BUYING THE CHEAPEST SKID STEER ON MARKETPLACE THATS BEEN SITTING FOR YEARS...WILL IT RUN??

[@TheHomePros6221]

WE HAVE A WINNER EVERYONE!! Durwood mount please contact me for the super clean giveaway!! I paid $2,850 for this machine and with the CRAZY prices with equipment now I think I got a ok deal. Let me know what u guys think.. fair deal? Also any information to help with getting her running again would be much appreciated ❤️ Thanks for all the guesses there we’re some comments that were sooo close!!

[@lukekazmir1197]

Here in Texas I’d say it was on the lower end of deals, however I’ve never seen a older Toyota skid steer for sale in my area at least so there’s that

[@TheHomePros6221]

yes they are pretty rare but the engine is very common

[@floridagunrat1625]

@@lukekazmir1197 what else did they use that engine in? Honestly the only thing I knew of was the 80s Toyota pickup trucks and those weren't very common.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Toyota forklifts I think land cruzer ect

[@cargotoolshop5319]

@@TheHomePros6221 common in a forklift

[@jamesb11637]

No better way to learn the machine than rewire the entire thing yourself, and as much as I hate wiring too, it is comforting to know that you touched every bit of it to fix janky previous repairs.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u soo much!! I actually enjoy the wiring part of it I just hate troubleshooting the wiring and reading wiring diagrams lol

[@darreldavis9600]

Depends on weather and compression the glow plugs has to be used, hold the key for 20 seconds then crank. That coil that burned through is to let you know the glow plugs are ready and hot. The mechanical pull switch is only for cutting off. To turn off by key switch, it would have a solenoid and actuator that would push on the mechanical switch on the fuel pump

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are completely correct

[@jackrichards1863]

@@TheHomePros6221 we know.

[@starionslider2116]

My SDK7 is a beast. Never lets me down. They are actually really solid machines. Also that upright lever on left is the throttle, the one under it is a manual fuel cutoff that someone installed. Same as mine. A lot of parts are actually available cheap from toyota. I think the gauges, fusebox and switches are all still available and cheap. Most of the issues with mine when i picked it up were from dirty fuse connections in the fusebox. Everything works flawlessly in mine now. I even grafted a bobcat 753 door onto mine and sealed up the back and sides with 1/4” lexan with gaskets and installed a full side heater core. I use it to plow all winter. Its a beast with chains on back. 👍

[@TheHomePros6221]

dude that’s so awesome!! I’ve heard a lot of great things about them and heard the engine is extreamly tough

[@starionslider2116]

@@TheHomePros6221 yea they are but i did hear they are susceptible to overheating due to either blocked rad or the fan blades snapping off then the heads tend to crack. They are pretty rare because not many were imported to the US but I’ve probably seen 10 for sale in last 7-8 years and 5 of them said they had head issues. The only good thing is the engine parts seem to be available if you know where to look. Ive owned mine since 2014 and i really only use it a few hours here and there around the house and every snowfall it does my super steep driveway but I have not had any issues with it since i fixed it up after buying it. I think i did a waterpump on it in the beginning and then its been super reliable. Every gauge and light works correctly. The water in fuel bulb was lit after i fixed the wiring and I figured it was a different issue…… I drained the water seperator and boom the light went off and its been perfect 😂. You cant beat old 80’s yotas. Mine also came with 2 buckets and a set of original forks. Its handy for unloading wood pellets in winter.

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@starionslider2116 hopefully mine will get to that! The previous owner said they checked the head for cracks and everything while they machined it so hopefully it doesn’t have any🤞

[@GrizztheForkliftMechanic]

I’m a Toyota industrial equipment tech for a living and those lil skid steers are pretty darn solid machine. They’re built a lot like the forklifts and they’re the toughest built lift trucks you’ll find as well as designed with to be worked on instead of replaced. BTW anyone who touched the wiring in that before you SUCKS!

[@TheHomePros6221]

That’s soo cool so I took off the back of the injection pump and found a tore/ degraded diaphram could this be my issue?

[@GrizztheForkliftMechanic]

@@TheHomePros6221 likely a contributor To the problem but there’s also supposed to be a spring that pulls that link between the throttle air valve and the injection pump up. There should be a tab facing toward the rear off the rod and the spring goes from there up to another bracket

[@TheHomePros6221]

is that spring nessesary? the way mine is hooked up a spring would just try to return it back to idle? maybe I misunderstood your comment

[@GrizztheForkliftMechanic]

@@TheHomePros6221 yeah it’s a default to idle spring

[@michaelovitch]

The manual can be downloaded fro free,i just got one to see. Diesel engines don't need throttles to work,and when one is present,it's only for emergency shut off or smooth shut off,secondary to a primary injection shut off. The injection pump is doing all the work,to start,enrichen,shut off,or adjust timing. You should run it full open mechanical throttle,otherwise you will be way too rich and dump unburnt fuel in the engine oil,and reduce its lubricant properties.

[@TheHomePros6221]

But when I do that it just runs away it’s like the rack is stuck wide open

[@michaelovitch]

@@TheHomePros6221 It's the case looks like. It also would explain why it smokes grey,it's way too rich and advanced for the desired normal rpm ,you are choking the engine why it's injecting full throttle. It should be something around 2500 rpm. Do you have the shop manual ?,it's quite easy to find for free. You need that to know what you are doing precisely,you may have some modifications made by the previous owners,and you will be chasing your tail.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yea wiring and injector pumps aren’t my strong suite

[@michaelovitch]

@@TheHomePros6221 You did good till now : ) Just get reliable informations,like the shop manual. You are lucky to be able to have that machine,i wish i could here.

[@nickk7747]

@The Home Pros This injection pump needs that throttle to operate. inside the back of the injection pump there will be a diaphragm that operates the fuel rack inside the pump giving you throttle. That throttle plate is there to create manifold vacuum and ported vacuum which is what moves the diaphragm in the injection pump. there will be 2 hoses that run from the throttle body down to the back of the injection pump. when this diaphragm is torn it will create a high idle. A lot of older Toyota diesels operate this way. Old Toyota landcrusiers with the 3b diesel have it set up like this. That other cable that goes to the injection pump is for the Start, run and shut off.

[@oriancunningham]

Brings me back to when I was restoring an S55 AMG that had been sitting for 10 years, I think I spent close to 30 hours going through all the wiring and fixing everything. Godspeed buddy.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks man!

[@ditherdather]

I feel like there were no good wires on that when you bought it. literally all of them had one problem or another. You're a incredibly patient man for being able to parce that mess out.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u soo much!! I really appreciate it 🙂

[@jeremiahjohnson6511]

The butterfly valve is the manual engine kill for a diesel so it prob won't shutdown by the key. So I think that lever is working correctly. The throttle looks alot like the one we have on a dredge at my work. It's a twist throttle .

[@TheHomePros6221]

I was reading the manual and it says the lever is a throttle it’s a lil weird how it all works

[@charleslindsey1147]

The knob is throttle.lever is kill.

[@Mr.Engineer.]

You probably already have found this out, but it seems the pump is cobtrolled in the same manner as the 2H engine with manual gearbox. The butterfly valve have 2 hoses going down to the injection pump applying vacuum/atmospheric pressure on both sides of a diaphragm which in turn moves the fuelrack position inside the pump, determening the throttle. If I remember correct from when I had an 2H engine one hose goes from the bypass tube on the throttle valve measuring "atmospheric" and the other from the vacuum/engine side of the throttle valve. The diaphragm in the pump can tear and then the rpm will act sporadic or sometime just full throttle. The cool thing about these pumps is that you now got a throttle/butterfly valve so of you turbo the engine it will make all kinds of nice turbo sounds 😁

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are absolutely correct! check out my other videos on this machine if u want

[@MountaineerMiner]

$2850 was good, it’s worth that in parts even if it didn’t run as well as it does. As for the issues it had, that’s just par for the course on that age of equipment. I like the $400-$700 comments, that’s the price of a fluid and filter change and a couple hydraulic hoses.

[@TheHomePros6221]

haha I kno rite!! now that I fixed it up it’s worth a whole lot more than what I paid

[@corywadedavis]

Yea anyone saying $400-$700 has clearly not left the house or looked at the internet in the last 2 years. Everything is so expensive now. Even total basket case skid steers are at least $5000

[@JDubster68]

Hey Buddy!! JDub from PA here. I just found you recently. I must say you have a lot of talent and not afraid of anything. I like how your transparency flows cause that will help you grow your channel. Keep up the great work and taking on new projects.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Awesome! Thank you sooo much!!

[@TheHomePros6221]

What a awesome comment that really made my day

[@DesmondBorcherds]

Wonderful to see that you clean before you work. I am sick and tired of watching people working on vehicles with filth up to their arm-pits. Now in my 70's but used to rebuild cars, unfortunately petrol (gas) so I can't help with diesel problems. Waiting eagerly for part 2

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you very much!!

[@arlodewald5378]

For small fixes okay ; but if you have to get in up to your elbows clean it some way before !

[@tonyburnash5646]

We had two of those machines. SDK8 and SDK7 (back in 1989). There is should be an actuator on that fuel shutoff. It has 3 positions. Middle is RUN. Rotate in to START (In that position it dumps heavy fuel to the motor when cranking). Rotate to opposite direction is OFF. We had the actuator burnout, so he replaced it with a stiff cable and worked it manually to START and SHUTOFF, until the new actuator came in. Those Toyotas were good machines. A weak point is where the top half is welded to the bottom half. They will tare them selfs apart there. We welded in some extra metal to hold it together after it ripped apart.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks for the info my friend!!! check out my other vids on it if u want 👍

[@Fatamus]

Watching on Roku and computer 👍👍... Looks like it took some work but it's coming along 😁

[@edpoints1127]

I'd start with the manual. I believe the lever and the knob are cobbled on from something else. Might be switched. That pull out now might be the kill switch but it also might be a throttle set where you twist it to lock it once you set the throttle

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u

[@Kuwaitin08]

Purple Power! Spray that stuff all over, let it set for 10 minutes and rinse. Repeat 3 times and it will be like new. It will remove a bit of paint but not if you rinse quickly.

[@TaskTesla]

Hi, good video i really enjoyed it, couple of things i noticed and i wanted to give you some ideas for wiring. Do not use the shrink tube with solder, it's usually crap solder and it only looks good on the outside, use good solder and classic shrink tubes instead. And for the soldering, these point tip solders are usually for smaller jobs on PCB's and stuff, for wires use bigger solder gun. I dont know how its called in your contry but we call it transformer solder gun, it has a solid wire as a heating and soldering element. It heats up quick and solders nice these big wires. Cheers from Czechia!

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks a bunch!! I only use lead tin solder high quality stuff and the iron is by far the best soldering iron u can buy it gets up to 850 degrees

[@andyfairman7812]

@@TheHomePros6221 I think what's he's trying to say is that if you use a soldering gun (looks like a gun) that has a larger tip and higher wattage, you can transfer a lot more heat to those larger wires vs. a small tip soldering iron, Regardless of the quality of the smaller soldering iron, it just can't provide the same amount of heat. By the way, that was a big job replacing all that wiring, so good on you. Best of luck with the machine.

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@andyfairman7812 thank you 🙂 I have one of the soldering irons that he is talking about but this one is much better than those! It gets to 850 degrees in seconds, if you check out the pros they all use this one (hakko) ( made in Japan) and say it’s the best I’ve been through tons of different ones and I like this one the best

[@nickk7747]

@The Home Pros This injection pump needs that throttle to operate. inside the back of the injection pump there will be a diaphragm that operates the fuel rack inside the pump giving you throttle. That throttle plate is there to create manifold vacuum and ported vacuum which is what moves the diaphragm in the injection pump. there will be 2 hoses that run from the throttle body down to the back of the injection pump. when this diaphragm is torn it will create a high idle. A lot of older Toyota diesels operate this way. Old Toyota landcrusiers with the 3b diesel have it set up like this. That other cable that goes to the injection pump is for the Start, run and shut off.

[@TheHomePros6221]

this is the best info I have got so far!! I’m going to take the diaphram off and check it thank you sooooo much

[@TheHomePros6221]

I took the back off of the injection pump and the diaphram is completely destroyed degraded could this be my issue?

[@nickk7747]

@@TheHomePros6221 yes. That diaphragm has to be in good shape to operate. If its torn it will not pull on the fuel rack inside giving you throttle

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks nick

[@cesmith4566]

I have an SD5 in about the same condition! It has a Yanmar diesel. I ended up stripping the wiring completely and installing the basic necessities,oil psi, water temp, ect. Very handy machine plenty power for size!

[@TheHomePros6221]

That’s awesome!! Do u have the same throttle setup?

[@cesmith4566]

My throttle is on the lever and it operates the injection pump lever

[@TheHomePros6221]

Do you even have the knob thing that u pull? Does your key shut it off?

[@cesmith4566]

Yes I have a fuel shut off solinoid that works on the keyswich

[@TheHomePros6221]

That is what is missing on mine I beleive I didn’t see it on the injection pump unless I’m not looking good enough or it’s missing in the wiring

[@toddthompson3043]

I just fixed a 1978 toyota forklift with the same engine in it. Had the exact same issues. There is supposed to be a linkage from the throttle blade to the injection pump. The injection pump is a nippon Denso pneumatic governor. Message me if you have and questions. The throttle valve and the lever on the Injection pump should move in unison

[@TheHomePros6221]

read your other comment before this one and you are absolutley correct!! the linkage is connected but the edic motor is missing because they took this engine out of a forklift and stuck it in this skidsteer, I’m having trouble going through all these comments so if u can’t get in touch email or text me 7064428214 thanks for your help

[@gjamann]

Some diesel's like my international truck have a engine shutdown switch. You just pull the level out or down and starves the engine of air until it shuts off.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yes I’m thinking it has somthing to do with that just don’t know how to fix it ☹️

[@blawknox]

@@TheHomePros6221 you don't. It has a manual fuel pump and not an electric one. That's the way it was made.

[@blawknox]

I'm guessing the tall lever on the left was a factory throttle/shut off and the one that you are using is a add on. Those are designed to be twisted to add more rpm's to the engine slowly. Does it have a foot throttle too ??

[@TheHomePros6221]

no foot throttle but yes the knob was added later as i found out it was out of a forklift, and the electronic fuel shut off is missing

[@krama2940]

I think the thing that attaches to the injection pump is the throttle and cut off. Start should be somewhere between cut off and full throttle. The lever to the throttle body is to trim the air. The key switch may be just to control the electrical. Unless you have a electrical cut off valve at the injection pump. Good luck

[@TheHomePros6221]

engine was actually out of a forklift so some things are missing and different, it’s actually correct per manual I’ll try and explain in part 2

[@Ants_Pants]

Congratz buddy, it goes to show you that all it takes is that one right video to get your channel flying in the mile high club 👍 Good job buddy i wish you all the best.

[@TheHomePros6221]

aw thanks andris it is very very much appreciated you and Dave have been really good friends to me and I really cherish that thanks again brother and I always wish you the same!, you have came so far and your videos have gotten so good 😊

[@burntpistn]

A lot a diesels don’t shut off with the key . They just have a fuel shutoff cable sometimes that’s built into the throttle itself

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks

[@SuperNoticer]

Great video. Look forward to seeing your progress on this machine. Fwiw, I would clean all that paint off the chrome hydraulic cylinders before you use it much, to try to protect the seals and hopefully prevent having to rebuild them. I think you got a good deal.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u very much it’s actually factory paint on cylinders for the bucket they don’t more that far

[@astonmartin2727]

You on right track. Cleaning it up first well done. Most KZbinrs dont clean before they fix. Sorting wiring out great. You will get all your answers from comments as people who have worked with this machine know the solutions. Keep trying as Toyota makes good machines. You will get it sorted out. Waiting to see it all sorted and running.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks 👍

[@diggingdave3868]

New UK subscriber here...😊 You have shown the patience of a Saint with that wiring...id've exploded a long while ago. Loved the video, and am looking forward to part 2, and will definitely be having a look at your other videos too..😊👍

[@TheHomePros6221]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@fredscheerle7592]

Yeah my fuse blow after about 10 minutes, you must be well medicated Buddy!

[@sethbucha6403]

I have a sdk8 I bought for $600, in much much better shape. I’m going with $500. I totally redid my wiring on mine. My injection pump had some sort of external servo that that was activated by the ignition switch that I elemenated. I put a pull cable on the injection pump to kill it. I put at momentary switch for the starter and glow plugs. I’ve had the machine for 12 years and it is very solid. I also changed the bucket connections to universal.

[@TheHomePros6221]

that’s awesome!! how did you hook up the glow plugs? mine aren’t working I’m also missing the EDIC motor servo that your talking about if u want to sell it. shoot me a email at [e-mail] if u have any pictures or vid of how u hooked up the glow plugs. thanks a bunch my friend

[@neilkratzer3182]

If it doesn't have a electric solenoid on the injection pump then most likely key start and manual fuel shutoff. This would have been the time companies would have been going to complete key switches. Have 80 decade models that one may have one and another would use the other. Also maybe the governor in injection maybe stuck from sitting. 950.00

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank u very much for the helpful info!!

[@deranocasper]

Hello there from sunny Ireland just came across your video I love the restoration job tidy job on the wiring some one has the linkages on the wrong levers can't wait to seeing more videos fault finding really good all the best for 2023

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you so much!! check out my other videos on this machine if u want 🙂

[@deranocasper]

@@TheHomePros6221 I watched them all its amazing what you have achieved great we tool

[@durwoodmount4560]

best guess would be2850.00

[@TheHomePros6221]

DING DING DING WINNER WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I PAID $2850!!! please send me a email to [e-mail] thank you very much for guessing!!

[@SamCanada1]

Congrats @durwoodmount4560

[@juhomaki-petaja]

It has vacuum controlled injection pump. That knob is shutdown. When intake manifold has lots of vacuum, it pulls injection pump rack to idle. When you open butterfly, vacuum is lost and fuel rack moves to full throttle. There is rubber diaphgram inside pump. Check its vacuum hoses.

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are correct diaphragm is bad

[@theresters1]

YOU DID GET A GOOD DEAL. SOLDER CONNECTIONS ARE THE BEST. I AM A RETIRED INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICIAN, 46,000V TO MILLIAMPS...AND I HATE AUTOMOTIVE ELECTRICAL WORSE THAN FIRE ANTS. WIRE LOOMS ARE A NIGHTMARE..AUTOMOTIVE WIRING SCHEMATICS ARE LIKE HAVING A ROOT CANAL WITH NO DEADENING!!! GOOD LUCK, BUT YOU CAN DO IT!!SKIDSTEERS WERE NOT BUILT TO CHASE WINING. YOU MIGHT BUY A FOX AND HOUND...😬

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you so much woody!! you def seem to know your stuff!! I appreciate you!!

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks for watching everyone!! Please let me know if you can help me figuring out why this engine wants to runaway when I start it and also don’t forget to post what you think I paid I will let the winner know in a reply to their comment, hit the like button if you want to 🙂thanks again.. good luck

[@phillipchurch1851]

Typically when a diesel wants to run away the rack inside the pump is stuck full open

[@staind288]

$2500

[@TheHomePros6221]

the diaphram was completely deteriorated so I’m guessing that’s my problem

[@Kurt17Port]

My old man has a similar model, manual kill switch like that, key doesn’t shut it off. Lever throttle you set and forget once it’s running

[@TheHomePros6221]

that’s awesome thanks for sharing!!

[@kingfloopy]

The thing that melted in the dash panel is probably the indicator for the glow plugs. When you run them it'll heat up and show through the sight glass on front of it. I'd guess the glow plug control went bad or shorted and they stuck on leading to it melting.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yes I was thinking the same exact thing!! Thank you very much!!

[@jkline805]

I had this same machine but mine was in significantly better shape. The glow plug coil in the dash was an indicator for the glow plugs. When you hold the key to the left, the coil glows to let you know the plugs are hot. The wires on the right joystick went to a turn signal switch.

[@jkline805]

Also, there should be a solenoid that cuts off fuel to the motor when the key is turned off. Someone definitely replaced the solenoid with that knob you pull that cuts off fuel.

[@TheHomePros6221]

You are 100% correct be sure to look out for part two it should be out in a few days thanks for watching and commenting

[@Glenn_123]

I am going with $950... Tough to tell. Great job though enjoyed the video.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Great guess and thank you sooo much!!!

[@myronbro]

The knob you are adjusting the idle with is the fuel cut off. Slightly cut off fuel and it lowers the idle. I think you have an issue in your pump, the pump has a governor to regulate the idle. Get that working and the throttle lever will probably work too.

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are correct diaphragm is bad

[@georgeanderson3754]

You might want to buy some wiring harnesses from Toyota.

[@TheHomePros6221]

I’m to cheap lol

[@chrisseagondollar1230]

Last year I sold a SDK 10 for 8500. I owned it for 20 years it ran great and had no leaks looked great .

[@TheHomePros6221]

that’s awesome

[@EdMorgan2]

Great video, and work done on that wiring mess. Before you start lifting anything with that, you should probably clean the paint and rust of those piston rods. Or you might mess up those seals. Who would get paint on those?

[@TheHomePros6221]

I thought the SAME thing at first but it’s done like that from the factory those cylinders don’t move much due to the geometry

[@nicolasgarces77]

$500

[@mikewilliams2072]

Hydraulic rams

[@richardbenson4048]

I learned the lesson demonstrated here early in my mechanical experience. I had a vehicle I got that the owner said had some problems. So I set about fixing it. Of course I had now idea what I was doing. After countless hours and buying parts I only thought I needed and threats from my parents about the piece of junk at the house I gave up and got a shop to fix it. Cost me a small fortune to undo all the mess I made and fix it right. So now if I am sure and have the right experience I will work on things. If I have any doubts I lets someone who knows what their doing fixit. As for my guess as to how much you paid for this machine I would say "too much".

[@TheHomePros6221]

lol you live u learn 👍

[@scottstryker5020]

Cool machine. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing you repair it. I looked at one of these in Central Jersey last year. Kept my eye on it for weeks. He was asking 5000 very similar condition to yours except the wiring wasn’t a mess. Price went down to four then three. I probably could have gotten it for two grand but I didn’t have time for a huge Project. The wiring scares me. Anyway me thinks you’re pretty safe up to like 2500 or 3000. Prob worth 600 in scrap metal right?

[@TheHomePros6221]

Dang that’s cool I heard they are rare machines!! Yea I hate solving wiring issues!! Great guess on the price btw

[@hempjohn2484]

Dawaj

[@johneaston2348]

The little pull out throttle is called a vernier throttle used to set idle speed. At least that is what we used it for on trucks a long time ago

[@TheHomePros6221]

In my case I’m pretty sure it’s only used as a shut off, I’ll explain in part 2

[@lonnieheisenburg7788]

I know it seems like soldering your splices will make them stronger, and in terms of tensile strength it does, but solder makes the joint brittle. In an environment like this with lots of vibration that brittleness will be liable to make the joint fail. I think the best practice for something like this is just a lineman's splice with some glue lined shrink sleeves.

[@TheHomePros6221]

You are correct I didn’t have any though

[@rick3090]

that glow plug resistor is fairly common on older diesels , Mercedes and other German stuff used them , all it does is indicate when it on by getting red, i have bypassed these and just put a light , on one i used a license plate light assembly .

[@TheHomePros6221]

your correct my friend

[@Mikefestiva]

Good project you got there 👍 It’s crazy how some people can run there equipment into the ground without doing any maintenance and up keep! You will definitely bring this back for sure. On both of my Diesel machines ( Early 80s tractor and 1990 Excavator) both have a fuel cutoff with the throttle, the key will not turn off the fuel delivery, only the throttle will shut it off, but these are older machines. I’m looking forward to part 2 🙂

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank u so much mike!! I know I can’t beleive it I try and take great care of the machines I own I think it’s more of the employees or renters that damage company equipment. It’s going to take a lot of work to get this old pig in the shape I want it but I’m glad I finally got a skid steer just hope I can get the throttle figured out, on my old Ford diesel tractor you pull a knob that shuts the engine off but I’m pretty sure this should cut off with the key from vids I’ve watched. Thank you so much for watching and commenting and all of the great videos and info you give!! Have a great one!

[@thesmallenginekid]

And its crazy how the previous owner put so much work into it fixing head gasket, just to hack in gauges and wires. It's like people only do electrical when they are drunk or something.

[@TheHomePros6221]

haha

[@jarroddraper5140]

@@thesmallenginekid the head gasket he had done the new gages he did

[@thesmallenginekid]

@@jarroddraper5140 The way the last guy put in the gauges was such a hack job. I have to give it to him the aluminum diamond plate mount is nice but the wires are just hanging on the side.

[@caseyjones6197]

Well I just seen you video. I was way off. I guessed $1500. Anyway I found when you started noticing all of the electrical problems and the way it was maintained I way thinking I’d just retire the entire machine. Then you know everything is good. Cudo’s to you on the HH eat Shrink Solder Sleeves. Don’t know why more people don’t use them. Great video.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you very much!! it wasn’t too too bad I just need a bigger shop

[@MrCooklw]

You sure do love saying, “…but who knows if that’s true or not.” In your defense, however, that is the world we live in.

[@TheHomePros6221]

🙂🙂lol

[@JourneymanRandy]

I think the knob on your left when sitting in the machine is a fuel shut off. All my Kubotas have a electric shut off solenoid. If the solenoid fails you use the manual fuel shut off. Nice little machine. When you get all the bugs out it should be great.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks for the info my friend

[@alkennedy1124]

400 dollars is what I would of gave for it 500 tops , good job thanks BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏

[@TheHomePros6221]

yea it would be hard to find one at that price but I fixed it up and it’s worth we’ll over what I paid now

[@alkennedy1124]

@@TheHomePros6221 so how much did you give for it ,!!! ? Thank I would entertain about twice that for it if you want to sell it , or if you find one ☝️ with not more than 80 hp it’s needs to be less the that hp ok thanks have a good new year ,,, we literally rained in the new year here in my town with sheets and then dump trucks of rain 🌧 lol thanks BigAl California

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@alkennedy1124 I paid 2850 but now that it’s restored I can sell it for much more than that it’s a very useful machine

[@alkennedy1124]

500 is what you payed lol nice thanks BigAl California

[@TheHomePros6221]

Nice guess big al

[@allan9603]

Darrell, check the entire air intake system for cracks, ant or mouse nests, broken components. These usually cause diesel engine runaway.

[@TheHomePros6221]

That’s a great idea!! I can’t see anything by looking at it but maybe I’ll dig further

[@larrybrewer6924]

Also check to see if there’s a vacuum line between the intake and the injection pump if so because of your butterfly valve is actually the throttle There may have a torn diaphragm in the pump that moves the rack or the fuel metering system telling the pump how much fuel to deliver If it’s torn it will possibly cause full throttle Fordson major tractors from England use a similar setup

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are completely correct!! diaphram was torn!!

[@allan9603]

@@TheHomePros6221 , yep that air intake and it's components are about the only areas where you will find reasons for a runaway where diesel engines are concerned.

[@manuallabor7193]

Butterfly should be a shout down. Throttle should be adjustable. Switch the two around and try it.

[@TheHomePros6221]

nice observation but its actually hooked up correct, ill try to explain more in part 2

[@ronaldclark1178]

Hey Darrel, don't know when this vid was posted, but on a diesel engine, rpm is controlled by fuel ,not air flow. Looks like the butterfly in the intake would just shut off air and kill the engine. Good luck with this beast. PS Great video!!

[@TheHomePros6221]

That’s what I thought to but it’s almost like it did nothing but make it run worse I’m thinking the rack or the governor is stuck? Thanks for watching

[@brianwynn5081]

Totally incorrect pneumatic governor system is used on this engine it's a 2J diesel in a 2sdk7 toyota, startup run and shut down are all controlled by the EDIC system looks like little wiper motor linkage to pump, due to all the wiring issues the edic system will not be working correctly

[@brianwynn5081]

@@TheHomePros6221 That butterfly is part of the pneumatic governor, has nothing to do with shut down

[@TheHomePros6221]

Brain thank you sooo much for this information!! So just say if everything is working correctly in the wiring what else could be causing the issues?

[@ronaldclark1178]

@@brianwynn5081 Thanks for the reply Brian, but why is the butterfly on a separate lever. The only diesels I have ever owned were Cummins, Cats, Ford Power Stroke, and Ford tractors with the Power Stroke and a 500 Cummins being the only ones drive by wire. PS I am 72 now so all were mechanical engines except for my last truck, a 2005 KW with a 500 Cummins and the Power Stroke. Again thanks! Never to old to learn. lol

[@terryg.537]

Was there not an original fuel shut off solenoid where the manual cable is now?, to shut it down... Shop Manuel is a must!... Good Luck.

[@TheHomePros6221]

I beleive there was on the original engine this is the same engine but it was out of a Toyota forklift

[@davesworkshop2714]

Great buy Darrell! Id love all that dodgy wiring. I get great satisfaction out of ripping out bad wiring 🙂. Sounds like that engine has the same set up as my dexta. The throttle linkage goes to a butterfly on the intake manifold and there is a vacuum line from there to a unit with a diaphragm on the pump that alters the fuelling. If the vacuum line is damaged, or the diaphragm is split, the revs will fluctuate. Theres a toyota forklift down the road that probably has the same engine so I can take a look tomorrow if no one else gives you an answer meanwhile. The cable to the pump is most likely just a stop cable. Great seeing you posting again buddy, hope all is well 🙂👍. I can't enter the give away but I'm still gonna guess $1350.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you so much Dave!!! Please do that if u can or send me a vid in my email, this engine actually came out of a forklift from what the seller told me

[@davesworkshop2714]

@@TheHomePros6221 No problem Darrell, I'll go look in the morning and send you some info.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yay thank you

[@KristaMae]

Swap out the long arm for the pull gizmo. Long arm onto short throw... Set up its travel so it's in the sweet spot. That big lever will be perfect once adjusted to that sweet spot. We just got a mechanical injection diesel truck and it's all on that one lever. Then on ours, the other side of the throttle arm has another lever that when you pull up on it, the pump shuts off and kills the engine. A spring is supposed to hold the lever up and an electric solenoid pulls down on it to let the engine get fuel. Our solenoid is dead and they swapped over the spring so is pulling it on and I have to push up on the lever to kill it.

[@TheHomePros6221]

it’s only a shut off not a throttle

[@KristaMae]

@@TheHomePros6221 on my diesel truck "it's both". I started "a real channel" called if life was easy... I'm going to make a video about the fuel pump for you with what I'm thinking. But that flappy thing could be an all or nothing shut off but not a throttle. Every revival video talks about blocking the intake to prevent a runaway. Overall, I'm going to stick to narrow range of engine speed is controlled by short end after pivot of long control arm. Then... To shut off, pull it that slightly longer throw of shut off.

[@KristaMae]

@@TheHomePros6221 well here's my video. I'm trying to figure out this whole KZbin thing. I need to get my dang phone off this old Gmail account 😆 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3u7aYCQhZyIsKs

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks you very much! I’ll explain a lil more in part 2

[@samuelbacon1596]

I Think you should only payed 2000.00 for the skid steer !!!!!!!!!! But am CHEAP. TAKE CARE. JUNKMANDO

[@TheHomePros6221]

Lol I’m also cheap haha great guess!

[@jimrt1738]

Your using the runaway ,shut off as a throttle ,there should be a electric shut off solenoid (needs power to it to run)but it looks like there’s a problem with the injection pump throttle linkage,great job on the wiring 👍.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u very much!! and u are correct this engine was out of a forklift and the cutoff solenoid is missing also the diaphragm in the injection pump was bad

[@joeblow1711]

I admire your patience

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank u my friend

[@ianpumphrey5041]

I think the hand throttle lock off thingy is aftermarket. It looks like a new throttle lever cable and fixings so its stable. Good luck!

[@TheHomePros6221]

it came out of a forklift

[@raptordan6851]

Off to a good start ! It will be a fine machine soon enough.

[@TheHomePros6221]

hope so!!

[@michaelramsey3986]

I was thinking you paid scrap on it. Lol

[@TheHomePros6221]

lol I wish

[@scottfoster2487]

The slide rack in the injector pump is stuck clearly. I am not envious of you doing that wiring job,did one like this on a loader,ended up building my own harness. Neat ol machine

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you soooo much!! The cable and arm move but could the rack still be stuck?

[@scottfoster2487]

@@TheHomePros6221 Yes,the slide regulates the fuel flow. There a few videos on you tube that show similar repairs. Since this has sat for a long time and has clear signs of neglect one needs to inspect everything .

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank u very much

[@davidwolff8878]

5500 OK OLDER diesels do not shut off with the key. it is only used to start . the butterfly you seen chokes off the air which is normal. it kind of looks like the throttle and air shut off are backwards, and way out of proper adjustment. key shutoff only works with electronic injection. i believe that one is mechanical. hope this helps

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you very much for the info!!

[@NilsKall]

Missed this upload completely! Didn’t get any notification or anything, weird. But then again have been working a lot recently so it might be me. Glad to se that you have so many views on this video, must be a great interest in this kind of machinery.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you so much nils!! I always appreciate your comments and everything!! hope all is well my friend!

[@MagdaWu]

Connect a 12V bulb between positive terminal and positive cable, then look for possible shortcuts. When bulb goes off, you found the cause of a shortcut. (Camarata's trick).

[@TheHomePros6221]

I do that but the power probe works even better I actually think Andrew uses a power probe also

[@jimnauber2627]

The top lever is the kill and or run away motor The lower that can lock is Throttle that runs to the governor or the injection pump Since there is no electronic injection it will not shut off with a key unless the fed has an electric fuel bump

[@TheHomePros6221]

manual states top is throttle it controls pneumatic governor and rack the knob is a fuel shutoff, basically closes the rack

[@alkennedy1124]

What is the blue race car ?? Is that for sale , what is it a street stock or late modal??? Thanks BigAl California

[@TheHomePros6221]

I’m not sure what car your talking about

[@alkennedy1124]

@@TheHomePros6221 there is a race car in the vlog of this machine all roll caged up with no body on it in the foreground that’s all , look at your vlogs and see things you didn’t see when you film them , you will see things you had no idea was there lol thanks BigAl California

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@alkennedy1124 oh yea that was the guys car who I bought this from im not sure if it’s for sale

[@jonasbalciunas9554]

i think there used to be solenoid shut off valve , so you stop the engine with a key. I got my old excavator the same problem, so i just left with a pull shut off, you just have to put it in a comfortable place in case of tip over or something.

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are completely correct it is missing fuel shutoff solenoid

[@turkeysandwiche8552]

I don’t care what anybody says but Toyota makes one hell of an engine

[@TheHomePros6221]

hell yea

[@josep.364]

Hi new to your channel, thier switch or button on the dash or handle that is high & low. That for the Idle, low idle is for starting it up, high idle is for when you are traveling or lifting the bucket or tilting the bucket. Just have to read the wire schematic regood!!! Best of luck.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank u very much my friend

[@boosteddiesel1834]

The flap on the intake isn’t a throttle body. It’s a diesel so that’s a shutdown valve. Vw would call it an anti shudder valve, on their cars it ensures a quiet smooth shutdown of the engine and also used with the egr valve and for Dpf regeneration. .The cable attached to your diesel pump will be the throttle cable.

[@TheHomePros6221]

I think it’s actually part of the pneumatic governor that controls the idle with a diaphram that I just found to be torn. hope this fixes my issue

[@arnoldromppai5395]

i love total re-wiring machines, i could sit for hours doing it,, i have also done a few older big trucks,, i dont leave even one old wire, that can fail.. later,, but you have to use a TWE wire, witch is copper tinned wire for the vibration they take, same wire that code on boats,,

[@TheHomePros6221]

I like wiring also, running new wires, soldering..ect, I’m actually a residential electrician BUT… I hate diagnosing and troubleshooting wiring issues

[@TheHomePros6221]

the wire I used is actually wiring that came off a boat that I stripped, so it’s good stuff

[@arnoldromppai5395]

@@TheHomePros6221 YES IT WOULD BE

[@texascottonfarmer]

My Massey Ferguson 231 diesel key switch will not shut the engine off. It has a fuel shutoff pull knob that shuts the engine off (separate from the throttle lever). Looks like your machine's fuel shutoff pull knob is working, but the throttle lever needs some tweaking.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yes my Ford 3000 diesel is the same way, but I’m pretty sure it should turn off with the switch from what I’ve seen online, I’m going to dig into it more thanks for the help my friend!!

[@markguido6882]

I know you can do it just think when it's all done it'll be just fine and you do it the way you need to do it and make it look beautiful I know you can do it

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks mark 🙂 check out my other vids on it I kinda restore it

[@geoffmay8082]

Observe the Edic Unit after crank cycle for return to the Run position

[@TheHomePros6221]

Someone took off the edic unit

[@haroldgetchelljr3264]

Pretty good work for a missed up wires

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks!!

[@kwinterburn]

never having seen one of these but 45 years as an engineers says the two controls are reversed the butterfly valve should be attached to the pull and the lever should be attached to the injection pump the butterfly looks like a device to stop the engine only like the Detroit have the flapper, the diesel engine should be full air all the time, the fuel pulse determines the power hence RPM

[@TheHomePros6221]

your concept is correct but it’s actually hooked up correct I’ll explain in part 2

[@kenhall3159]

It looks like the throttle and shutoff are hooked up bacwards!!! Also the air shutoff on top is not ussualy hooked up at all it is more used as an emergency shutoff you will figure it out shortly , look at another machines linkage, Ken

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks ken it’s actually hooked up correct, this is a pneumatic governor that uses the butterfly to move diaphragm and rack, I’ll explain in part 2

[@robsdeviceunknown]

Ok. I'm jealous. Been wanting to get my hands on a skid steer that's broke down like that for awhile. I have never driven one, but need one, so figured I would get a old broken down one, completely rebuild it, that way i know more about the machine itself.

[@TheHomePros6221]

man that’s awesome, I’ve been looking for awhile myself, there hard to find nowadays, keep looking u will find one 🙂

[@thomasstrickland0]

Whenever I experience a throttle that looks like that. If you turn the throttle knob left or right that adjust the idle. This has a manual shut off so you will not be able to cut it off with a key you’ll be able to cut it off like you have been.

[@TheHomePros6221]

yes sir

[@darellsunderlin4670]

One lever or push pull should be your fuel shut off if it a desiel . Does that have any type of fuel peddle on the floor ? I know my tractor has both a hand throttle and a foot throttle and the hand throttle has to be at least a quarter open before the foot throttle will work ,which makes it idle faster .

[@TheHomePros6221]

No pedal just two hand knobs thanks for the info!!

[@rick3090]

i also was thinking that i have used wiring roll on some repairs , used on travel trailers and usually 7 wires with a strong coating , that stuff is good where wire chafing is a problem.

[@TheHomePros6221]

thanks for the info!

[@christophersherratt7299]

Was watching your 3 videos on the tipper truck have a Look at sweet car projects some good ideas on rust and fixing broken dashboard

[@TheHomePros6221]

Cool, thanks

[@psdozer]

Many years equipment owner/operator. When I was young like you, I tried to rescue a “buy” like you are. Believe me, if he gave it to you, it’s not worth your time, effort, and money.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Right on

[@shawzall404]

I have a Hydramac and in the manual it tells you to pull the throttle all the way closed to kill the engine. Key is only for fuel pump and starter

[@TheHomePros6221]

yep on this the bottom knob u pull to shut off

[@edgarlira9595]

The butterfly valve is to kill the engine by cutting air to engine. The lever on the injection pump is your throttle control

[@TheHomePros6221]

check out my other videos on it if you get a chance

[@thomashenry4916]

I have had a number of the older models which starts with the key but a Pull switch to switch off. Some of the old tractors were like this

[@TheHomePros6221]

Yes I have a old Ford tractor that’s the same way, come to find out this isn’t the original engine, this one came out of a forklift

[@darinhodge8015]

Hey mate i had a toyota huski 8 the same from brand new in 1989 the lever you were moving in the left is suposed to be the throttle and the push pull cable knob was not factory looking foward to part two by the way that model earned the knickname bulletproof they were so reliable and never broke down toyota had to change the design

[@TheHomePros6221]

that’s awesome glad to hear

[@jamesbailey7785]

Your patience is awesome:)))

[@TheHomePros6221]

😊 thank you

[@legendaryone66]

Thank you first person ive seen in while actually solder wires instead of using shitty connectors

[@TheHomePros6221]

thank you soldering is the best way

[@Sethmetro]

Pretty sure that engine is a 4 cylinder version of a 2H found in land cruisers and coaster buses etc. Anyway on a 2H you have a Edic motor where your black knob kill/throttle is connected to on the injection pump.

[@TheHomePros6221]

you are correct, mine is missing

[@carloskawasaki656]

Thank you for sharing, another great project, I learn a lot 👍👍👍👍

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you!

[@steveaw5895]

Good luck with this mess. My nephew got a job as mechanic for a good sized landscape outfit. He’s been doing it since last fall and he has replaced three complete wireing harneses because they were too wasted to fix and the machine wasn’t near retirement. I’m gonna guess $1250.

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you so much Steve!! Great guess but a lil off ☹️

[@GRUBB-MUDD]

congrats on the video doing well, I watched it to the end and liked it. hope it helps

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thanks again!

[@denniskeuntjes6385]

Chasing problems down is a nightmare, doing good, what I would offer between 1500.00 to 1800.00 thats me good luck!

[@TheHomePros6221]

Thank you very much dennis