Well if it were me instead of making a cypher I’d just write random symbols just to make them waste time
@thomasapodaca5800 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure they know how to tell whether or not a cypher actually means something or not
@gely_ Жыл бұрын
@@thomasapodaca5800they do, i think the person who wrote this original comment is a kid.
@hammertime369 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps he was looking for a soul mate 🤣🤣🤣 cop/criminal opposites attract type of thing and smart enough to communicate with them,🤷🏼♀️🤣 craziness
@hundinrave9828 Жыл бұрын
@@gely_ you can still be tricked by a « pattern »
@tapferer.Toaster Жыл бұрын
Man kann in Codes auch etwas sehen, auch wenn es wirklich nichts bedeuten soll.
@shugadaddy4841 Жыл бұрын
As a mom to an intellectually disabled child I feel bad for Mark. I wish more people were educated on this subject so they could understand and not judge
@Sean-sn9ld Жыл бұрын
00:40 This should say "half a *century* of silence" as "half a decade" is only five years.
@Unclerukus210 Жыл бұрын
Mark was probably once of the biggest waste of life the justices system took. The amount of things that man could have created to change the world…… we will never know smh
@josi4251 Жыл бұрын
While I do agree his imprisonment was hideous, our society doesn't deal well with people like him. Someone like Mark would need to be supervised at all times, which is usually an unsupportable burden. One of my childhood friends and classmates is an autistic savant. His family has been able to keep him safe in his 65 years, but he's never been able to work, can't drive a car, can't be left unsupervised, etc. Brilliant beyond belief -- he's a human calculator, can spout of 5- and 6-digit prime numbers -- but he simply can't function on his own. Mark couldn't either. Not knowing how serious it is to make a homemade gun is likely to lead nowhere good.
@hyphoon709 Жыл бұрын
@@josi4251 yeah its sad but they really have no place in society, hopefully eventually that can change.
@fauxman1 Жыл бұрын
@@josi4251had he not been imprisoned for taking his deceased father's tools he would have never been making handguns with the purpose of escaping in the first place
@Inverts4Introverts Жыл бұрын
@fauxman1 very much agreed. The man seemed too peaceful for anything bad. He could of easily used his guns to take out guards and didnt.
@Sage_Popo Жыл бұрын
I'm from Vallejo, there's a road near the park where the first victims were killed that leads to just farm/open land and there's a bunch of signs with his symbol in the middle, it's pretty terrifying driving through there
@gloriamontgomery6900 Жыл бұрын
I spent so much time at Blue Rock Springs Park when I visited my grandparents (both sets) in Vallejo as a child . Actually, I always found it creepy as a kid. That mournful , eerie sound the peacocks would make-and it would just come out of the blue at random intervals. The place was always nearly deserted .
@WobblesandBean Жыл бұрын
Jfc, that's nine kinds of disrespectful to the victims.
@Dragonblaster1 Жыл бұрын
I was in a business meeting with some representatives of a potential French supplier. They had a little conversation about how they were going to rip us off. As the meeting ended and we shook hands, I said "Comprendre que les anglais ne sont pas tous idiots," (Understand that the English are not all idiots.) I really wish I could have recorded the expression on their faces. Needless to say, they were not selected as a supplier.
@alexander1112000 Жыл бұрын
It’s always amusing when people assume speaking a different language makes it impossible for others to understand them.
@solaufein3029Ай бұрын
As a french person, this sounds awfully like google translate. But, I'll give you benefit of the doubt.
@Shr00mz4u2 Жыл бұрын
Mark Defriest story makes me feel nothing but shame for us. That's a pretty low bar. But thanks for a another informative video. Knowledge is King.
@derekm424 Жыл бұрын
Hes probably dead by now, or so old jail wouldnt matter much. Shame he was never brought to justice
@JSmirkingRevenge Жыл бұрын
Hes alive, his name is Ted Cruz
@kkateh Жыл бұрын
@@JSmirkingRevenge😂😂
@derekm424 Жыл бұрын
@@JSmirkingRevenge 😂
@ingloriousbetch4302 Жыл бұрын
@@JSmirkingRevenge he's not nearly smart enough for all that. Lol
@williammorris3303 Жыл бұрын
How do you go to your grave without leaving something to let the world know you were the killer. Crazy
@ATypiclaNPC Жыл бұрын
Seriously, the cops and judges and doctors who were responsible for Mark Defriest should go to the cell themselves. Seriously, how can you not spot Paych's disease in someone like that?
@josi4251 Жыл бұрын
What is Paych's disease?
@arabiarush7988 Жыл бұрын
@josi4251 I think it's believed he has autism and bipolar disorder honestly cops and judges aren't trained to know this which is why people want to send police funding to other areas so the police can work with social workers ect. The first psychologist he had failed him saying he was intentionally doing things because at that point the judge felt as though the mental episodes were a lie.
@baconghoti Жыл бұрын
@@josi4251 Paych's Disease is either an auto incorrect or a misspelling; Apple, Google and all those teachers need to be held accountable. How could they let this happen?
@mamamarshmallow Жыл бұрын
Okay so I found something super interesting! The coded name is 13 letters long, but there's only 8 unique letters. If Lawrence Kane (one of the suspects) went by Lawrence K Kane (bit of a stretch there, but stick with me), it's 13 letters long, with 8 unique letters! Furthermore, the count of each unique letter lines up! It's hard to explain but hopefully this makes sense: in BOTH instances, there are 4 letters that are only used once, 3 letters that are used twice, and 1 letter that is used three times! Am I going crazy here?? Someone who's super good at decoding should try to figure this out!
@cr7isthegoat7portugal Жыл бұрын
Hm.Interesting!Maybe your right,but I guess we will never know🤷♂️
@jesselong1622 Жыл бұрын
Crazy coincidence 4-3-1 (letters used). 431 is a prime number
@horstnietzsche1923 Жыл бұрын
@@jesselong1622prime numbers are intimidating but what does it mean?
@FromRootsToRadicals_INTP Жыл бұрын
Not crazy but give your self some credit. Dont need a title in a field to have a good mind. Keep looking into it a try to verify, you seem good with data point connecting.
@Arcanua Жыл бұрын
We still don't know that they're names of people though, they could even be a location.
@MrBeugh Жыл бұрын
The lawyer’s name - Belli - is pronounced “Bell-eye”. I was a kid growing up in Tiburon, CA and all the neighborhood parents escorted us everywhere. It was terrifying.
@G17-k6f Жыл бұрын
You would think ai would have solved the cypher and everything by now.
@HimitsuYami Жыл бұрын
Man, hearing some of these robberies makes me wanna get a job as a person who tests this sort of thing for banks or other places
@ED-es2qv Жыл бұрын
When you encounter someone in the woods, and they come back later, they probably mean you harm.
@jimmytaco6738 Жыл бұрын
Aha! It was pig latin all along!
@azuve Жыл бұрын
tf
@TheBestDog Жыл бұрын
@@azuve Umbass Day
@LuigiMordelAlaume Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. I could never figure out pig latin, no one can!
@SevasTra1900 Жыл бұрын
Allay ies-lay! 😅
@SubZer00fucksgiven Жыл бұрын
Saved me 4hours😂
@cryptofpl Жыл бұрын
This should have been a limited series on Netflix. Great Job
@IIBase Жыл бұрын
Fr man
@danieldavis2292 Жыл бұрын
Well it was already a great movie
@Vercingetorix.Rising Жыл бұрын
@@danieldavis22922 movies. One good one bad
@PinkBanshees Жыл бұрын
maybe not Netflix, they have gone down hill hard
@OptimalToast Жыл бұрын
They'd turn it in to stories that are more fanciful than fact.
@Asitu_ Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so interesting!
@cheetah219 Жыл бұрын
My theory about the last cipher. One of the reasons I think zodiac killer was never caught: he eventually had more than one killer recruited/took credit for other crimes. It's technically a win-win for someone who wants to commit a crime and the zodiac killer. He did commit his own crimes, but the reason he can be linked to 9 but he claims up to 37 is because his team of killers did the others. That's why he referenced slaves who will join him and serve him in paradise. Once he became "known" and enemy #1, all he needs to do is send in a cipher and he can have a any crimes linked to him. I have no proof of this and yes, it did start off as one person, I really think it eventually grew to a team.
@mr_b_hhc Жыл бұрын
Everything about a person like this speaks intricate thought about every (usually almost every, hence getting caught) aspect of the crimes. The answer will doubtless be in there somewhere because why be so clever if no one know about how clever you are? This goes 10x for narcissists, and I would say the Zodiac killer falls into this category, although I am in no way an expert and only going off what other expects has surmised.
@ashzole Жыл бұрын
Agreed . Up left of the cipher place copies of the cipher top left and caddy corner, so you make a square , can you see it. it reads : we put her body by the ice machine. we??? the cipher i think is telling you where he placed the bodies, bottom left something about a boy in a boat and to look in a zoo bottom right: something about a key to a locker or lockbox toolbox too left diagonal someyhing about going to the 9th floor by a certain time in new york center something about a deity jesus christ and he loves them then look for a book by tom or tony in new york
@jptbf Жыл бұрын
tell me you have chatgpt write your scripts without telling me you have chatgpt write your scripts 😅
@moorek1967 Жыл бұрын
If Zodiac had a car, then why would he have Paul Stine drive him to that neighborhood? Why did he not just drive there himself? Of all the neighborhoods he could have gone to, he went to that one. Before Stine took off, he had to ask where Zodiac was going to. But they went to that stop sign before Zodiac killed him. So that one makes no sense.
@gloriamontgomery6900 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the cab ride had nothing to do with the destination at all? What if the crime was about throwing off the cops completely by departing from his pattern radically, both the setting and the choice of victim.?I think he was taunting the police by carrying out such a public, risky crime as well.
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the creek flowing out of the dam that creates lake Berryessa is called Putah Creek, but it is much more well known by it's nickname, "Green River" which is the river mentioned by CCR. CCR was from this area. Also, it's in Yolo County.
@shayla1939 Жыл бұрын
Are you sayinh Ccr is in yolo county or barryessa is? Lake barryessa is in napa county.
@tommymayfield814 Жыл бұрын
It's called b itch creek?
@Its_a_me_WSA Жыл бұрын
honestly the zodiac case has been more than 50 yrs old. either the killer is dead now or will never be caught. I rather they focus their resources in solving more recent unsolved cases
@sentryogmixmaster Жыл бұрын
it was you wasn't it!
@ContactsNfilters Жыл бұрын
@@sentryogmixmasterno, because really these killers always want to be caught. Or at least to keep playing the cat and mouse game, catch me if you can.
@thetwitchywitchy Жыл бұрын
I never thought i’d see the same animation style and hear the same narrator from the backrooms explained and SCP explained videos about a true crime subject… idk why it was just very bizarre to me lol like if I muted it I imagine they’re talking about scps lol
@wisdomsleuth77777 Жыл бұрын
@13:00 I also had called into the FBI around the time that they were cracking this apparently and I had reminded them that they had thought that "DES" was short for code language that they tend to use, but it was December DEC is what it should have been- because he was using it with the other dates + the people he had killed... that would make it numerologically a lot different!
@nerdsubculture845 Жыл бұрын
4 hours? I'll take your word for it.
@Alalpog Жыл бұрын
Lol. I'm in for it
@TheCassiusking Жыл бұрын
Not today son
@shastealyofemale4068 Жыл бұрын
Maybe next year
@alexfinns6162 Жыл бұрын
Actually though… 4 hours?
@alexfinns6162 Жыл бұрын
Thank god it’s a compilation and not one video
@preciousodyssey Жыл бұрын
Melvin "bell-eye", not "bell-ee". Otherwise, good piece. I had not realized it had finally been deciphered.
@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr Жыл бұрын
Please keep up the variety infographics show! I am tired of seeing all the China World War III, Russia videos. Please bring back the challenge guy. What happened to the poor guy??
@Prettypaigexxx Жыл бұрын
Yeah instopped watching for a while cause it got boring i love these compilnations though i always watch them before bed
@charlesettarobinson Жыл бұрын
Starting this at 8:35 CST... wish me luck! I listened to the whole hours. Even after figuring out that the Zodia part was about 10 minutes.
@YoursUntruly Жыл бұрын
Brother, touch grass.
@rubikscuber9277 Жыл бұрын
😂
@parveensalim4559 Жыл бұрын
Did you solve it
@larryg1902 Жыл бұрын
Great channel. But 4 hrs?? Ain’t nobody got time for that!
@mightymouse9001 Жыл бұрын
Ted Cruz should pay for his crimes
@MindKontrolleProject Жыл бұрын
Is that the famous lawyer "Melly Belly"?🤪
@mabhatter4294 Жыл бұрын
What I learnt - use spelling mistakes in cyphers, YAY :P
@bigmanbigplans7953 Жыл бұрын
Fbi every 10 years: We got em🗿 (its a different guy then the last time💀)
@TheOnlyOneStanding8079 Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the lives that was taken by this crazy guy and I feel sorry for the family that lost their lived ones who had to live through this 😢😢😢
@kieranhart5776 Жыл бұрын
You guys are killing it. Do you even make money doing this? It just cost a lot to produce such material. Anyway, I’m glad you’re doing it because this is great. I’m hooked! Binge time!
@RadenWA Жыл бұрын
Infographics show is definitely one of the biggest players of KZbin
@somniumisdreaming Жыл бұрын
Haha they be making bank, deservedly so.
@random72578 Жыл бұрын
oh yes trust me they have made thousands 😂 youtube PAYS
@Sean-sn9ld Жыл бұрын
They make lots of money, they are a business.
@mr_b_hhc Жыл бұрын
"You guys are killing it." +1 choice of words.
@ashzole Жыл бұрын
13:48 the bottom cipher: A MAN NAMED TOM i think the middle part of the cipher has the last name , it’s like he switched to a different coding system are they any tom’s anywhere on case files?
@judithbradford9130 Жыл бұрын
it is incredibly sad that people imagine a good life or death depends on having slaves.
@GothicPunkChicky Жыл бұрын
@01:17:30 That's the logo for the Deutsche Bahn, not Deutsche Bank though..
@F0restcall Жыл бұрын
Nobody in the comments has actually finished the video yet
@patrickdurham8393 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knew it was over an hour long when they clicked it.
@youknowme1475 Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: this is a reupload comp
@SimianIndustries Жыл бұрын
Oh man, that's absolutely NOTHING like where the first Zodiac murders took place
@muehahahaha Жыл бұрын
Just one video before bed. The video:
@npcrah Жыл бұрын
Wait this video is 4 hours long?! Can someone that's watched the whole thing tell if it's worth watching it in your opinion?
@amber13000 Жыл бұрын
Yes. It's very interesting. They have time stamps of all the stories in the description box. You can choose what stories you want to listen to or watch the whole thing. I thought it was a well-done and very interesting video.
@Shr00mz4u2 Жыл бұрын
Even if you've heard some of a story it seems to have new twist or solution, ( that or I'm getting senile, could be --------- ), but yes it was worth the it for the new info. Enjoy
@DeniseF Жыл бұрын
That bank robbery was truly genius.
@NixolotlAM Жыл бұрын
who else is watching this past midnight-
@DelphineNoirel Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t mind if a burglar broke in and cleaned up my house 😂
@kizmo2317 Жыл бұрын
I'm not watching a 4 hour video to discover that the payoff is the serial killer equivalent of "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine".
@CalPhotoGuy Жыл бұрын
I wonder what it's like going through life thinking I know everything. Tell me. Did you not notice the "and more crazy stories" part of the title? Did you really not investigate? You just decided you know what's going to happen?
@kizmo2317 Жыл бұрын
@@CalPhotoGuy No, I read a 5 minute article on Zodiac's message instead of watching a 4 hour video, since I didn't care about "more crazy stories".
@peanut_boiboi5452 Жыл бұрын
when you finished this video just to realize the video was 4 hours long
@e.be.so.fr. Жыл бұрын
19:22 they definitely watch money heist 😂😂😂
@MrCrowley1914 Жыл бұрын
It happens years before Netflix
@e.be.so.fr. Жыл бұрын
@@MrCrowley1914 then money heist was based on a true story 😂
@woltersworld Жыл бұрын
Throw them in ChatGPT
@MyaSturbate Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this lol
@MrCrowley1914 Жыл бұрын
To get a seven fingers zodiac
@RedDogForge Жыл бұрын
i wonder if the spelling error could be cross referenced with any of the previous suspects correspondence? diarys letters?
@TitaniumTurbine Жыл бұрын
3:14:50 The Elisa Lam case taught me just how many people can’t identify a psychotic episode. I wish more people would learn about the signs so they could get help faster. There’s a LOT of people who dismiss mental illnesses/psychosis in these cases and apply other theories, like a denial or coping mechanism reflex. The many police bodycam videos with people running towards officers with knives/machetes highlight this. I’d guess 80% of those aren’t just a depressed suicidal person, they’re likely having a psychotic episode and with treatment they would very likely recover. They’re not aware or in full control of their actions (NOT blaming anyone or being anti/pro police, just giving perspective). Look, I’ve been around enough mentally ill folks to tell you that Elisa Lam’s actions are not unusual. Just imagine in her mental state if she had a knife and there were people nearby, she could have charged them. Earlier this year, there was a case where one of these folks I encountered had refused treatment until they assaulted someone and was taken to a facility. They wrote a “conspiracy timeline” in their own blood across the walls of their house. Why blood, you ask? Because “paint was too traceable/trackable”. You’re probably thinking “What?! That doesn’t make sense!”. A person experiencing severe psychosis like that never usually does.
@classydarktoys5731 Жыл бұрын
10:07 for people waiting to see what the “cracked code” is instead of watching a literal 4 hour video. Love the video but Jeez. 😂
@xzonia1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was interested in the answer but not 4 f- hours! LOL
@Deepak-st9gd Жыл бұрын
Very good👍👍👍👍👍👍
@eaglesclaws8 Жыл бұрын
I think the zodiac was a longshorman. We send delegates to Frisco from all over the west coast, Canada and Hawaii. Might explain why this just stopped, the person or persons did not get reelected to delegate position or retired...
@floriduhgeorgia Жыл бұрын
@@CalPhotoGuy dude chill
@CalPhotoGuy Жыл бұрын
@@floriduhgeorgia That reply landed on the wrong comment for some reason.
@atomthegreat541 Жыл бұрын
He lived in Oregon 6 hours away Frisco? Yeah he lived in Oregon He probably lived in the Rogue Valley
@LuigiMordelAlaume Жыл бұрын
14:24 so this is literally what the Netflix show Money Heist (Casa de Papel) got their plot from?
@--Skip-- Жыл бұрын
... before they had Netflix... 😂😂😂
@Sparkyh Жыл бұрын
if you enjoyed this i highly recommend the movie "Zodiac" starring Jake Gyllenhaal.
@LordMarcus Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah, Ted Cruz, that guy.
@31saasha Жыл бұрын
I love going to sleep listening to this guy!
@auriluna9469 Жыл бұрын
21:09 is this what money heist about?
@MrWise1888 Жыл бұрын
4 hours!
@othername1000 Жыл бұрын
What’s the show, that we have not seen?
@patrickdurham8393 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there wasn't TV in the Bonnie and Clyde era.
@wintersbattleofbands1144 Жыл бұрын
What? I thought for sure they guest starred on The Love Boat and Fantasy Island.
@DeniseF Жыл бұрын
Was that the Birdman narrating one of the stories?
@BurntByMcDonaldsCoffee Жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@auro1986 Жыл бұрын
fbi confirms efficiency of your mk ultra program
@kavyn146 Жыл бұрын
Someone comments:"It's wrong."
@sharimeline3077 Жыл бұрын
Melvin Belli is pronounced Bell-eye.
@blankstares4355 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make a movie about the Banco Rio bank robbery
@Edelwiess1066 Жыл бұрын
It's been cracked because they created it.
@Pureya-Chan Жыл бұрын
When?
@Edelwiess1066 Жыл бұрын
@@Pureya-Chan Hello juden.
@beckythornton6470 Жыл бұрын
Umm, no "Ice Cold Soda" available at the gas stations. They did not have that type of refrigeration yet, especially rurally. Not even for Bonnie and Clyde, sigh. Things could have been sooooo different if that gang only had the ability to have icy cold drinks, dontcha think?
@enemyofYTemployees Жыл бұрын
It was Nancy pelosi all along
@e.be.so.fr. Жыл бұрын
Walter watched money heist 😂
@DIEGO.L Жыл бұрын
There's a movie about the second case "Heist of the Century"
@robyn7287 Жыл бұрын
I think the zodiac killer himself to join his slaves waiting for him. Maybe law enforcement should have looked at suicide s in the are at that time. The guy who spent all his life in prison for stealing a tool box his dad left him was tragic. It would make a great movie. The hacker who saved everyone then got arrested for it is so typical of the law who just don’t care about anyone other what they want. Enjoyed this video but found a lot of the stories ended very abruptly without a conclusion.
@gio9698 Жыл бұрын
The bank heist story is almost the same as the first season of money heist on Netflix maybe this is where they got the idea from?
@givaFlyingFiggz Жыл бұрын
I've wondered re: The Zodiac Killer if he wasn't misspelling words on purpose. That if you combine the misspelled words with the left-over letters at the bottom of his message, that it might be an anagram.
@nocilantro_gack Жыл бұрын
Melvin Belly..??? I think the Zodiac was British.... He said several times in his cards and letters.. ¨Happy Christmas¨ which they say in the UK...not here in America...
@azuraroycroft2419 Жыл бұрын
This video is actually really fun, that second story with bank robbers was far out
@ArtisticLogic Жыл бұрын
The power of machine learning and A.I...
@kathykline7202 Жыл бұрын
That had nothing to do with solving the so called ciphers, needed was pen and paper, they have wasted 12 million I heard. Instead of solving yourself which is very easy, send out in raw form to a language translator or linguist.
@Nyatsimba_Mutota Жыл бұрын
Was the CIA ever involved in the case of the Zodiac Killer?
@tannarkovar-tf4jk Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is likely but what if you tried to use the symbols from the 348 and to the 2 others that are really short. If he was really lazy he might have used the same code.
@MrNougat Жыл бұрын
I'm sure nobody has ever thought of that before.
@dustinmiller7278 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@cheesebiscuit6453 Жыл бұрын
With the amount of detail he had, I don't think he was lazy
@TheAntMan101 Жыл бұрын
That would’ve been the first thing they did lol
@MarkAnthony-rr1cs Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you just moved into the 3rd grade… look at you!
@tokenblackwoman127 Жыл бұрын
And they finessed free pizza. Wild.
@lindabee7683 Жыл бұрын
I thought they thought that the Zodiac was a US Sailor.
@CardNGoldUSC Жыл бұрын
Love the videos. It's pronounced Belleye not Belly.
@e.be.so.fr. Жыл бұрын
23:32 so money heist was based on a true story or this heist was based on money heist
@mattthescreamer177 Жыл бұрын
That retired cop turned bank robber was a loser
@RedEyesSV Жыл бұрын
You wrote down the correctly spelled letter but accidently spelled paradise wrong
@stefanjohansson2373 Жыл бұрын
“Paradice”, ha ha ha!
@jonglewongle3438 Жыл бұрын
I saw the 1967 Bonnie and Clyde movie on the TV in 1976. It was made in color and I dun watched in color.
@harrypothead42024 Жыл бұрын
Just a quick tip, I clicked on your video because I am familiar with the backstory. I didn't need the recap. I doubt anybody did.
@gc4397 Жыл бұрын
Half a century, not a decade
@waywardpoet5310 Жыл бұрын
51:10 our savior has arrived 😂🤣
@paulcarey191 Жыл бұрын
the cypher has been cracked - it says...buy more zodiac oat meal.
@kathykline7202 Жыл бұрын
Z340 says stuff about the atmosphere, execution or life in prison, the red drawer, my worst enemy is G, abroad (thats where he went in 75) see if I am not right. Lines 5-20 were never broken by cryptos, but I showed them how and it will be correct next time,. they used wrong method, its not ciphers at all, he couldnt cipher, but yet millions believe him.
@desperadox7565 Жыл бұрын
Mark's prison guards deserve to get life in prison. He did nothing wrong.
@Samsquamsh Жыл бұрын
@1:38:58 .... wat? Thought we stayed a-political here?
@tomvoigt Жыл бұрын
No, the road was not "nicknamed lovers lane." 10 seconds in and already a mistake.🙄