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[@Glatzel132]

The „it was only a cm or so off“ part got me good! That‘s about 1/3 of an inch and would make quite a disturbing roll and destroy the lane pretty fast, i guess!

[@r.t.8367]

Had the same thought... I think he meant millimeter lol

[@TheHouseBowling]

The first video was a big ridge 😂😂

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

He likely meant mm.

[@Skdjdjdjsjxjxjd]

@@TheHouseBowling just from watching throw the ball first game 1-3 frames I can tell that, that ball has amazing handling and control whats the balls name again? 🤔

[@ElvisElgarEllis]

Us Americans and the metrics system... 😂

[@ChaseRanItUp]

Watching your channel made me get back into bowling after an 8 year hiatus. Keep the good content coming! 🔥

[@TheHouseBowling]

Glad you’re back in to it!!!

[@attackonzach]

I would love to see Brunswick make another ball like this. it's an interesting concept and with the popularity of urethane in the pba currently it might be something.

[@theinsaneshecklador6598]

Dual material coverstocks were banned after the two Quantum balls were made.

[@brianlevandowski3167]

Yup now they add a powder to create pearl Covers , and use less to make it appear hybrid like its still has solid left in it. Truth is a ball is solid or pearl Hybrid is just the appearance but it's actually pearl once any of the powder is on the mix. Back in the day pearl was actual pearl like solid is actual solid.

[@KingOfTVBowling]

The one we rolled flipped quick, didn’t stay on the stripe long at all. . But didn’t thump or have the issues you experienced. Great stuff enjoyed it.

[@jessnicholascenterfireecon8382]

You've got to fix this thing so you can throw at least one shot with it when PBA League starts. It would bring the house down if you did. As others have said, I too had one of these back when it was new and even then you could hear the surface transition a bit when it was getting on/off the stripe. The red/blue Double Helix didn't do it as badly.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Sooo…I should drill my red and blue one??

[@jessnicholascenterfireecon8382]

@@TheHouseBowling Wow, didn't know you had one of those too ... I'll say this, I liked my black/gold better than the blue/red but most people were the opposite. And my teammate (a lefty) had a blue/red and absolutely killed with it for about 3-4 seasons, including at Nationals. The stripe has a slightly different shape if I remember correctly. The black/gold one just looks cooler going down the lane. I hate the technology didn't catch on. I have heard in more recent years that the way the ball was made was it was poured all-black resin at first, then the stripe area lathed into it and poured, then sanded down one ball at a time. I always thought it was just a three-stage pour from the bottom up. Can you imagine the amount of time each ball would have taken to make? Yeez.

[@janderson8401]

Yes, Packy should use it at least one frame against the Waco Wonders who have Parker and WRW on the roster!

[@justmakingthistoreply5085]

Can you throw it if it’s over 2 years old?

[@jessnicholascenterfireecon8382]

@@justmakingthistoreply5085 Good question. In this ball's case, I think you can ... when I've seen it categorized in the past, I've always seen it called a reactive ball. But Packy would certainly need to have it confirmed. Of greater concern is whether it violates any roundness/circumference rules due to the issues with the stripe.

[@danmccook1291]

Great Ball! Packy you might try finer grits for a longer period of time. Keep in mind that resin and urethane sand at different rates, so the more you sand that ridge will remain, but finer grits for a longer period might minimize the difference. Good Luck for a friend of Brad’s.

[@odnxrogue5975]

It’s so cool to see where modern day hybrid balls got their ideas, with having the different color resins are different types of material

[@georgefinneyiv3922]

Dude I'm so happy you posted this today. I wanted to see you fix the ball and roll it like immediately after the first video lol. Such a cool ball ! Can't wait to see it again!

[@laytonasmus6348]

I love bowling videos, because 1/4 of the video is talking about fixing issues, and the 3/4 of the video is watching someone else bowl, and the strike sounds are so satisfying haha

[@joshg218]

Surface it again for a while at 500... it should have no ridge. I had a few of these back when they were new. You needed revs or low speed to make it work

[@thomasmarlow5671]

Can you check the hardness on the ball and see if there is a difference between the urethane and the reactive sides

[@traviskirk3834]

For me it sounds like it could be going over the finger inserts. On my forest green quantum if I release too soon or too late it makes a rumble sound and I watch the next shot and saw it was the fingers.

[@TheHouseBowling]

I can see the track and it wasn’t on the fingers it was just the difference in materials!

[@TehDrewsus]

Packy do you guys have a wood lane bowling center near The House? Would be neat to see how some of those older balls combined with the modern releases would react on wood lanes.

[@dfwait14]

I remember Walter Ray in tournament on tv throwing that ball. Nothing but a gimmick. Urethane and reactive combined.

[@rodennis418]

Sill fun to watch that ball roll. Really wish I'd have kept mine.

[@pablolacruz2652]

You could isolate the yellow portion by putting the ball on a ball spinner and using a 220 wet or dry pad just apply pressure to the yellow stripe.

[@baseball_rocks]

Ball definitely looks sexy going down lane. Plus it's at least moving for you now after the work you did to it. Cool vid!

[@planojoejr1]

I remember when this ball came out pretty sure it rambled back then. I would think you would have a hard time getting it perfectly smooth by sanding it because of the 2 different material types.

[@brianlevandowski3167]

Send it over to the coach Dr Will Clark aka the Puma guy located inside River rand bowl @ Des Plains Illinois “Bowlers ER Proshop” He will need to do a trick of the trade resurfacing job using a straight razor and his fingers while it’s on a ball spinner.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Or put it on the hoss for another 20 min

[@brianlevandowski3167]

Another 20 mins because you already did that. Sometimes it takes man power.

[@TheHouseBowling]

@@brianlevandowski3167 😂😂

[@Double007Gaming]

packy new league ball!!!!!! DO IT!!!!

[@ToxicYT]

4:42 Ayo?

[@justinc5998]

We need an update vid to see if another round on the Haus machine did the trick and make the Helix roll as smooth as it would have 20+ yrs ago without the ridge!!

[@jasonsmith3537]

How are you liking that widow plastic? Has the gas mask core in it and been wondering how it rolls for a spare or.....?

[@nickwilson3199]

You fouled at 9:10 🤣

[@TheHouseBowling]

Idk what you’re talking about 😅😅

[@Davey31G]

Just found one of these in an abandoned locker, they were great back in the day

[@ecobb20]

You are very entertaining!!!

[@Archk1]

Writing my comment at about 2/3 of the way through. You have to roll the ball the way it was intended. Down and in was the way the game was played years ago. Flatten your hand and go down and in and the ball shouldn’t make any noise. When you hear nothing, you’re throwing it the way it was designed. You da man Packy! Great educational videos with something to think about.

[@jimk9290]

A friend of mine just bought a NIB Quantum Bias, to go with his Quantum Red, which he throws just about all the time. These are very good balls for THS.

[@Bjaardker]

FWIW, the helix always had that kinda thumpy sound, I had always assumed that it was due to the two kinds of surface having different hardness.

[@robbignell1629]

Great Video Packy, very interesting !

[@SubZero0127]

3:36 How much you take off that ball! It looks like a marble next to the other ball!😂

[@mikes5918]

What you may be hearing are the two distinct pitches of the materials as then grip the lane. think: slip/grip/slip/grip etc...Unless you can feel a ridge, and fingers are very good at picking up extremely small differences in height like that, I would bet there will not be much more to gain from extra surface treatment.

[@Flamingpins]

Can you blend it with a razor blade like we do plug?

[@erici9025]

Try going a few minutes with the cutting wheels then use surface to bring it back up. The cutting wheels I believe are what they use after plugging a ball to help smooth it over.

[@jvmiller1995]

My pro shop guy has had 3 but they all have split. He loved his and wishes he can find another. I still want to meet you by Chandler one day and roll the 101ft lane. Also excited today myself as I rolled my first 300 today. 😁😂😁 Last day on league too, 😅😅

[@joepalmer9877]

Great video !!

[@joshg218]

Drill an OG fire Quantum please. The content would be money. WRW JR. was unbeatable with that ball.

[@Matts10100]

I’m honestly surprised they haven’t remade this ball yet. The original idea was for the urethane and reactive strips to give you that combined urethane/reactive motion. We now have urethane/reactive hybrid coverstocks that do that. Would probably be a big seller to release a ball with this color scheme using a new hybrid coverstock like that.

[@iceman5117]

It's illegal

[@jefftiquia]

@@iceman5117 Where does it say that this is illegal? The helix and double helix are in the list of approved balls and were never taken off.

[@iceman5117]

@@jefftiquia dual material covers are banned

[@jefftiquia]

@@iceman5117 Where does it say this, can you show me?

[@iceman5117]

@@jefftiquia page three of the equipment specifications and certification manual

[@carnoustie1953]

Old school technology from the 90s....around your birth year....now I feel old lol

[@russellgilbert3453]

You DO have the yellow urethane stripe on right side of the finger holes, right?

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk to tech bowling ball the house bowling packey Brunswick quantum Felix with dynamic core technology in the bowling ball more strike and spares hitting power at time

[@GhostofKaiser]

Switching out to the Widow Viz for spare ball? Nice choice there.

[@SteveSmith-mx1bu]

So would this ball be legal to use in pba tournament

[@Erick-yl3zi]

You did good kid, great save. Thumbs up as usual.

[@traviskirk3834]

Nice spare ball

[@rieskame]

The rich kid in my youth bowling league had one and I was so jealous! I picked up a white Quantum Bias a couple years ago, but not nearly as cool.

[@sebastiancastillo4114]

for a two hander right handed... i just started not too long ago. but i been getting better, i have a brunswick rhino, a burner pearl, and ive been debating between purple hammer or rubicon uc3 can someone enlight me plz

[@johnbcodes]

That deflection at 6:20 tho 😨

[@TheHouseBowling]

👀🤫

[@Tankboyblue]

THANK GOD YOU FIXED IT!

[@patricknoonan3610]

I do hear the little rumble.

[@keithboyle7128]

Will this be legal in the pba and other tournaments with the new two year urethane rules??

[@BAWSS_Life]

How’s that black widow viz a ball though

[@charlesgerlach7059]

a great ball, l had one back in the day was wild throwing it but once used to its roll it was amazing

[@cjbruhhh32]

what kind of dv8 ball is it btw????

[@keatoncrandall2471]

Throw it with the Lumberjacks! Take it all the way, then make Randy mention it on the televised match.

[@MrOsmodeus]

the lip might be gone but the ball might not be 100% spherical now. that might have been a job for a lathe rather than a glorified orbital sander. as for taking it on tournament, would it pass the regulations for a modern tournament? personally the two materials thing might not like temperature changes so i'd keep it as a special occasions thing

[@billburcell8704]

rumble is the ball rolling over finger holes i believe???

[@Calzone.]

Woooooooo

[@r.t.8367]

I wanted this ball so bad in high school... The kid who's family owned the bowling alley had it and I was so jealous!

[@DanceVids]

Exactly me too. It's still as cool today as it was back then. Just seeing it the case was incredible but that $400 price tag was tough especially for young adults. I think it would be a great display piece, if you don't use it show it off.

[@georgefinneyiv3922]

Also, you should do an interview with Sean Rash and get his opinion on the ball and toss it on here for our entertainment 😉

[@babydriver6860]

I too, have a $500 ball after drilling. Sure could use your help setting up my 6-ball arsenal. I'm looking to get back into the game using what I currently have and build up a newer arsenal as I go. I'm a lefty, balanced tweener. Can you please assist me?

[@jmorphius3619]

Pretty sure that ball was around 1500 back in the day. 5k wasn’t a thing until about the last 10 years.

[@odellus]

they're two different grit systems. 5K FEPA is something like ~1100 grit ANSI.

[@Kawboy65]

Go around the whole ridge with a plug cutter. 😂

[@ethebowler4775]

Who else is here before 50 views

[@tall_midget17]

Got here at 116 so not me

[@horseshoe_nc]

When I started the video, view count of 25, now way past that.

[@raymonduelk6567]

Yes, you fouled

[@TheHouseBowling]

Haha 👀🤫

[@raymonduelk6567]

@@TheHouseBowling I watched it 3 times, just to make sure

[@alexfisher2002]

Were you not shooting your spares? 5:13 definitely edited spares…

[@sololegit]

My jaw just legit hit the floor at that stone 5. What in the F U C K

[@TheHouseBowling]

🥲

[@BornIn1500]

stone 5's don't exist. It was a weak 5 that deflected too much off the head pin. I mean, lets not equate this to when Packy leaves a real stone 9 pin.

[@mikemueller8807]

I know you have no control over it, but the 60k sub contest video has a spammer commenting on people's comments (wow...me fail english) saying they have been selected. Just a heads up

[@TheHouseBowling]

Deleted it on the last one I appreciate the help!

[@jefferyboring4410]

Spin it on the old spinner and isolate the urethane. Just spin that down a bit before the hoss or whatever that things called

[@denmanfite3156]

Centimeter? Pretty sure you meant a millimeter or two, lol. I wonder if the noise it makes is just a resonance from the different materials as they move over the lane. I bet that doesn't help in the ball's performance.

[@michealmaley3566]

Packy I was a Pro-Shop Manager when this ball came out. Out of the box brand new they all thumped and had a lip. Most of our bowlers didn`t like the ball.

[@kevinbadburn03]

Are you sure that it is a bump. Sounds like the transition from one surface to another during the roll. Watch as the ball turns over and you can see it matches up with the sound.

[@cayleb158]

Is this apart of the urethane rule?

[@jimk9290]

I preferred the Game 1 roll when you slid on 22. Moving out and speeding up didn't look as good.

[@the13thking]

Sure it isn’t just the different surfaces making different sounds? I don’t hear a rumble, I hear a scuffing (for whatever it is worth over the internet after recording…)…

[@TheHouseBowling]

It is the uneven different surfaces 😂😂

[@justmakingthistoreply5085]

I hear it further down the lane. It’s a lot better than it was

[@chrisleeleslie]

No more helicopter sounds!!

[@TheHouseBowling]

It was taking off in the last video 😂😂

[@chrisleeleslie]

@@TheHouseBowling haha thought I saw you fly away

[@ThatCuddlesGuy]

In order to get rid of that ridge you’ll need to keep putting it on that machine or put it on a lathe

[@TheHouseBowling]

Leave it on the machine longer but it way better than it slipping down the lane like in the first video! 😂😂

[@steveboguslawski114]

It might also be thumping a bit because even though the ridge between the two materials is smoothed there may be a high spot or low spot in the "stripe" of gold material. Sanding could effect the different materials at different rates and the ball may be slightly out of round. Not enough to feel but enough to make a noise when rolling. Many years ago I once had an old favorite polyester ball repaired after it struck a nut or bolt which had fallen out of a pinsetter onto the pin deck. The damage was a deep chip about the size of a quarter. It was in my track, and even though the repair was "smooth" it thumped forever after. The radius through the repair wasn't close enough to the radius of the rest of the ball. I'm guessing it needs to be a near-perfect match to avoid thumping. I hope that a little more time on the machine fixes your ball, but it would be nice to know if the issue is a high spot or low spot. A high spot can be sanded down, but a low spot will just get deeper. You would need to remove material from everything except the low point (s).

[@thebigeasy8609]

We're STILL waiting on the left 5 pin commentary.....................#jussayin'

[@Blue-cq2hl]

You can hear the thump but it's more of a real dull bump as opposed to the nice solid THUMP THUMP THUMP like a badly balanced tire it had before haha

[@sprocket454]

Your finger grips needed to be removed. They sit up a little and the entire pad rises when it goes over them. The rubber grips won't sand down, they will just push the pads.

[@MicroNQTrader]

I shot a 246 with a helix a few years ago, I should break it out again

[@elex300]

Why is there a ridge in it?

[@sololegit]

Isn't that the problem they had back in the day? I was only like 10 but I swear I remember thumping was one of the issues back then.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Just uneven materials!

[@nhzxboi]

It's just a day in the life of a fella that doesn't really have much to do this time of year.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Just trying to make some fun content for all of you to watch!

[@zacknewman300]

Geez…

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

Isn't this ball illegal to use in tournaments that are sanctioned by usbc and pba?

[@TheHouseBowling]

Nope only pba but legal everywhere else 😁

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

Interesting

[@joshuadalfonso8519]

Please bring this to Bayside

[@menorevs]

Unfortunately, that resurfacer is not going to fix the thump. You will need solid diamond wheels that will make it perfectly round. Any sponge-type sanding disk, like Trizact or Abralon will not do. If you want it fixed, I will do it free to charge. Just get it to me. I have plenty of people that can vouch for my work :)

[@bowlerbrian]

I have four. 15 pounds all new in box packy. Also 5 double helix. If your interested. Not gonna charge that much. 300

[@TheHouseBowling]

Are your helix new?

[@bowlerbrian]

@@TheHouseBowling all of them.

[@bowlerbrian]

@@TheHouseBowling My grandfather got them at the 1997 Johnny Petraglia open from Ricky Ward don’t know if you remember him my grandfather was a rep for Brunswick back then and he worked for them so they were promoting that bowling ball like crazy which back in 1997 was almost $250 lol

[@bowlerbrian]

Obviously you know they get a bunch of balls they were the remaining ones he did not drill so they’re actually all for left-handed

[@ross_7615]

I thought the gold strip was the reactive because it was the same as the gold rhino pro

[@johnyarbrough9280]

How to come pba bowler?

[@Thumper1968]

It's an interesting concept. I always hated that ball when WR3 threw it on the show. It fucks with my OCD! I'm glad you bought one and did those, though. I'd love to see videos with old, undrilled balls from the 80s and 90s when I was coming up. Like a slate AMF Angle, or a blue Nail from Fab. Ah the good old days.

[@할방구-c2x]

재출시 기대해 봅니다

[@igoramaral95]

If it was a centimeter off, the ball would fly off the momment it hit the lane 😅. I think you meant a milimeter.

[@nickkabai8408]

Packy, I'm also a 2 hand bowler. You should try to learn how to reverse ur ball. I've almost mastered it for my spares. Helps with the 10 pins and mostly anything on the right for me, I'm a right hand bowler*

[@stompingpeak2043]

I would've just done it by hand until it was flush. Yeah it would take forever but throw a movie on and get that work lol

[@MrSticks9999]

Yep, a centimeter is about 3/8" lol

[@davidbourlier4533]

You should have put it on a spinner first & scraped the gold only down first before the full resurfacing

[@Kim-FP5]

i started this year and my high game is a 247

[@bienkowbowling7737]

Big foul lol

[@timpfeifer4991]

You're doing it wrong....watch Walter throw this guy on TV....its fire it up 3/4/5...and catch every single off hit!