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Top 10 Most Broken Green Cards of All Time

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@jonart8433
@jonart8433 Жыл бұрын
You missed the real best green card Colossal Dreadmaw.
@joshbailey7775
@joshbailey7775 Жыл бұрын
You mean colossal GOATmaw
@jameswinslow8540
@jameswinslow8540 Жыл бұрын
You mean tree elemental
@sparkyanimations213
@sparkyanimations213 Жыл бұрын
Colossal Jin Gitaxias
@michaelcollins4534
@michaelcollins4534 Жыл бұрын
Ruined standard 🙄
@seelentau
@seelentau Жыл бұрын
You spelt Krosan Cloudscraper wrong
@ripvanwinkle9648
@ripvanwinkle9648 Жыл бұрын
Many years back, I had a pal who bought a Black Lotus just so he could try to pull off the infamous Channel Fireball turn one kill. After many failed attempts, during a match with me, he finally got the combo and a massive grin spread across his face. He sacked the Lotus for three green Mana, cast Channel and spent 19 life, tapped his Mountain, stood up and threw the Fireball onto the table saying something like "There it is! Boom baby, BOOM!". The problem was that I had gone first and had one Plains in play. I calmly tapped my Plains . . . and cast Heal. Heal prevents one measly point of damage. This is a card that no one plays, but I liked it since it replaced itself at the beginning of the next upkeep. We were both at one life. I ended up winning that game. Poor guy was livid. He sold the Black Lotus a few days later.
@Jacois
@Jacois 4 ай бұрын
You're a monster.
@ceronmachtdinge
@ceronmachtdinge 3 ай бұрын
I had a similar interaction in a tournament some 30 years ago. My opponent played Cadaverous Bloom Combo, a deck which revolved around sacrificing your life total to gain mana, even going negative, to later cast the only drain life in the deck to kill your opponent and get your life back. Back then, you lost when your life was below 1 at the end of the phase, not immediately, so you could actually go negative and live. I played some janky counterburn deck, he went off at turn three, with me having tapped one mountain, and one island untapped. As he went through his deck, certain his combo would end the game, he went something like: "Any last words?" I just tapped my Island, said "hehe, boo?" and cast Disrupt, countering his drain life because he put all his mana in the spell and leaving him in his -12 life debt. I went 2-4 that evening but I left the store with a hearty smile and happy memories.
@samuraichicken9248
@samuraichicken9248 Ай бұрын
This TOTALLY happened.
@randommaster06
@randommaster06 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention to Deathrite Shaman for being a one-mana planeswalker.
@zilkay6558
@zilkay6558 Жыл бұрын
He's technically not green because of the hybrid mama cost, although I wholeheartedly agree with your comment
@randommaster06
@randommaster06 Жыл бұрын
@@zilkay6558 I'll do you one better. DRS was almost always cast with black mana. It's barely even a green card.
@Darkorinth1
@Darkorinth1 Жыл бұрын
I remember a multiplayer game (this was years before commander) that included a guy that refused to accept Fastbond had any errata or rulings and only the printed text on the card. He claimed that by itself it let him play Stripmine from his graveyard every turn, including his opponent's turns. We responded by refusing to accept he was still in the game.
@theemathas
@theemathas Жыл бұрын
There are also infinite combos you could do with Fastbond. For example, with "Oboro, Palace in the Clouds", and a Ruin Crab, you can mill the opponent equal to three times your life, which is often enough to win the game.
@maxastro
@maxastro Жыл бұрын
I was going to say "don't you mean Hedron Crab?" but wow, I didn't realize that card got a different-name reprint. XD I have a deck that relies on Hedron Crab, I should totally fit in some Ruin Crabs also to up the consistency...
@Nemissis4265
@Nemissis4265 Жыл бұрын
Thats calld a bounce land 😂😂😂😂 about 50cents there are 6 of them
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye Жыл бұрын
What's a fastbound?
@tomcleaver6686
@tomcleaver6686 Жыл бұрын
It's fastBOND, not fastBOUND
@darthsatan4841
@darthsatan4841 Жыл бұрын
Where the hell ypu even get that?
@NobleAbsinthe
@NobleAbsinthe Жыл бұрын
@@darthsatan4841 read the card
@ericcox970
@ericcox970 6 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing like what the heck are they saying it wrong on purpose?
@DickNiaz26
@DickNiaz26 3 ай бұрын
Thank God somebody heard this. I think the narrator's "stuff-nosed" voice doesn't help either.
@DickNiaz26
@DickNiaz26 3 ай бұрын
@@darthsatan4841 Because "b" + "o" + "n" + "d" spell an actual word: Bond. Like stocks and bonds.
@golrakklestuff6861
@golrakklestuff6861 Жыл бұрын
Really surprised to not see tarmogoyf, considered for a long time to be the best creature in the game...
@ARocha1990
@ARocha1990 5 ай бұрын
Green is so strong that Goyf is just “good” in the color.
@jenniferwilliams9612
@jenniferwilliams9612 Жыл бұрын
Damn! This is the second time that you guys have pulled the Summer Magic version of a card for a video. That Fastbond was from Summer Magic, as was a Contract From Below on a prior video! Those are the most rare version (by a mile) of those cards! It is interesting to see them!
@corey2232
@corey2232 Жыл бұрын
I get mispronouncing crazy fantasy names, but when a card's name is made up of just 2 basic words like "Fast" and "Bond," how can you mess that up? 😂
@craigstuckey319
@craigstuckey319 Жыл бұрын
On purpose for engagement. Duh.
@SgtImrak93
@SgtImrak93 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure its done intentionally since theres no way you can make that egregious of a mistake.
@Graatand
@Graatand Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. Famous fictional MI6 agent James Bound.
@thatguyintherain3168
@thatguyintherain3168 Жыл бұрын
Wait until you hear him say Necropotence...by the rules of English, he isnt wrong but it sounds so unnatural.
@craigstuckey319
@craigstuckey319 Жыл бұрын
@@thatguyintherain3168 oh I've heard....unfortunately......
@marcuscarty2753
@marcuscarty2753 Жыл бұрын
The name's bound...fast bound...I thought "Jaumes" was too weird so I had my first name legally changed.
@ElliotButch23
@ElliotButch23 Жыл бұрын
Birthing Pod was banned years before the Devoted Druid combo was a thing. It was banned because it restricted future creature design and was the most played deck. It would be fair It stayed ban because of combos like Devoted Druid
@codymcdonald1234
@codymcdonald1234 11 ай бұрын
The two popular pod combos were melira and some were still playing kiki. By the time pod was banned in modern though the deck was no longer bothering with the combo and just rhinoed people to death.
@sheldonamosiii9443
@sheldonamosiii9443 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say one of my all time favorite green cards of all time is Craterhoof Behemoth, I remember years ago when I saw it in action I was determined to have it. Still use it when I can
@gabrielesquaratti5709
@gabrielesquaratti5709 Жыл бұрын
you missed a quite powerful library
@Jacois
@Jacois 4 ай бұрын
agreed
@august3149
@august3149 2 ай бұрын
You wake up. It’s 2024. Trump is president. Commander and magic are one and the same. Deathrite isn’t green
@WUZLE
@WUZLE 7 ай бұрын
"Green has been a powerful color since the start of Magic." As someone who played almost from the the start, there was a long, LONG period where Green was so bad that it was joked that Magic had only four colors. Go back and play Shandalar and see how many Green cards you're playing by the end of the game.
@brentsmith5604
@brentsmith5604 5 ай бұрын
Just did yesterday. Rushed Whirling Dervishes to cheese black enemies and went straight for Ernham Djinns after that. Gotta do something besides hypnotic specters and Contract From Below sometimes.
@IceboxOG
@IceboxOG Жыл бұрын
Expected channel over fastbond, interesting choice
@christopherfu2169
@christopherfu2169 Жыл бұрын
Before watching, some cards I expect to be on the list: The Great Henge and Questing Beast.
@NateBullock-ow6on
@NateBullock-ow6on Жыл бұрын
I know right awesome cards!
@theemathas
@theemathas Жыл бұрын
You misunderstood the reason Survival Of The Fittest is powerful. If you have Survival in play with 3 green mana, and have Vengevine in hand, you can discard the Vengevine to grab a second Vengevine. Discard that to grab a Rootwalla. Discard that (and casting it) to grab a Hollow One. Then cast Hollow One for free, getting back two Vengevines. This gives you a total of 13 power. And for each extra green mana you have to spare, you can get an extra Vengevine.
@alecazam6755
@alecazam6755 Жыл бұрын
It was good for the reasons he listed even before that niche was made. It's similar to Earthcraft and Fastbond in the "really broken card on its own or in combos" category
@dark_rit
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
The reason survival was broken eventually was vengevine and other graveyard based combo's coming about. On top of it all it's a 1 card combo, most combo's need multiple specific cards while survival does not it just needs mana and a starting creature to discard though that isn't really a requirement as survival decks are creature dense.
@akaqueequeg
@akaqueequeg Жыл бұрын
Back in the day there was a deck called black pudding, based off a previous version called full English breakfast. You would pay 1 green to SOTF to search for phage the untouchable, then dump that into the graveyard to get Volrath's shapeshifter then cast that, attack next turn for the win. It's not the combo that ever made SOTF powerful it's the fact it can toolbox an answer for any situation for 1 green mana and THEN combo then you opponent has been depleted.
@JD-gk7eh
@JD-gk7eh Жыл бұрын
The easiest way to explain it: it's an Entomb you can use as many times as you want.
@jormungardwe
@jormungardwe Жыл бұрын
That is one form of seeing as it was banned not long after vengevine was released, but the reason for the ban was not the 1 shot potential of the combo but the Ability to combo while searching for anything that you need, many times it was just discard a dork find a rec sage, wins next turn.
@mchild80
@mchild80 Жыл бұрын
Love the list, but it's really weird to see a strongest Green card list that doesn't have Primeval Titan or Sylvan Library
@NotSoSerious69420
@NotSoSerious69420 Жыл бұрын
Because they aren’t broken. Not really anyway. They’re incredibly good value no doubt but wouldn’t say broken.
@MekanikKommandoh88
@MekanikKommandoh88 Жыл бұрын
Most of these cards have been banned from competitive formats, whereas these two have not.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Жыл бұрын
​@HossPower There's a pretty strong argument for banning titan.
@mchild80
@mchild80 Жыл бұрын
@@MekanikKommandoh88 I can agree with that statement. Let me ask this, how do you feel about Green Sun Zenith and Glimpse of Nature
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Жыл бұрын
Sylvan Library over Earthcraft tbh
@andreaswehrmann365
@andreaswehrmann365 8 ай бұрын
The artwork of 'Once Upon A Time' is so beautiful!
@alecazam6755
@alecazam6755 Жыл бұрын
An alarming number of these are two drops from Tempest block....
@Hmongboi228
@Hmongboi228 Жыл бұрын
Another "balanced" card out of the Urza's block.. 💡😉🤝👍 🤣🤣🤣
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy Жыл бұрын
Fastbond and Channel are so busted, a friend of mine has a deck that's just Rat Turbo. Turn one he'll use cards to get out Thrumming Stone and then Relentless Rats to just flood his board with 20+ rats, and those two are key parts of the combo. I've even seen him win ON turn 1 by doing that, then dropping a Biorhythm before anyone else even got a turn. Most people didn't want to play against him after that.
@theemathas
@theemathas Жыл бұрын
FYI, biorhythm is banned in commander
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy
@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy Жыл бұрын
@@theemathas It's not a Commander deck, it's Vintage.
@T4N7
@T4N7 Жыл бұрын
Y do u keep saying "Fastbound" when the card is called "Fastbond" like "James Bond"?
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Жыл бұрын
Because his mother did hardcore drugs while he was in the womb
@roercula8425
@roercula8425 Жыл бұрын
Waiiiiit arent you the duellogs guy? I remembered you making a video where you reviewed magic cards and you didnt knew anything about the game. I am happy that you seem to like the game.
@spliterator1981
@spliterator1981 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure someone else writes the script. Duel logs just reads and maybe edits.
@marshallwilver8831
@marshallwilver8831 Жыл бұрын
Brother the way you pronounce fastbond was making my eye twitch. Jokes aside. Love the content. Keep it up my dude!
@msblackoozaru
@msblackoozaru Жыл бұрын
i would love to see a top10 fun cards to play that flooped in competitive
@NicoloRisso
@NicoloRisso Жыл бұрын
The top10 overhyped cards for competitive would be fun
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
​@@NicoloRisso There is one already. Search "Top 10 Cards that Ended Up Being Huge Flops in Mtg"
@Goten40373
@Goten40373 Жыл бұрын
nice list. i would try 1 also without banned cards to. cause could then c cards like Tarmogoyf and whats considered fair play atleast now
@nathannjh
@nathannjh Жыл бұрын
It depends on your definition of banned. These cards are playable in vintage.
@Goten40373
@Goten40373 Жыл бұрын
@@nathannjh well yeah vintage allows them mostly as restricted. banned as in like modern/legacy/standard since those are the most played formats
@zirilan3398
@zirilan3398 Жыл бұрын
as sad as it sounds but I don`t think Goyf would make the cut nowadays@@Goten40373
@calemr
@calemr Жыл бұрын
Predictions: Pod. Zenith. Once Upon a Time. And a bunch of stuff from before my time like Channel.
@banjokatooie
@banjokatooie Жыл бұрын
Eureka not making the list, sad :(
@PendelSteven
@PendelSteven Жыл бұрын
Birthing Pod is an interesting card, since it is legal in Legacy & Vintage.... It isn't played. Too powerful for Modern, too weak for Legacy? Or can we unban it so it will be played? You're incorrect why it was banned. It was used for getting Melira and Kitchen Finks. The Devoted Druid combo didn't even exist after Pod was banned. At 2:04 the text says that Legacy banned card Earthcraft is legal in said format. Another mistake.
@Retrowaveresearch
@Retrowaveresearch 4 ай бұрын
i am somewhat surprised you didn't mention zuran orc x fast bond x crucible of worlds or any of those play land from graveyard
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Жыл бұрын
People arguing Protean Hulk being the problem over Flash don't understand the concept of banning cards. Flash is the enabler. As long as it's around, all cards have to be designed with it in mind and designed around it. Thus it's better to ban that card. It's the same logic behind another banned card that was probably close to making this list, Green Sun's Zenith.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Жыл бұрын
There's also an absolutely massive, Atraxa-shaped problem with unbanning Flash lmao.
@xana3961
@xana3961 Жыл бұрын
@@danlorett2184 Aint that a mood, lol
@haydenstockwell252
@haydenstockwell252 4 ай бұрын
Why did the text say Earthcraft is legal in Legacy?
@OHYisWatching
@OHYisWatching Жыл бұрын
new drinking game, take a shot everytime he spells fastbond as fastBOUND
@Goten40373
@Goten40373 Жыл бұрын
i would also suggest title to be mono green. cause u could put an argument for a multicolored green card like deathrite shaman to be on this list
@thatguymatt5816
@thatguymatt5816 Жыл бұрын
Dude. Fast BOND. not bound. What the hell is happening?
@TheDustyPeaches
@TheDustyPeaches Жыл бұрын
I think it is a waste not to mention Protean Hulk had a turn zero win deck so your opponent would not even start their first turn before they died and that was when they were to play first.
@renewagain6956
@renewagain6956 Жыл бұрын
I once pulled off that combo on MTGO when it was new. ... My opponent sincerely asked me if I hacked the game somehow. I didn't blame him, lol. 😅
@jasonliang2932
@jasonliang2932 Жыл бұрын
No Veil of Summer? :D Cards I would have considered are Natural Order, Scapeshift, Crop Rotation, Life from the Loam, Green Sun's Zenith, Collector Ouphe and Argothian Enchantress.
@names_are.uselessyt7908
@names_are.uselessyt7908 Жыл бұрын
earthcraft & grave troll should switch positions & food chain blows birthing pod away. i'm glad you recognized Channel & fastbond. when i saw the title i was totally ready to say anyone who doesn't know about Channels power doesn't know anything about m:tg
@claysmolding7792
@claysmolding7792 Жыл бұрын
Ok but my favorite part about your videos is listening to how you mispronounce everything so eloquently like lol fastbound was too funny
@Jacois
@Jacois 4 ай бұрын
I had to pause the video and make a comment I was so aggravated... lol
@Hammers_Peace
@Hammers_Peace Жыл бұрын
How much mana does it take to pass customs
@aristizle8797
@aristizle8797 Жыл бұрын
I played the old Channel-Fireball deck back around 4th addition. I was today years old when I fully grokked the Channel Fireball store name. I played that cheat deck within 10 miles of the store.
@AwakenedAvocado
@AwakenedAvocado Жыл бұрын
I still play 99 lightning bolt and 1 mountain
@andygoody2599
@andygoody2599 Жыл бұрын
You never showed the card Fast-Bound though!
@haryadisuryonoto1118
@haryadisuryonoto1118 Жыл бұрын
I remember the different art for Channel and Fireball cards 😂the old man raising his hands and a giant yellow ball.
@izme1000
@izme1000 Жыл бұрын
When a 2 card infinite combo is only #9 on the list.
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: you should give points for when cards got banned.
@dissipation
@dissipation Жыл бұрын
Flash is busted in many other ways - since etbs can be so strong - one simple use would be using it with something like woodfall primus destroys two permanents for 2 mana or a primeval titan. Meanwhile protean hulk is pretty useless if flash is banned. It's easier to ban flash rather than rebalance every ETB if flash is in the game
@jordonbrown9762
@jordonbrown9762 Жыл бұрын
What about Seedborn Muse?
@jameshonaker585
@jameshonaker585 Жыл бұрын
This list is...interesting, but I would not say it's all that good. There are several omissions that stand out to me, such as Green Sun's Zenith, Glimpse of Nature, Sylvan Library, Worldly Tutor, Eureka, Hypergenesis, and Natural Order. Even Crop Rotation, or Beast Within which are deceptively powerful for how simple they are, would make for reasonable inclusions.
@DJFracus
@DJFracus Жыл бұрын
over half the cards you listed are not even banned in modern+ power level formats lol they can't be on a list like this
@jameshonaker585
@jameshonaker585 Жыл бұрын
@@DJFracus Protean Hulk is not banned n any such format, so that hardly seems like a qualifier.
@Faithful_Solaire
@Faithful_Solaire 5 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised by this video, green has always been in my top five calorie colors
@itsfort2098
@itsfort2098 Жыл бұрын
I really wanna see a failed mechanic with the Mutate stuff
@cream3148
@cream3148 Жыл бұрын
As a legacy player, definitely don’t unban flash. Protean hulk is pretty balanced and flash is just the broken enabler.
@therealsilverking4802
@therealsilverking4802 Жыл бұрын
08:47 I always thought Jason Momoa would be a Blue Card
@bertilandersson6606
@bertilandersson6606 Жыл бұрын
no crop rotation?
@DeCode343
@DeCode343 6 ай бұрын
Earthcraft is worded bad, that should never have been a loop, or be able to get get around summoning sickness alone. That it does is somewhat hard to process. Even with the card you should only be able to tap creatures that are yet able to tap.
@livingroomviewing2987
@livingroomviewing2987 Жыл бұрын
Bound. James Bound.
@Spaztastiq
@Spaztastiq Жыл бұрын
Natural Order and Tooth and Nail, at least in EDH, are the two most broken green cards.
@jormungardwe
@jormungardwe Жыл бұрын
One day I will get that Survival of the Fittest foil.
@jormungardwe
@jormungardwe Жыл бұрын
Just that life from the loam is the only dredge card that is played for it's intended purpose
@kennethmarkwith4678
@kennethmarkwith4678 Жыл бұрын
What?! No Eternal Witness? Lol im sure if this video was made 10 years ago Tarmogoyf would've made the cut. EWit is just my favorite creature ever printed. Being serious though, Glimpse of Nature should probably be on this list somewhere
@zirilan3398
@zirilan3398 Жыл бұрын
You can make an argument for Glimpse instead of Once upon a Time but one could also argue to put Force of Vigor or Endurance in that spot instead
@jasonandkathleenbarker6306
@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 Жыл бұрын
Floral Spuzzem is self aware. Now THAT’S power.
@proxidize5738
@proxidize5738 Жыл бұрын
It has a functioning AI to help it
@shea455
@shea455 Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time can be played on the first turn of the entire game, even when that turn is not yours.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
That's barely ever relevant
@dark_rit
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
Earthcraft isn't legal in legacy, but it should be. People have wanted that card unbanned for over a decade and somehow it's still banned.
@jonbrewer297
@jonbrewer297 3 ай бұрын
"Green has been a powerful color since the early days of Magic." The early days of Magic said that was a lie. (There was Channel, Fastbond, and...not much else until Tempest block. It would take decades for green to have decent removal and thus be playable in limited.)
@bariltrailette
@bariltrailette Жыл бұрын
Channel is good with emrakul to you need 4 mana plus 19 life 2 green for channel 1 colorless mana for 1 damage and one red for fireball you need to spend minimum 2 for 1 damage and pay 19 life point for the reste of damage.
@Master00Ra
@Master00Ra Жыл бұрын
Special mention: Fog (xV)
@bariltrailette
@bariltrailette Жыл бұрын
Fastbond with landfall ability that give you life when a land enter the battle like grazing gladeheart give you infinite life and infite mana.
@Prince.Eva.Huepow
@Prince.Eva.Huepow Жыл бұрын
What about best vanilla ice cream cards?
@crimson90
@crimson90 Жыл бұрын
FastBOND! BOND! Not BOUND! Just read it!
@darthparallax5207
@darthparallax5207 Жыл бұрын
Channel should be ranked 1 below Fastbond Golgari Grave-Troll is stronger than both of them. It presents threats faster (fewer resources required in starting hand) and it was such a consistent deck off of Serum Powder that you only needed Bazaar to go off. It went manaless and the creatures it attacked with were often as not Bridge tokens not proper creature cards. Dredge was mainly on Green cards like Life from the Loam Shambling Shell and Grave-Troll and allowed you to reject all Green ways of doing things possibly as much as or more than Channel. And Dredge could beat Channel-Fireball. Was there another 0 cost Green card besides Grave-Troll? I don't think so. Force of Vigor? Endurance? Summoner's Pact? Hypergenesis? These are all good or banned in Modern and last I heard they don't make it in Legacy/Vintage quite the same way. Wait. Not Invigorate. Mutagenic Growth? Anyway. Survival of the Fittest and Hermit Druid are genuinely worth 2 mana. Oath of Druids makes the list too. And Protean Hulk. Birthing Pod is a turn 2 play even in Modern and easily turn 1 in Legacy its absurd. I do not know the combos for Earthcraft and I don't think OUAT being better than Worldly Tutor is good enough for this list. 10 Birthing Pod 9 Sylvan Library 8 Protean Hulk 7 Oath of Druids 6 Natural Selection 5 Hermit Druid 4 Survival of the Fittest 3 Channel 2 Fastbond 1 Golgari Grave-Troll
@darthparallax5207
@darthparallax5207 Жыл бұрын
Earthcraft is good, it makes Top 15 probably, but Top 10 is a harsh cutoff.
@troysuza2065
@troysuza2065 Жыл бұрын
"Fastbond" not "Fastbound"
@kyleharrison713
@kyleharrison713 Жыл бұрын
'Vigor' is a real piece of work also
@marcellachine5718
@marcellachine5718 Жыл бұрын
Why do you say fast bound?
@makokx7063
@makokx7063 9 ай бұрын
He purposely mispronounces words in all his videos to get people to comment.
@ArchetypeGotoh
@ArchetypeGotoh Жыл бұрын
Vivian on the Hunt sort of does the same thing as Birthing Pod, except she’s more expensive to cast outright. Love the idea though: makes the Consuming Blob ooze deck more fun :P
@philtess3126
@philtess3126 Жыл бұрын
She also has a lot less combo potential since she can only activate once per turn. During this time, pod can just find a creature who untaps artifacts on etb and keep going doing what would have taken Vivian 4-5 more turns
@zilkay6558
@zilkay6558 Жыл бұрын
Vivian can be activate multiple times in a turn as long as you have a felidar guardian in play, but that's quite restrictive and requires you to build more around Vivian in the deck and less on value pod
@platinumknight1
@platinumknight1 Жыл бұрын
Its obviously the chibaku tensei...just Turn your opponent city into a giant rock and then throw it at him like if it was a tengai shinsei
@madelynrussell2884
@madelynrussell2884 Жыл бұрын
No Glimpse of Nature?
@who_what
@who_what Жыл бұрын
"fastbound"
@latsblaster
@latsblaster Ай бұрын
Green wasn't one of the most poweful colors in early MtG, I suppose it got one of the best when creatures became effective. Fastbond and Channel were top cards, but all colors had top cards (even white with Balance). Regrowth was never really broken.
@fulanodominicano
@fulanodominicano Жыл бұрын
I think the strongest green card is the one that allows you to make a new life in another country. >.>
@johndegroot3041
@johndegroot3041 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed Food Chain in your list
@dennisyoung6122
@dennisyoung6122 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the white Oath out of that cycle. Horribly underused.
@gmradio2436
@gmradio2436 10 ай бұрын
Top 10 rule changes. 4 copy limit Mana burn Legends ruling That sort of thing.
@jessicalundholm2773
@jessicalundholm2773 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these cards are legal in the premodern format and there they're just about balanced enough to not be banned. If you want to see some of these cards being played in decks(Hermit Druid, Oath of Druids, Survival of the Fittest) check out some premodern gameplay on KZbin. These cards are crazy
@gourmetwater2442
@gourmetwater2442 Жыл бұрын
You forgot forest. That card is so busted, zero mana for a land that can tap for green? That’s busted!
@Razmatschannel
@Razmatschannel Жыл бұрын
Collosas dreadmaw ??
@AwakenedAvocado
@AwakenedAvocado Жыл бұрын
Colloass Derpmaw
@bariltrailette
@bariltrailette Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time is a better inpulse in green yes dont put a card of your choice but free or two mana for 1 more card than impulse is relevant.
@therealnynetynyne360
@therealnynetynyne360 Жыл бұрын
There is no u in fastbond
@scottargo2152
@scottargo2152 Жыл бұрын
The number of times he mispronounced FastBOND is astounding!
@moleahjobe
@moleahjobe Жыл бұрын
Rofellos has seen a LOT of play
@lucio.brandi
@lucio.brandi Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention to Tarmogoyf.
@silentwatcher5134
@silentwatcher5134 Жыл бұрын
I prefer to sacrifice protean hulk to search for 4 disciple of the vault and 12 X costed artifact creatures
@Moshinoki
@Moshinoki Жыл бұрын
GoN, Sylvan Library??
@Metallicity
@Metallicity Жыл бұрын
Fastbond and Channel being the first and second place cards is kind of hilarious, when they are just riding off early fame and in fact could easily come off the Vintage restricted list tomorrow, while Grave-Troll will likely never get powercrept to a point where it'd be safe. And I'm confident in saying that because WotC already realized this about Fastbond years ago, and it's done nothing since it was unrestricted in 2019. Channel likewise sees 0 play, and would just be a bad gimmick deck even if unrestricted today. Oath of Druids is easier to cast and asks less in deckbuilding to enable it.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Жыл бұрын
Channel ABSOLUTELY cannot come off the restricted list ever. There's a MASSIVE difference between being able to run 1 channel vs 4. 4 would be IMMEDIATELY, incredibly broken. Not because of "lmao channel =>>>> fireball XD" but because of shit like Stax just dropping their hand on the board randomly. I'm sure there's even more decks that would abuse it worse. Fastbond is too high but I'm not even sure you risk unbanning it in legacy. I don't want to know what kind of nonsense enchantress or whatever will get up to. Fastbond is a control player's wet dream btw. Also Wrenn exists.
@Metallicity
@Metallicity Жыл бұрын
@@danlorett2184 Shops already has Shops. Which doesn't tap for Channel. Neither does most of their other fast mana. Manabases in Vintage are all lowkey garbage at making any color other than maybe blue, especially for double pips. So calling Oath "easier to cast" wasn't just a technically correct factoid, but an honest, genuine strike against anyone ever wanting to put Channel in a Vintage deck.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Жыл бұрын
@@Metallicity It's laughable that you think that would even be a problem. Yeah maybe if you just -4 cards +4 channel but if you have two brain cells to rub together it'd be trivial to make it work.
@Metallicity
@Metallicity Жыл бұрын
@@danlorett2184 The point isn't that you couldn't build a deck to take advantage of Channel. It's that such a deck wouldn't be worth playing over Oath, or Tinker, or Jewel, or Doomsday, or Breach, or any other strategy that already exists which can resolve a single card and win. Just like a bunch of people panicked over Fastbond before realizing the card sort of just sucked and asked too much of a deck to make it "good". Vintage is a powerful format, filled with "good" cards, and Channel just wouldn't be consistent enough in 2023 to matter.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Жыл бұрын
@@Metallicity u wrong, but not worth the time
@hotcoldman9793
@hotcoldman9793 Жыл бұрын
Primeval titan?
@shelbymcelyea4831
@shelbymcelyea4831 Жыл бұрын
Idk what fastbound is... But fastbond should have been on here!
@guilty_neco
@guilty_neco Жыл бұрын
Birthing pod reads duel masters blueprint card
@PJB-bh8bn
@PJB-bh8bn Жыл бұрын
Great henge and sylvan library should have been #1and#2
@warpuppy4528
@warpuppy4528 Жыл бұрын
I thought for sure Biorhythm would make it on this list.
@bolassnowman7429
@bolassnowman7429 Жыл бұрын
Why is he calling Fastbond Fastbound?
@thatguyintherain3168
@thatguyintherain3168 Жыл бұрын
Before watching, im hoping I see Great Henge, Sylvan Library, and Birthing Pod. Edit: Welp, I got one right at least
@NateBullock-ow6on
@NateBullock-ow6on Жыл бұрын
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