2024 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S RWD In-Depth Review | These Changes Add Up!

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[@endorphinADMIN]

thank you for the informative review - there's no way in this universe i'd consider this id4 over my ioniq 5 limited. nothing about it stands out over my car.

[@johnwheat1542]

This is really an excellent update on the ID.4. Thank you!! In particular, I sincerely appreciate the fact that you are both thorough and objective in your assessments of different EVs. Keep it up!! I would vote for you to do more videos like this one for a wide variety of different EVs. I don’t know how easy or hard it is for you to get test cars from the manufacturers, but keep trying. This is great stuff!

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Thank you!

[@SFzip]

Don't like the staggered wheels (255 rear and 235 front). Really appreciate the aerial shot of turning circle 3:05 👍

[@wickedmessenger1]

All the wheels match on the 2024 models.

[@theaaronimal]

Great detailed review! VW did a great job with the 2024. All the updates cumulatively make this car a great EV.

[@tmh44]

Just picked up our new '24 Pro S RWD, absolutely love it--we also have a '23 Pro S AWD...great cars and the '24 updates are fantastic. Great vid!

[@wickedmessenger1]

The steering wheel is capacitive. When it says "take control of the steering" it wants you to grab the steering wheel a little firmer. It does not require any steering input on your part, it just couldn't sense your hand on the wheel at the time. I drive in that mode as often as possible and I love it. In a few rare situations, it quit steering completely because it couldn't tell what the lanes were (it was in an area of interstate road work). Otherwise, I often am at the wheel for a few hours where I did absolutely nothing. If it didn't require my hand on the wheel, I could be in the back seat sleeping .

[@debrawyza3217]

Recently bought the 2024 ID4 Pro S RWD. It was down to the ID4 and a 2024 Ioniq 5 SEL RWD. It was such a tight call that my husband and I actually sat down with pro/con lists on both vehicles. Which ultimately didn't help much, but it was that close of a call. Both are excellent vehicles. For my husband, the kicker was that the Ioniq didn't have a rear wiper, which I agree is an odd choice. I really wanted the i-peddle driving, but in the end the turning radius won out.

[@James__Gregory]

@@debrawyza3217 Re: Turning radius. I have a ‘23 ioniq Limited (all wheel drive) and that one of those things I’m scratching my head about. Maybe the rear wheel version of my car is better, but I quickly learned not to try to make quick maneuvers in busy areas, like I used to do with my Golf GTI. It’s like a three point turn half the time! Even my partner’s Cayenne (which does have rear wheel steering) kills my car in the turning radius category. I hope they address that with the 2nd generation Ioniq.

[@petermacfly6574]

Bonjour ! C'est exactement le même modèle qui m'intéresse. Quel est votre ressenti depuis votre achat ? Points positifs et négatifs ? Merci pour votre réponse 🙏. Salutations de France 😉 Google translator : Good morning ! It's exactly the same model that interests me. How have you felt since your purchase? Positive and negative points? Thank you for your response 🙏. Greetings from France 😉

[@wesbishop3790]

"just things big people deal with" .....I resemble that remark! 🤣 Which is why I really love the sliding console in the Ioniq 5!

[@wesbishop3790]

Btw, the sliding console from the Limited is an easy swap for the fixed ones. I created a video from swapping mine if you'd like to check it out. The video is not the best quality but maybe it will help someone else who needs more knee space like me.

[@CedarMcKay]

The travel assist feature uses capacitive touch to tell if you are holding wheel, not torque like in the some other systems. Capacitive is much better than torque for this application.

[@cassiocm]

Great review! Thank you

[@hilariorodarte601]

I own the Ioniq5 Limited model, and even purchased the auto door lock kit from you recently. I randomly bumped into this video after just purchasing the base model ID.4. And I have the exact same comments and complaints as you do. We got the ID.4 as a family car, and honestly I don't feel like I missed much from the base trim to the Pro S. I don't have the sunroof, which is fine with me, but I think that helps with reducing the noise, as I didn't have an issue with noise. I wish it had levels of regenerative breaking like the Ioniq5 does, as I was used to the Level 3 resistance when you let go of the acceleration. My main gripe was the infotainment system. As it wasn't terrible, but it definitely felt like it was lacking. Seeing your video let me see the potential it had and the main thing that I missed out on. I do wish that the ID.4 had some warning sounds for blind spots, as the Ioniq5 does. Well, at least the base model doesn't have that. But, I was very surprised at all the stuff that were included in the base model. You hit the nail on the head, when saying that the ID.4 feels like it was made for someone that likes their gas powered vehicles, as it does definitely feel that way. The Ioniq5 is still my favorite car, but the ID.4 is definitely a great electric family car, and I'm glad that we got it. I love the auto on feature on the ID.4. But, as a family car, I'm hoping to find some hack to keep the car on, especially as we want the car to stay on while our kids are in the backseat.

[@GeeDeeBird]

So many KZbin "reviewers" complain about the window switches... As an owner, I disagree. I seldom, if ever need to roll down the rear windows. On the four button configuration, I can't count the number of times I've accidentally rolled down the rear windows! That's more of an annoyance than having to toggle between front and rear windows. I've got an ID4, and I consider it an improvement. I also think the doors feel solid when closing. I could live without the piano black trim though.

[@petertanzer4813]

Exactely this. I am still convinced, that the four button layout in most cars is a massive design flaw. You instinctely use the rear window switch, because it is more reachable when your elbow rests on the doorpanel..

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Depends on the design and how long your arms are. My fingers rest 2 inches in front of the front window switches when sitting in my Ioniq 5.

[@GeeDeeBird]

@@TheIoniqGuy Wow! That is an amazingly non-responsive response. Why not just concede that it's a matter of personal preference and move on? I'm a subscriber, and I enjoy your videos but... Wow!

[@kw_boeing]

@@GeeDeeBirdHe literally says how it depends on how big your arms are, and explains why he likes the 4-button way more. Chill out dude. Wow.

[@GeeDeeBird]

@@kw_boeing Why you packing his lunch? What he said only makes sense if you always have your arm on the armrest when you run the windows. That's over trivializing the fact that it's a simple matter of personal preference. I'm not upset about it, so there's no need to chill. I'm just a little disappointed he couldn't make that simple concession. As I said, I'm a subscriber. I enjoy his videos. I'm not a sycophant, and I'm absolutely entitled to disagree with him, you, or your mama. You are equally entitled to disagree with either or both of us. You are not, however, entitled to tell me whether or not to express my opinion. Intiende?

[@Molishious]

VW decided to not put a heat pump in the American version of this car. I’m not sure why it’s a good idea to have one in Europe but not necessary here. Most companies have decided it’s worthwhile putting one in their EVs and it so happens that the climate I live in is fairly ideal for a heat pump, so its a dealbreaker for me.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Ah I didn’t even consider the heat pump thing. I wonder what range figures look like when it’s below freezing

[@ManfredvonHolstein]

It was only an expensive option in Europe before. Probably still the same with this latest model. Really stupid because it means owners have a bad experience in winter.

[@Molishious]

@@ManfredvonHolstein The Ford Mach E is the only other car in the category that doesn’t come with a heat pump. Ford decided to put one in the F150, but not the Mach E after they updated it. I’ve got plenty of choices, so I’m not compromising on that feature. I have a PHEV and it even has it.

[@cmdrstevemcmaru7417]

You can get the ID4 2024 with heat pump in Canada, why not in the US? The cars sold in Canada are produced in the US.

[@BremerFischkoop]

The B - mode is not the most efficient mode. You will save more energy when the car is sailing without using the motor. The reason is that recuperation has losses. So some amount of your kinetic energy will not be available for making some miles.

[@honzikck82]

Not sure about US, but in Europe you can pay extra for double side window glass and you can get power mirrors as well.

[@fgerstm2069]

My main point to go for the ID is the Travel Assist. It just works.

[@thereplacementfordisplacement]

I have 2024 iD.4 AWD PRO S, still learning it. I like that the hatch in back opens enough that I can comfortably walk under at 6'2", there's a lot of cars/suvs that don't come close.

[@Ioniq-b7h]

And more importantly Ioniq guy has a better ring to it than ID4 Dude

[@bonnaud_dowell]

it is a capacity steering wheel if you have Travel Assist...(I have the ID3 here in france). you just have to squeeze it a bit - the beeping also starts if you dont seem to be alert

[@larrybehrendt4256]

The ID.4 does have a capacitive steering wheel. I would love a more detailed A-B comparison between the ID.4 and the Ioniq 5. I will replace my 2021 ID.4 in the next 6 months, and these two cars are the only ones on my list. Of course, in 6 months we should have the refreshed Ioniq 5 in the U.S. (the one with the rear wiper) and hopefully a '25 ID.4. If I had to buy right now, I'd probably choose the Ioniq 5, because it has a 360 degree camera available on its top trim. This is also true for the '24 ID.4, only you can't buy the top trim '24 ID.4 in the U.S. (that would be the so-called Pro S Plus). Thanks for making these videos. I am starting to explore your channel to learn as much as I can about the Ioniq 5.

[@kw_boeing]

Great video! Maybe used ID4s will get cheap enough that I will recommend it to my relatives. 2024 looks like a big improvement.

[@honzikck82]

BTW When you get out, you press the Start/stop button and the car stays powered on when you are not seated.

[@ronnelson06824]

No name calling!!!! The Ioniq guy is a great guy. 😎 by the way great video. The charging is ridiculous- 10 to 80% should never be more than 18 minutes. Shame on them especially it’s a $50,000 plus car. The Germans know a lot better than to leave you at a charging station for 40 minutes….. German engineers are the best in the world. If I had bought that car in the summer of 2022 when it became available, five months after my Ioniq 5, I would not have been happy spending an hour at the DC charger to go from 10 to 80%. The price was very good in Connecticut because not only would I have qualified for the 7500 federal income tax credit but I would’ve qualified for $2250 rebate from the state of Connecticut. The price of the ID4 in late 2021 or early 2022 to do a pre-order, were good. Did you print cup holders?

[@paulpak460]

I noticed at 18:51, you can clearly see that the haptic volume is not working as the Ioniq Guy has intended. It didn't even come close to following his finger (and he gave it several attempts to do so). Great review btw. Love this channel. It's been my go to source since I got my HI5N last month.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I’m not sure what that’s about. It was hitting a max or something maybe because there was no audio source selected at the time. It worked fine when I was listening to music

[@CedarMcKay]

That's because there was no audio playing. I think they don't want you turning it way up by mistake, and then when you turn on music, have it blast your eardrums out.

[@paulpak460]

@@CedarMcKay Great point! Never thought of that and it makes complete sense.

[@samjam6989]

How come your 2024 ID4 pro S RWD looks different than mine when both are built in US? Mine has windshield heater and has 6 buttons instead of four on that panel where you have rear defroster and front max defeoster. My car was bought in Canada

[@matthewliuliu666]

I will still buy ioniq 5 any day

[@msugal]

@@matthewliuliu666 but it is ugly.

[@matthewliuliu666]

You have really bad taste

[@gregpalmer9949]

Another thorough review. You might do one with similar comparisons between the Ford MachE and the Ioniq5. I wish the EVs were more efficient. We have a 2019 Kia Niro EV and we are having a difficult time finding anything newer/slightly larger with four miles per kilowatt of efficiency.

[@GlitterGuru]

That looks a lot better than the original Hyundai Gen5W system. I haven’t tried the new CCNC system, but would imagine they’re on par

[@theaaronimal]

Haha! That tiny cup holder is for a baby bottle. Very useful for parents!

[@ericgregori]

It will be significantly better with Rivian software.

[@officialyasir]

82 kWh is gross battery pack size, usable is probably around 77 kWh so around 246 miles of range on the highway.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Got it. I must have missed that they list gross battery capacity

[@Longsnowsm]

I understand you have to go Pro and above to get the updated infotainment and enhancements. Base car is still the old stuff. Seems like the updated ID4 is worth considering. They need to get the prices down. They aren't competing well with Tesla on price in this space yet.

[@uweinhamburg]

The country roads you have shown do look very similar to the ones engineers from Volkswagen see when they drive home after work. May explain a bit why the car 'likes' that surrouinding..

[@avaughs]

Would it have killed VW to have added one more switch to control the windows? The current 3 button system is unnecessarily complex. How much more would a 3rd button have added to the cost of the car?

[@AlanTov]

It's actually a good idea to stop you accidentally putting down the rear windows.

[@gauravbathija6783]

I went and took a look at the ID4 as well before going with the EV6. Slow charging, gloss black trim in the cabin and the tiny gauge cluster screen the looks tacked, almost an after thought were all major dealbreakers. Didn't even get to how the infotainment system was before making the decision.

[@williamsloggy5144]

If VW updates the infotainment system for the standard model they would have a contender for a city car.

[@petermacfly6574]

Hello ! Cela me donne vraiment envie d'aller l'essayer. J'étais tenté par le Renault Scenic e-tech mais cet ID4 me semble maintenant meilleur (?) Thank You for your job 👍

[@andremanicke8534]

The turning radius is really the one thing annoying me with my Ioniq5

[@Rioichi4]

I didn't think I'd like one-pedal, and tbh I hated it in Teslas, but then I got to drive non-Tesla EVs (Ioniq 5, Mach-e) that gave you regen control and if you can set it right, it's really great, so much less foot fatigue in stop n go.

[@glider1232]

ID.4 has a little more ground clearance for deep snow and gravel roads.

[@danielremillard9482]

No VW for me… Looks good in a review but after 1-2 years, it’s another history.

[@pnabsie5830]

I still think nothing matches the ioniq 5 for front leg room. I hate high centre consoles that bump your knees non stop. Turning circle could be better but not deal breaker. Love your work

[@qrlee6762]

Ioniq 5 is my favorite car of my life (so far). I drove Tesla, Lexus, Mercedes, Toyotas, etc.. It is comfortable, spacious, powerful, and practical. I noticed that the navigation display is smaller than Ioniq 5. Korea is advanced in digital or computerized systems. Whether it is Benz EQC or ID4 (European cars), the interior is not a break from the classical concept of a car, but Ioniq 5 is different. It broke away from the concept of the past. ID4 looks economically manufactured :)

[@stephen_ross]

The video only shows a truncated nav display. Touching the nav display expands it to fill almost the entire screen. Both the default VW and Android Auto nav screens are pleasantly large.

[@jellyd4889]

There is already a 2025 Model Year from September, where other items are improved. Should have got rid of all the gloss black, but didn't. Management decision of course, don't blame the engineers.

[@Yanquetino]

It's a good EV. Was my fourth choice when looking to buy my 3rd EV. One feature I really like is the binnacle mounted on the steering column.

[@MrTekniqs]

What are you calling a binnacle? The screen?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah I believe that’s what he’s referring to

[@MrTekniqs]

@@TheIoniqGuy I’ve just never seen the word before. Looked it up and it says it was a housing for a compass and lamp on a boat. So wanted to make sure

[@Yanquetino]

@@MrTekniqs "Binnacle: The cluster of instruments and switches mounted in a circular casing on or near the steering column."

[@MrTekniqs]

@@Yanquetino agh I didn’t find that definition. Where are you from? I wonder if it’s because I’m in the US.

[@KarmenD-ce5re]

VW needs to STOP! with that dated GLOSS black non sense !!

[@JohnSmith-uz3dt]

My 2024 ioniq 5 lease is up in 1.5 years. My only requirements for my new EV are, ventilated seats, 360 degree camera, 230 miles of 70 mph highway range, Whichever vehicle gives me those 3 things for the best lease price is the one I will get.

[@johnwheat1542]

I hear you!! I have an Ioniq 6 with the lease expiring in about the same amount of time, and I am already thinking about what my next EV will be. My biggest problem is that the Ioniq 6 RWD has spoiled me on both range and fast charging. There are a number of little things I don’t like about the I6, but it is absolutely a road trip beast, and I don’t want to go backwards from that in my next EV! So, in my mind, Hyundai and the other manufacturers have a year and a half to bring out some more 350+ mile range alternatives. 😊

[@ericgregori]

A Model 3, possibly a model Y by then.

[@AlanTov]

@@ericgregori don't give Musk your money.

[@Bzzap83]

Transitioning to the Ironiq guy? So are you already working on your Wicked Bahston Accent??

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Hahaha. No nawt yet. Moving in a couple weeks

[@KarmenD-ce5re]

VW needs to STOP! with that dated gloss black nonsense !

[@ManfredvonHolstein]

Is a heatpump finally standard??

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nope. Not in the US

[@HughTFYT]

Or in Europe.. £1,050!!

[@pakhyeoncheol]

The UI looks surprisingly bad compared to the ioniq. I'm so used to other brands like Honda looking more clean and futuristic that it's weird to realize how nice the Ioniq UI actually was

[@AlanTov]

The KZbinr obsession with the 2 window switches is mad. They are actually useful to stop accidental lowering of the rear windows, which happens a lot. As to the door sound. Ummm

[@vulpixelful]

The Pro S isn't the top trim, the Pro S Plus is

[@TheIoniqGuy]

There's no mention of a Pro S Plus in the current online configurator

[@vulpixelful]

@@TheIoniqGuy They haven't manufactured them yet, but they are technically in the official lineup. So this car shouldn't really be evaluated as if it's the top trim. Features like an aerial view camera and better sound system come with the Plus.

[@samjam6989]

​@@vulpixelfulthere is no S plus in canada so not sure what you mean? The S has the Harmon kardon sound system and the 360 aerial option eas deleted due to part shortage in the S trim

[@vulpixelful]

@@samjam6989 Oh, he's in Canada. That makes sense. I have the Pro S AWD but I'm in the US. I don't have the Harmon Kardon sound system, so that must not be offered on that trim in the US.

[@samjam6989]

@@vulpixelful yep S trim is top trim in Canada so it has massage seat, ventilated front seat and heared back seat, 3 zone AC, illuminated front and rear badge, optional heat pump, heated front windshield that melts ice like rear.