Part 2: 5 Reasons NOT To Buy or Lease a Hyundai Ioniq 5

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[@scottobrien963]

Title should have been: Why to wait to buy 2025

[@ericluebehusen8764]

The L2 charging issue is significant for me. Even dialing the amps down to 32a, it still overheats and throttles the session. The latest software update makes the charging better -- more dynamic adjustments vs just slicing the rate in half -- but it's just a bandaid.

[@jessicad5232]

Do all of these issues apply to the Kona Electric as well?

[@MikeNguyen]

I like your level of sarcasm with sounds of nature bringing things to a whole new level. :D

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I was afraid I wasn’t being obviously sarcastic enough so glad it worked 😂

[@MikeNguyen]

@@TheIoniqGuy Haha, it did! I still remember the emphasis they put on this "new feature" when the release notes for the update came out.

[@FrancisdeBriey]

I have the ioniq5 2021 with 66000 km today, bought in Belgium in March 2022, I am EXRTREMELY satisfied, yet I agree with some points: 1. Rear windshield 2. Mediocre software but still functional Other: 1. I have never experienced such bad charging with 11kW AC but it's probably due to the fact we charge in Europe at 3x400V and around 12A max, leading to much less internal charger heating. Only few times during hot summer with temperature above 30°C , I got the charger stop charging. My charger is a Wallbox 3x400V & 32A / 22KW capable, limited to a theoretical max of 11kW by the ioniq5, I have reached up to 9.6kW at beginning of charging. 2. Never had the ICCU problem.

[@marcinb3594]

this guy says all these things after tried 1 car so dont take it so seriously ..hehehe

[@EricFDrums]

Btw my Model Y doesn’t have a rear wiper and I haven’t thought about it once til now. Im Surprised that it wasn’t a big deal during winter…

[@hishamg]

I think that’s to do with the the shape of the car. The hatchback style of the Ioniq 5 with its more vertical rear window means it gets more water, muck etc on it. That’s true of most hatchbacks and estates (station wagons) , which is why they usually have rear wipers. I’ve had 2 hatchbacks (a Fiat Punto and a VW Golf) and 2 estates ( a Mazda 6 and a Ford Mondeo) and they all had rear wipers. The more aerodynamic tear drop shape of the MY means that rear wipers aren’t necessary. It’s the same with saloons (sedans) they don’t need rear wipers either. I’m glad that Hyundai have finally realised they made a mistake and fixed it. That doesn’t help people who have the old Ioniq 5. Hyundai should have realised this earlier instead of digging their heels in. No rear wiper is not the end of the world but it is really annoying.

[@lanceareadbhar]

I think the model Y has a rear window closer to a sedan which don't need a rear wiper either. The more vertical the more stuff won't be taken off by the wind. That said, the lack of a rear wiper is overblown as you don't need a rear window to drive as side mirrors are all that is needed. That said, it is annoying to look at, but a rear window that is only clean where the rear wiper reaches isn't pleasant to look at either.

[@volcalstone]

​@@lanceareadbharjust cause it's not needed doesn't mean that's the major preference. Most people out there wants to see what's directly behind them at all times. This was a major oversight by Hyundai in the first place. Did they not test this vechicle out in the real world before finalizing the design? For the 24 they introduced the video mirror yet only made it available on the most expensive trim. They should've done right and made it standard instead for their lack of knowledge from their design team. I guess getting the least amount of Cd mattered more to them than the driving experience that their own buyers will go through. That being said the lack of a rear wiper made me get the EV6 over the Ioniq 5 as much as I love the design of it. The only year of the Ioniq 5 that I was going to get if I were to get one was the 25. I didn't want to wait that long and plus I was underwhelmed by the 5 N lack of features for the US market that I ended up getting the GT instead recently. For $50K after all discounts and rebates you can't go wrong with that car. The 5 N looks nice but it will expensive at $70K before markups. I wanted an opening sunroof and I wasn't going to track it so the GT was perfect. No rear wiper needed so I'm happy about that.

[@onego2024]

I have an 2023 Ioniq 5 and I could honestly careless about the rear wiper. I live in WA where it rains a lot but even with cars I used to have with a wiper, I never used it anyway.

[@ManfredvonHolstein]

When I bought my Ioniq 5 in 2022, I was fully aware that I was buying Hyundai's first mass-market EV and that therefore there would be teething issues. To me, all of your five reasons have only been teething issues that will get solved. The most serious issue you haven't actually even mentioned, and this is the 12V battery issue, which is fundamentally an issue of EMP cars remaining active for hours after parking them and eating up 12V power, or any power for that matter. And this is something the refresh is unlikely to solve. That said it is still better than Sentry Mode on Teslas eating up 10% of the main battery in a day!

[@wesbishop3790]

Well said!

[@bacvain]

Been following you since the beginning and I appreciate your content. Going on 2 years now with my Ioniq5 preferred AWD LR. (Canada) and its coming to and end. I ordered the new 2024 Santa Fe Hybrid arriving in June. Here is what I hated about my car and the reason why I’m trading it in: 1. Suspension: coming from a G80 Sport to this the suspension is one of the worst I’ve ever driven. Roads in Montreal are bad and it’s great for that and potholes. Handles them amazingly. But any wobble on the highway the car feels like it’s about to lose control and neither myself or my wife are too pleased with that feeling. The weight and wobbling are bad. 2. Outside of Quebec the charging is absolute shit. Ontario has bad CCS chargers. Either they work half ass or don’t work at all. Visiting the US it’s even worse. Costs more to charge and almost impossible to find them in proper spots compared to when we travel with our Tesla 3 LR. 3. Missing rear wiper is not something to ignore. It’s put me in situations where I couldn’t see shit behind me at night in a storm cause then entire rear window is covered. Had to pull over and clean it multiple times. Unacceptable. 4. Finally the range. I knew what the range was when I got it. I saved 13k per year on avoiding fuelling. But I can’t get more then 280-300km in winter and 100km exactly more in summer and I’m just absolutely fed up and annoyed with always having to plan around plugging to get places. We still have our Model 3 AWD LR which is amazing for that purpose and trips. So we keeping one EV and getting a hybrid SUV with 800-950km of range per fill up. It was fun and awesome to learn about EVs but my time has ended for my daily.

[@garyclark6747]

My five: 1. When pulling out from a parked position the front sensors warn you about stuff ahead when you are going in reverse and visa versa. 2. The front seat belt is flush against the plastic and hard to retrieve. There is an indent a few inches below my reach so for those vertically challenged this may not be an issue. 3. The profile takes forever to load and meanwhile I’m getting the seat setting of the previous driver. 4. The air noise from the vision roof seams at the front and rear is too much. 5. None of the cameras can be recorded which is such a waist and liability. I’m not sure if any of these will be fixed in the future but if charge speeds are diminished in the slightest with the J3400 that will be the deal breaker. 💯

[@Yanquetino]

Yes, the 2025 rear window wiper will be a welcome addition, but my 2024 digital rear view mirror completely solved that irritation. I DO think a software update is needed, even if it doesn't affect the drivetrain. I never had problems with 48A 11kW charging, but nonetheless lowered my charging station's output to 40A 9.4kW so that it doesn't exceed my solar and Powerwall output in the day. We'll see if my ICCU holds up. NACS? Hopefully an adapter will solve it. Unlike you, I would encourage others to buy a 2024 model: it's a great car!

[@lanceareadbhar]

I agree with you that a NACs adapter will not be an issue for most people since it is pretty small looking at the one Ford is using for their customers. I assume Hyundai will cover the costs of them if you bought or leased a new one, but there will probably be a delay in orders. Supposedly the Ford one is rated for 1000 Volts and 500 Amps so the only question will be how quickly Tesla sets up the older superchargers to work with the 800 V architecture as that was the biggest reason for the delay in the switch to NACs and having to wait until Q1 2025.

[@anthonybugge5220]

Ceramic Coat your window and it will always remain clean.

[@lanceareadbhar]

Personally, my biggest issues with the Ioniq 5 are the OTA software updates being too infrequent, the updates not including what people have been asking for, and the inability for the OTA updates to update ceratin features requiring you to go to a dealership for them to essentially install the update themselves instead of having it be updated via OTA. I understand that certain recalls require the technician to do things the owners can't do, but having the car upload and download a files while ensuing that nobody else can upload and download files doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated now.

[@davelavigne2133]

Just leased a 2024 limited awd for $591 for 24 months with 0 down. With 24k miles. To say it’s cheap would be an understatement.

[@harisikhan92]

what city was that

[@davelavigne2133]

@@harisikhan92 Colorado, Boulder. Using the Costco purchase program. And our tax rate is 9%

[@blazenplays]

There’s a 0 down $215 per month offer at the local dealer for a limited that expires end of this month. This helping me convince to go for it

[@davelavigne2133]

@@blazenplays it will be $215 a month minus taxes.

[@jason7078]

Name of dealer? ​@@blazenplays

[@michaeldoss2685]

Hi Corbin, I charge often with my 22 kw charger at home. It charges of course to only 11.6 to 11.8 kw. I have never had a problem and I think the differece is that we charge with 3 phase 400 volt.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah that’s why it’s only a North American issue

[@bogmaerke]

Not really 400V, it's 3 phases at 230V 16A. 400V is when you have two phases instead of one phase and neutral. Glad to hear 11 kW destination charging isn't an issue when running 230V.

[@electricprincipal543]

You need to take in account that the 25s are going to be built in a brand new factory with a new work force and many of the suppliers for parts are likely to change to North America for future tax breaks. On my channel, I warned VW folks that they should pick up a German built 22 at a margin price and not wait for the American built cars with some updates. I was right. The 23's had all kinds of problems for the first six months. Also, the price of 25 Ioniq 5s will not be discounted for a while. I own a 23 Ioniq and there is a reason this car is car of the year or top rated by many reviewers. I have had zero issues. You will never get an Ioniq 5 cheaper than right now. I do not want to pay $350.00 more per month for a rear windshield wiper.

[@jctoyou]

The ioniq guy!!! 5 reasons not to buy!!! You’re cutting your own throat crazy!! Every car model should be dumped from every manufacturer while we all wait for the 2025 models !!! Completely dumb

[@scottobrien963]

Mine over heats at 9.3kw Have set mine to charge at 90% 8kw, no more issues.

[@qrlee6762]

My brother leased Ioniq 5, and he loves it. He is planning to lease Ioniq 6 because it is cheaper than Tesla Model 3. His sister-in-law bought Tesla Model Y. He drove both I-5 and Model Y; he prefers I-5. I think Hyundai should improve their customer service and provide a good charging infrastructure in America.

[@willycook]

Buyer’s remorse for me. March 2023 my 2022 SEL displayed an error message about the battery management system and it would not DC charge. It needed a new VCMS, which took over a week to get. Then it still would not DC charge. It then took weeks for them to figure out they had not plugged in an important wire, which finally fixed the charging. March 2024 (yesterday) similar error message displayed and car would not charge. In the cold rain at night 66 miles from home. Tried 5 different chargers in 3 locations, both DC and AC. Charging would start and then immediately stop. Had to check into a hotel near the EA at 11pm because I was stranded. This morning had it towed to a dealership 60 miles from my home… My first brand new car, and I cannot trust it.

[@stephenmiller6690]

I sold my EV 6 last July when all the ICCU crap started and I had multiple failures to AC charge. Bought a Tesla Model Y and have never looked back. I feel like I made the right choice now that it's apparent they have not actually fixed anything.

[@thedaeron3877]

I just bought the 2024 ioniq 5, i was waiting for the new 2025 but i got a good deal and the things that were missing wasn't that much of a deal for me (wiper, new processor, design refinement or the new tesla charging port) So i got a pretty low interest, winter tire and reduction of the price, giving me more money for my car and all the goverment rebate ...i couldn't pass on it and wait for the 2025.

[@FéargalO]

Will the 2025 refresh model be compatible with Tesla chargers? Although the charging location on the Ioniq might be an issue.

[@snicketysnickets]

Just got this car a few weeks ago and I'm so far loving it! I've never driven an electric car before, and the thrill of driving so fast and effortlessly is a dream. It's also a sexy beast and I sometimes just look outside to ogle at it lol.

[@streetpunkstar]

Have you seen VW ID4s software? Garbage. But it has a rear windshield wiper. 🤣

[@tzwc3571]

I have a limited: no rear wiper dumb! Sound system is awful. Needs more button for simple functions . Nav is dumb. Need just a battery pre condition button. Need 300+ range in awd model. 4 a EV at 60k

[@mra4107]

Thanks for the video! The 2025 is looking very interesting indeed. I have some questions if you don't mind: 1. Do you know if it will have V2H through the NACS plug/port? 2. Do you know if they have increased the towing capacity for 2025? 3. Has the 12v battery discharging issue been solved? Thanks!

[@simeonellinger2064]

I think it's too soon to know These cars aren't on the road yet. Time will tell. The nacs port v2h/v2l is a very good question though.

[@davidsabine1536]

Can't see through the THICK DROPLETS OF WATER....😮 What on Earth would you do if you drove a sedan? That just turned you a thumbs down come on really?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Sedans self clear at speed. There's no separation from the surface of the car like in a hatchback which is why the majority of them have a rear wiper and why Hyundai is backtracking and adding one to the 2025 Ioniq 5. They don't self clear. Thanks for the thumbs down anyway.

[@randyrice1429]

I have the high range 2023 model SE. Could NOT be happier. Have never missed rear wiper. Have never had an overheating problem. Just so happy with the car. Not even tempted to trade for a 2025. Oh. I DO miss being able to open the hatch from inside the car. THAT is ridiculous. But not enough to make me trade in. BTW, could you do a vid about trade-in value of Ioniq 5? My cousin says there is absolutely no value for used EVs. Is that true?

[@wesbishop3790]

My 2023 SEL has a Hatch release button to the left of the steering wheel. Did they omit that on the SE?

[@HNRichard]

Most of it is true, all second hand EVs drop in value nowadays. From your average Bolt and Leafs up to EQS, Model S, etc. I think it's because the hype has died down for now to own an EV.

[@ccpeck9799]

Great information about the vehicle....concise and well presented. Keep it going!

[@FazliHalim]

Saw one used in my country, love the design. Should i get it 🥲

[@creosl]

Ioniq 5 has low load limit. My hyundai kona had failures with engine, battery, gearbox, ac unit, paint, interiorparts etc.

[@juliandclarke]

Can't say I agree with your items - not an issue for me in nearly 3 years. 3 phase 11kW charging isn't really on offer in UK in many homes. I'm happy with the software and not come across the stop on the road

[@josemanuel2244]

I think today EVs are expensive and disposable vehicles. Whats your opinion ?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

There are plenty of EVs that are now cheaper than the average price of any gas car transaction and there is plenty of evidence that battery packs can last hundreds of thousands of miles.

[@mariosashiotis7473]

Says the …ioniq guy🤦‍♀️

[@justinkohl3818]

So basically wait until then 2025.

[@jamiegolden7093]

2023 Ioniq 6. I get consistent 12kw charging w/ my 50A L2 charger. No issues.

[@stevenlee7195]

Not so true about the new iccu unit on the refreshed model , as the new ev9 is still having this issue !

[@junehanzawa5165]

Just having to go through a dealer is reason enough for me.

[@adameigner9641]

Well...we purchased our 2024 SEL in January so...good thing we like it a lot even with the drawbacks you mention. We definitely notice the lack of the rear wiper here in New Mexico during the snowy season when the rear window is constantly in need of cleaning with the squirt bottle and squeegee we now carry in the trunk. Sounds like the re-fresh would have been awesome to hold out for but we needed a new ride now as our teenager has been driving our Subaru and often leaving us stranded...maybe when he goes off to college we'll have to get a 2025 or later Ionic as well. One thing I've never heard anyone complain about that we have noticed is the lack of good side projection of the headlights. The cut off to the side is extreme so that when coming home in the dark and making a sharp turn onto our rural unlit side streets it's really hard to judge where to place the Ionic and we often misjudge as the lights don't light 90 degree side streets until we are well into the turn. Never had this problem with any other car before. Other than that, I'd say we are overall very happy with the car's performance, ride, quietness, traction in the snow, charging speed and comfort. Appreciate all the good advice and info from your site (other than making us think we maybe made our move too soon ;) Best regards--A

[@jeffc412]

I think I read a commentator from Consumer Report who said the same thing - poor headlight design resulting in poor visibility issues.

[@iRapplexD]

all these will be addressed mostly in new upcoming models

[@JohnSmith-uz3dt]

It's why I never buy an electric vehicle. I lease them.

[@lanceareadbhar]

Haha. Leases are more expensive long term, but getting a new car every number of years with the latest features and not worrying about being out of warranty can be worth the extra cost. This obviously assumes you don't travel more than the miles in your lease as that's when the costs can become outrageous quickly.

[@walterwareiii3164]

I road trip all the time so buying is the only way I go. Also some equity is better than no equity. I drive my cars til the doors fall off.

[@Snerdles]

Indeed. Own nothing, be happy!

[@myaccount__7269]

@@lanceareadbharnot really. Depends on lease deals. I leased a NEW Ioniq 2019 EV for $150/month and $0 down. While this deal was great there are great lease deals to be had. Hell you can lease a model Y from Tesla for $4500 down and $300 a month. Buying a used car and having one or 2 out of warranty $3k repairs…plus tires ($1200) and other repairs and leasing is cheaper.

[@peterfessier9780]

This seems like good advise in regards to the loss of value of an EV. I've never leased before as I usually keep my cars for a fairly long time, but it's getting tempting now. I'd have to let go of my need to own my cars though.

[@hubegger1969]

5 N hast a rear super..

[@neilshovlin9888]

Got a 200 amp Circuit Board... Questions: we bought a 2024 Ionia 5 SEL RWD Long Range, driven about 30 miles a day... Should we get a charger that does 40 or 48 amps? Which brand name would you recommend? Should we do a plug or hardwire install? Thank you... Safety Fast!

[@andykillsu]

OR maybe it’s because to replace the battery it costs more than the car was BRAND NEW… How the fuck does that make any sense

[@n4th4n79]

Apologies but I’ve had my ioniq 5 nearly 3 years and not experienced any of these problems - it’s been pretty much perfect and easily my best car ever. I get about 11.6kw charging at home withthout any issues (22kw supply) I would defo buy another and am seriously considering an Ioniq 5N😊

[@prakashholla7331]

Search for a video of a Canadian buyer of an Ioniq asked to pay c$ 61000 for a new battery without even inspecting the existing one year old battery. After his car brushed some debris on the road leaving a scratch on the plate guarding the battery ( not the battery itself)

[@stevegoldberg327]

Are these things true with the 2024 IONIQ 6 as well? Or just the 5? And would you suggest wait for the 2025 version of the 6 as well? As I'm planning on leasing, and the lease deals are quite low right now, I'm trying to guess what the cost differential (for leasing) might be.

[@CoobvamLor]

What do you think about this lease I just found? "Lease a 24 Ioniq 5 SEL AWD for $99 per month for 24 months with $2,949 due at lease signing (includes $10,000 EV Lease Bonus and $5,350 COLORADO Tax Credit)." $5400 to try it out for 2 years? Promo ends April 1, 2024 so I have a few days to see if I want to do it!! =D It might carry me through until the R2 comes out in 2 years!

[@TheIoniqGuy]

That's a pretty amazing lease deal. I'd take that

[@alenshah]

Exactly have problem with 48amp charger and they don’t really care to fix it also USB port keeps disconnecting apply car play

[@Malte-Micha]

The dealership pushed for me to buy the 5 but i didn't want it, I seen the Sonata N Line as the better option due to features it has that Ioniq 5 don't. In time i think the Ioniq class will significantly improve and when it does i might but it till then I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[@kurulNan]

I ordered a 2023 Ioniq 5 during COVID and waited 6 months; still no car. Hubby purchased his own 2023 Tesla MYLR, and although it didn't have some of the cool features of the Ioniq 5, it was a cheaper, available and a heck of a lot of fun to drive. So I bought my own 2023 MYLR and have never had so much fun driving a car. Easy to charge at home.

[@devoe4096]

I know this video is 4 months old......Has the latest recall for the ICCU changed anything? I've been reading where people still are having problems. thanks.

[@MrJkenney485]

My 5 reasons: The dealership experience is absolute trash.

[@capitanocorelli1781]

Can you please change your title. It is giving a great car a bad name. Change it to "You Would Have to Be an Idiot Not to Buy and Ioniq 5 - Just don't buy it yet."

[@floridaliving4900]

Buy a used Nissan Ariya awd. Super cheap on the used market and none of the issues listed in this video. Or just lease them with the low monthly payments available

[@Waywardification]

All of these problems are because people just wanna cut down on everything they can, give as little as possible and overcharge for product that they know it's faulty but they keep hush hush.

[@user-Aw4fodan]

Buy Hyundai Ioniq 5 PE then

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I plan to

[@kennethtarlow]

I have a ' 23 Ioniq 6. The Electrical Co in my area has limited the Level 2 charger to 32 Amps. I charge my care easily overnight, and charge between 40 to 90%. I have never had a problem. I know 40 amps will charge a little faster from 0 to 100%, but who does that? I know there is a 20% difference but who cares. Do yourself a favor, these are manufactured things don't push the limits, take it from an Engineer.

[@proeasylife2005]

I have Ioniq 5 RWD 2022 and i love it. No issues at all and charging from my solar inverter which has 40 am and never had issues. The only thing disappointed me is the high depreciation! After 20 months was surprised that like my car cost only 20k which cost like 54k new

[@young749Au]

How about the very high cost for a replacement battery? There are much better options for an EV than Hyundai.

[@marigthebarber2197]

The tires go bad and you have to replace them on after a few thousand miles

[@jubyloo2]

Fyi only Limited trim has rear AC vents which is crazy. Should be standard on all trims.

[@andreiolaru9962]

It is one of the easiest car to steal… no anti theft system!!!! Not even keyless disable options✖️😵‍💫🤬🤬

[@stopthefomo]

Last week the 12v battery died on our EV6, brought it to Kia for battery replacement, it’s still there - they can’t figure it out so gave us a loaner.

[@coleslow5519]

0:23 That's general condition of the cars in canada during winter. Especially when the temperature warms up right after heavy snow, all the cars look like that because of the dirty slushy snow on the roads. It gets even worse on the sedans, but I never heard anyone complaining about not having a rear wiper. I don't get why people are desperate to have a rear wiper on ioniq5, but I bet you'll hardly use it just like those people with other SUVs.

[@justaguy6216]

Welp we just bought a ioniq 5 because we really needed a car ASAP and my mom wanted a EV. The ioniq 5 seems like a the best overall option. The model Y confused my mom too much with everything being on the screen. We only have single phase at our house so we can only do 7Kw so that should be fine. The rear wiper is annoying buy my mom is ok with it. The software is just fine for us, we came from cars that were much worse in their infotainment, also my mom is kind of a "set it and forget it" kind of person. The ICCU issue is a problem I didn't know about, so thanks for letting me know, I will keep it in mind.

[@alanaquerze9168]

I’ll be moving back to the US from overseas soon, early June probably, and the Ioniq 5 is at the top of my list of vehicles I’m considering. I’ve watched this video and your buying used video and I’m torn between saving a lot of money and buying a used limited trim, or trying to wait until I can buy a limited 2025. If I go used will I just regret it and end up trading it in? Would love other’s advice! Also, just want to say thanks for all of the Ioniq 5 content, really helpful and not annoying to watch like so many other car review bros.

[@aeronYTco]

The IONIQ 5 is still in its infancy. There’s still a lot of room for improvement……even the IONIQ 5 N.

[@uwehensel4217]

Thats why I leased my IO5 1,5years ago ! We’re talking about new technology with ongoing developments and innovations, hence leasing is the solution….

[@a.c713]

Just Lease Sel 24 months AWD for $239 a month 12k miles a Year lol

[@macbec3021]

Good comments. I have a GV 60 and I have the charging problem too. I charge my car at 40 amp now. An other issue with my car is the front camera. With icy rain or wet snow, the front camera disables the anti collision system. I can’t understand thanGenesis/ Hyundai can Can’t fix this issue .

[@MartysRandomStuff]

The 2024 limited I got last month has the digital rear mirror, so the rear window getting dirty is less of an issue. Although I think they went too wide with the camera view displayed on the mirror, I'd rather have the same view as I would see through the back window. A new/different ICCU will be needed when they go to the NACS plug, remember they have to add extra circuitry to change the 2 main power pins between AC or DC charging.

[@SonicCommenter]

They should include the lack of a rear window wiper in that lawsuit. No rear wiper is a safety issue, especially if the car also does not have the digital rear view mirror.

[@Ed-sh8jt]

i was really looking forward to a 2024 but so many issues i think recommend just go with a MY :)(

[@nj-1008]

Who the hell makes a Hatchback without a rear wiper? I'm getting one anyway!

[@ericanderson1753]

I used to think fast AC charging (greater than 32A) was unimportant. But now we have 2 EVs. We use the NeoCharge smart splitter and charge the cars one after the other. Now the faster charging is more important.

[@johnwicks8055]

2025 Hyundai iconic 5 will sort majority of issues he has mentioned

[@naturalwitchery]

I'm glad i saw this!

[@sadersan9860]

even as a guy who doesnt have any money to afford that car anytime soon I found your experience and information in video super helpful

[@danielwyman8176]

I have 1000 miles on my car.is there a way to get my money back? I bought the car in early May

[@TassieEV]

I've got a 2024 Kona EV top spec(called Premium here in Australia) on order. Looking at your Etsy store which of the cupholder enlargers work for the new 2024 Kona? What is the inside diameter as well of the enlarger as I have a 900ml bottle(sorry not sure of ounces conversion off hand) that fits in the door pocket but may be useful to have it in centre console?

[@grahambutler5025]

Anyone who’s been around a couple of years will be stunned by this video. You advocated for the Ioniq 5 (acknowledging the deficits) yet are now telling folk, seemingly, to avoid the car. Telling people to lease only, is a valid position. Saying don’t buy or lease is a mis-step.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I put out a video two weeks ago telling people why I think you should buy it. I’m offering two points of view. It’s not a perfect car, as no product is perfect.

[@edwardkorek9189]

I am on my 2nd Ioniq 5 limited a (2022). The new one is a 2024 limited. The rear window was a problem with the 2022. The 2024 has a camera which is connected to the mirror. The camera is very good, and so far it has been clear.

[@fredbozo8488]

So dude, you're basically telling everyone who bought a 2024 to this point that you so highly touted even a month ago that they just made a big mistake... C'mon.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I’m not insisting that anybody made a mistake. If they did any of their own research then they should already know about these issues and that they could potentially have to deal with them. I’m simply putting them all into one video so potential customers can find this information in a more concise fashion

[@SteveRiggins]

Given all of the Ioniq 5 hype over the years, I waited because there were things like Apple Car Keys that I wanted on my next car. Looks like the stuff I have been waiting for are finally coming in 2025. Maybe they even fixed the ICCU issue?

[@markrichards9792]

Did I miss you talking about dead 12 volt batteries ?

[@volcalstone]

Imagine spending $20K+ more just for a rear wiper. Think about that. Hyundai wins no matter what. I think for new buyers this will be a perfect time to buy it. You're finally getting a complete car or you could save big money for settling on a 75% version of it.

[@matthowe4628]

I got a new 23 sel for 38k. I would not have paid 50k+ so I am fine with the decision to buy now. The upgrades would not make me spend msrp.

[@jeffadams9268]

So, which 5 reasons are more significant? Buy or not buy (lease) ? Better off with Mach-E, Equinox EV?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Despite its deficiencies/issues, I still think it’s a better vehicle than the Mach-E. I haven’t experienced a new Equinox so I can’t speak for it but for the price it looks decent if super fast DC fast charging speeds aren’t your biggest concern

[@TheCredo77]

I have none of these problems in my Ionoiq 5 2024 model

[@dj.mb_one]

you should say 5 reason not to buy old ioniq 5..lmao

[@SteveRiggins]

Did you just drop that the 2025 has a NACS port?

[@folcane]

weird Electric Viking never mentioned these issues

[@DerekDavis213]

Millions of cars over the last 80 years have no rear windshield wiper, and they managed just fine.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah? Not a single one of them ever said you know what would be nice?

[@DerekDavis213]

@@TheIoniqGuy Rear wipers are usually on mini-vans, driven by soccer moms. Real men don't need rear wipers! And how hard is it to carry some bottled water and paper towels in the trunk? Once per day, spend 30 seconds wiping the rear window. Done.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Then why does practically every other SUV on the market have one?

[@DerekDavis213]

@@TheIoniqGuy Is there some reason why SUV drivers cannot see out of the rear window, when *millions* of regular cars don't need rear wipers? A serious question.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Because there is an area of low pressure that doesn’t clear water from it like in any other type of vehicle where you have air that flows over the rear windshield

[@lisamarts5678]

i hate the rear windshield wiper on any car

[@expomm]

Wow, those charging issues are a bummer

[@danielchoi6477]

This blog is hated by Hyundai, this is why you did not get invited for ioniq 5N test drive.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah I suppose being an advocate and generating millions of dollars in revenue for them is a good reason to be hated.

[@ronedwards8239]

I’ll stick with the Volvo C40.

[@svenskenh644]

Is the overheat chargeport a problem in Sweden with 230 volts 3-phase 16 Ampere 11 kw?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

It's a North America issue. No other countries seem to have it.

[@Bruhop60]

Good review

[@EVPHASE]

Would you buy an Ioniq 5 again if you knew all these things, the software, updates, charging... Have you ever driven, charged a Tesla, very different experience

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I would certainly have been more hesitant had I known these issues existed

[@EVPHASE]

@@TheIoniqGuyThat sucks, fix this stuff Hyundai

[@TheIoniqGuy]

I will add that if I were to do it again, I’d be leasing not buying the car. At least if any of these issues happen, it’s not your car

[@sajansingh1512]

Thanks man