How To Beat Dragunov In Tekken 8

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

How to beat Dragunov: Step 1: Nerf Devil Jin

[@ARR409]

Two options to beat him: 1. Opponent had terrible fundamentals. 2. You lose.

[@P-BATEMEN]

RL IDK WHY THEY GAVE HIM HATCHET AND SNEAK 4 FOR EVERY SINGLE MOVE.EVEN IF A 9 YR OLD TRYS TEKKEN AND HE GOES FOR DRAG HE CAN WIN 80% OF THE TIME

[@flexfam9791]

KEEP THESE HOW TO BEAT GUIDES COMING..THEY GOT ME COMING

[@AOTOM382]

I think it's important to mention that SSR duck is an incredible option if you know the timing that a Dragunov player will attack, like at round start or after WR2 on block (two easiest to apply situations). Especially after the nerfs to WR2 frames allowing you to step more freely, it's an INCREDIBLY important thing to implement in the matchup. SSR duck after WR2 will beat: D2, B43, (not B421 and the last two hits are NC), DB3+4, B21, QCF4, B3, DF14, and DF4. Dragunov can do 1 jab, another WR2 (both this and b1+2 clip you often if you don't walk), uf4, or df3+4. Also the timing seems to be harder depending on the character; especially df14 can be very tricky; so you might need to SWR duck which is a bit harder but much more consistent. (This cannot be performed by Jack and Bears). Some other things: Always step his SNK4 to the right after FCDF14 on hit, don't let Dragunov players get away with this. He should get launched for autopiloting this and should be forced to use his unsafe 2, 3, and 1+2 options to track you. If you find stepping the SNK4 too hard, you can parry. Mashing i11 is also possible, but this will get CH by the slide unlike parry. Step left beats both WS3 and FCDF14 after SNK4 on block (if you are at the wall and can't backdash). Implement SSL duck if the Dragunov does FF3 to track you. Downjab is amazing against the B421 and B42 > SNK mixup. You will go under the high and counterhit any stance option. This actually interrupts the SNK4 and SNK3 mixup even ON HIT. He can just finish the string and it will hit you, but the last hit will NOT get its counterhit +14 property. Obviously Dragunov can just stop at B42 and low parry your downjab of course. Nonetheless combining all this stuff into your layer 1 strategy against Dragunov along with good throw breaks makes the character free rank points online.

[@willywonka2808]

Little something that might have been missed by some people since it was not said orally : after the heat smash the tackle is i26 instead of i40, so good luck reacting to that one

[@davidchan4996]

I would simply use Clive to beat him.

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

"I'LL COME"

[@foreal7712]

I use Dragunov to beat Clive

[@Leonplays868]

Dragunov destroys Clive

[@VamosLa.]

Mah prominence

[@gao_expert]

Just press b+3 to dodge Drag

[@michaelpacheco6549]

9:30 I’ve legit won full sets and have hours of clips where people for some reason mash after getting hit by this string. +5 on hit and I just loop it bc people are too stupid to block online lmao I have clips of people getting ch by this string 4-5x in a row.

[@DannyBob08]

If it is the only thing u do, it is the only thing the other player will eat... i imagine all the spammers lauging in their rooms like maniacs "hahaha it hit him again" ... ofc it did, if its the only thing u r spamming, ofc its going to hit more than once... 😒

[@froggytimbers]

@@DannyBob08 I refuse to believe this comment isn't satire lol

[@DannyBob08]

@@froggytimbers I was not trying to hide the satire. Satire is the least they deserve...

[@erk489]

This game has just become Clive the game since his release. I’d say 95 percent of all my matches are now against him. It’s crazy really, no other dlc character release has been this extreme as to how many people picked those characters. They for sure made huge profits from him.

[@syninsynin3493]

This video about to be the most watched on your channel mainman lol

[@airbournecow]

Definitely a fan of these videos

[@usmansubhani7482]

1:00 I use my Victor’s armoured for that every single time.

[@kleinerradius6053]

Conclusion: Nerf DVJ, his hellsweep still launches opponents

[@magliochettti_tk4233]

DB2 is still my favorite string to abuse cuz no one else uses it and its a 120+ damage combo starter on counter hit, all hits delayable

[@Harry-Bucket]

Thank you once again Bro, these videos are very helpful.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

Drag's running 2 should just by default on block push both characters back to create a more fair distance. if the hitbox was large, and should not track to your right, which is the dumbest thing ever.

[@Lightness220]

When I heard TMM say "Its a a fast snake edge at 27 frames" I got Vietnam flashbacks to Victors 18 Frame Snake Edge that blows every single snake edge, including Jins Scourge, out of the water by a wide margin. Its insane how OP that move is. Victors Snake Edge has range up to the moon and on Counter hit it leads to a full combo instead of a tailspin like Dragunov, Jin and Bryan. Fucking bonkers.

[@ThaTim_1]

Are you trolling? Dragunovs snake edge is normal hit launcher. 27 frames is reactable, but certainly great cheese at beginner level ranks. Victors snake edge needs you to press button that hits high. It's not homing, its launch punishable on block. While jin has the same properties but also can evade mids, and its fucking HOMING. If you are lucky enough to block it, it NOT LAUNCH PUNISHABLE ON BLOCK. Yes its insta screw, but damage is still comparable. With easy electric its 80 damage without any resources. My god I'm sick of top tier downplayers!

[@CosmicVoid420]

Victor db4 isnt a snake edge. Snake edge is a low that launches on normal hit and is usually slow. Like 26 frames or more.

[@Lightness220]

@@ThaTim_1 I am not downplaying Top Tiers dude. Jin isnt top tier just because of scourge. Scourge is a good move and it adds to Jins arsenal of moves that make him top tier, but in matters of snake edges or whatever you may call them I think Victor has the "edge" (wink wink) on him and other popular ones like Drag and Bryan. My initial comment was only about snake edges everything else is your headcanon. Also it aint that serious fam get that triggered attitude outta here.

[@Lightness220]

@@CosmicVoid420 Oh I didnt know that. I just thought every slow launching low was a snake edge whether its a CH launcher or not. Well now I know thanks for clearing it up. My point still stands tho. Victors might only launch on CH but its still 18 frames which is absolutely bonkers.

[@tristentamatea4325]

Snake edge is a low normal hit launcher so that doesn't apply. It is however op.

[@Evaded-nm7sr]

Idk drag isnt ruining my experience anymore. I hoped for a video about nina or xiaoyu instead. But still appreciate the work ty

[@sylehu7056]

I have been waiting for this one😊

[@Lay_rue442]

Can we get one of these guides for Feng next?

[@meysamsamadi7587]

Yeah man. Gotta represent the counter play. Throws off their Unga bunga flowchart

[@aura6958]

I think out of all of the Top 3 I struggle with Nina the most.

[@jinsof]

This is the problem with tekken, the devs try to make the game more accessible to beginners by making it easy to play certain characters, but then you have to take a masters degree to defend against it all, so it's not really more accessible at all.

[@gogetalegends9839]

I need a Nina and xaioyu one

[@gjisahappytoad9408]

Next video: How to lift 400 pounds with 1 finger while driving a car and maintaining exactly 100 mph for 20 minutes.

[@revealeddarkness]

Please make a video to counter the actual OP characters now a days (Nina, Yoshi, Panda[TWT Winner], Hwoarang) which have way better pressure than Dragunov, stop milking this idea that Dragunov is OP. He was OP, now he isn't that much, and TWT was the demonstration for that.

[@zBlackyz]

Drag is still stupid OP, tmm shows it in the videos if you watch closely, other characters will follow like he said on the start of the series

[@ThaTim_1]

@@revealeddarkness demonstration that we have dragunov in grand finals of the twt finals? Matches were insane and could go either way. It was not one sided at all for you to consider that the bears are the new meta now at the pro play. Yoshi, Nina are stronger chars than drag. But Rangchu won twt final because he is just better player. Cut the downplay please.

[@Zagryzaec]

Dragunov needs serious buffs to be on level of other characters. People are so biased.

[@Zagryzaec]

The amount of unfairness toward Dragunov is honestly atrocious.

[@silencerx1682]

how do you toe kick?

[@ShizuoHeiwa]

When you’re on the ground press 3 or X if you’re on ps5

[@twary1911]

@@ShizuoHeiwa you also gotta press down, doing 3 by its own will just do the low get up kick

[@KoufalKoufax]

i just want them to nerf his heat smash, that move needs to not continue after blocking the first hit or whiffing the first hit. every dragunov would just use that to get off the wall or push you to the wall EZiest wall carry/wall escape ever

[@austinWEEDable]

11 frame throws wont beat my ten frame blue spark giant swing king on top

[@Kemosabe-R0M0]

Lol. “Time to start blocking”.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

can you do a full analysis on Lars playing *as* him and *against* him? I want people to really understand where Lars actually stands amongst the roster so the community can stop with the fictional based opinions they have.

[@TheNightofWalpurgis666]

Play a bear. You might win again him. Maybe..

[@Cartillax]

thank god

[@og_mante5138]

How to beat Dragonuv = Don’t get hit

[@tetraocean]

keep going that stuff, good to know.

[@funkrates4778]

Mainman on leverless now. 🤔

[@branbelmont326]

just for the sponsored vid

[@mohammedriadh4990]

I don't think he needs more nerf, tho if he got nerf it will probably be ignition switch (qcf4) no longer hit grounded, other than he's pretty balanced compared a year ago

[@8SillySerpant2005]

True

[@vlastermaster]

there are plenty of characters stronger than dragunov atm, i agree if they nerf his damage in some combos and probably sneak 4 no plus frames but safe. People tend to play 2d against dragunov and tend to press where they shouldnt and dragunov actually has kinda shitty homings and since b43 has been nerfed hes even weaker to SS now. If you step his running 2 he is pretty much dead if you know the proper whiff punisher and combo there, the same with sneak 4 is also steppable and in case they delay the timing of those they only hit you on normal hit.

[@DannyBob08]

QCF4 needs to be erased. After that he will be balanced, he would still be one of the strongest chars.

[@KoufalKoufax]

@@vlastermaster because its hard to play 3d against him since he has a lot of option against SSL and SSR Sneak4 SSR is super strict.

[@HCG-FGC]

@@KoufalKoufax It's not strict, snk just realligns. So the only times you can't sidestep it is if the Dragunov purposefully (or completely by accident) delays/prolongs the input.

[@EligosIV]

Meanwhile, Azucena is unplayable smh

[@frblaze2]

Dragunov is not that strong in mid tier players... Gotta stop using tier lists to describe only the Tekken god +

[@ibyzzo]

buff lars

[@revealeddarkness]

Proceeds to demonstrate that Dragunov can be interrupted, or counter hit after nearly every advantageous situation that he is in, while narrating the character as OP. Got it.🤣😂

[@OMGitsZenius]

Dragunov main spotted

[@greedy_arts3807]

So basically a character for losers? Gotcha

[@Tayate_]

A little late buddy

[@sergeykushyan9857]

Fast snake edge is crazy 😂

[@underdogart]

Riyal ❤️

[@josephbenson3012]

Yall want dragunov nerfed into the ground 😂 he don't need no more nerfs

[@HCG-FGC]

He says "there's not nearly enough counterplay to this stuff" and does linear moves, lol

[@arpadszabo661]

Its like an impossible challenge for people to not act like every Dragunov player they play against is using him to the same extent as top 8 tournament players do… Not like Dragunov players are winning anymore.

[@michaelpacheco6549]

@@arpadszabo661based. Meanwhile they’re also sitting here using Nina, yoshi, and Jin and coping lol

[@kato093]

I would be ok with nerfs if they buff him in other aspects that make him better overall to play. Like he has AWFUL range. Its crazy to me how QCF4, with the QCF movement, has less range than tons of simple ff moves like Jin's FF2. Wr2 needs to be +5 at least. +4 is garbage for dragunov, which is also a big issue because it forces dragunov to chain different moves for plush frames because he gets NOTHING out of them. So dragunov gets nothing (blue spark wr2 is like what, 2-3 chip damage? Wtf is even the point? Jin gets more chip damage with a jab) and the opponentnis scared to press because they respect the frames (big hint: don't respect dragunov. He has nothing scary about him. Dragunov has to expose himself like crazy and risk a launch if he wants to get anything out if his frames). The way he is now, it's just annoying and a waste of timenfir both players. I would buff FC DF1,4 with a CH splat into something like at launch. Also, the frames. Because right now, he has nothing against sidesteps and dick jabs, which beat everything he has. he used to have tracking grabs with ff1+2. Unless they remove ALL forced 50/50s from the game with the big S2 patch. If they do that, he should just get a buff to CD 3+4 and qcf3+4, the most useless and least used move for Dragunov. Ive never seen anyone use it, ever. Make it more safe at -10, do more damage, homing and +10 on hit, mini launch on CH with a d3,2,1+2 or d4,1,3, for around 45-48 damage. D1 on hit should lead to a crouch grab, alongside B4,2 on CH (while making it more obvious). Buff the tackle in heat. Right now, dragunov's heat is garbage,like lee's and a few others. Unless they nerf heat for everyone, dragunov needs better heat gimmicks like everyone else. Idk... Maybe make blue spark wr2 a launch on normal hit while in heat? He isn't NEARLY as scary as everyone else while in heat. All the danger comes from heat dash out of B4,3, QCF4 and the heat smash, which is one if the weakest ones due to linear it is. Other than that, heat is useless. Just like lee's heat is used only as launch for ws 2,3. I don't get all the complaints over his damage as well. He has below average combo damage, becoming just slightly above average when he gets wr4 at the wall. Kind a crazy that people complain so much about dragunov when yoshi and Nina get higher damage on all hits. They just do more damage overall. Heihachi has just damage from another game entirely. Clive gets 80 with 5 hits from a simple launch. The only problem with dragunov is that he lacks a bit of an identity. He is QCF4 now. That is dragunov right now. Remove the move and he crumbles. Db 3+4 is also way too - on block. Like wtf...why that exception? Make it -18 to -20. It's such a weird thing for such an underwhelming move. It's as if it launches and has crazy range. Just make it like Bryan's hatchet. Make it a big plus 5 on hit move with decent range and tracking, knockdown on CH, like -13 on block. But nah, dragunov's hatchet must be -82 on block (-31), half the range, same damage, only +3 instead of +5. A slower move, with half the range, same damage, 2 less frames on hit and one is only -13 and the other is -31, a launch from ANYTHING. And yet people complain. Because " he doesn't need it" lol. Because he can survive with d2 like in Tekken 7? The bottom 3 worst characters? He was just as hated in Tekken 7 while being a trash tier character. Let's be honest, they just want him gone from the game for some reason. It's usually players that use gimmicky trash as well. Your average Asuka, Alisa, Kuma, yoshi, Nina players hate dragunov the most.

[@sibtainahmed3026]

He do need more nerfs to his ground hitting bullshit

[@yasinstyl3r427]

Lmao just today i started maining drag and tmm drops this video

[@trey.b.17]

nerfs can’t even beat dragunov 😂

[@gasinthecar]

no views 12 seconds bro fell off

[@Blank-me9hb]

Pleaaase make Xiaoyu (if you can)

[@carldalord]

Bryan

[@zayedsaif3367]

First , do ppl still do this

[@SouperMan-rm7gu]

you can't

[@Dee1xp]

How to beat dragunov 1. You can’t

[@logicgaming7976]

Real

[@Sol_XVII]

38 seconds to slow

[@borisholivud]

delete this

[@Nocto3827]

Can you delete this please?