Welsh Pheasants in the Sun

[@Flyfishtherockies]

American hunter here: keep your hunting traditions and formalities alive and well as long as possible. Over here the pendulum has swung so far towards “comfort” above all else, that we’ve lost some of the time honored traditions that make up a quality, respectful sporting and sportsman’s life. Once the hunting traditions are gone, people won’t strive to bring them back. There’s Something about hunting alongside people in camo hoodies (jumpers) and jeans, that reduces the feeling of doing something special. Americans love their sporting past, but few seem to remember it through resurrecting traditions and formalities associated with the hunt. There is also something meaningful about formality and tradition that seems to keep people respectful; respectful of the quarry, of the sport, of the land, and of their fellow hunters.

[@blstewart001]

Well said.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

Agreed . As a US hunter I say you are 100% correct. I enjoy wearing more traditional clothing, Woolrich wool plaid coat, heavy canvas khaki pants and wool shirt topped of with my Fedora. Seems appropriate with my English side by side shotgun and Wirehaired Pointing Griffon bird dog.

[@hushpuckena2637]

Indeed, sir.

[@the45er]

Do I hear an AMEN? This Texas boy will probably never get to shoot driven birds in the U.K. or anywhere else for that matter but the tradition has an "existence value" to me. Keep those classic traditions alive as long as possible! Here is America it's all about "make it quick and easy". Jump in your shooting cart -shoot 100 clays - go home and on to the next activity. Walk and carry your gun - surely you jest! Walk a field behind a good pointer for quail? Nah, seed the roads and drive $30,000 quail rigged vehicles until you find a covey. Oh well.

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

I just wish my hunting buddies spoke proper English and didn't drink so much beer down in Mississippi.🤣

[@antonhavenor1317]

This video is exactly why I watch your channel. I am an American Hunter, and I truly appreciate your English hunting traditions and values. I would argue respect for the game you're pursuing and appreciation for the friends you share those experiences with is an equal part of hunting on both sides of the pond, just displayed in different ways. I will agree that the English do it with more refinement and class! Cheers to a great day in the field!

[@gerarddresch712]

American here, and yes I Old as Dirt and love the memories of tradition. I love you shoots and yes I would be there with a tie on along with the rest. Thank You

[@markwierzbicki5307]

Your reverence, and respect for the quarry is really refreshing. I have never seen the draw or point of the commercial several thousand bird day, ( not that I have ever been on one). Great video as always.

[@rosserpace3602]

Life long bird hunter from the states and I love your traditions; the dress, 11’s, the sportsmanship. Our kin aren’t much for ties and we hunt behind bird dogs and really don’t have any driven hunts in the south. (I have been on pheasant hunts in our northwest that use drivers and blockers) We do shoot doves which is as close as we get to anything resembling a driven bird. We do have our own traditions and etiquette which I think is important to all hunting traditions. Keep up the good work!

[@lukedog7028]

I am a American hunter and I enjoy watching your way of hunting. Hunting here seems to change at a much faster pace than there and usually not for the better. Don’t know if you have ever hunted in the states but I would love to see you go dove hunting or turkey hunting here you would have a great time. I have watched y’all swap from side by sides to over/unders and worry that semi-autos will be next.

[@ddoherty5956]

Cracking job Sasha, sound + visuals were epic 😉👍

[@parrisgeorge9708]

FANTASTIC episode! Thanks to you and Sash for putting in the work for the great content. The visuals tied in with commentary is spot on.

[@markwaldron9593]

Please keep these videos coming Jonny. Ex-Dorset land living in Aus. These videos keep me in touch with the wonderful traditions of my forefathers and I love it!! Thanks mate 👍🏾

[@merv690]

What a fantastic video, it has everything, you are spot on on so many issues it is not all about killing things its far more than that it is the whole day and you have captured it perfectly and explained it eloquently, I do hope that anyone who is lucky enough to be invited on any formal days understands them

[@levischenk9224]

The like button won't do this one justice. Excellent video. Loved the duck shoot at the end.

[@johnreed3576]

Great vid! As for standing on a peg, that’s why old school game guns have a wide trigger guard, so it’s comfortable to have broken over your forearm!

[@steinthor071]

Ööðö

[@TruckinPiperBob]

Fantastic made my evening watching this, great to see the steel cartridges in action, as I’m and have been unsure, that’s convinced me

[@hammyh1165]

Lovely video Jonny and Sasha , a beautiful driven day.

[@arnaudvermond8760]

In my opinion one of your most exiting épisode 👍 Really an Amazing place both for territory and people 🙂 Arnaud-France

[@theashbys8863]

Excellent vid as always always makes my week when a proofhouse vid drops cheers Jonny and team

[@eblackshaw]

Beautiful country. Another great production TGS crew. 👌

[@gnarshread]

The word on etiquette was greatly appreciated. If you have just one person not being a gentleman it tends to ruin the day for everyone.

[@chadnolte9134]

I am envious of experiences but this was picture perfect. Beautiful ground. Very enjoyable to watch.

[@Lord-Snowflake]

To make Jonny miss a few clays, you just have to stick some feathers on it. Beautiful shoot guys.

[@The69bombero]

Everybody looking so nice, in south Texas it’s usually to hot to dress nice. Great video good shooting.

[@kerryanderson8382]

this has definitely has become high on my bucket list looks like so much fun. And I love the whole dress and atire.

[@biagiocozza8875]

Fantastic pheasant drive. It is very nice to see how you shoot an English game shoot like that. Thank you very much.

[@russelljenkins7428]

Actually, a Welsh game shoot.

[@coreytohme9861]

Regardless of species, 5:15 perfectly explains why "we" truly enjoy hunting/fishing/shooting sports.

[@Hostile_Hippie]

From an etiquette standpoint as an American I feel that you are spot on. Outside of the tie and tipping things are done very similar within our hunting group.

[@esquire_povey5775]

'Shoot what pleases you'...21:27. What a shot!

[@marcusbowe]

That was stunning. Thanks for making and sharing

[@nashboyanzani4177]

Great video as always! It would be interesting to have a proper review of the Hull steel cartridges before this coming season.

[@GWLAD]

Looks like you had Fun lads brilliant 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@adriantyler6911]

I'm a beater not a shooter...(Except on a 'Beaters Shoot' at the end of the the season).....However I still 'Dress Accordingly' .....Tweed and a Tie, why wouldn't you? I might not be a 'Gun' but I'm still part of the day and it makes me feel good, plus I know I get respect from the Keeper and others for making the effort.

[@College247]

And there was me thinking of inviting you for a day with us and you go and say that extended chokes are acceptable on game shoots now🤣🤣

[@tgsoutdoors]

😂 😂

[@r.parker1933]

I was struck by your thoughts on gratitude and the (sadly, possible) comment that some American may make that quip about public land and not having to "say thank you" to anyone. As much as I believe in the necessity of public land, I do believe my country is missing something in the sense of feeling entitled to land access. I've not seen this expressed in this comment section (we're not monolithic, after all), but there is an element of gratitude that I think is missing over here. Love your video. Keep up the good work.

[@virginiaglock17]

"It's the tits" OMG, my new favorite saying!!!!!

[@timward8335]

Lovely video, made me hope we get a season to shoot this year. Now I cannot wait to get my dogs back working either. Was fantastic to meet yourself Mr J.c at the northern last weekend am glad I finally have. Excellent video lads well done please please keep up the good work. 👍

[@thomasthrash4088]

It nice to see people showing respect to your culture. Our culture in America is being taken away. I would absolutely keep yours as long as possible.

[@itsalexdavidson]

what a video, making videos like these don't only take A class Production but also A class presentation, Jonny and Sasha great video, one day I will be able to produce masterpieces like these!

[@azbushrat]

As an avid american bird hunter...I love the English tradition, dress and all!! Don't ever loose it. One day, I will make it over there and do the full on flat cap, knee high socks and everything.

[@danhill6333]

I know there was something I liked about James. And a fellow left hand shooter to boot. Happily jealous watching another great day in the countryside. Sadly if it was on public land in the UK I highly doubt it would be allowed or you'd be dealing with people that don't want you there. 🤔 As a follow up, my understanding of what is currently permitted on public land in the UK might be lacking. I was thinking more in terms of the public land in the States.

[@johnweyn7679]

Piękne polowanie, pozdrawiam z Polski. DARZ Bór.

[@stpaul69]

Terrific filming and quality game shooting! I'm really enjoying your channel, having just found it via the Beater's Day. There isn't much traditional shooting here in New Zealand, but keeping the dream alive on public/private lands.

[@rbutler1519]

Bismuth 4s would work great. I’ve found steel 2 shot to be best for pheasant. Steel just doesn’t have the density for smaller shot. Gotta go 2-3 sizes larger than you would use with lead.

[@magnuswickland6415]

Great video Jonny!

[@greghart6310]

Props for punting steel, it seems the way of the future even if dear gov. need to be reasonable about how the transition is handled

[@davidgendron1953]

What a piece of film!! Loved it! Forget about the Americans and most Canadians 😂 Gentlemenship is what you guys do/have! The dressing code, the ethics, the traditions, the sports, the guns and everything around it! Here we are all about camo shit, semi-auto guns, drinking cheap booze, plastic stocks camo guns, and the “who cares” mentality….. not me but lots of us!!

[@stevejeffrey7948]

I agree that you should dress for a formal day. Low birds? Do they learn over the season that if they fly low and slow they don't get shot at? If so perhaps a day or two of only shooting the clever sods is required.

[@Blondejam]

Diolch Johnny Da yawn gwych ! Cheers Johnny, I'm Welsh by the way!

[@charliepollen1732]

Well shot sir @ 13:49

[@erik.stewart]

As an American, and as such having an outside looking in perspective, I think the dressing appropriately comes from tradition and that tradition comes from game shooting formerly being an upper class sport. And from what I can tell, upper class Victorian and Edwardian Brits wore suits and ties for everything. My two cents, your mileage may vary.

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Classy Barstards we are

[@gazzatdisco]

Well you still don't get many poor folk out on driven days we just go out rough shooting 🤣

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Cant beat a good days Rough shooting, if you can still get it , not so easy to come by nowadays

[@HRHooChicken]

@@gazzatdisco Poor people tend to trespass on people's land to kill rabbits and pheasants with a .177 air rifle and a jack russell

[@ddoherty5956]

Yep and because everything was recorded in black and white no one ever knew how loud their socks were, eh Jonny 🤣🤣🤣

[@kenlansing1216]

The difference between a Canadian and a canoe . . . . canoes tip. When I have adequate time for the shot I always over- think it: What's the exact range? where is the wind going to throw the pellets? Am I leading too much? . . . . and I miss the shot. When there's a tiny window of opportunity to shoot I just go by instinct and often make the shot.

[@paulwilson7234]

I really enjoy watching these videos and I've never shot game. Just watched the video again great looking day what's not to like ?

[@danielt.3152]

I would love to see this crew in North Dakota hunting wild pheasants, it’s a bit different but I think they would get an eye full of fast birds

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Johnny I'm thinking your the first to be in the field and talk about the respect and safety of other's. This is why I watch your tutorials they just keep getting better and better. And about the steel shot your using I have no experience with steel on upland game bird's here in the States we use lead, only steel for water foul. But Johnny what choke would you use for your game bird's in the UK ? The US might be heading that direction soon with the steel shot.

[@pim1234]

'This peg is the tits' LOL

[@ryanlynch2628]

some absolutely stonking birds taken there Johnny and the Keeper James! what weight were the loads and through what constriction? superb!!

[@MrEMrC]

I think that there is a certain evolution in what we wear; shooting clothing is fit for purpose; we wouldn't wear it unless it was. However look along the line and how many are wearing a jacket? A coat perhaps, or a waistcoat or gilet. Last year I had a Norfolk Jacket and some plus threes made. (Costing less than a 250 bird day, for perspective, and I plan to be buried in them)The difference between a jacket that is made to fit and for a purpose and an off the peg jacket is considerable. I think ties are good not just for appearance/respect/tradition, but they serve a purpose too, relatively unbulky scarves that help keep you warm, but can be adjusted for ventilation, and they don't interfere with gunmount. (Also make a reasonable impromptu dog lead/ trouser belt/sling etc..).

[@TheStockingFiller]

Correct etiquette on a game day: 1) bring a pump action 2) wear head to toe camo 3) shout ‘BOOM HEADSHOT!’ with every kill 4) claim that you’re teetotal, and make a point of letting others know how morally superior you feel

[@johngaffney4945]

On a shotgun how do you choose which barrel shots first

[@sailingguy4491]

Question: What is the difference between choosing the lower barrel or the higher barrel to shoot first? Is there some kind of benefit to each or is it purely choice and preference? Love your videos and reviews -A beginner British shot

[@tgsoutdoors]

Recoil is slightly different between them, if you use different chokes then that is a factor as is speed of reload on single shots.

[@martinsteven2643]

I was impressed with the cartridges. What shot size and load did you use for the Pheasant’s and Partridge? I look forward to hearing your thoughts on steel at the end of a full season.

[@jammyjim69]

Lovely video

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

Muy buenas y chebres cazerias amigos saludos

[@darrelljohnson7832]

I’ve been on two pheasant hunts this year. The first was 9 degrees Fahrenheit. -12.7C. The other a balmy 20F. -6.6C. I don’t think ties and vests would have lasted the several hours of shooting. Lol. While I think the English hunting uniform is tight, and I’ll love to have one. I also want to be warm and not freeze what’s left of my sack off. Oh, and a pox on your house. After your LongThorne videos I discovered they have a dealer about 30 minutes from my house in the states. Looks like I might be done buying 687s after all.

[@truthjunkie2325]

I noticed you're rooting for strrl shot......ok...so the next question.....what's the price difference when you shoot as much as you do?

[@tgsoutdoors]

I mean, I shoot game 5/6 times a year so not a lot by most standards. The price is an extra £1.00 per box of 25, a 100 bird day I will shoot 30 shots maybe? It isn’t enough to make it a factor.

[@dgoodman1484]

Steel, even good steel, just seems to sail so many more birds that I now refuse to use it. Given it’s mandatory now where I live it is a toss up whether I just hunt somewhere else or risk the ticket knowing I’ll loose less birds.

[@ddoherty5956]

Is there a 24 hour time difference in Wales Mr C?.. I was worried 🤣

[@eltonroberts8817]

As a American I would love to do this..

[@davidbetts480]

Hello TGS, I consider myself as a old-fashioned type of shooter.

[@talisikid1618]

Well, steel will never equal lead.

[@ShotawayFilms]

Think Gunpegs are ''The Dog's'' or ''The Bees'' take your pick or maybe for 2022 ''Epic'' 😈.Jury still out on Steel at range.Longthorne in house chokes or after market ? .Gun does look a winner.👍..

[@bruceking9927]

Again Johnny your video's are wonderful. This question might be a bit off point. I notice a lot of the Labrador's are of the dark yellow or fox red. I have a wonderful Fox Red who makes me a better hunter indeed. A lady here (California) brought 40 year old frozen seaman from UK to this area. I am just asking for most of your videos they are red. I believe here people try to make them almost white and it seems to ruin the breed. Any thoughts? Thanks again for a great show. I wish we had someone here who would share shooting and the knowledge you provide. BK

[@davidcaul7836]

As regards shoot birds 15 yards away a I like eating mine so like to give them bit more yards great film by the way 👍 👌

[@cmerkl13]

TGS team - I will be in London for 10 days in June. Can you recommend a shooting ground not too far from the city that I can shoot a round of clays?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Bisley Shooting Ground with John Heagren, EJ Churchill or Hownhall are worth looking at

[@kentonyoderiii6708]

Don't lose your traditions!

[@HRHooChicken]

Do you feel bad for the birds that you injure but escape? I couldn't kill stuff, but it looks like great fun.

[@alexmclaren-salter9669]

It's always best to get a clean kill, but when you don't, that's where a good picking up line comes in so they can send the dogs after the wounded birds first.

[@j-sincopeytargetsmasher3781]

I must know where do you get your tweeds?

[@tgsoutdoors]

They are Laksen, bought at my local shooting store.

[@Redlegwar]

What a great video! I’m not sure when but the Texas guys have to “Give it a go” Thanks for entertainment boys!

[@pevtsovy]

Steel cartridges with a biodegradable wad. In the U.S. one can only dream...

[@darrelljohnson7832]

You can load em all day yourself. I even load up black powder shells in full brass hulls just for my old Damascus gun. Federal and CHEDDITE both make paper hulls if you want to go full no plastic. And Ballistic Products sells fiber wads and overshot cards. My favorite loads are the ones I work up for older 2.5” guns with fiber wads and roll crimps.

[@pevtsovy]

@@darrelljohnson7832 I already load steel for myself. I don’t like the plastic wads. I want a biodegradable one.

[@darrelljohnson7832]

Downrange sells them. MEC sells their own version of the same wad. They are very limited. But you can buy them. Good luck out there.

[@eltonroberts8817]

What gun were you shooting that day?

[@tgsoutdoors]

My Longthorne

[@eltonroberts8817]

@@tgsoutdoors what are the retail prices ? I've been trying to find

[@perkinwarbeck3029]

I am an avid fisherman, have participated in hunting in the past and shot competitively for years. First of all, amazing channel. Secondly, could you give me some advice? I want to dip my toe in phesant shooting, yet have no interest in bagging 100+ birds. I shoot what I eat and eat what I shoot - thus in an ideal world would pay a landowner a small fee, shoot one or two birds, and go home to cook them up. From a phesant perspective, the only opportunities seem to be incredibly expensive (not a slight - if people enjoy and are willing to pay more power to them!) 100+ bird shoots. Is there anything available out there for someone who just wants to bag a couple of birds for dinner here in the UK that won't break the bank?

[@wales123100]

Have a look for rough shooting on shooting websites alot of estates will offer the odd rough day which is walking around with a couple of others and a couple of good dogs for a small bag none of the formal stuff

[@donaldday1281]

You don't need a tie to respect the bird. But you do need a tie to respect the video tradition! And this is coming from an american sportsman!

[@matthewchristopherschulzpo3052]

I think etiquette is important and the tie just as much... I don't hunt here in Switzerland, mostly because it doesn't interest me... I'd much rather birds or rabbits... but if did come down to it I would not be caught in one of those God awful orange camo hunting outfits... 😢 I'm very much looking forward to organizing a trip to GB for my first hunt British style 😀

[@stuartcrane9409]

Jonny I think you need to get a new hat!

[@NathanConkey]

I saw no peasants. I want my time back!

[@borjastick]

I'm confused I thought you were changing your channel name etc. Or have I just arrived somewhere else?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Google is not making it easy - we will get there

[@mattcosgrove8254]

My two cents as an American. We dress well, much like we use good manners depending on the circumstance. But the point is we dress and use manners to show the people involved that we have respect. Just a hint put a tie on for your wedding lol. It’s not a bad look to have good manners ever.

[@Mattje8]

I genuinely thought the title was Welsh Peasants and I thought it seemed a bit politically incorrect

[@jamesbruce3105]

Why's the channel still called TGS Outdoors???????

[@jasontipton8430]

in America hunting is a tradition of the poor you don't have to be rich and cultured to have access to hunting in America it may be wrong but i feel like only those in exclusive circles have access to hunting in Britain. am i wrong? i hope i am

[@JackGorton1960s]

In the us we find & flush our own birds. We dont need keepers or cash. We just go, individually or otherwise.

[@stuartcrane9409]

Shooting low birds is just not done! Because if you Center punch a bird at 15 yards is blown to pieces and not worth eating! Nobody likes to see a bird pillowed! To eat the game you harvest is part of the sport. If a bird is beyond your capabilities don’t wound it!

[@coreytohme9861]

American here: You may not "need" a tie to honor the bird, however, your kit (tie and all) may be necessary to honor the sport. Even the least pretentious persons who play golf still wear a collared shirt and dress nicer than they normally would if they were just taking a walk.

[@ogstopper]

Culture and tradition. The Yanks have neither.

[@ClayCB]

Here's my thought on Etiquette and attire. You dress up for church, not for your wife, and not for your fellow parishioners. You dress your best to put yourself in the right frame of mind. It's a sign of respect to God. How you dress has an effect on how you conduct yourself. And good conduct makes enjoyable experiences. Stay British, and don't take fashion advice from Walmart shoppers.

[@mowerman60]

Not shooting everything that flies or runs shows a maturity and respect for the animal,be it a gamebird,fowl,deer or wild boar.Dressing appropiately is a sign of respect to your hosts,to the quarry and firstly to your own self respect. I am not into pink ties,pink garters or socks,it's a bit showy and lacks class in my opinion. Keep the countryside green. Another very enjoyable vid. Thanks.

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

🇪🇨🇪🇨👍

[@arthur703]

No…

[@dawnhomer3951]

Vile

[@ddoherty5956]

Were those socks to keep you from getting shot or just because you like living on the edge Jonny 🤣

[@doncarter1427]

You asked about respecting the birds, by dressing up or whether it was out of respect for your comrades; I think it’s neither, for you can show respect, to your game regardless of the attire! Being American, our traditions are becoming extinct, due to woke liberal ideology! That being said I love the traditions of your Country , especially in regards to hunting, I’m old school and believe in traditions, passed down from generation to generation, I think it helps us to remain grounded and connected to our ancestry! Keep those traditions alive, because once they disappear, it’s hard to regain them!

[@hameedalikhan9902]

I won't mind if you send that beautiful gun of yours to me as a gift here in Pakistan 😜.