The Battle of Barnet | Wars of the Roses

[@Michael-ws7rc]

Well done as usual, thanks

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@NobleKorhedron]

Im watching on mobile,​@TheHistoryChap , and in the first minute, the link doesn't appear - have you checked it on a desktop/laptop?

[@deborahmorgan6848]

Excellent speaker, really enjoyed this.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you thanks

[@fredazcarate4818]

With the exception of a Elizabethan gentleman standing for Warwick The king Maker. I thoroughly enjoyed your mini documentary. kudos sir. Bless you for presenting an excellent narrative on The War Of The Roses.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks. kzbin.info

[@Stephen-gp8yi]

The most in-depth account of the battle I’ve heard so thanks✌️

[@TheHistoryChap]

I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Please make sure to subscribe for future videos. kzbin.info Chris

[@michaelcharlton8896]

Another fantastically recounted snippet of our incredibly interesting history! I always enjoy your videos! Thanks very much for another great one! I’ll watch the next one as soon as I’ve watched this one….

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words. If you haven't already, please make sure to subscribe for future videos. Working on more this very week! kzbin.info

[@cathy35210]

Supplementing my reading of Phillipa Gregory with your videos cheers

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching

[@patcullen9304]

My sister used to live in Barnet, me and one of my nephews took a walk and discovered a comemaration plaque, it was an eye opener, plus I found £20, I shared it with my nephew

[@TheHistoryChap]

Long time since I’ve been to Barnet.

[@garygreer1983]

Great commentary! I am a miniature wargamer with WoR armies and have fought the battles you recount. Very enjoyable!👍🍁😥

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed.

[@Jonthefooddon]

I reckon I would destroy your garrison at WoR, drop me a message lad. It is time Lancaster took back Barnet from them Yorkies

[@ANNSHORT-h5f]

Absolutely brilliant Chris. Please tell us……. What side would you have been on? Who really in your opinion had the better claim to the throne? I look forward to seeing/hearing many more of your KZbins.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Great question I never really considered it before. Gut feel is the house of York.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

One of my favorite times in history.

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@the5thmusketeer215]

If you really like The Wars of the Roses, then - if you don’t already have it - I strongly recommend picking up a copy of a classic old board-game called “Kingmaker”, in which players play the part of the competing Noble factions who variously fought for the Lancastrian or Yorkist sides. What makes the game so compelling (& infinitely replayable), is that the Royal Family members from each house are mere passive “pawns” in this game, who have no independent role whatsoever. Each player starts off with a number of randomly assigned Nobles, who have numbers of troops & castles belonging to them, in proportion to how powerful that noble was. The controlling player may also recruit paid mercenaries & acquire ships & they move their forces about the countryside & or along the coast, seeking to acquire whichever member or members of the two Royal Families it best suits their ambitions to support. These members may be physically escorted & transported to a Cathedral (if not successfully intercepted by a rival faction as a result of a battle!) & CROWNED there, provided they are next in line to the throne of their House… & by acquiring the throne, whosever faction enabled them to be crowned, may then dish out prestigious high offices to his own nobles or to those of other players’ factions, as a way of forging (often fickle & short-lived… or longer term) alliances. These offices come with benefits (such as additional troops or castles) but also liabilities (the holder of that office can occasionally or frequently get called away to different parts of the country, in response to historical events dictated by chance cards, for example…) thereby making it difficult to keep a superior combined army in the field, as individual nobles (& their associated troops) get drawn away at the most inopportune times, sometimes to locations where they may be vulnerable to being set upon by a superior rival faction… The individual members of the two Royal Families may also be assassinated by any player who captures them & it is sometimes expedient to do so, to prevent a rival faction from crowning the next in line to the rival Royal House, if one already controls the opposing Royal House. These changing fortunes & the significant effects of realistic, historically themed chance cards, as well as the outcomes of inter-factional battles, the bribery & coercion opportunities provided by dishing out prestigious Offices & so forth… all combine to recreate the treacherous ebb & flow of events that were the hallmark of that very bloody period of history & make every game absolutely unique & very unpredictable, yet also very rewarding for those who play shrewdly & make the most of the opportunities that come their way, while also weathering the inevitable misfortunes that can also strike at the MOST inopportune times… 🤦🏻‍♂️ DO check out the game if you do not already have it. It’s absolutely brilliant when enjoyed by a few players who are appreciative of its rich historical flavour, is almost always available on EBay & even writing about it just now - after watching another brilliant presentation on the Wars of the Roses by Chris, has made me want to dig it out of my extensive & eclectic Board-game collection & play it again, after a hiatus of many years. Cheers & Kind Regards ~ LOUIS C.

[@guignardiere]

Hmmm! Elizabeth Woodville's mother was Jacquetta of Luxembourg and formerly the Duchess of Bedford. ( John, Duke of Bedford was Henry the Sixth's uncle and Regent for him in France before his death)

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@nicford]

That portrait of Warwick looks like a gentleman from circa 1590.

[@TheHistoryChap]

16th century imaginary portrait.

[@BillyFrench]

Found out Sir William Fiennes 2nd lord is a distant grandfather of mine and died at the Battle of Barnet. Thats how i ended up here. Thank you!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching and for sharing your information

[@lokischildren8714]

A excellent video

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

[@funstuff2006]

2:42 'Like running off to the Elvish chapel in Vegas' **Tolkien fans googling furiously because they hadn't heard of this before**

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you liked 😀

[@leeboy26]

Things got a bit hairy at Barnet, you might say.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Oh no! I knew that comment was coming! :)

[@Baskerville22]

I think Edward feared Warwick's power if the Percy's lands were added to his own. Allowing the Percys to retain their lands kept 2 powerful potential threats to Edwards rule, divided. Question: When Edward fled to Burgundy, why didn't he take Henry ( 6 ) with him or kill him ?

[@TheHistoryChap]

You make a good point about the potential power of Warwick.

[@martinwarner1178]

This video is brilliant, the presenter is so good, that now, he's my favourite History fellow. But, take heed, fellow watchers, have no part of our rulers urges for action, be it at Barnett, or Ukraine, or any other place. Peace be unto you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

:)

[@youknow227]

You might like to know my work experience was at the Barnet museum They've got a few arrows from the battle, but apparently the guy who found them didn't say where he'd found them There's also cannonballs, a sword, a massive WW2 bomb, a baby gas mask, and an asylum door Also a suit of armour

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & for your interesting feedback

[@lonnietoth5765]

This is why the Chinese and Japanese ancient warriors wore bright colored uniforms and each guy had a unit recognition flag hanging on his back like a " Eat at Joes" sign . You knew who the other guys were . We are in bright red and they are in bright yellow , stab the guys in yellow , right ? Another thing is , in a Civil War , everyone speaks the same language . No body sounds foreign ? How you going to tell . If the guy sounds French , stick a sword in him , If the guys speaks German , stick a sword in him . Guy sounds like he's from England ???? Even our early Civil war days , southern men wore their Blue Army Issued uniforms until their butternut or grey uniforms were issued . I like the switching of sides , is that how you get a 100 yrs. war ?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment

[@johnschultz6731]

Nice job.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@serwombles8816]

NOT to be confused with Warwick the Wild of Lester

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ah, Black Adder to the rescue.

[@jackcatlow3716]

Small point on the Woodvilles. They were nobility . The father was made a Baron . I know the point still stands , they were lower noble upstarts .

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video and taking the time to comment.

[@davidryley4162]

I bet it was a brutal battle

[@TheHistoryChap]

Think a lot of them were.

[@thomasabrials6190]

Why didn’t Edward kill Henry before he abandoned London to Warwick and Margaret? He had Henry locked up in the tower, right?

[@LeslieDevoe]

He ended up the victim of his own manipulation. You can't play a hand on both sides and not expect to find yourself in the middle. Powerful people in a dangerous time.

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@ChuckJansenII]

I am not sure because I have not had this confirmed by a Genealogist. Family handed down information that my family descended of Richard Neville 1468-1530 who's father Sir Henry Neville born 1437 died 26 Jul 1469 Battle of Edgecote Field, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England. The trail runs cold with Henry's pappy Lord George Neville Bergevenny 1412-1476. This would descend through my mother's side. Where I have a sticking point is in the spelling of a name in my family tree that I am working to confirm or bust. It looks to me like two names of different spelling were merged into one family line that makes me have serious doubts about the authenticity of the information I have. Genealogy can be difficult because documentation mistakes or writing being unreadable. One mistake wipes out a complete set of branches. On Ancestry is where I discovered the discrepancy Advice to anyone doing any work on their family tree, take things with a pint of mead. You may get disappointed.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Charles, thanks for sharing. What a great piece of research...wherever it leads to. If you enjoyed my video then please make sure to subscribe for future videos. kzbin.info

[@ChuckJansenII]

@UCD1xgqHpDady3V8ukmHb3Kg There are sometimes when a misspelling happens due to Americanizing or Anglicizing a name. Other times there is a clerical error. I have several names that have different spellings between a generation. It is know that one spelling is it's own line but the other spelling has known changes. The problem is if someone miscalculated the name spelling wrong between these two families then a whole line can be invalidated upon investigation revealing the error. Until I have the money to hire a genealogist I can only consider the line(s) of ancestry from that point back as theoretical. Either family is famous though. I also have a contradiction in another line of a family tree where two men born only a year apart and died ten years apart may be mixed up. Not sure which is a GGF and which is GGU. They have the same exact name and both lived in Union County TN and fought in the Civil War. I can only find the record of one and he was a Union soldier. The other was, by letter, conscripted into the CSA, though I find no official record of his service during the war. No muster card or other evidence. I am hoping to make a physical visit to look up records in Tennessee. There are points on my family tree that are accurate as I have actual artifacts and previous genealogy trees. So I know where there are accurate branches and I have branches of doubt. One thing that throws off red flags is age ancestor married being too young by our standards. Eck! But we cannot judge by our standards what is already happened. We just know better now. If you ever see the parent born after the son or daughter then that is probably a branch that needs to be culled. Had that happen. Looked at other connected family trees first to see if they had more information. Went in a surgically deleted each questionable member on that branch from oldest to youngest when no one answered or confirmed the error.

[@UPTHETOWN]

Cool but archers don't fire their weapons, they shoot. Guns fire

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

[@guvdagroove]

it wasnt somerset it was john marqius montegu warwicks brother who commanded the vanguard as oxford returnd to the battlefield the 2 armies turnd so montegue thought he was hittin edward as oxfords standard was the mullet star which in the fog it looked like the sun in splender edwards standard

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for adding your knwledge.

[@robertbruce7686]

Forget "Game of Thrones"!

[@TheHistoryChap]

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