Using & Calibrating The RIDICULOUSLY Cheap BANGGOOD PARALLEL GUIDES - Don't Miss this - Vid#79

[@allanbeasley4565]

Hi Ryan, I hate saying this. I have both the Benchdogs and the Bangood versions. In my opinion the Bangood version is better. I don’t bother with the rods for calibration, just do multiple cuts to dial them in. Also the dowelling jig is fantastic, especially if you buy both parts of it. Poor man’s Domino!😂

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi allan, that's good to know! And yes I can see how it's possible to calibrate without the rods. I've ordered the jog just waiting for it now 😬

[@elioth.g.w2976]

I have just had a play with mine ( came last week ). Calibrated from the 371mm mark ( 0 on side scale ) thin rip was within 0.3mm. took the rods out set scale to 300 but rip was 301.5 ( as best as my eyes could make out. After scratching my head for a while, it turns out the thickness of the stop is just less than 18mm so 371+18mm = 389mm. Rod length from end of plastic cap to inside of metal end = 390.5mm , 1.5mm out ( same size as some m6 SS washers I have ) . The washer went between the back of the stop and the metal cap. The only other way would be to trim the end of the plastic or drill the clearance hole in the plastic by 1.5mm.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Great tip 👍

[@Will_craig]

I doff my hat for you mate, had the exact same issue and couldn't figure out what was going on. I was considering applying my own marks to the scale but your idea of the washers is first class. I think I will glue the washer to the stop so I don't need to add it each time.

[@elioth.g.w2976]

@@Will_craig the washers worked but in the end I set the scale without the rods. then put the rods in , supported both sides with timber and slowly ran the track saw over them.

[@marshallgeller8025]

Hi Ryan, Greetings from across the pond! I want to thank you for your videos on review, assembling and calibration of the parallel guides. Based on those videos, I ordered a set of guides and received them recently. There were no instructions included. I watched your videos several times and was able to get the guides assembled and successfully calibrated. Just need to watch the last video on thin rips and I will be all set! Could not have done it without you mate!

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hello! That's fantastic mate! They are literally my favourite purchase along with the track saw square that does angles. The quality of them is amazing and at that price its a total bargain. I'm really glad the videos are useful to others and are helpful! Need anymore help just give me a shout 👍👍👍 Cheers ryan

[@barryspiers6956]

Mine just arrived, thank you for making these vids in particular the ‘how to build the parallel guides’ ! Really helpful, thank you!

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Apologies for the late reply.... That's amazing!! You'll love them. And no probs at all 👍👍👍

[@supergimp2000]

Thanks for these videos. I just received my set (bought the kit with four segments for $100US). The only thing missing was assembly instructions and your videos were extremely helpful.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Your welcome, enjoy them as they are amazing! Great the vids have helped you 👍👍👍🙂

[@supergimp2000]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I did find that where the T-track bar attaches to the head of the bar with the two large Philips screws was too tight to slide onto my (Makita) rail. It seemed silly to have to loosen the two Philips screw as AND the two set screws and then retighten them so I made a 0.5mm shim (I 3D printed it because I could but lots of ways to do it) so now it slides onto the track firmly but I’m not going to bugger those Philips screws constantly tightening them. I saw a Woodpeckers video where someone complained about the same thing.

[@rodv7779]

Hi Ryan, I get the calibration dialled in by clamping the square down to my workbench, using 20 mm dogholes. This way, your reference point, the square, is fixed and cannot move. Works bang on each and every time! I fought with them, to begin with, and using this method, the calibration is quick and accurate! Cheers mate!

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Thanks for the input mate 👍 👌 😁

[@gmsinding1766]

will these work on the milwaukee track??, I know the saw will work on the makita track

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I am not sure, maybe send them an email?

[@Tilburger72]

Suppose you remove the guide from the track for storage, so you then have to do the calibration again when you use them again? If yes, do you always leave them in? Thanks for your great review

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

We leave them in most the time, but if removed I would double check they are still correct with a little cut.

[@jeremyt1917]

Thanks for the video. When nip up the stopper, is there a grub screw that is digging into the aluminum rail everytime you tighted the stops down ro a measurement setting?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Sorry for the late reply. Yes I think there is, but I think all guides work the same way

[@neilpiper2807]

Hi Ryan, When you first calibrated the system you moved it forward 2/3mm to make up the difference from splinter guard to the rods. Made the cut then had to reduce it by 2/3mm because it was 302mm not 300mm. Are the rods slightly out or where the triangles on the scale something to do with the problem or was it not pushed in to the housing properly.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi apologies, this message youtube blocked for some reason. I'm sure there are triangles to go to. I can't remember off hand without being in the workshop and looking but I think it was Cheers ryan 👍

[@neilpiper2807]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Thanks Ryan. Very informative videos you put out there, thanks

[@Tez73]

I made a set from 9 mm mdf and made 2 steel brackets that fit into groove of track . Used it Making a kitchen . Was ok but took brackets off and just butted up to track and 2 small hand clamps . Miles better . Could not believe how well they work and cost about £5 .

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I support handmade stuff 100% , nice one!! 👍

[@kamilpiotrowski794]

During painting flat mdf piece do You protect somehow the bottom part of the piece from catching paint dust?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi, no. I don't get overspray on the underside with an airless sprayer

[@ianmoore525]

Love your work, during calibration, am wondering what the purpose of having the arrow closest to the track lined up, as it looks like only the rear flip down gadget actually sets the position of the rod? Maybe it’s got something to do with cutting widths narrower that this type setup will allow. Would love to see a video on cutting narrower than this type setup allows.

[@Argyll1000]

They're down to £86 as I speak (10th Jan) but now there's no option to add tariff insurance. I just spent an hour on their chat speaking to two people who obviously learned English from the back of a cornflakes packet. I've heard the Govt are cracking down on foreign imports and the honeymoon period on imports ended 1st Jan 2022 (last week). I'm not going to take the chance. There's a reason they've removed the tariff insurance option for the UK. Edit: I took the chance 🤣. Using an online duty calculator it said I might have to pay a total of £107.78. Which is still a good deal. It added £17.97 VAT but it said on the Banggood site VAT was already included. Not sure if that's Chinese VAT or ours in the UK. But worth the chance at £107.

[@karlwoolf8689]

Mine were delivered in less than a week, which was amazing, I buy a few bits and bobs from China and I have been very happy with 99 percent of what I've bought but these are amazing for £82 delivered I am very impressed. Great videos thanks for the heads up.

[@Naattik]

Man, I love my table saw lol. I have the same Makita TS but nothing can replace the ease and precision of table saw. Its just fast. I just use the TS to break down big sheets.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Ahh thats really cool!! Thanks for the share!!! Ryan

[@nicoessers]

Clear review, love it 👍👍 I just ordered the set for €91,-. Had previously ordered the Wnew brass Handle Miter for my table saw. Top quality for the price and very satisfied. That is why I trust this product in combination with your review.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Amazing I hope you like them!

[@peterdoyle243]

Nice video - thanks - just one question ... why did you have to calibrate it after you'd originally calibrated ??

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi do you mean from my original 1st video or from when I initially calibrated it in this video?

[@peterdoyle243]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop from this video - you calibrated using the square up against the splinter guard on the rail, then when you did your first cut it was 2mm out. Could be I've misunderstood what you were saying.

[@Wolf-yw7en]

That’s confusing me as well. Looks like a pain in the butt this calibration thing.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

It's not really, if you don't want to calibrate it with the rods, just use them like normal, do a cut and see how far they are out. Then simply adjust each guide by adjusting at that joint. Use the measurements on the tracks to work out how much to move them

[@peterdoyle243]

@@Wolf-yw7en I'm happy with calibrating tools - might be a pain in the butt, but it's essential if you want accurate cuts.

[@smkfenton]

Just watched this video and it just cost me another £69 fir a set and my first order from bang good. Great channel, really enjoy watching what you’re doing and massively jealous of your skills and workshop.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Haha its an expensive hobby isn't it 🤣🤣 They are amazing though, love them and an absolute BARGAIN!! Thank you very much 😊 I'm really happy you are enjoying the videos, it means I'm doing something right 🤣 I an fortunate to have the space and I absolutely love it! Thanks for the message and the following too Cheers Ryan 👍

[@runforrestrun1965]

So, since you had to move the rulers in each side individually, those rods were off a different amount each side. Once you adjusted the rulers to have the track cut at the correct parallel size, those rods are always going to be off?, so of little use. It would be advisable to simply fix the rods now too so if you need to recalibrate, simply square up the rods as you did originally then rods should work correctly. Or am i wrong and not following this setup?

[@theftworthrealtor]

I bought that doweling jig a couple of months ago, it’s amazing, very easy and quick to use…

[@freakontr]

Just got a set after watching your video. Came yesterday. Everything looks great except the tongue portions of the main body brackets do not sit flush with the track grooves. The tongues are a little bigger. Is that normal? The tongues on the stops are fine.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi, I had no probs with mine. Is your track a makita?

[@freakontr]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Yes I have a Makita. I wish I can include pictures here It's not Makita track, it's the body brackets (the oddly shape pieces) and the red tracks. The tongue on the flip stops fits in the tracks but the tongues on the body brackets don't. It seems they're a little larger.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

That's mad, is it alot or very small amount?

[@freakontr]

Large enough that it won't sit flushed, and may get knocked out of alignment. I may have to file it down a little bit. I did reached out to them. Will see what they say.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

@@freakontr hopefully they will sort it for you. If you can solve it bt filing it down slightly then that's good!

[@nialstewart8263]

Do you have to do the calibration every time you fit the guides, or just the first time you use them with your rail?

[@karlgabel9822]

Excellent review and guide! Thanks for sharing how to calibrate - easy to understand. My first cuts were very close to perfect. Looking forward to really dialing everything in completely perfect 😊

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Amazing! They are fantastic aren't they!👍

[@danielkaserer7695]

Can you also check the length on an piece Cut with the rods. On my parallel guides from BG it is off by one mm at short cuts with the rods.

[@rebelsean]

Thanks for the video, do you know if they do the rails to fit onto Mafell? cheers

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi Sean I'm sure they would. If not it would simply be the bar that slides into the slot that could be changed which would be cheap and easy to do. Using the link I'd earn a small commission 👍

[@rebelsean]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Hi thanks for your reply, ill give it ago, the Mafell bar is very different to the Festool one.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

These Parallel Guides will allow you to change the bar over so just buy a bar for the mafell and job done 👍👍. That's if the original one doesn't fit👍

[@rebelsean]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop It's worth a go at that price to be fair, thanks again.

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

I buy a lot off bangood and so far it’s been great quality. By the way just come across your channel so cheers from Australia

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi! That's amazing, literally opposite side of the world! Banggood is so much better than people give it credit for (aluminium woodworking tools at least)

[@s70cas7ic0]

Thank you for the video, I guess they improved the parallel guide in the last few months, hooked on wood reviewed them but this seems better. On another note, can you show us your table saw's slide carriage? Is it a homemade one? Looks great.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I can show it, if you follow me on Instagram I'll try and put it in a story in thr next day or 2 👍

[@s70cas7ic0]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I guess you'll be my first Instagram follow then 👍. Thanks men I appreciate it very much.

[@BarryPaffey]

Ok, you've convinced me, I'm going to buy a pair 👍

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

They are spot on,. if you buy via my link 👍 They are probably the best products from veiko/banggood 👍

[@streetkombativesystem4704]

Thanks for these vids mate, just received my guides and your vids were very helpful...I luv em! Sorry Woodpeckers 😬.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Haha you're welcome! They are great arnt they, probably the best buy I've ever made for the money

[@ChristopherClaudioSkierka]

hi there, the banggood 200MM CARPENTERS SQUARE is it dead on 90degrees, or do you have to calibrate it ?, ps i love your work bench can I have it please :)

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi yes it's dead on but does have 2 screws to be able to adjust it 👍

[@ChristopherClaudioSkierka]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop hopefully it arrives without requirement of adjustments, that's when things start going wrong for me

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

It's should be fine, and all adjustable if needs be 👍

[@ChristopherClaudioSkierka]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop on same subject, I wish there was someone whom offered a calibration service, taken my festool plunge saw, it doesn't feel like it cuts at 90 degrees no matter how much I fiddle with the grub screw,

[@ronaldmiller5841]

Got a set though Amazon, needed them asap , good quality, but don't have the triangles on the scale

[@jaimegutierrez6055]

Do they come with a case?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

No case, but really well packaged 👍

[@georgenewlands9760]

Even buying a systainer and some foam to make your own inserts, you’d still be quids in.

[@peterprice8393]

Looked at these and the upgraded versions, cannot get my head around why the charge more for a metric version over imperial a scale is a scale and has to be etched..? Also yours looked to come in a plastic case on the vid ..? But they are sold in cardboard box.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I'm not sure ro be honest, yes I'm sure they are etched so no difference in cost to make I'd imagine. Mine came in a brown cardboard box, but well wrapped and packaged 👍 prices are changing all the time on them so buy them whilst they are cheap. I earn a small amount of commission if you buy via my link 🙏

[@MattTofield]

Thanks for the video, great tip. I’ve just looked on Bang good (I live in France), and they are only showing the version that goes on festool rail. Are they all the same, i.e. just fit in the T slot? I have Mafell guide rails and just wanted some advice before I order. Thanks again, and I’ve just hit the subscribe button.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Bon soir! You are welcome I'm glad its helped. Did you click on the link in my description? That should take you to the correct guides. If you ordered them and they didn't fit (I doubt that would happen) you could simply buy different bars that go in the t slot as the guides would allow that. Feel free to send me a message on my Instagram with pics of the guides your looking at before you buy. ( buying via my link I will get a tiny amount of commission 👍)

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Thanks for the sub too 👍👍

[@ianmoore525]

Hoping you will do another video when u work out the markings to calibrate the upgraded parallel guides, also for thin cuts?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi that is the vid for this Sunday 👍

[@spookymufu]

I just got these and I really like them but the part that slides into the track and attaches to the head part is very loose. there's a bump that aligns with the slot in the track but it's too tall for my track. I had to sand mine down a but so it would make a tight connection, I also think my calibration rods are about 1/8" too long so I have to compensate for that. Other then that it works very well. I'll a little worried about the screws being too soft and the Phillips head will strip out over time

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hello apologies this message was held back by KZbin! They may need a little tweaking as they don't fit every saw brand. I have makita and had no problems. Just buy new screw. Think I bought some off ebay a bag of 20 and hex head too, just a few quid.

[@liamjordan5935]

Ryan am i a dic a ,but wasn't the point to hav a cut at 300mm ???

[@garywright9053]

Looks a great item for the price I have a dewalt track and I’m trying to find out if this would fit could you advise 👍👍

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I don't think it does. But maybe someone else can answer this.

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

Great video! I've just received the dowel jig you alluded to. Well,fantastic quality, and so much easier to use than the Wolfcraft version that's been living in a drawer in my garage.not sure what the other items is, but I'm sure you'll keep us posted.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Amazing stuff! Great quality tools aren't they! The p guides are a work of art too. Couldnt even go for a night out for the price of those guides 👍

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I know, I've already got some of the other tools they sell, and the price/quality balance is spot on. I'm tempted by the p guides - even though I already have the Benchdogs UK version. As you say, it's cheaper than a night out. 👍

[@samrix5793]

Really good video, I'm guessing you prefer to use parallel guides to a square on the rail?

[@paulB996]

Thanks for the video ,helpful.I have been trying to order these but when I click the "pay" button I keep being told to save my address which I have done countless times with no success. I must be missing something but havn't figured out what!.Anyone got any ideas.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

👍 Talk to them in a chat and they will help to and sort it for you. They are quite good like that

[@paulB996]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop Cheers Ryan,thanks for your quick reply I will give it another go later.

[@jimdavis7860]

Great video, just looked and they are now £102.58 for the metric version and still £82.00 for the imperial scale version. Trying to justify to myself that I need some. lol.

[@gwyndafwilliams5269]

They’re available on ‘group buy’ for £75. Have a look

[@iainarthur7713]

I'd look at the benchdogs system as they're about £30 more, and a UK business, plus they wont take weeks to get here :)

[@Argyll1000]

@@gwyndafwilliams5269 Whats group buy?

[@gekkehenkie0001]

About the "buying abroad", I really would like to see a cost breakdown of a similar tool by one of the real brands. I can't fathom why they should be 4x more expensive, or maybe that's just me being ignorant.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I dont understand it tbh, the woodpeckers are just sooo expensive for what are a few pieces of machined ali

[@qaszim2012]

It's not ignorance, more lack of understanding. Take UK tools, screw it take your workshop, (guessing you have a workspace) Build a cabinet, now due to cost of living, tax ect. Calculate the price of a single cabinet! Bet you after you factor in price of ply (£40-£120 depending on type) time put into build (8 hours start to finish including finishing and time between as space is money) Now that cabinet you have just made has gone just cost £120 at the very least not including consumables. Then out of that you now pay, tax, rent, electric, insurance ohh and a wage. Yes bigger companies have a bigger setup so costs are lower but principle is still the same. Should they be cheaper, yeah I wish they were. But I understand why they ain't cheap and it ain't really there fault. Will I buy from banggood, pumping more money out of my local economy into the international economy worse ing the situation. ?? Yeah, as I'm looking for a deal like everyone else and I ain't made of money. But I acknowledge that I'm part of the issue causing the prices to go higher. As the more money that leaves the UK is less money in local businesses pockets.

[@patrickstuart8211]

On a cost theme , I’ve got a system that cost £5 with the use of a single tape measure and 2 pencil marks 🤷‍♂️

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Apologies for the late reply, youtube holds back some messages. Haha this us a good point but you can't beat these for accuracy and repeatability 👍 Plus they are a really cheap buy 👍

[@tenshiqz403]

Hi. Can you cut 16cm pieces with these parellel guides?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Hi yes but you may need to use the thin rip bits with it to do it

[@tenshiqz403]

What is a thin rip bit? Do you have a video on that?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

The guides come with rods to be able to cut thin rips. I have another video on that particular function

[@tenshiqz403]

Thanks. Just watched that vid!

[@tenshiqz403]

Do you have to calibrate every time you used it? Or can you put it away in the foam ones it is calibrated?

[@FredPhillips-g4e]

FOOYE ON YOUEEEEEE

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Huh?

[@antzanton4842]

Where the 👂 plugs 😝 . Great video

[@GedandMichele]

Great video thanks.Shame they don't appear to make the track guide itself as also over priced from elsewhere.

[@jimdavis7860]

I use a Excel HD rail. Cheap on Ebay. I use it with a Dewalt plunge saw, so I had to remove the anti tip flange, which was an easy job with the router attached to my old dewalt rail and the new rail clamped beside it. That may help?

[@SirBenJamin_]

I don't really understand why you calibrated it at first to get it dialed in parallel, then calibrated it manually by hand to get the measurement dialed in. Surely the latter step would have undone the paralellisation you did in the first step, as you basically did it by eye.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

I used the measurement on the t track on moved it exactly 2mm to get it perfect. Nothing wrong with this way 👍

[@SirBenJamin_]

@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop that's kind of my point though. Moving it 2mm by eye is hard to do accurately. Especially if you have to do it twice.

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

It's very easy and accurate, no hardship whatsoever. Don't let that put you off them

[@Nick-bc5cv]

You mention morality and copies. Are you saying these are straightforward counterfeits?

[@pthanos]

Why does noone mention customs costs when advertising banggood stuff?

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

There is an import insurance option as you buy the product, just simply check the box. Its not alot of money usually around £1. I always just pay that to cover myself and not had any problems just yet

[@SirBenJamin_]

Customs duty only applies when it's over £135

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

So I guess just make multiple orders if buying over that price bracket. I've never had import charges before since buying from banggood

[@jasonlepage7915]

👍

[@nollaigbeag]

Yes, morally you do know they are copies. Banggood are putting firms out of business that put the time into research and design. If you were in a market selling knockoff Adidas you could be arrested and have your stock taken but it's OK on KZbin

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Thanks for your feedback :-)

[@stevenewbank]

Morally! should you be using paper, gunpowder and silk, they were invented by China. And what about car parts, do you always go to the dealer?

[@georgelewisray]

: )

[@michelmichel6292]

buying chinese crap is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on - stupid

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Haha, I take it you dont realise that already most of the items you own come from china. Check your clothes labels, shoes, trainers, computer, phone.... the list goes on. In fact most things that are designed in other countries, are made in China to be produced at a lower cost. So please stop kidding your self. By the way these are not crap, you obviously have not seen them or used them. They are actually super high quality and fantastic tools. If I am honest, I think its a bit biased of you to say that anything that comes from China, is Chinese Crap.

[@philhario3640]

Hi, based on the recommendation of this channel I bought the rails, only to find out that they are not compatible with the Festool track. Please could you publicise this for other readers? In order to find other people with this problem, you have to dig through the Banggood reviews with the keyword "Festool". kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5rCnJigf91gmtE

[@pietjepuk9575]

buy a tablesaw and you will not need all that junk 🥱🥱🥱🥱👎👎👎👎

[@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop]

Thanks for the views, please do come again