Side-by-Side “Gwen 10” Scene Comparisons

[@thefvguy5648]

I don’t like Gwen’s Grey Matter having hair, it just looks weird, but the Four Arms having hair is fine, since we see their species having hair before.

[@maxwaspace5348]

maybe it was a glitch?

[@xanderm6090]

@@maxwaspace5348 Possibly due to Ben from some random timeline hopping into this universe to begin with.

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

Agree

[@Retro_Red]

Don't Galvans have hair? I'm sure I saw something like that.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

@@Retro_Red they have whiskers but more so like catfish whiskers similar to facial hair, nothing like that, though maybe it could've been a patch of bright skin like some frogs have since Galvans are froglike but that's a bit of a stretch

[@saintsummerz]

Kuro:talking in the intro His cat: ⬅️🐈 ➡️

[@trenageddon6465]

yeah🤣 The cat is like walking across the desk left and right

[@ShibuNub3305]

It’s *G R O O V I N*

[@orignialname4983]

It's *S H M O V I N G*

[@toxikkchan2052]

It's *W A L K I N G*

[@LucyWest370]

it’s *V I B I N*

[@megafox3753]

I never even realized how many shots are the same in these episodes this is gonna be unique

[@moha94vss38]

I always saw it

[@ZillaKingYT77]

Yeah many shots were the same in these episodes

[@Nevaletaniggakno]

my guy is an actual legend, he's still able to stay serious despite the fact his cat is just like, "*sir, my daily dose of attention is due like RIGHT now*"

[@COMMANDR.0ID]

timestamp?

[@silverace7442]

@@COMMANDR.0ID 0:56

[@kingboo2981]

TRUEEE

[@slevinchannel7589]

Ok, but grammar?

[@markherrera7640]

@@slevinchannel7589 um, their grammar were perfect in this comment, dude. What are you talking about

[@seirramoon388]

Cat just casually going across like "hi dad, mind giving me some attention?, no?, ok then."

[@ronniecosmos8105]

And let's not forget the KZbinr, My guy was dedicated on 1 take. Cat or no cat lol

[@gamingnubs7628]

In the last video the cat casually strolled in.

[@kylebooface6359]

I love how Kuro was barely phased by his cat walking past his face multiple times!

[@shadowclaw7210]

Ok i need time codes

[@kylebooface6359]

@@shadowclaw7210 0:50

[@KirbyLinkACW]

There's a good reason Gwen 10 exists. When this aired in Japan, the fans *ADORED* Gwen, as she fit the _tsundere_ archetype to a T. This episode is meant to be a sort of stealth pilot in case Japan ever decided to make their own adaptation, like they did with Powerpuff Girls and Lilo and Stitch.

[@rikajougasaki3296]

It'd be neat to see Japan do their own Ben 10, just to see what excruciatingly ENGRISH names they end up coming up with. Better yet, maybe they'll name some alien Hellhound and it gets dubbed into English as Hotdog.

[@abesilverbabe6818]

I would love to see that adaption

[@TrueEnding]

Wait! Does that mean the japanese fans ship Ben and Gwen? :S

[@Lust767]

@@TrueEnding no nigga just no

[@jacobfoxfires9647]

God damn it we go back to the incest question again!

[@iwanek4382]

I feel like this episode could have been the perfect setup for Race against time. What if this version of Ben couldn't live with the fact that he lost his hero life so he spent the rest of his life trying to get back to his universe and eventually became Eon. His motivation could have been to exact his revenge on Ben Prime for "stealing" the life he should have had by stealing Ben's Omnitrix. He could even blame Paradox for what happened to him in this episode. I don't know, it seems easier than having him be some weird alien and then retconning it. I'm just spitballing tho.

[@JayRedGear]

I also like the idea of Eon being a version of Ben who wasn't able to stop the Omnitrix from self destructing (he would have the Chronian DNA to protect himself, but not everyone else).

[@emperortgp2424]

Eon being a version of Ben is already such a weird premise. Why is this one version of Ben randomly a Chronian when all the other versions of Ben are Human?

[@Andrew-Bastin]

@@emperortgp2424 I've always had the theory that Chronians are evolved/mutated Humans from an alternant timeline where humanity discovered secrets of time-travel and Eon is Ben from that timeline.

[@rvng9560]

@@emperortgp2424 ben isnt really a human hes half anodite

[@d_xbombk]

@@rvng9560 I don’t think he’s half maybe 1/4 of anodite

[@MidoriNatsume]

I imagine that with Max's secret being revealed so early, Ben is probably gonna get Plumber training straight ahead, and we might have a Gadget-Hero version of him. If Omniverse did some things right, it's showing that no matter what, a Ben will always have an opportunity to greatness.

[@neitherlink6612]

I think there are two universes with Gwen 10, one where she looses the omnitrix to Max, and another in which she fills in the role of Ben. I feel like in both Ben could learn magic when facing against Hex, maybe even awakening his anodite spark.

[@danny5636]

sadly ben wouldn't be able to magic

[@xen0zz__123]

and then ben having the anodite spark instead of gwen would be cool

[@weeb5153]

Don't think ben will do magic since he hates studying

[@neitherlink6612]

@@weeb5153 he most likely would have done things by feel, and deepen his studies when older.

[@stephenking5852]

When I first learned about this episode, I loved the idea of Gwen using the Omnitrix, but I hated the execution. We never find out how nor why Ben went back in time, and he never gets the watch back, so I can’t help but feel bad for him. Although, seeing Max trying to play dumb every time Ben shows his knowledge of aliens was funny.

[@showtimewithMZ1]

You can watch version of ben 10 and gwen 10 side by side comparison which is shorter and without much talking here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXK3Y2WslqqYibc and by the way on my channel there are bunch of side by side comparisons of ben 10 and gwen 10 aliens!

[@stephenbranyan8605]

JOW DARE YOU EVEN SUGGEST THAT GWEN IS EVEN OK HAVING A WATCH

[@N.I.A23]

Yes,I like gwen but her being better than ben at using the omnitrix is pure bullshit

[@artslife4424]

@@N.I.A23 Gwen is incredibly smart. I can see her being better at using the aliens, while Ben is the better hero overall

[@toxikvik6193]

@@artslife4424 i feel like she might be better than young ben but not than alien force ben(by that i nean a grown ben vs a grown gwen)

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

19:56 - I think it's meant to show that while Vilgax got a significant strength buff from his cyborg form, he lost a lot of speed, so it's not necessarily a 1:1 improvement/match. The stronger slower version is more dangerous to Ben, who seems to have a much more brawler-focused style in his early days (as cyborg form can just shrug off anything he does and hit back harder), whereas what we see of Gwen seems to indicate that she has a better idea of how to use the forms as more than just "big punchy things" so a more agile opponent is a more dangerous opponent for her, a more proactive threat as opposed to reactive.

[@matthewolson2308]

Great Point!

[@karl393]

super saiyan grade 3

[@fatalsavage1234]

@@karl393 Another way of looking at it

[@twistedyogert]

Cyborg Vilgax is basically a tank but normal Vilgax is a Lamborghini. An M1 Abrams can't beat a Lambo in a drag race but if you shot a Lambo with an RPG there would be nothing left other then a burning pile of metal.

[@kennyfromsouthpark3335]

They should’ve made a theme song for Gwen 10

[@E.M.K1X]

Hello Heatblast

[@kennyfromsouthpark3335]

@@E.M.K1X hey

[@diamond_dude1063]

@@kennyfromsouthpark3335 you probably don't know me but i'm godzilla's strongest enemy. hi.

[@kennyfromsouthpark3335]

@@diamond_dude1063 hey there, I’ve never meet Godzilla, but I would some day

[@diamond_dude1063]

@@kennyfromsouthpark3335 yeah, i killed his heisei version back in 1995.

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

I mean the way you said it he's stuck in this universe and we never seen him get out it's true but am I getting a coraline vibe now it's just sounded disturbing

[@unitds27-delta]

DON'T SAY THAT NAME.

[@big-up-tobies]

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME

[@tartipouss]

apparently coraline is a -cursed- scary movie that has traumatised some people, should I watch it....or it's just suffering ?

[@big-up-tobies]

Um if u want but I watched it when I was younger and it gave me nightmares

[@mechacode8527]

@@tartipouss Oh, I totally recommend it. It's really interesting. Most of us were terrified from watching it mostly because we were kids at the time.

[@trontravolta379]

Conceivably this Ben could've just been taken back to the prime timeline as unexpectedly as he was taken out of it. Maybe Prime Ben just disregarded all of this as a weird dream he had.

[@unitds27-delta]

Like that time Young Ben got time-warped to the future in ultimate alien then got warped back and disregarded it as a dream? But that happened and affected the future, as that's why Ben trusts Kevin in Alien Force.

[@stm7810]

@@unitds27-delta He could have improved slightly in skill from it but that's it.

[@jvbon646]

This episode isn't Canon at all, so this isn't Ben Prime

[@trontravolta379]

@@jvbon646 It's a canon alternate timeline, just not canon to the prime timeline

[@jvbon646]

@@trontravolta379 No, it's isn't a Canon alt timeline like RAT or 23 It straight up never happens in any universe, it isn't real at all, the equivalent of a fan fiction Both of the "comic" episodes are "what if?" scenarios that never really happen, it's stated in the one of the pop-up trivia from the enhanced version of one of the episodes (it was Gwen 10 iirc) The Gwen 10 in OV wasn't the same as the one in this episode

[@kennyarius4040]

I honestly can’t wait for episodes “Back with A Vengeance”, “Benwolf” and “Game Over”

[@bradtobin839]

@KVAcedo27 I think you forgot season 3, in which Benwolf and Game Over are from. But yeah, they're among my favourites too! 🐺⚔

[@johnnygyro2295]

Goodbye and Good Riddance will be a blast.

[@ian_okay]

I feel like not many people talk about the fact that the ending monologue in "Gwen 10" about how there are "so many ways to tell a story" is said by Paradox. At least, it's implied. At the end of "And Then There Was Ben" Paradox says that exact line to Ben Prime as they're leaving No-Watch Ben's timeline.

[@deadaccount8054]

I guess Paradox is responsible for this episode then

[@ian_okay]

@@deadaccount8054 well, I wouldn't say responsible, seeing how Paradox doesn't really interfere DIRECTLY with the timelines. And when he does, he 1) is making sure it goes the way it should, and 2) brings Ben Prime with him. It was more of Paradox just telling the origin of one of the infinite timelines that branches off of the Ben Prime timeline. I don't think he caused this timeline to occur, however, seeing as a future alternate Ben's mind gets put into a past alternate Ben's body, it would make sense to say Paradox isn't telling this story, but watching it unfold, to make sure it's fine, and nothing goes wrong with it. And when it ends on a high note, (i.e the Tennyson's defeating Vilgax) he decides not to interfere with this timeline, since it seems to be alright.

[@showtimewithMZ1]

You can watch version of ben 10 and gwen 10 side by side comparison which is shorter and without much talking here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXK3Y2WslqqYibc and by the way on my channel there are bunch of side by side comparisons of ben 10 and gwen 10 aliens!

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

@@ian_okay Not timeline, universe.

[@randompersonyoudontknow5763]

@@deadaccount8054 I find it more likely eon or a rouge chronosapien altering this timeline

[@dimitrismagoulianitis7856]

We've seen Eon send ben's personality earlier in the timeline in omniverse, and it shows that kid ben was fighting Eon, so it's quite possible that in an attempt to "absorb" a ben 10 as he does in ua he sends him in an entirely different timeline mentally. Or he even absorbs the original ben of that timeline and somehow sends ben prime's mind there. An explanation for this would be that, as they stopped Eon later, all the timelines he messed with were quickly turned to normal. So if this episode really does involve Eon somehow, it's possible it became undone later on

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Wait what happened by who and what did who do? I'm so out of touch with Ben 10 Verse

[@dimitrismagoulianitis7856]

@@danielsurvivor1372 It's about a certain omniverse episode and an ultimate alien episode. If you haven't watched them it's hard to understand

[@d_xbombk]

@@danielsurvivor1372 then go watch the show.

[@ruhanali3623]

Plot twist: the whole Gwen 10 episode was a bad dream Ben was having.

[@nicolemorrison7093]

Ok

[@bohlalenchabeleng1370]

No it wasn't, Professor Paradox once said there was a Gwen 10 in an alternate universe.

[@ruhanali3623]

@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 but answer this if Ben stayed in that universe, how did he get back the omnitrix from grandpa max? And also what about Gwen, does she have to shut up about having the omnitrix and stick with her magic?

[@bohlalenchabeleng1370]

@@ruhanali3623 the way it was Gwen got back the omnitrix and Ben never got it and there was no sign of magic. Maybe Ben got the anodite powers instead of Gwen, that universe was never explained in detail.

[@ruhanali3623]

@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 so then how did Ben go back to his universe where he got the omnitrix

[@Andrew-Bastin]

I've always felt that this episode would have been better if it was told from Gwen's perspective and Ben didn't have memories of his time with the Omnitrix, you know a proper "What if Gwen got the Omnitrix?" episode without trying to somehow tie it to the main timeline with some unexplained time-travel plotline that never get resolved. I'm also a little disappointed that they only did two "what if?" episodes in the series when there was so many stories they could of told, What if Vilgax got the Omnitrix? What if Kevin joined the Tennysons? What if Gwen kept the Charms of Bezel? What if Ben kept the Master Control? etc.

[@JayRedGear]

Or just What if Ben had "the spark" and learned magic because really, it would be fairer that in a universe where Gwen has the Omnitrix, Ben should be allowed to use magic and be an Anodite.

[@chriswentz5197]

I love the idea of Kevin joining them earlier,maybe Max talks to kevin that he knows a way to revert kevin to his normal self,And then slowly have Kevin be like Majin vegeta,He is bad but he regrets it

[@melvinfranco2142]

What if Ben left the team after the events of the Alliance? Edit: You know, what if he wanted his family safe by just leaving them?

[@yudhazacharias9377]

Perhaps it's something like this: Dreams are windows into alternate lives in the Multiverse. This Ben never time traveled back like he said, instead, he dreamt and experienced the events of the prime timeline, making him think he's the prime variant, but it was actually another universe that he dreamt into

[@aleanddragonITA]

I think the time Traveling part is a reference towards a serie named Twilight Zone

[@motmot_is_watching]

I'm wondering in the episode "And Then There Was Ben" why wasn't there a Grandpa Max with an Omnitrix

[@aaa1e2r3]

I think it makes sense. the Omnitrix was originally intended to be for Grandpa Max. So it kind of makes sense that they'd make it so that the multiverse constant was that the Omnitrix ended up in the hands of someone who it wasn't originally intended for. It just came down to who that person was for each multiverse

[@LiaManila]

Well if Omnitrix Max appeared the episode would have been over in 20 seconds.

[@deadaccount8054]

That Episode was so good though

[@elone4567]

@@LiaManila maybe kuro can make a reference to max 10 in 5years later

[@LiaManila]

@@elone4567 Kuro should make an Max 10 comic

[@cobaltprime9467]

I’m wondering if Gwen 10 starts in a camp near Mt Rushmore. The different trees and it explains how Max had the anti-Vilgax blaster. He could have grabbed it before getting to the bowling alley, expecting Vilgax to show up since Ben knew.

[@jamesball90]

Pls do a counter for every time Max drives without looking at the road

[@AqwDragulum]

or every time Max wants them to try exotic food

[@parry3439]

@@AqwDragulum what even is exotic food for Max anymore lol. for alien species a hamburger would be exotic

[@tylerprenger8063]

Gives me chills when Ben says “i don’t know what’s worse that I’ll never have the watch again or that your better with it than I ever was” I don’t like Gwen’s Aliens with hair

[@DoritoCrumbs]

I honestly loved Gwen's reaction to him saying that too. Like she genuinely felt his pain and is probably when it really struck her that Ben was serious about things.

[@chrishall5570]

I do think Ben would be the best user of the omnitrix because Gwen is more responsible then Ben is and Max actually knows how alien technology works. Gwen being more responsible means that she'll spend less time goofing off with the omnitrix which means she'll spend less time in those aliens forms just playing with the powers and getting a better understanding of how they work. Think of it like when Ben was comparing his aliens spit. Is it stupid and immature? Yes but he might actually discover something else doing stupid stuff like that. As for Max since while I also apply the logic I applied for Gwen I'm also adding that since Max knows how alien technology works he'll be able to unlock aliens faster which means he'll spend less time with each individual alien and will miss transform less. This means he'll have the right alien for the right job which means he'll be in and out of alien form faster and won't discover a lot of things his grandkids would from just playing around and making mistakes. Not to mention that since he's older and no longer in his physical prime his aliens will quickly fall behind his grandkids aliens as they get older. 5 years down the line with the omnitrix Gwen and Ben would get stronger while Max would get weaker. A lot of my logic on this is the idea of a kid playing around and breaking his tools but then fixing them. He might be the worse choice at the start but as he gets older and matures a lot of that early playing around will give him a better understanding of how each works and by being limited to a set of tools to get a job done instead of having many he'll learn new ways to apply those tools others may not think of. So Ben starts out as the worse choice but as time goes on he becomes the best choice because of his flaws.

[@CrustyFox87]

Beautiful speech

[@cimtenyato]

I'm totally okay with Gwen's aliens having hair, the only wrong thing is that it means that Ben probably wears a wig since his aliens are bald. Also kinda disappointed at Max's Upgrade, because it still has the black and white vibe of Ben's shirt, I would've loved to see a red-pink Upgrade to mimic Max's shirt

[@jvbon646]

In OS all Galvanic Mechamorphs had white bellies or white parts mixed with other circuit patterns. There where even some that had Blue or White instead of Green. It was AF where they started showing them as just Black/Green with Green/Black bellies (Baz-l, Upgrade, Shipp, and the Guards in Galvan Prime had all the same color scheme) And then OV went full on and retconned them as all being exclusively Black/Green since their creation. So a Red/Pink Upgrade would've made sense at the time

[@Jack-sy8mr]

I want all the aliens with Max’s Hawaiian shirt😂

[@korrafey1044]

Would look great on rath

[@Jaykun09]

Or, maybe the males of all of the aliens Ben has are just naturally bald.

[@neitherlink6612]

I have no problem as long as it fits. Female galvans don’t have hair, so her version of one having it simply doesn’t fit, as opposed to tetramands, whose females actually do have hair.

[@e1lmoose]

when we get to alien force, can we get a kevin “my car!” counter? edit: :0 they hearted the comment oh heck it might happen edit 2: HECK APPARENTLY EDITTING COMMENTS REMOVES HEARTS

[@ezatullah2015]

Lmao

[@dvynal2964]

YES

[@daikon3199]

Definetely

[@soranora4597]

Kevin: Gwen you gotta treat a car like you do a woman. Gwen: Go on Kevin: No Im sencing I made a mistake of some kind.

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

YES

[@JoJoTPL8042]

I love how the cat walks right by Kuro's face and he just doesn't react

[@AaronDJ26]

19:46. I think the reason that regular Vilgax is quicker and more agile than his Cyborg counterpart is that all the cyborg and muscle manipulation additions he has in the Prime timeline added a lot of weight and bulk to his physique thus reducing his speed and reaction time

[@faridhaikal6713]

Its like ssj where trunks goes grade 3 make his speed weaker and only focus on streght and power

[@elvenatheart982]

That episode really confused me when I was 10 because back then I didn't have the concept of canon or not and I thought if it is a story driven cartoon (unlike some others like cow and chicken) then all episodes count for a continuous story.

[@iancruz6617]

I saw it as a what if when i was 10n like any comic book what ifs.

[@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214]

As a Kid i thought this was the Finale and i was Really pisses because of this lol

[@iancruz6617]

@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 I totally didn't much theu explain in beginning of the episode as a what if, and further exolain smewhere granda max reverse it all because ben and gwen was knowing too much costng the whole thing to start all over.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I was an adult and still confused, since I watch it on streams mg on recommendation and the next episode drops it all together. When they did the comic book page "what if" again, I was like "oh, this is some weird one off thing."

[@JamUsagi]

With the Omnitrix: Ben: Hero disposition - brave, confident and crafty. Gwen: Well-honed powers, a natural. Max: Less powerful since he’s older but makes up for it by pulling out tricks using crazy alien biology factoids. Without the Omnitrix: Max: Weirdly strong and competent, very experienced with alien weaponry. Gwen: Magic. Enough said. Ben: With no Omnitrix to take all his attention, hoards and tinkers with alien tech. Fond of hoverboards and laser-swords.

[@ManicFiction]

I believe that Ben would also be a natural, it's just that Gwen has a bit more wit.

[@ghostspider2056]

I initially didn't like this episode because of how confusing it was, if it was a proper "what if" where Ben had no memories of the past season and see how Gwen would get the Omnitrix, it would've been a better episode.

[@HSuper_Lee]

Yeah, this has always been my least favorite episode of the classic series.

[@ShawnofSteel874]

As someone reaching the age where I can have kids soon, I can only imagine Grandpa Max's fear when he saw Ben trying to stand in front of the thugs with no Omnitrix or weapons. I don't know, that change of me watching this as a kid and as an adult was nice to see how the series grows with you.

[@Skywritersynkro]

The way I see the Cyborg Vilgax vs Normal Vilgax situation is that Cyborg Vilgax either knows he can take the hits dished out at him, or is cocky enough to not dodge, whereas Normal Vilgax knows that his body couldnt take the hits, and so he dodges

[@axelnilsson5124]

Or it’s like cyborg vilgax is slower but stronger than his organic version

[@chistinelane]

My idea is that vilgax isn't as agile as a cyborg. Hes prosthetics are probably top tier, but he was at his physical PEAK when he was all natural.

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

The Max with Max wearing the Omnitrix is so good

[@andrewcabral963]

Yeah he was meant to have it anyway.

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

Well azumuth said the omnitrix was for max

[@00Batman]

Right it just looks like it fits on his arm

[@johnivanoplimo5172]

Max 10?

[@deadble5k]

@@00Batman it would anyway

[@Ginko_Sakata]

Just realized that Ben never once shouted out the aliens name he transformed as in heroes united🤔

[@dvynal2964]

He didn’t stsrt doing that until alien force

[@Ginko_Sakata]

Heroes United takes place during ultimate alien

[@dvynal2964]

@@Ginko_Sakata you right ider why i commented that💀

[@Ginko_Sakata]

Lol its cool

[@Squishito]

"HUMONG- nevermind this is fucking stupid why do I do this" - Ben at some point probably

[@Chokogdareal]

this is how I see it, feel free to correct me, Cyborg Vilgax is superior is brute and raw strenght. but speed and in that sense agility goes to normal vilgax. Cyborg might be more durable but I am not certain of that

[@daraghokane4236]

Cyborg just got out of a hospital bed keep alive by machines so id say weaker then normal. If Vilgax got the watch whent gray matter could he make a new one he seems to altrady know how it works so that would mean he knows more about it

[@RidleyKraid187]

5:10 I guess it’s just a response mechanism in our brains; I had a car swerving at me in the parking lot yesterday and I just stood there. I don’t know what sort of survival tactic that’s supposed to be, but humans have it, I guess it must’ve worked more than a few times for it to become instinct...

[@Squishito]

It's called the fight, flight or freeze response. Some people know about fight or flight but aren't aware that there is a third one in which you just freeze up. Different people have different reactions they are more likely to instinctively choose. It's supposed to be a predator response, like either out run it, fight it off, or stay still and hope it doesn't see you. Too bad it doesn't translate well in the modern day or in situations like yours. Interesting though at least.

[@KiraSlith]

The episode's title is "Gewn10" but it really is more a character exploration of WHY Ben was the right person to get the watch. He might not be the most talented, smartest, or most experienced of the crew no matter the scenario, but he's just as adaptable as the watch itself. In a metatextual sense they were both quite literally made for each other and anything else isn't quite right.

[@loganlmaoimreallycoolbtw]

Kuro’s cat be like: *don’t mind me*

[@pegasus8051]

I love the cat so much just walking in front of him in every dialogue

[@jadethenidoran]

I think some Tetramands have hair, and even facial hair, but it's always black, which I think would have looked better. As for Galvans, they're basically amphibians, and I don't think any of them have had hair... though Azmuth does have little grey spikes on his chin and brow I think?

[@ruhanali3623]

Yea I think omniverse four arms had a mustache.

[@showtimewithMZ1]

You can watch version of ben 10 and gwen 10 side by side comparison which is shorter and without much talking here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXK3Y2WslqqYibc and by the way on my channel there are bunch of side by side comparisons of ben 10 and gwen 10 aliens!

[@Spooder_Man1421]

Since Max was the one the omnitrix was meant for and his DNA signature on its database being so close to Ben the one with the closer DNA to the one on the database was the one the omnitrix clung to and since it was meant for Max it automatically went to him. It only went to Ben in the original because Max wasn't close enough for it to detect.

[@Eraser_Tracer]

17:46 he tried to in secrets, but Bens DNA was merged to it really well by then, and Gwen only had it for like 1/2 of a day

[@crownlessponk]

Y'know, I've always wondered if Gwen being more skilled with the aliens straight off the bat was solely her wit, or maybe in this universe, the function of giving the user the alien's natural instincts was working in the prototype, which gave her the basic idea and it was mixed with her wit to greater effect unlike prime Ben who had to train his alien's abilities

[@taki1838]

I think that makes Ben a better user of the watch. 1st episode showed when he fought the vilgax robot as Diamonhead without knowledge of how to use his powers, he managed to still win.

[@LewisWrAllison]

It feels weird seeing Gwen,s version of 4 arms with no Black stripes on the head.

[@tsltyne617]

I knew something felt off Thank you

[@axelnilsson5124]

It’s maybe under the hair

[@SecretMagician]

​@@axelnilsson5124I personally aleays saw the stripe as being the Tetramand male hairline. Males (or at least young boys, because Kolar from UA has a full head of hair) have a stripe of hair while females have more human like hairlines with the full head of hair like Looma and Tini.

[@Yo.goro0]

Let me tell ya something ink tank We want more videos

[@brandoncastellano1858]

I read it in his voice before I realized you were talking as Rath. Anytime I see/hear “let me tell ya something X” I just hear him. Good job Ben 10 lmao.

[@magnificentiPod]

I wanna see the extra episode where Ben goes back to school.

[@saifhosein2103]

The last episode which is season 4 episode 10 “Goodbye and Good Riddance” Ben went back to school

[@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214]

The Original Finale

[@axelnilsson5124]

This just makes me think of the lizard fight scene in the amazing Spider-Man

[@TheConnorWing]

I'd love to see the Gwen 10 universe explored more. Maybe in an "& Beyond", or a one-off video exploring the universe?

[@showtimewithMZ1]

You can watch version of ben 10 and gwen 10 side by side comparison which is shorter and without much talking here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXK3Y2WslqqYibc and by the way on my channel there are bunch of side by side comparisons of ben 10 and gwen 10 aliens!

[@jamescheung4771]

I wish the Gwen 10 episode would be more perfect when Ben 10 and his sister Lucky girl meet their cousins Gwen 10 and her brother Lucky boy in the first place.

[@rayhaanahmed1139]

I don’t know how the omnitrix would just come off Gwen, by a small electric shock?

[@zekeram129]

My favorite subtle difference between the main timeline and Gwen 10 is that Vilgax gets down there as soon as he encounters resistance. It adds to Vilgax's character, since the implication here is that Vilgax would've done that too if he didn't almost die.

[@doodledon1222]

Honestly I always assumed the reason that Gwen was out in the forest instead of Ben was cause even though she didn't believe Beb she was curious so she went looking and then went to the crash site and things went like with Ben

[@Hexamath]

I love how the cat keeps appearing in every video now just randomly and no one questions it. It's a nice touch, really.

[@CardfightCasual]

This was an extremely confusing episode to me as a child but now watching it back and this review with it, it only makes me miss the og magic of the series and wonder what this universe's timeline could have been.

[@jaden3486]

I just love the cat just walking back and forth. He doesn't even acknowledge the cat while its wagging its tail in his face. Now thats what I call dedication.

[@shen-ryan6160]

Ben was supposed to get the Omnitrix so that he could mature and become the greatest hero in the Multiverse(Omniverse). Gwen getting the Omnitrix made her arrogant like pre-Omnitrix Ben.

[@JayRedGear]

Ironic since she is usually the more level-headed one.

[@SirSadness]

Did it? She was just existed. Gwen would never be as arrogant and annoying as Ben.

[@swigster1277]

(Theme music starts playing) It all started when an alien device did what it did It stuck itself upon her wrist with secrets that it hid Now shes got superpowers shes no ordinary kid He's Gwen 10 So if you see her you might be in for a big surprise She’ll turn into an alien before your very eyes Shes slimy, creepy, fast and strong Shes every shape and size Shes Gwen 10 Armed with powers Shes on the case Fighting off evil from earth or space She’ll never stop till shes makes them pay 'Cause shes the baddest kid to ever save day Gwen 10 G-G-G-Gwen G-G-G-Gwen GWEN 10!

[@firstnamelastname8006]

20:32 This scene actually made sense to me later on. When it was revealed that Max was supposed to be the one who was originally supposed to received the Omnitrix. And that it latched on to Ben, because they were relatives and he was the closest one at the time with Max's DNA.

[@GrimlyDimlyDom]

I wish they made full transformation sequences for Gwen's Aliens like they did with Ben's

[@axelnilsson5124]

At least they did in omniverse (even though it was only diamondhead)

[@Jack-sy8mr]

“Inktower collaboration” *H Y P E*

[@darkninja3540]

Currently rewatching the whole franchise, nostalgia is kicking in

[@sporgultimes2]

I’m fine with the hair it’s more the color I don’t like. It just doesn’t mesh with well in my opinion. As for fourarms I’m cool with it.

[@luigificationful]

I like the hair on Gwen’s aliens. I remember thinking that was what the stripes on the heads of Ben’s Four Arms and Grey Matter were, they were hair that formed a stripe. I think it adds a little extra detail to their biology and/or culture

[@dieselexkore2063]

Gwen knowing how to use the aliens better is probably because Ben’s Omnitrix was glitched and didn’t apply native knowledge of the aliens moves to him so he had to learn it, where as Gwen’s probably didn’t glitch out that way and helped her figure out the moves easier.

[@АлександрДядёра]

I like this theory

[@EpicNerdsWithCameras]

"How do you guys feet about Gwen's Four Arms having hair?" That...definitely sounded weirder out loud than it looks in writing.

[@Doddser]

I always felt so bad for this Ben. I wanted nothing more than for him to get the watch back and was so frustrated for him when he ended up losing it to Max. However, a cool continuation of this timeline if Gwen had kept the Omnitrix could see Ben seeking out the Charms of Bezel and then eventually unlocking his own Anodite abilities.

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

Plus Max with the Omnitrix that's basically Cannon isn't it

[@andrewcabral963]

Yes he was meant to have it anyway.

[@AbdullahToorMystic]

Max 10

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

Yes its cannon

[@nkhdennis8980]

Yeah it's cannon alright Cannonbolt

[@graymatter8946]

@@andrewcabral963 not really.. If it was actually canon, then Paradox would have mentioned it in the main timeline.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

It’s so cool that Max ended up with the Omnitrix. He was the intended recipient after all.

[@ravenouself4181]

I mean, this is the Ben that has been using the Omnitrix for a while now. He has learned that it's not for having fun

[@dowottboy5889]

I like to think that the alternate episodes are like, Ben's dreams, so that whole "Am I the right person for this job" thing is still an insecurity ben has... I know it's not the same, but like... it still shows character depth

[@franciscorui]

Maybe in this timeline Ben joins the plumbers, following in Max's shoes.

[@bkayxyz8297]

It was fun seeing this episode when it first aired on TV. I remember as a small child being really confused about it. All these years later coming back it makes a lot more sense. I am surprised that they didn't reuse more animations, though it makes sense when the scenes are not really same. I'm looking forward to your reaction to the "Ultimate Weapon" episode, that was one of my favourite episodes as a kid. All said, great breakdown as always, have a nice day.

[@bakogouben1035]

thank u for this sieries because i wasnt born when the og seiries came out with this sieries i will understand the og conntinuaty more

[@d_xbombk]

Please attend your English classes more

[@bakogouben1035]

@@d_xbombk lol

[@saifhosein2103]

Lol I was born 9 months before ben 10 2005 released

[@bakogouben1035]

@@saifhosein2103 i was minus 5 back then

[@KeranKeranos]

@@bakogouben1035 damn you just reminded me this is a kids show wow

[@Joyoboyogomu]

it’s scary to think that this ben never got out of this universe

[@Mohamad-m7md]

but it’s not THAT scary he is still living a good life as a normal kid

[@neitherlink6612]

@@Mohamad-m7md there’s no way he did with a family like that….

[@empty9926]

@@Mohamad-m7md If you think about it its actually really sad he use to have all that power in a watch and like in the video he says “its all been taken away from him AND been un done” and he’s literally stuck in this universe while max gets to use his omnitrix for forever i guess

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@empty9926 Again like I said it’s not a big deal it’s not the worst universe ever he still got a family and can live a good life without the omnitrix

[@justice8718]

@@Mohamad-m7md Ben is often the one that has to fix so much shit in the universe that I will not be surprised that he'll lose his human vessel in this universe.

[@Hafanii]

I love the cut for "this isnt about time travel and dimensions, YET" 22:35

[@morallygary9098]

I never liked the “Ben loses the only thing that makes him special,” episode, especially knowing now that Gwen’s the only one capable of magic presumably, so even in the future were Gwen to hold onto the omnitrix Ben would be fictionally useless, but hey. These reviews are good.

[@srdjanrikic978]

@KVAcedo27 knowing Ben he would have kept the charms of Bezel making him really OP

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Max is special. No magic powers or magic watch. I more like to think the Omnitrix enhances what is special in Ben more then it's what makes him special. He would be more a Batman (self made hero) and less a Spiderman (gifted with powers) just like Max.

[@neitherlink6612]

@@TheDawnofVanlife while there is the spark for greatness, we see in OV that Ben without the omnitrix is just a good person, and that’s it. That device is what takes a good person and turn them into a hero.

[@neitherlink6612]

Magic is the catalyst that activates Gwen’s spark, if Ben had learned magic instead of relying on the omnitrix, he would have turned into an anodite instead of Gwen.

[@patrickheneghan877]

Well eon was an alternative Ben so it’s possible Ben can get time powers

[@ARDIZsq]

2 things: The part where you paused and talked about the strong posing reminds me of Avatar the Last Airbender. Just look at Ben's facial expression and head shape. I'd LOVE to see Kuro's version of this episode, or another sort of "what if" where Ben gets transported back in time like this. I totally agree that Max should have dropped the act once Vilgax was mentioned.

[@cmaster584]

I love how serious kuro is trying to be with the cat by him

[@RATLANTIS]

I'm gonna have to cast my vote for Max. Honestly, it's a bit unfair to compare the others; Max is not only a grown man with all the maturity and experience therein, but he also has all that Plumber stuff going for him. God, I wish we could have seen a Max 10 timeline...

[@thedivineshadow451]

he also has less time to live than them XD....so i mean,,,,lifetime wise ben or gwen would have way more time to get to know the watch before they even hit their prime

[@ImJustMovin]

@@thedivineshadow451 i like to think in this episode max got it for the rest of his life span or realized he couldn’t use watch to it’s fullest and gave to ben when he passed or realized it would have worked way better than him or gwen ever could the watch to ben was a debuf since it made her less arrogant and level headed the only reason she is better with it rn than ben is because she is slightly more mature for her age but as time goes on we see ben become equal if not more mature for example gwen wanted to talk things out when ben wanted to kill kev when he became a universal threat ben became more logical more creative too the point where all gwen had over him was more academic smarts

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

I've been asking that question a million times like how do you get transported back in time in the first place

[@daraghokane4236]

He doesn't know that's a good enough answer if nobody in the story knows that's good enough

[@flashygreenx8828]

Doesn’t really matter after all this time

[@deadaccount8054]

Paradox did it for fun

[@Skailbour]

@@deadaccount8054 yeah paradox maybe did it for an experiment

[@MidoriNatsume]

@@deadaccount8054 I did it for, as you youngsters say, "Shit and Giggles".

[@Fi_Sci_]

At least we got to see more Gwen 10 alien Transformations in the Omniverse episode. But yeah I do wish we could’ve gotten to see more Gwen 10 aliens in the Original series.

[@showtimewithMZ1]

You can watch version of ben 10 and gwen 10 side by side comparison which is shorter and without much talking here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXK3Y2WslqqYibc and by the way on my channel there are bunch of side by side comparisons of ben 10 and gwen 10 aliens!

[@Fi_Sci_]

@@showtimewithMZ1 I didn’t really ask for that but thanks anyway 😅

[@haosmagnaingram6992]

I would like to point out how Max getting the omnitrix makes, as it was set to attach to Max according to the upchuck debut, with it going to Ben before because he had enough of Max’s dna if I remember correctly.

[@noise7257]

vilgax spent all his savings on the medical bills so he couldnt afford the maid service in the main continuity

[@evantdc-senpai5718]

Kuro: But once the ride is over you sit back and go what was that? What happened here? Why was this different? Where did Max get that gun?!

[@christianparrish6647]

I'll never get tired of the new intro.

[@strickplayer2116]

I honestly loved the idea of Gwen getting the watch and would've loved to see more episodes of that reality. Like I don't see Ben trying to learn magic like she would've cause I don't see him having the patience to want to learn it, but I do see him becoming a full on plumber like his grandpa and seeing as his parents we're never to keen on the idea of him doing dangerous stuff like that in general would've made for some nice moments in the Gwen timeline/reality. Plus we would get to see her misuse the omnitrix in her own way and see if she maybe would've kept notes down on how to unlock new aliens and other codes on the watch. Just so much potential with Gwen 10 and I really wish we got see more of it.

[@stephaniewilliams6756]

Agreed

[@shelbybayer200]

I'm more ok with Female Galvans having hair so Gwen's Grey Matter form makes sense

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

Imagine if they changed the opening for this episode where instead of Ben, it’s Gwen It started when an alien device did what it did It stuck itself upon her wrist with secrets that it hid Now she’s got superpowers she’s no ordinary kid she’s Gwen 10

[@unitds27-delta]

So if you see her you might be in for a big surprise She'll turn into an alien before your very eyes She's slimy, freaky, fast and strong She's every shape and size She's Gwen 10

[@AaronDJ26]

@@unitds27-delta armed with powers she’s on the case Fighting off evil from earth or space And she’ll never stop till she makes them pay

[@thesapphireone]

@@AaronDJ26 Cuz, she’s the baddest kid to ever save the day! Gwen 10! Speaking of which, how would the show have played out if Gwen had the Omnitrix all the way throughout the original series, up to Omniverse?

[@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214]

@@thesapphireone the biggest diference is that Gwen and Ben would have never Met Kevin, Since Ben Dont have the Omnitrix he would never transform into Ghostfreak and be Expulsed from the Hotel, and since he wouldnt be Expulsed from the Hotel Ben wound never Run Away and Therefore he wouldnt Meet Kevin, Kevin wouldnt become a Mutant and wouldnt get into the Null Void (Wich also means that the Rooters Arc wouldnt Happen)

[@axelnilsson5124]

@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 so I guess it’s a good thing for her that she doesn’t canonically have the omnitrix

[@Sam-nh9ty]

I remember thinking Ben would never get the Omnitrix back after this episode.

[@rayhaanahmed1139]

Can you make a counter for every time max makes/eats/references some weird alien food, or just weird food in general?

[@somehelluvafanboy8357]

I think importance should be 1, as the episode isn't really canon

[@topher_69eze34]

Really amazing pilot and Gwen episode comparison video.

[@evanschulz9704]

For the longest time I forgot that the episode was a “what if” scenario and I felt mad because I never remembered if it was real, spin off or alternate timeline. This made me more mad as the series did confirm a “Gwen 10” exists in the omniverse and it never seemed to add up properly. The remark on that this should have been a later season episode.

[@i-am-nerdz1425]

I love this episode and I love your breakdowns of this show,it’s like rewatching the series with fresh eyes 👀

[@hahamadeyouread214]

Is it just me or we all got childhood crushes on gwen version aliens Especially heat blast

[@pastproductions6781]

Seeing this comparison and basically reliving my memories of the original series with a mind now knowledgeable of pop culture, I can really see how Vilgax is basically kinda like Darth Vader, especially when you compare his strong, durable, yet cumbersome cyborg form to his undamaged, slightly weaker, yet definitely faster form (Anakin). Not to mention the wheezy sound they both make.

[@dredjenkins5663]

I never liked that Gwen 10 immediately had an understanding of the aliens and how to use them, i think it would have been much more interesting to have Ben sort of tutor Gwen on how to use the powers to her advantage

[@_V.Va_]

My guess for that is they didn't want her learning everything to eat up all the runtime.

[@vondas1480]

I wish when they did the Gwen with omnitrix episode it was just a parallel universe where that happened, instead of our ben ending up there. We wouldn’t have to deal with ben’s jealousy and feeling like he lost something that was his and making different decisions because of his prior knowledge

[@Jedededededede]

I feel like Cyborg vilgax is more of a Tank, A giant Boulder kind of Threat, Being able to take the hit, and keep standing. While Normal Vilgax is more agile, at the expense of having less Durability.

[@josiahdensby2053]

The anticipation for these is like waiting for a Saturday Morning Cartoon. Which makes me want these videos to come out on Saturdays, but I already can't wait for the next video whenever I finish the current video.

[@davidrigdonrigdon4848]

what's amusing to imagine from my perspective is how kevin's introduction would change in the gwen 10 timeline, especially given the alien force retcon that gwen and kevin had always had feelings for each other. Could they have had a friendlier relationship? Could future!Ben have warned kevin about the consequences of messing with the omnitrix? I almost want to write this fanfic myself

[@melvinfranco2142]

Go for it.

[@TohuBohuC]

I love these breakdowns so much. You’re my favorite KZbinr easily

[@TheInkTank]

Thank you very much!