Now the GOOD ones! Beyerdynamic DT 770 headphone review

[@chrono-headphonereviews242]

Hey there! Just wanted to clarify something about comparisons to the HD6XX and Sundara: In the video, when I mention performance being similar to that of the HD6XX or Sundara, I made that comparison with EQ in mind, but I forgot to mention it. Using EQ on any headphone that has low-treble peaks (like DT 770) in my experience has always removed a lot of the perceived “grain” and “glare,” making the headphone sound a lot more resolving and detailed. Still, like I mentioned in the video, the HD6XX and Sundara have distinct advantages when it comes instrument separation-they’re simply more capable when it comes to spacing out and defining instrument lines, further enhancing their sense of clarity.

[@HobbyTalk]

Thanks for the update

[@Jason75913]

glare is just a question of EQ indeed grain comes from a lot of tiny dips and peaks together, from what I understand, so EQ is like trying to patch up a thousand animal bites with only one band-aid - K702, for instance, never stops being grainy no matter how you EQ it (I'm not the type to care much about grain, though, but it is nice to not have it, like with the discontinued T90's midrange)

[@martinalarconcarbajal417]

With the EQ that you show in one of your links?

[@mickael486]

My $200 DAC/AMP doesn't have an EQ. And I plan on mostly listening to music and the occasional movie? Should I look elsewhere? I'm concerned about sibilant sound when turned up.

[@ixoye56]

@@mickael486 You can use free EQ apps for Windows

[@supermetal990]

Bought my 770 250 ohm over 10 or 12 years ago and using them on a daily basis, for guitar practice, recording, mixing, gaming and at work for daily google meetings. Sound and build quality is just fantastic, they still look and sound as good as new. Simply the best headphones out there, there is no competition, for me at least. Can't imagine buying something else.

[@eccentricworx]

I thought so too for 15 years. The 770s were unbeatable until i couldn't get the bass and kick right in a mix i was doing. Then i bought the 880s, then the 990s, now on Sundara`s. I have to say every step was a step forward. Only use them for tracking these days.

[@MrNexangelus]

wow 10+years thank you for info 👍

[@daveg.9720]

15 yrs here. all great until i tried a pair of audeze LCD2 and focal clears. they are now in the cubboard for tracking and recordings duties

[@valdir7426]

@@MrNexangelus I had one pair died after around 10 years; on my second pair going also into 10 years and still strong since I took better care of it. A few pieces are failing over time but beyer sells every piece in this headphones that could break separateley (the plastic pieces that hold the cans; the pads; the headband pad; the cable...)

[@valdir7426]

@@daveg.9720 which means basically you got to multiply the price but 8 or 10 to find something you liked better. I know focal make great monitor speakers so I'm curious to test their headphones.

[@RdandTrk1]

I just got these a few weeks ago at the time of this comment. I own a lot of these $150 ish headphones including the M50X, K371, HD 560S. I also own the HD6XX. Of all of these, it is my opinion that the DT770 is technically superior. It soundstages way better than any of these, and has the best detail and separation out of the lot. I'm really more of a speaker guy so that's where my bias lies. That being said, these headphones, to me, are the most speaker like of any that I own. It really is something special how wide these can feel in the soundstage without any gap. The bass doesn't feel overly boosted, but is definitely there. I also don't get any of the treble harshness from these that Beyers are known for. To be fair, I do have 41 year old ears that have endured quite a bit of loud music listening. Bottom line, these are outstanding. I'm really surprised by this and have a hard time admitting it, but I think they are better than the HD6XX. This could easily be someone's first, last and only pair of headphones.

[@marhensa]

what Ohm did you choose? 32 or 80? I want to use it for everyday usage (Laptop/Smartphone) with dongle dac (2 and 4 vrms).

[@RdandTrk1]

@@marhensa I went with the 80 ohm version, but I also run dedicated amplification. I started with the 250 Ohm version, but they didn’t have enough bass for my tastes. If I were just running a dongle dac, I might spring for the 32 Ohm version, but that’s just a guess. I haven’t heard what they sound like.

[@marhensa]

@@RdandTrk1 I want to choose the 32 ohm.. but the pad is somekind of plastic leather, not velour pad like 80 ohm and 250 ohm. I have M50X, the pads are deteriorated like a hobo right now, I think I don't want that. so if I choose 80 ohm, I need proper DAC/AMP (desktop class) to runs it? not just dongle DAC (even it's 4 vrms)?

[@RdandTrk1]

@@marhensa I know what you mean about the M50X. I’m on my second set of pads with it, so I can see why the pads of the 32 Ohm DT 770 would be a turn off for you. My guess is that you’ll be just fine with the 80 Ohm version. If you have Amazon available, or something like it with a simple return policy, I’d say try it and see. If your setup gives you satisfactory volume levels then great! If not, return it and get the 32 Ohm version.

[@marhensa]

@@RdandTrk1 I live in a country where return policy because of unsatisfactory is not exist, only broken thing could be returned. okay thank you for the information and recommendation. I guess I'll get the 80 ohm then.. also I think eventualy I will buy desktop grade DAC/AMP at some point in the future, so 80 ohm it is.

[@chefsteve8381]

Chrono's such a honest dude, i enjoy his casual unedited reviews.....

[@HOAXohmy]

My DT 770 pro (80 ohm) are still going strong after 17 years of daily use, have changed the Ear Pads 5 times and the top leather strap once

[@h-dawg6462]

and......? do you want a medal? better still, just buy another pair and wear them like a bra!!

[@HOAXohmy]

@@h-dawg6462 you have a problem ?

[@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather]

DT770 250 ohm deserves more praise, in my opinion. Another bonus is that it scales very well with better amps, and it sounds amazing on tube amps. I've also got the DT770 600 ohm, which sounds completely different (much more neutral with less bass). I've got much more expensive headphones (LCD-X and HD650), yet I keep coming back to the DT770. I can't think of a better closed-back headphone at this price.

[@nhk403]

In this price range for closed back neutral, the AKG 553 or 371 aren't bad alternatives. But no one can beat the comfortable pads of Beyer. You got any recommendations on some tube amps?

[@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather]

@@nhk403 I need to try out those AKGs. My budget tube amp choice would have to be the Darkvoice. There's also the Bottlehead Crack tube amp that's pretty affordable (it's a DIY build). I'm currently rocking some vintage General Electric (6AS7) and RCA (6SN7) tubes with my Darkvoice. You've definitely got to tube roll, it makes a huge difference. You can find tubes that sound the best for you and match them to each pair of headphones. My tubes bring up the midrange of the DT770, open up the soundstage, and give it a really nice lively sound (my HD650 also sounds much better with those tubes compared to the stock tubes). I may eventually purchase a higher priced tube amp, but I see no reason to at this time, since I'd rather just buy more tubes to try!

[@nhk403]

@@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather Thanks for the Darkvoice recommendation. I've had my eye on it for a while, but now that you've told me which tubes to get and that they work on your 770s and your Sennheiser I'm gonna pull the trigger. I've been looking for a tube for my 600s for a while now. Cheers bro!

[@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather]

@@nhk403 Happy tube hunting!

[@gimmickmusic8827]

Agreed on the better amp part. I went from a Fulla E to an Element 3 and the difference in the quality of power for my DT 770 (250) was night and day.

[@CptMark]

Great and detailed review for a frequently misunderstood model.

[@ixoye56]

The DT 770 is undoubtedly the best value headphone on the market.

[@h-dawg6462]

bull tish!!!

[@jeremywilliam79]

I’m getting mine modded right now. Cost I think $95 and will now have a detachable 3.5mm jack taking away the one thing that bugged me about these. Moving forward I’ll be able to use them with a boom mic attachment if I want to or just straight 3.5mm cables that I can detach and put away when I’m not using them. I plan on keeping them forever. The one thing I’d disagree on is the isolation, the velour pads for me don’t isolate very well, anything with a leather style pad seems to work much better for isolation. Thanks for the video!

[@valdir7426]

you can buy different pads if you want

[@mpasistasyalanci]

I agree with you on isolation, a lot of people are giving them credit as a great isolated headphones but it is not so true. They are the headphones I’ve used the most and my main pair and I love a lot of things about them. But playing e-drums I can definitely hear the rubber pads at significant volume, I can use them for foh live mixing purposes but closer to the stage as a monitor mixer I get a lot of bleed and a low mid resonance inside the headphones, etc. Sometimes this “ lack “of isolation is useful letting you feel and hear a bit of what’s happening around you ( hearing an amp , drums etc) in a not so coloured sound. One day for example recording a drummer and having my interface etc in the same room, we exchanged headphones with him, I gave him my dt and he gave me his vic firth. I could hear the microphone positioning with his but also he liked the dt more for him cause he could hear the drums naturally and have less volume in his ears and more of the rest of the instruments

[@kyron42]

Great review! One of the best you've done. Also one of the longest you've done.

[@gramblor1]

I was astounded by how good the DT 770 was when I received it as a Christmas gift last year. I even like it much more than the DT 990 which I bought shortly after.

[@spaceshipearth356]

It is exactly opposite in my case.

[@musicxxa6678]

I like it more than DT 1990. 1990 definitely more resolving and detail but quite different sound presentation.

[@Jason75913]

@@spaceshipearth356 I feel like Jones does, maybe partly because I'm a DT990 hater outright. I did not keep DT990 for more than a couple of weeks while DT770pro 250Ω served me for casual listening and as a music production tool for over 7 years. I use an HRM7 in the studio instead of DT770 these days. I am more of a fan of the Tesla Beyers these days as well. I particularly love T90 and T50p so far. I may go for a DT1770 later, and for sure I want a DT1990 in the future.

[@spaceshipearth356]

@@Jason75913 I just don't enjoy the close/boxy sound of DT770. But DT990 sound just right to me and it's a steal for 100-120€. Yeah, we have different ears, that's why I laugh at all these overly serious headphone debates when I read them these days. :) I am considering DT1990 as an upgrade for sure. Wanted Tesla, but tests say they aren't that good, so I am not sure, need to listen to them sometime and make my own opinion. Enjoy what you like, cheers! :)

[@christiharris292]

i've had the DT770 Pro 80ohm for a little over a year. I use them for my podcast editing. They pair nicely for music with my ifi gryphon.

[@arit1893]

Do they need amp??

[@christiharris292]

Yes the gryphon is a DAC/AMP with both 4.4 and 3.5 output

[@123456789million]

One of the best headphones ever made. I have a 2021 LCD-X and I still go back and listen to my 770s because they are so good at blocking outside noise.

[@satwikmahapatra9079]

Finally a review on my year old headphones. Always love to hear praise for the DT770, helps me keep my hand out of my pocket XD.

[@Jason75913]

DT770 is an upgrade over the Shure SRH1540 and Focal Listen Pro as well (if only because those two are overpriced), so you can argue that they "punch above their weight" depending on what you compare to DT770. Hang on to it.

[@Themanthatisi]

I just got the new limited edition ones with detachable cable, my only closed backs and love them.

[@JennyDarukat]

I picked up a DT770 sometime last year specifically because it's such a good technical performer and I wanted to see what some modding could do for it and wow, it may be my favourite overall headphone under 300 with just a little love in the form of rear damping to tame the hotness up top and even things out a little more. Hotdamn.

[@ResolveReviews]

I should try that on ours!

[@JennyDarukat]

@@ResolveReviews I'd offer to ship mine on over to compare but considering the Atlantic Ocean (and likely you guys' production schedule), maybe some pictures will have to do - are your Twitter DMs open?

[@ResolveReviews]

@@JennyDarukat They should be!

[@Cyliano]

@@JennyDarukat I'd also like to see how you modded them!

[@AudioHead809]

@@JennyDarukat I don’t have twitter but am curious to what you did as well. Love the dt770 but don’t use it for music. A tad too bright.

[@musicxxa6678]

LEGENDARY. They are my babies.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

just got my dt 770pro 250, 16 hours ago, haven't taken them off so far :)

[@fishbarbeque8540]

Ill get mine next week if my paycheck comes lol.

[@MarijkeWillemsen990]

I use the 770 pro, 80 ohms, the sound resembles the best my speakers. Great soundstage and comfort. Closed system but not fatiguing, also on higher levels, Great detailed bass, a s not muddy. I use an 60 watt rotel amplifier. I sent tne 250 ohm version back, not enough bass for me.

[@larryknicks]

There’s another issue with the plastic slider bits. They can crack over time so you may need to replace them in the future. I have mine and they still sound great!

[@Jason75913]

Mine never cracked or took any damage in close to 8 years before selling it off in favor of a Pioneer HRM7. I think the issue, in your case, might have been how you handle your headphone or your plastic slider bits were defective from the start, which is something to watch out for.

[@dnch]

mine cracked too.. after couple of years.. and quite heavy duty use including djing.. yeah that part could be designed / manufactured better, but they are so good im buying them again

[@valdir7426]

it is to be noted that they're sold separatately for cheap and easy to replace; as every part of this headphones that could break (the cable is a bit trickier but it's doable as well)

[@CapaNoisyCapa]

The DT770 Pro is the first "real" headphones to a lot of people. My first one was back in 97/98. And you find them right beside PMC studio monitors. Absolute legend. Edit: replacing a damaged cable of a DT770 is pretty simple; there are hundreds of tutorials over the internet. You can find better and cheaper velour earpads at any good instruments stores.

[@FrankVila]

Chrono... have you heard the DT 700 Pro X.. if so... what did you think of them compared to the DT 770 Pro ?

[@EliteRock]

Coincidentally the c. 3.5-4KHz suck-out is close to the cross-over point for most 2 way speakers and is a crucial part of the response for female voice. I'd guess that more often than not they'll 'recede' in the mix, literally sounding further back in the soundstage than with other 'phones. Can actually be a good thing if you dislike 'shouty' vocals, which is often how they're presented with modern (post-c. 2000), compressed/peak-limited, high-RMS (IOW 'loud') recordings/masterings.

[@JonnyParker-]

Yeah man there is nowt worse than people over using compression in their tracks it really is so horrible to listen to especially on revealing systems.

[@longkick649]

I hate this peak and am very glad that 770 is deprived of it.

[@Damianrz]

Hey Chronos I must admit that I just started enjoying your reviews and Im finding them great. Thank you dude for your magic.

[@musicxxa6678]

Finally a reviewer did justice to these legendary headphones. Perfectly matches my opinion. I owned a lot of headphones and the 770 still my babies. Soundstage and imaging is just best. It has the best soundstage and presentation i've heard including Arya. Lots of space in the soundstage and no congestion at all. Although it sounds processed compared to something like Arya which is way more transparent and raw sounding. The bass is all there without any downsides. It's deep, punches fairly nice, rumbles when needed. Mids are balanced and inoffensive. Treble is clearly elevated but never aggressive. It easily destroys Sundara for my taste. Much less fatiguing, much more spacious. I need to find higher end version of this headphone especially in terms of soundstage, presentation and imaging. It's just right. Everything makes sense. Ananda/Arya can be confusing with it's presentation. I hate when things sound congested and on top of each other. What 770 excels is it's never congested and the sound is not inside of my head. For example Sundara shouts to my eardrums but 770 soundsource is like outside of my head. I'm curious how would HE6sev2 sound with round velour pads and eq. Sundara and egg shape Hifiman's definitely very different than 770.

[@kristis3755]

Which ohm version are you using? I'm also thinking about getting Dt770 pro. I have read some reviews that sibilance is audible and I'm confused. Have you had any issues yet?

[@musicxxa6678]

@@kristis3755 I guess it depends on individuals ears. I have no issues but the treble is clearly elevated. I personally like it. 80 and 250 ohm both similar. 80 is easier to drive. I own 250 ohm version. Owned 80 ohm version before.

[@kristis3755]

@@musicxxa6678 is the treble harsh? It's bad? I'm thinking about 80ohms for myself.

[@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr]

If you want a DT770 that is a bit better, I think the Custom Cans tuning kit improves them. Comparing my stock 250 ohm pair to my 80 ohm Custom Cans modified DT770s, I find that there is a lot less of the 'plasticy' timbre that gives away the DT770 as a cheap(ish) headphone to my ears, also the 250 ohm model should have a tighter faster response than 80 ohm, I don't hear that with the tweaked 80 ohm, if anything it's the other way around.

[@valdir7426]

​@@kristis3755 I find them analytical yet great to listen to for fun. The bump in the higher treble is what sound engineers call "revealing"; it's the frequency domain where a lot of problems appear that are hard to figure out and this curve makes it easier to do so. bad recordings will be immediatly noticeable.

[@josephjvr6509]

I loved this headphone for such a long time... really special... and then I got the Akg K361 (wanted to try something supposedly less v shaped) - took a while to go from the Beyer to that... really began enjoying the the AKG - and yes I get that your ears get used to something.. but now when i go straight from the AKG to the Beyer the 770 Pro just sounds so muddy and dark... not too sure how else to explain it. I know this is subjective... but for me its sad because I had a really soft spot for the 770. Running both out of a IFI Zen btw for context.

[@tradehut2782]

Does the 361 image well?

[@Nayah9]

I own both the 770 Pro 80 ohm and the K371. The K371 has a pretty good harman tuning which in theory should be less fatiguing to listen to but in practice this isn't the case. The K371 is unfortunately held back by its TINY soundstage so everything feels like it's in the center most of the time. Mid-bass is sorely lacking so the headphone has no punch whatsoever, treble is also lacking (particularly the air) which doesn't help with the boxed-in feeling. Sub frequencies below 50hz are way too accentuated and go way over the harman target which can be painful for sub-heavy music like Psy-Trance. All of this makes for a very fatiguing and unnatural sounding headphone, even though sound resolution is good. The 770 Pro has as big a soundstage as some of the best open-back headphones out there (definitely the biggest soundstage on the market for a closed-back) which gives it plenty of room for the music to breathe and sound natural. It packs a nice punch thanks to its mid-bass presence (maybe that's why you think it sounds muddy compared to K361?) and has satisfying and airy treble (although the small 8K treble spike can be a bit annoying on certain tracks). Sound resolution is also good. As a music producer, I can easily trust the 770 Pro for mixing. I unfortunately can't say the same for the K371. Not even close. The 770 Pro truly is THE reference headphone, even with its flaws.

[@Nayah9]

@@tradehut2782 I own the K371 and the soundstage is very small. In my experience, unless an instrument is hard-panned to the right or left, everything is gonna sound squished together in the middle so not great for imaging.

[@Jason75913]

@@Nayah9 K371 needs to have polyfill added inside. You unscrew each baffle, which is what has the driver element glued to it, and add polyfill, and even amount into each cup. Almost no one is going to do this besides me, and K371 is much less muddy afterward. Then you need bigger earpads and you can kiss the small and muddy soundstage goodbye forever. I use Brainwavz HM5 v1 oval pads to this end. I'm likely the only person that does so. So K371, after all that, is a more revealing and resolving headphone than DT770pro. Both the DT and AKG need EQ as they both have wonky frequency responses, in my experience. I don't quite get the whole "Harman target" thing with K371 (not that I care in the slightest), but it has an odd FR no matter the volume level, to my ears. Still, it is somewhat of a reference closed headphone (and again, only because I modified it) for me.

[@Nayah9]

​@@Jason75913 Props to you for making the modifications you deemed necessary to make the K371 sound better to you. That's great! But I don't buy it. I seriously doubt that polyfill is going to make the headphone sound clearer. Anything you place between your ear and the driver is going to make it sound muddier. The K371 isn't muddy anyway. As I said, resolution is pretty good. It's the soundstage that's the main problem. I also doubt that changing the earpads makes any substantial difference to the soundstage (maybe a tiny bit). Cup size and driver size are what determine the width of the soundstage, and those can't be changed. Do an actual A/B comparison between your modded version and OG version and I doubt you'll hear much positive change. Either way, nothing can fix the awkward tuning of the K371 (lack of punch and air). Even EQ struggles with this I find. Don't get me wrong, this CAN be an enjoyable headphone and in some cases it has its place, but for most applications the 770 Pro is just better.

[@jari121]

I agree. I have DT 990 250 Ohm and Revox 3100 (better old DT 880 600 Ohm) in addition to these. Of these, I have always liked the DT 770 80 Ohm the most and the DT 990 250 Ohm the least. Nowadays, I use the AKG K 371 headphones the most, and it's nice to listen to them alternately with the DT 770.

[@spaceshipearth356]

I like my dt990pro better. I don't know why people prefer dt770pro. The sound is boxy.

[@loucipher7782]

@@spaceshipearth356 sound isnt boxy lol its just closed back

[@spaceshipearth356]

@@loucipher7782 Yes, I know, that's why they suck.

[@loucipher7782]

@@spaceshipearth356 nah they dont suck, its you that need an open back lol

[@earlitymeproductionz]

Which headphone would you prefer DT770 80ohm or AKG k371? I asked because I been going to Guitar Center over the span of two months exchanging 6 different headphones. I finally settled on the AKG k371 because they're the best sounding in my budget that they carry. Ive been wanting the DT770 80 ohm for a long time because of all the great things I've heard. I want to use them for mixing and strictly for music production. Is there a big difference between the two?

[@philjy1683]

I've had the DT 770 250ohm for 11yr now. I also have AKG 701, HD650, Denon D2000 and the 770 is my favorite. And the price is very fair for it's performance.

[@NintenPizza]

Have you compared the DT770's to the Aeon 2 Noire by any chance. I plan on upgrading to the DCA E3's myself. :D

[@NintenPizza]

@residentzero HD650's are an open back though. Try out the DCA 'E3''s if you want an amazing closed back.

[@SwampySi]

there is a reason most recording studios use the DT770 Pro.. I love mine

[@h-dawg6462]

can you provide evidence for your claim?

[@pervertt]

Bought mine after seeing Katie Melua record in BBC studios wearing a pair. Against advice from a headphone guru who warned me they are too bright. Very happy with the DT770; these would have to be the most comfortable headphones I’ve owned. And I did not find them bright at all.

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

I think that the only reason why studios use them is because you a can buy spare parts for them

[@kurono1822]

dt770 and m50x both shine when equalized, I love the fact that they sound really good despite being closed-back and are great for average music listening sessions while reading or working.

[@skrble]

Would you mind sharing your EQ preset? Most of them are Harman or alike, which I hate.

[@musicxxa6678]

They are nothing alike. 770 is significantly superior.

[@saricubra2867]

The DT770 Pro destroys the M50X in sound quality.

[@genaishivatov1737]

The Sennh HD650 (despite their price) strongly cut through the Beyer DT770 - they mainly have mid-bass, which fits on the lower mids, very modest treble and mids with a slight touch of synthetics (especially noticeable on the piano). The 770s have a collected, lower bass that does not pretend to be a midrange, a verified middle (especially with leather earpads from Brainwavz) and insanely beautiful, noble, with air and treble overtones (which I still have not seen even in very expensive IEMs ) - and all this for 130 euros + 25 for earpads !!!

[@heavynova]

If you combine these with a Centrance hifi M8 class A portable dac/amp, these are the perfect gear for a winter storm. Keeps your ears warm, put the M8 in the inside your parka and you essentially have a space heater

[@JonnyParker-]

class

[@vap0rtranz]

Pronounced bae-er, not buy-er. Good to see this reviewed still for those of us in 2nd-hand market. Vielen Dank!

[@TheYuhasz01]

Good headphones for critical listening…. Closed back and good value. Take modest EQ well

[@lotog692]

Hi I'm looking at the DT770 pro and tried to decide, whether I should get the 80 ohms or the 250 ohms version. Beyerdynamic states, that they use slightly different driver constructions (80 ohms: overhang voicecoil, 250 (and 32 btw) ohms: underhang voicecoil). The 80 ohms is constructed for higher pitch levels rather than sound quality (Beyerdynamic words, not mine) for special studio situations. And the 80 ohms is supposed to have higher distortion and less detail. Now that might explain, why it works good with tubes, but is it really better than the 250 ohms version ? Because I don't need higher pitch levels, I'd probably want better sound quality, because I'll use it in a home environment (with headphone amp). Can somebody confirm these claims by Beyerdynamic (or deny, or show graphs or ...) ?

[@rtrtrtrt4790]

hello im prlly late but ive heard 80 and 250 ohms both 770s and 990s (it was 3 months ago) and i sincerely think 80 ohm versions are just fuckn better cuz they have more detail .idk how but with 80 ohm ones i just could hear more. 80vs250 ohm 770 bass wise im not sure, 770 80 just had right good amount of it i found 250 ohm 770 (&990) to just be BORING. the sound was less "focused" (the best word to describe) and in complicated music the quiet sounds in the background were mercilessly overshadowed by the loud ones (like lead melody and drums) , whereas 80 ohm versions are just not like that. i personally own 990s 250 ohm version and i think i made a huge mistake buying the 250 ohm. i eqed them desperately trying to make it sound like 80 ohm (in which i could hear quiet "pads" in my music easily) but it didn't work. like the 80 ohm drivers are just more capable of producing many sounds at once🤷🏽 and one last important note, there IS a friggin big unit variance between same beyerdynamics. i tried 2 990s 250 and the first one was very bassy, warm and not bright while the second one was bright and had noticeably less bass. and they both imo (along with 250 770 too) had comparatively poorly detailed sound compared to 80 ohm 990 and 80 ohm 770. after all i highly recommend you to listen to them by yourself in a store if you have this opportunity P.S. yes i was using an amp and dac COMBO while testing them (ifi hip dac/ibasso dc03 for dac + ifi zen can/schiit mangi 3 for amp)

[@twoften]

Man, I'm happy you're happy, but this just really drives home for me how different peoples ears and tastes are. I own both the 80 and 250 ohm versions, and while I agree with you on build and driver quality, the tuning is where we part ways. I was listening to this review (audio only) in the car on the way home from work and found myself yelling "no it isn't!" at the dash several times. 🤣

[@b3asle551]

Which do you prefer? What do you find the differenence to be? Thanks

[@twoften]

@@b3asle551 The 80 is *slightly* softer all around, which is better for that treble plateau, but less good for the bass. It can be powered by a phone, but not to the kind of spl some might prefer. The 250 will work with an OTL amp if that's your thing, and the coiled cable is great for desk use. It is the snappier sounding of the two imo. Otherwise they're identical.

[@musicxxa6678]

Yeah it might be a driver variation but i heard couple of 80 and 250 ohms the difference is that 80 ohm version sounds a bit bloated/loose. 250 ohm version sound a bit tighter and little brighter. 80 ohm one bounce more.

[@guitarman22222222]

Thank you...good review...what is the eq thing about? New to this, Rob

[@totizedger]

I know that every pair differs but i find mine to lack midbass and that's obvious when compared to my Sennheiser HD660S which i know has a slightly elevated midbass but my impression on every song is that there is no punch in the midbass, i personally am a bit bothered by the treble so EQ for me is a must and with EQ they are pretty nice

[@towsifshahriarshovo]

Now in their website (beyerdynamic) have new dt 770 32 ohm versions with different pads. Please review those

[@hellyeah_tv]

hi for everyone! I owned 770/250 and they are cool. but! mid frequancies are suppressed by bass. use low shelf before 100 Hz on -2db. then bump up +2db on 200 Hz and +3db on 4kHz. all that will balance the sound to the very-very high level for music listening. audio engeneers uding them mostly for recording people cos' they really goo built and angry singer doesn't smash them throgh the wall after 50 failed take from the first throw)) and its good for searching problems in bass and high area for precise equalisation. I tried to play guitar on them but much easier to buy 880s cos' they already have the right frequency response for that proposes))

[@h-dawg6462]

if you have to fix headphones with corrective eq how are they "cool" exactly?!?

[@randomdudeman4782]

Yup, the DT770 is underrated. I feel like the bad rep of Beyers in general kinda rubs off on the 770 and it's very much undeserved. For $150 you will struggle to find a better closed headphone, especially when you also factor in durability. The 770 is built like a tank and will last for years. The sound is a bit V-shaped, the bass is a bit loose and the treble can be sharp, but crucially the midrange tuning is good. The technical performance is surprisingly capable, the driver is clearly good and punches well above its pricepoint. With a bit of EQ it sounds very nice in general A classic headphone that has been around for decades and hopefully will be around for decades more.

[@Jason75913]

250Ω version has the better bass, if paired with any good desktop amplifier. Then, due to Beyerdynamic's loose manufacturing tolerances, the bass can be even tighter if you get a "golden sample" DT770, so some folks get to enjoy rock-solid bass that nothing else beats at under $300.

[@abeedhal6519]

Bad reputation of beyer? Why would they have a bad rep?

[@Jason75913]

@@abeedhal6519 they don't, he's probably going by a few negative opinions he read on the web, unrepresentative of Beyerdynamic's reputation

[@abeedhal6519]

@@Jason75913 yeah that got me a bit confused, besides the lack of detachable cables the lower priced beyers might be the best on the market

[@damienhenderson563]

im about to buy these dt770 32 ohm i heard great reviews about them.😊

[@LIL-MAN_theOG]

So, is it 2015 again? Did this review come from the past and I'm just missing it?

[@opiekrumpus4182]

Use for movies and WOW the sound is so good. Use with a Ocean Bravo tube amp very pleased with results.

[@g.fortin3228]

Nice video .. are you EQ' ing with just bass/treble or are you using a multi-band EQ when playing from home audio/cd ??? I am wondering if i should think about getting an EQ. Been using bass/treble with other phones with ok results but just ordered these 770's in 250ohm.

[@miaobinhuang2315]

Do I need amp/dac for 80ohm and what would you recommend.

[@stipsazg]

This was never a HiFi or audiofile headphone. Instead it is meant for the studio environment. They do not even try to be gentle and polite.

[@dontbeedgy]

I mean the audeze lcd 2 and x are classified as a studio headphone

[@smolbo1]

@@dontbeedgy audiophiles love them and arent as widely used as dt 770 pro for studio use

[@garygarlucialuciani9794]

@@dontbeedgy So are the audio technica m40x and m50x, as well as the Beyer 700 pro x and 990prox. It's marketing. If you sell headphones as studio monitors and enough studio producers or musicians use them, then they're accepted as studio monitors. Basically you can call any headphone a studio monitor.

[@SunnyAustria]

Thx Stipsa. Thought the Same on the dt 990 Review. Its a Tool to find errors in your Recording. Not a Hifi Product. Its like, i bought a Diesel Car for Short distances but the Battery is really bad 😂

[@valdir7426]

on my second pair now been using them for more than 20 years and each time I look up alternatives it feels like I already got the best. It's not easy to find places to try alternatives but everything I've tried below 500 bucks has been disapointing compared to these. I'd like to try to 1770 but don't hear great things about them. Also there's a reason that EVERYBODY I know in the music/recording field has this pair of headphones (it's almost comical how ubiquitous they are.)

[@h-dawg6462]

....and the reason is they are now all deaf! it's comical how over-hyped these train wreck of a treble-boosted mess these hp's are! seriously, the 1770's will sound bad if you like 770's.....because they are tonally correct!!!

[@sabermajora408]

I used to rock the xbox wireless headset for my pc, then bought the 250 ohm one on sale for $130. Best headset ive ever used

[@avik9661]

Hi, im doing the same change right now, just that i got the 80ohms version, but how did you manage to get a good bass? i feel thet the xbox headsets had good bass, it was kinda boosted and stuff, but i dont feel that bass with the 80ohms 770s

[@pliedtka]

I wonder how the new DT 700X fares against the 770. Or the Rode new closed back.

[@zoltantoth1566]

Next please make a video debate with Resolve about the technical performance of these Beyers. Because he said that it is nothing special and much below Sennheiser HD 600. By the way: nice video, i really liked it, thank you.

[@ResolveReviews]

Chrono addressed much of that in the comment pinned to this video.

[@orphanuprising]

I almost bought these, but the relatively short unremovable cable was a big deal-breaker for me.

[@rayngrace]

Thanks for the Review. Curious if you have a Travel Case for them.

[@malcolmlagares8245]

Excellent review. Thank you. : )

[@mickael486]

Good video. I think I'm going to clink that link but being nervous as my $200 DAC/AMP doesn't have an EQ. (SMSL C200 which is similar to the Topping Dx3 pro +) And I plan on mostly listening to music and the occasional movie. I know you said without EQ they're still good but I like it loud. I'm concerned about sibilant sound when turned up.

[@patrickmartineau1008]

I just put the Dekoni "choice leather" pads on these and I'm very much enjoying them.

[@joecaner]

I purchased a DT-770 for tracking together with an HD600 for critical listening and I had to returned them because the highs were so harsh and forward, I couldn’t trust what they were telling me. It’s too bad too. The Beyerdynamic are beautiful and look like they can handle some rough treatment because they are built like a tank. I just wished they sounded as durable as they looked. I also wish I could find closed back headphones that are in the immediate sonic vicinity of the HD600’s. Those things cut through and one can really hear what’s going on. On the other hand, lots of folk love the DT-770 so it must be doing something special for them, so, it might very well be more your thing.

[@auroranamex5886]

Very comfy, but man, the sound pressure and treble are huge, these just kill my hearing. Not recommended for mixing. Now Im thinking about getting 990/880 + correction eq.

[@dontbeedgy]

get them customized by custom cans audio and compare them to the stock dt770

[@blanchedesmas]

This One or the Sennheiser HD560S? Il have difficulty to make a final choice. I listen all Kingston of Music, except for the POP. Thank you.

[@wearenotalone98]

Yeah, i'm having trouble choosing between those 2 as well

[@tether23]

Any of you lads decided on a pair yet?

[@wearenotalone98]

@@tether23 i actually decided to go for the 700 pro x

[@MrNexangelus]

Thanks for info 👍

[@7quidstudio]

Love how these sounded but mine blew after only a year or so. Could it be the bass button on my ifi zen dac coupled with boom audio eq? Or was I just unlucky? I feel like they should've lasted longer (although I do listen loud). I've replaced with focal listen pros but now I'm afraid that they'll meet the same fate! 🤣

[@GadZookz]

Thanks Chrono! Any plans to review the new Beyerdynamic TWS buds?

[@TheHEADPHONEShow]

We don't have those at the moment so they're not on the radar, but I'll keep an eye out.

[@geniussnake497]

I've got the 250 ohm version, connected to a Fosi Audio Q4 mini DAC - would I get better performance from a better DAC/AMP?

[@JonnyParker-]

Chord Electronics hugo tt2 is endgame DAC/headphone amp. It is insane honestly dude.

[@LordOfSweden]

Which other headphones did you mention in the end? I cannot hear what you say

[@sogent56]

Would you recommend the 80 ohm for the zoom h6 and the zoom L8. I’m a gigging drummer.

[@Frizzyy]

should i get the 32 ohms version if i want to use them on my pc without a amplifier ?

[@SlavJerry]

80 ohms works fine on pc and phone

[@saricubra2867]

​@@SlavJerryHalf the volume, the 32 Ohm is really loud.

[@loucipher7782]

why my newly bought DT770 looks different? at the bottom of each side of the headband mine had the Beyerdynamic word with L and R for the direction while this video had the big logo and brand name ?

[@melaniezette886]

It's just the new logo of the brand.

[@RobHTech]

I just got 990 Pro Limited Black 250 Ohm with KnoxGear amp. They are lacking bass and SPL; just not enough bass and don't get loud enough. They have 100mW power handling max. I can't EQ the bass without the headphones distorting. Will the 770 Pro be better in this regard: Listening to Techno daily, and need more bass and SPL. I suppose in this regard I am SPL > SQ, but still want good SQ. Or, would something like V-Moda M100 or HDJ-X7 or X10 be better? Also, the 990 Pro are the most comfortable headphone I have ever worn. And, I wear glasses, so that matters a lot. --I forgot too that I wear the headphones for hours on end, like 5+ hours at varying volumes, typically blasting at times. I'm coming from the MDR-7506.

[@royalrepublican3480]

had mine for 3 years and never replaced the pads, and my ears are not touching

[@garygarlucialuciani9794]

What about the infamous Beyer peak? The graph you showed doesn't reveal it. The graphs on rtings, done with the hats dummy head and ear, show the 770 to have the same 10db- 12db peak as the dt880, dt990, and dt1990.

[@CM-dw3gh]

Another vid mentioned the cable to be too short. Would have been nice to mention this especially being un-detachable

[@cassiuswest]

Anyone know if the 1/4” adapter it comes with is good? Ideally with the Focusrite 2i2 3rd gen?

[@TheRistie1]

First ever pair of cans I brought , I still use today. The cable though has to be the worst for tangling.

[@marcosd9636]

How or what are you guys playing music on with the dt770 ?

[@paulwoaert]

Why prefer closed 770 to open 990 ? Also, it would be desirable to indicate what type of music you listen to on your headphones, becauseA lot of bass is only good for really ordinary and primary music (poor harmonically, using ready-made electronic assistance, etc.), rap music for example. On the other hand, for more rich music, harmonically complex, with a lot shades and a writing structuraly very developed, etc., whether it be a quartet by Beethoven or Berg, a sonata by Prokofiev, Boulez, Glass, or jazz from the great period (Oscar Peterson, Coltrane, Brubeck, etc.) the accentuation of the bass is a sign of an absolute lack of taste (in my opinion). Open headphones have a more natural sound (and not artificially enhanced), more faithful to the instruments, even for the voice. I currently have at home the Beyerdynamic 770 pro (into 80 ohms) and the 990 pro (in 80 ohms also). The music is still very good with the 770, but you can still feel a slight added effect (a bit like surround if i can use this image). The closed 770 is ideal for watching movies. The 990 is better for music with a real natural feel like you'd hear with a real quartet in front of you, is superb (and still has plenty of bass, he is not flat).

[@devontoner]

Sadly my dt770 pro cable split the casing after a couple years of daily use and it's still so stiff that I can't get it to be straight. In Z Reviews parlance, it's janky and never won't be. I will be saving mine with a dual 3ntry 3.5mm mod. They're great otherwise, I just wish they'd revise the headphones with a detachable cable by default, even if it wouldn't be balanced just having a $10 braided dual 3.5mm aux cable (like cable creations on amazon) would be an insane upgrade

[@Ryu.Shooting]

Should I get this or the sundara closed?

[@Eaulive]

I probably will get flak from this but I just purchased a pair (80ohms version) from amazon and returned them right of the bat. They sound good, are super comfortable but as soon as you want a little more volume or if your material is bass heavy, they distort in an awful way, I tried two receivers and an hedphone amplifier with a lot of output capability, same thing. I compared the DT770 PRO 80 ohms with a pair of M-Audio Q40 (65 ohms) and theres no comparison, the M audio can destroy your hearing without distortion. on the same amp/setup while the BD distorts heavily at 25% of the SPL of the M-audio. Granted, at low volume they sound awesome, but don't you dare ask for a little more power. Maybe, just maybe, there was a bad batch?

[@IrOnCuRtAiN61]

With only a 100mW of power and 96dB sensitivity, that has to be expected. I think a 250-ohm version would be more logical for that kind of output without distortion, or any risk of damaging the headphone.

[@Peter_Cetera]

I got the DT770 and DT990. There is nothing better for the money.

[@safugim5526]

My guy, these or Sennheiser HD 560S for gaming ?

[@_thewidow_]

just bought DT770 pro 80 ohm directly from beyerdynamic in germany and it arrived and has a weird crackling noise, i payed full price and not the B-ware (refurbished) and i'm honestly sad as fuck because I've been using the dt 240 pro for a while and was very happy with them and they still work but i wanted more comfort. still waiting for their response.

[@melaniezette886]

Love it, but some hate Beyer signature because of trebles

[@melaniezette886]

Isolation plus V shape makes it perfect to listen at low volume

[@AdrianIII]

32 ohm? 80 ohm? 250 ohm? Differences in sound quality?

[@Jason75913]

32 ohm = muddy with boomy bass 80 ohm = less muddy and more resolving 250ohm = higher fidelity, tighter sound The extra boom in the 80ohm and 32ohm makes them seem like they have more bass, but as far as I know, they should measure the same amount of bass. 80ohm and 250ohm sound best with desktop gear, like the Monoprice Liquid Spark stack or Schiit stack. All versions may annoy you with their 10kHz treble peaks and 5kHz upper midrange boosts.

[@kyron42]

How does it compare to the 177X GO and the Elex?

[@dudearlo]

i see these headphones everywhere :D

[@srinathsatya]

Good review

[@JTB--]

Excellent Review... But How Dare You Sell your Camphor Burl Verite Closed!! How Dare You!!

[@chrono-headphonereviews242]

With this ampsandsound Forge chilling on my desk, I’m starting to wonder why I ever did such a thing 😂

[@JTB--]

@@chrono-headphonereviews242 I know how to wear out a joke. The ball busting is in good fun. I actually have had the Camphor Burl Verite Closed since Jan 2022 and almost had a moment of weakness and put them up for sale to help pay for something else I had on my wish list. But I resisted and thankfully kept them. I don't think there is a better closed back on the market imo after trying many other HP's. For the Rock and Hard Rock genre's I listen to anyway. Great All rounder actually. When you throw in the fact each Camphor Burl and every ZMF is a one of a kind HP and also that ZMF lifetime warranty on the drivers... you realize the VC really is an end game headphone in so many ways. I'm sure that cheered you up Chrono. How Dare You!!! 😁

[@slushy6569]

I have the other two impedance models of 770 on hand if you guys would be interested in comparing them just hit me up!

[@Isaacelijahmusic]

I’ve heard some bad reviews on here about sound going out in one ear after a short amount of time. Can anyone confirm these issues?

[@tetrisgoat]

The DT770 is all right. It's not a DT880, but the superiority of other products doesn't make this a worse one.

[@hitmarkler]

80 ohm version uses overhang voicecoil. 32 ohm and 250 ohm use underhang voicecoil. This is a major difference between these models and affects sound more than their resistance rating. 80 ohm is the least capable driver and has the most amount of thd, but it´s the best variant to drive loud (studio environment). This review is based on 80 ohm model and "hifi listening". I assure you that 250 ohm model is even more impressive 🙂👍 Also there appears to be some changes to plastics etc. in so called "2022 version" of 32 ohm model atleast. I found this out from Custon Cans KZbin channel. Maybe that's something worth of investigating?

[@kyron42]

How much better is it than the k371 before EQ and after EQ?

[@jeremywilliam79]

They’re different sound profiles. The dt770 is more lean and fast and clean with good punch in the bass. The k371 is more mush and laid back sounding with more bloated sounding bass but not in a bad way. It’s definitely a bit mushy in the bass compared to the dt770 though and doesn’t have the sound stage or imaging. That being said the k371 are good for casual listening and for me aren’t fatiguing at all where depending on your taste you may need to eq the dt770 a little in the treble area.

[@Rod95ok]

@@jeremywilliam79 the akg371 is only mushy sounding in direct comparison to the dt770. The AkG371s strong suit is that it is dead neutral (if your looking for that) and more detailed. It sounds mushy because it doesnt have the dips to seperate different regions. Ie bass-mids-treble, but technically this is more "correct". The dt 770s strong suit are imaging, soundstage, with a more "fun" (bass and treble accentuated) frequency response

[@Jason75913]

Before EQ, we're all divided on that opinion, but after EQ, DT770 is more practical due to having acoustic treatment inside of its cups, unlike K371. Helps make it more resolving. I can actually appreciate the reverbs I use on my tracks I make through DT770, which is impossible in the muddier, unmodified K371. Now I'm not the type to settle for excess cup resonances in closed headphones, most manufacturers couldn't care less about optimizing their closed designs, so all of my closed headphones have been modified. After tweaking K371 with polyfill (much like you'd find inside typical studio speaker monitors), plus replacing the original earpads with Brainwavz HM5 v1 oval pads, K371 becomes more resolving before or after EQ. The original AKG earpads are what give the headphone its "listening through a keyhole" character. A little weird.

[@jeremywilliam79]

@@Jason75913 this is awesome feedback maybe I’ll try that!

[@Деазнам]

Have/Had/Heard many headphones - Still own 880 and 1990 just for the collection cause they are great - but the 770 I dislike and sold pretty fast. 990 is close to 880 but a bit worse to my ears so I didn't keep them for long either.

[@hartyewh1]

I had a 250ohm 880 and it was fantastic with EQ for the money. Then I got a 600ohm to try and it was notably better still, but apparently that's due to unit variation, not impedance. Probably my favourite headphone at that price when EQ'd.

[@spaceshipearth356]

990pro 250 > 770pro 250 for me

[@hartyewh1]

@@spaceshipearth356 Agreed, if you don't require closed back and EQ the highs a bit at least or are no longer sensitive to them.

[@Jason75913]

@@hartyewh1 unit variation exists, yes, but DT880 600Ω IS higher res, in my experience, though I would not know why, some speculate because of the 600Ω's lighter voice coil

[@hartyewh1]

@@Jason75913 I know there's a measurable difference between the 32ohm and the two others, but for the difference to be so massive it must be unit variation as well. It was really night and day.

[@DingleberrryDan]

Our EQs are very similar. Only thing is I leave dAt BaSs alone and fill in 3750 Hz by +2.5 dB Q 5. I like turtles.

[@ArturoRamirezBello]

hello friend, i loose my id of headphones beyerdinamic, can you help me to share please ?

[@christopherj8766]

Have a pair of these, they sound horrible on my qudelix 5k unless major eq is applied. They sound miles better (but way softer) on my tablet and older phones, I'm hoping the hip dac will bring out the best performance they have to offer.

[@Jason75913]

I would recommend the Schiit Magni + Modi stack or Monoprice Liquid Spark stack for best sound from DT770.

[@BlissCities]

I only had a dac using the DT770 pro 80ohms and they sounded like the volume was so low then when I got me an amp I was blown away with the sound these produce

[@tendousj]

Is it good for classical jazz and acoustic?

[@melaniezette886]

Some say it's to V shape. Maybe because I'm old and listen at moderate level I love their sound. And as said by others they sound wide, spacious what is very important to me. If you can Eq it to your taste they give lot of pleasure

[@mfdoom808]

I can't stand the ear piercing highs on my DT770 without eq. Are beyerdynamic engineers old guys with high frequency hearing loss?

[@Raul.Sharma]

Sir, first of all you do a great job of reviewing headphones, dacs and amps. My request is, would it be possible for you to review Chord mojo 2 dac? It is highly praised in audiophile community, is it really that good?