BATTLEFIELD 2042 - WTF HAPPENED? Development Timeline & The Future of Battlefield

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EA has issued the following response to the information in today's video:
“We are serious about Battlefield. EA is investing significant time and resources into Battlefield 2042 and the long-term success of the franchise. We have a strong new leadership group overseeing Battlefield led by Vince Zampella, Founder of Respawn and Group General Manager, and Byron Beede, General Manager of Battlefield. Rebecka Coutaz, will take over as the General Manager of DICE, and work closely with Christian Grass at Ripple Effect Studios and Marcus Lehto who is building a new studio in the Seattle area focused on Battlefield. Also, Alex Seropian and his team at Industrial Toys continue their work on Battlefield Mobile. We will continue to grow and improve Battlefield 2042 as it is the foundation for the future of this franchise. We have the right leaders in place and we’re investing in the teams and resources to capture Battlefield’s massive potential.”

[@HexHyte]

I hate the fact that they constantly tried to emulate other successful games without realizing we were all there for Battlefield, because we never wanted to play other games.. we want to play Battlefield!

[@moshpit89]

it's kinda hilarious that they gave up their monopoly on being the go to all out warfare shooter to become another fortnite shitshow

[@alexdasliebe5391]

Bad management always misses this. “We need to make a game for Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, and Call of Duty players.” “Why won’t those players just play Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, or Call of Duty? Can’t we make a game for Battlefield players with a free element to get others to check it out?”

[@damirglavas7940]

@@davidnorton5333 Cuz they are not driven to make awesome game for fans and others ..they are just driven by greed and nothing else...and that's what we all get for this Christmas...a bag full of crap and some...get your wallets out cuz' you all gonna need them a lot and often.Me...going back to all good BF 4...nothing wrong with that one.

[@gurjindersingh3843]

They could have both if Firestorm was successful

[@HexHyte]

@@gurjindersingh3843 You know what? For me Firestorm was amazing and by far the best Battle Royale experience still out there. (>>Experience not in general, it was buggy and needed some more love from dice) I still think they should have released for free as standalone. Dice do you want to sell skin and heroes? Then why the f you abandoned a great project such Firestorm where.. you know, skins and heroes make some sense at least, even for a Battlefield game. But no they decided that putting some heroes in a 128pvp players was a perfectly fine idea 🥴🥴🥴 I've completely lost track of what they want from Battlefield since a lot ago... At this point I think they don't have a clue of what a good battlefield should been... All this make me so sad, it's depressing

[@imsomeguyy]

The concept art of the standard class soldiers look absolutely amazing. What a shame to see them replaced by specialists that nobody cares about.

[@febzkk]

Without paid dlc maps they have to figure out monetization so i think specialists with unique gadgets is the best option they have to make money through selling skins like apex/warzone

[@delgrady10]

@@febzkk id rather go back to paid dlc maps to be honest rather than a battlepass. By this stage of bf4s lifespan we already had china rising dlc, 2 months after release.,

[@mejdlocraftci]

@@febzkk or.... ACTUAL SOLDIER CUSTOMISATION something along the lines of what Halo Infinite offers.

[@DancingTeapot]

​@@delgrady10 But would you honestly pay for DLCs for the current game? DLCs mean nothing if rest of the game sucks. The game would die even quicker with paid DLCs. The problem isn't live service but how EA keeps failing to deliver them.

[@imsomeguyy]

@@febzkk I think the different customization for the standard soldier would have been fine. Maybe if they did something like what World War 3 is doing, I’d maybe even get some cosmetics, but it all comes down to how good the game is at that current state. EA has bad timing and shouldn’t be worrying about cosmetics right now.

[@ILostMyKeys]

Utterly mind boggling how the suits told DICE to "chase trends" when the core, classic Battlefield experience is what people want. No other game plays like Battlefield, that's what made it so successful!

[@aricalifornia6272]

It's what happens when you have a bunch of rich suits that know nothing about the product they're trying to sell

[@nikolajpopovs3844]

@@aricalifornia6272 1x,1

[@sirglosko9540]

Its also why you play battlefield, I played battlefield for its large scale action, vehicles, feel, and individuality but they made it like every other game and ruined the title, no other game could you get into a viper and have a battle with a foot soldier or blow up a tank with a repair tool. Almost all games before battlefield 5 where so enjoyable and I would drop 100s of hours for weeks on end not playing anything else but 2042 ive opened 3 times.

[@dudedud238]

@@aricalifornia6272 more like, it's what happened when management doesn't know how to communicate that to the suits.

[@imCurveee]

@@dudedud238 Communication rarely goes both ways at these mega, multi-billion dollar corporations. Usually you do what the suits want or you're out.

[@ish5100]

I love how EA forces most of their studios to use the Frostbite engine, notoriously known as one of the most difficult engines to design games with; while simultaneously treating the only people on the planet with any deep level of understanding of the Frostbite engine like shit, and essentially chasing them away is such a galaxy brain move. I wish I had the IQ of your average EA executive.

[@88kar88]

EA deserves to be called out for it.

[@thirdwordbird3011]

As much as I love salt, Frostbite was created by DICE specifically for Battlefield games. The ONE THING it does extremely well is battlefield. It does environmental destruction and FPS games pretty well. Though losing a majority if not all of the people who helped make the engine has to hurt

[@mcp613]

I think dice should rip out the rendering engine behind frostbite and license that, while remaking the entity system and tools to be more game-agnostic.

[@DrMurdercock]

You don't understand, big game companies are not owned by people who give a shit about the game, or any game, or ever even touvching or LOOKING at a game dude, they just want money. This is why AAA gaming is dead and why I am sick of the same shit every fucking AAA game. STOP PREORDERING FUCKING GAMES

[@DEliciousSTeam]

I'm so worried about Dead Space Remake because of that engine.

[@SoulProxy9001]

This is what happens when managers make the games and not the developers.

[@Deeznutz581]

Well said

[@CplKitfox]

Nah. DICE is just as guilty. They don't care either.

[@denks7849]

@@CplKitfox dice has never been the problem, except maybe bfv, but their vision was great for that game, too. dice now is a shell of what it used to be and that simply comes down to managerial problems. why would any long-time devs stick at dice when they can't develop the games they want to?

[@Pointman11111]

Summarizes about 80% of all gaming companies today

[@AlienBrudda]

I cant believe ea put their developers through this and still forced a release. It would of never been a battlefield game but right now 2042 is embarassing

[@CatalystHD]

Sooo EA is quite literally suffocating this franchise to death. Neat.

[@acidflare8345]

Well they have form in killing companies and franchises

[@el_burro456]

insert *first time* meme, I hope there will be a new team under a new publisher developing alternatives soon

[@MechNominal]

Did we watch the same video? This seems to be a lot of DICE's own making. They couldn't retain talent.

[@PredatorPL-vp2qt]

Imagine my shock...

[@protix9880]

@@MechNominal they couldnt retain talent because EA wanted shitty features that dont fit the franchise to be in, making developers leave in the long process who wanted to innovate the franchise. pretty clear & simple

[@JamesBrown059]

TLDW: The game was created in about a year. The majority of DICE Senior Developers have left. Nobody currently employed at DICE has relevant Frost Bite experience to develop a AAA title. DICE is dead as a studio and cannot be trusted going forward to not only fix BF2042, but also with any major future title.

[@andymancan_]

I am still furious they pulled the plug on BFV before they made an Eastern Front expansion.

[@damianwozniak3946]

And games like BF V and espacially Battlefront 2 had somewhat redeemed themselves due to effort the devs put into them, just so they had to leave these games and help develop a game that would have just needed more time.

[@kevingame3198]

Looks like titanfall/apex should replace battlefield

[@UmiZoomR]

@@damianwozniak3946 There was no problem with BF5 though. Besides the playerbase throwing a tantrum about it.

[@stefanking303]

I agree dice is over

[@theotherjared9824]

The initial trailer is even more interesting in hindsight. Referencing memes and actual player behavior got the world thinking the team had their finger on the pulse and knew what the fans wanted; a team based strategy-shooter with enough player freedom to make some wacky and memorable moments. Turns out only the people that made the trailer had that mindset, and the rest of the studio and EA got amnesia and thought they were making teamcalloverquakego.

[@skylermcbride9428]

No they purposefully did that to trick us into buying call of duty.

[@MLPIceberg]

@@skylermcbride9428 Yeah. I agree. It plays so much like Call of Duty. Kinda why I played Battlefield instead of CoD... but now I guess I won't be touching FPS games ever again. No way in hell the damn Publisher giants will bring back the glory that was once great FPS games.

[@SkelNeldory]

Really? Referencing memes and player behavior is the exact opposite of having "your finger on the pulse" and quite literally illustrated that they have no clue what people like in a battlefield game.

[@Boricactuz]

Call of Apexmon

[@edgarh.8087]

In conclusion if you are expecting Battlefield to return or feel like any of the old games like BF4 or older you are in for disappointment. The studio isn’t the same anymore and the ideas are different. And with the latest changes it basically confirms that.

[@thebigsam]

You are naive if you expected new Battlefield to "feel" like anything before BF1. People that made BF3 were leaving even before BF4 launch and most left before BF1. Dice has staff rotation after every release. People that worked on 2042 clearly cared enough to make it a Battlefield game. They struggled with Frostbite, EA and Covid, but somehow managed to deliver a game with core design of a BF series. I hope Zampella has enough balls to prevent EA from ruining 2042 and series as a whole

[@Jean-yk9eo]

Well, we were expecting smart and logically decisions, instead we went with "Not scoreboard" decision for a shooter game.

[@CrIiiIsis]

@@thebigsam "Managed to deliver a game with core desing of BF game" Are you high?

[@thebigsam]

@@CrIiiIsis no, I am not First Person Shooter - ✅ Multiplayer - ✅ Combined arms - ✅ Sandbox - ✅

[@Kazasia-_-]

@@thebigsam Bruh no shit it’s suppose to have that lmao every FPS is suppose to that’s the core of the game besides that the game is ass and broken and don’t feel like battlefield

[@vinylbuff1515]

The removal of classes is the number one thing that bugs me so much. Its a core part of the balance, identity of the franchise and they removed it. So frustrating

[@MLPIceberg]

I agree, even though as a Tanker, it pissed me off always treading into a dozen or so Assaults wielding rockets. But now you can't tell who the fuck is who. Is that a squirrel? An old lady? Or some walking Adamantine Shield surviving fucking nukes going off on it? Best part? EVERYONE has rockets. I have never feared being a tanker. Ever in Battlefield. No amount of strategy or sticking with your team/really good squad will ever be enough to be effective with vehicles. The whole game is literally: Hope the fuck you don't die- oh wait, you will if you don't adopt (spawn) camping or glitches to get the upper hand. And don't get me started on the ugly colors they used on everything...

[@vinylbuff1515]

@@MLPIceberg In bf4 and bf1 a good tank crew could absolutely wreck but they had to actually work together and be aware of anti-tank classes. Now you just assume every specialist is gonna be on your ass from every angle and freaking hovercrafts pre-patch were stronger then tanks

[@hamonryechinaski180]

Spot on. They're what makes BF feel like Battlefield!

[@eioclementi1355]

Do you think its better now? I think the main problem is the specialist it just changed the concept of pvp battles and idea of roles.

[@gagefisher4785]

So aside from the "working from home" complications and an out of date engine, a lot of 2042's problems can be summed up with the higher ups asking "Well, what is Activision doing?" Good to know they'd rather chase trends instead of going with what's tried and true.

[@wrylnd]

Doesn’t help that their director is an ex Activision exec

[@TrueGamer22887]

Bruh why is working from home in quotations? Do you understand how quotation marks work?

[@LeeEverett1]

You missed the most important part, which is most of their most experienced devs left after BFV

[@BoleDaPole]

They don't care about the old fans, they want to capture the new ones because kids (18 and under) typically spend much more on cosmetics than the average adult. Yall should hear how these developers think about the " fans" when it's just them talking, most absolutely despise the battlefield community.

[@TrueGamer22887]

@Not Real hahaha then he’s braindead.

[@killdozer3464]

RIP Battlefield. We had a great time over the 19 years that you have been my core franchise. Lots of great memories to cherish. You were once special, Different. Quirky at times, yes. But so enjoyable. Having a squad of mates working together as a team to get that W was the most rewarding feeling. I will now move on, I will not look back, as I don't want to dishonor my memories of the good times we had. Love you, Mean it!

[@TheRealLongJonLarry]

Respect

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

cringe

[@tdx341]

😢

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

@Luis Martinez ........ Literally comparing apples to pomegranates...

[@VanLupen]

I wasn’t planning on cringing this hard today but it looks like you got me covered.

[@GerbilNoises]

what everyone should learn from this video. it's not always the best idea to follow the crowd.

[@goingindieEN]

EA used to take new ideas and risks and we got awesome games. But since the Xbox one/ps4 gen, they have gotten complacent and lazy.

[@Rizzo91]

Exactly! Back in the Bad Company 2 days (my first battlefield) people checked the game out because it was DIFFERENT. It offered a new experience from Cod with its team play, vehicles, and destruction. Everything that annoyed me about cod was solved by this game so I switched. As a result BF3 became a hype release further innovating on that existing formula and battlefield became a household name. Not because they did what everyone else did, but because they offered an experience you couldn't get anywhere else.

[@GerbilNoises]

@@goingindieEN agreed

[@lukeuntld072v3]

Dont preorder ever again. (Myself included) Guck ea

[@peekingkitten]

well they sold a lot so...

[@bork750]

This has to be one of the biggest disappointments I've experienced in gaming. I've always loved BF ever since 1942 and it's so depressing to see it become a shell of it's former self.

[@NoMansLand98]

I regret pre-ordering the gold edition, people made the same mistake with BFV I should have listened to that. This game will probably be supported for a year and then abandoned like with BFV.

[@Aaron-or6ov]

It all comes down to us gamers. We have to come together and not buy these games. We have to say make what we want if not sorry no money for you. But that’s easier said because people will buy and they will make Some money. But I will for myself say I won’t buy another battlefield game. So many games are broken now. Cod, vanguard, halo, battlefield. They all have issues. Sad to see how corporate greed can ruin something so joyful and entertaining. EA needs to refund to anyone who bought the game at any period of time

[@Filmmaker809]

Its disgusting mate. And sad.

[@concisecipher1]

What’s sadder is people are still defending this train wreck citing the shitty launches of every other title when the core gameplay of this title has been the worst and battlefield 5 didn’t even feel like a real WW2 game

[@somerandominternetuser5730]

I do like this game, however it really should have been delayed and been reworked. This game wasn't ready to launch

[@Skip.8221]

MW2019’s operators were fine because they were cosmetic only and (mostly) fit the game. BFVs elites were fine(ish) because they were cosmetic only and (again, mostly) fit the game. V’s skin customization was good as well. It certainly could’ve used improvements but it was also cosmetic only. 2042s specialists are appalling at best because they are tied to core gameplay and uprooted a system that the playerbase enjoyed, and they don’t fit the theme at all.

[@blazin220]

Literally just have the classes with these specialist as skins. maybe give them custom gun skins tied to them.

[@Frank-qn7de]

@@blazin220 fuck no, thanks

[@KrakkenXXX]

BFV cosmetics were actually really cool and fit the theme IMO I turned around and loved the game

[@snaakie]

@@KrakkenXXX No they didn't fit at all, like completely not except for the last batch of skins which were top notch. Sadly the damage had already been done by releasing shit skins and operators that people apparently like, ruining the visuals for the rest who enjoy their games more true to the theme. I was ready to spend some money on the game, but why would I when other people drag me out of the theme by wearing shit? Yes Battlefield V was better than 2042, but it was far from portraying WW2 in a authentic (but fun) way.

[@weandyrfc7]

@@snaakie I remember pre ordering BFV and getting the bonus soldier cosmetics on launch (And my shitty red camo for one gun piece by piece over the course of months lol) I believe from memory they were actual uniforms like fallschirmjäger and stuff like that, I was actually pretty impressed. I thought they were going to go down the road of authentic uniforms for the factions, I was sorely disappointed when they just started introducing all this what if shite.

[@DTexUS76]

This is really no surprise. Exactly what happened to Visceral, they were amazing at making single player stories. Dead space 1 & 2 are still some of my favorite story driven horror games. Then dead space 3 came along and EA forced Visceral to include microtransactions and coop campaign. What horror game with multiplayer has been successful, very very few. Then after DS3 didn't exceed expectations, it did well but not EAs stupid high standards well, they forced Visceral to work on a Battlefield game. Well we all know how that went, a studio known for single player experiences forced to do multiplayer. BF Hardline also didn't do well. So EA closed Visceral, and along with it one of my favorite franchises. F*** EA, I'll never forgive them for what they did to visceral.

[@bfvader]

So most of DICE's developers left during Fawzi Mesmar's time as Design Director (BFV, Battlefront II, BF2042) and the main complaint was poor and inconsistent design choices leading to lack of time... I guess maybe putting the guy behind Candy Crush in charge of Battlefield was a bad decision?

[@TheVillainInGlasses]

No no, those things are *totally* comparable! That's a *totally* logical decision. /s

[@christopherjahn8136]

@@TheVillainInGlasses They should have called it Candycrushfield 2042. Perfect desciption of the game.

[@alexdasliebe5391]

“ I’m gonna make you a billion dollar IP … which fruits does this Battlefields have? “ ~Fawzi Mesmar probably

[@BoleDaPole]

The guy was put in charge to make sure they squeeze every penny possible from the fans, not to implement fun and unique game design.

[@BoleDaPole]

And tbh he has done a really good job,, they spent barely anything developing the game, and have already made the money back on pre orders alone. The game is a sales success.

[@k1logr4m51]

It's crazy how class soldier concept art looks cool af and the specialists we ended up with looks dumb as hell.

The specialists are so fucking disgusting holy shit, why the fuck did they choose the special(ed)ists over the chad-looking class soldiers?!

[@thepolishdinosaur9015]

@ they sent in the "special" forces instead of the special forces

[@OrtadragoonX]

It’s such a shame how this wonderful franchise turned out. I sunk uncountable hours into Battlefield One. It’s my second favorite multiplayer shooter of all time; only Halo 3 has fonder memories. I’m so sick of hero shooters. It completely ruins the immersion. When I played Battlefield One, I felt like a terrified American soldier coming under artillery fire in a remnant of France’s old regime (Ballroom Blitz). I felt like a German conscript facing off against the British on the Somme. Hero shooters destroy that immersion.

[@axess374]

Battlefield 1 nailed the atmosphere more than any other game I know of, from visuals to music to sound design. Just the feeling of being a random WWI soldier, prone in a muddy trench, machine gun fire and explosions raining around you, hearing the screams of other soldiers near and gas slowly creeping by.

[@thegeneral1955]

@@axess374 BF1 by far has the best atmosphere of any game.

[@thegeneral1955]

@@axess374 A very close second is a game called hell let loose, it’s a realistic ww2 shooter that reminds me of BF1 somewhat, I really feel like an American shoulder storming on Normandy beach and etc. gunfire everywhere explosions and machine guns. Try it out, definitley my favorite new FPS.

[@metalrockstarizer89]

@@axess374 I gotta say, being a tank hunter in BF1 while having an extremely high K/D ratio is the best WW1 experience ever, imagine having only one life and trying to not get yourself killed. The game makes you feel like your in WW1. Sad now to see what has happened with Battlefield.

[@bluscout1857]

i agree literally fuck hero shooters

[@AetherSummers]

Great video Tom! Interesting story behind the chaotic release. Just a note: the transition sound effect is much louder than your voice, so it might be worth reducing the volume of that in future videos. There are also tonnes of interesting quotes on the screen here so it’d be great if you read them out to save me pausing every few secs (:

[@kirillholt2329]

It's truly heartbreaking that Battlefield will no longer be. It's a shadow of it's former self just like dice are

[@fluffyRabbit01]

Maybe ex-Dice devs will come back and battlefield will have a comeback like COD MW 2019 or Ripple Effects (formerly known as DICE LA) will be developing battlefield games. Maybe I'm too optimistic lol.

[@SanOcelotl]

Hopefully Battlefield will be an example on how not to do things

[@NoMansLand98]

Dice=Bioware. Both just bad disappointing devs.

[@NoMansLand98]

@@fluffyRabbit01 you are definitely too optimistic did you not play BFV they abandoned that game and if this game doesn't get the player count back soon then this will also be abandoned. I will definitely not be pre-ordering the next battlefield. This game will probably be dead when the next modern warfare comes out next year.

[@fluffyRabbit01]

@@NoMansLand98 I think you got me wrong but I am still too optimistic. I wasn't saying bf2042 would have a comeback cuz I just don't see it happening. This game is conceptually flawed. I was thinking that one battlefield game might come out in the future that might be developed by previous dice employees and it'll be fun again.

[@ishitrealbad3039]

this perfectly shows how important it is for IT companies to keep their employees happy, especially when it comes to internal long term projects.....

[@Blackreaper95]

I believe they usually do, but the AAA game industry is a different beast, can't market faulty non functioning software in the IT world and expect to survive, but you can release a half finished video game and profit unfortunately.

[@ltacid]

@@Blackreaper95 Agree. The game industry is the only one that can release software with half of the requirements, full of bugs, charge a full price, and people still pay for it. We as customers need to change!

[@aleksis2757]

@@ltacid You are on point.

[@kphantom]

@@ltacid I didn't pay for bfv or bf2042, did you?

[@fausto412]

@@ltacid i didn't buy it. Duce koat their way.

[@morningstoke]

When you said EA needs to innovate against the competition and not compete with it, you hit the mark spot on. I feel like it's an odd mix of other games, mostly games I hate, tied in with prior Battlefields that I absolutely love. Battlefield has been the leading game franchise in larger scale, more immersive, war. It feels like it's more on par with CoD now.

[@GabrielMartinez-sd8pc]

I am going to miss the games that brought me joy: BF3/BF4 and BF1. I always felt that the developers that made these games weren’t the ones that made BFV and 2042 and I was right. It went from authentic, immersive shooters to tacky shooters like Fortnite. It doesn’t help knowing that EA actually wanted the game to be like Fortnite.

[@metalrockstarizer89]

BFV trailer was the start of the demise. That prosthetic arm right there with that woman, that marked it.

[@Rudbert67]

@@metalrockstarizer89 amen

[@tylermoore6217]

Breaks my heart that I will never be able to continue the feeling I had playing the earlier games with the new direction the development is taking. sitting with my buddies in high-school playing the battlefield 3 beta, one of my best memories.

[@catalystactual6491]

What a great time that was. Running through operation metro for the first time... Long neck bois glitching out lmao

[@joshpodolsky7740]

That's exactly how I feel. I was HOPING 2042 would let me relive my high-school days of staying up late into the night playing bf4 with friends having to wake up early in the morning for school the next day. It's just sad to see.

[@yaboyqmaga1125]

Man, I remember the bf3 beta like it was yesterday. Battlefield 3 and 4 were my all time favorites, such amazing games! Then they lay this garbage on us! Hell no!!!

[@FIVESTRZ]

Operation Metro, I don’t think I played a beta that much EVER.

[@tylermoore6217]

@@FIVESTRZ sware I knew every corner of that damn map lol

[@MagnumSkyWolf]

EA tried this with command & conquer. They wanted it to be more like Starcraft and in the end doing that killed C&C

[@jonnyrawket8158]

Was thinking exactly this, it's sad to see EA not only not learning, but literally killing the franchise that made them in the early 2010s... :/ Time to move to World War III.

[@FireWalkMusic]

We all remember Westwood studios, and now they've managed to kill off DICE as well. It exists now in name only., EA destroys everything it touches. It buys all these great studios with great talented people, and then their toxic management drives all the talent away, and they're left with essentially nothing. What a shame! Glad I was able to refund this game.

[@chinchy111]

They also got battlefront and ran that into the ground

[@Blackreaper95]

@@chinchy111 Yea, then Disney proceeded to run star wars into the ground as well.

[@jonnyrawket8158]

@@chinchy111 DICE LA? I don’t recall that being their fault. I assume you’re talking DICE SE.

[@sliestcarpenter]

I think it’s time for a different company ( not involved in any way with EA or Activision ) to make a multiplayer shooter

[@yashkaliapiano]

DrDisrepect formed a company to develop an online multiplayer fps game. Hopefully they come up with something good because at the top is Doc who is a gamer

[@SkyNinja759]

@@yashkaliapiano Dr.Disrespect is a goon. The man has horrible hot takes. He said Halo won't last 3 months without a BR. Keep your expectations low because I doubt it will be any better than a Chinese CoD mobile rip-off.

[@IItsIgor]

@@SkyNinja759 you said it really blunt but honestly, I don't think that a single person in general will make a game that appeals to most.

[@wibs0n68]

World war 3 is a good competitor of battlefield

[@Hawtload]

At least in APEX you can only pick one specific hero per squad. Where as this game is 128 Sundance Medic Snipers with AA Rockets

[@yorginho]

14:56 man, those concepts of standard soldiers and map evolution feel so legit and familiar with the franchise it almost made me cry, if only EA/DICE would've stick to that idea, nothing of this mess would be happening...

[@bulletghost3452]

Seeing the words "Bad Company 3 Scrapped" hurts my soul, God damn EA. You literally killed a series instead of continuing a genuine good singleplayer storyline with a memorable multiplayer, it really hurts me because bad company 1 was my first battlefield game.

[@bloodxcurse101]

It was my first battlefield game as well. Really sad.

[@gunswinger3110]

Shoutout all the folks that supported Dice cutting out single player because "Battlefield never had good single player anyway so the devs can focus on making the multiplayer super good"

[@4runnercolorado422]

Fuck EA. Bastards

[@bugbuster8598]

@@gunswinger3110 though it's true. The only truly memorable singleplayer experience from Battlefield was Bad Company series. The rest was more of a flashy scripted events showcase. And don't forget no BF game before Bad Company had an actual campaign - only singleplayer mode with bots on multiplayer maps.

[@rhys5958]

The story of the neglected golden goose comes to mind whenever I think about EA, and it’s sad to see so much potential crippled by greed.

[@pj_crazymary4487]

Seeing this video I can not appreciate enough each and every developer who is still working at DICE and the partnered studios. I really don’t wanna imagine how hard it must be to work under such circumstances and conditions. 💜 I loved playing BF4 and BF1 and I so hope that we’ll get a great game with 2042 in the near future.

[@tyger0603]

"Gamers could have waited an year"? We would have waited for as long as they wanted but EA CEO is the one who fucked it up not us the customers.

[@catalystactual6491]

They really wanted it out before the end of year surge of purchases for Black Friday/ Christmas. The execs have to show the numbers on their quarterly reports!

[@bugbuster8598]

Oh yeah, of course they would. Just like all those people sending death threats to CDPR devs for delaying CP2077. Yes, gamers are veeeeryy patient.

[@spectredeadgaming7874]

@@bugbuster8598 Yea the handful of people who send death threats really forced CDPR to release the game when they weren’t ready. People who actually think a small group of man babies who send death threats are forcing these multi million or billion companies to release unfinished products are brain dead morons.

[@SilverTongueJona10]

Regarding EA’s official response…The fact that they keep mentioning the future of Battlefield and never actually just saying they want to restore the franchise to its glory of what players know and love is a HUGE RED FLAG 🚩. They are disillusioned and just absolutely DO NOT have their finger on the pulse of what battlefield is and should be. The developers that left knew this was the case, and if they couldn’t make their own cases to EA…then all is lost and they knew it and couldn’t do anything about it.

[@vaporwave2345]

Kind of similar to purple-haired landwhales on Twitter constantly championing "progress' for the ENTIRETY OF SOCIETY and yet they've NEVER READ A SINGLE HISTORY BOOK. BF2042 IS #PROGRESS 😑

[@TheVillainInGlasses]

@@vaporwave2345 How dare you, you **insert -ist here** !

[@punic4045]

I think the word is "deluded" not disillusioned, because disillusioned means realizing something is not as good as they though/waking up to the illusion you were falling for. I do agree with you though, DICE has been gutted and stuffed with new Devs to control so EA can do what they do best: try and turn things into cash cows by following trends and then putting it out of its misery once it stops making money, ending it in disgrace and disappointment.

[@SilverTongueJona10]

@@punic4045 yes delusional was the word I was going for. I’ve been I huge fan of Dice and Battlefield since Modern Combat 2 on console. I haven’t even touched this game this holiday season. Mostly because of bugs and the maps being bad, not necessarily because of missing features. It’s all just a disappointment that’s added to having no interest in wanting to play.

[@Darkhuntress30]

@@vaporwave2345 apap

[@Aviator-Chicken]

Just imagine…A campaign with the grit of the short film and concept art, a multiplayer with every “legacy feature” proper map design classes more weapons etc, and portal to go as wacky as we want

[@madzmedia2]

Very interesting info about working from home and the effect it had on development. I've been curious about that for a while now. No coincidence that since covid, many major AAA titles either got delayed, or got released anyway in a poor state.

[@Badger3k]

I should have realized that a company that buys the cheapest servers would do nothing to let the developers actually work from home. I guess they didn't want to provide high end computers to do the work they need to do. Nor did they want to delay the game and lose money from people dissatisfied with CoD.

[@cushin13]

Sad to see what is happening to my favorite franchise. Battlefield, It's time to say goodbye. DICE, thank you for the hundreds of hours of entertainment in BF3 and BF4.

[@ForgottenArmy1944]

Hey, a fellow Milan fan! And a Battlefield player. You're a person of class, I see

[@cushin13]

@@ForgottenArmy1944 It seems that you and I both like things that are past their prime:) In all seriousness, Milan has been doing well for almost 2 years now! And hopefully they pull it off tomorrow despite the injuries 🙌!

[@gurjindersingh3843]

You forgot Ripple Effects

[@Sturmwaffeln]

What are you thanking DICE for ? There is no one still working there who made your favorite games lol.

[@PrasathMGM]

and for battlefield 1

[@CarlosFandandgo]

It's sad, ironic, greedy and all sorts of things mixed into one. EA went for the money and what has been produced will earn them barely anything compared to what could have been. Had they just focussed on making the best Battlefield game you could ever own with the classic BF core mechanics, that would have been enough to secure its long term future as a classic game. All of the fans would have been overjoyed and that joy would have attracted newer players. The game would have been a huge success if it stuck to its roots. Once the game was settled as the "best" Battlefield game ever made, with a solid fanbase of players they could have then focussed on cosmetics, new maps, battle passes and ALL the things they believed would make them money. I'm not averse to skins, passes etc having bought a few on COD, but that's because the COD franchise sticks to its core and MW19 was an excellent game right from the Beta - that excellent foundation paved the way for a good future, and the game was so much fun I was happy to buy battle passes for me and my son, plus skins etc. I guess between me and my son we probably spent over £300 on MW19 but it was well worth it and I still play it now. EA have stolen my £68 for this game and that is ALL they will get for it. These companies are run by business graduates who have no idea how the game should be. Games like BF should be designed and built by BF fans and players and people that actually play the games. This whole situation has left a sour taste in my mouth for gaming and games companies, and going forward I will now be very careful on which games and which companies get my hard earned money. A game will need to prove itself from the off before I even think about buying it. EA has hurt the gaming industry with this one. We need developers and game studios that are passionate about games, and not how many million $ they can make each month. It amazes me that a company making so much money like EA, couldn't be bothered to kit out their developers home setup with a proper PC and full array of testing consoles. EA should be sued over this game, from players and employees.

[@tdx341]

How to defeat EA? #CancelEA don't spend a penny and look for alternatives. BF is now dead.

[@Leon-go4cw]

Look how much money they Print for free with fucking Fifa cards and then they cant spent shit on the bf production it's so depressing

[@lordfarquad5765]

Ea should be getting their cheeks clapped dude by no sales, hurt them where it hurts the most

[@jackofnotrades4350]

Dude, your Defqon pfp combined with your insightful comment about a franchise i truly love makes me so proud of you. Have you ever been to the festival?

[@Bttl71958]

Absolutely agree with all of this, EA could’ve sent this game out the park if they had just out more effort into the game and just listened to the fan base. It’s a shame that it’s like this, let’s hope they make some changes to the base game at least.

[@goeddy]

minor thing, but the phase after pre-production is not called "post-production". that is a term from the film industry. in the game industry its just called production. usually it goes like this: pre-production > vertical slice/mvp > production > alpha > beta > release > post-release/life-service with established franchises usually they will skip the vertical slice, but depends on the studio

[@MistahHaskins]

As someone who played the Technical Playtest, it was seriously mind-blowing how nothing changed from the Tech Test to the Full release of 2042. As a rundown, the playtests were about 2-3 hours long with two session a day on specified days. On the first session, of course people were hyped. It was a new Battlefield so people didn't care about how it would be but soon enough people started to see certain issues. The playtest was capped at 30FPS the ENTIRE time, and to add they told everyone that it was capped for the reasoning of "Were are looking for certain data, the performance will be tested during the Beta phase. The Tech Test will be performed to acquire data on server stability. With the new 128 Player-count, stability is much of concern". So everyone just ignored the very unrealistic frame cap for no reason at all, as the frames wouldn't interfere with data for server stability. But I ignored it and kept playing. As people kept playing, and people kept leaking gameplay on the strict ruling that EVERYTHING was under NDA, issues were starting to show. Main Menu selections weren't working properly or at all. Some settings like Future Frame Rendering was completely busted causing system instabilities OUTSIDE the game. At one point, I managed to find a way to shoot 2 rockets out of the Recoilless M5. Hitreg was just as busted as launch day, and even introducing pre-existing bugs from the Tech Test. As the first weekend of testing ended, we were all hoping for improvements and the justification on updates to fix these ongoing issues. As the second weekend started, I completely lost it with EA. All of the issues from the first weekend weren't even touched. Further more, as I did know it was for server data, the servers were the absolute worst. You would think to gather data you need as many people on as possible to get the most data possible. However, the servers were constantly crashing and games were completely just closing and sending people to the main menu 24/7 the entire weekend. As this marked the end of the Tech Test I knew that nothing would change with EA. We reported bugs about performance issues involving settings not working or tracking properly. Lone behold, for many users, the FFR setting still wasn't working in the Beta. To add, certain settings to do with sensitivity were also busted as the sliders weren't tracking the proper values. If you know one thing about EA, its to never EVER trust them to make a good quality product ever again

[@pulangpandong]

This should make me angry but it doesn't. It just makes me sad. When BFV's troubles were front and center I already got wind of how much troubles DICE was going through but I was secretly hoping that 2042 would have at least more time to figure out how to do things better. This video just reinforces the fact that even more time won't really do much because the same bad calls that made BFV the way it is, are the same ones that plagued the development of 2042. And the saddest thing of all? No amount of time will bring back the original developers that had so many years under their belts. Even if the entire management wanted to make things happen, the experience of knowing how to use frostbite to get what we want simply wont be there for many years to come.

[@carrast]

BFV isn that bad, gunplay/movement/vehicle/squad mechanichs are the best of the series. The lack of ww2 athmosphere and bad marketing killed it.

[@pulangpandong]

@@carrast lack of team balancing and cheat prevention killed it faster than anything else. Nobody wants to fight a team of level 200+ when you're with new players on your side.

[@RNB833]

@@pulangpandong Agreed, thats what made me stop playing. But damn the gunplay was very good. And soldiers animations were top notch compared to BF2042. Really sad a multi billion company won't protect its player base against cheaters.

[@pulangpandong]

Yeah bfv had the best movement and gunplay

[@sweetmyth2537]

@@carrast what WW2 atmosphere?

[@shrtrnd6706]

"Behind the scenes DICE is listening to community feedback". If that were true they would've acknowledged by now that the BF community does NOT want another fucking hero/br shooter. We want a BF game that is true to its origins. The franchise is dead as we know it. Everybody who loved the BF games in the past, will have to come to terms with this. I refunded the game and shorted the stock on the early access release day and will be buying a new gaming PC from that money. So thank you EA for staying shitty as always.

[@ThemomSlapper]

You clearly have a close minded brain but understand what you mean🤣

[@TheHare]

EA's stock price was fine on/after release day? They have so many revenue streams so investors are still happy. Congrats on the refund but I doubt shorting the stock would result in profits that large.

[@shrtrnd6706]

@@TheHare You can read a price chart right? November 12th 145$ December 1st 120$ I'd call that a pretty significant drop. Made me a couple thousand bucks. It dropped from an almost ATH to the lowest it's been in a year. But sure, the stock was/is fine. lol

[@trippybruh1592]

What a Chad move.

[@Proxinem]

Just as a small correction, you don't download a fresh copy of the game every day working at home/in-studio, you simply just sync up to the latest commit (only files that have changed/been added get downloaded). It really doesn't make much difference for devs working from home compared to the studio unless their internet is atrociously bad

[@muchclutch4906]

Excellent video I like the bits of history metioned like when studios were acquired and all the details behind development and competition ext... would like more of these style videos

[@jokerproduction]

Amazing video and super insightful into why this game is a complete train wreck. It sounds like even if they do "fix" the game it will still be EA's live service vision and not what Battlefield fans want.

[@TrevorJonesYT]

Emphasis on, not what Battlefield fans want.

[@valorsayles3048]

Ea never listens to what we want.

[@bushkilla7348]

Exactly this. Before you could always see how it could be fixed and at least appreciate what they are aiming for. With this the entire focus of the game is what's really wrong with it. That's obviously why so many key BF Dev veterans have jumped ship. They didn't believe in what they were making anymore. RIP Battlefield and it's hard to see it ever being as good again. They just want a military Apex Legends to compete with Warzone and Fortnite hence who they've now put in charge. EA just strangles everything they touch. 2042 is the worst excuse for a BF I'll ever play. Glad I bought the disc so I can try and sell it.

[@burper-oe6tm]

Not a a *complete* train wreck, they did some things right, but a lot of problems yes

[@Real_MisterSir]

"This will be a love letter to the Battlefield franchise", yea so that was a big fucking lie. I'm done with BF as a whole. Either Dice completely separates from EA, or they sink on the ship together. Not gonna stick around to find out.

[@xavdeman]

27:50 "EA/DICE leads need to push the developers to innovate against the competition". Terrible wording here. It's not the devs that need to be 'pushed' to innovate. It's obvious the leads themselves are completely out of touch. The executives at EA/DICE are clearly imposing battle royale / specialists and now even 'hero shooter' trends upon the devs. What the leads need to do is BACK OFF, stop rejecting ideas that do not fit in current market trends, and let the devs make what they want without micromanaging game mechanics like in-game monetization. Or DICE will end the same as Bioware.

[@rachel6301]

The problem is that they won't Back off

[@robertsteiner4696]

Dude just....just give it up man, DICE already has gotten to that point. They are just too far gone at this point and it's an inevitably that they will get consumed by EA at this point. May the old studio rest in peace and the new one forever be marred by failure for how they have bastardized the franchise. They deserve everything they are getting for letting shit get this bad in the first place.

[@LateNightHalo]

Yeah, Tom’s writing isn’t the strongest so there are moments like that in this script. Either way it was a solid video though

[@gregcastillo8561]

Well said

[@WingXCustom]

It's too late. It's already over

[@vaporwave2345]

Developers: I have an idea! Corporate Management: No... *WE* have an idea, are we clear?

[@mrsupertom]

Great video dude, but those transitions are hella loud when compared to your monologue 🙉 no other gripes though - very informative content! 👍

[@moritzrossbroich]

Went back to Bf4 and Bf1 just a few days after it launched. That game is nothing but an insult to Battlefield fans and the exact opposite of a love letter

[@Fedorah_Mccain]

"B-but Moritz, the love letter was Portal, not 2042 u burger brain." 😝😜🤪

[@Ajjakakkaka]

To be fair, they said portal was a love letter, not the 2042 main game. But still, game is dogmeat

[@ermac4205]

Portal is love letter not 2042. Dice was never good for BF fans ripple effect was (dice LA)

[@Fedorah_Mccain]

@@ermac4205 read your ass like the goddamn Bible from a mile away.

[@moritzrossbroich]

@@ermac4205 Dice was never good? Yes they were, Bf4 was amazing and it was not primarily developed by Dice L.A.

[@colehavenar2638]

I only bought 2042 because I thought it was going to be a more slightly futuristic BF4, and they leaned in that direction in early development by bringing back recognizable characters such as Pac and Irish. I've never been more disappointed (other than BFV) with a Battlefield game, and I hope they listen to us and give us the experience we all enjoyed before, and want now. Side note: The specialists are terrible, and don't fit the Battlefield atmosphere of regular soldiers in a massive war. BF3 nailed that style on the head, and that's all I'd play if they remastered it, that's how good it is.

[@epistimonkapetanios]

Bf5 was a good game.

[@Fraaankiee]

@@epistimonkapetanios it was okay.

[@Rudbert67]

Amen

[@Thomaswalton9801]

@@epistimonkapetanios it was the worst of the resents till 2042 came along. now it feels good.

[@epistimonkapetanios]

@@Thomaswalton9801 No it was not. It was a fun game. Bf1 was the worst, despite it's atmosphere, becuase games are supposed to be fun above all.

[@HeyhoBrando]

I think what could’ve been cool Give us character that we can custom our our own look or so, but the specialist could’ve been like a carepackage like thing. I think if they did that it would’ve been better. When I saw the first trailer I never would’ve thought we would’ve had named soldiers. It just felt weird for me seeing so many of the same characters fighting and really the only one I use is the grappler hook, and wingsuit.

[@OutOfRangeDE]

21:30 when i first fired up the Beta i was shocked how the Ui in the menu had to be integrated into the side layout, all in a boxy shape.

[@bigmike-]

The real issue, honestly, is money. EA got too greedy, wanted DICE to do something they weren't really specialized in doing, and then changed their mind about it after they acquired Respawn+Apex. The entire idea of having a lease system for consoles for the devs is also insane - EA has literal billions of dollars at it's disposal; they could have easily bought 1 of each console, for each developer, on the team; instead, they chose not to. The high developer turn-around could also have been solved with money - specifically, paying the dev staff more. This is one of EA's flagship franchises, and they could have made a fortune if they just weren't so greedy during dev.

[@tdx341]

and the solution is.. #CancelEA

[@DaKaPlays]

"cppuld of easily" welll not really lets be fair .. 1 of the smaller of the studios is 500+ devs and there was 3 studios ... so say its rougly $5000 for a Pc and 4 consols x that by 500 for the first studio is 2.5 million and thats just the hardware, then there is set up and the other larger studios... realisticly tehy would of ended up spending $20 million on just that. which would mean they would have to sell over 250,000 copies of the game just to make that back.

[@elevateddave7310]

@@DaKaPlays Yeah it would cost quite a bit. But it's gonna cost them more because they released a terrible game. They've already lost 75% of their player base. Players that are now spending $20 for a skin on Halo and CoD. Long term health of the game brings long term financial success.

[@Ebb0Productions]

Even from a greed perspective it makes no fucking sense to emulate other AAA games. Battlefield is a massive franchise with millions of fans. All they had to do was to capitalize on that. Just release a well polished battlefield game for once. One that isn't bugged out of it's mind.

[@DerryRAWA]

I don't think the game would have been better with more time. Sure some of the bugs/issues in the game might have been found and fixed but the design choices would not have been changed. We would just have a more polished turd if they had more time. I think it's fine that they chased the money but there was a way to do that and keep the Battlefield identity.

[@fausto412]

Bfbc2, bf3 and bf4 made them money. The formula was fine and didn't need to change.

[@BucklingSwashes]

I just can't get over the fact that Motive seems to have a better understanding of the Frostbite engine than even DICE does. Both Squadrons and Dead Space launched with hardly any of the kinds of bugs and visual jank that 2042 did, despite both running on Frostbite (Dead Space in particular being built on this latest iteration of Frostbite that powers 2042).

[@BeastnHarlotDFO]

Got the game on sale and couldn't stop laughing at how there is actually a bug in a FPS which refrains you from aiming down sights. No idea how that got past any testers as it's happened 4 times in a single game session.

[@TheBigBenji890]

Lol right? On PC there was a bug that prevented you from looking left and right. I'm glad I got my money back lol

[@zt.cedric]

The fact that so many developers had no choice but to leave because they were not allowed creative freedom tells you everything you need to know.

[@danothedeckbuilder1227]

This still doesn’t explain why dice and ea are so disconnected and the fact they dont know what the players actually want

[@mikedoe525]

Basically stupidity, we don't want battlefield to play like pubg or warzone, we want battlefield, but apparently they totally misses that simple point.

[@acidflare8345]

@@mikedoe525 never has a consumer base told a company how to print money and the company go "nope we gonna do the exact opposite" then call you uneducated for not buying it!

[@FauxRegard]

Because upper management is generally always out of touch with reality. They don't actually make the products they sell or even *have* to know much about them. All they do is sit at desks, have conference calls, and pretend that their spreadsheet skills qualify them to think they understand how video games work. They're ignorant bean-counters who can't be fired for their stupidity because they're all on the same team.

[@tdx341]

Just like how Vince mcmahon is out of touch in WWE and the wrestling industry is the same for EA. All powered by one thing; Greed!

[@fausto412]

Suits, c suite assholes, bean counters are not going home and playing these games.

[@benjihedman6539]

Great video! Turn up the volume of your voice a little. The sound part between each chapter is so loud if I have the volume at a good level I cant hear you at all Tom.

[@adamfrazer5150]

Great many thanks for this perspective (always hard to see initially for all the launch dust). Your diagnostic approach is both refreshing and damned needed, cheers all round to you and your team 🍻

[@DeathStalker]

So tldr: EA completely slaughtered Battlefield and OG devs left because they were tired of EA's shit and now DICE is filled with amateurs that suck at decision making.

[@american-professor]

That BF1 soundtrack in the background makes me wanna cry. It was the last great BF we had.

[@kirillholt2329]

ага...и наверно последняя

[@WingXCustom]

BF4 was the last great Battlefield. BF1 felt like an arcadey CoD game

[@fridayenjoyer]

@@WingXCustom buddy you’re smoking crack if you think bf1 is anything like a cod game

[@fridayenjoyer]

@@Padlock_Steve Ok now you’re just trolling me lmao good try steve

[@MikeLikesBikes095]

Nothing like the last 5 minutes of an Operations campaign. Man, I wish there was more BF serves than there are now

[@matgreen983]

I'll just never understand what made them think that a hero shooter - or a specialist system - would be better than the established class system. Bugs and performance issues aside - nothing new for Battlefield, they'll get fixed - it's a shame that the game gets pushed in a direction where it does not belong. No one asked for this. Battle Royales and hero shooter are popular among many people, won't debate that, but the same people that love Rainbow Six Siege or Call of Duty for their operators may also like the fact that Battlefield never worked this way. What was wrong with Assault, Engineer, Medic, Recon? Where's the issue with giving them decent (!!!) skins that fit into the atmosphere? But even if everything debatable would be cast aside, from bugs, performance, graphics, map design, specialists, et cetera: the fact that they made THIS abomination after failing so absolutely with BFV is astonishing. Aren't there community managers at dice? Does someone at Dice watch or read or listen to any content related to their product? Are they deaf and blind? The community is still actively playing the old titles, even BC2. Reddit, KZbin, Twitter, Facebook, everything overheated after BFV with several types of criticism - constructive as well as toxic, but anyway, the voices were loud and clear! The communities vision of a future Battlefield was always broadly visible: a game like Battlefield BC2, 3, 4, 1, if Dice had just taken the road down in a straight direction from where they came, we wouldn't be talking now, we would play. It's so saddening to see a franchise like this going down, because, well, let's be honest: BFV has nearly no bugs now. Runs just fine. But it's design is so awful, that it might as well be dead. The same will happen to 2042. You can fix the bugs, you wont fix 20x Maria Falck - 10 on the one side, 10 on the other, the ones speaking english, the other russian. But none of the players behind them will know who's better - no scoreboard. None of them chose actively to be on that server - no server browser. Sigh.

[@martinschmidt9878]

The problem was that classes don't sell microtransactions as good as individual "heroes". That's the one and only reason. If specialists would have been the only change and everything else would have worked like intended, most people would have lived with that change and EA would have increased sales in microtransactions. They wouldn't even notice some hardcore fans "not buying because of specialists" compared to the profits from the additional microtransactions. The problem is, that they are going where the money is and not where the fans want the product to be - except that is where the money is. But sadly for all fans of BF the money lies within casual hero-battleroyal-shooters where you can milk the playerbase for years to come and not within selling a quality product once.

[@fotis_sar._]

Look in now days everyone love that just look others games

[@fotis_sar._]

If you remember battlefield 4 was same unfinish and disappointment but after updates become the best battlefield game this gonna happen with battlefield 2042 wait till the last update

[@SirOmak]

The volume on those transitions is deafening when listening with earphones, damn, had to watch with my finger on the volume button. Besides that, very informative and well put video. 👌

[@frencht0ast969]

This was extremely helpful, and now I know why 2042 turned out the way it has. Just wish the original devs were there and had that freedom to be creative with 2042. Imagine the game we'd have if so.

[@thevesp00]

2042's Multiplayer feels like it's a limited time mode in a BR game, like it's a game that came out as a BR and is giving you the chance to play some other modes.

[@BabyMachine]

Well… that’s literally what it is. Lmao

[@Enes-wj5xq]

No it is not, they just tried a new experience with 128 and failed. The BR bullshit theory is a fan made BS.

[@yootchoobe]

It WAS originally developed as a BR... that's why for example, there was no scoreboard but it _did_ give you a *squad* placement at games end - an obvious leftover from the BR concept. Thats why it has 128 players and such huge maps. That's why the game is unfinished and why Portal was added as half-baked filler using old maps to make up for the lack of original content. It's as plain as the nose on your face lol

[@DatBoiRatchet]

@@Enes-wj5xq Uh no. Battlefield 2042 originally was going to be a BR game, it was only until the last minute EA was freaking out of it being a failure so they decided to change it & add multiplayer back into the game, which you clearly see that this shit is a hot mess, multiplayer is not even the foundation anymore its BR while everything else is built around that or its a after thought.

[@DatBoiRatchet]

@@yootchoobe thank you sir, you did your homework

[@linkkicksu]

We will never have a Battlefield as solid as BF3 BF4 was still good fun in gameplay, but it was obvious that the map design was scale and spectacle first, level design second which is why we ended up with maps like Golmud and Silk Road. A philosophy that continued with 1 and was a little improved by 5, but now 2042 has the worst in the series, along with the changes to the core experience like swapping classes for the trendy hero characters. And then the cherry on top was EA's confirmation that the next game is gonna be just a straight up BR. Battlefield is finally dead.

[@Defected-op7po]

Nice video, but the audio levels between the sections are really off. The music pieces are really loud, compared to the level of your voice. It's a really good video though.

[@alvinyiu]

I believe EA/DICE is killing this franchise by turning it into another game like Fortnite. I hope the devs are aware that the majority of battlefield player base choose this game because of the game environment and the unique vibe that this franchise can only offer in nowadays shooter games.

[@Keviekev115]

They let COD come into their lane with warzone( open world type of fps) and stalled. They have to improve and not regress like they are

[@alvinyiu]

@@Keviekev115 To be honest, the new warzone map looks amazing and it offers players to customize their own strategies at different locations or buildings to win the game.

[@MrChris2074]

Maybe not DICE fault, after all the guilt is from the clowns of EA...

[@Alex-ff1mk]

@@MrChris2074 dice is also at fault

[@bobbybluegaming9020]

Fortnite is way better… first off their game is free with free updates and free content constantly coming in. There game mechanics also work and are much more fun they BF vehicle simulator.

[@jiar300]

Sadly its time to let go, I cant see how the next Battlefield would be any different or good for that matter. the OG devs left and took hope with them. its time we put the franchise to rest and thank the devs for the previous games.

[@stevenstovall4491]

Agreed BF1/V was the mark of the end it wasn't bad but the change was there. Lack of a Hardcore mode ruined it for me and before anyone says that 2042 had a HC mode they don't. It's not a dedicated HC mode like BF3/4 where it was fun to play.

[@matejharaslin7288]

Sadly I've come to the same conclusion

[@stevenstovall4491]

@@matejharaslin7288 Well I gave up on this amd other games. It's sad to see the state of once good games go to shit.

[@Mayito1990]

They should've delayed it for a year like Microsoft did with halo infinity.

[@cory2146]

The battle is lost. Time to move on and never look back.

[@grahamjohnson4259]

The concept art looks 10X better than what we have

[@Hiraeth-0X]

Yeah

[@tumanforlife5977]

It's a concept art, what do you expect?

[@e-kun.]

Props to Tom and Crashgames. Eye opening and fairly sad...but, clarity should have been EA and DICE's prioty this time around. Shame it has come to this.

[@BlackSparki]

This was quite informative, thank you for that But could you PLEASE turn down the volume on the transitions a bit? When I upped the volume to hear you speak the loud transitions blew my freaking ears out

[@i7vSa7vi7y]

This is the issue. They need to let the devs who actually love the game they create, their whole real lives are dedicated to doing that but their bosses think they know what's best. Back in the day you had a bunch of different studios creating games. Now you have few huge companies that own all games so the uniqueness and creativity is all being dictated. This is why gaming has been so dry

[@19Ruhm94]

Add -SCOREBOARD -ALL CHAT -PLAYER STATS -SERVER BROWSER -NEW GAME MODES FOR 2042 -PRIVATE SERVER FOR RENT -64 PLAYER GAME MODE -ADD BATTLEFIELD

[@delgrady10]

Maps and more maps

[@healthyjibbit]

Remove - Specialists

[@Deeznutz581]

I wish they would just listen

[@abaurre3]

The moment I found out I have more frostbite experience than all of current DICEs developers...

[@DatBoiRatchet]

In a way it is the consumers fault, they analyze & see how many of you mindlessly blow money on call of duty warzone & they see that, so now EA wants it too & willingly to destroy they're franchise/core audience who actually care about the franchise just to follow a fucking trend that wasn't even popular until a few years ago. This battle royale craze shit seriously needs to stop, all our multiplayer games are becoming empty shells of themselves or just being ruined. Take a good long look at call of duty, take out warzone & look at the current sorry state the multiplayer/zombies is

[@troypowers750]

@@DatBoiRatchet yup, I'm still astounded by how people on console still play Warzone when the gunplay is fucking unbalanced.

[@troypowers750]

@@Padlock_Steve can you read your sentence again? And no, it's not fun. It's poorly optimized for console and it looks like shit.

[@troypowers750]

@@Padlock_Steve what in the hell do you mean? Have you seen the release of the new island for Warzone? It has the exact same problems season 2 has and that's awful render distance, muted colors, and bad balance. Sorry but I never knew being a fanboy meant complaining about a franchise I used to like.

[@troypowers750]

@@Padlock_Steve then don't try talking if you refuse to give the same effort I've given you. Twot.

[@thetute59]

If this game still makes decent money, or even more money than they would have expected from a 'real bf' instead of this BR-something, then in the eyes of an exec/suit this was the right decision.

[@themarcosaguila1]

Sucks that you are right

[@BaconEatingRAIDBoss]

They could've just made it like Battlefront Various grunts with their specific job (Classes) and then the unique ones that bring their own technology into the fight, albeit limited number at a time (Heros, Jedi, Villains, Sith) and still have sold skins for all of them, even the regular grunts like they had in BF4, BF1, and V

[@lorenzomunisami6083]

It was EA, it was always EA! Can't blame the dice devs. A multi billion dollar company can't even provide its biggest studio enough resources and time to complete a game.

[@tdx341]

#CancelEA don't forget :)

[@doyourememberme2904]

when you stay with a company as long as they are your part of the blame, It's just like if you were part of a robbery but didn't do it you'll still be arrested for being Accomplice mainly Dice is still Guilty

[@Emboltic]

Breaks my heart to see this franchise get strangled to death by EA being trend chasers instead of remaining true to there core fanbase.

[@f4t4lity0r4]

Wow thats not even like some random staff left, those are all management and director level positions. The experience void for things like senior development director of quality control release manager has to have been huge

[@Lanokota]

Great video explaining what happened. Thanks! Although, my ears are bleeding from the volume (and horribleness) of the music between sections.

[@Crbneee]

Battlefield is done, rest in peace.

[@Hiraeth-0X]

F

[@gregtay67]

Rest in pieces.

[@chaelpsonnen7140]

F

[@tonyarrogant8727]

f

[@wintrover]

F

[@DrakesdenChannel]

Some of the Frostbite issues are apparent. I'm a soft engineer and I immediately recognized BF5 and BF2042 have a missing set of shader files or some switched parameters on the PC version which makes the game look worse, they need to fix it. There are also memory leaks. Look at console gameplay and compare it to PC, the lighting is night and day. (just to be clear this is my assumption, I don't work with Frostbite or DICE but there is a clear issue.)

[@blaeck9063]

Why would it be different on consoles as opposed to PC?

[@DrakesdenChannel]

@@blaeck9063 Tons of technical backdrop is different. As for as to why this issue, I have no idea since BF5's SP doesn't have this issue. Probably something missing in the MP loading.

[@gurjindersingh3843]

Give this feedback to some DICE developer on twitter. Tom Henderson is not going to fix the game.

[@MaKTaiL]

Frostbite is a terrible engine to work with and it must die.

[@IsmaM249]

It's funny that you said that because I've been busy factory reseting my pc twice this past weekend because I got a huuuuuge memory leak caused by Battlefield worst coding game ever

[@name347]

Great info, but having to babysit the Mute key during the transitions made the video a chore to go through, whereas it could have otherwise been enjoyed as a sort of podcast.

[@alexramcharit3779]

Them adding specialist over the concept art classes feels like they gave them extra homework that ultimately gave them an F on the project. Sad because the Concept art is so cool. I probably would've bought so many skins.

[@Gx5379]

So basically this Battlefield game was made by a team that has never made a Battlefield game. Makes a lot of sense now.

[@Sturmavk]

And made by a team that apparently never played any previous BF games. Lots of COD bois and Fortnite fans by the way 2042 looks and plays.

[@slushoknight]

Hopefully we'll see a full reveal of ARC Raiders, the first game developed by Embark Studios, at TGA, rather than just a teaser trailer.

[@ang3lxdust315]

Is this where most of the original dice developers are?

[@namesii1880]

Embark is sadly owned by Nexon. So really i wouldn't expect anything good to come from them, Nexon just churns out MTX garbage.

[@johnoneill3654]

@ANG3LxDUST A good few of them yeah. Including the ever delightful Patrick Söderlund 😐.

[@soulhax]

Third person, Nexon is the owner.

[@0uttaS1TE]

@@johnoneill3654 "Don't like it Don't buy it" 2

[@banhammer7243]

Up until Battlefield 2042 I had only one game I had real genuine buyers regret over purchasing and that was Black Ops 4, I wasn't going to buy it as it had no campaign, but Battlefield was delayed and I caved. When I heard Battlefield 2042 had no campaign I didn't bother even looking into pre-ordering it, then a friend wanted to try the beta. So we both bought in and played the Beta, I was almost immediately looking into getting refund (Playstation) but talked myself into thinking "It'll be better on final release!" and didn't claim a refund, even when Playstation offered one due to the delay. I now have two games I regret buying with Battlefield 2042 in my collection, it is such an uninspiring game I have struggled to play it enough to get to level 20. Ie gone back to playing Vanguard and Fortnite for FPS fix.

[@ArcangelGamingEntertainment]

An important note on frostbite is that back in the transition between bf3 and 4 and devs spoke about issues they can never resolve because frostbite, while technically sensational, is not good for large multiplayer shooters.

[@deadpxl]

"UI has always been understaffed and underscoped" as a UI designer, this is the norm for nearly any and all games AAA and indie. This whole ordeal is incredibly disheartening as the Battlefield franchise has always been a huge, driving source of inspiration and passion for my career. To see it absolutely slaughtered like this reminds me why I avoid AAA studios. Once a game becomes so successful the execs, management, and shareholders can't stand to risk the "success" (read: "their profits") on the "whims of passion and creativity" even if it's success was owed to passion and creativity to begin with. So every possible corner is cut and every path taken is limited to those paved by successful trends proven by others. And, to be safe, they try to maximize potential profit by making the game little more than a platform for micro-transactions. RIP Battlefield. RIP DICE. I truly mourn both.

[@Criiies]

If you have a passion for ui I encourage you to take a look at The Last of Us Part 2. It has the most prestine, functional, elegant and readable ui I've seen in years. Polished to perfection. Naughty dog has some unbelievable talent in their studio

[@RevyPls]

I am also working for a software development company and so I know this issue. As long as the code works we can just explain the users 100 times how to use it correctly and not invest more into UX/UI The issue here is, I FEEL LIKE, that it does not feel like it isnt polished or not good enoug but it is flat out embarrassing. Like UX/UI always should focus on making things simple and time efficient and in battlefield is there one thing u dont need to click at least twice to get what u want? I am so confused how this happened this is honestly crazy to me

[@mubassirzaman7202]

@@Criiies Also Red Dead Redemption.

[@InFamou5Killer]

Don't cry because it's over smile because it happened. RIP battlefield

[@123321efrain]

Like what happened to the claymores the emc jammer's the classes it's good to be able to mix things up but it really messes up when it felt they push less for teamwork and more a cod setting

[@PenguinDT]

The best DICE game from the recent years is definitely Ultracore. Originally known as Hardcore, it was to be DICE's 16 bit magnum opus for Sega Mega Drive, but was canned on the finish line with the entire market pivoting to new things in 3D. In 2019 SLG acquired the game, finished it, ported it to modern systems and finally released it - and it's pretty darn great.

[@Thrawn896]

If this Battlefield Hero shooter is really to appear, I hope that it fails mercilessly, I Play bf since BC1 on my PS3 and when I hear these plans for the future, I only get sick.

[@1_visje34]

Got some bad news for ya: this Battlefield hero shooter is out already, don't worry it already has a 2.2 on metacritic

[@2wheelmotohead339]

It has, and it is

[@Thrawn896]

@@1_visje34 Hahaha the thing is the EA idiots blame it on the bugs and not the core problem that this game has no soul and the specialists were a stupid idea

[@trk1b28varianrhesa4]

@@Thrawn896 it's success from their perspective. Cause cod kids likes it

[@Wolfdog1942]

"just copy whats popular" thats actually sad... imagine in 10 years well only have a single video game reskinned by every popular studio... great.

[@allanaruba]

Awesome breakdown of alot of factors that contributed to Battlefield 2042. Always felt like Dice suffered from pressure from EA to target the more mainstream FPS demographic, but appears Dice lost alot of the people who brought the franchise's identity. From the first play of Orbital, it was apparent how much the game was built with an ambition to be a Battle Royale. Map lacked cover and map design outside of 2 large focal points (rocket and skyscraper). Fans are showing in numbers how switched off they are with this title and hopefully that sends home a message to EA & Dice, which sadly won't be loud enough considering they didn't learn from Battlefield V or Hardline. Talk of a future title focusing on specialists simply sounds like they're wanting to be Overwatch or Rainbow 6 Siege. With many gamers tired of Battle Royales, the above mentioned titles dying out and CoD failing to deliver a solid title this year.... Battlefield really could have got what EA lusted for, if they had only tried to replicate their own franchise titles.

[@pmue96]

I like to call it the FYRE Festival of video games. Promises were made, hype up trailers were shown but lot of things went wrong and led to a big clusterfuxk