Age of Sigmar 4's BIGGEST Balance Update Yet! Have they fixed the game?

[@JesseDiMauro]

Hardest working man in AoS

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Trying for all wargaming!!!

[@aparslet]

Sexiest man in AOS too

[@khromas5392]

Hard agree, Rob is in fact the best.

[@scottmills4164]

Unfortunate that no one that works for GW would try as hard. 😕

[@StardragonGER]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I don't think you'll have Auspex beat anytime soon.

[@hugheja89]

I saw the article but thought nah I’ll wait for Rob’s vid. 👀

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Sorry it took so long

[@FrPeter81]

Default position for many of us 😊

[@gammafighter]

Sylvaneth changes are absolutely massive. You have my vote for a Sylvaneth deep dive video!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Ok let's go in

[@envaya9838]

@gammarighter new video when?

[@georgesutherlandhoward4417]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams Are you saying that... AWWWOOOOGH AWWOOOGAH IT'S A DEEP DOIVE?

[@kelakogreenaddict1888]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams one vote was all it took lmao

[@gammafighter]

@@envaya9838 soon!🤣🤣

[@BananaManDrew]

IMO the manifestation "balance" change is completely backward, because it has no effect on the person that is spamming all the manifestations. If you're playing against a low/no magic opponent then this isn't a change at all. It should have been a penalty to the cast roll for each one that's out, not a bonus to the banish roll.

[@umpac123]

I mean +1 CV doesnt do much when teclis or kairos is casting anyway. At least now with wild gone and +X to banish you can get rid of the most important one easier. 0-caster builds still bad but you could always PoP banish if you have heroes around. I would've liked to see a "max 1 manifestiation cast per battle round"-rule to prevent people from pushing them out faster they opponent can shut them down and just clog the board, which is my main issue with them.

[@BananaManDrew]

@@umpac123 I get what you're saying, but that's something that can be tuned separately. Powerful wizards could be adjusted to only get their bonuses when casting from their spell lore, not manifestations. The penalty could be -2 or -3 per manifestation you already have out. Bottom line is that, for this type of balancing, the burden should be on the player that is trying to summon multiple manifestations

[@disardor]

You missed something on blades of khorne. Skarbrand and the lord of Khorne can now take any units, they aren't locked to just mortals or demons. Which is huge for list writing.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

ty for that!! Thats ace

[@nathanielball3719]

Thanks for pointing that out! That's awesome. I kept trying to write a list with Skarbrand because he's such an awesome model, but he didn't fit nicely! This helps.

[@Baconlazer]

Skarbrand being able to have an Honor Guard of Blood Warriors and Skullcrushers, AND the 12" of +1 to hit and Wounds on them from shooting is a bigger deal than a lot of people assume is.

[@klo45pl]

My 35% win rate ghouls got nerfed

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Rough and love ya

[@guillaumetalbot9191]

i feel you brother, but hey heroes and monsters with bad warscroll cost less. We still won't play them but they cost less.

[@reschke5]

In the future id love to see videos have a time stamp of when a specific faction gets talked about

[@Jumbo731]

My Rotbringer list went down 110 points from 1980. So I was able to add a unit of Rotmire Creed, which is awesome!

[@Mithlinthar]

The Shining Company/Power of Hysh is nerfed more than you think, actually. You choose these facets at the start of the Battle Round. If you want to choose Power of Hysh on your Main Hammer Unit, you must be prepared to not having a Shining Companty on them, even if you're going as a Second. That will be an opportunity for your opponent to heavily damage or destroy your hammer (especially with shooting).

[@kraye0789]

Shoutout for your comments at the end! Im not currently doing any tourneys so I tend to eyeroll alot at the comments on updates but you 100% right, im not shooting for Top 3 of a big tourney and if anything my favorite units have gone down in points. Ill get out there and have some great battles

[@cooljoe500]

I wish Ironjawz waagh would affect their companion weapons as well. poor piggies :(

[@JohnK_]

55:40 for the "There Is No Escape" ability, I'm not sure where in the rules it says that a player can only use an ability (without restrictions) once? WarCom does say it affects one unit; I just never saw this in the rules

[@SirGallager]

You're the best Rob! Thank you for these Video's, the wife and I appreciate being able to watch and listen together to you. Your way of informing and breaking things down is very helpful and keeps us going in the hobby.

[@Bybolc]

Thanks for ending the way you did. Always important to remember the game is fun and not get lost in the worry of the top meta tournament armies.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@madsbrynnum]

Wouldn't a limit of 1 on manifestations controlled per wizard fix some of the issues with eg Teclis swarming the board with endless spells?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yes that's a solid idea too

[@madsbrynnum]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I'd love to take credit, but I'm pretty sure I saw it in a Reddit thread or on a battle report here on YT. Personally I like the manifestations. I love the idea of troops going "Oh shit, we have to fight a sun. Again.", but I agree that they - and especially Morbid - takes up too much real estate in the battles. So I hope they nerf them a bit more.

[@GormanDev]

Thanks for the videos Rob! I'm new to AoS, after being a 40K collector for many years. After watching your videos, I've summoned the confidence to head to my first event next weekend, with my newly assembled army. Thanks again!

[@TheApple176]

Ironjawz change is wonderful; I’m already trying to think of lists that lets me waaagh every turn, and what each turn’s target would look like. Also makes the Ardboyz boss great since he adds an extra waaagh to any regiment.

[@eritcus1718]

I got into Flesh eater court at the start of 4th edition and its really making me second guess picking them up. Hope they get a bit of love. :( Haven't won a game with them yet.

[@Hu9DS24]

You are a machine sir! Single handedly keeping my entire playgroup up to date on the state of the game!

[@vagabondbarbarian8961]

Call me crazy, but i think the little speech at the end about having fun was the best and most important part of this video. Great work, as always mate.

[@binslagala]

Great vid! What's the name of the page that you show @21:40? Looks cool

[@martynzuidema]

Love this summary! Saves me reading while painting up all the units that aren’t great atm 😅

[@KrysusCentral]

Great video. I love your ability to articulate your opinion and break down changes that either don't make sense or are a bit confusing. Personal Opinion: I do like manifestations. I do think they are in a semi-toxic state, but I think visual reprsentations of spells are sweet. I think they were massively over costed last edition, and right now we are dealing with an over reaction the other way. I'd be very sad to see them go. I'm not sure they can balance them without adding points. What I'd like to see: -Faction manifestations are free. It's what makes your army unique. -Non-faction manifestations are point costed, but stay in those groups. You buy a package. I'd also like to keep the costs low, 100pts or less. And you always will compare to your faction manifestations. -I'd probably target 1 non-faction manifestation to be free to help the factions that don't have any.

[@alias-yv2ro]

Mangler squigs didn’t even get points reductions lol. Gloomspite gitz win rate are gonna tank. The squig part of the army is still bad, the spider part is also still bad even with points reductions. People are still gonna take 18 rockguts and whatever else. What a nothing burger of a update

[@Kimtanashino]

100 % agree

[@ianhawkins5884]

It's criminal that manglers didn't come down significantly, though I'd rather have a stats update to them. I'd argue that squigherds are in a good place, they're glass cannon but have massive recursion. Paired with a squig boss they can pump out 15-20 mortal wounds on the charge with frightening regularity. Boingrots could do with a bit of a drop, they're OK at best. Never used hoppers. Grotz need an overhaul as there's almost no point taking stabbaz or shootaz at the moment and their character support and battle formation are trash

[@espresso8925]

" Makes the Games works better " 😂. You mean make more Money

[@Enchaladaaa]

legitimately thinking with these points increases and kragys reduction itll be krag/rockgut meta nothing else.

[@khromas5392]

@@ianhawkins5884 Admittely, I'm a filthy casual, but I love my hoppers and bounders. Hoppers are great for sneaky objective grabbing.

[@mistformsquirrel]

Leviadon, Allopex and Thrall coming down is kinda nice. Not like, amazing, but those are all key units of my army. That said I don't think it's quite enough to add an extra unit so >< ultimately not much help. I really feel like every army needs like, some sort of tiny filler unit, be it a cheap hero or a small squad of critters or something, just so you can fill in those awkward 50-70 point gaps if you want. YMMV

[@lordinquisitor838]

Leviadon being 10 more than Ushoran is hilarious

[@suspecthalo]

14:16 Something to note about this though is that with Wildform gone from it the banishment makes it easier to remove as instead of doing damage it will delete it now.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I agree but people still need to get it off

[@suspecthalo]

@@thehonestwargamerstreamsdeleted previous comment, misread something in the update. Thought Krondspine lost it as well, which would make these changes more important to armies that run that.

[@timothy2c]

The problem with these points balance updates is that it’s strictly for the players who play in tournaments. The casual players who take months or even years carefully constructing and painting their armies get completely screwed.

[@malcolmcurrie7542]

The player who takes months or years to get their army to the board isn't going to notice or care about these changes. If minor points changes make you consider scrapping a whole army, you're a meta chaser, not a painter.

[@timothy2c]

Tell that to my freshly painted Furries that no longer fit in my 2000 point Slaves army..😢

[@HobbyJackal]

Super helpful as ever! Thanks for doing this for all of us :) 🙌

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

No worries!

[@tobiasnenseter8044]

If they where to make manifistations to a 1 cast per wizard they would have to give moste lores more spells to cast. Could be cool if you only have one manistifation spell per battleround, but all spell lores got bigger

[@georgesutherlandhoward4417]

Sylvaneth are back babeeeee!

[@biowiener7825]

great video, as for your ending question about manifestations, i think they can be free but more restricted, for once skaven with a lore that looks like a deathwizards lore just feels wrong. also maybe make the spells or some of them only be casted once per game, i hate the spamming free stuff which is also sometimes better than actual units which can just be replaced as soon as they get killed. i want to fight the enemies models, not the same 4 manifestations over and over again, it only gets worse when both opponent play morbid conj and the game is just 8 endless spells fighting each other while the rest is doing battle tactics and not engage in anything. sure it doesnt have to be all meele combat but the way most of the current tactics are written it feels like im getting punished for fighting my opponent, maybe im just bad ofc

[@deadwoodlake4718]

Read the article and it didn’t all sink in. So thank you for this, find it so much easier to digest.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Im glad!!

[@RealJahzir]

Same here. Super grateful for Rob and the whole Honest Wargamer Community

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

@@RealJahzir Really needed to hear this today so thankyou

[@adamwickenden9133]

Same as

[@TheApple176]

It is wild to me that they still haven’t walked back on manifestations being free; points are such an easy (and sometimes lazy) way of providing internal balance, without points they are going to have to keep rewriting the warscroll.

[@KcBull]

Why are fellwaters bad? I thought the save debuffs from their shooting is a nice effect? Am I missing something?

[@jackofn0trades29]

On the manifestation front, I think it would be interesting to make each spell cost around 10 to 90 points individually as “filler” for lists with uneven points. in addition, remove the idea of “lores” where spells are grouped together. Faction specific manifestations would just be locked to that particular faction, but as a whole you could pick and choose which spells you want. There is probably a whole myriad of balance issues that I’m just not thinking of, but that’s how I would change it.

[@A_Very_Happy_Toad]

Great review thank you Rob. One day I will use your guidance and actually play a game of Sigmar😅

[@schala99]

Sylvaneth deep dive - yes please!!! We need the attention. I do well when I play but, man, the game is not fun and feels overly long as I try to consider all of my constraints. Sylvaneth has always been a finesse army, but the high stakes with our Wyldwoods and the amount of measuring radius from the Wyldwoods has gone to new heights. A few Sylvaneth builds are good right now due to the meta but we have very little internal balance and I just don’t feel like there’s any good synergy between units and heroes. Getting rid of our model recursion via verdurous harmony and having completely useless items needs to be discussed, too. And that’s not even getting into the treelords, who at 4+ to hit are not really able to do any meaningful damage in combat even against 110-point units.

[@stefanguggenberger9836]

I think the nerf to Manifestations is not enough. I would like to see a change so you cannot summon a manifestation with magical intervention. Summoning manifestations in the enemy turn can make it very difficult to do battle tactics, especially with no bonus to unbinding rolls.

[@jonpeacock5580]

As a tzeench player I am glad they didn't make honor guard melee only. my main grievance with burning has been fixed love the sylvaneth changes nighthaunt change makes sense though slightly makes me sad lol yes I have those three armies, I swear I don't have a problem

[@sashashadowhive6128]

Add Soulblight and DoK and you got my collection

[@jonpeacock5580]

@@sashashadowhive6128 don't know about your but I also got 40k stuff (and some DoK because I love the look of the snake models

[@Fadeing]

Nice and thorough all around. Great close out mention to have fun and not over stress.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Malisteen]

re: terrifying entity, it used to be only usable by the mounted knight of shrouds, since no other generic hero met the requirements for two dread abilities. now it's usable by any generic hero other than the mounted knight of shrouds. a bit if an upgrade, but what it really needs is to give the hero the option to use shriek without outnumbering, either that or the option to use a dread ability that has alreafy been used that turn, though the latter change might require a 1/game restriction.

[@phillipverduzco6952]

A slight misread of the Hedonites ability. They do not have to reroll it. If they they roll a 1 or a 2, they take the damage, AND they have to use the result rolled rather than gain a 6. So for example if someone uses 2 dice for a charge, and they roll say a 4 and a 2 on the temptation dice, they will take D3 damage and the result of their charge would be an 8. (6 & 2). The 1 or 2 roll on the temptation dice becomes the value of the replaced roll.

[@CaringClover]

I will never not make a suprised pikachu face when my factions degenerate reanimation gets nerfed

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Hahahaha

[@DocStab]

Seen the update and got excited to hear the Honest take on it. Great job as always!

[@Trolleri87]

And i agree about the manifestations. I rather they lowered the points overall so we can bring more of the models that we want because i don't want those ugly spells filling the entire board.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Same

[@spatzilly]

Yep, I can't bring myself to pay money for them. Warhammer is about the models first, at least to the extent of inspiring the battlefield. The Chinese production manifestations are blights

[@inuendo1000]

​@@spatzilly, they're made in UK

[@spatzilly]

@@inuendo1000 oh I thought differently. They gotta scrap those and either make them look good or just delete

[@awesomemusicstudio]

Every video you make, is always very useful. This is for sure the best overall resource for AOS on the internet. So thanks again for the nice video.

[@nuttyknatty]

Great video as always, Rob😍. Really appreciate the sentiments at the end.👍👍

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Glad you enjoyed it and watched to the end

[@GypsyDaenger]

Sad ghoul noises. They essentially nerfed the throne as well. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[@PaoloTrepiccione]

You're never going to balance a game that has sales driving every design decision.

[@BrianWilliams-po8rm]

The "big nerf" mentioned about Nighthaunt's Heroic Trait "Terrifying Entity" is actually a decentbuff. It used to say that you could use two Aura of Dread abilities on a single hero, but that hero needed to have the proper keywords. The only hero this worked on was the Knight of Shrouds on Etherial Steed, since he was the only hero that had the Cavalry keyword to trigger the -1 to save Aura of Dread (and Reiknor is Unique, so can't take the trait). Now any non-unique hero can take this, and while they can't trigger multiple Auras, they can trigger whatever aura you need at the time. Although, the ongoing problem is that Ruler of the Spectral Hosts still eclipses the others (1cp to rez a dead unit at 1/2 strength in your movement phase), so Terrifying Entity is still going to see very little play, imo.

[@bilobeutlin7400]

Hi, like ever, great Video, thanks a lot for your work. :) One question : what are the changes by nurgel Blob ? His spell was pretty bad and it looks like its the same as before.?

[@dillonhansen3839]

Love the slaanesh buff, a small change like that just make their ability significantly better

[@joehill6916]

Would be good to see playing your own faction’s manis incentivised more

[@Ayra_arts]

The cannot summon a manefestation that was removed the same turn is also huge for the interaction between Banish and magical intervention. No longer banishing the gravetide, just to have it fly over you next turn anyway.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah I agree but does that really matter when 4 are on the board?

[@tomboy4567]

This is top knotch content ! This kind of passion and analysis is wild and apreciated !

[@baphometsvomitcomet2350]

Oh man, having a 5 warbosses on mawkrusha army, calling it the 7 Samorruks (they started recruiting 7 warbosses, but started bashing each other's heads in when they couldn't agree what number comes after 5)

[@joseignaciobasciani8159]

Thank for the hard and smart work buddy!! Keep it up🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Thanks! Will do!

[@RasElclair]

I've been using Lyrior to give a 20 brick of sentinels all out attack for free when using covering fire as it has the attack keyword.

[@katherinepeterson714]

Really liked your comment at the end. Go have fun with your mates. Nuff said 😊

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Thanks for being the few who watch till the end

[@davidcanty7903]

Glad Morbid got nerfed.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Not enough in my opinion

[@CaringClover]

"Nerfed"

[@theengine]

It did not

[@Enchaladaaa]

still going to be the heavy meta honestly

[@jarradbarrick1698]

Where’s the stats show? I wanted to hear your analysis of the MiGT 😢

[@Feonos]

Hello, what is the website that Robb uses for seeing warscrolls and rules please ?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Ageofindex

[@chrish1645]

No Spearhead changes review. 1/5 stars....

[@sub-optimalwargaming9311]

this is the real crime no one is talking about.

[@Creed3737]

Still to play, is it unbalanced?

[@sub-optimalwargaming9311]

@@Creed3737 a few teams are def bit stronger than others, but its not huge, and really feels like it comes down to the player. I don't think it's an under an hour game as advertised, but it still a pretty breezy 90 minute one. My fav GW product at the moment

[@markpandelidis2079]

I like the change to Slanesh. Makes it much more fun and spicy. If you roll a 1 or 2 you replace 6 with that roll and take D3 damage. It's actually quite a good change.

[@jasonmclaughlin5647]

The change for manifestations next time around....has to be where you can't cast them in opp's turn

[@aaronpowell8398]

Deepkin thralls could be 80 points and I wouldn't take them. Complete garbage

[@TombKingTristan]

Gluttons OP and I’m happy they’ve been dealt with. Rob is just BIASED against a lithesome silhouette

[@GhostGuitars]

Skim through the article, think I understand it. Rob proves otherwise! Aprreciate the videos, Rob

[@hollowsoul3198]

Talking about deep striking next to faction terrain, I feel like that would make Wyldwoods a nightmare.

[@BloodKraven]

Love this, maybe make manifestations spells a fixed casting value so cannot benefit from pluses to cast this would make it easier to limit every army.

[@sub-optimalwargaming9311]

Wait, I can run Kragnos and THREE big boys now? Christmas has come early for my lazy ass!

[@Argonaut80]

As a person just getting into tabletop, how the hell do you know what the latest rules are? I’m casually painting Lumineth right now, and I spent a solid hour yesterday just trying to figure out if a new battletome is coming out soon, and I couldn’t find anything. I couldn’t figure out which books are which version. Is Games Workshop just terribly disorganized? I’m almost ready to quit, and I’ve never even played yet.

[@joncarr5545]

Not even remotely true that people won’t take double turns after this. Aggro armies easily tank the -4 points, max score primary and continue to smash you.

[@willskiv4938]

My question about the Vengeful Skullroot is seeing as the name "Awakened Wyldwood" doesn't differentiate between being 1 piece or 3 piece, they're all "Awakened Wyldwood", does this mean I can count the Skullroot as being a 3 Piece Awakened Wyldwood to give it a 12" aura for the traits

[@jameswilson6328]

thanks for the review rob great work :-) - Im an ogor player and yeah the changes hurt lol

[@DJMexiMelt]

Nighthaunt are stealth buffed from the nerf to special assignment: priority target.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Agreed

[@Shabboi]

Ironjawz eating well, boyz

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Go eat king

[@cameronthompson7314]

My thinking was that Manifestation law should count as a drop or even as a Aux unit.

[@tombrowning3384]

Brilliant video Rob. As an opinion to the monthly FAQ's and quarterly balance updates; It is not appealing for starting hobbyists and those without the abundance of time to invest. I've had Lumineth since they were released in lockdown. Due to life, gaming priorities and opportunity, I'm only now giving them a proper go. I had a 1500pt list that I managed to play 2 games with in AOS4. Wanted to play more & bigger games so dropped a sizeable chunk of cash to bring the list up to 2K. Within a week of having the models at my house, not built or painted I hasten to add, the list I intended is now over 2K and therefore illegal. I can't use all the models I brought, in one list. I'm seriously considering not continuing with AoS. What is healthier for the game; Growing the player base? Or, maintaining the "balance" for the competitive environment?

[@Ceci10811]

"The numbers department doing loads of LSD" comment is making too much sense.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

It's just close to true

[@luiziry]

Man the burning sigil went from zero to hero

[@wrongix6544]

I love that endless spells dont cost points... but i understand that they have problems so idk

[@Skinnyperegrine]

I think Skaven will be interesting, lots of internal problems with some units being too much (270pt hellpit is hilarious), and externally jezzails are nerfed but we have the absolute blender unit in doom flayers and the weapon teams seem promising. Really have no clue where the rats will be!

[@Malisteen]

torgillius still one of the best minor heroes in the game.

[@ZandTibor]

Torgillius shoot was swingy... whit hes two nerfs i think he need point reduction?!

[@Vyrullax]

The man, the machine, the honest wargamer

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Machine man and myth

[@lordinquisitor838]

I don't think the LRL charge nerf does much as whatever the horses touch is usually dead

[@SpooKimi]

I feel I might be one of the very few players that gained something from the "buffs" we got as my list dropped by 80 points but that might be because I run 4 non hero dragons 😅

[@theWolfnMiniatures]

Monthly updates seems like a lot of book keeping for TO's and event judges. I think it'd be fine if they saved them up for a quarter.

[@crg1850]

I'm so happy this is posted as I can't read

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Me either

[@grahammann7933]

They actually made FeC even worse 😂

[@nigeltownley7472]

I just want the murknob to become a mob wrangler 😢

[@X.davidWilliams]

Huzzah & Hell'sYeah! Thank you, thank you.

[@38crippler]

For khorne, more points is more squads for more blood points. Good change imo

[@CapOfXav]

Blood tithe for the blood throne

[@caroluscitra]

I went to drink beer after this FAQ, I am not going to say anything else

[@michaelchampion936]

Seeing how the game I got completely smashed in, was my Maggotkin vs his Nighthaunt, I'm happy.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I'm glad!!

[@rambosquirrel6943]

Gave me a free unit of gryph hounds in my stormcast army so happy days :)

[@piotrjeske4599]

100 pts less for the Not Shaggoth. That is a bit drop. SCE drops are odd. Lowering of points for stuff, that isn't taken because of rules and synergies, and some stuff going legends. Also classic GW move with, we wrote a bad core rule, two armies abuse it ...lets punish all shoting. Including raptors for SCE , which are the thing that carries SCE.

[@cmleibenguth]

And not particularly well given SCE win rates

[@rotm4447]

and longstrikes are always the thing people call OP when they mention prio target despite winning exactly nothing.

[@revandriel9233]

None of the other Honourguard abilities work well for shooting units. So if Priority Targets was changed to exclude shooting, I have no idea what armies like KO would pick.

[@sashashadowhive6128]

Just charge your shooting units for that +1 rend 😂

[@theDackjanielz]

As a Gnoblars player i shall continue to Gnoblars. Thank you.

[@Ghislain82]

Auspex Tactics of AoS 😅

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Hope I'm more entertaining

[@kendrickwhite4868]

Way more entertaining. That man reads from power point lmao

[@Baconlazer]

​@thehonestwargamerstreams Definitely more entertaining and informative

[@olafolafsson2755]

auspex tactics creates great content but it's horribly presented xD I can't listen to him without getting irritated

[@Ghislain82]

@thehonestwargamerstreams I did mean my comment as a compliment. Auspex is my go-to channel for all 40k news. You are now that for AoS. Didn't expect so much hate for Auspex 😅