Sig P365 Fuse - First Shots Review - Another 365, but Bigger-er!

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

Price is $730 Sorry y’all, this was a T&E gun and it wasn’t clear to me what the base price was intended to be. Enjoy the video and feel free to ask any other questions!

[@ggalbreath1234]

What other optics fit the fuse. I haven't heard alot of good things about the romeo

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@ggalbreath1234 it’s on the Shield RMSC footprint. So the Shield is the obvious, but the Vortex Defender CCW would be a strong consideration (working getting the XL version). I did find this list in Reddit that was helpful: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P1_Kzss0zkDtEFLe0eJ1NifyJey8P4TciV5eFfUM2mg/htmlview

[@ggalbreath1234]

@@TheGentlemanGunner awesome thanks for the info. That spreadsheet is nice

[@mytquin7605]

your content is always well done brother...

[@Brianwright808]

Hey Gunner! Just stopped by to say it was great to meet you tonight. See you at the next match! I want to try running my S&W mp9. I had two lite strikes yesterday while training, so I didn't want to chance it tonight. May need to remove the striker and finally clean it.

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@Brianwright808 nice meeting you as well and looking forward to seeing you at more matches!

[@Alden99669]

Awesome styling, that’s what a pistol should look like!

[@bradwjensen]

I want to put the P365 Fuse slide and barrel on a P365 Legion grip module, and an extended slide release. Wish they sold the parts separately. Also would prefer the normal tritium sights instead of the fiber optics.

[@thedude301]

Look at Shilotek. They have very nice grip modules, slides, and barrels for just about any configuration you can dream up

[@krazykroupier]

I have the Shalotek XXLC slide. That's the 3.7 in version of the Macro Comp. I love it.

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@krazykroupier I have a friend that picked up one of these and loves it as well. I had to take a double take as I couldn’t tell what it was at first… I honestly thought it was some sort of 320… and the trigger shoe he was using was the only give away that it was a Sig.

[@PkwyDrive13]

This with integrated Comp cuts...yes please.

[@jamesdelong6401]

I like the grip texture

[@masterxiong7368]

Yes I like it as well. A bit aggressive for me but with use, I'm sure I'll get used to it. The fuse is now my edc

[@themountrushmorestateofmin6307]

Sig is a great marketing company!

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

If the grip texture is like on the specter, it sucks it’ll tear your shirt up really bad. I swapped mine out for a Wilson combat grip module.

[@theshillpill6937]

Comparison with XMacro or Legion please

[@masterxiong7368]

Compared to XMacro, slight longer slide, improved grip texturing. Compared to 365 legion, they have their own unique features. All 3 very nice.

[@LogisticallyMisrepresented]

Nice review.!

[@saintmichael753]

Interesting. Is there a noticeable performance gain using a full size dot (like the SRO) compared to smaller window dots (like ones that fit on the fuse)? Is it quantifiable in any way - are you able to run drills, say, 10% faster with a bigger window dot, all else being equal? Noticed you shared fuse vs. g45 transition drill times and HFs--do you recall what dot was used on the g45? Seen a lot of your vids as you know and I also noticed your macro legion bill drill beats all other guns' bill drills except the sand viper (3.77 seconds vs. 3.75 seconds)! So impressive! But in the transitions drill, the macro falls behind the 2011s and such. I guess shooting in a straight line, you don't really need a big window dot, eh? How can a macro legion even compete with a ~$7k sand viper in this regard and how much is it the indian and not the arrow? How much more effort is it to use a smaller window dot compared to a full size dot - say, 50% more effort? Or after lots and lots of practice, maybe only 10% more effort or maybe nothing at all? Thank you sir

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@saintmichael753 So… to start this off… it’s always the Indian and not the Arrow… especially in this space. RDS vs Closed Emitter… not really. Most closed emitters are typically smaller in the window and the dot not as crisp. I’d say this is one of the better closed emitters out there. But I don’t review optics for a reason… from my perspective… I just need the dot to be reliable and my MOA of choice… and no one wants to hear this… but most RDSs have become reliable and durable… Too many people obsess over this… just avoid cheap 😎 G45 Video - used a Holosun 507C (great dot) 365 AXG Legion - it’s fast, but accuracy is final… so Hit Factor (Points on Target divided by Time) is King… At least for the drills I have conducted for it. All the 2011 platforms I’ve shot have higher hit factors than it. Now for EDC… the hits are more than acceptable as you saw nearly all the hits were in center mass… just not enough in the “down zero” zone to drive the score up. Sand Viper vs AXG Legion - I can definitely extrapolate more performance out of the Sand Viper with less effort… that is some of the increase in price you’re investing in… but there is a point of diminishing returns and if I were to solely compare % difference in the 25yd bill drill… it would be a 10-15% performance advantage on HF. But is a Sand Viper worth 6-7x more… well that up to you to determine! Another way to look at this is… in Drag Racing as I thought this was a good example (old data) on how diminishing returns work…. To go 0.01 faster… that is approx 100k… to go 0.10 faster that is 1M. Overall, this sport is unique as it favors those who commit to a highly disciplined regimens and conviction to improving themselves every single day… Which is why I love this sport! I know you’re looking for detail, but I was like everyone else watching when I first started and liked chasing equipment (tbh… I still do 😂)… but investing in yourself is superior to whatever mod or firearm you choose. There are very few (and less than 1k shooters on the planet)… that if a mechanical advantage exist… they could actually take advantage of it… so invest in you ☺️

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@saintmichael753 oh, and some point I’ll post the results of when I do evaluation to my website… so people can cross reference it!

[@saintmichael753]

Very interesting, I really appreciate it! Thanks again! 👊👍

[@kolideoskope]

Now that they’re making a 6” barrel for the raider, someone should make a slide to match

[@ilike9s]

When's Sig going to come out with 30 round 365 mags? And when will Magpul come out with the 50 round drums?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

Idk… but I want both 😂

[@Thatguy301]

Does the Fuse use a P365XL guide rod and spring or is it proprietary?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

No, its longer

[@Thatguy301]

@@TheGentlemanGunner bummer :(. Thanks so much for the quick response

[@rainmaker1346]

Confused: is recoil better, worse or the same as xl?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@rainmaker1346 same

[@peterb2346]

Just getting ready to p-up the 365-xl....BUT now, another option! Question: What optic is that on the gun? Thanks, well done~~~

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

That is the Romeo X Compact Enclosed

[@peterb2346]

@@TheGentlemanGunner Are you happy w/ that optic on that new Fuse?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@peterb2346 yeah, I have the open version on my legion and love it. This is basically the same and I personally feel the dot looks a little more crisp… which is usually opposite with most enclosed systems

[@towen3]

First, thank you for the review, I am a Sig fan boy.....Are you able to give a range or a price and when this will come out?

[@ph00ny1]

i think the street price is supposed to be around 730ish

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

$730 and is out now

[@towen3]

@@TheGentlemanGunner - Its "out" for sure, literally everywhere. No one has stock

[@mcgowan7100]

Which gun did you like better the P365 Legion or Fuse?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

No contest for me, 365 AXG Legion.

[@BrothaGoodReps]

What trigger is that on your P365 XL?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

The Tyrant CNC Intellifire Trigger

[@JakeCamo]

How annoying is it you couldn’t put this in your recent comparison video? Haha

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

Very 😂 I literally got it Friday the day before the comparison video aired

[@JakeCamo]

Haha I figured it was a timing or release embargo issue. The price of this thing is quite impressive tho, you get all that and a way into their fcu platform for under $800, wow, although I always worry about sigs first runs (even tho I guess this isn’t).

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@JakeCamo yes I agree… in the original cut … I talked about how (because it was speculative from my perspective if it was going to be $730) I felt this was a slightly better value than the Tacops (although it had 4 mags, but because 21rd mags lol)

[@PkwyDrive13]

Sig! Give us ambi slide stops for 365s! That's my ONLY reason I haven't tried one...they have em for 320..why not 365s. Please!!!

[@Osprey1994]

Because the 365 and 320 are entirely different guns...

[@RenzinatorStrength1961]

Lol... Sig is Great at Marketing. I'm a big fan of my P365XL, but I don't think I need this one.

[@rikt1541]

splung

[@dookiedookie9767]

So basically macro xl?…. Sig becoming Apple 🤣

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

I think of it more of a 365XXL 😂

[@3tonedThinker]

I played with the fuse it’s a pos with the fiber optic sights and crappy trigger, I shouldent need to add a red dot an I’m annoyed by this. In addition the trigger is junk and thuds like a sponge when pulled,

[@cwshoots]

So like a Glock 48 ish

[@PkwyDrive13]

Except way better capacity! And quality

[@cwshoots]

@@PkwyDrive13 not disagreeing. But they don’t make a 730 dollar Glock 48

[@Osprey1994]

The Sig is a nicer gun out of the box. Additionally you factor in the cost of the mags, and just the whole entire package...it makes more sense than a bare bones G48MOS.​@cwshoots

[@johnhatchel9681]

Except much, much better.

[@cwshoots]

@@johnhatchel9681 I’m def not a 48 enjoyer.

[@reilly6171]

Any feed issues?

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

@@reilly6171 nope

[@DF-DefendFREEDOM]

Comps are not that great if you need to shoot at night…after first round you can’t see crap, your nearly target blind.

[@BrothaGoodReps]

None of this is true. Not a single syllable.

[@m4rvinmartian]

*This stuff is getting kinda stupid.* *FCU's are going to make everything dumb in the coming years.* Sig's branding officer is either a genius or a reetahd. There is so much brand confusion with everything sounding the same at Sig... that I cannot even tell you nor care to each and every variant. The variant names need to be the trade names.

[@TheGentlemanGunner]

Kinda reminds of the 50 variants of the Mustang from back in the day

[@m4rvinmartian]

@@TheGentlemanGunner *Yeah, the Mustang was like the hidden menu at In n Out Burger. I knew this rich kid back in the day that had a special order Convertible Saleen LX with the GT engine... AND THEN... was sent to Roush to Stage 3 it.* _I hated that kid. Not because of the Mustang, but because he didn't appreciate having a 1 of 1._

[@Osprey1994]

I mean, I don't think it's that tough.

[@m4rvinmartian]

@@Osprey1994 Here are two good examples... Bul and Atlas. Both have a dozen guns, many are visually similar. ALL have different names.

[@talega1]

yeah yeah yeah: Sig 320 is a PO$ and now they lost one lawsuit.....NO one in their right mind will buy one now........ So now they are making a mid to full size pistol based on their micro FCU (marketing). It's a copetition for a G19Xmos or any of they new Springfields bigger cats...... What EV@@@@@@@.

[@themountrushmorestateofmin6307]

Sig is a great marketing company!

[@buckhorncortez]

So is Glock. Is there a problem with that?