What if the United States Never Entered World War 2

[@nathanseper8738]

It's really frightening how America, due to its isolationism, came very close to not intervening.

[@1216jimmyz]

@@lu544 so we should have just ignored that hole pesky Pearl Harbor thing then, right?

[@nathanseper8738]

@@lu544 You are being deliberately obtuse!

[@PrinceIsot]

@@lu544 that's the problem with people like you

[@PrinceIsot]

@@lu544 and just what do you think would happen if Germany defeated all of the free world you dunce?

[@arcturionblade1077]

@@nathanseper8738 Hey, that's not fair. Lu is also being acutely ignorant to boot.

[@benroos14]

Great episode! Although Germanys navy was never strong enough to launch a attack on the beachs of the UK. They knew this and tried to bomb them into submission because they knew they couldn't make a beachhead

[@DavidL1986]

Makes you think if they took us out at Dunkirk tho, we’d have no army to fight if they did land. Perhaps Germany wouldn’t even need to confront our navy

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@DavidL1986 the bef was only a third of all British army. The rest was mostly infantry but irrelevant.

[@Vandelberger]

Agree, it was not an incompetent decision to not attack Normandy, there was nothing in the area that would effectively take the beaches. Rommel had surrounded the French, true, but even he wasn’t crazy to assault a beach with 350,000 men. Even the creation of Vichy France, shows that Germany was not ready for its own success yet, lol.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@cmckown7932 lol no. There was no chance of the Germans destroying the navy as they lacked both the ability and skill and their enemies had capable anti air defenses. The Germans would be badly beaten even if they destroyed the Raf. There was little chance of them achieving air superiority anyways.

[@Turvold]

The fatal mistake was after taking out most of the RAF through bombing raids to turn and decide to attack London and other civilian centers just because the British bombed Berlin allowing the British to rebuild and with the invention of radar and the cracking of enigma the British could now know when the Germans were coming.

[@Flaris]

I know this was about the US. But I was curious how Canada sitting right on top of the US was fairing under these scenarios. Kind of felt like a missed opportunity to neglect the country that was both in NA and still at war with Germany in these scenarios.

[@BurdenofTheMighty]

It’s true. Canada held an important role in WW2

[@katleeshue]

I guess whatever Britain does we'll follow suit.

[@bkh8528]

Well considering that Canada was part of the British commonwealth they were basically told what to do by the British empire and it’s ruling Monarchy………….. just saying……..

[@shane_7even_ten569]

Canada was involved before the states

[@larrylambert1220]

I would like to know what happens to South America.

[@jonisalmela2399]

I think you guys overlooked the British commonwealth, canada, Australia etc. Also I think sealion would have been pretty much impossible anyway.

[@tylercarney3914]

Sorry but Australia wasent even top 10 for army navy etc in ww1-2 Canada wasent much power ful either mainly cause of there snow being isolated around the us even tho they where allies Australia and Canada where not very powerful cause before Canada and the us got involved Germany swept France took Poland and obviously later in the war the east side of the red army/soviet union where Stalin had to move to the west and Moscow and more where tacken but Australian and Canada where not very good they are in the top 6 now fs

[@gdaycunt2001]

@@tylercarney3914 speak some sense mate

[@lakshaybansal5337]

What about India?

[@alistairgrey5089]

Canada and Australia were already involved in the war. Some of the first attempts to establish a foothold in Europe were Canadian forces. Unfortunately both countries had very little in the way of military equipment and personnel. They helped but were not major contributing factors.

[@good7saint]

@@tylercarney3914 I suggest you come to Liverpool and look at the Canadian names on the memorial for the fallen Canadians

[@ives3572]

"A point has been reached where the peoples of the Americas must take cognizance of growing ill-will, of marked trends toward aggression, of increasing armaments, of shortening tempers, a situation which has in it many of the elements that lead to the tragedy of general war. Peace is threatened by those who seek selfish power." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@Gingerboi2010]

I like how the British government said that they were the reason Dunkirk was successful but it was actually what remained of the French army that set up a perimeter and fought to the last man to stall for time

[@rossmackenzie2367]

if the British didn't send the mass of ships, there would have been hundreds of thousands of more deaths

[@tylerchapman9234]

Is that what actually happened?

[@strongbrew9116]

Kind of half correct. There were French divisions who held their ground which bought time for the evacuation at Dunkirk, but there were British divisions holding the line too, such as the British 5th division involved in the heavy fighting at the Battle of the Ypres-Comines Canal. All in all, 3 main reasons why Dunkirk succeeded was 1) The French who stayed and defended their sectors 2) The Royal Navy managing 50,000-70,000 evacuated per day from day 3 onwards 3) Hitler's infamous halt order.

[@jameshagan2832]

@@tylerchapman9234 the French laregly provided the cover to allow the british to withdraw back to England. Had France surrendered earlier (they were done by dunkirk) the vast majority of Britain's continental army would have been captured and maybe Britain could hold out because they still controlled the air and the sea but the war likely would have gone on longer as they rebuilt their army/waited until the us got in

[@coinneachreid8971]

It should also be mentioned that the British were able to evacuate a further 144,000 personnel from various French ports (Operation Aerial), after Dunkirk fell. This was in no small part due to the defeated French continuing to fight to facilitate this. However as mentioned by @ Strong Brew Der Halte Befehl was probably the biggest strategic mistake of WWII

[@michelleken.]

There's actually a very interesting mini-series, "The Plot Against America", made about this, in a very, very realistic alternate history, where Lindbergh actually wins the presidential elections (where he participated in irl btw), not intervening in the war, and driving the USA more towards an anti-semitic fascist society, that is actually more friendly with the Nazi's than it is completely neutral. Thank God this is just an alternate history and did not happen in real life!

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

...The Plot Against America? Well-acted but so dull, in my opinion.

[@michelleken.]

@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 my father thought about it the same way and thought it was rather boring. I can understand that, but I actually liked very much and was constantly tense. The reason why a lot of people think it's a little dull is because it's just so realistic I guess...

[@Queen_Miku]

sadly some other universe probably had that happen

[@Queen_Miku]

@Big Daddy why?

[@Queen_Miku]

@Big Daddy we joined ww2 for revenge on japan, alongside germany threatening the usa so we had quite a problem with them both

[@ives3572]

"Perfectionism, no less than isolationism or imperialism or power politics, may obstruct the paths to international peace. Let us not forget that the retreat to isolationism a quarter of a century ago was started not by a direct attack against international cooperation but against the alleged imperfections of the peace." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

Ives.. Wow I'd never heard this one. I really enjoy a statement that has your thoughts racing from observation to idea and reality in such a small amount of words. I found myself a little light headed, going over it at full speed the first run.

[@gamingwitharlen2267]

I wish more KZbin channels would explore the scale of the Sino-Japanese war like The Armchair Historian.

[@serbian8323]

agreed

[@WMassOutdoors]

Look forward to your episodes all the time. Especially the alternate reality ones. Keep up the GREAT work

[@catherinejohnson1354]

But its a reality where America is always the saviour when it most definitely is not

[@datcheesecakeboi6745]

My man makes america out to have the best soldiers

[@ares01397]

Only if Germany wouldn't have invaded USSR and Japan not attacked pearl harbour...

[@jeffreyval9665]

If they were able to defeat the British the Soviet invasion probably would of went alot different. No strategic bombing from the U.S. and British. Way more men and supplies to take on the Russians.

[@rubietkx]

No, only if Germany didn't obey the tripartite pact like Japan didn't when they declared war on the USSR

[@irongrid4682]

if Japan had continued attacking their enemy which was Russia I think they would have stood a chance

[@ares01397]

Germany and Japan should have together attacked USSR...would have been a sure shot victory

[@rubietkx]

@@ares01397 Especially since the Siberian troops with proper clothing near the Moscow front would never arrive and a lot of Soviet equipment would be bogged down in Siberia

[@alekj3104]

What if Poland never entered WW2? Germany: I declare war on you! Poland: I don't recognize this

[@DoctorDeath147]

Germany attacked without declaring war so

[@jrdsm]

poland never entered ww2, ww2 entered poland

[@skyreelz]

Poland : 🗿

[@AlbertaGamer]

Canada is another country that was vital to winning the war. We kept the UK alive in the Battle of the Atlantic and our pilots ripped a chunk out of the Luftwaffe, and we also trained the US pilots that won the war in the Pacific.

[@alanboyd3579]

Also, Canada did a lot of convoys escorting during the Battle of the Atlantic. I also read somewhere that the British got more of their supplies from Canada than to the USA before lend lease became operational. Canada is unfortunately overlooked during WW2 and WW1.

[@theog700]

🇬🇧❤🇨🇦

[@dannygjk]

@@alanboyd3579 When a country is less powerful it's contribution gets downplayed.

[@trollpenguin6713]

@@dannygjk the scenario was USA should as the solely superpower in the western hemisphere, other competitor should fall even their allies should not had equal treaties . if you look at post worldwar, USA kick the UK out for nuclear research post-manhattan project. UK was angry with this, it is like a theft. Don't forget crisis Suez, USA threat the UK to withdraw from Egypt that's mean British Empire officially "done". In Falkland war, USA initially told the UK to let Argentina had the islands before turned their support to UK. USA is like snake 🙂

[@reagafranros]

Ya I think we would have been just fine without the Canadians. Thanks for playing tho!

[@CassieAngelica]

I love how folks like this always downplay the roles of the Soviet Union and England in WW2. American Exceptionalism 101.

[@AceofAcre]

No one is downplaying anything except you

[@dpac956]

Yes, USSR was the backbone of Allies but they never got deserved credit, guess who came late and showered in it?

[@beastki7424]

@@AceofAcre I played with your down bad mom

[@nelswolf]

I agree with soviet union. But England wouldn't of survive without their colonies

[@ChrisZukowski88]

@@dpac956 so you're telling me soviet tyranny post war wasn't a thing? Ok

[@shivarghabhattacharya8796]

I would love more Alternate History Scenarios

[@mrthomas2847]

I still feel history keeps ignoring what happen in USSR, look in WW2 losses and you see the main force to beat Germany was USSR, legit the allies only faced the left overs that Germany could spare from the front against USSR.

[@deanokelly29]

So allies bombing Germany had nothing to do with it . Or the all the hardware given to Soviet Union or UK no going under to Germany if they did no invasion of mainland Europe no USA in war lol so Soviet Union would have gone under

[@andrewmiller1123]

Uh no, yea they beat a big force but it wasn't only them

[@averagejoe112]

The big winner of WW2 was the US economy.

[@samuelfagbemi8851]

The Soviet union could not defeat germany without U.S supply and British air interruption

[@peterbaker8443]

Dude we supplied both the uk and Russia and fought on two fronts in two different continents and still won

[@Mark-xh8md]

Disappointing how the end is basically "Don't worry, the good guys win in the end anyway".

[@jesperjensen7665]

There was no way the Germans could pull off sealion because of the British Navy. I would say the battle over Britain would have been worse off however Germany switched targeting military targets to targeting civilian targets allowing the RAF to get back on its feet. All this would keep the UK in the fight which would eventually allow the USSR to finish off Germany. The US did send alot of aid to USSR but Soviet resilience and the fatal unprepared Germans for winter would allow the Soviets to have time to prepare a good defence like they did in reality.

[@paytonwirtjes523]

The Germans switching to civilian targets was soley because they had all but eradicated the royal air force. America allowed the RAF to get back on thier feet. Basically Britain was asking for america to build thier spitfires and ship them, since almost all thier means of Homeland production was destroyed. They asked america for 50 planes, and in america a man that worked for ford was brought in and he removed the wings and stacked the planes vertically, and hung them in the bays of the transpo ships. So that instead of 50 complete planes, He allowed for america to send 300 planes, in mostly built pieces instead of 50 fully built ones. This wasn't immediately realized by the German air force. So by the time they realized what was happening the us had already put Britain from the brink of defeat, to matching attrition, to overwhelming numerical advantage. After the meaningfully time to counter had passed. America did much the same to overwhelm advanced German armor. It was said a German panzer could take out 3 American tanks. So we used our manufacturing to send 5 to 1 numbers against germany

[@tombrady6596]

The US disrupted German supplies that stopped them from bombing Moscow with artillery. You would also be contending with Japan and their “kamikaze”. The Japanese also had a sizable navy.

[@jesperjensen7665]

@@tombrady6596 Bro the Germans still had shells mah guy. Also what's this talk about the Japanese Navy? Like the US could threaten the main land because they devistated the Japanese Navy in Midway. The Germans just could not do that to the British Fleet

[@MUSIC4EVA55]

If the United States hadn't entered the war, it would have taken the Soviet Union an extra year to push all the way to the coast of Normandy.

[@strangerthingsfan5601]

Us literally suplied soviets with hella equipment stalin said without us we would've lost

[@ihabland1201]

nazis were 5o miles from moscow at the time

[@qwertrop639]

@@ihabland1201 yeah so that is factually incorrect. Germans were near Moscow in 1941 but when d-day happened ussr already pushed them back from all of it territories and began to attack the germany itself

[@INoticeTooMuch1]

@@qwertrop639the Germans were in Belorussia and Ukraine when D-day occurred.

[@LazzieMazzie]

this is actually true IF american never supplied ussr with lot of stuff it could have taken 1 or 2 more years to actually get better equipment to the soldiers and tanks but that doesn't mean that USSR would have collapsed no they would have continued the fight for so long as they can

[@NotIn_Water]

If the US never entered WW2 then it would be a live-action of Wolfenstein

[@dallassmith9617]

I'm so glad you elaborated for everyone how awful Lindbergh was. He was just a straight up P.OS.

[@theocjr.43]

And was reviled as a national hero.

[@jeffreysommer3292]

@@theocjr.43 And he received the Order of the German Eagle from Goering. Just goes to show...

[@willweed6168]

Just like Ford.

[@jag92949]

If he was elected President, he wouldn’t have been a pacifist and joined the war with the Axis. He’d help Britain and the USSR fall, and do a ground invasion of Canada.

[@raidermaxx2324]

hopefully people will start to realize that about Donald Trump, who is also down with "America First" and white nationalism...

[@PhilipLeitch]

Americans should know that "supplies to Britain" and "support to Britain" were all at profit. The US "lend lease" cost the UK so much it took decades to recover from the war and almost a century to repeat the debt. America's support in WWII came at an enormous cost.

[@abba-Flammenfresser]

Are you serious? The Marshall Plan to this day hadn’t been paid back expect by only a few countries. If US wanted they really could’ve gone after what was rightfully theirs, but let many European countries off the hook, so hold your horses chief

[@PhilipLeitch]

@@abba-Flammenfresser yes I'm serious. Did you know that the UK was paying America back for WW2 "support" until the end of 2006? Is that moral? The US made about 840 billion dollars (in today's money) per year during WW2 "supporting" those who later became Allies. This is a stain on the history of America that most Americans don't even know about: that America didn't consider Nazis bad enough to actually take action against and instead profited from those countries who did consider Nazis invading other countries as unacceptable.

[@jKDC1987]

@@abba-Flammenfresser The British paid its war debts/loans back in full. America only came in because Japan forced them to do so. This channel is and always has been American propaganda and doesn’t actually focus on facts, only the ones that make the USA look great.

[@abba-Flammenfresser]

@@jKDC1987 bro I get that, I’m agreeing with you. I love the Brits so much, greatest allies, and brothers in the entire world. Along with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and other Anglo countries. The US isn’t the one you should be taking it out on, since we’ve been fighting together for so long, but our adversaries instead like Russia and China. Cmon man…

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@abba-Flammenfresser The question should be, are you serious? The Marshall plan was nothing but a way for the US to buy influence in European domestic affairs, a way to strong arm utterly destroyed and starving European countries into doing whatever the US wanted, or else be cut off and starved into submission. So don't go acting as if it was all given out of the good of the US' heart. Conveniently you seem to have forgotten the many billions of Euro's worth of gold from multiple European countries that are still in US vaults which the US refused to return, likely because they illegally spent those countries gold in secret and without permission.

[@pyrrhicvictory4115]

Europa the last battle is a good documentary on the subject.

[@OfficiallyLost]

Infographics has clearly never played Hearts of Iron.

[@vilecreature5801]

Imagine a "Cold War: Fascism vs Democracy. USA vs Germany scenario". Would be an awesome concept for a movie or a video game.

[@ethanalexander4698]

You on to something

[@GamingGelehrterShorts]

Holllly

[@kurnma3776]

well theres 2 hoi4 mods to satiate that need

[@vilecreature5801]

@@kurnma3776 you mean tno?

[@Yeetusdeleetus979]

Honestly tbh Russia was the main reason they lost not America. If Germany didn’t betray the no. Aggression pact and left Russia alone, they would have won.

[@prodog69420]

USA was bombing German Industry and the Germans would have won against USSR without america

[@noahniskala]

Mostly Uk France and USA did the heavy lifting they weakened Germany even more when they invaded USSR which helped them push back, Also the USA supplied the Soviet union heavily making them win

[@danielcristianescobar8157]

Did you watch the video? Yes Russia did a lot of the heavy lifting but to say without the other Allies they would've won is incorrect.

[@oliversherman2414]

Could you maybe do some alternate WW1 scenarios on this channel? I feel like alternative WW2 history is covered a lot

[@AceofAcre]

This is why Helping Ukraine and Taiwan is so important same situation different countries

[@arcturionblade1077]

Exactly. Appeasement never works with murderous autocratic dictators like Putin and Xi. The world should've done more when Russia invaded and took Crimea back in 2014.

[@justsomeguy2743]

Should also be helping Palestine people forget about this aswell but because both the uk and us are sweet on Israel they won’t do anything

[@AceofAcre]

@@justsomeguy2743 youre right

[@TXHEN1]

Yes but people are so uneducated that they don't see this.

[@masonpyle5929]

@@justsomeguy2743 A lot of Americans are pro-Israel so that won’t happen.🇺🇸🇮🇱

[@TheDrink72]

Imagine people go to war for a random object in the sky that controls the tides.

[@snowimayko659]

okay, this has to be the hilarious way to describe this scenario.🤣

[@patboi9384]

Did anyone else at 3:25 hear “a serious robux”😂

[@turtledan2513]

I was excited when man in the high castle went into production. They ruined that real quick lol

[@adammitchell3462]

When they compare how much goods were given to the USSR during the war, the print reads 11.5 million blankets but the orator say 1.5 million blankets. Not being critical, just observitive

[@guywithahoodie1409]

Good eye!

[@suleymanguzel7025]

I think this is highly underestimated. Without the USSR the end would have had a much more different perspective of what we know now.

[@Acousticmf123]

@The Senate but i doubt they could actually lend lease thousands of american equipment to actually make a huge different

[@Uchihamadara2255]

@The Senate the lend lease was just little percentage of soviet military

[@suleymanguzel7025]

I doubt they were supplied with everything

[@averagejoe112]

@@Uchihamadara2255 30% of their air force, 30% of all food, 30% of all trucks, 80% of railcars and rail repair/construction equipment? 5% of tanks? Without that the USSR would have lost. Even Stalin admitted this.

[@GuyLeDuece]

Infographics is OBSESSED with Hitluuuuur and the Nazeeeees

[@desmondmiller5244]

I really appreciate your videos, I'm a very knowledgeable person in my own right and you keep bringing videos of things I know little to nothing about. Thank you

[@sulimaniii]

haha everything u watch isn't what you think it is, ''the history is written by winners'' you aren't that knowledgeable as you claim.

[@desmondmiller5244]

@@sulimaniii history is white washed by white lies, so maybe you aren't as knowledgeable as you think you are. One has to be ignorant to think everything on this show is real when it clearly says "WHAT IF". And if winners are the only ones allowed to write history then a lot of "history" had been forgotten.

[@sulimaniii]

@@desmondmiller5244 a Knowledgeable person won't claim that he is knowledgeable. plus as I said history is written by the Winners. and I didn't claim I'm knowledgeable learning will never stop, and the thing I said isn't about what IF just the historical events.

[@samthesuspect]

Haven't started watching this yet, but I feel like as a historian, this is going to make me cringe a bunch.

[@bradyexe3238]

Yeah, that's me when I watch infographics. And it's kinda sad that everyone in the comments are saying how they're learning so much. I don't doubt they're learning a lot, but what they're learning isn't true

[@samthesuspect]

@@bradyexe3238 I mean there is a lot of truth to what they say here, but Japan and Germany had next to no cooperation in actual world war II, what makes them think that they would work together to fight Russia? And even without the lend lease, assuming the Brits stayed in the war, the Russians would have eventually rolled over the Germans. Lend least didn't come into full support until after they had stopped the German push. At that point they had already moved all their industries to the other side of the Ural mountains and the Germans were never going to cross those, if they had it would mean their supply lines would have had to cross about 1/6 the entire expanse of the world. So no, then lease means the work goes on for another 16 months, there's probably no major D-Day landing unless the British can convince the Canadians to send a lot more troops than they did, because the Australians and Indians had about enough.

[@Mattie11]

@@bradyexe3238 This is an extremely American demographic tho, they see "AMERICA BEST AMERICA ONLY GOOD COUNTRY" and they are sold.

[@GamerBully]

Love to watch a vlogging through history reaction to this.

[@tropxz4]

@@Mattie11 I mean America on top tho

[@schwartd]

Good overall, but disagree on the delayed invasion of the Soviet Union. With the two year delay, the red army would be rebuilt and have defenses along the east west polish border. Stalin had planned to invade Germany eventually when he was ready. A war ready USSR would have won.

[@cbtenthusiast7133]

while you have a point i dont think the red army could have made it to Berlin without the west buffing them and debuffing the Nazis the war would probably grind to a stalemate but where the new border would be is up for debate.

[@randomguy6152]

not invading doesnt mean the border is open many of the soldiers that pushed deep into russia would instead be defending the frontline

[@jadenhiggins7167]

Nah the British and Americans are the 1s who opened up many fronts for the Germans . Taking pressure of the soviets in the east

[@footisman2059]

Dont forget that american neutrality and german victories would push Stalin into increasing the military funding and reorganization efforts.

[@jeffreysommer3292]

Funny how you made the British planes look like Zeroes...

[@swfcocs1]

In short, without the US the allies and USSR would still have won, it might have taken longer and the Soviets would have likely reached the channel but otherwise the nazis still lose

[@raresmarcu7510]

No, USSR and GB would not have a chance wining

[@Jurass1c]

@@raresmarcu7510 Reasons to support this claim?

[@iseeyou6422]

@@raresmarcu7510 I guess you don't know history

[@yandnat1656]

@@raresmarcu7510 really? Go back to comic books, history is not for you!

[@sovietdoge.7369]

@@raresmarcu7510 Hitler's stupidity would probably help them win.

[@FFA441]

“The two sides are ideologically opposed” was def written by someone who hasnt paid attention to American politics ever

[@chaabraaah5823]

I love how in the end they just assume Germany wouldn't have the smartest scientists, pretty sure it was their scientists we looked past war crimes for them to create our tech. I mean I'm American and I love my country, but to pretend like Germany hasn't had some of the best and brightest is absurd.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Everything about this video is absurd.

[@kirby747]

it assumes that racist americ would have allowed minority scientists to come to the us.

[@duanejohnson599]

they also was the first to discover nuclear fission and the first ballistic missiles. if albert Einstein didnt warn usa, germany wouldve created nukes and won ww2

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

Exactly.. And they forgot to do a timeline on their continuing a Racial Hygiene program and the raising genetic death count. Every time an idea comes up that something would have been better if the USA had done something diffrently? It usually falls apart, or what does better look like? We are barley even the same people as they were back then War times make hard men /// Baby boomers. Peaceful times make soft men /// Erectile Disfunction 😎😎

[@averagejoe112]

They were pointed in the completely wrong direction for a nuclear bomb and even if they knew in 1944 they'd be a decade making the infrastructure

[@robertbrazier5097]

What if Germany had completed Plan Z before the outbreak of WW2?

[@NandiCollector]

*This 'what if' video reminds me of my all time favorite (alternate history) TV series, The Man in the High Castle.' Is just awesome to watch.* I recommend also the newly TV series 'For All Mankind.' ;)

[@cultbender]

Bro Charles Lindbergh is very based.

[@nielfindlay705]

I just love these alternate histories... please do a video on South Africa remaining a colony of The UK... if at all possible...

[@tylerchapman9234]

I had no idea that we had supplied the Soviet Union in such a massive way.

[@lukagreblo7884]

Bc you didn't, the American ambassador to the Soviet Union said that only one quarter of what the lend lease program promised get to the Soviet Union, most of the material was in verre bad conditions. And even if all the promises had come and in good condition it would have made only 7% of the Soviet Union war effort

[@Anonymous-qj3sf]

@@lukagreblo7884 I agree

[@averagejoe112]

@@lukagreblo7884 even Stalin, Kruschev, and zhukov admit they would have lost if not for Lend Lease.

[@dessertlimbo]

the US is the definition of that guy in the group that does nearly nothing and claims the rewards

[@MaskOfCinder]

@@dessertlimbo No, that’s just what the rest of the world tells themselves to feel better about America being the most dominant force in world history. There’s a reason our military, culture and economy are the most powerful on the planet. Europe was in shambles when we entered the war. Not a single country in Europe could defeat Germany. Britain was barely surviving the bombings. We join the fight and all of the sudden the Allies have the firepower to save Britain, free France and march towards Germany. The USSR got to Berlin first but they wouldn’t have been able to get there at all if Germany wasn’t fighting America from the west. The Pacific theatre was basically won singlehandedly by the US Navy. Without America, there is no path to victory for the Allies. You can hate on America all you like but that is the reality.

[@indecipherable22]

Hey here’s an idea: what if the USSR had never entered WWII?

[@michaeldonovan7522]

Exactly that’s the real question

[@fot6771]

The theory that Germany could've magically starved out Britain, beat the RAF, or the Royal Navy, is completely ridiculous for many reasons. US aid or not. I'll try to keep this short but it's pretty hard to tbh. 1. The German Navy couldve beat the Royal Navy over time? is this a joke? I don't think this is even worth an argument. 2. During the Battle of Britain. British fighter production was double the Germans', as well as very serious strategic advantages with Radar, and Dowding's methodical strategy that was far ahead of what Goring could think of. This was all in 1940 and early 41, before the US lend lease act. 3. Germany had next to 0 ambphibious invasion experience against peer adversaries or good enough landing equipment, and certainly nothing that could've put a good enough dent in the coastal defences of southern England. 4. Because of the Royal Navy blockades, the German economy was forever in decline because of critical resources like oil, fertiliser, rare metals and foreign machine part imports. The only way Germany could possibly overcome this is if the Soviet Union supplied them resources forever at a cheap price (for many reasons, this would never last long). 5. The only possibility of the axis crippling Britain would be a takeover of the Suez canal. As impressive as Rommel's achievements were, the North Africa campaign was a total strategic disaster for the axis from start to finish. Britain completely humiliated the Italian military in nearly every engagement that ever happened in the Mediterranean. And all the Afrika Korps could do is weep as a fraction of their needed supplies barely survived transit. 6. The U-boat threat was completely overrated and on a strategic level did barely anything to harm Britain's supply routes. They had temporary successes for some periods, but in the tech arms race, they became easier to counter as time went on. 75% of U-boat crews were killed and infact German U-boats were much more successful in WW1, but even then they still failed. 7. Britain was far ahead of the German nuclear program. The help from the Americans truly saved alot of lives and is greatly appreciated, but Germany conquering England is complete fantasy.

[@shizziebizz]

It will be like wolfenstein story line

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@sushrutasengupta1273]

2:10 Europe loves to go to a major war in every 20 years....This was Dank 😀

[@TruthSeeker1453]

Next Infographic Episode 'How to go to sleep after Nuclear War'

[@jamieoliver9620]

The usa wouldn’t have a scientific edge on Germany

[@simonacerton3478]

Not to the degree this presentation suggest no.

[@averagejoe112]

Yes they would have. German tech was over rated.

[@jamieoliver9620]

@@averagejoe112 i disagree

[@timothyhenson8853]

Best vids to watch while doing ANYTHING!

[@tannertodman9228]

In the final scenario, Germany could have also maybe tried to attack Canada. Unless the president was still protecting Canada. Then that would dumb.

[@catherinejohnson1354]

Canada does not need American protection. We did very well in WW1 and 2 thank you very much. We didn't sit back like the selfish cowards did in America

[@c_tsu]

@@catherinejohnson1354 what excuse me? America supplied literally all of its allies and it literally took care of the pacific barely on its own! US was literally part of many operations to free Europe, just admit it you're just one of those american haters that cant accept the fact that US was actually a big part of WW2.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@c_tsu but they didn't do it alone. The British and the Dutch as well as others all played important roles in the defeat of the Japanese. The British eastern fleet was larger than Japan's and Dutch submarines played an important role in crippling and hurting Japanese supply lines and logistics. America did the bulk work because they focused mostly on the pacific. The uk and Canada did almost all of the work in the Atlantic and almost the British alone did the work in the Mediterranean. These nations focused on different things and helped each other in other fields.

[@alphabeta1337]

Armenian field marshal Bagramyan, Armenian fleet admiral Isakov and Armenian air marshal Khudyakov were senior officers in Soviet Army, Navy and Air Force during WWII Bonus: Tank marshal Babadzhanian

[@thelord2663]

Ok and?

[@davids2000]

Wow. Very accurate. Zhukov said without US aid, Russia never would have defeated the nazis.

[@nycoolj3]

And now look at what Putin is doing.. 🙄

[@scar7010]

@@nycoolj3 what he is doing?

[@averagejoe112]

Both Stalin and Kruschev said the same thing

[@nycoolj3]

@@scar7010 looking at the US as an enemy and following hitlers footsteps?

[@scar7010]

@@nycoolj3 both us and russia see each other as enemy whats the new about this lol

[@blastbomb8344]

Part 2 plsssssss

[@AidenZhu-uc7id]

One other thing. Since Canada is near USA, Canada might sacrifice territory for protection and also Canada has a small, but tough military, and the us made the nuke with Albert Einstein befor the war started, so it has a huge advantage

[@Barrystue]

Ok I’m assuming by the thumbnail that germany conquers the world. It would actually be the Soviets who ruled Europe. Germany essentially lost the control of the English Channel at the Battle of Britain and the German high command overestimated themselves. Moscow, stalingrad, and Kursk would have been the same defeat. The west did little to the eastern war effort, mostly lend leases. If the USA hasn’t intervened, Rommel still would have lost at El Alamein and eventually German hold on africa would be gone. Soviets would have taken Berlin and then they’d start pushing further west into Germany, austria, Italy, france. The soviets would, once the war ended, make puppet states, leaving Europe full of soviet satellite states, with britain being the only one not under the thumb of communism

[@TXHEN1]

How when the us send them all their supplies when they wr out?

[@Redman_real]

@@TXHEN1 us was always out they just sold stuff ussr would still take Europe maybe the way to France

[@TXHEN1]

@@Redman_real Is that what stalins memo said to roosevelt? : Stay out of this we got this! we will just take Europe maybe by way of France.. or did he ask him for help to stand a CHANCE against the germans? r u saying now that u know more then stalin did back then?

[@averagejoe112]

Yeah the USSR would have lost badly without lend lease. The real MVP is the US economy - capable of supplying it's own two front war, the USSR, the UK, Australia, Canada all at once.

[@shakityaasherwin636]

lol no. The US lend lease was literally of more than 80k trucks and other armoured vehicles, plus a huge percent of USSR's food supply was from the US due to its scorched earth policy. US literally supplied ALL of its allies.

[@Polish-Phoenician]

POV: You didn't pay attention to history

[@HateBear-real]

That's like this dude's entire channel. It's amazing how this site just promotes flat-out disinfo and unhealthy obsessions like 24/7.

[@xapaga1]

Too much praise for the USA, which I find unrealistic even for a "What if" scenario.

[@mrsaanes]

Was anything he said wrong or you just don't like America

[@frostking3566]

There was literally nothing incorrect in the video tho 😂 The US was just in a better place than Europe at the time

[@arturommolina5967]

So you’re telling me the war would have still be won without all the billions of dollars the US gave to the Allies so they can even get materials and guns to fight. Which they could not provide for themself.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@mrsaanes actually yes almost everything he said was wrong. For example the uk could not replace there losses without America aid is factually incorrect. The British out produce the Germans in everything and the overwhelming majority of that was produced by britain. He also said the Germans would out gun and wear down the uk navy, this is untrue and impossible, it would never happen and the uboats wouldn't be able to do so. He also said that the uboats would blockade the British but they didnt because they couldn't, America support in the Atlantic was certainly acceptable but would not otherwise change the outcome as the British did most of the work in the Atlantic supported by the Canadians. This video is a joke and an insult to American intelligence.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@frostking3566 everything in the video was wrong. There is no chance of an invasion of britain being successful, that's one example. His video is basically all the ridiculous and impossible ways the Germans could win the war without actually accounting for the actual facts of who the Germans were and how powerful the enemies they were facing were.

[@zatrem2627]

i wish it stayed out bro

[@michaelinzo]

This is a very scary alternate timeline...

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

MiChaelinzo Only when you are looking at a screen

[@michaelinzo]

@@Thesaurcery4U2C should we just listen

[@staffan-]

This video feels somewhat onesided to me. Although US aid to Soviet was important, Germany also strained its industrial resources to the limit and could not endure against Soviet. The country was too large and their leaders too willing to accept human losses and just keep throwing men into battle. I belive no US intervention would have resulted in most of Europe becomming Soviet puppet states.

[@skeleex]

Both Stalin and Zhukov said they wouldn’t have won the war without the lends lease. Without the lends lease or The threat of an invasion of France Germany could focus its entire air force and army on the eastern front

[@valentinkogler3942]

@@skeleex the sovjets by themselfs eliminated 80% of all german military resources during WW2 The US only joined after the 3rd reichs heavy losses on the eastern front were confirmed and the their ultimate downfall was inevitable. ... To scim as many german technologies as possible right under the noses of their war weakend deptors. Like any cheap "Loot Ninja".

[@Imbread1021]

@@skeleex I never heard of them saying that. USSR was supported by mongolia who keeps sending them food, clothes and horses. From what I remember mongolia gave them for free and more than usa lend lease. Even they used their own money to create entire airplane and tank brigade for ussr

[@kkpenney444]

@@Imbread1021 Just because you'd never heard of them saying that doesn't mean the didn't in fact say just that.

[@Imbread1021]

@@kkpenney444 from what I remember Stalin said "Get me aluminium and anti aircraft guns and I can fight few years" he never mentioned lend lease

[@aloysiusoh197]

Ok so if this scenario even happened, the USA would either be the literal unstoppable superpower, or the world is dead

[@MountainDuwu]

Nothing would change, that’s what. The USSR would have still beat them. Albeit a few years later. They were already pushing them back before they joined, America joining only made it faster.

[@HENSIONAVDUli]

Without America And Winter , USSR would be German Land 😉

[@MountainDuwu]

@@HENSIONAVDUli yes but winter doesn’t just stop, the USSR was already beating the Germans, no? During the winter they beat them, and they held the ground during the summer. The only thing America joining did was prevent a communist takeover. They made Western Europe capitalist.

[@HENSIONAVDUli]

@@MountainDuwu Stalin Said himself that , the USSR could Not have won WW2 Without the Help of the Allies 😉. Accept the truth Kid !!!

[@MountainDuwu]

@@HENSIONAVDUli Just because he said it doesn't mean he meant it. he also said a lot of other things that weren't true. We have no way of knowing what would have happened, but *at the time* they were WINNING!

[@HENSIONAVDUli]

@@MountainDuwu No Stalin just Said the truth 😉 . Accept the truth Kid

[@rajveerjadhav5537]

Look the video is superb!! I just wanted to know, which background music is used here😅

[@caitlin30851]

Love your videos

[@danholm4952]

maybe we would have health care for all like other developed countries?

[@adamjhauber]

😂😂😂😂

[@hiddenname9809]

wrong video, bud.

[@bigc562]

I feel like I’m the the second scenario Germany would still lose, American aid would help the UK but I feel like even with no soldiers the UK would still slowly defeat the Germans.

[@simonacerton3478]

The UK was on the verge of famine at the time so no way they could defeat Germany.

[@bigc562]

@@simonacerton3478 They we’re getting supplies from the US, the Soviets would have conquered nearly all of Germany though and the UK would have most likely liberated Western Europe apart from Denmark.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@bigc562 The UK was in no position to do so, don't forget the UK merely contributed 15% to the defeat of the Nazi's, while the USSR contributed over 50%. So if anything it would eventually have been the Soviets who would have liberated pretty much all of Europe.

[@TXHEN1]

What's funny is my r u gf told how they never teach how much the u s helped them over there, in fact they are thought that the w a r was won because of the r u and that they are the worlds super power. I had to mention to her that yes we owe a lot to them but they wouldn't of been able to do what they did without the u s . Lot of them now even still think they are the strongest power but you have to remember that's what their propaganda teaches them and that they are not a free country.

[@The-Rookie01]

this is so true!! same thing with me and our ru friend, wen we started talking about the world he was really claiming his country was number 1 and that they could easily topple the us and ur right it took us a while to realize that they have bean brought up to think this way.

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

@@The-Rookie01 If they were to ever have to battle the US, it would be important to them to think that way. Otherwise the boys would drop their guns and surrender.

[@kireznerol5170]

I agree to both of you. Still western societies also often teach their children only their side of the story.

[@willweed6168]

Good vid

[@the_ender4791]

15:46: Every resistance movement: Are you two becoming best friends? This is ridiculous!

[@TheHONKLER1488]

Evil won WW2

[@EAcapuccino]

05:19 - Our finest historical moment in the war! 😃 RAF 🇬🇧🛩️ v 🛩️🇩🇪 Luftwaffe

[@alanboyd3579]

And despite what the video said we did it without any significant help from the USA!

[@timsonins]

Hi, Latvian here. In russian schools (which remain in large quantities due to our parents and grandparents being born in USSR and stuck here since 1991), we were taught ww2 history from the USSR standpoint. In books, lend-lease is not mentioned. Almost every russian here thinks that USSR overturned the tide of war not due to lend-lease, but "sheer will and bravery" I too was brainwashed. Now this (points at 9:42-10:59) is a way more logical explanation

[@reginaldcopperbottom1738]

But it was the will power of the ussr,including lend lease but that contributed 15%

[@aleks5022]

You are actually being brainwashed now much more than your parents and grandparents were in the USSR. The history they learnt in schools about WWII was way closer to the whole truth of what was really going on.

[@THUKUNA.........C]

This guy is talking nonsense sea lion was an impossible thing to do the gb navy would have demoliched any atempt and the ussr would have still won even if the ussr lost moscow

[@papaheniz6512]

Man’s really called the Chinese unsophisticated 💀😂

[@ky0611]

I hate to say it but WW2 is what made America the superpower it is today and made us involved in everything.

[@Uchihamadara2255]

I hate people who really downplay ussr in ww2 they carried the whole war lol

[@Anonymous-qj3sf]

This is really insane... 80% of all German losses were on the EASTERN FRONT, as were ALL of the fierce battles. In Stalingrad alone, the Germans lost more soldiers than on the entire Western Front.

[@averagejoe112]

@@Anonymous-qj3sf lend lease determined this was a lie. cope.

[@grantfreeman4656]

Having the most deaths doesn’t mean you carried the entire war. Most of their deaths came from disease and poor logistics whereas most allied deaths came from combat and capturing strategically important locations

[@trevon_thedragon4034]

They really didn’t carry the whole war they allied with them and then got completely blasted. Up until like 1943. They were just lucky that America got involved or the Germans could have simply fought them the entire time the Russian would have broke eventually if all fire power was focused on the east.

[@thediaz07]

LOL 😂 no that would be the US. If it weren't for the US bank roll the USSR would be DONE

[@Vitamin-protein9]

Here we go again Americans praising themselves again* what if we were not"

[@kashmir3489]

In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder.

[@ives3572]

"America... goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all." - John Quincy Adams

[@macgp44]

That was true in JQ Adam's time, but in 1846 we conspired to start a war against Mexico to steal half of their country. In the 1870's our Navy arrived in Hawaii and told their monarchs that it was now U.S. territory. In 1898, due in part to Randolph Hearst's newspapers intentionally dishonest reporting, USA started a war vs Spain to claim more territory - Philippines and Puerto Rico. In early 1900's we invaded Central America and Haiti multiple times for the benefit of American corporations. There's much more I won't include. Bottom line is we sought and created a large empire by using military force. We weren't nice guys respecting the sovereignty of other nations, so enough of your simplistic propaganda.

[@simonacerton3478]

Maybe in the 18th century. Since WW1 no way.

[@mihaibalint4952]

That’s a big very big joke 😂 America changed different countries democratic presidents with dictators just because they got a better deal on resources

[@aarona1895]

Can you please do more of these?

[@brandon_21ea]

The Cold War would never had happened if America didn’t enter the war. By the way, why would the U.S side with two of most oppressive empires? The British Empire and the Soviet Union.

[@THE_Dodge_Morningstar]

"What If" scenarios are always interesting. But Germany would always fail due to their ideology replacing strategy. The ability to adapt, set obtainable objectives, or create industrial and economic strategies, were all poisoned by self deluded belief in a natural racial order. A fundamental belief that only _The Inferior_ need to rely on being calculating, _The Superior_ only need sufficient inspiration to be victorious. The only "What If" we should ask about WW2 Germany is "How many more innocent people might have died needlessly before they were stopped" or "How many could we have saved if we stopped their madness sooner"

[@TracksideViews]

France would likely be speaking German

[@Draegn]

They would not have a migrant problem too.

[@Redman_real]

They'd be speaking Russian

[@Redman_real]

@@D4v3Serious so millions dying every day because they black a jew or disabled or a slav thats you idea of perfect

[@kashmir3489]

@@Redman_real "In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder."

[@Redman_real]

@@kashmir3489 exactly! People say the usa did nothing but without the industrial might russia and Britain probably wouldn't have done as good

[@DavidL1986]

When people say the wars not our problem. This video is a great example - the longer the USA stays out of it, the worse it gets for the USA. And eventually Germany comes for you anyway, possibly with nukes

[@Mike_HuntizWet]

What? We have zero legit reason to be meddling in the current European war

[@DavidL1986]

@@Mike_HuntizWet Im saying how each ally or country close to the USA fell, the situation became far worse for the USA. And the war which "isnt our problem" very much becomes your problem when Germany declares war on you. It reminded me of the phrase if you dont confront evil, evil will find you

[@marcusj9947]

@@Mike_HuntizWet We have all the reason. Putin won't stop at Ukraine if he is successful. Dictators never stop at annexations until they are forcefully pushed back

[@DoctorDeath147]

The moment Germany develops a single nuke, the US will have a hundred times more. The video explains it.

[@Gonkdroidtt_2005]

POV America "Let's not help our ally's and just chill" "agree"

[@Thomashallender]

Everybody is first until they reload their youtube

[@msjhern3]

Lol on point

[@lordmnm6804]

Growing up, I always thought Mexico didn't have any kind of involvement in WW2, until I learned about squadron 201, Mexican soldiers who fought Japan in the Philippines in 1942 and so on. Proud to be Mexican-Canadian. 🇨🇦🇲🇽 If only people would see Mexicans as normal people rather than just immigrants and every other bad stereotype.

[@thutanaing5532]

mexicans r cool amigo

[@ToothlesstheNightFury510]

Hispanics are a undeniably big part of American history and the future, just takes some eye opening, you can’t teach everyone everything but it’s good to know for yourself :)

[@glamrockbonnie5983]

I'm mexican we are I'm fact border hoppers

[@ives3572]

"We must open our eyes and see that modern civilization has become so complex and the lives of civilized men so interwoven with the lives of other men in other countries as to make it impossible to be in this world and out of it." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@fentonparsons4475]

You can tell this is a very American view, just like how they think the US was the main reaason we won WW2

[@kalsder]

Well they were the main reason. Without a second front in Europe and the continuous support the brits and russians couldn't have won.

[@socomxx]

Without our re-supply you wouldn't have won. Also, without the Marshall plan and our kindness, Europe would be a disaster right now.

[@pleasestoptrackingmeasio7657]

@@kalsder The historical consensus is that 80% of German casualties were on the East...the lowest estimation being 73%. Put that into account. The Soviets also produced 96% of their own munitions and 66% of their own vehicles. Continuing, Logistically, the Germans lost the lead (War) as early as 1941..and by 42, it was statistically impossible to recover to fight against the Soviets. And thats simply looking at logistics... So Yes, The Americans did help the Soviets win, especially with the influx of supplies after the invasion, namely Vehicles both British! and American...but to say it would be impossible for them to win with out help? Ridiculous and idiotic. If were also gonna play the game of who did the most work in Europe? The Soviets without question. Facts. They bled for it and they would've won without help. If you doubt that last statement then I beg of you to read the memoirs of Soviet soldiers to see how utterly brainwashed and vehement they were to the state and country. Soldiers who knew that Stalin executed their mothers and Fathers in the purge who still died for him, believing in Communism. It's such a fascinating period of history at a human level. It's also Soviets when speaking of WW2, not 'Russians'. How disgustingly ignorant of who actually fought in the Red Army. Its also amazing that the lead sources on the Eastern Front are American, e.g. Glantz yet the majority of you are uneducated. Crazy paradox.

[@theninjabird9510]

True

[@kashmir3489]

@michaelmurray5631 In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder.

[@fawnfoxmatter4969]

And then, there is Wolfenstein

[@rayoflight62]

What happened to the background orchestral music at 11:20 ? It sounds like you were playing a vinyl LP, and someone slowed it down with a finger. Or if you use a digital device, is like somebody changed the pitch of an A note from 440 to 435 Hz. The video is captivating, thank you. I had already heard, from some historians, about the alternative scenario where US remained neutral. Regards Anthony P.S. please consider a second part for your video "100 Days - The Fallout" . Thanks...

[@justdontwatchme3583]

You don’t have enough information to tell this! The Soviet Union moved the factory’s from the occupied side of Russia to Siberia and they produced tanks,planes and armour without America’s support

[@averagejoe112]

*lots of US support

[@kashmir3489]

In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder.

[@THUKUNA.........C]

​@@kashmir3489it dosent matter what zukuv or stalin said they are not mnisters of arms or food

[@baseplate7566]

Allies still would have won because of the soviet union

[@averagejoe112]

*Lend Lease

[@averagejoe112]

@michaelmurray5631 cool story bro stay ignorant

[@THUKUNA.........C]

​@@averagejoe112the lend lese came in 1943 when the soiveits where wining

[@donm5354]

9:55 $15 billion in AID to UKRAINE? Back in APRIL 2022 total was already $54 BILLION - Billions more has been approved while the US Lower and Middle class suffer because of global instability caused by sanctions on RUSSIA. By Bianca Pallaro and Alicia Parlapiano May 20, 2022 The more than $40 billion in additional aid to Ukraine approved by Congress on Thursday brings the total U.S. commitment during the Russian invasion to roughly $54 billion, when combined with the aid package passed in March.

[@c_tsu]

rlly, out of the whole vid thats what got ur attention

[@valkius4777]

@@Emma-dh1lx I hope your children aren't employed unless they're at least 16.

[@Stempy-channel]

This some crazy fan fic

[@kashmir3489]

In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder."

[@jamesm568]

It's also interesting how Germany became so powerful.

[@haneenhugaz5142]

Love how u constantly praise America even in scenarios that have never happened without giving a thought to its opposer 🤩 totally realistic and unbiased 😀