Adding Subspecies to Ben 10's Omnitrix ft. O.R.Ash

[@TheInkTank]

💧It's Delicious, and Nutritious! 👉 tinyurl.com/SwagTankMerch 💧

[@kingshadow8782]

Nice.

[@kingshadow8782]

Happy Saturday!

[@kingshadow8782]

🎉

[@bobbyahmad5197]

I’d actually try that

[@SpectacularSpidey670]

nasty ass water 💀

[@StanHanrahan]

This show is just so packed full of references that i just would never catch without these breakdowns

[@TheInkTank]

Gotta stay informed!

[@bobbyahmad5197]

And the most important fact here…. ANTS

[@richardkirkland6805]

​@@bobbyahmad5197Not even anything about ants, just A N T S.

[@MatthewK122]

@@TheInkTank You forgot wrong alien list

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@@richardkirkland6805 and you know who their favorite hero is? Ant man

[@phogeysquatch]

"In a process known as polygamy, some ant colonies have two queens." "Sir, this is a Gourmand Wendy's."

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Lmfao

[@marmyeater]

*Polygyny.

[@KraylebStudios]

Man ants are really woke lol

[@SilverSaiyanAce]

Gourmendys?

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

@@KraylebStudios based ants

[@spyro2002]

Upchuck: I sleep Ants: Real Shit

[@thatguyover9985]

Let’s go ant boiz

[@strikerblitz2164]

Yeah, sorta weird that they mixed this fascinating documentary about ants, with a few scenes from an animated series from the 2010s.

[@johntheanimator4317]

lol

[@togeluga_the_cat]

well they are the dominant species on the planet

[@sergioescobar1391]

What I expected: A full on debate over the ramifications of allowing subspecies transformations with the Omnitrix. What I got: *ANTS*

[@silentnight6810]

ANTS

[@luigiboi4244]

@@silentnight6810 ANTS

[@lukegoldstonofficial1614]

ANTS

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

10:10 is actually my headcanon on how Upchuck was able to eat the Sub Energy in the Ben 10 finale, he ate it and then halfway across the galaxy the entire Gourmand race suddenly all threw up leading to the destruction of one of the Peptos planets

[@matthewrascoe8690]

I support this 👆

[@sacredterrador5611]

This is canon to me until something in the show says otherwise.

[@Yuki_D]

Kuro forgot the wrong alien counter when big chill appeared 💀

[@TheInkTank]

Oopsie, got distracted by Jetray. Thanks!

[@subscriber101able]

@@TheInkTank Maybe that's why they didn't want Jetray in OV

[@Naidnapurugavihs]

Hi Kuro and Ash, Myrmecologist (Ant scientist) here, usually queen ants give birth to 3 types of ants workers(females), male alates and female alates (alate=reproducers) males almost immediately die after mating, maybe gourmands just ike ants can produce king/queens every season or in case of some ants and bees another female gourmand could ''become the queen by consuming something special (or by ripping out a specific organ from her body), (sometimes black crazy ants can produce genetic clones of themselves and their husband so the sibilings are completely unrelated and can have thousands of queen))And for the subspecies thing two species can be extremely similar phenotypically (external appearance) but can greatly differ genetically, lot of animals have very similar traits despite being completely genetically different, or maybe covergent evolution, maybe two species separately evolved into upchuck because they are the best! Great breakdown by the way!

[@chidaluokoro9104]

cool

[@silentnight6810]

Knowledge

[@twinodoom]

Fascinating

[@AquehGlowing]

Embezzling

[@Benbenkirbytennyson]

Upchuck is at the top of the food chain

[@machipachis123]

Actually Kuro u have it confused they don't have a pocket dimension stomach. They have their stomachs that are LINKED to a pocket dimension bladder. Which means that their stomachs aren't linked their bladders are. Which is much weirder but hey its aliens

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

The cat lady is a joke villain until she finds her way into Rath's or FastTrack's homeworld

[@Penguinmanereikel]

Ahem, her named is Nyancy. (the ov crew really wearing Japanese media inspirations on their sleeves, eh?)

[@gabrielalvesrangon]

Yo only then people will respect fasttrack

[@brunowillich1837]

An army of speedsters ☠️ the good guy's plot armor would have to be STRONG for them to win

[@哲二川上]

@@brunowillich1837 specially since as The “Fastrack is physically Stronger than XLR8” thing is still In play. Than its Likely that Citrikayas are likely more of a fighter species than its implied for kinecelerans. So it’s an Army of Soeedsters that know how to fight

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

@@哲二川上the only issue is them living for like 2 weeks off world

[@CyberKirby]

I THINK the way Gourmands work... is that they have their own stomachs, Perks have 4, Murks have 1... and then, AFTER that is the Gastro dimension, its deeper in there.

[@redbrachydios]

Must be nice to have 4 stomachs

[@edgargaebolg9307]

@@redbrachydios Still have to see a cow complain about it so yeah, must be nice

[@vik.o1598]

Makes sense, because it's called a bladder dimension, not stomach

[@rossjones8656]

Yeah, that’s probably there way to take a shit.

[@jakariashafin8685]

Bladder do they uh store stuff in there uh you know...​@@vik.o1598

[@JAYDOG1337A]

I always thought that the Queen was half Perk, Half Murk. The two races just can't get along and see each other's issues, so once a generation they have a Perk and Murk interbreed to produce a hybrid that can think like both and understand both stances.

[@Eric6761]

The ant/bee Queen makes sense and I honestly can see it however it brings a point, what would happen if the Queen dies before she could produce her heir

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

25:20 So, about ants. It really depends on the species, but generally, the "alates" are winged individuals. Those can be either male or female, and they are only birthed after the colony reaches a point of stable growth and self-reliance. Males are always winged, and their only purpose is to mate and die after mating. Female alates will become the future queens after the nuptial flight. But female daughters of the Queen, depending on the species, can also be divided by castes: some are smaller and usually are simple workers, specialized in collecting food, building tunnels and caring for the brood. Some are larger, with larger heads, and they can go by several names, one of them being "major". Majors are the hunters and defenders of the colony, with great biting muscles and larger size. Some specific species of ants have more castes, such as one that's just a mobile food reserve, filling their social stomachs to the point of inflation (yes, ants have social stomachs, it's an organ they use to store clean food they share with the colony via "kissing" their sisters and vomiting the food into their mouths), others have differently shaped heads to block off entries and exits to the colony. Ants are a particular obsession of mine, and I hope my explanation helped a bit! Edit: Also, with the Gourmands, I think both "subspecies" could fill different niches within the "colony". Perks, with their specialized stomachs, can eat more and digest inorganics effectively, plus having spoons (looking like shovels), makes me think they're the ones that shape and carve their temporary settlements on the Peptos system. Most likely they were the ones to build that council room. Murks, on the other hand, can eat anything, but have less stomach than the Perks. That, and having Forks, makes me think they can act as the scouts and soldiers of the colony, eating any threats that could appear, be it organic or inorganic in nature.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Episode: is about the expanded lore about frog looking aliens Breakdowners: talks about ants

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

And the episode that focuses on ants practically never talks about them. Lol

[@Lulu-ew7oh]

Ash:”you can say it a gut reaction “ Kuro:”shut the f up”😂

[@dndkeg]

Man… and here I was thinking, “Call it a gut feeling”

[@jakariashafin8685]

Ui though he said chuck the f up

[@AeonKnigh432]

You can say Fuck. I promise.

[@yamato9753]

We need a dollar for every time this happens. Ash or Kuro: *does a pun* The other: "Shut the f up" I'd have 2 dollars. Which isn't much, but it's hilarious that it happened twice

[@cgoose500]

Azmuth might have added both Perks and Murks because they consider themselves and each other to be so different. Imagine how the Murks would feel if the smartest being in several galaxies seemingly decided that the Perks were the superior Gourmand

[@Eric6761]

It's valid and my personal canon because it might give the wrong idea to not include both

[@anidiot192]

It's litterally meant to be an anti-racism device, it makes sense to include this for a species that is racist against members of it's own species.

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

He also could’ve manually added them in just because of how different they are. He probably already knew about gourmands and decided to do that for them. Or maybe primus itself does the sorting.

[@georgehiscott700]

"Thy shall not eat crab cake, WITHOUT THE SOY SAUCE!!!!" XD Love it

[@marmyeater]

Given how crabs eat each other, I hope the next and beyond does a subspecies, or maybe just a completely different crab thing altogether, that eats the others. Make everything on Encephalus IV become crab.

[@EvoBeDevo]

"What was your favorite episode of 'Ben 10 Breakdowns', little Billy?" "I really like the one where Rob and Ryan talked about ants for a LOOOOOOOOONG time!"

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Absolutely it was fascinating hearing Kuro and Ash yap about ants.

[@anshnaik21]

Ben 10 breakdown ❌ Ants breakdown ✅

[@Euclase]

Mental Breakdown 🤘

[@mechajay3358]

20:01 Kuro brought out some 2000s nostalgia with that Crazy Frog

[@Animogx]

Fun little detail I realized while watching is the fact that the Gourmand subspecies use Forks for the more proactive Murks and Spoons for the more reactive Perks noting a potential of why the species broke into different subspecies. One is more aggressive, while the other is more passive with the Queen being the bridging point between them

[@nivlog6917]

the Gourmand ultimate defence is actually a deterent. You won't attack them if you know they can eat your planet and then move away, even if you have the hability to do the same.

[@Kulykill]

The defense mechanism is basically “scorched earth”. Which some animals actually do. Though it usually involves just shitting everywhere. I think within the context of the episode it’s believable that they would be petty enough to not let any enemy gain new territory.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

yeah its like go ahead and take our planet, what's left of it that is

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

13:39 Upchuck ate the Red Forever Knight ninja stars and shot them out without harming the stars in Classic as well, also its really weird how he can digest metals but not digest food, felt like a "weakness" that was slapped on just for the sake of it

[@someoneindeed]

Well to digest something you need to have the right biological components to break it down, if their species just doesn't eat regular food there's no reason they would be able to digest it and I don't think it was a slapped on weakness just an interesting and ironic fact about the species because lore is fun

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Si exactamente como usarías eso en una pelea?

[@just_a_tepig3611]

It was just a throw away line for a gag

[@kennyobi9871]

Maybe his body has an allergic reaction to earth food and that’s why he can’t digest it. I mean some people can eat meat but they’ll die if they eat peanuts. Maybe upchuck can just eat metal but his body can’t handle a burger.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

I always thought his stomach fluids have this all digesting enzyme as anything he ate became the same exploding goo (except the ninja stars) @@someoneindeed

[@rachelbernatowicz9391]

okay but "Captain Revonnahgander" is perfect because Rook not only did that move with his shield here, but he's also voiced by Bumper Robinson, who went on to play Sam Wilson/the Falcon (although I'm not sure if his specific version became Captain America, I know that character in general does)

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

And, well, Rook IS a boy scout ass I love him

[@superhydra8873]

I think the best part of this episode is that ben learned from His past mistakes regarding diplomacy, last time he tried to force it to work, this time, he didn't force anything

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

yeah not many people talk about this

[@BeastForce141]

The start of the Incursean Invasion Arc.

[@christianparrish3292]

Incursean.

[@BeastForce141]

@@christianparrish3292Thanks

[@Mr.WestcottX]

Indeed.

[@christianparrish3292]

​@@BeastForce141 You're welcome

[@pemanilnoob]

Each episode we’re coming closer to my love, Bullfrag

[@Omnitrixter_memes]

32:13 I don't know why but there's something Hilarious about Ben just killing his enemies.

[@miguelbianchi968]

37:32 I think eating the planet leaving pieces creates more asteroids to ward off invaders

[@KINGcagedbuzzkill]

Ash and Rob brainstorming possible Gourmand lore for a future And Beyond episode. Kidding (unless?), but genuinely it was really fun to see them discussing theories about the species. Especially with comparing them with ants.

[@aktivniigomes1989]

2 hours talking about ants?? Damn, please release it on the rust bucket, that would be great

[@mechajay3358]

Upchuck's race may look like Frogs, but act like ANTS.

[@DevonLeSuer]

32:15 Actually since the incurseans are based on frogs they could still be very much alive if you know how frog biology works.

[@redbrachydios]

Oh yeah, the frogs that freeze themselves for hibernation

[@abdulahiadde]

Kuro You Forget To Count The Miss Transformation Counter When Ben Tries To Tranform To Jetray But Instead He Got Big Chill

[@federicoarmada8775]

I don't think the subspecies discussion matters that much because, if Ben or Azmuth wanted, there should be a way to calibrate the Omnitrix to be more specific with its differentiation of species.

[@dubbingsync]

It was made to scan all sorts of life right… at least to act as a catalogue of species on planets. Though it does tend to be the more sentient species so it’s not like Ben could turn into an ant or something similar from another planet… unless it can think for itself and not just rely on instinct. So it’s understandable that is a subspecies is different enough that it would work.

[@OldStank]

I wonder if eating organic food is a trait that the Gourmand has to grow into. Like a 10-11 year old Gourmand can't digest normal food but an older, more experienced one, can.

[@SkyPerson]

That actually makes perfect sense, there should really be more examples of Aliens getting new powers or just having a big change because of maturity

[@theking8347]

I think Big Chill "timing out" was a featute of the new Omnitrix to conserve energy. When Ben has done what he needs to do with a certain form, he reverts back to save energy and shorten the cooldown time between transformations.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

I've always saw it as that.

[@mustafamohamad4876]

This is probably the only difference I know between perks and murks is that perks have four thin tongues while murks have one thick tongue. I know it’s minuscule but it’s one difference

[@theblade5615]

"Gut reaction" was just perfect.

[@ghostspider2056]

I think brown Tetramands are also a thing. It’s also stated that there are white Appleplexions similar to real tigers. But this would be the first time it’s explained on screen.

[@ethansanchez6267]

I always assumed the Queen was given that role because they are living proof that two species can work together. The Queen looks has a Perk color palette, but Murk patterns, which I always thought that meant they were a hybrid of both species.

[@hyperion472]

I love this episode, especially Plan Omega, and Ben's utter confusion. Ben 10 explaining creatures like the Gourmand is so interesting to me. The species itself is not a very smart kind, but also not as primal as, for example vulpimancers. I would really like to know how the galaxy around them reacts to the planets just being eaten and the whole species just moving to another. Also, I'd say it's a GourWendy's. Or a GourMandy's.

[@truegameslayer]

Fun fact, certain frogs can freeze over entirely, just be frozen, then thaw out and be fine. So no, Ben did not kill those Incurseans. Probably.

[@flamingshowgun9994]

Bro at 35:58 what the fuck was this, sure kuro and ash gave an explanation but still I’m like WHAT!

[@TheBrywarrior90]

@18:40 My understanding of this is not that Ben is actually timing out, but that he's intentionally reverting his form. The sound effects team just kinda put that sound effect in whenever he changes back, and you can only tell if it was intentional based on how Ben reacts to it.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

That's been my understanding of it for a while.

[@Nedoiko]

The gourmands life plan really puts me to think. Specially regarding to how fast they just send matter away, i can't avoid speculating something like the gourmand eventually eating the whole universe, and the gastro dimension creating a new big bang in the form of some sort of cosmic belch

[@mechajay3358]

DJW really opened Pandora's Box by introducing the subspecies concept all because he liked Upchuck's two different art styles.

[@saucymongoose7246]

Yeah, I didn't think he'd thought fans would take it thst far 😅

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

He probably thought the fans wouldn't take it to far. But hey at least it causes discussion.

[@Eric6761]

Honestly I don't care about the subspecies being counted as different forms because azmuth intended to be a tool of peace, imagine how insulting would be to a specie that you included one but not the other, it's kinda giving some wrong implications

[@skibot9974]

@@Eric6761best way I’ve heard it justified is Azmurh knew if he picked one Upchuck over the other it would result in a civil war

[@Eric6761]

@@skibot9974 exactly, it would be chaos

[@thealpacaofsupport258]

My subspecies thingie interpretation is tbis: Omnitrix only scans subspecies if it would be relevant for the species, in the case of Upchuck's species, their population is made by Both subpecies, if one was just a minority of the population it wouldn't matter, but here both subspecies are important for their Culture The omnitrix is both a Noe's ark and also a device to allow species to understand each other, so in a case like this the omnitrix would scan both subspecies Another theory/interpretation is that the difference in genes that would make the omnitrix seem fit to scan both species would be in stuff like the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, you would look at them and say "yeah, those two are related" but the differences in brain and bone structure would be notorious and would qualify an omnitrix transformation if the situation'd deem it necesary, same case as previous interpretation, they have no place in our culture as a species besides history, so the omnitrix wouldn't scan it

[@monkiking778]

Love the breakdown upchuck is a alien that i grew love very much Also kuro at 18:34 big chill is a miss transformation that wasnt counted

[@nonvous6633]

Ben: "I don't like to freeze people." Also Ben: 32:06

[@diegopansini3152]

10:25 Reminds me of when Kevin was hypnotized 😂

[@epicfail7874]

17:48 Petropia's destruction: am I a joke to you?

[@TheInkTank]

True, but he did need a special crystal to do so

[@epicfail7874]

​@@TheInkTank but does Rook know that. Also while he didn't do it through raw power Aggregor almost destroyed Picciss.

[@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_]

I'm so proud of Ash for that gut reaction joke.

[@batmanbeyond5766]

18:33 you forgot a mis-transformation

[@christianparrish3292]

3:39 well, well, Professor H makes a reappearance. Now, who got to voice him?

[@TheInkTank]

Kellen brings the talent once more!

[@christianparrish3292]

@@TheInkTank good 'Ol Kellen! He rocks! Did he also voice plugg, or was that someone else?

[@TheInkTank]

@@christianparrish3292 That was Ash. We have more surprise additions to the cast in the full episode!

[@christianparrish3292]

​@@TheInkTank noice!

[@andrewbabiak5233]

20:20 Echo Echo seems to have a bit of frog in him too, and a very frog-relevant power set (sound projection, multiplication 😏)

[@hert2458]

Honestly really liked the episode a lot, very creative take on the Gourmands and their subspecies, but agree that it's not perfect and glad it got a decent score also loved the animated add

[@monochronous1661]

There was way more discussion about ants here than during the "It was them" breakdown

[@scodeknight3178]

I like to think the reason why attire is now a teenager despite only being a year since we’ve seen her technically is because, of the stasis jail, which she was putting in alien force. I think, maybe instead of freezing them and stopping them from ageing it instead accelerates their age, so translation attires mother would be dead

[@LittlePixles]

The ant argument makes sense because if the Queen was based on a queen bee, the Gourmands would just feed a random baby special food to make a new Queen. They'd still panic but they have resources to make a new Queen while ants don't

[@someoneindeed]

Eh depends on ant species, they can be very very different, some can adopt new queens, in some there are workers that can replace the queen and there's even ant species where there isn't really a queen and they operate more like some kind of pack in which it's simply the most dominant that gets to be the one that reproduces

[@Martin-yh7vi]

@@someoneindeed Pretty much, that's why some of the facts they researched contradicted with each other as Ant species and how they reproduce differ like you said. Black crazy ants for example can have multiple queens and can somehow birth clones of the previous male ant and female queen ant in which they can breed and be genetically fine despite technically being siblings lol. While fire ants need 1 queen and if no new ant queen replaces the old one, the whole colony just dies out.

[@christianparrish3292]

25:54 that's not the simple episode. That's the Fool's Gold episode.

[@sobakiin1797]

For the purpose of Plan Omega, it’s shown at the start that pestos is surrounded by huge swarms of space debris, maybe the plan is to throw so many rocks around the neighborhood that moving large ships through the vicinity becomes impossible. It’s a bit like digging up a moat and piling the dirt into a rampart, except the moat is a trail of tectonically unstable planets that make the system look unappealing and the rampart is a giant asteroid belt.

[@LordofFear6970]

The way the Gourmand Queen/colony relationship is also similar to a Xenomorph’s relation to their respective Xenomorph Queen in their hive (which was also based off of ants) but it’s a little different to where if the Queen dies every Xenomorph that was connected to the hive becomes disabled for at least either a while or until another Xenomorph evolves into a Queen because the Xenomorphs have what is basically a hive mind based psychic connection to the Queen and it essentially breaks their mind when the Queen dies

[@Yatta-777]

The Gourmond's being Insect-frogs is so interesting. I love it. A mother queen that births the the rest of the up chucks.

[@RDY-ye9cz]

37:10 They’re Gourm-Ants!!!

[@nateds7326]

Hell yeah, were finally at teenage Atteah's debut! Princess Atteah is low-key one of the best villains in the show imo. She's not especially strong like Agreggor or Vilgax, or especially intimidating like Malware. She's just really damn fun to watch, and hilarious. Tara Strong is killing harder than usual, she has great lines and quips, and her dynamic with Psychobos, Ben and Milious are so much fun. I feel like Kevin with Wrath, Atteas one of the only villains where when she shows up I wanna get some pop corn and watch.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

and she has a long tongue

[@nateds7326]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 oh yeah, can't forget that

[@woundedzilla1517]

I love the subspecies retcon for upchuck. He was already a personal favorite of mine and getting double up chuck? Is perfect for me!

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

it's more like an add on

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

It's more of an add on than a retcon.

[@elliskinahan4138]

every few months i come back to these breakdowns and binge old episodes alongside them and i feel like i just see so much more perspective watching this show again. i was obsessed when i was 11 but kinda dropped off for a few years, so now as a 19yr old i see these episodes so differently

[@christianparrish3292]

20:02 and here's crazy frog. I don't like him either. And it reminds me of how you showed us an edit of him in the ledgerdomain breakdown.

[@MusaHlongoane08]

8:45 Yo that's an amazing impression,Ash is talented👏

[@darienrouse7917]

I learned so many ant facts today and it wasn't even on the Dr Animo Ant episode 24:13

[@smolidk7981]

I just love that a solid 5-10% of this video is Kuro and Ash going on about ants That is what I love this channel for

[@teneesh3376]

When you think about it, this makes sense. Cause remember. The Omnitrix is meant to somehow revive a species if it did die. Turning into it is a side function technically

[@omegon2540]

This is easily one of my favourite episodes in the franchise It is dumb but in the best way possible

[@settechanimation6775]

Thanks for making the Ben 10 breakdown for us it's so memorable for us to go back to our prime Ben journey 😊

[@felixowen2693]

35:37 kinda unrelated but ben and rook are posed so badass here. I genuinely like the way ben’s designed so it kinda always looks like he’s on a perspective shot with how his pants widen at his feet and then you have kinda a curved line up his body with the way he stands.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

That'd make for an awesome Thumbnail ngl

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

completely agree

[@ShadyRadaideh]

We got racism in ben 10 before gta 6

[@x-zotic_minded]

Bro, I've become sick of this really.... WTH is racism? Is it pointing out that you are of a different race. Like in a shop there are two people one black and other is white. Does this mean that the shop is exhibiting racism😅. Like the hell?

[@x-zotic_minded]

This shit's getting out of hand...

[@ShadyRadaideh]

@@x-zotic_minded it ain't that deep bruv chill

[@x-zotic_minded]

@@ShadyRadaideh aright Man! sorry. Went a little to harsh😂😅

[@controllerface2512]

😅​@@ShadyRadaidehI think we got this episode before gta 5😂

[@river8803]

31:33 Technically the incurseans don’t have a homeworld so she can’t do this. It’s explained the winner gets possession of both worlds, implying both heroes must have a homeworld to begin with

[@axelnilsson5124]

The Galvans should have clarified that it can only be done if both species has a planet to begin with

[@fabiorrahi]

And tbf incurseans love war so they just kill for giggles

[@christianparrish3292]

Yay! Tummy trouble! And the return of attea. I hope everyone is having a great morning/night today.

[@jakepearce7776]

34:22 - So the sound effect here was a bit of a jumpscare for me since I am 95% sure that's the same sound that was used for Sari Sumdac's transformations in Transformers Animated. Maybe the 2 shows shared the same sound library as well as the same artstyle?

[@milov3154]

When the omnitrix can make a viable transformation from nanochips, I didn't get why the idea that subspecies can have forms would be surprising.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

exactly, plus makes the Omnitrix even more busted which is good for the show

[@polygonfighter6600]

if i had to guess on the 'mutants' thing, i'd think i would reference back to how max says that humans have only a tiny deviance of DNA when malware gets the tachyon cannon, implying that MOST species around the universe have a much, MUCH higher deviation between individuals in a species than humans do on average. and i would also take into account the theory that ben CANNOT stay as a single alien for too long or else it'd damage his DNA. so I'd think for something to be considered a mutant by the omnitrix, it'd either have to be VERY SIGNIFICANTLY DEVIATED from the base species, OR the DNA would have to carry genes that would possibly permanently alter the User if they transformed into them (aside from the DNA repair function on the omnitrix.. maybe)

[@matix1248]

At 18:33 you missed a mistransformation counter, as he wanted Jetray but got Big Chill

[@abdulahiadde]

Thank you!!!

[@motmot_is_watching]

It's crazy that the 300k special was so long ago and Ink Tank is already at 500k. I can't wait for what the future is in store for The Ink Tank.

[@AlienSteel5253]

1:56 The possibility of a human subspecies as a separate transformations is interesting. 2:08 The CW Flash could be Omnitrix Compatible 2:19 The Spider-Man transformation would be cool. Even though the Omnitrix can’t scan ghosts or any Ghost Zone Native, the idea of a Human Ghost hybrid is still GIANT Maybe/What-If in my opinion.

[@DJDroz-gh5nt]

I always wondered if the Cybertron colony worlds count as different enough. Velocitron has speedsters, Gigantia has titans, ect. It would be cool if there was a Transformer playlist in the Omnitrix. I wonder how Headmasters or Powermasters would work? I just imagine a car appears to act as his body, or Ben just rips the head/engine from a machine to commandeer it. Combiners would probably be similar to Slapback as far as the effect on his mind, maybe they would have different personalities like in Duped? And shifters would be cool but I don't know if they have a planet or they're just rare? Probably still counts either way. Wow this got long! I was going to comment on the video but I think I'll just make a new one.

[@tehesprite502]

On the whole Ant speculation, instead of commenting on the mechanics of eusocial insects like everyone else, I just wanted to mention that I like specifically applying that dependency to Gourmands; since canonically they're a species without natural predators & have super powerful abilities, this helps explain how they're not a dominant species galactically- They're practically incompetent without their queen's guidance (Ben's prowess as a gourmand being an exception)

[@Benbenkirbytennyson]

This episode's really fun and I appreciate any contributions to the lore, ESPECIALLY home planets. It might be one of my favourite OV episodes tbh

[@RiderBenDragon]

With the Pocket dimension I feel like if Upchuck or any Gourmand were to eat something too big, It goes into the pocket dimension, anything else and it goes to their stomachs. However, neither the pocket dimension or their stomachs (at least in the Perk’s case) can consume organic food.

[@matyaskassay4346]

Also, another little idea on how the pocket dimension stomachs might work. You know how ruminants (ex. cows) have four-chambered stomachs? It's because what they do is swallow grass without chewing, pre-digest it and then regurgitate it to chew, after which they send it down into a different stomach chamber. Maybe gourmands also have multiple stomach chambers like what they implied with og upchuck, and they're able to swallow stuff into a normal stomach and regurgitate it, but the pocket dimension is linked to a different stomach chamber from which there's no turning back.

[@rommdan2716]

Our humans classifications are primitive, the Omnitrix probably uses the superior galvan definition for "Subespecies"

[@sussy3778]

I'm the only one who thinks that this aspect of Upchuck lore was inspired by Kirby? Kirby also has a pocket dimension inside him, which is how he is able to eat so much stuff.

[@saucymongoose7246]

Yeah, I thought so, too.

[@AdamCronchey]

And this one might well be my favourite Omniverse episode.

[@ahmed_hamoda9783]

15:36 the reason i think is because all the transformations are pre-scanned by azmuth's workers so any species that even look different was scanned, so technically x-men would kinda count or any super-powered person IF they were scanned and added to the condon stream beforehand

[@ninomitchell2039]

30:37 commonly, when multiple queens exist, in at least ants, the colony would have to be big enough to accommodate the corresponding number of queens. A lot of them are either from successful hives too, as opposed to an alliance, though that can happen four the sake of diversity.

[@christianparrish3292]

It's okay, Kuro. I still love to have breakdowns on Saturday. And I do love breakdowns ever since you reviewed Washington B.C.

[@Mr.WestcottX]

Likewise weekly or biweekly on Saturdays.

[@TechTheFeck]

It feels like the four definitions that get so jumbled are easy to learn. Reality - How things interact with eachother in existence & how things are Dimension - The layers of existence Universe - The physically contained area of existence Timeliness - The actions & events as they happen through existence

[@Summorial2]

you have to also count alternate dimensions and alternate universes alternate dimensions are something like generator rex being parallel to ben's dimension and alternate universe is something like ben 23

[@TechTheFeck]

@@Summorial2 Honestly, even if Ben 23 is in an alternate Universe, that is still a Universe and fits the same definition. Though, it could just be a different timeline and the only true alternate Universe is the reboots, which doesn't connect to the others. And Generator Rex isn't another Dimension, it's part of its own Multiverse

[@Summorial2]

@@TechTheFeck they said that they didn't move through time in ben 23 episode so alternative universe but I guess it fits the description as for alternate dimensions you didn't understand there are dimensions like 1D 2D 3D 4D 5D etc.. but alternative dimensions are like different multiverses so a dimension with this kind of concept holds a whole multiverse and it is usually shared with other multiverses, ben and gen rex crossover, those not canon comics that have dc and marvel crossover.

[@warnerboyz5495]

18:28 We didn’t get a miss transformation counter

[@Pyrovian03]

When I saw Attea for the first time in this episode and I was like, damn she's grown up quick since her last appearance. I guess that the Incursians grew physically quicker than most species, like her first appearance she'd looked like a 10-year-old human and now she's like a human teen between AF and OV's timeframe.

[@aze_9]

I didn't expect a biology lesson from this breakdown lmao