I took my ELECTRIC CAR for its first EVer SERVICE and was SHOCKED! Prepare yourself for this...

Electric Cars, EV, Electric Vehicles, call them what you like, we are told that they are the future of motoring, we are also told that they are cheaper to run than petrol or diesel internal combustion engine cars. However I believe that isn't the actual reality of EV Ownership. I own an all electric Porsche Taycan and found that with the initial outlay and using public electric charging points driving an Electric Car costs substantially more than running a petrol or diesel car, even charging your electric car at home is now more expensive because of the rising Electricity Prices. I've had my EV now for just over a year and it's due it's first EVer service. So in today's vlog we are going to Porsche Leeds to se just how much it costs and what's involved in servicing an Electric Car.
#evs #electriccar #electricvehicle #electric #porsche

[@johnarnell4241]

I can't be the only person who has noticed how much customer service has deteriorated in all areas public and private since public sector flu !

[@asambrook76]

Most people seem to have a vacant stare about them since too.

[@brummierabbitman9637]

They even ignore freedom of information requests these days. Disgusting

[@Neil070]

I've sent three emails to one company over the course of a few months. None answered or acknowledged

[@therealrobertbirchall]

40 years of tory misrule, greed is good and devil take the hindmost

[@winstonsmith935]

Pay in peanuts you get monkeys. Customer is better at a zoo with Gorillas.

[@ilovesuisse1]

Life is too short for waiting in a queue to charge a car.

[@lamontwolverton8959]

95% of all EV’s are still on the road, the other 5% made it home!

[@davewilson4528]

They're still on the road waiting for the diesel powered tow trucks to show up and give them a charge so they can make it home.

[@johnnydoe1984]

The other 5% are Chinese made and the fire brigade are still trying to extinguish them after they caught fire !

[@joelpierce3940]

😂😂😂

[@southernstargazer1951]

Love that analogy 😄

[@davidelrick3131]

😂

[@cncwizard]

Let's not forget the 20,000 to 50,000 gallons of H2O it takes to put one out when it bursts into flames for no apparent reason. Nasty chemicals & toxic heavy metals flowing into the water supply the whole time...

[@ilovesuisse1]

I love my fossil fuelled Audi TT Roadster. No moving crematorium for me.

[@mauricegeake8207]

And I absolutely love driving past the petrol stations and giving them the finger now, as they are charging whatever they feel like for fuel in Australia atm. My guess is, that there will always be ICE cars so some extent, no doubt about it, but in time, they will be about as popular as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, but it is only early days yet....just mark my words on this.

[@gordonhill8164]

Good to see that the exhaust system and catalytic converter got a green stamp of approval, Also good to see they checked the engine for noise and smoke. That got a green stamp as well. Cam belt was fine.

[@andrerodriguez7603]

Another smart man who noticed that service was generic for gas engine Porsche. They sure took his money, and laughed all the way to the bank. MacMaster needs to watch KZbin for the difference between a gas car vs a EV mechanically.

[@GeorgeRenshaw-f6c]

The vauxhall cavaliers i had all built at Luton and Th and VWs were all crap along with a Bmw 3 series. Opal is not a german firm but was owned by General motors and now own by the french A little story that when Opel Cavaliers were being built for export to Japan Detriot said they at to be built in Luton because they had the best build quality in GM Europe. Lets not all fall for the German myth

[@1ralton1]

😜Shocking isn't it? I mean, It's totally misleading. I bet a lot of customers wouldn't even know that an EV has none of them. Surely they should put N/A rather than an indication that these none existing items have passed the inspection? Porsche what are you doing?

[@1crazypj]

@@GeorgeRenshaw-f6c I know, that's why I re-built a Vauxhall 2.3 for it. (to make sure everything was in correct place with correct clearances) Getrag gearbox was German though and it had Bosche electrics (back when they were 100% German)

[@flouisbailey]

@@1ralton1 they passed over them not same as checking. Wife had a great Volvo S60T dealer always commented on thrust bushing….found only on the 4wheel drive models it was front drive.

[@carolyn6001]

I live in the United States. We have a very large country we can drive 3,000+- miles from coast to coast. I generally drive a 1600 mile trip One direction and I can tell you of the thousands of cars I pass I can count on one hand the number of electric vehicles I have seen on each trip. There is no way electric cars can be the future. it's not a sustainable idea. thousands upon thousands of cars, even millions, cannot be replaced with electric vehicles. There are not enough supplies to make the batteries. Pipe dream. there has to be another solution or we're going to keep going along with petroleum products running our automotive industry.

[@nikex2197]

We ARE going to keep going along with petroleum products running our automotive industry. The demand for oil is forecast to increase for at least the next 20 years. Technology is the limiting factor, and no ideology-driven legislation is going to change that fact. The sooner we get off this dead-end road to nowhere, the better.

[@theelectricmonk3909]

So much nonsense :( It makes me sad - you do zero research, zero fact checking, and spout this sort of bollocks as "fact". Sure, EVs are not quite as convenient as petrol/diesel cars for doing very long distances. Never mind the fact they'll do your daily commute (average in America: 20.5 miles each way) for a whole week on a charge, and even at NY prices, assuming a 100kWh battery that was completely flat, it'll cost less than 25 bucks to "refill". And do another week. How does your gas-guzzling F250 compare eh? (ok, I'll do the maths for you: F250 mpg = 13.4, 41*5 miles/week @ $3.20/gal = nearly $50). So double the price. That 1600 mile road trip? Over $380 in gas alone.

[@FullFact548]

Most EVs look like regular gas cars, Carolyn, so how would you know?

[@FullFact548]

10.9% of global car sales in 2022 were battery electric vehicles. There is no shortage of materials to make batteries, and battery development is changing at a rapid pace. I'm afraid to say that there is far too much negative and inaccurate reporting in the media, much of it supported by the oil industry 😢

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

You will find that the Left do not consider driving coast to coast is a part of the future either.

[@julesviolin]

⚠️TOP TIP Always write down your requirements in duplicate . Leave one in the car and one at reception. Never give verbal requests they disappear. TOP TIP No2 Never let main agents do servicing. It funds their fancy showrooms. TOP TIP No3 Never buy an EV

[@aliengrey6052]

Anyone who bought into the electric car charade deserves everything they get.

[@don-qb4xb]

Lee I am a mechanic and undertake those service checks on cars I work on. I work in an independent Garage where our costs are much lower than franchised dealerships. I am amazed when a customer shows me an invoice from a main dealer with just how much they charge. As for EVs they have much less to do as they do not have an engine. The dealers are not going to let their revenue slip away so will always find ways to pad the bill. EVs are still relatively a new thing and yes I know how long the Leaf has been around but things will still go wrong as they get older. One thing I have learned after thirty years working on cars is they may be more reliable these days but when they go wrong they cost a lot more to fix. As I started to watch I had a figure of £300 in my head for what was probably an hours work. You have definitely had your trousers well and truly removed.

[@Dan23_7]

I run a 2003 beetle tdi. Service it myself or minor jobs. A mate who’s a mechanic did the cambelt, w/pump, auxiliary and tensioner, so mates rates👍🏼 new cars don’t float my boat but I know when stuff goes wrong it’s ££££.

[@TheMacMaster]

LOL Yes I have a sore behind! Lol

[@NickyDunn]

@@TheMacMaster 😁🤣

[@philnotley5138]

I presume you have to use the main dealerships to keep the warranty valid ? So they can charge what they like really

[@jonhunter8737]

Next time,.take some KY with you to ease it in!!!!!

[@yanikem6655]

Here’s the deal - 1. get everyone onto finance agreements to purchase these expensive EVs. 2. Make it so that you HAVE to get them serviced at approved dealers or your expensive toy’s resale value will be impacted. 3. Once everyone has one of these, they will tell you when and for how long you can drive. 4. They will then use those who are by now heavily in debt on to subscription packages where they will again control access as part of the subscription agreement. They have already warned us - YOU WILL OWN NOTHING…AND YOU’LL BE HAPPY

[@carletonrutherford1799]

Loosen your tinfoil hat, man. You have made a lot of assumptions there.

[@yanikem6655]

@@carletonrutherford1799 Tinfoil hat??? Ah, that catch-all phrase used by the weak-minded to denigrate the warnings of those who have the clarity of foresight to see through the BS that is coming. Give yourself a shake, stop hiding behind what the media spoon-feeds you and open your eyes. It is already happening. Or look the other way like a coward and ignore what’s coming for our childrens’ future.

[@carletonrutherford1799]

@@yanikem6655 Seek help dude. But you won't, because you go to conspiracy minded internet echo chambers, full of other smooth brained morons, and you all convince each other that what, EV companies are going to control you, or the government? Or both? Enjoy your paranoid life, dude.

[@yanikem6655]

@@carletonrutherford1799 we’re already ‘controlled’, idiot! Can you travel to another country without a passport? Can you draw a pension without identification? Willing control. No point in trying to educate morons like you. Let the media anaesthetise your anxieties. You’re the perfect fuel for those who control weak minds. Goodbye, fool.

[@johnnydoe1984]

@Carleton Rutherford Look up C40 plans ! You'll be buying one (tin hat) yourself then. Carleton Rutherford 😎🐑 ?

[@jenny6253]

Wow that’s insane!! I’m wondering if it’s that expensive for all makes of EV,s. Imagine if you are trying to run a fleet of trucks for transporting essentials and what that will do to prices!! Holly crap!!

[@flouisbailey]

Hertz rentals of USA is selling 60,000 used Teslas, wonder why. PS not to be replaced with EVs.

[@lupo10]

£750 for a safety inspection? Wow that is scandalous.

[@andrewjohnson6162]

£750 to plug a laptop up to the car and hit the enter button. Super difficult waiting the 15 minutes for the update as well. All done in 25 minutes then top up the fluids and jobs a goodun but they will still make you wait 4 hours. Then charge you 4 hours of labour at £150 per hour with £150 for topping off the fluids. It's a bargin at twice the price.

[@SnaxMuppet]

But that is Porsche. It isn't that expensive with normal brands

[@MummaBear]

This implies it's not safe and needs regular inspecting 😅

[@john1genius]

Don't forget it's hard to get people to risk getting roasted in fireproof suits and carry out the safety check- on what is a potential firebomb - head first underneath the said bomb

[@nickviner1225]

I live in Australia and often drive from Geelong to Brisbane (over 2000Kms)often and you want me to buy something that will go for 400 Km before it stops or I have to queue for hours to recharge. My citroen goes for nearly 1000 Km on one tank of diesel. You have to be kidding if anyone thinks this is the future in a big country. It may work if you live in a city but forget it for wide open spaces.

[@beejons6145]

if you was to live in a city a ev bicycle would make a lot more sense, unless your a rich person doing away with cash before the tax man takes it

[@chodkowski01]

I just took my 2022 Honda Civic in for its 1 year service and they charged me $60.

[@warthogA10]

What most aren't thinking about. If they are ever successful in banning fossil fuels, the cost for electricity will absolutely skyrocket dramatically, as well as taxes. Because the electric grid will need substantial, multi billions in upgrades, which of course won't be figured out until well after the serious problems have revealed themselves, and those upgrades will be done in a manner which they are already obsolete by the time they're half way done... And all of this is fully intentional. People should demand information on politicians etc who are heavily invested financially to all of this, every aspect from mining for materials, to production, to distribution of electricity etc., etc.. Then maybe people may start to figure things out

[@edwinthompson6510]

EVs are a government scam no less

[@MS-Patriot2]

Got a 2006 Toyota Landcruiser. Washer jet needed replacement, call to parts, ordered and delivered to dealer within 48 hrs. Polite phone call to advise it was available to collect. Wandered down there, through Dubai Hotel standard granite showroom to the parts counter. Apprehended by ‘front desk’ lady who insisted I sat in the plush sofa, got me a coffee and biscuits, and only then proceeded to ask why I was there. A minute later the part and paperwork were handed to me (albeit not on a velvety cushion) and I had a nice chat with the parts guy. Pleasant experience but the cost of all that BS is built into your price. Still, £17.50 for a washer jet for a 17 year old car is fair enough imho. Well done Toyota.

[@youtubesucks8995]

I cannot believe they can’t get a part for your virtually brand-new car. Just to put that into perspective, I’ve just bought a brand new cigar lighter and housing for my ‘1958’ Ford Fairlane 500!

[@robertlincoln7312]

So, they charged you £750.00 just to look at your car. Not wishing to be rude but who is the muppet?

[@harold6863]

I am a Master tech, all cars get a free health check, the brakes usually only require replacing when the discs have fully corroded as they never wear out. A diagnostic check and reset electronic handbook is about 5 minutes. The tyre condition, pressures, steering and suspension checks double up with the free EVHC which all dealers of every manufacturer I know do. A few visual checks put it on charge. Yes the EV servicing is a mugs game.

[@xperyskop2475]

That's why I don't service my Leaf. Air filter/cabin filter I can replace myself

[@ChrisPopham]

The smart metre in your house is able to see if your charging a vehicle so that means you will soon be taxed like any other fuel you use the whole thing is a scam

[@mikebilsborough765]

How does it know electricity is going into a car as opposed to say a home battery?

[@ChrisPopham]

@@mikebilsborough765 I don’t know, I’m not an electrician. In fact far from it, I thought it was widely known that the smart meter in the house can detect all sorts of different devices, I suppose it wouldn’t be too hard to identify a specific electric drawer rate signature?

[@stepheneasson9787]

Ian, I think the extortionate price you paid for the service is more of a porsche thing rather and what you pay to service most evs. For example a 5 year service plan on an EV6 is £900, that's 5 services and 3 MOTs.

[@JustLiveInPeace2]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tyres made up the £750.06. They showed as being approx 60% worn and were flagged as Amber. That bill also showed Total Identified Work as £750.06, Total Declined Work as £750.06 and no price next to Total Completed Work. I also note they list Engine Noise, Exhaust system and Fuel System as items checked. Sorry but I'm a little confused by this.

[@Wdeane1957]

Yep, they puzzled me too. Charging to check non existing components.

[@richardneale246]

My 12 year old diesel VW Golf passed its MOT emission test OK again. 66 M.P.G. £30 a year road tax. E.V. has to "up its game" before I can see it as a serious alternative. Thanks Lee for showing exactly what is involved with owning an E.V. No more Fish and Chips for awhile mate !!!!!!!!!

[@Supraboyes]

Yeah but if you buy a EV it will save you money, no road tax no services... Just caugh up 50k to start saving. 🤪. Yeah I'd stick with the golf mate, I've got a 10 year old pug and a 30 year old Toyota, it's cheaper for me to service both every year than to go buy a EV.

[@winstonsmith935]

You will be mandated by 2030 to dispose of your Diesel, You are an obedient slave of the UN

[@robertsmith2956]

What do they do for inspections if you drop a gas engine in the porsche? or an electric engine in a gas car for that matter. How to you plug the exhaust to check for leaks it it has no exhaust?

[@iway002]

That is why they call them the poor mans Mercedes Benz!!

[@dunebuggymike]

So what maintenance did they actually do? Was this just an inspection? Most of the items on that list are for ICE cars. - alternator belt - You don't have an alternator. - antifreeze - You don't have a radiator. - cambelt - You don't have a camshaft. Or an engine. - clutch/transmission - Does not exist. - engine noise/smoke - No engine. - exhaust system/catalyst - Does not exist. - fuel system - LOL, what? - power steering fluid - It has electric power steering.

[@willallen7757]

Considering that price does not include any oil, transmission fluid or filters it's absolute highway robbery.

[@carl9976]

Daylight robbery if you ask me. It’s not even a service because nothing was changed.. it’s £750 for an inspection. 🤑

[@gerryepp6262]

I will NEVER buy an EV.......I'll just keep driving and repairing, as needed, my 2005 Tacoma.......I'll probably be dead by the time all gas vehicle are made totally illegal and I'll be Happy to be rid of this society built on Greed and Evil

[@johntate5050]

I have to agree. I'm in my 50s and I wouldn't want to be a kid with the future they're walking into.

[@ashleymoore9063]

50% depreciation in the first two years enormous service charges high cost of charging whilst on the road unsailable after 4 years due to battery concerns and a risk of fire at any time that will demolish your house within 5 minutes whilst you sleep. Why wouldn't you buy an Eevee

[@josefeibl8230]

Personal experience or just regurgitating what you hear?

[@robocowone464]

Everybody is always saying that electric cars don't have anything to service. That's simply not true. You have coolant, gear oil, brake fluid, cabin air filters, etc. You say you don't hardly use the brakes, but some times that does more harm than good. Parts need to be used to keep them from corroding and freezing up. What nobody wants to talk about is the fact that EV'S are much heavier than ICE vehicles. That weight is extremely hard on tires and suspension components. All that needs to be checked. The principals of an electric car are simple, but the reality is they are extremely complex systems that most people can't work on themselves even if they wanted to.

[@MaverickAus]

Why on earth did the drivers side tyres need replacing yet the passenger side tyres were 50 odd % worn? Roundabouts should wear the passengers side more. Yeah I will not be buying an EV anytime soon, even IF I could afford one which I cannot. Here in Australia a few years ago LPG for cars was all the rage, the government subsidized the fitting of the gas tanks and LPG was half the price of petrol. Until it reached a certain saturation point then boom LPG doubled in price overnight. Of course no-one uses LPG as a fuel now and the price has dropped back to around half the price of petrol. It was all a big con and EV's are the same. A government backed scam.

[@Raylufc]

I lost my mother on Saturday and didn't turn on the TV until today, and I watched you and the blond angel eating curry in Mansfield it was the first time I laughed for days thank you

[@TheMacMaster]

❤️ Sorry for your loss.

[@Raylufc]

@@TheMacMaster as I am for the loss of your wonderful mother

[@next0845]

I’ve got an old 2012 Citroen with a 1.6 diesel engine and low mileage. It cost me £5000 and it does 50 mpg around town! When you factor in the cost of buying these electric cars it doesn’t make sense, and when they get as old as my car, you’ll get stung for the huge cost of a new battery.

[@refuztosay9454]

750 just to put it up on a lift and look around. You’ve been ripped off my friend.

[@rogerhudson2814]

It's not that EV servicing is expensive, it's PORSCHE! servicing that's expensive , especially at main dealerships. Ex 911 owner.

[@zeroone5097]

Wouldn't touch an EV with a barge pole

[@TheSolar50]

That is very expensive, I am not interested in buying an EV at all. I think we are all being taking for a ride on this issue

[@PaulCowcher]

Only the gullible. Granted, a lot of them!

[@speccyiiii7677]

Makes you think that politicians and others in the know have invested heavily in EV technology and are now feeling a bit flat that they haven't made them as much money as they thought they would! Makes you think that if the voters don't fall in line with their wishes that you purchase an EV they will mandate you to do so...

[@billwest4570]

Don't forget the people promoting EVs are our politicians, and an 18 year old thats never done a days work in her life, what more do you need to know?

[@organickevinlondon]

and ex international truckers, like me, as I own a Mini EV, and it shits all over its ICE equivilent.

[@cremedelacreme12]

Hi Marc,a friend of d Mac is a friend of mine😉

[@rickerbyct]

This is the sort of bloke if you walked into a pub or a train carriage and heard him for all of 30 seconds you’d walk out again

[@bobyearley5088]

Sticking with my V8 Aston Martin. Before the "Holier than thou", lefty loonies get involved i rarely use it so very low emissions. i have other vehicles and motorbikes to use. Not electric but low emission. I also have nothing against small electric cars for the city. But I believe each to their own!

[@caver38]

The biggest problem with all electric cars will be the cost and maintance of all the charging points , the new generating stations that will be needed and the poulltion it will generate . The ecological costs of going all electric will be enourmous

[@martinbootneck]

I've had electric cars for years, my Scalextrix was all electric. EV, AV, VD, FU, no ta I'm sticking with my DB5, it may be old but it was my dream car and Ive had it for 45yrs now and NOBODY is going to take that away from me.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I know who will take it away from you. Master Death.

[@shingerz]

Well said 👍

[@dangerman01582]

Good video. Just shows how the average person with a mortgage or rent to pay won't be able to even afford the service on an EV

[@JupiterAscending2]

An average person with a mortgage or rent to pay will not buy a Porsche Taycan, an EV that costs over USD$100K to USD$230K. I own/have owned 3 EVs and none of them cost outrageous amount of money to service. In fact, the two full battery electric EVs I have, only need tire rotation once or twice a year, that costs $30.

[@scottiopizza7565]

I'm a retired auto technician, and looking at that sheet of work performed....I just hope they gave you a cigarette after that!

[@-EC002-]

I suspect that most of the "service" was done in 10 minutes on a laptop!

[@colinmartin2921]

£750!!!!!!! You must be joking. I have just serviced my car and it cost £35 for oil and filter.

[@Mar-vu9nx]

It is not a PORSCHE, riches not over 220 kmh, and doesn't will ever brake like a PORSCHE.

[@phildavenport4150]

@@Mar-vu9nx It does, however, speak a superior version of English.

[@Mar-vu9nx]

@Phil Davenport sorry, I'm not an native English speaker! but well enough to see what you're doing! Winding, repeating dozens of times. An lay! And at the end, you receive the list with the checked points! Wtf

[@iandunn4722]

How long will the cheaper overnight tariff on electricity last when everyone is charging their EVs at home overnight, answer me that one

[@jjbiggmann5576]

FOREVER. OR AT LEAST TILL PEOPLE STOP SLEEPING AT NIGHT.....WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

[@boogboog8097]

Where are all the chargers going to be? I live in a city there is no possibility that the grid could even support the chargers its all complete bs

[@WayneM1961]

In my humble opinion, every motorist up and down the country needs to lobby their MP and oppose the 2030 ban on new car sales of petrol and diesel engines. The infrastructure needed in the way of charging points is never going to be in place by 2030. Our next car is going to be the E-power Qashqai Tekna. This interesting concept uses a petrol engine ONLY to charge the car, at all times the electric motor powers the wheel. Not only will these give much improved MPG figures it will also noticeably cut down on exhaust emissions and again, in my opinion, that's about as far as the UK is ready to go with all electric as we stand here in 2023. If we are ready for all electric by 2030 then I'll stand corrected.

[@granhellosyan]

You leased a Porsche so you should expect to pay through the nose, if you wanted cheap there are plenty of other makes which are cheaper. Pity you didn't do due diligence and find out the charges prior to the lease.

[@steverose8633]

Lee, If you can afford a Porche, you can afford the service. I see in 2025 all EV's will have road tax implemented.

[@timesup4688]

I will not own any electric car.,.. SCAM !

[@jjbiggmann5576]

YES YOU WILL

[@timesup4688]

@@jjbiggmann5576 sorry but I won't, they're junk

[@karelglasner2673]

They will all be recalled 😂

[@BigYouDog]

In most cities with high density populations, EV will be unworkable due to not being able to home charge.

[@Strideo1]

I have to park on the street. Not a single city in my area has announced what street parkers are supposed to do to charge EV's even though my state government wants to ban the sale of gasoline powered vehicles in the very near future. My wife and I can hopefully just keep holding onto our gas powered car for a good while longer and we'll see how things develop in the meantime.

[@jonmath4182]

In one city I stayed in before, the 18 storey apartment with about 150 units total, they had just installed ev charging stations for residents a month before I left, and the number of stations was... drum roll... THREE! 👏👏👏 🤦‍♂️

[@MrPaulMorris]

According to official figures, around one third of UK households have no off street parking. In urban areas that figure is much higher. I've not looked at how many vehicles that translates to but it's likely to be in the region of 10 to 15 million cars needing to use public (or, possibly, workplace) chargers. Since the current target is to install a couple of hundred thousand chargers within the next decade that means a lot of sharing and little low cost home charging for many which, along with the high capital cost will disproportionately affect the less affluent.

[@BigYouDog]

@@MrPaulMorris I can see "Charge point rage" becoming a thing in urban areas.

[@jamesgilbart2672]

The full service on my MG EV was £100 - it's not a sport car but it is a more sensible car and shows how cheap EVs should be to service. As others say below, Porche are seriously ripping you off. EV serving should be a lot cheaper because there is no oil to change, no engine coolant to top up no spark plugs or oil, air or fuel filters to change and no emissions to check etc.

[@Azureecosse]

Seeing a lot of these MG EVs with non functioning LED head lights usually pretty new from 2019 onwards, that kind of suggest quality is not up there with Hondas and Toyota's . MGs are very tempting for people to get into the EV market but how long with they last before things start to go seriously wrong they are entry level EVs built to a price point, not trying to disparage your vehicle but they are Chinese built so quality is suspect.

[@jamesgilbart2672]

@@Azureecosse You may be right but they come with a 7-year warranty so failures like that should be covered. You'll probably find that a lot of the components in Honda and many other EVs come from China!

[@Azureecosse]

@@jamesgilbart2672 They do indeed but come with more stringent quality control which is reflected in the price for off the shelf Honda and Toyota parts, Honda LED headlight single unit for a CRV £800 new, after market 5 to £600 used 4 to £500, MG HS new £350 to £400.00 used £150 to £200. Ali express £199. ( new non patent part).

[@johnkemas7344]

You are paying a premium price for a product with a famous name, not because it has value. Just like all the morons buying Apple and Iphone products, Teslas, Rolex watches, Nikon cameras etc etc. Like PT Barnum, said "There is a sucker born every minute"!!

[@rodshoaf]

How much does it take to replace those tires at a twice the average of a ICE? Also notice they cost more since they have to be built to handle a higher load. How much will it cost to replace the battery pack after it gives up the ghost? Or will you be scrapping it like the rest do because the battery cost more than the value of the car?

[@wazuo8354]

With the price of electricity and potential future price increases there's no way I'd even consider buying an EV

[@meremortal5789]

Common sense and my location told me EVs weren't my answer. I added a second ICE pickup to my fleet and I'm good for life.

[@terrygee210]

£750 for a bunch of visual inspections, and they couldn't even empty the boot to check the spare?

[@grathy1]

They checked the cambelt!!? Why did you change tyres with over 4mm on them.

[@n0w3lly90]

I imagine most of the costs are associated with the fact these are now exceedingly expensive planned obsolesence goods and a laptop on wheels ? You know: Taycan 1.0,.2.0,.3.0 with incremental tech and range improvements! I plan to buy petrol cars for as long as I possibly can frankly

[@jackwatsonepic626]

The extortionate cost is for the badges what they where on their uniform as well as all that nice deca , it all has to be paid for these dealership garages have been getting away with it for decades , £10:200 for a push-bike bloody hell I didn't buy my first house for that price back in the early noughties 🇬🇧

[@jackwatsonepic626]

In decades to come when 80% of people have electric vehicles The government will then hold , you to ransom ; watch this space .

[@tokairic3925]

Whar is the Porsche labour rate? I was a mechanic (:"technician?") a long time ago and I didn't believe that people would happily pay £25 per hour for someone to change their oil and filter, then do a series of safety related checks that pretty much anyone could do. Now its nearer £70 per hour for the same kind of service. Incredible - but what do Porsche charge? to plug in a diagnostic machine.

[@keithbuckley3220]

Porsche - Merc - Audi all cost double the standard rates for servicing. Volvo consider the car is always theirs and you are not allowed to do thing without checking with them first. For god sake bring back cars which don't have to rely on computers to open glove compartments and screens of information large enough to take you mind off driving, and with nowhere to charge electric vehicles without a long wait.

[@CharlesRWJones]

£1500 including 2 tyres, so that's £375 per tyre. Are they the special gold wall tyres?

[@ddognine]

In the US, used ICEs are expensive while used EVs are basically junk. I have an '05 Camry with over 200k. It's not a looker, but I still get unsolicited offers for it.

[@donbrownist]

You are telling me that they don't provide a loaner car while they take your entire day to install 2 tires and check your blinker fluid for a mere 1500Pounds and you are happy with that? Why would any sane person do business with this dealership that treats them like a piece of crap?

[@smartcookie3500]

When you have so much money, you don't care about cost like regular people.

[@derekstocker6661]

Well done on this, loved the advice and banter. Two people I know have parted with their EVs as not viable owing to charging difficulties and expense, one of them had the BS baffles brains chat with the supplier when surprised as you were at the bill for whatever they did at the supplier. Look forward to more on these vehicles as we suspect that as the date of stopping petrol vehicles gets nearer, the value of 2nd hand petrol or diesel cars will increase substantially!

[@6chhelipilot]

Is the rise in the value of 2nd hand petrol and diesel cars a good thing? If EVs are losing value hand over fist, what's going to be the cheapest to buy? Some people just want cheap to run transport. With regard to the cost of servicing a Porsche EV... well, it's a Porsche!

[@rodshoaf]

@@6chhelipilot Cars would be a hell of a lot cheaper if the feds got out of the way.. and they would also be cheaper to fix to boot. Cars today are nothing but plastic and throwaway parts because they have to be so light to make range standards they are practically made of tinfoil the metal is so thin.

[@ashbohgan2022]

I always buy old cars. There cheap to run nd parts are cheap too.. I service my own car. The clutch is going now. My friend going to fit for me in his back yard. He doesn't want money. As he say I've helped him nd he's helping me. New cars a good to look at but they are only used for 10 % of the day if not less. If a car get me from A/Z. That's all that matters.

[@johnthompson3605]

I,LL stick with my 25 year old Land rover Discovery, it's got virtually a zero footprint by now.

[@silktvPDR1]

Me too 2007 Freelander 2 and still an awesome car that I love !

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Yes, because burning russian oil does not produce poisonous gases. Only deadly poisonous ones.

[@sambrooks7862]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 you're not normal are you

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@sambrooks7862 No i am not normal. I am a electrician, i am a father, i have a company, i care for my own environment and i care for my children so they have a environment to live in and i care for my employees so they have a environment to live in and raise their own children in a environment that does not kill youi.. Of course i am not normal!

[@GeoffAmey]

You poison innocent pedestrians where ever you go you muppet

[@David-fj5lz]

Will engineer now refuse to service a car which could electrocute or burn them horribly ?

[@jacquesmertens3369]

2 tyres have been replaced, but both were on the passenger side?! That means either you have been driving your mother-in-law every day, or the wheels weren't balanced and properly aligned, which would make it a warranty issue. Also, replacing tyres on 1 side only is outright dangerous, as everyone should know.

[@TheBarnster75]

VW wanted to charge me £399 + VAT for a faulty engine sensor for my GTI. £250 to replace the waterproof seal around the aerial. Don'T think rip offs are an EV thing...maybe a German car thing.

[@niv8880]

I agree, I would never buy German after my experience with Mercedes: 4 breakdowns in 3 years. The last breakdown (still under 20,000 miles) was a catastrophic engine failure. It was recovered by Mercedes 2 months ago, it's still with the service dept - just bought something else and will deal with them/it when I got time.

[@TheBarnster75]

@@niv8880 I've had mixed experience...the GTI has mostly been great over the 10yrs (but getting expensive to maintain), the BMW 3 series estate I had was a disaster...three sets of experienced BMW mechanics couldn't get to the bottom if its various problems. After 3 years we got rid and I think it went to scrap less than 10yrs old.

[@adventtrooper]

I'd be asking why the nearside tyres have worn so much faster than the offside.

[@mpowa101]

My father-in-law recently brought a Peugeot 3008 hybrid, and much to his unhappy surprise, it has cost him just over £1100 to insure and just ovet £500 to tax, and for all of this he says that what he gets out of the hybrid part of the car isn't much at all. I think that I'll stick to my cheap and cheerful diesel, £30 a year tax, cheap to run, and didn't cost the earth to buy. Oh, and thank you for the video, gives yet an insight from another angle to owning and EV, and another reason not to want or own one.

[@marclaw4511]

Most expensive coffee shop ever.

[@stevekane8358]

Electric is for suckers. I will never leave my dependable, gas guzzler in a million years.

[@Ramblingpete]

Yes stick with it man fore at least 50 years 👻

[@Ramblingpete]

The price is in the name Porsche the Germans are getting there own back because of the war losers

[@trail457]

Tires didn't last long,must be from the weight of the batteries.

[@SoloRenegade]

yes, it's known that EVs wear tires faster due to their heavier weight compared to equivalent ICE cars.

[@GrumpiGrandad]

My Land Rover Had an Oils and Filters Service and It cost me £147 at my local 4x4 centre. You are paying for the name Sir, £750 is highway robbery.

[@vencibushy]

Just wait until you're hit with the resale value in few years. Nobody's gonna buy used EV's with potentially dying batteries. the numbers show the abysmal depreciation of these cars and numbers don't lie.

[@stephenhamer1702]

Depreciation is massive....

[@philipuren3857]

...checking under the car for bumps and scrapes - thats my biggest worry for an EV. Have a look under any car and see how many bumps and scratches are under the average vehicle (I worked as a mechanic for a Holden dealership for 4 years). Even cars one year old have bumps and scratches underneath - speed bumps, potholes, the occasional gutter. Given that the battery is under the floor of all EVs there's going to be a lot of tears from EV owners.

[@navelriver]

EV in for service, they plug in diagnostic machine, a bunch of green lights come on, looks good, 750 please!

[@DemiGod..]

It doubles if a light comes up red.

[@markmark5269]

5 x EVs over 8 years, have 3 at the moment, I change diff oil and their cabin filters once a year in them, 20 mins and a few bucks. PS: Not a Porsche ...

[@NeilD163]

You've paid someone £750 to look at your car and say, yep that's ok a dozen or so times 🤣🤣

[@janicecopeland9083]

Anyone that buys/lease an EV deserve everything they get. Most got them to say "I'm better than you" 🤣🤣😂😂👌👌

[@presidentxd]

Ya can't budget for stupid

[@Absaalookemensch]

They had to rotate the blinker fluid and change the filter. The prop wash was also dirty and needed the timing adjusted.

[@rogerringold616]

Need metric grid square replacement for the gps modulator resevoir.

[@Absaalookemensch]

@@rogerringold616 Is that every 12 persecs.

[@steverichdrummr]

I'm not positive, but it looks to me like besides from an underside visual check which is very important, that "check" printout is just right out of the cars computer telling the dealer everything is Ok. Likely took one minute to generate that report. just my thoughts.

[@cynicaldodgyknees6248]

I called Hyundai to book an interim service on my plug-in hybrid, gave them my details. They confirmed my model etc. and said it was over £600. When I kept pressing them to say what exactly the service entailed, they 'suddenly realised' they were quoting me for the all-electric version. Revised it to £480 but with haggling I got it down to £418. So engine with electric is cheaper to service than same car, all-electric! Oh! and it destroys front tyres! I've never been able to charge it en-route due to broken/occupied charging points so I'm going back to petrol.

[@bristolmod]

Good man!!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Never was at a shop for maintenacne since 2018. 5 EVs currently running in my company. Oh sorry: I lied. The Fiat 500E wanted a yearly service @ 155,--

[@cynicaldodgyknees6248]

Once out of warranty, I do my own servicing too.

[@13opacus]

Hydrogen and synthetic fuels are the future.

[@TheSynthnut]

It's a Porsche, the assumption is that you have deep pockets!

[@ianthomas1060]

£750 to service that? £750 for 2 tyres? Someone is doing well. Great Vid Lee!

[@neilfromclearwaterfl81]

I believe this is more due to it being a Porsche and also having the death stroke of being associated with VW rather than its being an EV. I haven't spent that much servicing my EV over the entirety of the past decade even if you include the cost of tires. I would also expect high routine maintenance fees at Lamborghini and Ferrari. No problems charging here mostly done at home using the free charging cable that came with the car. Rental agencies are reporting 500,000+ basically trouble free miles on their Tesla cars with few exceptions in the here and now and while I don't own a Tesla yet am experiencing similar in having a trouble free ownership experience. Sorry for your pain however its indeed mostly due to it being a Porsche and affiliated with VW group. Best!

[@rodolphedrolet6994]

So when is the battery core recycling charge coming ,to a bill to you

[@neilfromclearwaterfl81]

@@rodolphedrolet6994 It is a battery core credit. People are fighting over the cores since there are so many uses for them and too few to go around. EV batter cores are quite valuable and can be used for decades by other industries once they are pulled from an EV. When EV batteries do fail its often only due to a few random cells in the pack which can get replaced. FES Tools and others now make the equipment required to more easily open up the seals on the packs to more quickly replace those few faulty cells. Even once they have totally failed they are reduced to black matter which is cheaper to refine into new batteries that mining new ore. Best!

[@jackcarter66]

NEVER buy tyres from a main dealer 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Badge1122]

I will keep my 16 year old Chevy.

[@tompas11A3n52KkX]

And I keep my 35 year old Volvo 740 estate wagon.

[@johnpatrick1588]

Now it seems the only places to get service for electric autos are the dealers. The most expensive places to do so plus the monopoly power grows reducing service and raising costs.

[@caitlyn9391]

I don't want are trust getting an eV. There is no way to charge at home. Also all the fires and short range. I'll wait to see how the new hydrogen cars work out

[@waynehewett4017]

You hear about the tesla driver who scrapped the battery shield a bit , took it in to get repaired and got handed a 60 grand bill as they stated the battery could be damaged Yes the car was scrapped So much for recycling and saving the planet?

[@colinnicols5387]

Here in Vancouver area an ionic had the exact same issue.

[@waynejohnson3425]

My grandmother used to say a fool and their money is soon parted

[@amarkendale2230]

Switzerland is banning electric vehicles as a way to control power consumption to prevent blackouts. Switzerland relies heavily on hydropower to meet its energy needs, with 60 percent of the country's electricity coming from hydropower.

[@stephenkalatucka6213]

All those hills, mountains. You'd go about 5 miles and need a recharge.

[@Wannes_]

They're not banning the cars themselves, they may ban using / charging them at times.

[@johncatto5019]

This has done NOTHING to encourage me to buy an electric car. For the money he paid I would expect a new car, not just a service.

[@darby5987]

In addition to your observations: EVs are not only expensive - they are "gas" guzzlers. Your Taycan weighs in, on average, at 4,700 lbs (it can go as high as 5,300 lbs). A 2023 Porsche 911 gasoline powered vehicle weighs in at, again on average, 3,200 lbs (it can go as high as 3,500 lbs). That means you have to accelerate an additional 1,500 lbs over the gasoline powered 911. For comparison, a 1965 VW Beetle weighs 1,600 lbs. This means, for Porsche to go from the 911 gasoline powered car to a similar but all electric car they had to smash a 1965 VW Beetle flat and hang it under a 911 and name it the Porsche Taycan (pronounced "tin can" to remind the owner of the smashed Bug under the floor). The Taycan owner now has to power a Porsche 911 and a VW Bug in order to be eco-friendly. Very cute, yes? Last time I checked F=MA still applies to EVs (thank you Sir Isaac). A 4,700 lb "M" EV Taycan needs ~40% more force "F" to accelerate "A" to the same speed as a 911. That force comes from fuel and electricity that does not fall freely from Heaven. Somewhere, someone has to burn 40% more fuel to generate the electricity for that acceleration. There is no free lunch.

[@ChristSotos-fy4vw]

Just look at Elon Musk do you think this jack could really could design this car & build one lmao good luck to all the idiots who are buying into this crap

[@timbrown9305]

Darby 5987 -The efficiency from battery to wheels vs. gas to wheels is also relevant information which you need to include in order to make a non biased judgement. Your right so far but you can't just stop there.

[@Benzknees]

Porsche didn't get to be the most profitable luxury car company in the world by providing value for money.

[@pauldiab944]

I didn't see them list the Vaseline used on the price list, or did they just go in there dry?

[@Rockinthehill]

Turns out that most folks range anxiety is not just a non issue. They are way more expensive, more expensive to repair, not enough charging stations that work and will leave you stranded if you dont constantly watch your range ALL THE TIME. Screw that.