilightWolf032]

JSone4Design They should have made those suits the standard for SSB Brawl. I mean, Nintendo treats the Prime Trilogy just like they treat the Virtual Boy - pretend it never happened -, and try to shove Other M down on our throats as if it is the only truth about the series. Some people liked Other M alright, but not enough to make the game profitable - why are they pretending it is?!

[@JSone4Design]

TwilightWolf032 I don't really know why they're pretending that Other M is popular among the majority of gamers because every place I read about the game is immediately followed by harsh criticism. Maybe the folks at Nintendo truly believe Other M deserves praise. They could be using a narcissistic defense mechanism I read about to brush off the criticisms gamers are throwing at them while going about doing what they want. Hopefully they don't continue down such a self-destructive path for the next Metroid game, and I imagine Metroid fans will be forgiving in giving Nintendo another chance to not repeat the mistakes they made. As for Samus' appearance in Brawl, the designers DID take some elements from the Varia Suit in Metroid Prime, and even included a stage from that game. Nevertheless, Nintendo needs to give the Prime Trilogy more respect than they are letting us see.

[@kishinasura1504]

Nintendo almost always wants to appeal to the japanese market first, and the west market second. Prime games were awesome, but games like that don't sell well in japan. Even things that break records of sales in here like CoD, or critically acclaimed like TLoU, or Bioshock don't sell a shit there. Its the same for the Prime games. However, similar things happen here. Critically acclaimed JRPG like, say, Xenoblade, don't sell a shit in here.

[@LunarySSF2]

I wish Other M didn't exist

[@TheTrueMerrio]

"Metroid Other M it's the biggest disappointment since my son. And he ended his life in prison, where the guys who made this piece of shit should belong."

[@propheci]

reminds me of mr. plinkett...

[@SpencerKylo]

+propheci I was thinking the same way

[@propheci]

+Kylo Ren with your username, that's not a surprise.

[@MMMM-vq1yr]

"What's right with her faaaacccceeee?"

[@waiflu]

Adam is the key to all this, if we could get Adam working, because he is a funnier character than we've had in any other game.

[@TheHardM]

For a game that wants to be retro so badly, they kinda screwed the pooch by not even having Kraid in the game. You have Phantoon, Nightmare and the Queen Metroid but not even Kraid?

[@nightshroud9671]

+TheHardM Yeah Its weird that Kraid didn't ended up cloned. Especially by the logic of apparently beating Ridley caused some of his cells to get splattered onto Samus's suit(which allowed the scientists to get a sample to clone him. Not sure if they were aware that its Ridley they were cloning or not) By that logic, shouldn't some of Kraid's cells ended up on Samus's suit too so the scientists end up cloning him too?

[@Densester]

@@nightshroud9671 Maybe she beat him with 3 super missiles lmao

[@MrPoeGhost]

The comments are kind of an echo to what you'll sometimes see in the Star Wars community, with people trying to defend the prequels on an objective level. It's kinda the same here, with people trying to objectively justify all of Other M's shortcomings. Do you enjoy the product? Cool. Are you able to look past its shortcomings? More power to you. Will you still acknowledge said shortcomings? If yes, then congratulations, you're a level-headed human being. Seriously, it's okay to like something. But save yourselves the embarrassment of trying to justify everything it does wrong purely because nobody else is liking it along with you. Clearly, there's a reason why they don't like it.

[@CruelestChris]

+Red Ward Yeah, it actually drops most of the stuff in the manga, like here it's said Adam was Samus' only father figure, which ignores both her human father and the male Chozo who raised her after his death. Plus the trauma thing was a plot arc that concluded in the manga with her overcoming it and growing stronger, so it effectively just undoes those events for no reason. Also, it's *really* stupid to require people read an obscure, low-circulation comic book to understand what the hell is going on if your stated goal is to introduce new players, nevermind requiring they also selectively ignore it.

[@michaelherzing744]

+Poe Ghost So, Other M is the prequels, Sakamoto, is George Lucas... So This must be the Plinkett reviews!

[@XularusXIII]

+Morbidge You can't beat the Prime games? This confuses and saddens me. They're easy-peasy.

[@MrPoeGhost]

XularusXIII I'll admit, in my zero death hard run of the trilogy, Echoes did give me a run for my money. Idgaf what anyone says, that game, in its original GameCube form, is kinda difficult at points.

[@XularusXIII]

+Morbidge >I'm quite bad at most video games. Not with that attitude, mister!

[@propain4725]

Did you retroactively cut the ending?

[@WanderingKit]

If this was the first game in the franchise everyone treating her like dirt and her fear of Ridley would have made more sense. This should have been earlier in the franchise, like Zelda did with SS, and they should have scrapped the Super Metroid related plot.

[@GenericSoda]

It's mind boggling that this has so many dislikes.

[@WobblesandBean]

Because argle flargle blargle sexism. That's my guess, at least? I dunno. I loved this review, I friggin' HATED the way they just steamrolled over existing lore and established character traits! Oh, and Adam's death was nine kinds of bullshit!

[@BullyMangler]

Why does Other "M" SHIT on anything Sony when it comes to CREATIVITY and gameplay? and how is Metroid Other M more next Gen thAn anything sony Micro? simple, because of the INVENTIVITY and SIMPLICITY of the gameplay . CREATIVITY WINS . lol this review is thru the eyes of an ungrateful has no valid points just whine whine whine ha! Which other game allows me to go from playing in the OLD SCHOOL 2D side Scroller mode, straight into 20th century FIRST PERSON MODE by just aiming at the screen ? And Other M plays with just the wiimote, no joy stick tssss clean . . this game is Witch Craft . . in the primes for example, players can only control samus in 1st person, or in ball form, but Other M takes things to the next level by allowing players to control samus in 1st sticky 1st person, 3rd person, and 2D side scroller and pretty much nails wii motion controls .. SIMPLE to perform = Other M offers more = Other M wins < factoid Other M goes from 2D, 1st person, is more action oriented, then goes into 3rd person elegantly. The primes do not. Why the fuk would anybody complain about no joystick in a 3rd person angle when the D pad offers the SAME ? yes it feels diff, but it dsnt hinder a god damn thing. no more nit picking please. Other M is simple to control = gaming glory. do you always wnt metroid games to be the same with the exploration, discovery, and isolation ? ha haaa . how about being a little grateful that Other M offered a diff experience ? you have FAILED to prove anything with this review . . the only thing wrong with he game is its graphical textures at times, and the low winded story .. fail review this vid . . you just got exposed!!

[@GenericSoda]

'dat trolling

[@BullyMangler]

let us not feel trolled, for the truth can sometimes hurt.

[@shadowmariogalaxy64]

***** One small hole in your argument that bugs me a bit. You mentioned: "Other M is simple to control = gaming glory." Personally, I don't think the controls were that well done. Being stuck to eight directions bugged me for the longest time, which is more the Wiimote's fault, but I think they could've worked a Nunchuck in the controls and not have it effect anything. Going from 1st Person to 3rd Person is clunky and only necessary for searching and shooting things when the auto-aim doesn't seem to care. Oh, and screw jumping on enemies. Detection was off for me half the time. Way to go (not to you, the game). That's just me, though.

[@EvylServalz]

the game was basically like bad fanfiction

[@eclipse._xiv]

The dislikers on this video most likely haven't watched it.

[@SylvalumsNight]

Yep.

[@johnsother2440]

i did. even though i agreed with his points, his pretentiousness in saying its impossible to defend this game just turns me off.

[@SylvalumsNight]

Daze 072401 Well, I don't think it matters where or not it's impossible to defend this game or not impossible. Nintendo knows they completely fucked up the series with this entry because Federation Force already looks better than Other M. Aside from that, we are hinted a Metroid Prime 4 with the ending of that game. My only hope is that they bring back the badass take no shit and silent personality trait of Samus instead of this melodrama whiny trait we have here and just forget this game ever even happened.

[@johnsother2440]

Mark Moncrief nah, fed force looks flat out awful. at least other m looked ok in its trailers. looks like i cant even count on nintendo to make decent trailers for what will be a horrendous game. if anything, fed force and other m show nintendo probably just doesnt care about metroid. and cmon, mp3 hinted at a sequel. i was kinda waiting for that.

[@eclipse._xiv]

Daze 072401 Federation Force was a fun little spinoff. It's ending sets the stage for a new Prime game. Lets hope the new one's good.

[@tltar253]

This game killed the franchise...I really dont get people defending it.

[@AydarBMSTU]

+Kameron .H Of course it didn't, that's why there's no Metroid since 2010...wait

[@AydarBMSTU]

MrMetroid1998 funny thing is, if not for Metroid Other M we wouldn't need a comeback of this franchise

[@doctorcragmire7299]

+tltar253 Okay, there's the upcoming Federation Force...

[@FluffiFluffsson]

+tltar253 it's a nice game. I like it. Good graphics, good music, nice controls, cool environments with the right vibe...

[@FluffiFluffsson]

+AydarBMSTU Ffs, it doesn't matter if one game sells bad. They have plenty of other games to back making a new game up.

[@jhumza]

I watched this video for the first time on my Wii’s internet browser 9 years ago. This is a classic for me

[@SquishBaron]

wanna know what I want... a good 2.5D metroid game

[@ladyofthewinds8267]

i think he means a 3D metroid artwork with 2D gameplay.

[@PauLtus_B]

How is AM2R supposed to be 2.5D?

[@WarriorOfWriters]

I want another Prime or a Prime styled game. The exploration in the prime games have greater depth and don't force your character to go spelunking in caves. Nothing against the 2D Metroids but they are a product of their time and 2D or 2.5D games just seem to pander to retro-forumulas.

[@PauLtus_B]

WarriorOfWriters I think there's still plenty of room for 2D and 2.5D games. I do think however that simply having a room around you adds quite a lot to Metroid. Thing is that Metroid Prime was really spot on in nearly every way. There are _some_ things I don't like about the 2D Metroids and they're in Metroid Prime either, things like the screw/attack space jump feel a little weird to me in the 2D games but in Metroid Prime they work better. I'm happy the speed booster isn't in that game since, even though it's cool, I don't think it really fits.

[@ladyofthewinds8267]

PauLtus B the worst part about 2D to me is you can't scan things to get lore, which is an essential part in exploration imo

[@jamesmarley687]

I hope sakamoto watched this

[@SanvelloSerapiega]

+James Marley sakamoto abandoned the metroid franchise.... again

[@GrungeVirus]

+Cap. Orange Soghda McGuffiepans source?

[@SanvelloSerapiega]

www.gamespot.com/articles/metroid-co-creator-sakamoto-doesn-t-want-to-return-to-traditional-games/1100-6419020/ he also stopped after super metroid and fusion

[@makotomikami]

I don't think Sakamoto nor any other of Nintendo's employees watch KZbin, because either they don't know how to use the internet, or are not allowed to use it since Nintendo seems to hate everything on the internet that's not strictly about them.

[@BenjaminSteber]

I think Other M was made because Nintendo was looking for an excuse to ditch the franchise. They sourced out the dirty work to Team Ninja and washed their hands of Samus' lumbering main story and bumping her down to smash brothers duty.

[@TheSniperFox]

"bumping her down to smash brothers duty" lol.

[@aryandescendant6116]

It wasn't Nintendo,it was Sakamoto[the Co creator of the series]Nintendo didn't know it would be this bad,that's why they made FF,Samus Returns,and Are currently working with Retro to make Prime 4.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@aryandescendant6116 Sakamoto isn't a "co-creator" of anything, he usurped that title after Gunpei Yokoi died. He has never accomplished anything on his own, all he has ever done for his entire career was take credit for other people's work. And, well, in Gunpei Yokoi's case, he was dead so he couldn't exactly contest Sakamoto's claims. Sakamoto was nothing more than a character artist and one of many producers.

[@Omegeddon]

Can someone plz explain this game to me? so she "looses" her abilites (standard fare unfortunatly) because Adam doesnt want to cause unnecessary damage? bs but ok fine. how does the Varia Suit,Speedbooster,etc etc etc, cause damage exactly? and why didnt he tell her to turn on Varia as soon as she went to the lava area? idiocy and plotholes everywhere. Also i think Ridley isnt a single entity but rather a race like the Space Pirates. every "Ridley" Samus fights is a different one. just a theory tho. A GAME THEORY! :p

[@zynel413]

I love this comment.

[@Canalbiruta]

Holy shit, the ridley beeing a specie is actually a good idea. Other m was heading to this direction, but than they pulled out the clone card

[@capthavic]

Honestly I feel that even ignoring the story or the Metroid ties the gameplay is still pretty bad. It has too many poor design choices that bury anything good or fun that could be had. IMHO Other M fails both as a Metroid game and a game in general.

[@clairity_dx5552]

I can understand limiting Power Bombs, Super Missiles, or the more dangerous beams until they're necessary, but missiles? Varia Suit? Mobility stuff? Come the fuck on. You're hamstringing your biggest asset, for the love of christ.

[@Jormbis]

"Metroid: Other M was the most disappointing thing since my son. I mean, how much more could you possibly fuck up the entire backstory to Metroid? And while my son eventually hanged himself in the bathroom of the gas station, the unfortunate reality of Other M is that it'll be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone."

[@makotomikami]

Funny, how close his predictions were, what with how Federation Force is being handled. *"Nintendo might think that we don't want Metroid games any more"* Partial prediction, since it looks like Nintendo actually thought that we didn't want Metroid games starring Samus. *"I don't want people to think I want another Metroid Prime game"* Exactly what Nintendo thought and decided to release a game (to capitalize) under its title, at least xD Jesus fuck, that's scary.

[@Zoular]

that is funny... THAT ISN'T FUNNY AT ALL! D:

[@Thenextworldwar]

At the very least, we can easily say that Federation Force is just a fun little spin-off, rather than the next major entry in the series.

[@makotomikami]

+Thenextworldwar Whatever rocks your denial.

[@Thenextworldwar]

I want to believe that Nintendo sees Federation Force that way :(

[@makotomikami]

Thenextworldwar I don't want Nintendo to believe anything good about FF, lest they'll make another one like it.

[@MrBucketlist]

This video is just so dang funny. I never even played other m but man this guy is hilarious subscribed!

[@avantgardemetalfan]

Metroid: Other M sounds like it's the "Last Jedi" of metroid games.

[@tonystank3091]

It *really* is...

[@Melkac]

No, not really. The Last Jedi is actually great, just disliked by fans of the SW franchise because the SW fanbase is notoriously awful.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

I can honestly say this is the worst game I have ever played, that isn't a buggy broken mess. Yes, I have seen "worse" games...things that are either blatantly unfinished, or shitty asset flips, things like that. But this is the worst "complete" game by far. It makes Mighty No 9 look like a masterpiece. It makes Sonic 06 look like a masterpiece (to be fair Sonic 06 has some of the "so bad it's good" thing going on). Even Big Rigs is better than this trash (it's really bad, but it's fun in its badness, and there are so many neat things you can do like drive a truck at 12.3 undecillion mph in reverse). "So bad it's good" can make even a terrible game fun. This game doesn't have any of that, it is just irredeemably bad. That said, I do have to give it a 2/10 instead of 1/10. The fact that the graphics are (mostly) decent by Wii standards and it runs at 60fps gives it that one point. I agree with the Last Jedi point too, that was an absolutely terrible movie, great special effects but terrible everything else.

[@yuchun_]

Nope, the last jedi is actually the most unique of the """sequel""" trilogy. I'd say this is the rise of skywalker of the series, since it actively harms both the new elements it introduces, while also doing the most shameless retcons and cameos of the old elements (somehow palpatine returned)

[@phayzonvoiices3714]

So, what happened to the end of the video?

[@c.m.9369]

Is it just me or does the video cut out before it's finished...? What happened here?

[@davidmcfall9169]

I even made a better death scenario of killing commander malcovich. first: adam and samus go into sector zero TOGETHER. they find the place where the metroids are propigated. the duo then begin blasting and shoot metroids with a weapon found in sector zero that can kill a metroid without freezing it. a boss battle later against the queen metroid and adam pushes samus out of the way of a metroid in the zeta(?) phase of its evolution. since metroids have faster life energy consumption rates in superior forms to that of infant forms, adam dies in literally a few seconds, leaving behind an empty husk. samus then kills the zeta metroid, which is the last one alive and then moves on to room MW, where madeline burgman is found and samus fights and defeats ridley. after that, is the part where the game ends where you kill phantoon and escape the bottle ship before it explodes.

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

it is pretty solid, could need improvement I guess, but it's better than what we've got. However, I don't think Ridley should be the final boss, but MB.

[@davidmcfall9169]

mother brain comes after ridley. then phantoon

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

Okay, thats fine. I also think the time Adam and Samus spent in sector 0 should be used to let the interact and FINALLY establish the father-daughter relationship between them. Adam needs to talk about the loss of his brother. Samus might need to share her pain about losing Rundas and the others in Prme 3. Maybe Adam got hurt in a fight in Sector 0 and the both need to settle down and have an emotional moment, talking abot their past and their future. You know things a family talks about. Du to that injury Adam can not parcitipate in the fight against Ridley. So he can show up, ignoring his agonising pain, to save Samus last moment when Ridley is about to shred her into pieces.

[@davidmcfall9169]

DarklordAbraxas i find it very sad that fans of the metroid franchise are coming up with BETTER scenarios for the terrible game than the developer's story.

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

Minor domo It is very, VERY sad.

[@NeoTerumi]

The whole Ridley PTSD attack was just an attempt to recreate the PTSD attack she had in the manga. Except it made sense in the manga since A) Samus was 14 at the time B) It was her first time seeing Ridley since he killed her parents age 3 C) Lots of other shit was going down at the time, I don't want to meet the guy who goes through the shit she went through and doesn't have any problems And a big part of the Manga's conclusion was her getting over this and learning to better deal with this fear and spend the rest of the series murdering Ridley Honestly it's best handled in Ridley's reveal trailer for Super Smash Bros Ultimate; Samus's subtle movements betray that she is still scared of Ridley (which is fair, he's the catalyst for nearly everything bad that ever happened to her and seems to keep coming back no matter how often she kills him), but she keeps things under control and charges in head on- as you would expect from a hardened bounty hunter. From what I can tell, Other M really just wanted to do the same thing the manga did, but treated adult Samus as if she was still the 14-year-old newbie she was back then

[@isauldron4337]

PTSD works like that though Soldiers with PTSD when explained the Samus breakdown said it's a realistic deciption

[@bmombaerts]

A lot of your points are pretty great, but you dropped the ball on (atleast) two big points : 1. PTSD doesn't work the way you think, and samus her PTSD has been canon ever since the OFFICIAL metroid backstory manga, YEARS before Other M You don't just "get over" PTSD, you might learn to control it better, but a sudden trigger (especially on a time you are emotionally weak) can still have them happen. EX : My grandfather's uncle got PTSD from the war, this made him especially afraid of gunsounds Now despite this, he did actually go to places there would be gunsounds (his family was part of a shooting club), as he was able to sort of "brush it off" when he was EXPECTING THEM to happen, and was thus PREPARED for them. However when a sudden loud bang sounded like gunshots he tended to get big PTSD attacks. Your idea of "creature only working on instict" for the metroids is also pretty flawed, many humans get emotionally attached to animals that are also just simply following basic social instincts. And the major reason Samus became "intrigued/attached" to the metroid is exactly BECAUSE she thought it were mindless killers, but the fact the baby metroid bonded to her, and even sacrificed its life, proved to her that they aren't just soulless creatures that suck stuff to dust all the time. THIS REALIZATION is exactly one of the things Samus would have had trouble with, as she commited GENOCIDE on them, cause she thought they "deserved" it (something which actually comes back to bite her in the butt in fusion) You also can't compare the deaths of the other hunters with "losing friends and family" She had never even MET the other three hunters, and we do see she is saddened by their deaths. 2. And secondly : "the deleter was supposed to kill Samus" this is just outright a BAD observation on your part, which I guess is cause you probably weren't really paying attention this far into the game/video making. The deleter DID NOT KNOW, samus was gonna show up. The idea was that Adam's team was to check the bottleship, and if it turned out the bottleship was in an unsaveable state and the secrets of what was being done there were to come out, he had to kill Adam and team, and anyone else there, SAMUS HER (whiny) SELF even MENTIONS that her appearance must have been a detriment to the deleter. Also, you seem to be under the TOTAL misconception, that the bottleship was done by the federation, which it was NOT, it was done by a rouge research group, which was being unofficially, and illegally funded by select members of the federation. This is the equivelant of some high ranking guy on the national board of armystuff (official terms) suddenly starting the weaponization of the black plague, behind the backs of the government, then when something goes wrong inside his facility and the government sends troops to find out what was going on, he is able to PULL THE STRINGS to insert one of "his guys" into their ranks. THAT is what happened.

[@bmombaerts]

Very true, i actually replayed the game some time ago, and I also noticed she barely actually mentions the words "the baby", if anything, she seems to overuse "Adam" a lot more very true on your other points to, but there lies the illogical reasoning of the Other M circlejerk. when the other metroid games do something, it is ok, but when other M does it, it isn't... For example : people complain about "being forbidden to use her weapons is a stupid, illogical way to lose access to her power" meanwhile, prime makes the most advanced piece of technology use its upgrade, both hard and software, from an explosion... like... for real ? the suit can withstand explosions that would evaporate living tissue, but a minor electrical explosion makes it malfunction that hard ? I thought the chozo were ADVANCED!

[@isauldron4337]

Wise comment!

[@the_gray_hatter]

I played this game once after I bought it. Haven't picked it up since. A spot-on review if there ever was one.

[@brucesmith7481]

Defenders of this game have probably never played the Prime games or Super Metroid. Here are a few points to keep in mind before you start chewing on your keyboards: Yeah TGB's angry, but his points aren't based on emotions, they're based on facts. Lack of exploration, lack of power-ups, illogical character decisions, the metacritic score, the game's now being priced under $10, the disturbing lack of Metroid since 20flipping10- all facts! Quietly love your Other M. Like the games that you like, but don't fight against logic and good reasoning skills.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

They probably didn't play better games in fact... ;-) Oh and the technical performance of this game is bullshot... absolutely crap, on par with licensed games... No sorry, this is on par with that kind of game! And saying that for a "Metroid" game is insane when you think about it.

[@elsujetoese2377]

I've played the Prime series and super metroid and i can say that Other M is a good game. I agree that it doesnt have as much exploration as the others, but hey!, now you dont have to fuckin' scan every single particle in the game to get a little story. Illogical character decisions?. Other M was a great first step for giving samus a personality; the fact that in the prime series the programmers didnt bothered to add voice acting or even dialog at all doesn't mean that samus is an emotionless person, or what?, are you gonna say that based on the games Samus has to be mute? I love the Prime series and they're actually my favorite games, but i gotta say thta Other M was a pretty good attempt at refreshing the franchise.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

ElSujetoEse Difference between being well-acted and being muted. Samus in Prime had emotions btw. They were yours. A character is defined by what it does. What is Samus accomplishing in Other M? Yeah, talk about player's agency... something that modern developers don't give a fuck because "artistic vision". Say what you want about Other M but it's an artifact that could have been released on the N fucking 64!

[@elsujetoese2377]

Alexandre Armont well acted?, that's like saying that the Link from A Link to the past had superb personality; one thing is having an influence over your character (by customizing him, or making decisions in the game that alter the story) and other thing is just imagining that you're the character (which seems a pretty lazy decision from the programmers to me actually). And why do you care so much in accomplishing something?, the most enjoyable thing in a game is its gameplay, i dont care if i was only saving a princess from a turtle (Super Mario Bros.), i had fun playing the game.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

ElSujetoEse Haha! That's so beautiful! You don't even understand what actual accomplishment is! Facing a challenge is something you don't do in Other M because the difficulty is fucking zero! Why is Samus Aran a superhero for people, especially women? Despite the fact that she has faced the death of her parents (something never explained or shown in this piece of crap which mean zero characterization), she still goes on and fight for the freedom of the universe even if she's a bounty hunter! She did her job for free in Echoes, did you forget? Sorry but facing big monsters in strategic boss fights and being rewarded is something you won't understand because YOU give a shit about the most useless thing in a game: the story! Go read a book or watch a movie! Games are about you interacting with the world! It's you facing the challenge to reach the goal! In Super Mario, I don't care about saving the princess. I care about the design and the difficulty that the game is supposed to provide for me to reach the goal! Don't compare platforming games with action games! Link from A Link to the Past... was you! You had the choice of going through the game and discover the world on your own. In Other M, it's all exposed to you, everything is told to you! Maybe you should learn about actual game design...

[@DerGeileGangster]

In Metroid Dread, Samus got 2 lines she speaks and she got more character from those than the whole Other M displayed.

[@isauldron4337]

Shut Up If you don't use metroid database just say it

[@DerGeileGangster]

@@isauldron4337 um, excuse me? What do you mean? Should i look up metroid database to check if they support my opinion? Is my Opinion, that lesser is more, wrong to think, when you cant portrait something in huge cinematic cutscenes with lots of voice lines and dialog that Metroid Dread trumps in using just 2 voice lines? What do you meeeeeeean?

[@isauldron4337]

​@@DerGeileGangsterno i mean You're very ignorant 😊

[@DerGeileGangster]

@@isauldron4337 took ya long enough to come up with that answere

[@randomguyodst46]

i noticed half of the video is cut, it used to be 27 minutes long now its 24.

[@ThatTravGuy]

Other M was made just to explain why Samus didn't have the Gravity Suit in Fusion's openning

[@jaredblack3743]

Guys don't worry about it in sure metroid prime federation force will fix everything. everything is going to be okay.

[@MattCange]

Ah yeah samus is gonna be back and better than ever in that game!

[@eclipse._xiv]

I don't get the hate that game is getting. Just because Samus isn't the main character doesn't mean it's the end of the world. We should be glad they are returning to the series at all.

[@Patches4000]

+dragongirl66 the issues are much deeper than "no Samus". Obviously that's a bummer. But it's the 30th anniversary of the Metroid series. We're getting a dinky 3ds game that looks mediocre from a graphics standpoint, has no real storyline based on the information they've revealed, and is a disappointment overall considering the last game we got was other m which is renowned for not being popular and the black sheep of the series. Nintendo refuses to listen to its fans when it comes to Metroid and many other series. In the past decade, we've gotten 2 games and only one of them was considered good by fans and reviewers. Hate is a strong word for the game yea, but it's after years of disappointment and lack of delivery. If Federation force was a quick project among other great games no one would bat an eye. But thousands if not millions love Samus and the metroid series and Nintendo treats it like a side project.

[@eclipse._xiv]

Patches4000 Federation Force is not an ideal game, I will definitely give you that. However, Mr. Tanabe has said that it is setting up the Federation's role in the story for future installments, so all those things about this game ruining the series is false. It's sad that Metroid is being neglected the way it is, but at least Federation Force proves that the series isn't dead.

[@Patches4000]

dragongirl66 Oh I don't stand by the idea of this game ruining the series. I think that is an overstatement. Metroid's foundation is too strong for this to ruin it. It is just hard to be hopeful and grateful, as I've said before, due to the disappointments in the past and the lack of love for a very vintage, prestigious series. And the fact that they are making a new game in general does make me happy, but I do wish that the game following this one will be a game worthy of the Metroid name.

[@FatesDecision]

This needs to be translated into Japanese and sent to Sakamoto

[@SophiaLilithUwU]

I guess he would just go butthurt. As i have heard, Japanese are quite sensitive about critisism.

[@MaliceAlexx]

It's sad because there were so many ways they could have made the game so badass. But then they gave Samus the personality of Katara and contradicted everything we thought we knew about Metroid. Like the chozo being important, for instance. The only people who would like The Other M are preppy fan-girls and people who didn't follow the Metroid games ;I

[@nicholasrhodes7759]

hey hey hey hey...hey Katara is not that whiny

[@MaliceAlexx]

So you admit Samus is? x'D

[@nicholasrhodes7759]

in this game yes

[@MaliceAlexx]

nicholas rhodes Lol that's what I meant.

[@WB_19]

So you hate Metriod other M because it was different than its previous titles but you love Resident evil 6???

[@deannthompson2250]

"Metroid Other M was the most disappointing thing since my son."

[@marcoperches3078]

The gameplay is what sucks the most. I hate how the modern Metroid games try to hold your hand and tell you where to go. I wish they'd make them like they use too: Throw your ass onto a huge planet and let you figure it out.

[@VladNorris]

Crap like that has no place to be in modern gaming, specially when it's as BS as the older Metroids. An I in favor of exploration? Yes. Am I in favor of cryptic bullshit? No. A MINIMAL sense of direction should be given to the player, BUT IT SHOULD BE THERE. Kinda like Zero Mission. "You see, your next destination is this place on the map. Now, figure yourself out your way to that place." Hand holding sucks, yes. But, "fuck it, you have no clue what to do next" isn't the solution either. That's why the older Metroids and the first Zelda game are regarded as archaic nowadays.

[@VladNorris]

***** No, it didn't. They fixed a lot of the problems with the original game in the remake(physics, controls, to name a few). You being nostalgia biased is a different story. And yes, the older games are pretty much BS. Being let to aimlessly find your way through it's a sign of BAD, yes, BAD game design. Most of the time is outright player hostile as they punish the player for things that aren't their fault. A good game gives the player a sense of direction even if minimal. Zero Mission is better because it does that while still allowing crazy free roaming.

[@YourFavoriteDakimakura]

***** How was the original too basic and short when ZM is even shorter when you know what you're doing?

[@JSone4Design]

I like destinations pointed out to me in a game because they give me goals to complete rather than aimlessly wandering around not knowing or caring about what to do, as long as the game leaves other areas open for me to explore and feed my curiosity before I head off to the destination. I may want to power myself up as much as possible before taking on the likely boss at the destination. Other M confines the player to a linear path only to help a poorly written story.

[@cypher838]

Samus in this game is both too emotional and too emotionless

[@ImperishableDani]

Cant believe this was nearly 10 years ago.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

I didn't even know Metroid had a manga lol. I only played the games and loved the character Samus in general. I don't really like how Samus is portrayed in the manga. She's a bit too stereotypical for my taste. Freezing up and getting scared more often than a soldier with her training really should. I always saw Samus as a female counter-part to Master Chief (yes, I know she was first. It's just a comparison). I always saw her as a strong silent warrior.

[@danielmunoz1275]

I like the Samus in the manga, because it's her origin story. I think it would be unrealistic to have a character who has always been the same way all their life. Making Samus vulnerable and emotional is not bad, if done correctly. Other M does it bad, because it forces it. As stated in the video, it makes no sense for Samus to be that vulnerable after all the sh1t she's been through now. Yes, seeing Adam again, and having the baby Metroid killed would've worked for emotional weakness, but Other M over exaggerates this emotional weakness to make cheap drama. The way I would fix Adam's sacrifice, would be to him telling Samus "Do not enter to that sector, the Metroids there have been enhanced", then Samus would tell Adams that due to these Metroids resistance to cold, there would be no warranty that they'd die if he sent out the sector into space. Samus wouldn't listen to Adam and then go to the sector to kill the Metroids herself. The rest is easy, this could've the first miscalculated decision that we players would see Samus do. The Metroids would've overwhelmed her, and right before a Metroid was about to finish her . . . boom! Adam arrives and gets the Metroids off Samus by shooting them, shifting their attention to Adam, he tricks them by evading, and gets them trapped within a room, though it seems they're starting to break it. Adam rushes to Samus who is weak due to the Metroids' attack, Adam gets her out of the sector, but the Metroids are closing in, just in time he gets her out when the entrance closes, because right before coming to Samus's rescue he activated the launch system for the sector. Samus screams just like in the original scene, and Adam says goodbye with his line "any objections, lady?" In my version Adam doesn't die, because there should be a noble sacrifice, he does because he cared for Samus, and came to her help, he just didn't reach the entrance of the sector in time to save himself too.

[@Chyde109]

18:05 "Too bad they had to half-ass the shit out of it!" (Shows Samus's ass from the side) Oh that is gold my friend.

[@metaknight115]

Prime is cannon now because of return of samus and the continuation of the prime series

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Prime has always been canon. This game is not canon, it blatantly contradicts ALL of the other games. It actually contradicts Fusion more than Prime.

[@isauldron4337]

​@@StormsparkPegasusalways has been canon It's at most minstranslation

[@wolfgod6443]

12:13 I've seen this video so many times and only just noticed this little comment. Fusions has about as many distinct areas as Super Metroid, and both have more than Zero Mission. Fusion is still an easy comparison though because it too is a space station.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

There's something not mentioned in the two videos and I don't know if anybody knowing the Metroid franchise has observed that detail about Ridley at the end of Other M. Everyone says his presence in Fusion makes sense. At first, it does but technically... it doesn't. I don't think the X would actually copy (and kill) a frozen Ridley being already dead, having no vital energies because he has been attacked by a fucking Queen Metroid. Ridley was just a pile of dust at the end and, in Fusion, his body was "resurrected". The X always attacks a living form like Samus, the crew members, Serris, Nightmare or any creatures found on the B.S.L. being specimens from Zebes or SR388. Sure Ridley is no longer on the ship making you believe that the Galactic Federation has just taken his body but how can you pick up "dust" when Samus destroys it in a single shot like Super Metroid or Prime 3: Corruption? Just opening a door makes the dust falling apart. I know it's a small detail but in the franchise, it's a serious mistake. Sakamoto fucks up again!

[@AlaLoupeQC]

***** Did you play Metroid Fusion? Ridley is alive, I agree... BUT he's dead once the X gets him. Best proof? Samus was given a minimal chance of surviving. It's like a Chestburster leaving the host.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

Actually, we do. The eye is the best sign we've got. Just like Super Metroid btw (or Metroid Prime 3). I do agree about something in Other M: if nobody has the technology to destroy the Metroids, they can't be allowed to exist. My guess is the Chozo knew a Metroid rampage would happen so they made sure they could be stopped by giving them a single weakness. I still find it odd that people are still trying to find weird explanations when they defend Other M. Ridley wasn't the worst part... The ending was.

[@TwilightWolf032]

You're right! Everything a Metroid drains life from dies. I doubt Ridley had strength left to fend off the Metroid Queen, or that the Metroid would leave its prey for any reason. Even if it did happen and the Queen left the room with Ridley alive, he would've died from the wounds (as he was actually dead when we find him). In other words, no prey for the Xs... Other M manages to screw things that happened before and after it... incredible...

[@kishinasura1504]

Those kind of plotholes can be easily filled by resorting to fiction-science. Cloning, or that the X can replicate an entire individual just by accesing their DNA or something among those lines. Those kind of things are irrelevant. Taking away the Prime games from the continuity, that's blasfemy.

[@AlaLoupeQC]

Nate River The creature has to be alive before the X copies the DNA. Still, it trivializes the X from Fusion. Maybe they did even more clones but it doesn't make any sense because Samus would notice the problen already IN Fusion.

[@ArmaBiologica35]

This reminds me of RedLetterMedia´s reviews on the star wars prequels for some reason.

[@osaka35]

I enjoyed the gameplay after I got used to it, but it didn't really feel much like a metroid game. The plot was terrible, full of plot holes, had zero respect for the rest of the series, completely misunderstood what made metroid awesome, and made samus completely pathetic and unnecessary in her own story.

[@northwindkey]

The only emotion we ever needed from Samus was at the end of Metroid 2. The Metroid hatches, with no hostility towards Samus, mistaking her for it's mother. Samus sees it, preparing to shoot it, but doesn't, not because she feels some motherly bond, but because she knows that it could be used for the good of civilization, and that is risk worth taking to her. She acted based on what she thought was right, and that's it. But then Other M turned it into her feeling some motherly bond? That makes no sense, she only knew it for like an hour before dropping it off at a random space station.

[@gundamnduke0]

If only you could see into the future of E3 2015

[@Veolynn13]

"Still not as bad as Other M."

[@vaporfarts]

+Ken Chen "Every game has to be the same as past games, even spinoffs" "NINTENDO, OMG ALL YOU MAKE IS REHASHES" You people are dumb.

[@gundamnduke0]

vaporfarts Yup, making something different is an excuse for shit. I love fanboys, they make frustration easy.

[@gundamnduke0]

***** Boy you said it pal, it's like taking someone as menacing as Darth Vader and make him into a whiny creepy sex-craving teenager in a prequel.....oh wait they actually did it.

[@dtc7014]

2020 and this video is still amazing

[@jjtheenton]

It just dawned on me that it will have been nearly ten years on the dot since this video came out when Dread finally drops. That's almost poetic.

[@TheGlader2]

Woah I really watched this 10 years ago? Are you still alive? Also why'd the end get cut off?

[@AlaricHolmes]

It's funny. I've only ever played Super Metroid, and while the Prime series looks entertaining, somehow I don't think I missed anything by not playing Other M. Thanks for the warning. Maybe I'll get around to the Prime series, but I'll skip Other M. Of course, the rendering of Samus was pretty hot in Other M, so I guess there's _something_ of value there....

[@VladNorris]

Well, if you think Samus being sexy is the way to go, it's certainly a possitive there. But I think they overblown it. I mean...heels? HEELS?

[@AlaricHolmes]

Oh, I agree that the heels were a bit much, to say the least -- although, to be honest, I hadn't noticed the heels in the clips I saw in the video, but I see them now that I've Googled her as she appeared in Other M. However, the rest I can totally handle. Still, I'd prefer good gaming over a sexy protagonist, if I had to choose.

[@AlaricHolmes]

Me, I never get sick of sexy outfits, but I get what you're saying. As for picking up Prime, it's on my to-do list! :^D

[@AlaricHolmes]

***** Ignorance or time-management? Also, I'm not sure how "ignorance" plays into this, given that he laid out virtually the entire storyline -- thus giving me a clear idea of what the game was about from beginning to end -- and so about all that I would be getting out of playing it is a sense of the game-play, which he already said was pretty decent. So, I have a good idea of what I'm missing and what I'm not. Anyway, I don't have time to try every game that comes around, and so I rely in part on the opinions of those I respect in order to pick and choose which games I spend the time playing. That said, to be fair, if I had been _itching_ to play Other M before I saw this video, I might see fit to give it a try regardless of this review; but I hadn't been, and so I shan't.

[@duonghai3508]

seriously other M back to 3rd person shooter it's similar to Super metroid more than prime ever does , u should check this game out man , IMO skip all those metroid prime with it FPS and shit play metroid M instead , u'll never regret

[@acceletron]

While I'm sorry Metroid: Other M hurt you so much, crazy precise logic, and a great start to your channel, with (while my comment is quite belated at this time,) this video made at quite an important time for the Metroid series, haha.

[@pcb1175]

I remember there being other videos before this one many, many years ago & they were deleted.

[@tiernanbrennan4722]

There are so many people here, who didn't ACTUALLY watch the video... Or at least didn't pay attention.

[@Dilapidated_Dilo]

And plus why do the soldiers look way less advanced than the ones in the prime games?

[@hungrystalfos]

Other M is like a Metroid spin off only Nintendo forgot to tell us. That's honestly what this game feels like, an alright action game with a bunch of Metroid characters thrown in for no reason. The game could've been accepted for what it was if Sakamoto hadn't added one of the worst stories in gaming history that is so terrible that the quality of the actual gameplay and design almost becomes irrelevant which is something I've never said about a game before.

[@alexmercer2743]

You should review other games in this fashion. I enjoy watching this because it's comprehensive and you've got a cool accent. Would like to see more.

[@kierankillian2156]

yo! great vidya but it seems the last part got cut out?

[@joebailey8294]

I don't understand why Prime 1 is your least favorite.

[@LordSpleach]

Metroid Fusion is the Big Sci-Fi Blockbuster. Other M is the SyFy Channel Original Movie.

[@louisblack8474]

what should have happened Adam-I'm going to have to ask your cooperation on this one, BUT!, I'm also going to have to ask you to follow my commands. Samus-if you want my help, I'll give it, but it'll be on MY terms!

[@michaelmccarty1327]

+Louis Black I know, right? Another thing she should have said: ADAM: Samus, It looks like I'm gonna have to ask for your help on this mission. SAMUS: What mission? I thought I was an "outsider." You want my help, start talking buddy, or I walk. Then we have exposition and give the game purpose, and less of an arbitrary game of Simon, or rather Adam Says.

[@TwilightWolf032]

After better analyzing a few things, I realized you've made a huge mistake on your video. On Adam's death part, you shouldn't have gone with the "what's if"s (jumping out from a window, bombing the station from the outside). Instead we should be asking "why not let the player experience it?". Just think about that: it's a game, not a movie (although sold as a game, more than half of it is a movie, so it's rather confusing). Instead of just having someone jump out of nowhere telling you "the Metroids there are invincible, let me blow up with them instead", we should have been given the chance to experience that. How so? BY LETTING US INTO THAT DAMN SECTOR ZERO!! Imagine this: you're running towards the Sector Zero; you know there are Metroids there; you have your Ice Beam - a Metroid's only weakness - ready; you find a Metroid; you shot it with the Ice Beam. You won, right? Well, the Metroid is unscathed, runs towards you and starts draining your life. You manage to Morph Ball and Bomb your way out of there, but for some reason your Ice Beam doesn't work on this particular Metroid. After losing almost all of your Energy Tanks, a cutscene kicks in leading you to run away from that battle. You imagine you'll find an answer for your problem by exploring the Sector, but instead you find a nest/laboratory full of genetically modified Metroids. They all start chasing you, and your only choice is run away. When you finally get off from Sector Zero, you've received so much damage that the Power Suit itself has become unstable, and part of the damage has already passed down to Samus, leaving her weak and almost unconscious. With the door leading to the Sector closed behind her, there's but one Metroid yet in a larval stage outside, but Samus is too weak to fight, quickly losing consciousness. As she faints and the Power Suit vanishes from the damage received, a shot of Ice Beam comes flying through the room freezing the infant parasite. Samus wakes up by Adam's side, seeing how he made some quick first aid procedures to save her, he updates her as to why those Metroids are invulnerable to cold and gives your final mission before going through the door and activating the self destruction sequence for that part of the station while the Power Suit finishes recovering up as well. See? That's how a game should work. Instead of having someone tell you things are like that, you actually manage to experience all of this. And by doing that you make Adam's death reasonable and honorable, instead of making it look like a stupid decision based on rumors. You actually saw how those Metroids have overcome their only weakness, and how horrifying that may be. You know you don't stand a chance against them, so you have to take whatever small chances you have against them - in this case, blowing up the Sector Zero. You understand that what Adam is doing is giving up his life instead of letting Samus run the risk by doing so - he knows her very well, he knows she would do it if she had the chance. We now know Adam cares for Samus, and whatever happened between them in the past has now been forgiven, and he also trusts her enough to accomplish the rest of the mission! And above all, Adam's death wasn't just the result of an anti-climax cutscene, but a proper climax for the story! But it is understandable that you would approach that "This Seems Like a Good Place to Die" scene the way you did. The game itself tries to pass by a movie instead of a game for 2 hours or more, of course you'd make the mistake of criticizing its plot based on movie logic - we all did that.

[@TwilightWolf032]

Homura Hino Maybe I wasn't clear on that, but what I wrote there is just an alternative on how the scene could've been. You know, instead of playing a cutscene telling us those Metroids are invincible, let us experience that, se those mythical unfreezable Metroids for ourselves on a GAMEPLAY SEGMENT, and not cutscene. Then we could believe what Adam told us about it being freezable because it was at a larval stage (and realize that in my version Samus didn't get shot by Adam, making him less scumbag). I'm just giving an example at how the game should've handled all of its plots.

[@AlphonseDaya]

One thing you forgot to mention is that Metroids can be killed with a powerful enough explosion: see Super Metroid where you can kill them with 3 power-bombs and Adam's "sacrifice".

[@TwilightWolf032]

AlphonseDaya Not to mention in Metroid II: Return of Samus, Omega Metroids are invulnerable to ice, but Samus manages to blast them dead without any problem. So what's the big deal with Metroids being invulnerable to cold in Other M? It's not like they're invincible!

[@ryaquaza3offical]

The whole Ridley breakdown would probably be make sense if it was early in the timeline, after all wouldn’t you be scared of a giant space pterosaur that when you last say it murdered your family before mocking you about it

[@woomykong4717]

TWO NEW FUCKIN METROIDS WOHOOOO!!!!!

[@ArmaBiologica35]

Interestingly enough Metroid Prime 3 also puts the morality of the Galactic Federation in question in many ways. The phazon gfed troopers use in their weapons was collected from planet Aether, planet Bryyo is where they collect fuel for their fleet which is why it was targeted by Dark Samus to be impacted with a Phazon seed. Both planets are inhabited by their respective cultures. So why does the federation think it´s okay to exploit the natural resources from foreign sovereign planets? When Samus and the other hunters go into a coma, they don´t try to cure their phazon sickness, they weaponize it, without their consent and at the expense of their health. Why is the federation hiring mercenaries in the first place? are the missions Samus takes really that dangerous that a group of a few hundred soldiers can´t fulfill them, or is it because mercenaries don´t have to follow some kind of "geneva conventions"? How many times do Samus´ missions end with something being blown up again? If there is some kind of "geneva conventions" in the Metroid universe, does any of the weapons Samus uses in the games fit within it?

[@yuchun_]

That's the one thing that's arguable with his take on the "plot device." The other metroid games already define the GF as a morally dubious organization, with Fusion already using the exact same twist of reproducing metroids far more effectively. Other M is literally so bad it just repeats fusion but at the same time requires games to be deleted off the timeline to be cohesive. It's the worst kind of retcon, and I'm irritated by how it's never been officially disowned, like how they TRIED to disown the Prime series.

[@HolyknightVader999]

If I were to make Samus go PTSD while facing Ridley, it would not be her getting scared. Instead, she'd scream a mighty war cry and be consumed with rage, especially when Ridley seemingly kills Anthony. Kind of like Arcee from Transformers Prime whenever the names of Airachnid or Cliffjumper gets mentioned. Samus goes berserk and during the fight, her beserker mode gives her greater speed and strength. Once the actual boss fight gets won, Samus mutters something about sending Ridley back to hell, whereareas General Adam would butt in and try to get Samus to capture Ridley alive, so they can interrogate him and see what he knows about the whole fiasco. Samus disagrees and wants to kill Ridley, and the player gets to choose: eviscerate Ridley now and remain in the dark about what's going on, or spare him and find out a bit more about the real menace of the space station, only for Ridley to escape so you can fight him again later. You can have Samus be emotional when facing Ridley, but doing it the right way is what counts. Instead of her being fearful, I'd have her be as hate-filled as Anakin in Episode III's final battle.

[@gabeVD]

Yeah i mean because no videogame characters should have feelings they should be emotionless ALWAYS....what about link he has feelings he is also a hero what about DK he is sort of a hero and has feelings what about mario he has feelings but nobody complains about them (not saying i hate them i love them)

[@-tole-274]

So, how do you feel about Metroid Prime: Federation Force?

[@jennytalia6724]

Terra-Player I feel we've made a huge mistake by thinking that Nintendo responds well to criticism. We are treating them as if they're a dev on Steam or something and it's caused a backlash that no one expected.

[@altermann6753]

Isn't it a spin off like Prime Hunters, though?

[@jennytalia6724]

Alter Mann To quote another youtuber, "all of Nintendo's other spinoffs actually feel like they belong in the franchise. Mario Kart feels like a Mario game, etc. This doesn't feel like a Metroid game at all."

[@SonicKick]

Terra-Player On twitter, brit doesn't really care at this point. twitter.com/TheGamingBrit/status/610893259817156609 And he thinks the outlash is ridiculous twitter.com/TheGamingBrit/status/616367829516963840 However, he is excited about the possibility of a new Prime Game on the NX twitter.com/TheGamingBrit/status/611223969635663872

[@PatchyE]

jenny talia I don't know dude. Does Link's Crossbow Training feel like a Zelda game?

[@connorsarkissian3095]

WE GOT PRIME 4 NOW

[@AlaLoupeQC]

Been a while... time for more... What's worse is that it comes from Nintendo and is supposed to be a top-quality product! We EXPECT top quality products from this damn company! It can't be "defended" because it's the work of Team Ninja but Nintendo pushed the crap out of it and was directly involved with this one unlike Metroid Prime 3 despite the AMAZING pre-launch campaign and it was so beautiful to get one new trailer per week with details about the story, characters, setups... DAMN, I miss 2007... At the time, Other M didn't exist, everyone was happy because Metroid was MORE relevant than anything else from Nintendo... more so than Zelda, Mario, Pokémon... Because it was just top-notch... Because Metroid always created a new standard and stood up against the numerous cliches! Hell, people thought Prime was going to be a copy-paste of Halo but instead, the game kept the formula right on par with Super Metroid despite all the speedruns and tricky jumps that showcased a few design flaws despite the ingenuous work done to it (something that Other M fans to have forgotten while playing the most recent Metroid title). In fact, I don't even think that most Metroid know why the love this fucking franchise and that sickens me! You look at the most recent Nintendo games like Skyward Sword and they always tried to be on par with the demographic... Skyward Sword went into that with the "cinematic" approach and linear experience that is absolutely not what you want from Zelda... same with Other M. Mario? It's more about the art than actual platforming skills until you complete the game which means beating Bowser and see the actual meat of the game... The first time you play a Metroid game, you should be lost and you need to figure out where you have to go by yourself! Other M doesn't do that... for the sake of the abysmal story that doesn't teach anything good! That's the sin: if the story was actually good, I would have accepted it! As a spin-off, I would have accepted it. As a prologue, I would be happy! But it takes place between Super and Fusion and it fucks up the entire franchise by removing EVERY SINGLE GAME FROM THE TIMELINE with small little lines that nobody took notes of! "Everything you see will also appear on this screen" despite the fact that you SHOULD be aware of the fucking Deleter! "It was the first joint mission I have been a part of since I became a freelance bounty hunter" despite the fact that it is your second because Corruption happened or else you should explain exactly why you left instead of what made you "possibly" quit because it's not clear at all. "From someone who dislikes taking orders" because Fusion made it clear that Samus doesn't like receiving orders except from another CO that we could have related to if it was not the same man that completely eradicated Samus's personality from Fusion, a game released 8 years prior. "What's wrong? Head to Sector 1!" because letting the player explore is beyond the ideas of the director who was part of the creation of that fucking franchise! "Adam, thank you" for shooting Samus in the back instead of letting the player the truth because we will never know if there were actual Metroids inside... because you can't create a story based on fucking expositions since you know you will fuck up and leave so many questions unanswered and, worst of all, deny the impact and agency of the player in the entire process, something that was the strongest aspect of the franchise: AGENCY, FREEDOM, EXPLORATION, DISCOVERY, CURIOSITY, KNOWLEDGE, PURPOSE!!! And the worst part? The Bottle Ship explodes after Samus takes the helmet back... despite saying that she will NOT grieve his death! IT IS ALL FOR NOTHING!!! I thought Metroid Prime 3 gave us something clear: destroy the fucking Phazon! What do we do? We blow up the source! Super Metroid? Destroy Mother Brain! What do we do? We destroy Mother Brain and, accidently, blow up Zebes. Metroid Prime 1... find the source of something that the Pirates were experimenting on... What do we do? We confront the source! Metroid Prime 2... find the missing GF Troopers... What do we do? We find the troopers but we end up helping an alien race from a raging war against the same race that killed our friends! And technically, Samus does it for FREE!!! This is way beyond the simple idea of a bounty hunter but it proves that Samus (and the player) is powerful enough to overcome the strongest dangers of the galaxy by simply going at the core of its source... and blow it up thanks to skills and tools at our disposition! I hate Other M because it denies what made Metroid good! Oh and don't tell me I'm making this up: this is the entire franchise in a nutshell and if you are someone who likes the franchise, please take a look at other games inspired by Metroid! You would be amazed! Guacamelee, SteamWorld Dig, Xeodrifter... Damn, those are good games! Even Strider 2014 does a better job than Other M when it comes to freedom and exploration! Why is it not acceptable for Other M to be part of the franchise? Because of everything I just wrote! As a direct entry to the timeline, this game should have pushed the standards or simply reached them but it doesn't. Other narrative games like Batman Arkham or even real action games like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry offer a deeper experience in terms of combat and, fact, you can't do this in Metroid because the game's enhancement system isn't built for that! Sure, tools are there to overcome danger but your skills should be about how you solve puzzle and how you reach certain parts of the world you're given to explore! The true skill tests are the boss battles and, let's all be honest, boss battles are fucking easy in Other M. They're just "fun" to watch but unbearable to play because you need no skills to beat them! Worst: most of them happens after you acquire an upgrade destroying the whole tension... The real sin? The "fuck you" moment with the Power Bomb because each time you get an upgrade since Super Metroid, you're sometimes given a clear explanation on how you use them and since Prime Trilogy, you're given deeper details on what you can do with those items which means that it opens an entire book of ideas on how you can use them in diverse situations! You don't know when the Power Bomb is activated! That is not only illogical but it is a failure of game design! Just like the fucking laser whip in Sonic Boom where it destroys the entire purpose of combat as the Power Bomb destroys the entire purpose of an entire so-called boss battle! Items in Other M are simply there to overcome a small gameplay barrier in the plot and not much else. You're not given the right to go back to other places when it should be a logical moment because the story would be fucked up if you explore... which is why the narrative presented in Other M will never work for Metroid-style games! You're given more freedom in Arkham Asylum despite being story-driven and it was released in 2009!!! Now... tell me if Other M is relevant. Sure you will say that this game is fun but... you can't explain why it is fun because you don't know any better! At the end, this game is a piece of shit on par with many movie-licensed games that have the same design philosophy... and YOU don't like those games because you know they are terrible. Why is it acceptable for Other M? Because it bears the name of a fucking franchise! That's the only reason why you love Other M: there are Metroid elements in it but nothing that makes it relevant or memorable!

[@silenthero252]

Well said. The first Metroid game helped create the metroidvania genre, and Other M throws the franchise's legacy out the window.

[@ZobmieRules]

Alexandre Armont /salute

[@wittyjester]

I have a question for TheGamingBrit regarding something off topic. How in the world did you get the idea to use a screenshot of Kaiserslautern in your video? (It is shown at 09:59). It's one of Germany's ugliest towns, which I happen to know since I live there. It just really broke my concentration when it popped up. In other words: Kaiserslautern represent, I guess. Faved the video for that gimmick alone. ^^

[@Ridley1911]

Now we got something worse than other m , thanks nintendo.

[@yukinonfan]

Ridley Dragmire What a sad time to be a Metroid fan

[@RJMakdaddy]

Ridley Dragmire Guys, what the fuck. Federation Force isn't that big a deal. If anything, it actually looks pretty fun. You know what is actually bullshit? Metroid Prime Pinball.

[@motnurky7055]

Ridley Dragmire It won't be worse than Other M, it's just going to be Hunters part two. Which was bad, but not as bad as Other M.

[@jennytalia6724]

It's the fucking bickering between Metroid fans that is killing Metroid..

[@Thenextworldwar]

What's killing Metroid is that it doesn't sell nearly as well as other franchises Nintendo has.

[@UltraGamma25]

I totally agree with this guy. Played the game and it truly sucked

[@AJTComicsBrand]

How is Prime non cannon?

[@leonzchannelz]

I think the implication is that by Samus saying Other M is her first joint mission, it disregards Metroid Prime 3, which was a joint mission but takes place before Other M

[@Sckarton]

Sakamoto stated the prime games are not part of canon because he doesn't like what retro did to the series.

[@AJTComicsBrand]

They need to reboot the series then if they don't like it.

[@AkariEnderwolf]

+Sckarton Sakamoto can shove it then. The Prime games are far better than Other M's sorry excuse for story. I will admit I like playing other M, but that's for the gameplay(minus the pixel hunts) and NOT the story or character designs. If anything, OTHER M is not canon, and the true timeline is the prime series.

[@Sckarton]

Akari Enderwolf samus in other m did nothing to advance the story. oh, there's traitor? MB killed him off screen. ridley's came back? huge metroid killed him. section zero that infected by tons of metroids? adam shot samus in the back for no reason and went to destroying to protect the colony. what's that? the colony was destroyed in the end anyway? what a pointless sacrifice. stopping big bad admiral? the token black guy (btw, he's the best and most enjoyable character in the game) stepped in and stopped him. samus did nothing and she needed rescued by everyone. that's what we call it a character assassination and pissing all over the franchise's rich history. now we got federation farce pissing all over prime's achievements and pissing at samus's character. why since 2010 all the old franchise is nothing but pissing at the old franchise and the fandom who kept it alive and then the companies whine about getting piss poor sales?

[@emeraldknight347]

I completely agree with your review. I believe the nostalgia of Samus comes from her strong independent actions that she previously displayed in her pass games. When something needed to be blown up she would blow it up! The other M showed Samus as someone who doubted her actions. The other M shows Samus regretting she even became a bounty hunter.

[@random135246]

i really wish the people at nintendo would see this, i dont want more metroid if its going to be a repeat of this game.

[@Perplexum]

After all these years, I finally know what the cutscenes of Other M reminded me of. The pretentious, ridiculous dialogues/monologues of M. Night Shyamalan movies. Including the acting without showing any facial expressions whatsoever.

[@realhxq]

I can feel plinkett in this review

[@doctorcragmire7299]

You know, he does remind me of Mr. Plinket.

[@postplays]

Why is the ending cut off?

[@wanderingspider9273]

I like Metroid Other M despite its flaws and that's just my opinion you don't have to take it.

[@wanderingspider9273]

I'm betting because i voice my own opinion i'm suddenly going to get attacked for having a different opinion. I also apologize for that last comment I was not thinking straight and I guess I just tried to show that really everything is not as bad as people are making it.

[@kaeflex]

I respect your opinion, can I ask why you like it? I'm really curious as to why you like the game despite its flaws.

[@wanderingspider9273]

Mainly I don't focus on the story to much but on the gameplay, sure it dose have its quirks here and there but it's Okay. Because I think people mostly got ticked off that it was more story heavy and I'm okay with that.

[@kaeflex]

@@wanderingspider9273 well that's cool that you can find enjoyment from it

[@forrestannis909]

I like it too being my first & so far only Metroid game. I liked Samus talking & I loved the way she used sense move, lethal strike, & over blast, especially her lethal strike on Ridley. Other M is my favorite Metroid game right after Samus Returns. Loved her melee counter in that game, too bad I don't have a 3DS for it though, never had one of those or a GameCube.

[@Spined1234]

I wonder what this guy has to say about Metroid Federation Force lol.

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Old Gaming Brit sounds like Mr Plinkett but funny

[@soloconnell34]

Lol

[@shadestrider1033]

Honestly, I prefer his newer content. Armchair complaining can be funny, but Brit nowadays is more willing to look at games on their own merits rather than just complaining, resulting in a lot more thoughtful content.

[@tiborrigo5667]

am i the only one who loves this game? i did not play the prime trilogy yet

[@forrestannis909]

Other M was my first & is so far my only Metroid game & I loved how Samus used sense move, lethal strike, & over blast. I also liked Samus talking, it was my first time seeing & hearing her talk. And also my last unless she talks in Metroid Prime 4. I also liked how she looked in Other M, Zero Suit Samus looked so hot, hotter than she did in any Smash Bros game or any other Metroid game she'd ever appeared in. Other M is my favorite Metroid game, well it was until Metroid Samus Returns came out, it's now my second favorite.