Thelma Schoonmaker & Scorsese - Film Editing Tips from Goodfellas, Shutter Island, and The Irishman

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Chapters 00:00 The Editing Style of Thelma Schoonmaker 00:51 Roughness & "Bad" Cuts 02:55 Shaping the Concept 04:04 Prioritizing Actor Performance 07:02 "Deadly Pauses" 08:16 Film Editing Tips for Editors

[@harryom3497]

Thanks!💟

[@AngeloLunch]

If you’re a “Scorsese fan” you’re really a “Scorsese/Schoonmaker fan”, she’s so integral to what makes a Scorsese film unique

[@bobbvomm9437]

Scorsese makes shallow meaningless films that are stylistic but lack a style, void of any substance. Scorsese makes the Cohen emptyheads seem like brilliant directors. I like Scorsese's public persona but his movies are mainly acclaimed by pretentious pseudo intellectuals that lack any sense of taste.

[@aero2311]

@@bobbvomm9437 This is probably the worst take of all time.

[@therealjerrykay]

@@aero2311 agreed.

[@StudioBinder]

One of the best duos in cinema!

[@Syfo113]

@@bobbvomm9437 that's bait

[@powerofmovies687]

I think the filmmaker must trust the editor or edit his movie himself,Because the editor can make another movie

[@StudioBinder]

Yup, it's a close collaboration

[@risavsahu4666]

I like the way you put it. Reminds me of Justice League basically being remade by way of different editing

[@ricimercury9490]

Like Coens and their ‘editor’

[@themoreyouknowfools4974]

@@ricimercury9490 Roderick Jaynes

[@vietbach6165]

Like they always say, there are 3 times a movie is told in the production process: one by scripting, 2 by acting and 3 in editing.

[@fotouhi]

It's interesting to know that even a filmmaker like Scorsese sometimes has no better option than going along with a jump cut.

[@StudioBinder]

He doesn't seem to mind it either

[@jagannathan7787]

only the editor knows directors weakness.

[@matherssteven4501]

Hello

[@yu-chinchang711]

I hope there’s another series called “Editing Style” so that I could see how Lee Smith works his way down.

[@StudioBinder]

Stay tuned :)

[@Madderthanjoker]

The eyebrow thing is soo amazing, I never thought about actors moving their eyebrows to convey emotions before as fake. Whenever someone does it now, it's gonna ruin the movie experience for me now LUL.

[@Dayvit78]

I just find it funny that Scorcese's thing is eyebrows.

[@skinnersweet1263]

I guess Thelma & Martin means the eyes itself. Pointing at eyebrows as the cue like blinking or keep it open cuz actors does express their feelings through their eyes Y’know ?

[@ahhhwae5403]

I don't think they mean that literally because even the actors in The Irishman play with their eyebrows a lot 😂

[@davetinoco]

TOTALLY. To me that was literally pure gold.

[@StudioBinder]

😂 no eyebrows!

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

Crazy that Thelma and Marty have been together as long as they have as creative partners! One of the great collaborations in Cinema History.

[@StudioBinder]

Perfect partnership

[@robertobuatti7226]

I love the way she edits, it really pulls you in to the story as well as the characters without trying to be too glossy looking which really suits the gritty nature of some of these films, with the bigger blockbuster she keeps it still very personal and beautiful in the edit, but on a bigger scale.

[@StudioBinder]

Just a great artist ❤

[@robertobuatti7226]

@@StudioBinder Yes definitely.

[@tturnquest1]

Thelma Schoonmaker is a filmmaking goddess when it comes to editing. When it comes to editing, she’s a pro.

[@StudioBinder]

No disagreements here :)

[@tturnquest1]

@@StudioBinder thank you

[@DunkIeosteus]

I have to disagree. Her pacing is good but when it comes to dialogue scenes her editing is a mess. Most of the time the actor talking isn’t even moving his mouth. The Jonah hill intro in wolf of Wall Street, the assassination attempt in Irishman, the famous “how am I funny?” Scene in Goodfellas. Pay attention to the editing between dialogue in those scenes and you’ll see all the editing mistakes. She lacks details

[@j.durgaprasadno1394]

Editing means you can literally manipulate time

[@LibertyValence.]

Yes That's the cinematograph

[@StudioBinder]

Cinematic magic!

[@luckyboypictures]

As a filmmaker, I think it's important to find that one special editor, who knows what you want and can really get in your head. You guys become as one, like Thelma Schoonmaker & Martin Scorsese - Great Video.

[@thesagar2068]

the last sentence is all one needs to hear.. such a beautifully motivating line..

[@StudioBinder]

💖

[@chiefwitz7547]

She play's a crucial role in what makes a Scorsese film special, from the unorthodox cuts to the musical. It is true what she says "An editor must have a strong sense of discipline." Thanks again Studiobinder for this wonderful episode!

[@StudioBinder]

She's the best!

[@filmreviewer117]

Her work is outstanding, still, one of the best editors working today.

[@StudioBinder]

Always a lot to learn from!

[@MrSTVR]

Creative couples are so inspirational - these 2 legends most of all.

[@StudioBinder]

One of the best duos in cinema!

[@owenrumsey3662]

We also need a shout-out for whoever edits these videos :)

[@StudioBinder]

They'll be sure to hear about it :)

[@gal2727]

I’ve heard the editing process is brutal. Good for her for still going.

[@StudioBinder]

brutal but very rewarding :)

[@shAiDawn]

she is precious and you guys are gold thank u for being u, always so enlightening and inspiring

[@StudioBinder]

Happy to help!

[@slimyelow]

Musicians make great film editors. I compose music for film, yet enjoy cutting film to music a lot more.

[@StudioBinder]

The instinct for rhythm would definitely help

[@matherssteven4501]

Hello

[@davetinoco]

What an amazing woman. I hope she teaches a masterclass one day.

[@StudioBinder]

We'll all be waiting

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Thelma Schoonmaker has mastered the concept of knowing when to break the rules. In this case, of editing. There is always so much to be inspired by in a StudioBinder video. Thank you so much, StudioBinder. You keep my thoughts fresh with new ideas and inspiration. Cheers.

[@StudioBinder]

Great to hear! Hope the video helps with your projects

[@klartext2225]

Don't know when I read that Martin Scorsese AND Thelma Schoonmaker worked on the editing of WOODSTOCK. Wikipedia lists 6 names as editors. Was a mountain of material, of course. My magic moment in this documentary comes near the end: SANTANA with "Soul Sacrifice". I think it is one of the clips that define the very PEAK in the art of editing. With split screen technique we see the interactions between the musicians and of the band with their audience often simultaneously, it's rhythm, emotion, joy, togetherness, melody, smiles, dancing, a little madness and very much heart! I do not know for sure, but I would BET that these minutes are the work of Thelma. Can someone please verify this? Greets from Munich - from a great fan!!!

[@DelightLovesMovies]

I don't think you could have found better person to talk about film editing. Great catch StudioBinder.

[@StudioBinder]

We agree!

[@prismonthethehorizon5793]

What a blessing this is! To hear Thelma Schoonmaker talk through editingn on Scorsese's films! WoW, in heaven right now! So inspired!

[@thisisEHAM]

8:00 - “So normally you would have cut that scene faster. But the richness of the acting - it was our job to make sure that we honored that, and that we got the absolute best out of it.” That’s exactly how they have to do these types of things on the stage in theatre. Many film actors do/got their start in theatre, so it’s nice to see some editors recognize that sometimes sustaining a shot is more effective than expediency.

[@matherssteven4501]

Hello

[@TinLeadHammer]

Or, they simply did not have another angle.

[@thisisEHAM]

@@TinLeadHammer Are you joking? We’re talking about a Scorcese film

[@TinLeadHammer]

@@thisisEHAM Movies are make-believe. BTS are make-believe about artistic choices when making make-believe.

[@thisisEHAM]

@@TinLeadHammer takes the cake for the most uninformed artistic opinion I’ve ever heard in my life

[@MrBrown-dh6iu]

Like Scorsese’s The Departed and The Irishman. The editing was nice in the both movies . Hope the editing is good in Killers of the flower moon.

[@StudioBinder]

They both make great films to study editing!

[@djakkdjakkd]

What a great woman! Same story with Sally Menke - the woman behind Tarantino!

[@bwoahviously]

Raging Bull is one of my favourites

[@StudioBinder]

Ours too!

[@olivierberube5439]

When I do jump cuts, they are noticed easily. When they do, it flows very well and are sometimes not noticed at all. Ahh well, I still need practice! And your video, which are really appreciated ;)

[@StudioBinder]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@matherssteven4501]

Hello

[@filmbuff2777]

Scorsese's earlier films, like Mean Streets & Taxi Driver, are brilliant, but when he was able to get Thelma to work on his films from Raging Bull onwards, you can tell the difference, & it is immensely clear. She deserves credit for at least 50% for his films being so good.

[@ananthan.s2787]

The best studiobinder episode ever!!!

[@StudioBinder]

🔥💕

[@jwalaraj8950]

Should do more videos on editing... this is amazing 👏

[@StudioBinder]

That's the plan!

[@StereoChimps]

one of the best editors out there !! best dual !

[@waynecollinab]

That was awesome documentary.

[@StudioBinder]

Thanks for watching!

[@musaalkhadim4146]

She's the one that kept us hooked throughout Scorsese's movies.... What a legend

[@harryom3497]

Thanks you studio binder you make things very easy to learn for filmmaking.

[@StudioBinder]

Happy filming!

[@LebahG4nteng]

If her editing was this good in Scorsese movies, imagine how she would edit a music video or even your wedding video

[@StudioBinder]

Interesting thought, but editing for a narrative film is quite different than editing a music video. Wedding video perhaps more similar

[@tanvirhasankhan4178]

She HAS edited a music video. She edited MICHAEL JACKSON's 'BAD' which was directed by SCORSESE.

[@keithsummers_]

Love it! V-editor here too and she's one of my favs! SO great to hear a little about her here!

[@powerofmovies687]

She is one of the greatest

[@StudioBinder]

We're lucky to see her work 👍

[@emanuelezamboni6782]

The glass thing shocked me

[@StudioBinder]

Definitely jarring

[@amilton1015]

Again amazing lesson.

[@StudioBinder]

Much to learn!

[@rayancedrichaddad1197]

Thelma Schoonmaker "You're Job is to do what's Right for the Movie." The Advice Lesson of the Mentor. The Director and Editor Partnership between Martin Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker is one of the Best and one of the Most Inspiring and Awesome.🎬 🎞 📽🏆🏆🏆

[@StudioBinder]

Agreed!

[@BadKarma714]

Wow she worked on a lot of the great movies

[@StudioBinder]

A legendary filmography 👍

[@alexandreb.g.r4462]

Thelma Schoonmakeris one of the greaterst editor of all time :)

[@StudioBinder]

Definitely!

[@JoHe_SonicBanana]

I think many casual film watcher (or even a more experienced one) doesn't even realize how much the editing can affect the feeling of the film. Many films could be saved by a skillful editor. Also lighting is another very important element of film making which affects us in more subconscious level, just like editing.

[@skinnersweet1263]

The best editor around !!!

[@StudioBinder]

A true master 🔥

[@AustinNewman]

absolute legend!

[@matherssteven4501]

Hello

[@jackieyank817]

Even this video's editing is perfect 😂😂

[@StudioBinder]

We took notes ;)

[@eddeh0772]

She’s an absolute treasure

[@samuelbarber6177]

Goodfellas might just be the best edited film I’ve ever seen. Schoonmaker is to Scorsese what Williams is to Spielberg.

[@wesleyjohndelaney106]

The editor of my life 🤍

[@StudioBinder]

Great person to study editing!

[@rwalia12]

StudioBinder - Thank You.

[@StudioBinder]

Thanks for watching!

[@ricimercury9490]

Editing is KEY

[@StudioBinder]

It's essential 👍

[@bubediscuss]

The cultural footprint this woman has had on the past 50 years of cinema can't be understated!

[@matherssteven4501]

Hi

[@nashidtravels]

What an editor!!!

[@vrezh9801]

this is so special, thanks guys

[@NoFaceGLHF]

Thank you for this!

[@alejandrovargasaguilar6180]

I really find editing intrigue. I don't manage to tell what difference an editor or other. But this is what i like, to learn how to appreciate it. I like editing and i always try to notice it. Here Schoonmaker shows how she makes Scorsese, Scorsese. She is really fantastic and i adore her and Scorsese. They are pure cinema and this is another great video.

[@StudioBinder]

They are a fantastic duo :)

[@Sneewitchen1]

What a wonderful woman! Great video! Thanks

[@jarektempleton2104]

Scorsese in Masterclass: People think it's good editing if you can see it; good editing is something else too: where you don't see it. Thelma Schoonmaker: A lot of people think editing should be invisible, but we never felt that way. We always like to slap the audience in the face. ...?

[@StudioBinder]

Well, he did say "something else too" 😅. Both are good ways, just needs to be done right

[@saberlatifi3030]

Happy to see this one as well! Thanks guys :) God bless you!

[@StudioBinder]

Have a great Monday!

[@shape_shifta]

Wonderful video. Big fan of Martin Scorsese work.

[@StudioBinder]

Glad you liked it! We're all fans here :)

[@akhilm4877]

In india ( Not only in india) the Covid-19 pandemic is still increasing... I think there maybe also dreamers like us near to death, take a 10 sec just for them!❤️

[@StudioBinder]

Our best wishes and prayers for India! We hope the situation gets better soon ❤

[@smashism]

Incredibly inspiring

[@StudioBinder]

Lessons from the master!

[@ahmadomedvisuals8205]

Please Talk about Zack Snyder Style and his VFX Works. it would be great.

[@StudioBinder]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@hallforall37]

Keep it coming...❤️✌️

[@StudioBinder]

Will keep them coming!

[@harshthakur3657]

the eye brow thing i totally agree with , i also hate when someone use too much eyebrows and its too fake

[@StudioBinder]

it does seem a bit mechanical 😅

[@sunsetmotionpictures1418]

Thank you so much it was awesome

[@StudioBinder]

Great to hear!

[@eliyastomas4713]

I think some credit is due to Studiobinders editor, seriously who ever edits these is genius

[@a_13speaks54]

Can you about Alfred Hitchcock, best movies of Kubrick

[@gabrielidusogie9189]

Is it bad that I never noticed all this when I watched the film?

[@StudioBinder]

Not at all, you should be enjoying them

[@crasytony]

StudioBinder rocks

[@StudioBinder]

Thanks!

[@salmonsdontdie4952]

I was shocked to learn she was the editor behind the atrocity "The Snowman". While watching, I thought how awful the editing was, only to realize it was edited by this legend 😳

[@StudioBinder]

😅 She did say an editor's mission is to fulfill the director's vision

[@salmonsdontdie4952]

Lol you're right!

[@KaRim-ir2it]

everything in this channel Amazing

[@haniferahmansyah6254]

my inspiration for being editor

[@puneetmaheshwari]

thankyou for a lesson

[@StudioBinder]

Hope it's useful :)

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome :)

[@StudioBinder]

Spectacular :)

[@sahidshaikh1601]

Do more editing

[@StudioBinder]

That's the plan!

[@prasannabelure9512]

Awesome 🤘👍

[@StudioBinder]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnjohnson3709]

Wow!! Thanks 😊

[@juliaurban7332]

What's the music at the end?

[@Burgalo2001]

Shee is brilliant editor!

[@StudioBinder]

Definitely!

[@Burgalo2001]

@@StudioBinder , if u had someone as Thelma Schoonmaker in your crew, you could be sure that everything would be okay

[@karthickeyan7438]

Song name at 0:52

[@StudioBinder]

Songs are listed in the description!

[@pattatharasan4835]

Welcome master 🙏🙏❤️❤️

[@StudioBinder]

Tuned in for Schoonmaker!

[@pattatharasan4835]

@@StudioBinder 😂

[@mov788]

" I’ve known him since he was in his last year at New York University ... " the rest is history!

[@ElKNO3]

Good video, warnings were wired

[@azismuhammadomar4812]

Legend.

[@filmsbyjim6852]

This is free film school!

[@StudioBinder]

free, remote, and permanent

[@filmsbyjim6852]

@@StudioBinder damn right

[@Thespeedrap]

For sure.

[@jeffmalm9708]

Who added the tires screeching on the sand in the middle of the desert in casino???

[@StudioBinder]

They probably created the sound in studio or recorded it on location

[@pjetrs]

I always wondered why the obvious bad cut in Casino (from real to stunt double in the car explosion) and in the Wolf of Wallstreet in the scene that Jordan Belfort meets Donny at the restaurant (you hear two adlib tracks at one point in the conversation).. Anyone an idea? Or is that just plain and simple bad editing? i would love to know why two all time greats would let that get a pass

[@StudioBinder]

Might be a similar situation to The Irishman, but if there's something specific that's constantly repeated then it 's probably to get a certain reaction

[@aadeshramaswamy3445]

In Casino, i think maybe they wanted to hint that Sam didnt really die. So that's why the cut to the stunt double is so apparent Thats the best reason i can think to cover up that😂

[@henriquejambu]

why is no one talking about how often leo dicaprio shows up

[@bridges874]

I'm an editor, I've got chill listen to this... I'm just sorry I will never reach that level anyway

[@vikasraj2797]

*3 times OSCAR award winning film editor madam Thelma a true tribute from studiobinders*

[@StudioBinder]

Nicely said 👌

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

Scorsese has Schoonmaker Tarantino had Menke

[@sabadragon698]

time to learn an instrument

[@StudioBinder]

It's a good hobby haha

[@harryom3497]

By reading some comments. I thought that many are here just for fun. They are not here for life-changing lessons.

[@StudioBinder]

Nothing wrong with having fun. We make our videos to be entertaining and educating!

[@dusk6634]

She should have won for The Irishman

[@StudioBinder]

To be fair, there was a lot of great competition

[@ryan_Almeida21]

I remember watching The Wolf of Wall Street last month and spotting a lot of wrong cuts, specially related to sounds. Some characters' voices would be cut in the middle while they were talking, giving an unnatural feeling

[@pjetrs]

i commented the same! Always wondered why that was, if it was just sloppy or on purpose

[@StudioBinder]

That is an interesting observation; it's very unlikely repeated mistakes went unnoticed in the editing room

[@doyle8120]

serious question : who actually is the greatest film editor ever lived ?

[@edbelocura7509]

It just might be her

[@doyle8120]

@@edbelocura7509 there is also tom cross (whiplash editor) and the guy who edited interstellar

[@StudioBinder]

Walter Murch could be a candidate

[@SeizureToday]

Apart from her, there’s Murch, Paul Hirsch, Michael Kahn, Sally Menke, George Tomasini, Marcia Lucas. (And these are all Western editors.)

[@arifbalochsangure3383]

Sir plz made in hindi

[@StudioBinder]

Is there a film you'd like covered?