This Vintage Guitar Redefined My Expectations

[@TheGuitarGeek]

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[@EmmaDelamare]

Is it the tone controls that are tripping you up with the drive sounds?

[@jacobpittman1996]

I can see where you’re coming from; the surfy sounds were solid, though.

[@Shawnpo76]

Jm with no fuzz?

[@ibalrog]

That switching system makes a very compelling case for just using toggles for each pickup. Good lord.

[@scoutrifle6827]

I appreciate how you can do a demo and call out the guitar doesn't do drive well; speaks volumes for your integrity.

[@donewithmodernlife]

Lifelong Jazzmaster/Jag player here. I think the “mid” tone control is to help you sculpt the drive sounds. It sounds like it’s got 1 meg pots so you need to turn down the treble on your amp & drive pedals or back off on the tone knob. My whole rig is set up around ultra bright pickups like these & my drive sounds are fat & raunchy. Just gotta tame that high end.

[@couchcamperTM]

I hope he tries it "your way" and keeps us updated. A very ineresting guitar.

[@georgebarry8640]

@@couchcamperTM Agreed..a different system compels a closer look.

[@carwynvan]

I think that Ryan at 60CH would be interested in this guitar. Right up his alley with the bright sounds and wiggle stick 🙂

[@smackothy]

Real!

[@HouseOfCouplePuffs]

Agreed. I want to hear another analysis. I liked the distorted sounds. Albini ish

[@Robstafarian]

For anyone wondering, "60CH" refers to the KZbin channel 60 Cycle Hum.

[@apoll0n]

You should dedicate a monthly column just to follow up on the weird and wonderful world that is "Vintage and Friends". Every year at Guitar Summit, they have a whole new range of guitars, brands, and sub-brands out. Mostly versions of classics, but what versions! This year, I discovered that "Fret King" is also a brand from that world; so are Wilkinson and Entwistle Pickups. That Brian May-style guitar you reviewed the other day, for example, is awesome - and totally unique, nothing from other manufacturers comes near. One wild blend of Jazzmaster, Jaguar, and no-idea-what that I saw had no less than THREE levels of sound switching: a three way toggle, three push sliders, and a five-position chicken head. Or that Fret King with a P90 at the neck, SC in the middle, and HB at the bridge! All at rock-bottom prices! I was shown the printed catalogue of all this, it weighs a pound! Everything about this is quirkily English, but also GOOD!

[@c.alejo8846]

Excellent info, man. I am very interested in these guitars. I am in America but love this English take on American offset guitars. Offset guitars remind me a lot of the Alexander Calder 's aesthetics. I am thinking of buying the Surfmaster Quad that is loaded with Entwistle pickups. All the best!

[@daleburke1730]

As per Guitarist magazine the fretboard is jatoba.

[@standingbadger]

Maybe the pickups respond better to some out-and-out fuzz raucosity? With those values, there ought to be some poke available. Btw, this channel gets better and better. Great stuff!

[@ChrisJones-ht9zn]

I think this guitar sounds amazing

[@saarangnarayan123]

I'm solidly into the LOVE it camp here. Whacky-looking Tele with a JM-style bridge? SO MUCH YES! The honeyburst version of this guitar looks extra spectacular.

[@__aythami]

When you say humbucking you are actually referring to the pickups wired in series. Pickups wired in parallel can humbuck too, that's why the middle one on a strat is reverse wound and reverse polarity. In this particular configuration I'd say that neck and middle are the same meaning that you cancel the hum when using bridge and neck or bridge and middle, any other combination would be susceptible to interference (50 cycle hum, radio, lights, etc)

[@Robstafarian]

You *almost* took the words out of my mouth, except that I would say: "Pickups wired in parallel can buck hum just as well.".

[@PhillipHolt-f9r]

This reply is very interesting

[@__aythami]

@@Robstafarian yep, exactly the same capabilities

[@juanjan__]

I only play overdriven guitar but I still really like this

[@jamesgretsch4894]

If I didn't have a vintage Jazzmaster already I may have bought one of these. Looks amazing.

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

This is amazing...out of all my guitars...electric guitars...and they are all different...this would be the guitar I would design...3 x P90 pickups in a T style body, with a jazz master / jaguar trem system...so bizarre...I imagining a guitar just like this...then it appeared!!!

[@matzer8846]

This one is my cup of tea ... me just loves the unconventional electrics in a white Tele body Great sounds to be had at a very nice price ...

[@marksmith7789]

Absolutely beautiful clean sounds and a great looking guitar, also sounds great through the Katana. Good price too so it goes on my trial list if I can find one to try.

[@icarusi]

Tried one of these, 2 actually, and they sounded quite different. One was much louder and brighter than the other. They were both set up by the shop guy, so I assume they were set up for the optimum sound for each? I found something similar on a couple of PRS DGT SEs, the gold top and the burst, but don't know about the setup. The gold top was louder & brighter. I tried another burst recently which sounded more like the gold top. I'd recommend trying more than one of these guitars. Neither of the Treos seemed to sustain well on the higher frets 15th etc. and higher strings. On the lower frets it was ok. I wasn't taken by the odd switchery, knob choice, or positioning. I would prefer a 5 way plus toggle or pull switch for the neck+bridge. 1 vol, 1 pu-blend, and 1 tone would be my 3 knob choice with the vol in a violining position, so 'strat-ish'. The trem was good. Survived country bend, without the top E going flat. The arm was too close to the frets for my preference. The arm was also rattling in the hole. This was on both guitars. A curate's egg, good in parts. Looks over practicality for me. May suit players not already used to Gibson 4 knob, tele and strat switch/knobbery.

[@talentosa57]

Funny enough I just bought a used fender noventa jazzmaster this earlier this month(very similar to this guitar except it has an offset body) and I've been wanting to do something similar with the pickup selector but I think I'll do something like the player plus series does on the Nashville tele where it brings in the neck pickup on any position with a push pull pot. Also the combination of a jazzmaster trem with p90s is a match made in heaven to my ears. I'm really surprised this guitar doesn't drive. My noventa takes drive like a champ. Great demo!

[@jacobcox7825]

I love Jazzmaster clean tones. Was thinking about building something close to this. I might have to get one

[@wolvesandguitars]

I am very digging that! No US sales yet

[@brianhansen-hj3ml]

The green one is calling out my name. Shrieking actually.

[@Shawnpo76]

*shreking

[@LRHutch]

Good video man. Its a combination of Telecaster body with Jazzmaster pickups and trem system. Ive built a couple of those a few years ago

[@DarthEcoli]

I've had my eye on Vintage brand guitars for a few years now. I've been mulling over buying a V65 Distressed Jazzmaster but instead went with a used PRS SE Standard 24. I'm sure at some point one of Mr Hornsby Skewes (RIP) guitars will find its way to my living room

[@kingstumble]

Interesting that Vintage, or more accurately JHS, have switched designers from Trev Wilkinson to Alan Entwistle. They seem to be using Wilkinson hardware and Entwistle pickups. A 'marriage' made in heaven? Time will tell.

[@RaymondoGalfredi]

I think everyone involved in the design of this guitar is projecting their personal hell onto the rest of us.

[@livefromadive6751]

I'm curious about what value pots it has. If it has Jazzmaster correct 1 meg pots, the added highs may contribute to issues with the drive sounds. Maybe the mid control has to get to a sweet spot for the drive sounds. I do really appreciate the switching system. I have a couple S style guitars wired to get similar options. But it uses V V T knobs. The neck and bridge (rw/rp) go to a three way blade switch and then the first V knob. The middle pickup goes to the second volume. The tone is master. The biggest difference is the neck and bridge are series not parallel combined. Note: use a Jazz Bass wiring schematic so you don't get muted when turning one volume down

[@oqsy]

Those aren’t Jazzmaster pickups, though. They are P-90s with Jazzmaster-looking covers. I am also curious what value the pots are. I would start with 500k on this setup and see where it landed.

[@donewithmodernlife]

They sound more like Jazzmaster pickups than P90s to me. I have a lot of experience with Jazzmasters, been my main guitar for 30 years. These sound like mediocre JM’s to me.

[@Intheflesh79]

Keep it up brother

[@jamesoniris2647]

THAT is a beauty

[@HewittH]

Thanks for showing us a new brand (I was unfamiliar) and figuring out the quirks for us.

[@TheGuitarGeek]

You are so welcome!

[@JazzinBlues]

Seriously? That contrasting binding knocks me out (and it IS intentional!) Give me three P-90s and I won't need dirt!

[@natsterjam]

Yeah that binding isn't right for me! Weird on a T style guitar but it's also a different colour from the body. Nice instrument but the looks kill it for me. 👊

[@judih.8754]

Nice Funk sounds!

[@kellybrincks]

White is the correct guitar color

[@C00LTRANE]

Two 3-way switches means 3 to the second degree thus 3*3 = 9 postitions

[@1337million]

Just saw this online a few days ago and got really curious and then this pops up right after!

[@baimun]

Very cool, approachable but unique instrument!. Personally, I would flip the B switch so if I was trying to go to a bridge solo sound I could smack both switches all the way forward and get only the bridge pickup. I've owned a few instruments with "solo blower" switches so I can have a multi-pickup sound selected and then go to bridge pickup only with one switch.

[@kirbonite]

Oh yean !! Just wish it was a regular 2 pickup otherwise, everything I've been hoping for.

[@edwinstovall3334]

Andy, I have an Ibanez bass that I gave a little fretboard attention to yesterday. It has a jatoba fretboard that, once oiled, looked very much like the material of your fretboard. Wouldn't surprise me if it was jatoba as well. My experience says it would have to be browner to be rosewood or laurel.

[@Michel-r6m]

That is the weirdest guitar that I actually like. Nice demo & playing 👍🤠

[@DoppelgangerShockwave]

I'm going to say that's Jatoba, not Rosewood. Why? Because if you look at Vintage's other guitars on their website, they say the fretboard is Jatoba, and they all look like that.

[@PooNinja]

Jeff Beck would have loved this!

[@iamanovercomer3253]

No I don't think so ‼️ How many of the great guitarist would play a Chinese guitar ⁉️ When they had either Gibson, PRS Ibanez or Fender endorsement ⁉️ Jeff Beck Robin Trower, SVR. Peter Townsend, Eric Clapton,, Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana

[@ferdinandbeck9719]

@60CycleHumcast you NEED to test this

[@baldyhead]

I think that with more time to understand the guitar and it's tone and switching options, you could get the driven sounds you want. I always set up my amp for the guitar and sound I want and not leave it the same for everything, I don't know if you do too.

[@MisterJWJ71]

The fretboard looks like akoomay (however it's spelled). That would explain the red color while resembling rose wood.

[@teknomanning]

Okume ,I think

[@uwedasler425]

Okume is not at all similar to rosewood, it is actually almost identical to mahogany (it is also marketed in some regions as Gaboon Mahagony) and not really usable for fretboards. The Vintage uses Jatoba for the fretboard (sometimes also called Brazilian Cherry).

[@Mr3DBob]

That sounds like a guitar made for me - I like loud and clean, but have not much use for distortion. I agree with the commenter who asks, why not have three slide toggles, like the BassVI?

[@MF_Plissken]

another must have guitar. if it wouldnt be for the colors i dont like. all three of em.

[@supermario2100]

This would be a really cool mod platform if the pickups are actually Jazzmaster sized. I can't tell if they are, and the pickups aren't available on the Alan Entwistle site, but with some better/different pickups this thing would be really special.

[@georgebarry8640]

As a vintagey kinda guy,,,I think the drive sounds Good,actually. If ya want to go all high gain...emgs would be for you,then.

[@julianalcock8658]

Crunch I think the 2 band tone needs tweaking maybe push the mids to take the harsh highs out

[@FuzzImp]

Okay I want this

[@brianday2054]

I dunno, man, I didn't hear anything wrong with the drive sounds. Garage-y and scratchy, I even heard a bit of the Brighton Rock tone in one of the sound samples. I do love the idea of a trem-equipped T-style, and I'm wondering whether Entwistle was inspired by the switching system of the Red Special. Interesting and undeniably cool guitar, but how do they it so cheaply?! If that was Fender or one of the other big-name manufacturers, it would likely be double the price (and probably a bit more than that).

[@PeterMoore350]

Ive never been a fan of the tele shape even though a few of my “guitar heroes” played them. Even my fave brand, Solar Guitars has a T style guitar and is the only Solar model I refuse to buy. But this beast Andy 0:38 with its triple pickups? Hmmmm Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘

[@Nameless-dz8tp]

What is that sunburst guitar over his right shoulder? Has Andy already done a video on it and I just missed it?

[@Shawnpo76]

How do you play jazzmaster pickups and not try them through a fuzz pedal? They're known for being bright, you always need to turn the tone back when you're using drive/distortion/fuzz through them. Great vid though, really great playing 🤘

[@Markleford]

Dig deeper into the double-tone system and get back to us on the distortion sounds. Are you sure that one of those isn't a bass-cut like a G&L or Reverend? And it's unfortunate that the pots don't have values stamped on them -- I'd suspect they're 1Meg for the brightness, like a Jazzmaster.

[@GaryArmstrongmacgh]

You can get a Fuzz Face or Big Muff. That make this guitar Fuzz out.

[@retromacman620]

Pretty sure Vintage is the same company that does Revelation guitars...which I hope means they eventually do an American version of the Vox Phantom and Mark Teardrop style guitars... this looks awesome, though! Tele with Jazzmaster style setup! ❤

[@PaulCooksStuff]

Vintage are ultimately owned by John Hornby Skewes in Leeds (JHS, but not the pedals JHS), with Trev Wilkinson doing the design and sourcing production. Revelation are designed by Alan Entwistle and seem to be owned by Sutherland Trading in South Wales, who bought the rights from Hohner decades ago, but Revelation was dormant for a long while. While there's definitely some intersection in designers (Entwistle did the recent Vintage Revo models?), they seem to be different companies/owners. Though it's also possible they both use the same far east factories for production - who knows!

[@joermnyc]

J-90a sounds like a P-90 and a Jazzmaster pickup had a bit of a dalliance backstage.

[@ScreaminT81]

This seems very weird. Which makes sense cause I’m a caveman. I like just one knob and no switches. Full on all the time. Sounds pretty good in fairness

[@patsguitar65]

Fingerboard: Jatoba

[@davidrjbrown8808]

Very curious about that double tone pot system. I wonder if the mid is like one of the presets on Entwistle's ATN system (kinda varitone-ish) hooked up to a pot.

[@BoyAditya]

6:00 LOL why don't they use coil tap instead of 2 switches 😂

[@thefilmandmusic]

I like it

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

What were you expecting from P90 pickups only...modelled after older fender type guitars...you get a older fender style sound...for cleaner sounds only...

[@brucifer0]

Being a p90 fan I absolutely love this! Thanks for the GAS

[@TheGuitarGeek]

It’s got real potential

[@Return2TheLiving]

These are not p90s, these are Jazzmaster Pickups

[@kjl291]

@@Return2TheLiving They are P90s - they just have screw mounts like JM pickups, but the pickups are deeper and less wide than a JM, exactly conforming to the P90, and, most importantly the winding type and depth is that of a P90, although it does use the fender style rod alnico magnets. It is basically a P90 pickup cosplaying as a Jazzmaster pickup.

[@Return2TheLiving]

@@kjl291 rare instance where someone calling a JM pickup a p90 is correct then lol

[@kjl291]

@@Return2TheLiving 😁😆😅

[@reverendtobias]

Can you tell me what the problem with the amp is? I have two amps that are making that exact sound.

[@FrothNinja]

I am curious - do you use a noise gate?

[@PeterMoore350]

12:40 what are the pickup output readings?

[@generico7485]

Did you played with the mids knob? O thing that would heló with distortion

[@scaredypicker]

Looks very much like the new Jack White Triplecaster for a fraction of the price

[@miket.220]

This switching system is weird. Why not just use the three knobs as one master vol, one master tone, and one for middle pickup volume, with one 3-way switch? That way it works exactly like a Tele, but with an extra knob to blend in the middle pickup however you want. Or turn down the master vol and turn up the middle p'up volume to get just the middle p'up.

[@sajisguitar]

Are you going to keep looking at the instruction manual for tone selection every time while playing it in a gig?😄😇

[@PhillipHolt-f9r]

It's better than the guitar you can play with everything built-in.

[@jogmas12]

I didn’t know Tone King made guitars???

[@PaulCooksStuff]

9:20 Andy funks 4:00 Andy clusterfunks

[@TheGuitarGeek]

😂

[@Broccoli_Highkicks]

Vintage Guitars are generally excellent, but I can't be dealing with more than two pickups, tbh.

[@peterhall4852]

Personally, I think it needs an onboard mid boost and a treble boost.😂

[@Robstafarian]

Routing a body for two blade switches is a long way to go to avoid buying a Free Way Model 5B5-01 ten-way blade switch, much less adding a push/pull pot as an expander switch for a five-way blade switch. That honestly reduces my interest in the guitar.

[@Krullmatic]

Oh no! You've turned into Ryan!

[@TheGuitarGeek]

Who?

[@Krullmatic]

@@TheGuitarGeek Tye 60 Cycle Hum guy. He loves his surf music!

[@650thunderbird]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@Gruppe_11]

I think it's a very cool control Layout, every combination is available. It's a shame you got no real tubeamp, only this digitale crap.😢

[@TheGuitarGeek]

You should use your ears more than your opinions

[@Jerich0ne]

Those are not really p90, y'know. It's a jazzmaster pickup in p90 casing. That's why they sound weird - they're neither.

[@stuie382]

48 new models/variants in the Revo range, zero lefties :

[@uziforyoutosay1749]

Pass……like your Jet JJ350… plus you modded it…sounds much better. But no block inlays…ugh.

[@gavriloprincip11]

it would perfect if it had an offset body

[@iamroberty]

These definitely don't sound like p-90 pickups. Looks like they have Alnico poles.

[@nstrug]

“There are two switches each with 3 positions. I wonder how many combinations that is? Seven?” 😂😂😂

[@richardclark.]

I was about to lose it! It's obviously 33!

[@TheGuitarGeek]

It’s 7

[@peterporker7803]

If that guitar can't play drive it is a big red flag any guitar should be able to do both. Looks great doesn't sound great at least on Drive. Great for Surf Rock LOL.

[@jobogaert8514]

weird but tempting...

[@PhillipHolt-f9r]

It's going to take too long to tweet when giggling

[@flogginga_dead_horse4022]

I thought you meant an actual old vintage guitar...

[@RaymondoGalfredi]

So Vintage have reinvented the Tele and added unnecessary complications and confusion. Should sell like hotcakes.

[@MrBull-zc6xt]

Are you Howard Stern's son?

[@Sancho_Retablez]

I admit I'm very picky about these things, but some of the situations that I HATE about the aesthetics of a lot of guitars is finding a model which, like this, has every detail (body, pick guard, controls, switch, pickups...) in a white color, but for... laziness, cheapness or tasteless issues and against the most chromatic logic, the headstock is shown in a natural color.

[@jacobpittman1996]

Aw, does buddy need a nap? Him’s had a hard day. Thank you for coming to play.

[@PhillipHolt-f9r]

????😅

[@cmadelaide56]

@@jacobpittman1996 This makes no sense. Whatever sarcastic message you were trying to make has vanished in a sea of terrible English / grammar.

[@connormckee4431]

Literally what point are you trying to get across?

[@KainzMusic]

The people in the assembly department likely hate that switching system. Why not a 5 way and a mini toggle?

[@joermnyc]

So strange, it's like they ordered way too many 3 way blade switches.

[@richardclark.]

With all due respect, people with a lot more knowledge than you diagramed the layout. Neither one of you took into consideration the route to and from caps and what tone the builders intended to have. Sure, both your ideas will get sound to come out but the same combination is going to sound different in each instance.

[@KainzMusic]

@@richardclark. So you own this guitar and know everything there is to know about what tones it produces? Yeah me either. With all due respect...

[@richardclark.]

@@KainzMusic no. But I am very aware of how all guitars work. I have assembled dozens. I am also aware of what how circuit routing and component values act on electric signals. These things are just obvious and factual. I don't need to own that guitar to know that different routing means different values and sound. You are a real joy huh. A top notch wizard I bet. Lmao.

[@therealxicojorge]

its another Alan Entwistle-ism (the pickup and electronics designer for this and various other JHS guitar (John H. Skewes, not to be confused with Josh Scott from JHS pedals) he likes to throw two 3 way switches on 3 pickup guitars and two tone caps of different values, one usually affects mid freq and the other low frequencies, he sometimes adds a treble cut to similar circuits, I can see people spending more time fiddling with the knobs and switches than playing the thing, the reason for the second three way switch can be asthetics or it can be due to three ways being easier to solder than mini toggles saving them money on the overall production while making it looks cooler at the same time, these jhs brands are pretty good at making their cost saving methods look cool. Maybe it just sound better to Mr. Entwistles ears, who knows, it does look cool having the two 3 way switches tho. (I think the people at the assembly department hate way more than the wiring since these are made in certain countries with "fewer" labour laws and human rights in general but thats a whole different can of worms to open and we aren't fishing)

[@victorthomsen8520]

Hold up - I’m way too late to this party

[@TheGuitarGeek]

Where the heck have you been!??

[@victorthomsen8520]

@@TheGuitarGeek turned out I had to cook dinner for the entire family, so I’ve been in the kitchen 😂😂

[@enzoloveless132]

A more elegant solution would be sticking to a 3-wah switch (N-M-B) and a push/push pot (or an S1) to turn the middle pup on/off

[@Markleford]

But then you can't get the middle-only position.

[@lessthanpinochet]

Or just on/off switches for each pickup.

[@PhillipHolt-f9r]

Thank you but no thank you

[@Alan-zf2tt]

Not every guitar player wants fuzz, distortion, whines and crackles?

[@skaz777]

Too confusing. NEXT!

[@Sancho_Retablez]

Another lost opportunity (in 2024) to release a guitar with the sculpted/contoured neck heel to favour access to last frets instead the big block with squared plate with bolts. I personally can't understand why guitar manufacturers are still making that uneasy feature. Am I the only one? Sorry then, all the models in the REVO series are awesome but almost every of them have this red flag for me.

[@couchcamperTM]

the Fazley Sunset Series Tortoise Thinline offers exactly that, and it may become my next guitar. But the headstock is only the same color as the body with the natural version. And it is not available in the USA, bummer if you happen to live there.

[@Sancho_Retablez]

@@couchcamperTM Hey dude THANKS to allow me to know an affordable telly type with a sculpted heel neck. Not very common. This cheap guitars are great for customize and the easy access to last frets is a feature I really look for! You know what? It could be my next purchase too!

[@couchcamperTM]

@@Sancho_Retablez my pleasure^^