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[@TheGeekApprentice]

Take a sip of water each time I say, "roast" while definitely not completely using the term correctly. You'll be quite hydrated by the end of the video. :)

[@allisonmolvik8958]

Unpopular opinion: Snow had the potential to be/do good; he was groomed and pushed further into the darkness he was born with already.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

That's not an opinion, that's the truth.

[@miguelitomarques8]

The whole promise thing he has with Katniss, and that MARVELOUS dialogue he has with her before his execution made me think like: "This man is actually a fair individual." It was the circumstances unfortunately that f*cked with him.

[@allisonmolvik8958]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 it's what I believe, so I agree it's the truth as well.I just said it's unpopular bc so many people think he was a lost cause from day 1

[@xenonn7275]

Prims death was the best part of the books. It showed how the civil war was more important than the original goal of Katniss (protecting Prim)

[@tropetrinitytrilogy8533]

COIN ISNT THAT BAD?!?!! SHE WAS GOING TO REIMPLEMENT THE GAMES!!! WHAT?!?!?!

[@lusinebaghyan8864]

My thoughts regarding Gale creating the bombs. He did not kill Prim, but he also kind of did. The plan of the bomb was to use it on the people who will try to help, that means the medics and civilians. We do not know if they used this boombs beofore or if it was this one time, but if they did then there are many other Prims that died. They were kind and good and tryed to help just like Prim did and died. The killers are the one who droped the bomb and gave the order. But Gale invented the bomb that way so they would kill medics and helpers. Or do we care about what he did only becouse Prim died and not because it was wrong on itself?

[@iri02802]

I agree with you. It's the psychology behind the bomb that makes it so awful. And not only because of Prim. Why would Coin (even if Prim was not there) bomb her own medics? Because they would have been the ones helping. Gale was the one who invented the bomb for helpers (as you said). Hell Katniss could have been the one helping them (because she has a lot of compassion). Maybe not by medical assitance but by getting people out of the rubble ... And Gale's attack on the Nut in district 2: he was literally killing people the same way his father had died, like so many in 12 had, and so many in 12 were afraid to. I think it's really cruel to invent a bomb that targets one of the best qualities in humans. Sorry this comment got away from me ... :D

[@victoria_is]

You yelling "they need to be alone. did you read the books?" never failed to make me laugh because hard agree. Not everyone needs a romantic pairing to get a good or satisfying ending. I think a lot of us struggle with two of our favorite characters ending up alone as their backstory is literally losing their entire families only to be retraumatized by the quarter quell and following revolution. I like to think they both went to therapy and are enjoying quiet lives on their own accord. I saw a comment somewhere that said they like to think Joanna eventually moves to 4 with Annie to help protect her son with Finnick which I think is a fitting ending for her, while also giving 2 characters who suffered a lot (Joanna and Annie) a bit of a happy ending.

[@madethistocomment727]

The books specifically describe Gale as having a lean, hard-muscled body when he hugs Katniss. Katniss also says to herself that he wouldn't have any trouble finding a wife because he's handsome and strong. Even Peeta said that he had heard girls talk about him a lot. That commenter saying he wasn't that good looking was not paying attention 😅

[@hi-ls6lt]

Yeah, that person must have just hated Gale a lot because for all you could say about him, being ugly is definitely not one of them.

[@imbuffysummers]

The only reason I can understand is if they view gale as Liam helmsworth someone who I personally used to think was really attractive when the movies came out and hadn’t yet read the books therefore originally was team Gale but over the years I’ve found the actor less and less attractive seeing the relationship unfold with queen Miley which along with rewatching the films as an adult with an adult non pick me mentality as well as reading the books and actually seeing Gale through the proper prospective allowed me to rightfully change to team Peeta especially seeing Josh in five nights he did so good I was so proud of him lol it’s hard not to associate the actors with the characters is my point and especially for people only seeing the movies sooooo much nuance is missed!

[@lennajune]

I’m five minutes in and I’m already fired up 😂😂 (Johanna and Katniss have an amazing friendship)

[@Rick_King]

Another excellent video! Regarding Gale, when you go to war, you can have only one goal: To obliterate the enemy. War is a terrible thing, and civilians die in war. But the sooner you defeat the enemy, the fewer innocent people will die in the long run. And of course Gale didn't kill Prim. Suzanne Collins did!

[@madethistocomment727]

As far as book characters go, Coin killed her. Prim wasn't old enough by district 13 rules to be out in the field. She could only have been put there with Coin's permission. I wouldn't be surprised if she actually specifically ordered it.

[@Rick_King]

@@madethistocomment727 That would not surprise me at all. Coin was every bit as evil as Snow. Thankfully, Katniss realized the fact.

[@jordanhebert7240]

I’m not even all the way through and I keep thinking “these people can’t critically read” and “they must have not read the book” 😂

[@jordanhebert7240]

I also wish I had seen this promo because I have an option I think is unpopular/I don’t hear often and it’s that I don’t think these books were ever meant to be YA. The story is most effective being told by a teen/the sending kids to the area and the horrors so it has to be set like that but the book deals with a lot of adult concepts and nuances that can’t be appreciated by YA readers like adults. Coming from someone who read them when they first came out and who has read them over a million times since.

[@tropetrinitytrilogy8533]

Unpopular opinion: Mockingjay is my favorite of the books. The first two are amazing, but the reasons there are more popular are the same reasons that make the games entertaining for the Capital. Mockingjay takes away. The flash and fanfair and presents the harsh brutality of war without the cool games, pretty outfits, and crazy interview twists, to entertain the readers. Also 100% the books are clearly not critiquing capitalism the Government controls the means of production in Panem and most trade is illegal. Do people even kknow what capitalism is? The capital beeinng called the Capital doesnt not mean its capitalism 🤣😭

[@tropetrinitytrilogy8533]

The Coin is Lucy Gray theory is too much theorizing for me. It doesn't make sense it comes across as theorizing for the sake of theorizing. Also, Gale × Joanna gives me shipping for the sake of shipping vibes too.

[@DraconicNightRaven]

I know there were reasons Gale was there and was the way he was for the story, I'm just a Gale hater.😂 I've read the books just recently and I get what you're saying about him. I get where he's coming from too but I just can't with him. And I loved Effie's character and would have liked for her to have been around more in the last book AND I would have liked for the prep team to have been in the movies. The Snow sympathizers worry me. When I read The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes it was pretty obvious to me he was already a bit of a jerk. A normal jerk but still a jerk. As the book continued you could see how he got worse and worse, especially with the help of Dr. Gaul. I feel like it just shows how easily someone that is already power hungry and doesn't have empathy can turn into someone like the future President Snow if supported by the wrong people.

[@isabelleorsini1476]

Omg!! It's so refreshing to have someone agree with me completely!! Every time i try to explain that analysis to people they tend to get VERY angry so to hear that you and your mom were discussing this made my day :) thank you!!!! Btw i wrote a long blog post going more in depth on it, I can link it if you ever want to read it

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Yes please!! DM me on insta!

[@isabelleorsini1476]

@@TheGeekApprentice ok :)

[@onasubirana9044]

Weird that you wouldn't think a book about class conflict isn't explicitly about capitalism, but you do you. Like, they literally number the classes and physically separate them and make them hate each other. You really have to do some mental gymnastics to somehow blame that on communism.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

@onasubirana9044 you are confusing capitalism with fascism in your example.

[@pretzelpower227]

Ok I actually really liked your response to my argument. Thanks for including it in the video and complimenting my username! I still don’t ship them, but I see why she wrote it that way.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Eyyyy fair enough!! *whispers "pretzel power for the win"

[@dominiquedavis-szorad730]

Hi there! Glad you reacted to my comment. And yeah, in hindsight I DEFINITELY answered my own question. 😂 but i suppose it wasnt really an "unpopular opinion" I was giving more so than just a gripe that I had with the movie 🤷🏽‍♀️ And I do understand what you mean, when you say after reading a book, you kind of tie them into the movies regardless if a certain plot doesnt happen or not. 🤔 such as when we see the shear sadness on Katniss's face when she has to detonate the holo and put Fimnick out of his misery, in the book we hear her thoughts and what she is thinking, so when seeing it on screen there were no need for words. Side note: I jist love this series books and movies! And love to discuss them! 😁

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Totally fair!! And yessss! Love talking about this beautiful series!!

[@lillipup_tamer1148]

I would love to see you do a Legends of Zelda tierlist/ recommend your favorite order to play them.

[@snippyhera]

Oooh I'd love to see her do a Hunger Games character tier list as well!

[@thefuriousfatty2297]

I've never seen such loyal slaves

[@KMXC17]

I should’ve included in my previous comment that my unpopular opinion pertained only to Catching Fire. I was thinking it as I was writing the comment, I just forgot to mention it. By Mockingjay I could tell they were friends, but whenever I reread Catching Fire I’m still a little taken aback by how harsh Johanna was to Katniss at times, like they had just met and Johanna was already being rude, bordering on hateful. Thanks for being so polite when you disagreed with me. Your kind of calmness and levelheadedness is sorely lacking in the world.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Ahhh that makes a lot of sense! :D Ya, she's got a rough personality. Makes you wonder what exactly the capitol did to her post-games? She was clearly upset by all Katniss had (including having 2 winners in her game).

[@KMXC17]

@@TheGeekApprentice I’ve had that exact thought. Suzanne Collins did allude enough to her past that you’re not left entirely wondering, but I’m still curious. But that’s just my personality. Also, loved this video, and since it seemed like you did too, can I recommend doing a similar video, but instead you ask the community for one thing about the hunger games they would change, and you would go through the imaginary scenarios?

[@ralunix4612]

I think Show had the possibility to be a GOOD person. But slowly all the good he had , he killed with his own choices. Snow is weak, throwing tantrums. He can't handle his own feelings and anxieties so he reacts before thinking. He never grew up over the scared child watching a leg be chopped.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

One of my replies to those unpopular opinions was called ''dumb'', another one of my replies was called ''smart'' by TheGeekApprentice. Should I consider that a success or not lol.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

BRUH! That's actually hilarious! I didn't even connect the dots that it was the same name!

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

I didn't even mind being roasted, I'm just glad my comment appeared in the video 😅🤗. Hahaha'.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Hahahaha! I've been in your shoes! And hey, we are all entitled to our thoughts! :D

[@benjamintic3653]

Ok so I fully understand what Gale represents, why he survives, why everything happens the way it does but personaly I just don't care. I just wanted to see Gale get killed over Finnick that's all...

[@aud2d2]

It seems weird to me that the capitol didn’t have a plan in place for if there were 2 survivors. You’re telling me in the 73 previous games no one just got to the end then refused to fight?

[@TheGeekApprentice]

My guess is if it happened before it was a long time ago and the gamemakers just killed them themselves - Like Snow said Seneca should've done. Besides, they're all too afraid of the Capitol.

[@imbuffysummers]

Now that the original audience has grown up they can make a property violent R rated extended series on like HBO or something (prob not Netflix tho bc they usually fail lol but we’ll see what happens with the avatar live action serious ig) that gives proper backstory and explanation to all the interesting details left out of the original qua-trilogy 🥰

[@someone-ji1qh]

14:00 I kinda agree with that one💀 Yes, I've read the books, watched the movies, many many MANY times and it's literally my favorite series of all time. I get why people like Peeta or why people like Gale for her but I don't see it fully myself. I do agree that it could go either way with Peeta, that it could be a reminder of the games OR why he could be help away from it, but I still feel like Peeta and Katniss were forced into their relationship at first and from then on it was a bit of an act. Who knows? It could've fully been an act they (mostly Katniss) felt too far into to quit and genuinely like them (him) as a person/best friend so just went with it

[@mandymagnolia1966]

In the movies Haymich and Effie have me amicable divorced couple or coparenting vibe. They cared about each other because of the circumstances and they do what they can to keep Katniss and Peeta safe The Animal Farm comparison was interesting 🤔 I always saw it as too much toward Snow or Coin’s side was a bad thing

[@sarahwallace]

First unpopular opinion (like, so unpopular I've never heard it before): If there could have only been one Victor of the 74th Hunger Games, and it could have been anyone, I would want Thresh to win. Especially Thresh from the book.❤He's just the right mix of clever and intimidation. He's probably the strongest physically, even stronger than the Careers. He'll kill to stay alive, but not out of sport. He's got a sense of morality that wouldn't allow him to turn on allies (which is probably why he doesn't have any). He could probably take down any of the others in a 1 v. 1. Truly an incredible Tribute.🥰 Second unpopular opinion: I always thought that sending 12-18 year olds to the Hunger Games to show that even the most innocent among us can turn violent was ridiculous. Like, that might very well be the meanest, nastiest age group in existence.😅I hated myself at 12 and 13 years old. I was a horrible, nasty person. I hated life, and I hated everyone around me. I was a nightmare to be around. My brother is 15, and he's not very nice to be around sometimes. He wasn't at 13 or 14 either. A lot of teens are rebellious and full of angst. This is the age group when a lot of bad habits, sometimes even illegal😮, are first explored and engaged with. This is when kids start testing their parents' boundaries and breaking as many rules as they can get away with. Almost everyone agrees that middle school was a nightmare and that high school wasn't much better.😶And yes, while it would be horrible for a parent to lose their child to the Games... just... be for real. No one considers this age group to be the most innocent.🤣

[@lostpapyrus]

i wish just like how the Harry Potter series is supposed to get a show going into more detail that the hunger games series should get one. that way it can be more brutal (like the walking Dead orbothe gorey shows.) it would also b ironic because of what the hunger games is to the capital.😅

[@ehet_ohorat]

that’s kinda frustrating that you keep saying “oh that’s because you haven’t read the books or you should reread them” and “oh that’s weird that you’ve read the books and still think that way!”…. idk…. i think that people can navigate well though the hunger games universe and still have some controversial takes on different characters and situations and it does not all boil down to “reading the book”… i’m sorry, but i had to disagree :

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Sure. And I'll still think they're wrong. ;) And they'll think I am. That's part of the fun of the video is the sassiness toward unpopular opinions. ;)

[@TheMikster95]

I specifically came here to see my comment roasted 😂 Standby every word though

[@TheGeekApprentice]

What was your comment? I didn't see yours. :O I recorded this video last Friday or Thursday, so if it was after that then I didn't see it lol

[@cranetoks3448]

Dang - Isabel's comment is on fire and 100% true. However, there is criticism of Capitalism as we know it as well, however I don't think Hunger Games is saying 'Capitalism = Evil." Capitalism is also a good thing in the Hunger Games. I wrote a thing that I may share later, basically suggesting that Hunger Games is commentary on what happens if the Haves and Have Nots become too extreme. (We end up with Extremism). I may post it later particularly to touch on the environmental messages in the Hunger Games. In the mean time, this guy pretty much took 7 minutes to say what I was trying to write in an hour, so there's that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqu7q553qMSWnJI

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Coin being an older Lucy grey is not a ridiculous concept and it defo makes sense in the context of the books. Coin knows a huge amount about Snow, some of them only things that Lucy Grey could possibly know. The way she takes Snow down is so perfect. The fact that she makes Katniss the Mockingjay when Snow hates Mockingjays, the fact that she says "we'll have to flip on it" when Katniss demands to kill Snow and Snow laughing at the end when Coin is killed instead of him. (There's defo more to it than that, I just can't think of it atm) I think one of the reasons he found it so funny, in addition to Katniss just doing what's right, could be his savage pleasure at knowing that Lucy Grey was killed right when she thinks she's taken Snow's place. And to counter the "Katniss said Coin is 50" argument, Katniss grew up in District 12, where the living conditions are so bad that she could easily have mistaken an 80 year old for a 50 year old. Lucy Grey was only in District 12 for a limited time, so she easily could have lived most of her life in 13 in much better conditions. If Coin isn't Lucy Grey, then she's Lucy Grey's daughter. They have to at least be related, there's no way she would know some of the stuff she does otherwise.

[@TheGeekApprentice]

1. Not everything has to be related. 2. Lucy Gray and Coin are nothing alike. 3. Lucy Gray's life or death is supposed to be a mystery. 4. Coin didn't "know" about the depths of the Mockingjay, just that Snow hated Katniss and Katniss was effective. :) I understand the argument, but it falls flat when you see how vitally different coin and Lucy Gray are (among everything else I mentioned). This theory is just fans reaching for something that isn't there. :)

[@alexmeyers2274]

Sorry for timeout this live but sorry for guy hope week see later bye

[@AudreysBiggestFan]

I knew it was a stupid thing to say. Disappointed in myself

[@TheGeekApprentice]

Honestly, I've come across a fair few who feel the same as you! :) Besides, you've got a cool username, can't go wrong there!

[@snippyhera]

Girl, so many people love the Hayffie ship. It's ok, everyone has their own opinions!

[@snippyhera]

This video was SO fun to watch! Thanks for discussing my opinions, I loved hearing your thoughts! I do agree with you on being in Snow's head for my Lucy Gray comment. I still think she may have been playing him a little bit, but your point of view makes a lot of sense. 🩷

[@snippyhera]

@ville__ huh? If I made my comment sound like that, it was not my intention.

[@romyjane17]

@@snippyhera don’t bother with him, he is a troll on multiple channels. Or a bot.

[@artbunker]

Snow would have probably went good, if he wasnt accodently thrown into the Hunger Games to survive.

[@chelseashift]

"dangerous political ideology" just own up to your views. you don't need to dogwhistle

[@TheGeekApprentice]

...She did? She literally said it in the comment itself.