The Battle of Rorke's Drift - The Reality v the film "Zulu"

[@EricStanway-ky9ys]

My great great grandfather, Robert Jones, was at this battle and won the V.C. Sadly, he died in poverty.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Please see my response to your other comment

[@richardjohnson4238]

As a "Yank", without this movie, I likely would have never heard of the battle of Rorke's Drift. Sort of a British Alamo, but with a somewhat happier ending for the defenders. Accurate or not, I'm glad it was made. It is WAY up on my list of favorite war movies. I'm also glad there are people like you who tell the real story.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you like the film. Hope you enjoyed my video too.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Probably closer to the Siege of Fort McHenry which inspired the Star-Spangled Banner song.

[@Frankie5Angels150]

If you want to see the Little Bighorn of the British empire, look for the film “Khartoum” with Charlton Heston as Gen. “Chinese” Gordon and Omar Sharif as “The Mahdi.”

[@richardjohnson4238]

@@Frankie5Angels150 I've seen that one too. Good movie.

[@dalegallacher7074]

As an Aussie I’m impressed that your interested in wars america wasn’t in

[@RobCLynch]

My dad took me to see this movie in the early 70s and I was definitely too young to understand it. But I do remember feeling scared of the Zulus and my dad chased me through the park on the way back from the Abbie Cinema in Liverpool...I ran for my life in absolute terror. That memory takes on extra meaning and I'm pleased that this video popped up, because my dad died in early July of this year and happy memories are of the utmost importance to me now.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad it’s brought back happy memories

[@JacquelineFox-xo6jn]

As if my mum would ever let my dad. They are the perfect parents.❤❤

[@jamesbyer8321]

Keep those memories mate!

[@jimrichardson8852]

I had the privilege of touring the Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift sites in 2005, as a lifetime history buff it was an amazing experience. My guide/driver and I climbed the hill behind the mission as well.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Jim, thanks for sharing. Went there as a kid but intend to go back (when I can convince the other half!)

[@stevenwolfe7101]

Islandwana of course, preceded Rorke's Drift, and was a major defeat for the British.

[@nawyecannae53]

⁠@@stevenwolfe7101Isandlwana was a very one side battle and a complete disaster for the British. It would be much better remembered if one of the young Zulu chiefs had not wanted to attack Rorke’s Drift because he missed out on most of the action at Islandlwana. The rest of course is history. The cairns marking the dead from the first battle are numerous with many men under each cairn. Both sites are highly recommended for anyone with an interest in history and if you drive a bit more you can stand where Nelson Mandela was captured and see the wonderful museum which includes his walk to freedom. South Africa is a wonderful country with some of the friendliest people I’ve encountered.

[@perenti01]

Saw Zulu in the early 70's as an Australian army recruit. possibly one of the best movies i have ever seen. Every recruit had to see Zulu during basic training absolutely the best war movie ever. Fantastic work you do on these videos.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed

[@OldRancher]

As an American it is one of my favorite movies, I to seen it in the theaters. Enjoyed your video!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching.

[@guydebacker1140]

Whatever the inaccuracies it is indeed one of the greatest war movies i have ever seen, i’m a painter of historical figures and i love to paint zulu’s and britisch colonial forces, thank you for all these magnificent stories 👌

[@fieldagentryan]

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[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

[@davidreed5742]

Just bought the Battle set

[@fifer320foreva]

*british

[@sgw8903]

@@fifer320foreva Freudian slip prhaps? ;)

[@maxnemo1643]

I saw Zulu when I was a boy and many times since. This movie stirred a love of history as well as an appreciation for valor in both British and Zulu camps. Thank you for this insight into the real heroes of this battle. Jolly good show old Chap !

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.

[@MsBenlane]

one of those pics it comes on will just watch a bit end up watching the whole thing glad i saw it in the theatre

[@11buster1000]

In the Australian army on my third day of basic training they sat us down and we watched Zulu. After the movie our company commander said "discipline will keep you alive that's why your here". Liked your telling once again.

[@Lassisvulgaris]

And yet, Australians weren't known for their discipline, at least not in rear areas. I think it was in the series ANZAC, where following apeared: "Don't you salute in your army?"."We're trying to quit....". Still among the best fighters....

[@11buster1000]

@@Lassisvulgaris it's true, I called my squadron Sargent major"boss" out of ear shot of anyone that mattered. But we know what matters and that's the guy next to you, you're mates.

[@Lassisvulgaris]

@@11buster1000 I know. I have 13 months of active service in Royal Norwegian Navy, 6 months of peace keeping in Lebanon, and a total of 30 years service in the National Home Guard (HV),including three years in the cadet force, five years as platoon sergeant, and 15 years as platoon commander. Tha last years, I served with the local salute battery, now disbanded. The terrritorials were very relaxed, as most were conscripts.The officers and NCOs were often adressed by first or family name. On occation by rank and family name. The word "Sir", nor any equivalent does not exist in the Nowegian language.... To us, the most important was getting the job done; never mind "The Book". So we gave "The Pros" some gray hair.....

[@11buster1000]

@@Lassisvulgaris awesome mate. I'd probably stand by you as well.

[@johnianson4249]

@@Lassisvulgaris Correct I was in the Australian Army and served in Vietnam in 68/69 and avoided saluting oike the plague ! I believed why salute a bloke who was no better than you . However good officers were saluted at all times !

[@fld9201]

Saw Zulu for the first time as a 10 year old in 1969 or 1970: loved the film then and still do. Really enjoyed this review in sifting the truth from the myth and feel a little for the family of Henry Hook. Thank you Chris.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Still one of my favourite films

[@Why_So_Serious_279]

I grew up watching this movie in the 1970's; still one of my favorite war movies of all time. I think the British soldiers singing and the Zulus saluting at the end, though not accurate, was still a poignant touch that really set this movie apart from all others. It signified a sort of mutual respect from both sides for one another. Bravery and stalwartness in battle is deserved of respect, and warriors of all walks understand this.

[@wa1-marketing955]

In footballing terms, it was ...A Score Draw. 😂😂😂

[@MichaelWisner-h7f]

Only a soldier can know a soldier, when I came back stateside and ets in San Francisco, I ditched my whole duffle bag in the head, there was quite a pile, we didn't want to get arrested, and we would've, so we ditched em, them hare Krishnas, was just on us like glue, nuff said , I appreciate you Men and Women for your service, Welcome Home

[@fredazcarate4818]

As great as the film Zulu was, the fact of what occurred is far more fascinating. Filled with nuance and pathos. Once again Sir you have come to scratch and delivered a mighty blow.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@malcontent67mc]

The movie is used as a leadership training film in the Australian Army (and possibly other Services), thanks for the presentation and I look forward to your next offerings.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Someone else has mentioned that. Thanks for sharing

[@rotorheadv8]

Here in the U.S., the Marine Corps uses “12 o’clock High” with Gregory Peck

[@jonkennedy4846]

yes we were shown this movie when I was a recruit in the Australian Army. I didn't see it as a leadership training film, but rather to show the recruits that the best chance for survival is to follow orders no matter what.

[@rotorheadv8]

@@jonkennedy4846 Also to never stop fighting

[@rosaamarillo2110]

In the US Army BT in '79 it was 'A Bridge Too Far' & 'MacArthur'

[@GldnClaw]

Decided to watch the movie on a whim and found it compelling. Immediately after I thought to find some context for the battle and found your excellent video.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks, glad you found it useful

[@michaelmelton9691]

I have been fascinated about the history of the British military. As a kid I read everything I could find about the historic battles the British Army fought. I’m an American and even though we fought a revolution against Great Britain I couldn’t help but admire the mother country’s Army. My first battle that I read about was what we in America called “The Battle of New Orleans “. I have visited the battle sight many times. This battle was fought during the war of 1812 .The battle actually happened in Chalmet, Louisiana not New Orleans. I was touched by the small cemetery where British Soldiers were buried. There are trees planted in that location in their honor. The trees are called Packingham Oaks in honor of British General Packingham. I have stayed in the barracks where Andrew Jackson’s troops were located and was amazed how small the battle sight was. I was able to go the the U. K. several years ago and had a great time being able to see so many of the historical sights that I had read about. I’m proud to be an American but have always wished secretly wished I had been born in Great Britain. 🇺🇸GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸 🇬🇧GOD SAVE THE KING🇬🇧SEMPER FI🇺🇸

[@Hereford1642]

*site*

[@sugarkane4830]

@@Hereford1642 off you go and polish your jackboots now eh?

[@sugarkane4830]

Lovely sentiments there Michael. Best wishes. My hope is to one day visit your Civil war sites. And to go to the Vietnam wall. My son made it there before me.

[@catherinehiley3274]

Nice to read your message, what is the point of history if it doesn’t educate or inspire wherever it was made hope you stay curious and fascinated 😊

[@adamdriver1016]

Hi Michael, as a British man; fascinated with colonial history, may I invite you to rethink your thoughts on the revolution. You refer to the battle as we (American) fought against the British. Less than 50% of the colonists in the crown colonies were actively pro independence. The British in GB were staring up anti slavery movements. You cannot deny, George Washington, a very wealthy British slave owner would find such talk scary. Freedom in his mind applied only to the white, land owning men. Very different to the British in GB were black slaves were set free the minute they set foot on English soil. George Washington owned slaves, Englishmen in England were prohibited from owning them. The British navy had finally seen off the French and had promised land to the natives in North America. Now imagine in 1750. the continent is free of any threat and your countrymen in GB want you to pay for you very existence and defence. what would you do? America was born by Englishmen who didnt want to abide by the old model, but wanted to create their own system. America is an English experiment, which is going rather well! we thank you for all your help when we needed it....God bless the US and may she remain forever free and descent.

[@Anomalocaris42]

Great video. A couple of years ago I photographed and transcribed a military church baptism register at Dover. I was amazed to find the 2/24th Warwickshires were there at the Citadel from 1875-77 immediately before departing for Natal. There were 30 entries from the regiment - I was amazed to spot William Jones VC at the baptism of his daughter, QMS Edward Bloomfield, (Peter Vaughan in Zulu Dawn) and Sgt. John Tigar who was one of the small expedition who was one of the first on the Isandlwana battlefield to survey the destruction and deaths several weeks later. A few other names were killed at Isandlwana. It was amazing to see and hold a piece of real Victorian military history.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks so much for sharing and apologies for taking a while to respond to your comment.

[@cherrycarter8442]

Enjoyed that Chris, I have two large prints of those famous paintings of the Zulu war in our dining room, with a shield a wooden spear and some masks from my time in SA. You mentioned seeing the film in SA with your Dad and it was at a cinema in Australia our Dad took my brother and myself as kids, I later wondered if it was that film that inspired dear Dad (a yorkshireman) to look into working in SA. When we did arrive by ship in Durban as you did in those days, we took a bus trip to 'the valley of a thousand hills' and I distinctly remember Dad leaving his seat, speaking to the tour guide then telling us kids ' we are close to Rorke's drift ' as he pointed vaguely off towards the horizon, such a thrill !! One day as an adult I wish to visit, look up skywards and say 'thanks Dad for inspiring me ' ..

[@TheHistoryChap]

Cherry, thanks for sharing those memories and re-igniting my childhood memories too.

[@annwilliams6438]

Ha ha. Valley of a Thousand Hills is a long way from the battlefield. ;) Kind of like going for a tour around London and being excited that you are really close to Stonehenge…

[@michaellong5714]

Watching a historically based movie, more often than not, encourages me to actually look up the history, either online or in books. Sometimes, as great as some movies are, they don't always tell the real or whole story which can often be more rewarding by going into not only the history behind the action, but the results, effects, lasting outcomes, and future lives of those portrayed. Thanks for this alternate and more accurate view which can only add to the understanding and appreciation of how those on both sides felt they were doing what they thought was the right course of action.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching and for taking the time to post your comments

[@davidjackson4613]

Zulu is unquestionably one of the best war movies ever. I think it's the juxtaposition of the disaster of Isandlwana and the victory at Rorke's Drift virtually within the same day that captured the imagination the British public. With that idea in mind, I think it would be a great video comparing the two battle's regarding what was done wrong and what was done right during the two battles. As an example, I would like to see a comparison on how ammunition was dispensed during the two battles. At Isandlwana, the Quarter Master was a disaster, but at Rorke's Drift the famous "Ammunition Smith"worked tirelessly passing out ammo all night long. And, indeed, it was a very long night.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment and for your suggestion. I will add it to my list

[@carlmanson6634]

Quite. And why so many VCs were handed out

[@robg5958]

Thank you once again Chris for a superb presentation! I recently completed a creative writing course and our teacher said that as long as any story contains a thread, or semblance of truth, people will believe in it. Hollywood certainly adheres to that. Another old movie I would recommend for your analysis is Guns at Batasi, starring Richard Attenborough. He plays the role of an RSM to perfection.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Rob, thanks for your support and your film suggestion. Did see it but many years ago.

[@thedisabledwelshman9266]

@@TheHistoryChap brilliant as always chris.

[@chriscann7627]

Oh yes, a great film - probably the best British film covering decolonization and the "Winds of Change"

[@fieldagentryan]

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[@StutleyConstable]

Never heard of 'Guns at Batasi' but thanks to you I found it here on YT. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKYoKJ5gbSEgJo Thanks for the suggestion!

[@richardthompson9836]

Well done Chris! Most interesting. A film, in my openion, right up there with Lawrence of Arabia. Thank you for all that you bring us on these historical adventures.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Funny enough, that is another one of my favourites....along with Khartoum.

[@markshaw5159]

Richard, your comment mentions "Lawrence of Arabia". Totally agree with you. Zulu was a marvellous film (despite the historical inaccuracies) which I liked very much. However, for me, the film about Lawrence seemed to give a, possibly, accurate depiction of an enigmatic character. History Chap, very much appreciated the explanation of the reality vs the film. Excellent.

[@hughmacfarlane9662]

Nah ! Orrance was and is the Number 1 guy , but poor motor-biiker .

[@anthonyhind1308]

Saw Zulu when I was 9 years old,and it fired my imagination and interest in the Anglo-Zulu war.Down through the years I read books on the subject and every so often thought to myself that I'd love to go visit Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift,but never thinking that I would ever get there as it seemed so remote.I did get there in 2016,and I can't describe my feeling when I first saw the distinctively shaped hill in the distance.Wandering the battlefield of Isandlwana and standing in the redoubts at Rorke's Drift was an incredible experience.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment

[@marksykes5434]

A friend of mine went in 1995 & almost didn’t get back , they were told to leave at dawn to enable them to get there & back during daylight hours ( because tensions between Africans & white people were still running high ) & they didn’t leave until 8 am & there mini bus was attacked at a crossroads on the return , they had to drive at high speed through the lights at dusk whilst being stoned , he said they were shitting themselves !

[@thomasfennell7838]

Excellent presentation History Chap! I have seen Zulu several times but was unaware of the historical inaccuracies portrayed in the film. I just never researched the story as intriguing as it was. Clearing up those inaccuracies I believe puts a better and proper light on the actual story. Thank you for posting. I thoroughly enjoy British Military History. I find it fascinating.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for your support, Thomas.

[@NeilSmith-o8h]

When I saw the film Zulu for first time on TV in 1976 it was one of those moments that as they say changed my life but when you start to read the various books published over the years the truth is always more fascinating than what any film can come up with still to this day I've spoken to people who think the 24th regiment are a Welsh regiment perhaps the power of the movies finally I know you focus mainly on British military history is there a chance of a video about Custer's last stand which has a fascination among people of a certain age great stuff as usual

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & for your feedback. Will give your request some thought. Thanks.

[@Kaiyanwang82]

This battle always fascinated me. I came to know it due to an Italian "high-end" comic, Gino D'Antonio's "The Man from Zululand" from the collection "A man, An Adventure". That issue, like the movie, tries to have a balanced point of view, in this case using as a narrative device a German Namibian character of dubious morale but hardy and with grit. Zulu always fascinated me, their heavy (number wise) infantry armies with long-lasting military service and spears + short weapon equipment with large shields reminded me of the early Rome.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & your feedback

[@johnwalker4251]

Wonderful bit of trivia. I saw it when I was 10 in large theatre that showed films about 5 years old for a couple dollars. It was a thrill and I went back the next week to watch it again! So, thanks for this one off movie video, what a pleasure to watch.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Still one of my favourite movies

[@tuisitala9068]

I first saw the film as an eight year old when it came out in 1964. I was traumatised by the thousands of Zulus and had nightmares for years of them attacking my house. The horror was encapsulated by the music played over the scene of the waggons being turned on their sides. No other film has affected me so much for so long. I guess I was just too young at the time.

[@gbone7581]

You should attend an EFF gathering to get over it!

[@LesterMoore]

Don't move to South Chicago or Detroit.😱

[@DivineAlchemyOfSouls]

⁠@@LesterMooregonna be able to make Zulu 2 if he does though 😂

[@scottarmstrong7311]

You poor girl! No wonder you had night mares. This movie is for men.

[@scottarmstrong7311]

You poor girl. No wonder you had night mares. Your parents should not have allowed a young girl to watch this movie.

[@KingBobCat]

A very interesting video about one of my all-time favorite movies! Thanks for posting! 👍

[@leongreaves2889]

I remembered that movie it was a classic, the music set the stage for the battle, just the word Zulu could have sent chills down the soldiers spines. The Welsh soldiers acquitted themselves brilliantly.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment

[@blowingfree6928]

Except.......they were not Welsh. Of the 122 soldiers of 'B' Company, 2nd battalion, 24th Regiment (Warwickshire Regiment) present at the Battle of Rorke's Drift, 49 are known to have been English, 32 were Welsh, 16 were Irish, one was a Scot, and three were born overseas. The nationalities of the remaining 21 are unknown.

[@garypearce3534]

In actual fact there was more Irish natives than Welsh.Approximately only 6 was actually born in Cymru the majority was from the Midlands and London.The regiment that actually was at Rourkes Drift was called Warwickshire Regiment of Foot who Later became the South Wales Borderers.They was based at Brecon in Wales.

[@grahamlloyd7157]

Thank you for making this video, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Many years ago there was an excellent article written by Dr Karl Chin about the brummies at Rorkes drift. The film is great and I think the elevation of the Welsh theme was due to the producer being from Wales.. but no harm in my opinion....the sing off between the two factions is a great highlight!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching and for commenting.

[@Radio4ManLeics]

This is brilliant! Exactly the level of detail I love in historical documentaries. And I agree, it's a fantastic film!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support

[@nordveld]

I am not British, but I have loved this move since I had seen it decades ago. I do understand movies have to change the story to remain watchable, and I think Zulu did this quite well. Thanks for this great video!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks

[@georgeedwards4807]

Brilliant as usual Chris ! I would love a breakdown of Zulu Dawn film next, i imagine that is probably more true to the events ? Big fan of both films and indeed the Charge of the Light Brigade one from 1969 !

[@TheHistoryChap]

George, I knew someone would ask for Zulu Dawn. You are the trail blazer!

[@georgeedwards4807]

@@TheHistoryChap haha great stuff. Although I must say my favourite film has always been Waterloo 1970, this has to be the most epic battle scenes ever recorded!

[@simonkevnorris]

From what I've read the movie shows Durnford (the Burt Lancaster character) in a different light to real life. I believe a lot of blame for the loss was placed on his shoulders.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Zulu Dawn is just as inaccurate, if not more so. The portrayal of Durnford as the all knowing, all wise hero is nauseating. In reality, he was largely to blame tactically for the defeat. If he'd just turned up to reinforce the camp and defend it then the camp may have held out. Instead he disobeyed his orders, and the camp orders, and rode out chasing Zulus, thus bringing the battle on. He also decided to defend a far too extended position, and this compromised the 24th Foot. None of this is shown in the film Zulu Dawn.

[@gaptaxi]

@@lyndoncmp5751 I think the accurate part was the lack of ammunition and the blanket stackers that were responsible for issuing it, the ammo boxes those days needed a special tool to open them, If that got broken or lost it was extremely difficult to get at the ammo, these days it is just lift and peel off the lid because of this defeat.

[@stevemercer5769]

Great breakdown of history vs movie - a movie I’ve loved for decades. I had the honour to serve alongside the Royal Regiment of Wales in Belfast in the 1980’s - the regiment that held the battle honour for Rorkes Drift at that time. Rorkes Drift Night Jan 22nd was cause for huge celebration within the regiment - even when deployed operationally. I have very fond memories of that evening and the traditions therein. Battalion consolidations have seen the demise of the RRW in the British Army, however The Royal Welsh Regiment Museumn Brecon has a fantastic array of historical material relating to this battle, and is well worth a visit if you’re ever in the Brecon area

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to post such a detailed comment.

[@billlansdell7225]

This was well timed. I just finished watching Zulu with my son and went looking for historical reality. The biggest inaccuracy for me, was the way they graft 1960s sensibilities onto the 1870s. If they were really hippies, they wouldn't have joined a professional, volunteer army in the first place, at the height of the British Empire. I find it hard to believe they would be poncing about, pondering, "What does it all mean?"

[@d.s.archer5903]

Agreed

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@mediapartners9950]

Excellent review Chris! On of the best (and arguably one of the least historically accurate) of the clasic British war film genre. You've nailed it!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@djuk6573]

Im watching it on film 4 plus1 now.. during the advert breaks im watching this... what a time we live in.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video.

[@MrKato88]

Your knowledge and passion showing through on yet another brilliant video.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@thomasgumersell9607]

Truly one of my favorite films of all time. An interesting short video I'm glad to hear you point out any errors that occured in the film Zulu. A piece on Henry Hook would be a nice video to watch. Especially as the portrayal of Henry Hook was not accurate. 💪🏼🙏🏻✨

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed. I have done a video about what happened to Henry Hook (& the other VC winners). Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5O5qZ-Ji8-dqLM

[@SeanRCope]

Odd, bored and thought about your channel, thinking to scan your collection. You just release this program. Next to the battle of the Little Bighorn, Rorkes Drift has never ceased to interest me. I thank you again Sir.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Sean, always pleased to help! Rorke's Drift was the one that got me hooked although Isandlwana is the one that really interests me.

[@fieldagentryan]

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[@markscouler2534]

Bighorn was over within minutes the films just makes it look like it lasted longer not to mention custer was all for glory who got all.men killed for nothing

[@julbro8451]

@@TheHistoryChap Isandlwana has possessed you since you were four years old and you stood on the slopes of that mysterious monolith with your Dad, soaking in the harrowing energies of that terrible place. It must be one of the most haunted battlefields on the planet. I think you are compelled to share this incredible story, and perhaps the souls and spirits of the dead have chosen you to tell the tale. Do you think the Curse of the Sphinx comes into play? Perhaps the 24th was cursed from the minute they adopted the Sphinx as their emblem. The Giza Plateau is full of high strangeness. When they landed in Cape Town, they were met by the Lion's Head. Three thousand miles of marching later, they were met by the Sphinx-like formation that spelled their doom. It is as if the Sphinx was in pursuit of them.

[@roymartin8507]

I always found that this movie was magnificent & stirring as a young lad. It's just a shame that the VC hero's weren't more accurately portrayed as they were great men in their own rights, with outstanding military careers.

[@TheHistoryChap]

True but I guess that movies for you. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@sgw8903]

They couldn't have portrayed them accurately because the awarding of the medals was, as it still often is, primarily a matter of morale and propoganda. Not questioning the bravery of the VC's winners or any person who has to stand and face such horrors. But the glorifigation and glamorisation of militarism only means we will suffer it's consequences longer.

[@roymartin8507]

@@sgw8903 You have obviously never served, nor know the criteria required for the awarding of bravery medals

[@sgw8903]

​@@roymartin8507 It's nothing to do with serving or not. The information is available to all. I am no expert but It's something like exceptional "valour in the presence of the enemy" has to be observed and reported by three officers. It is then bumped upstream until the sec for defence makes the final decision to award or not. I am not alone in believing that the likelihood of that process being easily (and perhaps inevitably) reversed is very high. The unique blitz of awards for this battle suggest this was such a case. What other explaination can you offer? Do you realy believe that more demonstrations of exeptional valour were displayed at Rorkes Drift than at Majuba Hill where apparently, none did? How about D-Day? Only three officers observed a single example of exceptional valour in the face of the enemy? I would like to know what they thought the rest of the poor buggers were doing! I am not suggesting that the recipiants didn't deserve it, but the implication that only 1,355 members of the armed forces have been observed to have shown such valour in the past 170 odd years is riddiculous. As is the notion that there has never before or since been such valour displayed in any other singe action as there was at Rorke's Drift.

[@sgw8903]

@@roymartin8507 "In time of war, when truth is so precious, it must be attended by a bodyguard of lies." WINSTON CHURCHILL

[@michaelcharlton8896]

Thank you - yet another engrossing and informative video! The different names for "Rorke's Drift" are interesting: the British propensity to name a place after a person using their surname - in this case, the "Rorke" of James Rorke, along with the Afrikaans for "ford" - drift - is self-evident. But I think I prefer the Zulu name for it: KwaJim, or (loosely) Jim's Place! All those videos you suggested sound great - I'd certainly vote for all three!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for adding to all the comments on this video.

[@l-nolazck-rn24]

You probably made one of the best reality vs film vid ever.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you.

[@jinxperfect725]

I’m a 68 year old lady , my nan took me to see this and I’ve been a fan ever since , watched the film probably 40 times since . Love it and the history . You tell it well 4:11

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your comment & for watching my video.

[@wondereagle]

This is the first video of yours I have watched. Really entertaining, and great delivery.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.

[@toenhev17]

Thanks Chris, I've always been fascinated by the film, I did know there were inaccuracies but I didn't realize how much. You've got to be one of the best channels here! Once again thanks

[@TheHistoryChap]

Tony, thanks for those very kind words. Glad that you are enjoying.

[@justinreilly6619]

Fascinating story, it has a great classical element to it (few facing the many) and very, very well told! 👏 Thank you! I'm up for all three of the suggestions you put forward at the end. 👌

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks for commenting.

[@jockster5525]

Quality as ever mate .. thoroughly enjoyed your efforts 👍

[@TheHistoryChap]

Pleased you are enjoying them. Thanks for watching.

[@jjsc4396]

Thank you. Extremely well narrated, produced and edited.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you

[@clivehoward7366]

Just like you, I saw the film at a young age {8} and on my first trip to the cinema. It has had a profound effect on my life of military and police service and passion for military history, especially the Zulu wars and, after seeing the film Waterloo, the Napoleonic wars. Zulu remains my favourite movie of all time, have watched it countless times, love the production story and even have acquired a prop rifle used in its making. Great stuff!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Nice to meet a kindred spirit. Thanks for watching.

[@chancevonfreund9145]

I remember seeing the movie as a boy and I was amazed at the bravery on both sides especially the British fighting an overwhelming mass of the enemy with no relief. 🇬🇧 It's a fantastic war movie. 🎥 Thanks for straightening it up. They sure are not Documentaries. Cheers🍻

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video, glad you enjoyed it.

[@shireknight01]

I found that absolutely fascinating, thank you. I realise looking through your videos that you specialise mostly in British history but is there a chance that maybe one day you might do a video study on The battle of Little Big Horn and also a video comparing that battle with the film "Son of the Morning Star" which I’m sure you're aware of, please?

[@garyarmitage9359]

Wonderful Video! I had the same experience as a Yank and had no idea of the Anglo Zulu war. The Zulu's were amazing and the British Soldiers were fantastic! Loved the film!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Gary, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.

[@jonathanbirtwistle1729]

I thoroughly enjoyed your no nonsense presentation... would love to see more. Thanks 👍

[@TheHistoryChap]

Please make sure you subscribe to my KZbin channel

[@davidabney7700]

Job well done sir! In 1964, I was but 12-years old when my nDad and Mom took my brother and me to the movie to see this great movie. From that movie I coveted a break-top Webley .455 like the two Lieutenants had. I remember those two British Officers standing tall, standing brave, facing down hordes of charging Zulu Warriors with their very meager force. A classic David versus Goliath. The movie captured my imagination, especially the Webley MK VI Revolver. Later I would ascertain that the Webley Revolver in the Zulu movie had not be developed yet, but an equally awesome handgun was present.That was the Adams .450 or the Enfield MK II 450 revolvers, one or the other, both with big, big slow moving bullets that had great knockdown power, something desperately needed at Rorke's Drift that day. Many thanks for this video, brought back good memories of my childhood. I never obtained the Webley .455 I coveted, but I did purchase two Webley MK IV .380/200 Revolvers. A favorite in my modest collection!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Wow, what a great story and a fascinating collection.

[@johnnyb8825]

I first saw the film at the cinema in 1976 when I was 10. It gave me a respect and admiration for Zulu culture and history that has remained with me to this day.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Same here

[@mrpolsco6872]

Great commentary ….thank you… Khartoum with Charlton Heston was also a very good movie.

[@alistaircox3867]

That was an excellent presentation. Thank you for explaining everything so clearly.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed my video

[@Steve_Schiffenhaus]

Awesome man - watched it as a kid with my brother all the time - hadn’t seen it in 15 years - was spellbound at how magnificent a film it is even today

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing

[@davidmurphy8364]

I came across your channel a week ago and I can’t stop watching! Absolutely fantastic content, keep it up :)

[@TheHistoryChap]

David, thanks for those kind words. I'm glad you are enjoying my videos. Plenty more to come. Please make sure you subscribe to my channel here on KZbin so you don't miss future stories.

[@_Abjuranax_]

Another inaccuracy was that Pvt. Cole was killed in the action at Rorke's Drift, when in fact he was buried under the hospital when it burned down where he was fighting with Hooks, and he did not later answer Role Call. Sgt. Bourne and others helped him with his kit, as you could be promoted in the British Army, but not paid.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@dunec4039]

Really great analysis. I've been to both Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift; the former is most haunting, the latter nondescript. By the way, the filming was about 250 miles away in the QE park at the amphitheater in the Drakensburg (you can see the high peak on the right in some of the shots called the Sentinel). Also the Buffalo River flows the other way to the Tugela in the movie.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Lemma01]

As ever, Chris - very well said in pursuit of both context and accuracy. So we'll never accuse you of inserting any biased perspective: that's precisely why we enjoy your work.

[@TheHistoryChap]

That’s very kind of you. Thanks.

[@caincotterill5493]

I’m going to watch this next Sunday afternoon, cause that’s what Sunday afternoons are for🇬🇧👊🏼

[@paulreeve3824]

Three impressive things about the film. Remarkable outdoor cinematography and soundtrack, and not portraying the Zulus as simply ‘the enemy’ or even, ‘the baddies’.

[@tsurumichan]

This film inspired me to study British war history as well. I was always in awe to see any 1/35, or any scale, diaramas.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing

[@JonPaul1953]

I don't care whether it's historically accurate or not. I watched it when it was first released, have watched it many times since and, at 70 years of age it still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and sends shivers down my spine. Great movie, and a great insight into "the real Rorke's Drift👍" Thank you.

[@angelachouinard4581]

I too first saw this at a drive in theater. I fell madly in love with Michael Caine but also even as a kid I remember how balanced the portrayal of both sides was. This is the best facts vs film analysis I've seen. Subscribed to someone who taught me more about one of my favorite movies.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support

[@lauriedixon9397]

Whilst travelling across South Africa in 2010, my wife and I found time to travel the long unmade road to rorkes drift. There is a fantastic museum with waxwork scenes of the actual battle and other memorabilia. To stand there and feel the ambiance of that valley location is very evocative of the sounds and scenes from the film. The layout of the then buildings is possible to trace from maps. Definitely worth a trip just to stand there in the african sunshine and reminisce.That was our first trip and ,other than two pandemic years,we spend one month in this fantastic country every year.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Laurie, thanks for taking the time to share memories of your journey to Rorke’s Drift.

[@tomsenior7405]

Another Grand Essay. Thank you. Zulu is a beautifully crafted Film with many inaccuracies. I knew this going into the Cinema, when I was only 7 years old. It doesn't matter. The Film is Story Telling at it's best. The reality is far more important. At the very least the Film inspired people to research the History. And that is wonderful. I didn't join the Army to become a Deaf Lieutenant, or an Officer of Engineers with little hope of promotion. I joined because of Family tradition, Honour and Duty.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.

[@JackBaptist]

I’m eleven years old and I’ve started a Lego rorkes drift great film! Love it

[@TheHistoryChap]

Great to hear that. Good luck with your Lego Rorke’s Drift.

[@JackBaptist]

@@TheHistoryChap thank you!

[@timvandenbrink4461]

I’d love to see that!

[@cathbadmusic8489]

All-time classic film, a superb cinematographic treat packed with fine performances. In contrast to many films of its era, particularly cowboys and indians movies, it shows respect and admiration to the fighters on the opposing side.

[@raywillcox8622]

I agree with you, superb

[@michaelnoller3441]

I love it. The odd thing about history , to me, is the more I learn the more I realize, is out there to learn. The Zulu story is what I what to learn. Well done.

[@monochromebluess]

Excellent video presentation. I remember going to see Zulu with my mother as a 7 year old in 1964. Loved the Men of Harlech singing and winning the “contest” with the chanting Zulu’s. Even if it’s cinema imagination. As for other presentations I would love to see a story on the 1882 battle of Tel El Kebir. My great grandfather fought at this skirmish serving in the 79th Foot (Cameron Highlanders) and earned the Egypt campaign medal and the Khedive's Star. The whole Egypt and Sudan campaign story in these years would be entertaining. Please consider doing this Chris.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Alan, I'm glad that you enjoyed my video and thanks for taking the time to comment. Tel El Kebir is coming very soon.

[@protocriteria790]

I just watched this movie two days ago. I love it. The first attack, with the Zulus banging their shields like a train, gets me every time - I could watch that scene over and over. I might add, that scene was so great they copied it in the film Gladiator.

[@TheHistoryChap]

I was aware of the Gladiator connection. You can see why Ridley Scott used those sounds.

[@BradBrassman]

Aye, Ridley Scott said he did it as a homage to this great film.

[@snacks1184]

Same chant.

[@gerardhogan3]

Gosh Chris, another downright bloody good yarn. I really liked the way you went through the inaccuracies with the real deal. You obviously understand the social realities of that time. I am positive that anything on those individuals In another story, is a going to be well researched and delivered. In addition I'd like to know your story. Were you a soldier, where do you film, do you collect militaria, where did you grow up, did you study etc. Warmest regards Gerard

[@TheHistoryChap]

Gerard, thanks for your kind words. Lots of questions. The short answers are never a soldier (but was an air cadet!), and don’t collect too much memorabilia. Tend to shoot indoors and sometimes on location in England.

[@davetooes6179]

Rorke's Drift was a standard movie for ALL new recruits coming into the Australian Army. Almost from the moment, it came out. I was a National Serviceman called up in July 1969 I saw it twice in my 12 weeks of recruit training. Others I have spoken to were still seeing it at training in the 2000's. I know it's not completely true but it's still a major movie to engender the fighting spirit for BOTH sides. As I am half Welsh I migrated when I was 10 who can ever forget Men of Harlech. Even if the words were rewritten for the movie

[@TheHistoryChap]

Dave, thanks for taking the time to share.

[@stuartclements9290]

Yes wstched in training in the Australian army. Still a fav movie.

[@dukecraig2402]

Gallipoli should be, that's a great movie there.

[@davetooes6179]

@@dukecraig2402 the recruits are saying they still watch Zulu. anyrate Gallipoli didn't come out till 1981. Maybe they can only afford 1 movie

[@dukecraig2402]

@@davetooes6179 I know it didn't come out till 81, I meant that's what they should be showing them now.

[@davidis7]

Exceptionally well done!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@brianmason8597]

Great presentation...My neighbour was doing his military training in Ladysmith, Natal when the movie was being made and they volunteered as extras in the film. You mention John Chard very briefly. The John Chard medal was presented by the SADF up to about 1986.

[@PhotoWyzard]

Simply brilliant movie! I have no idea how many times I have seen it and yet, I enjoy it as much as the first time I saw it, each time. Classic historical military movie, one of the very best.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Totally agree.

[@geraldmiller5232]

as usual you were right on with your explanation of this great story. it is as you say one of the best war movies ever done.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for posting.

[@woodywall69]

Zulu has always been a favorite of mine, and like The History Chap this movie helped inspire my lifelong interest in history. In the movie's defense I think its errors are relatively minor compared to other movies of the period (ever seen Robert Shaw as "Custer of the West"?), plus I think if Hook's decendents had thought about it they might have been amused that their straight-laced ancestor was transformed into arguably the highlight character of the film - of course that may just be the perspective of a disreputable American. A minor rant: when I was a kid back in the early 60s, history was all over popular culture in a way it's hard to understand now. Over half the prime time TV lineup had some basis in history (at least if you include westerns and WWII based shows) and all the big event movies were historical epics like Ben-Hur, Cleopatra, How the West Was Won. Much of the "history" portrayed in these shows was atrocious, bearing little connection to actual facts other than some names (like for instance "The Battle of the Bulge"). But for me and I think many others it gave us a sense of historical imagination, a realization of there being a past that created the present we live in, together with an interest to know more, leading to the understanding of how much more complicated, nuanced and fascinating the actual history could be. Now all the big movies are special effects laden space operas and super-hero sagas. And in the absence of historical imagination we're living through the adage that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. So a big thank you to Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, the Sand Pebbles and, at the top of the list, Zulu.

[@wa1-marketing955]

Excellent interpretation and analysis of Life and HollyWoods interpretation of History. When you know who is behind Hollywood, character assassination and mischaracterisation of real characters of history, is just part of a larger agenda. As many say...Those who fail to learn from history, are condemned to repeat its mistakes.

[@MichaelSaunders-y2m]

When the film was shown, Hooks relatives walked out.😊

[@clouddog2393]

Saw the film at the cinema when l was a kid in the '60's and have watched it many times since . Really good video about the truth of what really happened at Rorke's Drift . Entertaining , informative and interesting , Thank you History Chap .

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it

[@johnnybeer3770]

First class summing up of the battle Chris , I could hear the enthusiasm in your voice for the subject . Excellent .🇬🇧

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks, Johnny

[@Cetok01]

Thanks for this. Zulu is also one of my favorites since childhood (I was 12 when it came out). Although I've known for awhile that the history was a bit off in it, I still watch it every few years; in fact, I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Still a great movie.

[@colcocon6021]

Every time I watch Zulu I am reminded of how powerful an example it is of a truly great Anti-war film. No gung-ho nonsense on display in it. The ferocity and human carnage of the final battle sequence and the looks of horror on the faces of all of the British soldiers when the firing ceases and they survey what they have “accomplished” is something truly disturbing to watch.

[@Cetok01]

@@colcocon6021 Survival is often a guilt-ridden relief.

[@colcocon6021]

@@Cetok01 Yes. I have heard so from many diverse sources. I wonder to what degree the survivors of that regiment found themselves haunted by this victory rather than rejoicing in it for the rest of their lives. I think I would have found it impossible to ever feel at peace with myself after experiencing something like that. Right or wrong.

[@litebkt]

The film has long been a favorite of mine. It got me interested in British history decades ago. We yanks don’t have so much of it.

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

So pleased to see the channel growing so fast and well now. Subbed at 2k and been a fan since. Really excellent content.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support. My aim is to get to 100k subscribers so plenty of work to do. Lots more videos in the pipeline.

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

@@TheHistoryChapyou smashed it!

[@thefakesplendorpodcast]

Jolly good job putting facts vs. film into this video. Splendid job. Thank you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching

[@kevinallen9414]

Many thanks for this. I just watched the film again and this commentary was absorbing and well delivered.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cameronbrown9080]

Great video today thanks for what you do Chris and how sad it was to Hook's family for the slap in the face of a good man

[@TheHistoryChap]

Cameron, you might enjoy this video too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5O5qZ-Ji8-dqLM

[@michaelmalone9062]

Another compelling lecture. Thanks for the historical corrections. They enhance our understanding of the movie but not diminish its power. Odd that I ended up serving 31 years in the US Army. Perhaps Zulu was a recruiting movie for me.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Michael, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching

[@briandubois-gilbert8182]

Fascinating and engrossing as usual. Filmmakers resort to “creative license” to embellish and make the screenplay more dramatic and entertaining than had they stuck to true-to-life portrayal of historical characters and events. But as you said, the Zulu film was acclaimed and was popular. Really appreciate and enjoy your narrative.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks. Sometimes I think historians can get sniffy about a story well told.

[@briandubois-gilbert8182]

@@TheHistoryChap if I may add-your use of period paintings, photos and images of the historical events and characters in your narrative is superb. Perhaps some relevant background music will be like cherry on top of the icing? Thank you.

[@keithgg26]

Im 77 and saw this film when it first was released. There is a house called Rorkes Drift in West Wickham, Kent. My school bus stopped putside every day. Apparently one of the soldiers lived or retired there. I was so Impressed ! Another point was yh he amazing but ominously advancing slow music by John Barry, it so set up feeling of somethig grand but threatening comig your way. An aszing favourite of mine still, all these years later.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing. Interestingly, Barry rearranged the Zulu soundtrack for another film: cry, the beloved country. Very haunting.

[@andrewdeehan6292]

That was fantastic! Great flow and great content!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed my video, thanks for watching.

[@cmanningdeal6228]

That Moving Picture had quite a few great lines..the Sergent Majors "Even Numbers , Sir" showing a total acceptance of the Engineer Officer as their leader, and the sarcastic joke by a private to a ricochetting bullet, "Who left the door open ?" A bunch of small items that enhanced the story overall.

[@TheHistoryChap]

it is a great film with some brilliant lines and superb acting.

[@rosaamarillo2110]

Mine was something along the lines of 'The British Army does not allow 2 disasters in one day'

[@bmused55]

Although many of the changes can definitely be attributed to how movies worked back then, the way they character assasinated Hook is unfortunate. All in all, Zulu shows both sides as brave warriors. It doesn't show the British as innocents and the Zulus as barbarians like some claim.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very good points. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@Johnny-Thunder]

So Spalding rode off to urge the relief column to move faster so that he could have his chance at glory, but by doing so he actually lost his chance to be in the history books... Or it saved his life, we will never know...

[@TheHistoryChap]

I like your ironic observation. His initial leaving the post was genuine but interestingly as he rode back that evening he came across a large body of Zulus and retreated.

[@paulgraves7949]

Excellent piece sir.......as for the film I have easily watched it a dozen times and will no doubt watch it a dozen more!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Great film!

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

Fantastic video (as usual). I would like to mention the magnificent paintings shown here. At 6.50 "Rorke's Drift" by Alphonse de Neuville, 1880 (Art Gallery of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia) at 9.15 "Isandlwana" by Charles Edwin Fripp (Nat. Army Museum, London) and at 11.25 "Rorke's Drift" by Lady Butler, 1880 (Royal collection).

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support and sharing that information.

[@Paul-ki3st]

Despite what the wokesters would have us believe , the movie is respectful and admiring of both the Zulus and the British.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video.