DEBATE: Were Arsenal ROBBED in Man City Battle?!?

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True Geordie and the guests on The Kick Off react to Sunday's heated top of the table clash between Man City and Arsenal.
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[@samukelisiwemudau3553]

Simple answer no. Arsenal were not robbed

[@dragonflame99k34]

@@samukelisiwemudau3553it’s so laughable how arsenal fans can spin everything and play victim

[@samukelisiwemudau3553]

@@dragonflame99k34 I know right, Arteta knew his team is losing so he instructed his players to injury Rodri, they got an assist from the refree with the 1 goal then they scored the 2 goal but ended up drawing and now were Arsenal robbed

[@ImJimmyC]

Another Kick Off without the studio? Is it ever coming back? I still love the content and will watch but its hugely affected quality

[@Shifytee123]

Maybe he moved as that was his apartment? Personally not fussed, it still works fine.

[@ImJimmyC]

​@@Shifytee123 I have no idea about it being his apartment or not but I highly doubt it, that was a high quality studio and zoom calls just aren't the same

[@ImJimmyC]

​@@TylerrTalksFootball what is the reason? I watch almost all his content and haven't heard why

[@Shifytee123]

@ImJimmyC different strokes from different folk I guess. Couldn't care less about looking at the studio or not, myself. And yes he did/does live at the studio. You watch all his content, I thought you'd have known😄

[@ImJimmyC]

​@@Shifytee123 It's not about what I see, its about what I hear, personally. Yeah true, must have missed the boxing video where mid knockout he mentions his living arrangements

[@alihajali9218]

To troll Arsenal even more, PGMOL will now change the rule regarding kicking the ball away back to how it was before

[@peterandjunko]

They don’t really need to change the rule. Just not equally enforce it - as has already been proven by this discussion. Like other “new rules” refs will slink away from it as the season moves on. You will not see another second yellow for restart delay this season.

[@alihajali9218]

@@peterandjunko Whether they change it officially or enforce it more leniently, is my point.

[@RsDv5]

It’s not about enforcing it leniently or changing the rule. It’s about consistency, refs like Oliver shouldn’t be allowed to pick and choose which decisions to give or take.

[@alihajali9218]

@@RsDv5 Yea, consistency, like how it was before, no cards, thats what im saying

[@RsDv5]

@@alihajali9218 If you’re going to set precedent in a game and penalise one team you need to do the same to the other. Haaland shouldn’t have been on that pitch. Absolute joke.

[@gloryunitedfantv8682]

I don’t think Jacob or any Arsenal fan has ever admitted that a decision against them has been correct

[@craigshackleton1652]

Kovacic did two x-rated fouls in that game at the Emirates. No red card. I'm not even an Arsenal fan. Just sick of the Saudi's buying our league.

[@Rowan_0161]

The league has had money for the past 100 years. You only hate that there is a new club at the top, All the big teams have done it in the past so to now attack the Saudi's is pathetic

[@E.P_2489]

Yeah bro the damn Saudis are ruining it

[@africancoast]

City aren't owned by Saudi Arabia hahaha

[@augment999]

X-rated? You make it sound like he tried to bum them

[@Secretninja98]

Jacob the most reasonable Arsenal fan I've heard. Flat out, the ref ruined the game for both teams. Nothing more nothing less.

[@JourdanChaney]

You must have not seen the videos before

[@Secretninja98]

@@JourdanChaney I watch pretty regularly and everyone has to back their team. But this game has a lot of potential for fans to take out of context , but Jacob was super dope to listen to tbh. Overall great video from the boys.

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

What did the ref do against Man City? He let a lot of their stuff go without cards. Haaland did allsorts of srupid stuff a normal team gets punished for.

[@Slim-Clips]

It’s the purposeful inconsistencies favouring a certain team with 115 charges 99% of the time that people are noticing.

[@grealish2234]

Ok gooner mentality fan . Now we understand why u lot have 0 league titles in 22 years and ,0 ucls

[@danielnicholson4660]

With all respect that's bullshit. What about the ref pulling it back when grealish would have been through against spurs last year? What about when man city should have been 2-0 up against Liverpool last year but it got ruled out for some bs foul on Alison?

[@drewbishop9090]

you think gabriel’s goal should’ve counted???

[@StrawHatPele]

What a chemistry this team of lads are now. Well done Brian lad

[@reecejones3187]

So contradictory. You guys can’t ask for consistent refereeing and also want them to use common sense. The only way to be consistent is to apply the exact letter of the law every time. Not worrying about ruining a game.

[@benjhaminbancquart6142]

But common sense has to prevail, honestly I wouldn't want players sent off from rivals for this either

[@reecejones3187]

@@benjhaminbancquart6142 I agree but that’s not the conversation. The only way to get consistency which is what everyone constantly complains about, is to have the rules followed to the letter. Because comment sense is subjective and that is what leads to the lack of consistency. I would rather have strict rules which are followed every single time even if that means initially some players being sent off for petulance. The players would wise up

[@marvinmoeller3170]

Common sense is also that the same referees, followe the rules for everybody then, why is City complaining the whole time as a team when only the Captain is allowed, why is it a yellow for Trossard and not for Doku or Silva, why can Haaland throw the ball against Gabriel head ?

[@reecejones3187]

@@marvinmoeller3170 because the refs are awful, nobody is debating that but they’re equally awful to every team. BUT you can’t have common sense involved because each ref has a different perception on what common sense would dictate. The only way to be 100% consistent is to book every player that kicks away the ball, every time a player acts with dissent etc

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

The studio is gone for real huh

[@unknownapproach9410]

The arsenal fan saying we want “blood and thunder” and complaining for months that Joelinton fouled Gabriel and Newcastle “stole a win” is just hilarious!

[@hippopotumaswonder]

I think its completely fair to say we want the intensity/shithousery of the prem back, while also thinking clear and obvious fouls should be called lmao

[@stevieg3161]

@@hippopotumaswonderyou lot are the ones complaining at Haalands shithousery in the same game ffs

[@hippopotumaswonder]

@@stevieg3161 I honestly haven't seen many arsenal fans that care about that tbh, it was more funny than anything and fuels the rivalry

[@RsDv5]

That doesn’t correlate at all. That Newcastle game cost Arsenal points which would’ve seen them pick the title up. That’s the point, it’s the consistency, no other team has had more apologies due to poor refereeing than Arsenal. Such a dense comment

[@TheAbabab77]

Lol Arsenal evidently live rent free in your head with this embarrassing comment 😂

[@United_Wings]

Michael Oliver is Man City's 12 men

[@HT008]

Not even a city fan but it was 2 clear yellows though. Stop crying your players are stupid by kicking balls away and stopping freekicks being taken

[@zavierrobertson5892]

@@HT008and Haaland throwing a ball at Gabriel’s head? Also the second yellow on trossard was bs there was less than a second between when he blew the whistle blew and he kicked the ball

[@HT008]

@@zavierrobertson5892 You think trossard doesnt know what hes doing? lmao he knows exactly what hes playing it. He wouldnt have smacked it otherwise when literally side footing the ball to martanelli was there! Haaland should have been booked for that but its in the midst of the goal and no one even sees it first time off or even complains about it. He should have got a yellow for his barge on saliba early on for sure tho. You get some and you dont thats football. Ben white smacked the ball at mcguinns face the previous week and i bet you were loving that? or what about Odegaard was playing basketball at anfield last year and no arsenal fan was crying about that were they. Just move on, bunch of babies crying about the ref rather your stupid players fault!

[@easynowoldchap04]

You mean the ref that brought walker out of position for arsenals first goal , it's a draw move on to the next game

[@zavierrobertson5892]

@@easynowoldchap04 the ref also had saka out of position for starting the restart so quickly and that along with where they took it was bs I’ll give u that, but it was there cause bernado brought it there and got no card for it, plus the ref didn’t bring him out of position, he just was from it starting too quickly and with no whistle, however taking a free kick with no whistle off a restart like that is fairly common and not on the ref

[@DGoose512]

Joey’s point about end of season schedule isn’t as great as he thinks it is. City have Villa, Brighton, and away at Old Trafford (a fixture they struggle with) in their last 10 games. Villa is better than Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton are level, and rivalry games are tough. Plus City’s December is brutal and supposedly they will have to go through it not at full gallop and without the ability to use the January window. So I don’t really think anyone has a schedule advantage rn tbh

[@richardj2216]

The Arsenal boy reminds me of the saying “never argue with an idiot, he’ll bring you down to his level and beat you on experience”

[@TheAbabab77]

We won't argue with you then champ

[@richardj2216]

Funny

[@Wolf-1211]

@@richardj2216literally what has he said that has made you have that response? He’s been very responsible, stop just being a hater

[@richardj2216]

@@Wolf-1211 ok maybe the poor lad just got a bit too excitable

[@TomDeLaCruz]

Oliver is on Man City’s payroll everyone knows that

[@bleb87]

I'm not really sure. But haaland throwing the ball at gabriels head was ridiculous and should have a red

[@jamie_sg]

A great way to make an unbiased podcast is grouping together four people who hate City

[@jamesomara3361]

"in which he was petulant" Trossard was not kicking the ball away, he looks up and spots Martinelli making a run and he's playing him through. That whole incident was allowed because Oliver delayed his whistle and by the time he blew it, Trossard was getting on with it.

[@terryshiels1419]

Arsenal fans and velcro head were crying like babies that Newcastle were wasting time, but now after that display they've become the worst team in the league for time wasting and shithousery.

[@godlovesyou1995]

The ball was in play for more than any other game this season. Bro's just imagining things 💀

[@adtastic1533]

Wasting time? It was the highest ball in play game this season. That Newcastle game was the lowest. Next time bring some facts to your trolling. It works better than that F grade effort.

[@DamienChandavengerwa-z9l]

​@@Duval-In-The-WallDown to 10 men away from home...at the etihad...against potentially the greatest striker the premier league will ever see and the best manager in prem history...stoke?? Thats all you got?? Absolute waffle

[@helicoptersrkool]

@@Duval-In-The-Wall Yet your team will happily open your legs and get pumped 3-6 times at the Etihad. Arsenal used to do this, rivals loved it. Now rivals cry because City suddenly can't beat Arsenal and hold only just hold on with the last kick of the game. If your team ever go down to 10 men there, you better lead by example and win by attacking City. If you drop deep then you're a hypocrite. Show the world how to beat man city on their ground with 10 men while playing attacking football. 😉

[@miniman2132]

Fun fact, in the second half of Arsenal/City the ball was in play for longer than any other half of football this season.

[@reecejones3187]

Trossard smashed the ball away, wasn’t looking for a pass. why would he do that if he thinks the ball is in play? He would pass it out wide not launch it in the air

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

Or he was expecting the half time whistle given the time of it???

[@reecejones3187]

@@jordan_roadhouse4798 half time whistle is completely different from a foul whistle he’s an experienced player. Why can’t people just admit he was stupid and the ref followed the rules

[@africancoast]

@@jordan_roadhouse4798 That would make him a total idiot lol

[@jack_attack]

@@reecejones3187 his foot is already swinging for the ball when Oliver blows the whistle. At that point it doesn’t even matter whether it’s a pass or clearance, he’s already in the motion of kicking it. Your brain can’t hear a whistle, react to it, and then pull out mid-kick in case a ref is feeling card happy.

[@patricko.harrison255]

Wow. Jacob take a bow mate. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@stevenjohnson7442]

Oh for goodness sakes! Just let it go. The game finished in a draw... game done! Such a bunch of foul mouth presenters.

[@Blueshido72]

You’re not sure if City can “outfight” this Arsenal team? City have outfought a Liverpool team on a completely different level to this Arsenal team for years. Let alone teams like Real Madrid in the CL.

[@corybrown416]

You think you can win forever, you’re going to lose a title at some point, it’s just a fact!

[@TotalllFootball]

​@@corybrown416 not really, it's more of your opinion.... what you hope will happen

[@corybrown416]

@@TotalllFootball No, it’s fact, there’s not a team in the history of English football that has ever continually won a trophy more a less a title year after year. It’s not hope, it’s basic common sense for anyone with an ounce of logic! 😂

[@TotalllFootball]

@@corybrown416 what you hope for is that the next winner will be arsenal... you'll have to wait for another 20 years😂

[@madgamer44x]

City are not that team anymore. Granted, Haaland is scary but no doubt in my mind the centurians destroy this City

[@joshtannis]

Occam's razor = corruption

[@AC_830]

Walker was in line with the other 3 defenders, I don't see you whinning about Gundogan not letting Raya get into position. Nothing wrong with either of them. People whinging about Arsenal players on the corner? What did they do stand their ground, Ederson was weak at coming out.

[@jkdure]

Stand their ground? weak exuse. To Arsenal players actively seeking into the goalkeeper and pressing him down..

[@jordan_roadhouse4798]

​@@jkdure You know it's all on camera right? We can all see how wrong you are. Your delusions are not reality you entitled fans of the disgraceful 115 club are an actual joke.

[@aaronclarke4308]

'start with impartiality' as he sends to chelsea fans lol

[@alejandrofuentes5865]

Dude's mindblowing argument: If you win games you get points. If you get more points than city you win. Oh my god, never thought about that!! Great strategist!

[@iispezza1792]

Why is everyone arguing"my players shouldn't have to obey the rules because it's a big game!". The rules are the rules, and Trossards original challenge was basically a yellow anyway. Also, sky measured the time between the whistle and the kick through a mic seemingly far out, meaning Trossard actually had more time than reported. Also he KNEW it was a foul, so he would've been expecting the whistle anyway. I don't believe for a second he didn't hear the whistle. Those are deafening and he was right next to him

[@mondemdluli9]

Arsenal will win the league by a point, 5 - 2 - -1 That ref has never sent off a City player but has sent off 7 Arsenal players 6 players gave interviews shading Arsenal 115 Charges They're rattled i tell you 😅

[@martinoneill5274]

I've got to say it. This is the most well structured and sensible convo on the City Arsenal 2-2 I've seen online. As an Arsenal fan naturally I'm disappointed to not take 3 points but stepping out of that for a second I'll say we all just want entertaining football matches and show the world the Prem is the best league in the world. 22 players were on the field who want to 'kill' each other and it was a great watch - we were robbed of this by officials, let them fly. 22:46 this is the truth. Well said

[@ralphyz2437]

Laughing at a player’s injury shows Gordie’s lack of character.

[@russellbarclay907]

He was not trying to feed Martinelli, his passing is way better than what he did. He kicked it away pure and simple knowing he was already on a yellow and Rice had already been sent off for the same offence

[@chikeonyeka3334]

The amount of swear words in this video can last me for 10 decades

[@Wolf-1211]

To the people complaining about the studio, I do understand. But, the content is still very good, yes aesthetically is suffers a little bit and if you sit and have your lunch or your breakfast and watch it rather than just listen, I get it. The content is still good though, the conversation is still entertaining and the lads get on well and have a laugh. Remember, the studio might be renovated or sold or whatever. Brian doesn’t have to sit and have a big explanation. If it comes back then cool, if not then fine.

[@stevehowells5788]

sick of this city equalised in the 99th minute rubbish. it was literally 14 seconds after the 7minutes added on so where on earth are you getting the extra minute and a half delay at? if you wanna be professional at this then at least speak facts

[@linimcfc715]

Timber was on his arse for 90 seconds at the beginning of added time

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

@@linimcfc715 Raya took half a minute on every goal kick lol

[@mickbanner]

Raya laying on the floor with gunner defenders taking their turns to slap him on the back might have been the reason

[@stevehowells5788]

@@mickbanner i know, I'm literally saying arsenal fans are claiming the goal happened in the 99th minute and it was 97:14 (14 seconds after the allotted time). i get that city do tend to get favourable decisions at times but complaining about something that is factually incorrect annoys me lol

[@salamandress]

Yeah even as an arsenal fan, I'm only mad at us for conceding st the end. I think the boys lost focus and let them have too much space on the corner. Our fault completely. Not the refs.

[@jamesgallogley1024]

These guys give liverpool no respect anymore.

[@JohnWonder00]

And it’s crazy because Liverpool were acc winning other titles while competing for the league and won the league and Arsenal have won fuck all 😂😂

[@E.P_2489]

​@@JohnWonder00they were city's boyfriends

[@_surreal99]

Pep just can't handle Busses filled with quality Defenders. Ancelotti saw this when he realized you can't play attacking ping pong against City. This ref is being deliberately picked because he has a style of regeering that affects games.

[@mikey4483]

This new rules are killing our games.

[@MRCL-190]

For me, Arsenal only win the league if they do a Liverpool and are too far gone before City click into gear

[@StephenC-k5o]

As an Arsenal fan I agree. City have never lost a title race. They need to not be in one come February.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

That Liverpool dropped points once in 27 games, Arsenal have already dropped points twice in 5 games

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

or a city points deduction

[@lmostayoutuber]

Can't see it happening Arsenal don't seem to have that creative spark to break down teams now that Odegaard is injured

[@hamzaesat4085]

@@Duval-In-The-Wallarsenal dropped it to a bs red card at Brighton where they were cruising, and a lucky last minute equaliser at the etihad. They’ve also played and won at Villa and Spurs AWAY in that time. Whereas Liverpool dropped it to Forest, at home.

[@AFCbirmsy]

This was a really good discussion. It's good see that fans of a number of clubs are in relative agreement. Just a lot of things with the officials that feels needless. But more so, fans were robbed of what lined up to be one of the best half's of football we've seen for a long time.

[@mark-134]

Gonna talk about how Liverpool is above Arsenal with more goals scored and less conceded

[@FatumaMfaki]

Playing Ipswich, Brentford,man u, Bournemouth and forest whom you didn't win them and don't forget you played 11 Vs 11

[@mark-134]

@@FatumaMfaki you mention Man Utd as if you haven’t had a terrible record at old Trafford 😂

[@Dasni12]

@@mark-134 only 1 point above, after playing 5 easy fixtures 🤣

[@helicoptersrkool]

@@mark-134 He also mentioned 4 other teams which you selectively ignored.

[@mark-134]

@@Dasni12 wait you actually think you can beat Liverpool? 😂

[@benlezmh1835]

Arsenal fans thinking this is the first time City have been rattled or talking alot after the game giving interviews are so hilarious. They have such a major high character complex

[@gabperma]

we never see this level of headloss from their players. did the entire starting 11 partake in interviews?

[@timeisontheessence]

Not an arsenal fan but when's the last time you seen Bernardo Silva mock the trophy count of a title contender, haaland telling a manager to be humble, city initiating fights on the touchline, rodri commenting on the mentality of their title rivals, haaland purposely barging at players getting rattled this easily by defenders? All of this should be applicable to liverpool who they had title races with but they were never this intense with them

[@3bladeninja21]

Nobody said anything about the "first time". Waffle

[@apan990]

@@timeisontheessence bro just started watching football yesterday X_X

[@benlezmh1835]

@@3bladeninja21 “Nobody” You obvious live in denial

[@Jay08206]

laughing about one of the best players in his position tearing his acl weeks before he complains about too many games is just so low

[@scatterthewinds3126]

you're a buffoon if you think he was laughing at the player's misfortune instead of the very next phrase - an inference even a toddler would make.

[@milindnilekani2676]

As an Arsenal fan, I hate Arsenal fans who celebrate injuries. But tbf Rodri also tried breaking Odegaard's ankle in a Spain v Norway match in the title run in last year. And City fans were mocking Odegaards injury. So he is not some angel

[@leondavis8267]

He walks with a limp

[@Jay08206]

@@milindnilekani2676 i get theres a few bad apples with every tree my point is tho these guys are on a channel with 400k subs this is their "job" so to speak dont you think you should be abit more professional

[@grandiosa86]

No Hopkins. Arsenal fans is all over the social media crying, not City fans.

[@E.P_2489]

Stop lying

[@grandiosa86]

@@E.P_2489 stop being an ass

[@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051]

This arsenal guy thinks arsenal has a chance to win the league. End of season will be sad for him when City lifts it again.

[@willisassounga1963]

brother we'll all be laughing at city after they get relegated to the 4th divison

[@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051]

@willisassounga1963 it's always the same story bro. You get high this time of season. Have hope that you will win the league. But come May you will say we will win next season. You are moving in circles bro it won't change.

[@official_t5425]

Arsenal have a chance to win the league, ur a fool to think they’ve got 0% chance of winning it

[@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051]

@official_t5425 they always have a chance bro and they always had for the past 20 years. And they will for next how many years I don't know. But this season city will win it.

[@FatumaMfaki]

​@@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051why are you bitter man is it bad to compete and is it only arsenal in the premier league you are first now we are 4th why not talk of villa and Liverpool let us be either we win or not that's our problem

[@BillyJacobs94]

This arsenal lad is a clown

[@brandonedwards9510]

Hi city fan

[@yasr6537]

More of a clown than you???

[@BillyJacobs94]

@@brandonedwards9510 try again, muppet

[@Secretninja98]

Im 7 minutes in and this was such a refreshing POV on the game from the boys. Regardless of peoples opinions, this rivalry is great for the game. I agree its been pretty sterile in the past few years. Its outsider fans (Not City or Arsenal) making a bigger deal about it.

[@D2trippy610]

Yap yap yap Liverpool are winning the league mate ✌🏾

[@Orres10]

15 mins in and you'd think Arsenal won the game 4-0 the way they're carrying on 😂

[@rogercorreia6292]

40 min because of VAR pls bud do me a favour. Just because you say something doesn’t make it true

[@zvonimirdragun7813]

good to see you lads, missing your live studio shows

[@nathanarelisky4545]

That Arsenal supporter is preaching facts...

[@matthewhedge2893]

How can you compare Doku passing the ball back to where the free kick was meant to be taken because the Ref asked him to to Trossard bundling someone over in the air then petulantly punting the ball away

[@oishB]

Don't get the idea that City are physically scared of Arsenal. He compared Rice to Bernardo etc but you could also compare Saka or Trossard to any of Gvardiol, Stones, Akanji, Dias, Rodri, etc both teams are predominantly big sides with a couple of smaller players, Peps city is nothing like Peps Barca in terms of height

[@FlameOfAnor9]

Extra time is the minimum time. Timber was chilling for 2 minutes on the floor. Question, why is Arsenal fans carrying about like they already won the league ?

[@Growly.]

Yup. Trossard was making a pass just at the same time the whistle went. Absolutely no intention to delay time... also Haaland wasn't punished for deliberately throwing hte ball in the back of the head of Gabriel

[@ayaanlatif2296]

Trossard was making a pass?😂😂😂 it’s okay to admit your player was an idiot

[@HiiB3RNI4N]

Standard Arsenal fan he kicked the ball away that’s a booking end of no debate

[@ezper_]

I mean city right now is not at its strongest, the defense needs work since last season tbh. Foden needs to start working again. And gundogan is still missing chances. B. Silva is not that good atm. There is still a lot of missing pieces in man city that are not working well yet imo. And guardiola defo needs to change up histactics against lowblocks

[@DavidRegaL-lw5xz]

Another year of City are weak narrative but come May everyone blames 115 and go to bed..lol

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

the problem with that argument is that City even when they're apparently under performing, they continue to pick up points. When it comes to the crunch they step up a gear and blow everyone away. Fergie was never too concerned about a slow start in the league, what wins it is at the turn of the year when you just keep winning. City have got that about them

[@aiyaanoneed9402]

Arsenal are not at their strongest either

[@samfab9483]

Great insights & football knowledge from all of them.

[@mickbanner]

Not all delaying kick-offs have been equally punished...and i get that. But I'm SO happy refs have clamped down on players delaying restarts/kicking it away. Fans that have paid the ticket price deserve more than 58mins of competitive football per game

[@kino6395]

What should happen if Mo Salah kicks the ball 4 feet away but gets kicked in the process?

[@stevieg3161]

@@kino6395 yellow card Salah red card for the person who kicks him. It’s not hard

[@rogercorreia6292]

You guys flip flop. When Kyle walker not given enough time to get back in position and then claiming that slowing down the taking of a free kick doesn’t make a difference. Which one is it boys? I do think that the rule either needs to be applied all the time or not at all.

[@kevinpinel2133]

Ah Jacob, the football expert who thinks Diogo Dalot is 30 lol

[@Prince-qr1te]

If Trossard fouls Silva, kicks the ball away and gets away with both and City lose the game, you still have all this noise in a different way. Not sure what people expect of the ref. Get over it

[@josuem7398]

Football is a physical game no way that is ever a foul it was a 50/50 ball

[@ayaanlatif2296]

@@josuem7398it was a foul be for real😂😂 that being said he wasn’t yellow carded for the foul he was given the 2nd yellow for being an idiot and kicking the ball

[@JoshAFC]

I expect the referee to remember his job is to manage games and make them a better spectacle not randomly ruin them over minor incidents. Just give a warning a move on. Or even just blow for half time (then or any time in the 2 extra minutes he pulled from nowhere) and don't give yourself a decision to make in the first place. That was a brilliant game of football and the referees as usual made themselves the headlines.

[@brianbates212]

@@JoshAFC No, his job is to enforce the laws of the game. Plain and simple, don't break the rules and you won't have a problem...

[@E.P_2489]

Oh shut up ya muppet

[@oscarwhitehouse9894]

Makes me laugh when people talk about taking the game to city and blah blah like that’s what spurs have been doing for years now 🤣🤣

[@Producerji1]

City is scared and rattled of Arsenal is a willllllllld take lol. City vs Arsenal W13 D4 L3. Willllllld take.

[@PatrickCassidy-km8gh]

and have won 6 of the last 7 PL titles yet they're a bunch of cry babies

[@unknownllama9833]

city havent beaten arsenal in the past 4 games

[@paulchika4121]

​@@PatrickCassidy-km8ghits challenges..teams are scared of City. Arsenal isnt

[@Producerji1]

@unknownllama9833 well maybe Arsenal should be stepping it up. Not losing to City sure isn't winning them anything besides making them and Arsenal fans feel like they did something spectacular. Arsenal arnt beating City very often either. Prior to 2023 Arsenal were on a 12 game losing streak and honestly that goal was a bit lucky. If anyone is rattled it's Arsenals coach saying, he saw what City do when you go head to head. That 2023 beating at the Etihad changed his whole coaching.

[@Producerji1]

@@paulchika4121 how can you say Arsenal isn't scared of City when their coach says he is?

[@andyh366]

Answer is No.

[@raytanner4138]

Which one of the two teams won the league in the "Battle of the bridge"

[@ItsThePickle]

Another Arsenal fan completely rattled by city. *chefs kiss.

[@scatterthewinds3126]

These two teams have turned this fixture into a genuine fight.

[@roberttredgett9815]

City’s record against the traditional top 6 last season was awful though, they won 3 games, drew 6 of them and lost 1 (against Arsenal) they still won the league though so taking points off each other is not essential Also joey mentioned Arsenals final couple of games for this season and last season was similar, they had to play spurs, united, Chelsea, Brighton they beat them all and conceded 2 goals

[@ciaranoconnell4783]

Arsenal's end to this season is far, far easier compared to last season. Last season, they had Spurs, Villa, Utd, City, Brighton, in their last 10 games. This season it's only Liverpool.

[@mikey4483]

I honestly believe, cause Rodri got Injured when city were 1-0 up. Then Arsenal got right back into it and scored 2, That Michael Oliver thought Arsenal have to much advantage here and thought I need to even this up. For me it’s never a second yellow and never a red but Oliver couldn’t wait to get red card out and ruin the game.

[@reeswarren4329]

Did he say City Pool bromance You mad We actually managed to win a league title And a CL and got robbed various times against the scum city We can’t stand them either Sorry that we take the game to the etihad and Won on more than one occasion

[@Airyed]

You got robbed by Arsenal too Odegard handball

[@Growly.]

I love wenger and I think he was better than Sir rednose, but another thing he was not great at was picking keepers... after Seaman Goalkeeping was a weakness we had. Admitting i don't know this and getting someone else to make the decisions for that bit is just smart and professional.

[@CircumcisedUnicorn]

He didn’t win a CL so How is he better than SAF? Make it make sense 🙄

[@leondavis8267]

Jens the German

[@Growly.]

@@leondavis8267 He was ok, but not on the level of Seaman or Ramsdale/raya

[@Growly.]

@@CircumcisedUnicorn wewll when one guy can spend 500 million and another guy can spend 5 and get nearly the same r esults... he's better

[@samkkx]

Like Haaland said to Arteta. Stay humble ehh Arsenal fans, you cannot count City out.

[@reecemcardle1757]

Are people are going to stop spouting arsenal have the best defence when they don't?

[@wayneholness6090]

Who does? Liverpool? You’ve played nobody

[@peptalk7658]

No one needs more validation than Arsenal fans. 'Please say we are the 3rd biggest team in PL, please accept Arteta is the 2nd best manager, We know we have the best Defence in Europe right? RIGHT? OK Real Madrid is good.' And they still have no big boy throphies. Cityzens don't care if you don't accept/respect us. Goobers keep begging for some consolation prize. Small club mentality!

[@StephenC-k5o]

Cityzens rattled so badly by Arsenal. I still think your favourites but my god, it's so funny watching your club right now.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Up until last season City were rattled by Spurs away more than Arsenal lol

[@sammyboy12345]

3rd best if you count the community shields,otherwise, it's Chelsea with major honours. Let's be real.

[@nathanbowles2811]

Trossard should get more blame here. Needless foul (which on it's own could've been yellow) when he is already on a yellow, his team are 2-1 up and City were not in a position to score, stupid decision and possibly cost his team 3 points.

[@akari2378]

I'm an Arsenal fan, and have no sympathy for Trossard. Same way I didn't have any for Rice against Brighton. Both players deserve criticism, but so do the refs for not applying the rule with any consistency.

[@nathanbowles2811]

@@akari2378 I think the rule itself is the issue, as it is a rule with such a big grey area that you could argue for and against every card given using it. I don't get why they made this new rule, as I feel they're just making the refs lives difficult in an area that was never a big problem in the game.

[@akari2378]

@@nathanbowles2811 Massive grey area. Common sense needs to be used. There are some instances when there is a dangerous counter attack on and the player stops the restart, those definitely need to be yellows. Same if it's way past the whistle, or if the player is over aggressive. Save it for special situations, or scrap it completely. You can't ignore it twice and then 20 minutes later give a player a second yellow for it.

[@zakilfaraone]

14:09 Not true! The goal was scored at 97:15 just seconds before the commentator confirmed he received news the game will go onto minimum the 99th minute 🤷‍♂️

[@Llo834]

This is such a sad podcast now

[@mikey4483]

Omg listening to this is so refreshing. After all u here from the main stream is Trossards a silly boy, let his team down. As it happened that exactly what I was shouting at my TV….. he’s not kicking the ball away, he’s trying to play on.

[@garfieldjohnson7034]

the commentator called it early

[@reeseprince8]

Walker having ago at ref about the freekick taken quickly is his fault for not getting back if that was Sunday football that's just poor play

[@akari2378]

Pep's reaction says it all. He screams at Walker, not at the ref.

[@gabrielguerrero3404]

14:50 lol that stat doesn’t take into account how many times Arsenal players went on the ground

[@Shak.1.1]

Exactly 😂An Arsenal player was down for the first 2 mins of extra time so the 2 mins got added on

[@gabrielguerrero3404]

@@Shak.1.1 so it’s still time wasting and it was nowhere near only 2 min that second half

[@akari2378]

The amount of added time was probably about right. The problem is refs don't usually get it right. So often you see 4 minutes injury time, then a player goes down for 1 minute, and the ref blows the whistle at 94:15. If players are deliberately wasting time at the end of the game, add on that exact amount, that's the way to stop it.

[@Growly.]

10% is massive... since points tend to get clost to or even above 100.. that's 10 points lost. that not only can lose you the tiltle, but bring you down to third or fourth

[@jamesarthur4601]

Brian we love you bro but you have to stop taking shady sponsors.

[@fabrizioalzamora1465]

Why does True Geordie's head look like it's not attached to his body?

[@HT008]

The moaning and whining from the Arsenal guy was unbearable - had to stop watching at 25 mins in ffs. Take some responsibility for your players poor decisions. All i hear is cry cry cry

[@grealish2234]

Never will they do though .bad things just happen to them cause god and everyone hates them . Nothing their fault

[@SunsetG20]

I can’t listen to this guy from Arsenal, I swear.

[@alexburrows2835]

Not a footballing brain between them

[@amolbhatia1449]

The Arsenal guy is weirdly full of himself

[@Vss86]

Nah he’s spitting facts

[@MichaelHattem]

For having an opinion? Any fan of any other team who had the same decisions against them in such a big match would be equally upset. And if they say they wouldn’t, they’re lying trolls.

[@amolbhatia1449]

@@MichaelHattem It’s more to do with the egotistical the manner in which he speaks. The bloke talks as if he’s won 5 champions leagues himself. As for the decisions, Arsenal were lucky the ref messed up Walkers positioning and Trossard’s red was a good decision. Fans typically always think they’re hard done by. Their only reason for being upset was the lack of concentration in the dying minutes.

[@ricklee7732]

He's the best thing on this pod

[@antmar6552]

@@amolbhatia1449 people like you who are deaf and blind, how do you type nonsense on the internet? legit question.

[@alarrim29574]

Personally I think toward shoulda been sent off for the foul he committed cuz that’s a yellow imo, but if the ref didn’t agree that’s fine but a yellow for that kicking the ball away nonsense is a joke. Right result wrong reason imo

[@jamesomara3361]

In defense of Walker on the Gabriel goal, what exactly is he supposed to do when the delivery from Saka is that spot on? He's never getting higher up than big Gab is. He's at a disadvantage because he's backpedaling where Gabriel is attacking space. That goal has almost nothing to do with Kyle Walker IMO. I think he can maybe try to block Gab's run with his body but then you're risking giving away a penalty and it's hard for him to block Gab anyway because he's so much weaker (not a dig at him, almost every player on the pitch is weaker than Gabriel).

[@liverpoolfcjghost23]

Lemme guess without watching…. Arsenal fan thinks they were

[@hardingryan42]

Arsenal where the better team on the day, the goal was not hrash walkers fault for no getting back fast enough

[@Itzxkazer]

I find it hard to believe that Trossard didn’t know exactly what he was doing, it was such an obvious foul where he had no designs on the ball, he knew the whistle was about to blow.

[@busetgadapet]

player play by the whistle not by speculating if whistle gonna be blown or not, wtf are you talking, but coming from city fans then I can understand their brain level

[@Growly.]

As an Arsenal supporter it feels kinda funny,weird, wrong to say this, but the chelskij supporter in this video was quite reasonable, smart and dare i say even likeable...

[@kylesmith8383]

Best episode of the season so far lads

[@ricklee7732]

Great show. Great chat.

[@nathanielabbate8747]

Arsenal robbed 🤣

[@reecejones3187]

Refs shouldn’t compound mistakes. He made a mistake not booking Doku, doesn’t then mean he shouldn’t book Trossard. Definite booking he’s been stupid.

[@jacobs3722]

So you're basically saying they can pick and choose

[@reecejones3187]

@@jacobs3722 no I’m saying they shouldn’t make mistakes full stop. But if they do make one, they shouldn’t then try to even it out by making another mistake on purpose. Yes Doku should have been booked and it’s a mistake he wasn’t. Yes Trossard should have been booked and rightly was. Refs are there to apply rules not to try and even the mistakes out

[@reecejones3187]

@@jacobs3722 I’m not sure how you even come to the conclusion that I’m saying they can pick and choose, that’s not even close to what I said

[@jacobs3722]

@@reecejones3187 these mistakes are quite consistent don't u think

[@reecejones3187]

@@jacobs3722 but just to be clear it wasn’t a mistake to send him off. Blatant petulance. If not why else would he just smash the ball away like that? He would pass it if he though the ball was live still not just hoof it away. Again yes Doku should have been booked too but that doesn’t change the fact that the sending off was spot on.