Lets Discuss GORILLA GLUE + Others / Turbo Prop Engine install on PC-6. Video 7.

#pilatus #PC-6 # turbine The MR.Aerodesigns Giant Pilatus PC-6 Turbo Porter build continues! In this 7th episode in the series we wrap up the horizontal stab system with the finishing touches. Float mount install begins. A Huge step for me is accomplished with the installation of the turbo prop mount/front former. This was one of the most stressful things for me to acomplish and it's done! I also talk about all the different glues and adhesives I use, hysol, loctite, carpenter glue, west systems 610 six 10, medium, thin and thick CA (Cyanoacrylate), Gorilla Glue, etc The Magnetic Build tables is working perfect! Thanks for watching!
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Chapters
0:00 Inro portion.
1:10 Finishing rear stab
7:18 Turbo Prop mount install
15:30 Float mount install
17:27 Gorilla glue + other discussion
23:52 The build continues
28:30 Sheeting the rear tail
Scale: 1:5.2
Wing Span: 120" (3047mm)
Length: 83 1/8" (2111mm)
Height: 26 1/8" (664mm)
Chord: 15" (380mm)
Wing area: 1650po2 (1.064m2)
Weigth : 30 lb (13.6Kg)
Engine : 45cc (gas) or equivalent. This one will be powered with a Kingtech K45 G4 Turbo Prop
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scale tail wheel will be available from MR Aerodesign. Check out their website.
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[@thelightersideofrc]

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[@charlesseymour1482]

I was Adhesive Program Manager for Quantum HDD company. Your summary of RC adhesive was spot on! Great vid clip.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Wow, thank you!

[@keithvilleneuve8362]

LOOKING GREAT JOHNATON HOPE TO SEE THIS FLY AT ALA THIS SUMMER

[@thelightersideofrc]

Hey Keith! Thanks for watching! I hope so!

[@IansRCExploits]

Ahh KZbin comments!! Everyone is an expert!! Great job explaining which glue you use for each application, the build is coming along very nicely Jonathon!! And I can't wait to see you paint it, very enjoyable build series👍😄

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thank you Ian. Yes the experts come out of the wood work! Thanks for watching

[@Cowboylifesaver]

Canopy glue works great on air fittings to keep from having air leaks, and also on muffler bolts along with blue lock tite

[@thelightersideofrc]

Great tips! Thanks!

[@gryfandjane]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this Pilatus is better built than the original. ;-)

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA! Thanks Gryf. 😊

[@thelightersideofrc]

Little fun poke at recent events in the world! We acomplish lots of steps in this video on the PC-6! Coming along nicely! Thanks for watching. If you have a min, check out www.thelightersideofrc.com/

[@crunchied8]

where is the magnet table or can you make your own thanks

[@thelightersideofrc]

I made this myself. It’s a magnetic white board from an office supply store.

[@crunchied8]

@@thelightersideofrc ok nice thanks mate

[@frederickhaberlandt6674]

Jon, thanks for taking the time to put together the adhesive discussion ... good info.

[@thelightersideofrc]

You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@robert43g]

When I was making RC models I found CA was great for gluing your finger to other parts and other fingers

[@thelightersideofrc]

😂😂😂😂

[@chksix]

Don't forget gluing Solo Cups to your lips.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Bahahaha 🤣

[@djpking]

The build is coming along nicely, happy to see your doing the full build and painting.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks 😊. Me too! It provides much more satisfaction for the finished product!

[@georgel5308]

Your doing amazing job so far. And great job with videos. Something I learned with poly glue. Rely more on a good joint than the foam. The foam isn’t that strong at all. But poly glue on tight joint is amazing

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks for the compliment and tip George! Thanks fir watching!😎

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Jonathan, Build coming along nicely. I like your meticulous attention to the strength of the aircraft in areas where it is needed. Thanks for the tips on the adhesives you use. You and Katie stay safe.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Many thanks Don! The biggest challenge is trying not to overbuild things that don't need to be. Thanks for watching!

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

Love your videos, learn a lot from the turbine side even though I dont build or fly them, but still learn new things throughout the build , Back in my days I built many wood kits

[@thelightersideofrc]

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@gavsvasili5041]

Your awesome. Keep it up.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks, will do!

[@grant_c]

Great video! I appreciate the comprehensiveness of the build and glue discussion. The glue section was super helpful, as I seem to have trouble deciding what to use, although I have had good luck with gorilla epoxy and zap medium ca. I also find the time stamps super helpful.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Awesome, thank you! As mentioned, experience comes with use. Thanks for watching! Glad the time stamps are helpful. They take a bit of time to add but if there is a benefit for you guys it's worth it.

[@robert43g]

Also meant to say another great video

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks 😊

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks 😊

[@wrstew1272]

Jonathan, worked with epoxy for a dozen years in a wooden boat facility, talking to the chemist when facts were needed, so I know a little bit about the pros as well as the cons of this “glue “. I wonder if you have done any testing for the pros of the polyurethane glues, I.e. my use for hinges in giant scale RC airframes, a breath in the hole was more than enough to catalyze the glue, my problem was learning how much of it to use! Open hole vs. closed, enough vs. way too much- that I should have done test samples first. Worked, the squeeze out was manageable, but it definitely worked better than epoxy once that I learned the characteristics of the new glue. Your experience? Loving the build! Always wanted to see a turboprop after QQ showed that it was possible, looking forward to seeing this one fly.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Overall i'm definitely a fan of epoxy with different additives or Aero epoxies like Hysol but the poly glues do have advantages in certain applications like glueing hinges in where they will expand and take up the space on the ribs of a robart hinge like you mentioned. Thickened epoxy does well too by you don't get the expansion like Poly's

[@djpking]

I always give you a thumps up on all your vids.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks Colin! Appreciate that!

[@philippebaudon]

Yeah !!! your tail is, now, very strong ( like you say me on the previous video ). OK about the different kind of glu, very interesting. I'm looking for the same " magic screw driver in "C"" everywhere in Europe....impossible to find it lol. HI from France !

[@thelightersideofrc]

Hello Philippe! Thanks for watching! Keep Searching for your very own Bent Screwdriver!😎

[@DEeMONsworld]

T nuts: nip off the points, they aren't needed, or buy weldment T nuts they have no points but have holes for tack welding, which are good for glue adhesion :) love your process, well thought out.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thank you! Appreciate it!

[@flightsystemsrc]

I love the magnet table. It’s so useful. How great was it that you were able to get the geometric angles for that turbine. 👍🏼

[@thelightersideofrc]

Yea I think I will use it permanently now as my bench! I also like that you can sketch on it, info and ideas and just erase it! The angles were provided by the owner, I think they probably came from Martin at MR Aerodesign. Definitely helps getting things aligned and setup!

[@ricardovar100]

Nice.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks 😊. She is starting to look like a plane!

[@ricardovar100]

@@thelightersideofrc It's already taking shape, excellent

[@rjhuntman8769]

In regards to adhesives, can you go into a little more detail if possible aboit epoxy and micro balloons next time you do it please. I've done some reading about it but looking for better explanation on it. Thanks.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Great suggestion! Will do! I am planning on doing a Adhesive Testing video so it would make sense to cover it in that.

[@MartinVenter371]

Hope you will make a video of this plane flying?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Absolutely 😎

[@brykalaero]

Maybe the camera angle but it appears the propshaft is not on the centre line. I notice you do not have a center line between the outer fuse lines. The center of the propshaft and spinner should be in the the middle of the fuse. The REAR of the motor should be offset to the port side as much as is required to position the spinner, shaft at the centre line. Other wise the front of the fuse will have a curve to the starboard side . This will shape the front of the fuse to the right or starboard side and therefore the fuse sides from front to rear will not be symmetrical but asymmetrical. The aircraft will not fly straight but want to go around corners. Same applies for the down thrust. The shaft should exit the front af the fuse at the correct thrust line position and the rear of the motor should be raised at the firewall to suit.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks for all the explanation! Phew well....I hope it works! 😂

[@rickyretic]

I am a new viewer and would like to know more about your magnetic table. Looks to be a very good idea. Is there a video on it ?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Welcome to the channel! Thanks for checking it out. No specific video's on the mag table but early (maybe the first video) in the PC-6 Series I talk about it. It's simply a magnetic whiteboard. I got 2 at an auction about 10+ years ago. I just took the trim around the outside off and works great!

[@grant_c]

Do you have any brand preferences in glue? Also, what do you use for things that need fast progression, but also strength (such as elevator or wing ribs)? Right now I am using CA, and going back with epoxy, but am not sure if that is the most efficient way to do it.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Hey Grant. Pretty much explain it during glue section. Basically super fast is CA. Not as strong as something like 5 Min Hysol. It really comes down to using and experimenting with each adhesive to find out what it suitable. Basically any epoxy (even the 5 min stuff) really needs to set for 24+ hours to be overly usefull.

[@Mikeylikesit1968]

The spray is better and works great in hair 🤣

[@thelightersideofrc]

Haha! So good!

[@gettnbetter7274]

Mised this. Critical mesurements matter. Thank you

[@thelightersideofrc]

😎

[@robrow]

Another great progress video of this build Jonathan. Good tip for gorilla glue (yellow) that I learned recently...if you need to fill a large volume/void you can mix it with pva/wood glue, expands many times more than usual and sticks really well. Also very important in the turbine area to segregate the hot sections from the cool intake to ensure the engine does not ingest warm air. Also if you look at the Xicoy version it has an external cnc frame to ensure zero longitudinal flex. Not sure how the KT engine achieves it but probably worth looking into. Lucien’s video is probably worth a look here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laa9pYh-aZeUe5o There are also many other useful hints and tips on Lucien’s YT channel from years of Turboprop experience 😁

[@thelightersideofrc]

That's a great tip on the glue! Thanks for sharing that. I have watched Lucien's videos and he is sharing some great information! its very helpful. I have been thinking alot about the Cowl area and it will probably be one of the areas I tackle last so i have some more time to think about what is best... The KT engine lacks the frame but has the front mount area. I do think Xicoy did this right! Best sollution we have for the KT engine is to stiffen the area as much as possible between the front and rear mounting areas.

[@dreddbatfan]

I was wondering if you could do a video about sheeting a wing with balsa sheeting and useing ca to glue the sheeting down.I'm in a wheelchair and I've been building airplanes for over 10 years but I can never use ca to do my sheeting because I'm not quick enough to get the glue then get the sheeting in the proper place before it cures.Thanks for any tips you can give me.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Hey Dan. Next video is coming out tomorrow but the one after that I will be sheeting all the big surfaces on the pc6. I’ll throw in some stuff for you in that one. 😎

[@dreddbatfan]

@@thelightersideofrc Thank-you soooo much,it will help a lot.

[@iamtedg]

Where do you source your aero epoxies ea9462 and e-00NS? Thanks.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Hey Ted. Locally I get it from Action Hobby here in Calgary. I will also sometimes order it from Dreamworks in California if I’m placing an order.

[@iamtedg]

@@thelightersideofrc Thanks. I'll have to try find a place in Edmonton... neither Great Hobbies or Hobby Wholesale have it on their websites....

[@thelightersideofrc]

@@iamtedg Asif said he cant find it in Edmonton. He orders it from thunderbolt RC.

[@iamtedg]

@@thelightersideofrc OK. Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated!

[@dmuscat]

You really should be sanding off the burn marks on the wood, if you want any glue to penetrate the wood fibers, the burn areas need to go.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Thanks Dave. I have been lightly sanding the edges. Not enough to change the shape but just enough to get rid of the burn gloss.

[@thelightersideofrc]

Nice! Good to know! Glad I’m not being excessive with it then! Thanks for chiming in on that!

[@thelightersideofrc]

@@warrenmaker798 Nice! Good to know! Glad I’m not being excessive with it then! Thanks for chiming in on that!

[@leonmeier5562]

Where do you buy your hysol?

[@thelightersideofrc]

Typically locally at @actionhobby here in Calgary but sometimes from Dreamworks if I’m doing an online order.

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

As long as you don't put/use the GG in your hair, dude...If you decide to, call me 1st...24/7...I'm available....

[@thelightersideofrc]

Got it HAHA!😂

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

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[@superskullmaster]

Not for use on human hair and scalp.

[@thelightersideofrc]

HAHA! Exactly!