Destiny and the new world of internet politics | Steven Bonnell full interview

[@TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas]

To watch Destiny debate gamification with Slavoj Žižek, head to iai.tv/video/the-game-of-life?KZbin&

[@xiqy1959]

Instead of gamification, he should debate cuckoldry. Destiny is much more accustomed to that topic.

[@BryanBurkhart]

Wow this guy fits right in on this channel full of Epstein associates being interviewed.

[@pomopomo7747]

Thank you IAI for allowing more women's voices to be heard.

[@Bonirin]

Women of color*

[@gyapa]

Dwarf women of color*

[@ypleK]

Forgot Latinx label, ridiculous

[@ladex142online]

LOL that was funny! You just love your echo chamber, don't you? You must be very intelligent.

[@springtrap360sniper4]

I love this running gag.

[@Mister_Terrific806]

Destiny always looks hilarious when he's outside or in public

[@Arikarinful]

bro's got that body where he needs to wear a jacket or sweater at all times to look more normal.

[@taterrhead]

being an eternally online, react-andy leach has consequences on one's physiogamy ...

[@JeromeHagard]

Physiogamy isn’t a word you doorknob...

[@Mister_Terrific806]

@@JeromeHagard I think he misspelled it phys·i·og·no·my /ˌfizēˈä(ɡ)nəmē/ noun a person's facial features or expression, especially when regarded as indicative of character or ethnic origin.

[@aarondavis8943]

@@JeromeHagard It is now. Two people have used it.

[@BenDol90]

He paved it on his own

[@sonpidio]

I thought Hasan did that…

[@azathoth4237]

but unironically

[@jamrollz]

Please don't misgender our blue haired queen

[@audreymaize]

She’s a survivor 😍

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

He did

[@FightNChickN]

Took a while to edit this one, huh? Destiny still had blue hair and a wife.

[@recoil1592]

Damn dude, I mean I know that’s true but still.

[@dominicdunn2579]

​@@recoil1592it's true thiugh, hes been de blued' for a while now and jt would have been nice to watch it in a relevant timeline.

[@MortySmith-qc8ou]

Last line of the interview. "Nobody's been able to convince me to hate women yet I guess" Melina: Oh it's comin

[@Zinojn]

Huh?

[@myself2noone]

Destiny commonly judges women by their ability to be men so I wouldn't even call that accurate.

[@jordy23elo]

Everyone commenting that this channel is “So disappointing letting Destiny be platformed” have no actual criticism or argument to why hes so “unintelligent”. Even when they cope that he only uses wiki for research when their level of research starts and ends at click bait headlines. Idk why hes expected to be running into libraries, checking out 100s of books and tracking down historians for quotes for eveything thats said lmao whats even wrong with Wiki when it has a strong collection of heavily CITED information. Seems weird

[@animeking17]

He starts with wiki and then goes to the sources too. He's that autistic lol. Watch his debate with cenk on Israel Palestine he's pretty good knowledge of the history despite the 'wiki' research.

[@AfTyson7]

Found the no life Destiny fangirl

[@crayondude8014]

@@AfTyson7 found the no life destiny anti-fan

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Agree with everything but Wiki defense. ShortFatOtaku and other people showed how wiki is terrible for political topics because it's super biased towards SocDem/Prog views. E.x ShortFatOtaku video about cultural m-ism word. You know the one. Wikipedia used to HONESTLY explain what it means, but now it pretends it's "jUsT a ConSpiRaCy DuDe!1!1!". The video is called Antonio Gramsci and Socialist intellectual sphere. He shows how wiki censors facts for it's biased narrative. There are other videos critiquing wiki because it provides biased sources when it's politics Also I don't think it's fair to imply Destiny just uses Wikipedia, he does do research, even if it's "not deep" it's still a research.

[@yorhaserene8604]

bruh this better be joke, how can you literally defend only doing Wikipedia research considering it's bias and malicious editors. saying this in any college class room would literally get you laughed at

[@ellzybub]

Great conversation, really enjoyed this interview. Thanks for these videos, keep it up!

[@Cybrena-tt6qw]

11:58 Dude, I can't believe Orwell would just steal Destiny's quote like that without crediting him. Literally 1984.

[@richardtyson100]

Fairly certain Orwell never said that

[@m1lkbags]

@@richardtyson100 orwell did say that in "In front of your nose" its a good read.

[@bopeybef]

I disagree with Destiny on most things honestly but the dude is willing to talk to ANYBODY, and handles criticism like a fucking pro. Def wanna see him and Vivek debate LMAO

[@mul7777]

Vivek would destroy him. Destiny is a plant. No gamer, I don't care how smart has the time to be well informed what's going on either politically or just life in general.

[@Bizarro69]

that hair had become a time stamp in destiny history.

[@joshuajosh77]

Great interview.

[@projectm8899]

bro destiny needs a stylist

[@diobrando6910]

I swear he purposely makes himself look as sloppy as possible when he goes out. Never seen his hair look like that on stream. Also, whoever did the video editing did him NO favors with the white balancing.

[@roosterr201]

Loved the interview, Keep up the good work destiny!!!

[@ethan22951]

"Everyone suffers from a bit of reta- recentism..." Good save shorty.

[@guywalsh3283]

Arrange a debate with Destiny and Douglas Murray, please.

[@Crescentcl0ud]

I actually really enjoyed this interview tbh

[@thepowerofmyth]

Destiny helped me move from alt right to more moderate. I thank him for that.

[@AVspectre]

I think it’s a good impact he’s had on many folks. He’s good at challenging some knee-jerk ideas and helping folks to challenge rhetoric with research. One example for me was the Rittenhouse issue. Even if your watching other creators, I think Destiny is helpful to temper the extremes and challenge assumptions.

[@rosssivertson6339]

But has he gotten any far left people to become more moderate?

[@grimmziscool1765]

@@rosssivertson6339 far left people are the same as far right they most likely wont change

[@mudhutonthemoon]

What do you mean by alt right?

[@happycrimson]

@@rosssivertson6339 yes

[@KiLLA1740]

I used to hate him. I was wrong. I really respect his opinions now. Even when I disagree

[@QuantumPolyhedron]

What changed your mind and made you start believing genocide is a good thing?

[@KiLLA1740]

@@QuantumPolyhedron pretty sure it's a little more complicated than that.

[@QuantumPolyhedron]

@@KiLLA1740 Sorry, "good thing" is a big vague, but that's only because I was expecting you to expound upon your general endorsement of genocide in the reply.

[@KiLLA1740]

@QuantumPolyhedron I didn't mention a stance on any of his takes. Just that I respect his opinions now. Which genocide are you referring to?

[@QuantumPolyhedron]

@@KiLLA1740 He has been featured on Israeli state media for openly endorsing Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. He has openly said and I quote directly (not my interpretation of anything he said but a verbatim quote): _"I'm pro-genocide."_

[@johnleoks7642]

I always enjoy seeing the malding and seething coming from right wingers in the comments because Destiny is respected enough to be invited to events and platforms where their favorite intellectuals also appear in.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Nah I think that's cool, he's probably one of the only good faith SocDems, I think Lonerbox is decent too but didn't see much of his content to be sure. Also Destiny orbiters themselves are decent albeit boring, exception being NotSoErudite who's good at debates/discussions AND she's interesting

[@lain5858]

Well i am conservative and i like Destiny because i know he argues in good faith.

[@ghostbirdlary]

im conservative and i watch destiny the most out of any political commentators. i think most of the malding is the radical progressives

[@ProbablyStupidGuy]

​@ghostbirdlary I think the malding is from radicals on both sides. It's the people who are more ideologically oriented than factually interested that seem to seeth the most at him, cause they can't take their world views being dismantled by an actually smart, well spoken person

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@danielsurvivor1372 he is atleast a true believer. Probably the only one.

[@Merit_Liege]

12:27 This needs to be said louder for those in back who can't hear over their terrible persecution😭

[@Maelthorn1337]

It's wild to see such lovely video quality juxtaposed by the absolutely awful audio quality. A shame.

[@openmike4559]

Good questions. Great interview.

[@cassidyfrenette5464]

the only thing that needs a tweak here is the audio/mic quality. otherwise, great content!

[@miloseveggies8064]

Learned absolutely nothing about him. Low-stakes, generic questions.

[@SpinDlsc]

I would actually argue that abortion isn't just limited to being a social issue, because there is a real, tangible, financial cost to giving birth to, and raising a child. Most of us don't want to raise a child unless we feel like we're financially stable enough to do so, because we understand that our fiscal ability to take care of a child is probably going to impact that child in one way or another.

[@BuzzedGamez]

This guy is a blatant liar, beware and fact check.

[@matthewa.4095]

The most interesting thing about this guy is that he has blue hair.

[@DogshitArgument]

Said by someone that didn't watch and obsessively stalks his online presence to cry about how uninteresting he is. You're captivated.

[@matthewa.4095]

@@DogshitArgument “Didn’t watch” and “obsessively stalks”? Wow, I’m impressed with myself.

[@DogshitArgument]

@@matthewa.4095 Nice non-response, sounds like you don't have any disagreement with what I said.

[@matthewa.4095]

@@DogshitArgument wtf are you even talking about bro? You’re white-knighting for a weirdo on KZbin? Ok pal. Happy New Year!! ✌️

[@ultravioletiris6241]

@@DogshitArgument If you’re gonna stan for someone, please try to do it in a way that doesn’t invoke secondhand embarrassment. You’re doing a disservice to Destiny’s image by association.

[@11ride4life]

Wish I knew his opinion right now on females after Melina

[@ethanstroup7394]

THAT'S MY BOY

[@canadianturtle7240]

I've been through a lot of rough moments in my life. But I will always be forever grateful to the mighty Allah for blessing me this hilarious comments section.

[@rexx9496]

I'm dreaming of a Destiny vs Ben Shapiro open debate.

[@platoscavealum902]

Same

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

It’s already set up.

[@rexx9496]

@@JudasMaccabeus1 When will it be?

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

@@rexx9496 I’m not sure on exact date. I only recall destiny saying “I’ve got a debate with Shapiro coming up soon” or something to that effect.

[@theomnidegenerate5236]

@@rexx9496 like the other guy said an exact date has not been told to the public yet at least as far as I’m aware, but it is set up and they will be debating Biden versus trump. Mostly that will be the topic.

[@hartyewh1]

The simple things that make Steven have better opinions than megastars like Peterson is avoiding audience capture and needing to come to his own conclusions instead of copying his environment. He's pretty smart, a good debater etc, but those two seemingly simple things lead him on to better paths than 95% of people who make a living by talking about ideas.

[@carrottvision7844]

facts

[@IriaChannel]

so plump!

[@ataraxia7439]

What’s your icon pic?

[@thiccchungus588]

My favorite part was when Destiny called women a minority

[@Jobe-13]

His beard looks so good.

[@TraGiiXzaze]

Trump only lost to Biden by like 60,000 votes. I don't think it's a runaway. For reference Trump only won by 76k in 2016.

[@maframa7537]

He barked, I came.

[@Flashifyable]

Hasan didn’t start in the gaming space, he started on the Young Turks and started streaming on Twitch afterwards.

[@orderofazarath7609]

why is the audio quality so horribly metallic robotic though; like all the gain cranked up all the way?

[@weasellylittleliardude]

Nice interview, subbed for more

[@Big-Tork-Large-Gass]

I know why people hate this guy but honestly I think we're lucky to have people like him in the world and it's gonna become increasingly apparent why over the course of the next couple decades

[@Violaphobia]

Care to share why?

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

"why i engage with extremists" is this why you engaged and married Melina? she's a relationship-extremist LOL

[@Randobando1]

Destiny is bringing logic back to the left. Props

[@SKATEtime41]

Big recession didnt happen? Huge inflation didn't happen?? What world is he living in?

[@A_3000]

Go look a the actual stats dude. Did you actually look at it? I can assure you if it did happen, no one would be this confident and nonchalant about it

[@atomicwaffle420]

where did he say inflation didn't happen.

[@perzonne6302]

Wow they got him doing that dumb hand thing in the thumbnail😮

[@jungledog4868]

Haven't watched much of Destiny's content. Primarily on other people's channels where there are a group of people debating. He's more open minded, honest, and smarter then I expected. He needs to get rid of the blue hair for good. It's not him. Looks terrible and he doesn't pull it off. I'll have to check out his channels. Happy 2024. Cheers!

[@ThatGoodNoob]

he hadsnt had the blue hair for a bit. they been sitting on this video lol

[@Style50360]

You're right it looks terrible. Pretty sure he did it for charity and later on kept it to bait conservatives.

[@carrottvision7844]

His hair looked bad here but the hairstyle worked for his brand in the red pill debate panels since he dyed it.

[@myself2noone]

​@@carrottvision7844Yeah, he's got to play the heel to make those guys somehow look like the reasonable ones.

[@humanbean3]

he's so right about the "progressives". I dont really pay attention to much politics but even as a left leaning person some of these trans, and gender, focal points seem so ridiculous. The right has somehow done an amazing job of labeling every single on the left as someone who thinks there is no gender.

[@kinggilga7875]

He’s dead on the inside

[@fwenfwemer2145]

The answer on JP is funny. 'It won't be 50/50, more like 55/45.' You underestimate how deep these differences go. How deep is the effect of childbirth on women? I don't think you'll see 55/45 in, say, nursing.

[@Liberaven]

Why did they spend the first few minutes talking about Vaush and Hasan???

[@levonandreaskarayan9035]

Destiny essentially dodged the question about what a woman is, and the interviewer let it slide. Perhaps asking him what a man is, and seeing if the response is just as long-winded and predictably leading up to ‘it’s complicated’ could be enlightening.

[@hiz24airness]

I believe his point is a chair isnt the only thing made for sitting, so providing a 100% unique and distinct definition isnt really possible nor expected. Hence we use models to attach to reality which are then communicated by words, so in reference to women... we probably share 80-90% of the model of a woman but there is no 100% and these models do change.

[@u4iadreams]

He didn't dodge it at all. He explained fairly perfectly the complication of language and labels used for anything. Sorry you're too butt-hurt about life and communication being complicated and not something exact. You don't have to breathe through your mouth forever. You can accept that a "woman" is more than what you want it to be.

[@OngoGablogian185]

When a man with blue hair and a pear body rocks up and introduces himself as "Destiny", you've got to be asking yourself, 'have I made a mistake?'

[@Sx-xy2zi]

First few seconds feel like destiny interviewing destiny especially as the interviewer isn't shown

[@Gaiafreak6969]

What is happening to this channel, this guy should not be featured on here. I thought this channel was for intellectuals

[@geolazakis]

Destiny is a good fit. Anybody prominent to the left or right of him would miss to many points and nuance in describing online politics, anybody in the debate-community (like Ask Yourself, or Jack Angstreich) would be to niche; so would anybody post-modern for that matter. He’s unironically most capable of explaining the state of online politics. And he’s definitely more intellectual than some of the “intellectuals” he has debated.

[@TheeBus36]

Destiny’s intellect is just as pronounced as many university professors

[@Mr.Coffee576]

But he is an intellectual.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Funniest thread ever.

[@TGiSHIllidanServer]

Intellectuals like Gaiafreak6969.

[@logoncal3001]

This man is intelligent. I wonder what is his takes on 2021 BLM protests

[@Hiberno_sperg]

Destiny doesn't engage with extremists. His community were actively involved in de-platforming anyone on the alt right back in the day. He got wrecked by Naked Ape, Mr Metokur, Fuentes and JF Gariepy. They are all banished from the mainstream Internet now.

[@nikmarshall2989]

😂 it’s a violation of international law to imagine that any of those people you named won those debates. Honestly, since those days I’d say Destiny has found himself in hot water a few times optically because he started debating more serious people and getting into more complicated issues, but those were the clowning days that built his career. The alt right being relatively popular at that time made the easiest and most entertaining takedowns also seem like he was knocking down gladiators to casual viewers. Truly those were bountiful days to be a gnome.

[@bmbmunoz2]

I'm pretty sure those people all deplatformed themselves by breaking community guideline rules and or just losing popularity

[@Hebchabsbc]

You know... that chair isn't very interview friendly. You either sit all the way back in it and look too relaxed and borderline smug, or do like Destiny is doing here and sit forward on it and look anxious, meek, and scared lol.

[@Mrgunslingerson]

I thought Destiny's been working out for a minute, but he doesnt look like it here...or anywhere actually maybe i imagined it😅

[@A_3000]

This is from months ago dude, he doesn't even have blue hair anymore

[@mulattomalcolm2444]

I’m not saying this as a hater, but I’ve honestly never found Destiny to be that intelligent. He just talks fast. His assessment of the Biden administration was surface level at best. I don’t have an issue with him being a leftist, but I’ve just never found him to have strong arguments for his worldview. I think his appeal is he emerged out of the gaming community, and he comes across as the living embodiment of the progressive cultural ideas society has pushed over the last few decades.

[@Wowwhataswing]

Tbh I keep seeing people like you say the same thing over and over about leftist but you kind of sound like people that are mad about the left having more facts on their side. The best countries in the world have the most socialism and the worst states in my own country belong to the right. Because of this I see more and more republicans talking about things that don’t matter such as woke and stuff. So they can stay away from how bad their policies have effected their own voters. And the entire world now with their blocking of Ukraine aid they sort of just stick up for bad stuff and don’t accomplish anything

[@animeking17]

Biden as opposed to who?

[@mulattomalcolm2444]

@@animeking17 As opposed to anyone. My comment wasn’t about Biden’s opponents, it was it about Destiny’s analysis of his administration. It lacked depth.

[@mulattomalcolm2444]

@@Gordo525Lol I’ve seen Destiny’s content on and off for years. I’m not into gaming streams. But his political stuff, many debates, the red pill stuff. You name it. Never been impressed. He just talks fast. If you agree with his worldview that’s fine. I agree with him on some things but not many. Either way I’ve just never heard him make very insightful or convincing arguments.

[@dickjohnson8983]

You think he isnt intellegent because he talks fast. Thats honestly on you dude, maybe talk to a doctor about that

[@kuatliocelotl1]

Well, I'm done with this channel.

[@0_oblivion_02]

Bye bye. Don't come back sucker.

[@dickjohnson8983]

No one cares

[@crayondude8014]

triggered snowflake

[@The1Liner]

good luck snowflake

[@kuatliocelotl1]

@@dickjohnson8983 then why reply?

[@curiositycloset2359]

Some people might say, destiny is a bit of an extremist.

[@curiositycloset2359]

I'll wait for a question about necrophilia, or indeed paedophilia, to be asked.

[@marktaylor526]

Agreed, he goes to extreme lengths to hide the fact that Destiny is actually a girl's name.

[@winsomehax]

Extremists... such a brave fighter. Bonnell is one of the most preposterous clowns online.

[@ronintage]

cope harder

[@redcityliberal716]

@@ronintagehe can’t.

[@subree_keller]

Oh my God I just read his name😂 I'm pretty sure he created this account when he was 14 years old. Oh my God it's so edgy 🤣 Even though I shouldn't joke about that considering Destiny picked his name the exact same way... But for real though, it's kind of Edgy McEdgerson... Or he's emotionally slow and hasn't aged anywhere past the age of Scremo...

[@winsomehax]

@@subree_keller How long did that lot take you to write, champ.

[@subree_keller]

@@winsomehax I use speech to text. But no for real that name is hilarious. Immature AF but I'm pretty sure you had to pick that we were kid.

[@jayg6138]

Recessed hairline as a personal attack is my first slur. The second is blue and the third I’m happy to debate because I don’t think if your interviewer jumps to communism that your opinion about “push” x y z is valid because your interviewer is feeding you content

[@curiositycloset2359]

Mine is quite simply, he's a moral relativist. O, and his wife lol. As my personal attack

[@RonaldhinoMcLean]

@@curiositycloset2359I see you under every comment hating…

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@RonaldhinoMcLean I'm not hating. I'm answering questions people ask. It's my opinion, and most people who seem to like destiny, seem to agree, he is a moral relativist. And believe me. I have trillions of times more respect for destiny than vaush, and their likely astroturfed confederate. Destiny is, to his credit, a true believer. He has my utmost respect in that. But he's still a nihilist.

[@devdogra7173]

​@@curiositycloset2359 I think there is a significant difference between anti moral realism and moral relatavism...

[@harrytowers1076]

Why is his hair blue again?

[@compgod86]

It's not. This interview was done a while ago.

[@oneautumnleaf5270]

Charity

[@K.I.A22]

Why does this guy always go in dressing like he's going shopping at Goodwill?

[@DogshitArgument]

Because caring about appearances is for middle-schoolers and high-schoolers who are slaves to social pressure. He is freed from caring what teenagers think of his appearance.

[@RediTtora]

The irony is that most of the people Destiny Associates with are extremists LOL

[@AaronBowley]

is it just me or does that seat make it look like destiny is in a wheelchair

[@frankbarrie6785]

When he still had blue hair.. this is from a while ago

[@brumalh5548]

Dam this guy plays video games for $ but he understands poltics better than most politicians I hear lmao

[@kallzor8675]

Great video!

[@nitronical6762]

I laughed so hard on instinct after I stared at the thumbnail with blue haired Destiny looking disheveled and slightly crazed with the caption "why i engage with extremists" (the implication being that destiny is "normal").

[@jasonfu2094]

Yikes on Afghanistan pull out take 😦. This is why old conservatives freak out about “mainstream news”, huge story covered for one day with some healthy “what about the Republicans” thrown in.

[@Scriabin_fan]

I was totally not expecting this.

[@charlieboardman2005]

Just a standard american liberal nothing new same old bollocks can't stand listening to him

[@RAB6969]

Destiny? that’s a girl’s name!

[@UkrainianHimars]

How old was this?

[@retep2244]

Interview Vaush next

[@collydub1987]

100% accurate on Brexit

[@DexFlex_YT]

yes sir

[@BaronVonKhaos]

Wait... isn't Destiny a woman's name?

[@jamesvance1367]

From what ive seen, Destiny seems to love internet drama, too. He seems to feed on the negativity, imo.

[@yeahright3901]

that beard is saving that mans jawline dear god

[@jessejones1420]

Why does destiny look like hes about to grab some big ol honkers

[@Snutrate]

Destiny stop cursing

[@MrLegovas]

23:44 why is my first thought is a joke about how Luv is very smart

[@TheWhisperingPenis]

oh my goodness. Look at that beautiful posture at 5:57 What a wonderful sight. I see a hint of boob peaking through the shirt, the belly is perfectly placed over the waist, the bend in the back, showcasing a severe lack of doing anything but sitting in a chair, and to top it all off the softest arms one could ever lay eyes on. Wonderful shot of this beautiful woman there camera guy. Truly a sight to behold and something I won't soon forget.

[@larryredbeard]

He is going to implode one day, and it's not going to be pretty.

[@henrylee1301]

" What do you think of the rise of Vasuh and Hasain " Damn thats like asking Dr . Frankenstein about his monster

[@hurkamur1]

😂

[@Jimmertt]

Probably the most accurate comparison i've ever read

[@diobrando6910]

Hey be nice to Frankenstein's monster. 😡

[@michaela6073]

*Cenk’s nephew

[@Baggerz182]

repent to God

[@MonisticIdealism]

Destiny on IAI? One of the most unexpected crossovers ever.

[@johnstotts2131]

You should arrange a discussion with Kastrup. Destiny is a hardcore physicalist, though he doesn't engage with metaphysics much, and would be an interesting conversation.

[@blarblablarblar]

This is probably from half a year ago, they did a broad range of stuff when he visited

[@nategibso]

​@@johnstotts2131 I think Kastrup generally has poor arguments, and it would be a waste of Destiny's time.

[@useablelobster]

And the interview questions were absolutely great, it's clear a good bit of research preceeded it.

[@beatleswithaz6246]

What a surprise to find you here. Your videos are very good.

[@trident9188]

Happy that a strong independent woman such as Destiny has such a profound understanding of modern politics, great interview and very empowering.

[@1eV]

Lmao

[@exnihilo415]

Boom.

[@edithboozy1000]

Aaaaaaannnd still not funny

[@anti-carnistvegan]

@@edithboozy1000 not even a little bit?

[@edithboozy1000]

@anti-naturevegan Its like anti funny. It has a negative funny value. It actually extracts happiness from my soull when I read it.

[@onlynormalperson]

Destiny got destroyed in this debate.

[@idn]

Well meme'd!

[@hyruleanraven81]

This wasn't a debate.

[@onlynormalperson]

@@hyruleanraven81 ok nerd

[@FuzzyRiy]

@@hyruleanraven81 That one flew over your head, didn't it?

[@ataraxia7439]

I’m always relieved when someone with a reputation for being extreme actually has a lot of normal positions on a lot of issues. There’s so much common ground we can work with.

[@cantor4554]

I'm curious do you say this as someone who doesn't watch Destiny? I used to not watch him but heard from others that he was an extreme guy in one fashion or another. Until I watched him actually speak for himself.

[@LobotomyPatient]

@@cantor4554 Who are the others you heard talk about him? He's so polarizing that a lot of people purposefully misconstrue his arguments to make him sound extreme to discredit him

[@greensleeves32]

@@randomchannelname2251 exactly. Destiny is not extreme and is very reasonable, fact based and logical. People who say he’s extreme are probably misinformed, lying or projecting. Also, he grew up in NE, the Midwest of America. That’s not a liberal part of the country whatsoever. I’d call him a progressive-centrist, if that’s a thing

[@maybelive765]

The irony...

[@greensleeves32]

@@maybelive765 or maybe, a rational progressive?

[@LambdaStuffs]

One thing i love and admire with Destiny he is open to talk with everyone.

[@jacobwaddell6075]

I am a little more right leaning and absolutely love Destiny’s content and takes. He’s a straight shooter.

[@jamesonrichards5105]

she*

[@timmyt1293]

Do you love and admire his serial abuse?

[@Alex-lm7cx]

Yes that's the best bit

[@angelicaadriel3168]

He is even open to allow his "wife" to have onlyfans and have s*x with anyone.

[@marley8318]

Destiny is kind of like Batman, creates a lot of villains

[@curiositycloset2359]

He has a really bad eye for associates. I'd say

[@gonzo2906]

@@curiositycloset2359 Theres an element of content as well. He likes interacting with interesting people but they also tend to be unhinged as well

[@dan-patrickobrien3580]

Not necessarily true I disagree with 95 percent of his politics but respect him because he's not a reactionary. Most libertarians respect him. Only conservative pea brains and woke leftists hate him.

[@FJaypewpew]

noone but destiny has agency never forgettti

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@gonzo2906 if cenks nephew is an interesting person, we're all screwed.

[@geolazakis]

Interesting seeing Destiny featured by iai. Even though I disagree on a lot he believes, anyone as prominent to the left or right of him would miss too many points and nuance in describing online politics. Anybody in the debate-community (like Ask Yourself, or Jack Angstreich) would be too niche, and so would anybody that's post-modern for that matter. He’s unironically most capable of explaining the state of online politics. And he’s definitely more intellectual than some of the “intellectuals” he has debated.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Yes, the Ben Shapiro of the online gaming world.

[@DogshitArgument]

​@@curiositycloset2359 Except Ben Shapiro is an unhinged Partisan hack for conservatism, a zionist who is unwilling to concede some legitimate criticism of Israel (though he's still mostly on the right side there, but not for any good reasons he can spell out on his own.) Also promotes Religion, yuck.

[@lain5858]

@@curiositycloset2359 It's just because both talk fast? Serious aside from fast talking i dont see much similarity in the way they debate.

[@h2o820]

@@lain5858 the both utilize debate fundamentals at a proficient level and similar speech cadences

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@h2o820 exactly. They are quite similar. And both equally irksome.

[@360Fov]

Destiny represents a minority, with regard to competitive gamers that are female. Although she can be very outspoken, I'd say she's a positive advocate for so-called 'Gamer Girls'.

[@compgod86]

Lol

[@PopeDope69-420]

Wow they sat on this for a minute. We’ve been out of the blue hair arc for awhile

[@gstman2]

Favorite quote from this "I bark, you come(sp?)"

[@lordbizzle2424]

We’re suffering from terminal brainrot

[@justins2559]

He's heard that line before

[@CRWeaventure]

Wow this Destiny guy is pretty smart and provides some interesting responses that I don’t hear much. I think I’m going to check out more of his content

[@solarblitz4524]

Why pretend you're unfamiliar? Weirdchamp

[@CRWeaventure]

@@solarblitz4524 It’s called role play man stop blowing my cover

[@ThePainkiller9995]

guy? she's clearly a beautiful black woman

[@curiositycloset2359]

Ok destiny. Nice try

[@subree_keller]

😂 I look forward to you joining the new season. Last season we had a surprise ejected member. It was quite the plot twist!