HOW GOOD ARE THE NEW LR BROLY AND LR GOHAN? COMMUNITY RESPONSE! (Dokkan Battle)

HOW GOOD ARE THE NEW LR BROLY AND LR GOHAN? COMMUNITY RESPONSE!
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[@lighttheprogrammeryt9173]

To me broly is better just cuz I'm on extreme class agenda and broly is my goat so later on I will say who's actually better but ww units all 4 top 5 with beast

[@NikolaiVolkovski]

You dropped your teq UI Goku, here ya go

[@HolyZombieX]

That’s a crazy username you have💀

[@SaintDyl]

@@NikolaiVolkovskiyou’re right he dropped him in bottom too 10 lol

[@NikolaiVolkovski]

@@SaintDyl nothing you said was worth laughing out loud, and he’s def *top five due to the fact he’s on way more teams and just as good if not better performance wise

[@SaintDyl]

@@NikolaiVolkovski I was laughing at you not what I said.

[@reddog8841]

If I had to play double Broly, Lets say I get 1 INT Broly turn 1, and the next INT Broly turn 2 (could be seeing things wrong) Turn 1: Turn on Domain, both Broly get guard and both become slot 1 characters. 15% ATK and DEF for everyone (cause of domain) Turn 2: Intro for 2nd Broly INT Intro goes up, 80% DEF for 4 turns + Domain 15% Turn 3: Chill and do nothing Turn 4: Domain goes away but 2nd Broly still has 80% DEF support so Broly does nothing but chill in slot 2 Turn 5: Revive with Broly if you want, your choice Turn 6: Use 2nd INT Broly domain, both Broly become slot 1 again and give 15% Support to everyone Turn 7: 1st INT Broly gets 60% support + 15% extra from Domain

[@drakebell9513]

You cant revive without domain up

[@yesssssss1635]

@@drakebell9513there is nothing said revive within domain. It’s literally said revive after turn 5 from character entry turn

[@BagooskaTheTerriblyTiredTapir]

​@@drakebell9513 Where does it say that? That wouldn't make any sense, they want you to pop the domain turn 1 and the revive is after 5 turns

[@ProfWollhoven]

i'll say it: Both of them are lower mid-tier. THere, said it. Now that I have your attention, let's really talk about it. xD Right now the only 2 things that kinda bother me about the Broly are, that he has no build-in AA and that his banner unit is a buff for Super Class. The good thing is, that the TEQ Paragus is on his 200% lead and mine is at 27 dodge so I think he'll be usable. Broly himself looks awesome. The new SA effect with additional stat boosting sounds insane and the early domain + revive ... I mean.. c'mon... how are you losing with that? I also like the Gohan, especially since he has a new mechanic with the Dragonballs. I still think that I'll skip him because we'll get way more Super Class buffs than Extreme Buffs in the future and therefore I'd rather use the stones for Boly and save the rest for, you guessed it, Heroes in November. I might get him with Carnival Coins as soo as he returns.

[@imjustsaiyan86]

mid? what uh, whatcha on? lol

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

Yeah him being the one Lr of the 4 without built-in additionals is straight odd, and then giving him super-effective instead at that point they should've just bit the bullet and given him criticals. Considering his help to the team with the domain, support, and revive I wouldn't say he's below a tier yet, only parts that are were his SA animations. I'll likewise go for him not just for the extreme class buff, but also better value banner and then just coin Teq Broly to partner him with.

[@thefool6985]

They took away the offense to give him more defense is the reasoning I'm using to cope. And its not like he NEEDS to do damage, cell max and the teq brolys already do it. Him being a utility defensive god Is what the team needed imo

[@ZannyZazz]

The utility/att power/def tank that int lr Broly brings to extreme class and the amount of raw power/defensive capabilities with 5 turns of unkillable nuke. And they're MID is so wild, either trolling for likes or on that good country meth 😂.

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

Going off calculations, Gohan is an absolute nightmare, 30mill 18ki with 20mill additional that builds up to hitting harder than the intial super he's like Goku Black on cracking in that aspect with a solid 1.7m defence after 4 supers with guard. That's not even taking into account running him with phy ssj trio support. I like both pretty close but I think Gohan is my preferred unit design with peak standby animations, my issue with Broly is no built in additional super since that extra massively raise attack is massive for his defence but blocked out practically for 55% users. Still, his role as a support for his team with an easy revive, domain that doesn't clash with Super Broly, and still for his 1 super hitting a solid 20 million. That and his SA supers, given the source, aren't great. Still, if I get him I'm picking up Carnival Teq Broly to run his goliath of a team.

[@manihonarvar502]

So far I think would also like to wait and see the units in game first then make a judgement but I feel like both Of them were designed to be slot 2/3 units where their part 1 unit were made to be slot 1. Now I personally like what Gohan is doing and seeing big damage is fun but I need see his defense in game. My only complaint with Gohan is That I wish his 50 percent chance to dodge was just there and not restricted. As for INT Broly he seems pretty good And movie Bosses having a revival could be very useful so we’ll see what they really look like but as of right I think Both are top 10 but not top 5 however INT Broly maybe but we will see.

[@hungrymexican3431]

If you get gohan to 150 ki he legit just oneshots most of the bosses, and only the hardest bosses barely survive his standby. I have tried it out on bosses for hours now, and I still can't fathom how they just let us have a unit that just kills everything after the standby.

[@waylaymaster6198]

Everyone keeps forgetting about int majin buu from Golden week that has a revive. I still feel like you're running two of the teq LR broly as lead

[@thefool6985]

You could but running 2 of int broly would get you, (assuming the person has teq broly) 3 slot 1 character's and a int broly on each rotation to man it down

[@bringerdown3998]

Broly is god thats all

[@alessandroshady]

Idk I think it's a little too early to say for sure but at the moment I prefer Broly between the two, mainly for his overall awesome utility: he has a revive, a domain, he is an amazing leader and a fantastic unit. Gohan seems incredible as well but I feel like a unit like Broly for Extreme type was very needed (also huge W Omatsu, we got 2 Extreme Lrs in this WWC)

[@kalobizme]

The 7 stacked Broly team: I didn't hear no bell.

[@PhilUP]

Going with Broly just because he’s helping his teams that’s makes a character one of the best unit these days. But do like Gohan more.

[@grimsleydrake8641]

I'm going for Broly bc hirudi is on the banner as well with Broly. I need a better movie boss leader than cooler.

[@nuggiesss6193]

They’re both fantastic but extreme class doesn’t have many supports. They’ll always pump out characters that do a lot of damage but no telling how long we will have to wait for a extreme class buffer again

[@Rough_Estimates]

Gohan being SS2 would have made more sense IMO

[@SoccYT]

I don't think gohan is better at all. People need to not conflate being the worse of the 2 as bad. Broly comes with alot of utility which is far more important than just being raw numbers. Broly brings 4 turns of support out the gate that will be coupled with his domain, then also has orb changing, healing, and a revive thats conditionless beyond needing to live to turn 5. Then once he revives he becomes a 60% support for the team. Considering the help villains needed, broly is a far more important and better unit. Gohan will hit really hard, I'm pretty confident of that. But thats it, hes a damage dealer that can swap into a tank like the buu boys. You can consider one more fun than the other but in terms of kit broly is just better because he actually adds to the game beyond being a damage stick. The way I view it is like the 8th anniversary units, both were good in their own ways but the GT duo were better for the teams because of their support and revive. Which is the same case here.

[@justasinglesummon3912]

I think Gohan we need to see ingame for sure. Reminds me a lot of how people(including me) were quick to jump the gun on the phy trio from part 1. When the details released, Broly looked comfortably better in terms of kit. Even though the trio ended up quite a bit better. But from details alone, Broly looks wayyyy better. I just hope they make Gohan hit insanely hard, so the new mechanic will be fun and we see the animation a lot ingame.

[@ZannyZazz]

Broly provides a lot to villains is true, but saying gohan is just a damage stick makes me flabbergasted by that comment. Going to enjoy the switch up showcase.

[@SoccYT]

​@@ZannyZazzhe's objectively a damage stick. He doesn't provide any support in his kit and has a fuck ton of attack passives and is meant to super like 4 to 5 times. Does that make him bad? Not remotely, because whats nice about gohan is in a pinch you can pop his standby and then not have him be at risk of dying ever. People need to understand that just because something is called a damage stick doesn't mean they arent effective. Damage is absolutely necessary to clear harder events where checks exist. And he will be by far one of the best at that role. Its just that in contrast to the trio, hes not bringing additional support comparatively.

[@SoccYT]

​@@justasinglesummon3912gohan will at least be hitting 20-30m on 24 ki with super effective with at least additional supers following up from a range of 13-20m. He's gonna hit hard. But thats really not the core part that people should be focusing on. Once he gets into standby he's able to tank almost anything comfortably. I just don't value him the same way people do. Units that change how relevant entire categories are for me are a bit more important. Because gohan is good, he just sits in overloaded categories. Whereas broly will revive quite a bit of teams.

[@ZannyZazz]

@@SoccYT you did see right where under trios lead, fully built Gohan with all aa proc, is sitting at over 2.5 mil defense with guard, and if restriction meet 50% chance to proc dodge. Id hardly say thats a "damage stick" even in non-standby skill mode. And saying he provides no support while giving super class 50% defense on free 18ki is disingenuous as well. So to conclude, he is NOT objectively a "damage stick", as his base proves more than adequate to tank almost 99% of the game. Then at real bosses, hence gf, there's a standby to be unkillable for 5 turns, while yes, even slightly supporting on base 18ki super.

[@nice8534]

Bio Broly Agenda continues!

[@Gael_Gepp]

If I get them, good. If not, I'll use them as a friend leader.

[@mikefitz2124]

Broly doesn’t hit crazy hard but he doesn’t have to, the rest of the team does… he offers utility up the wazzoo

[@sasuke65743]

Bio Broly is gonna have a giant form at bare minimum, it would fit him so much

[@reddog8841]

Gohan is similar to TEQ LR Broly EZA but better defenses and invincible standby (Like 95% of standbys anyway). INT Broly is a gimmick character that's giving LOTS of support + protecting the team with revive + slot 1 when domain is up which if played right is just most of the fight itself. Id say Broly is either number 1 or number 2 in the game. Gohan is top 10 for sure but not top 5

[@realanalysis42]

Until I see Gohan have a 300M+ attack stat like TEQ LR Broly EZA, they are not similar, not even close.

[@reddog8841]

@@realanalysis42 Gohan does do lots of damage, but INT Broly gives TEQ LR Broly EZA so much extra damage that Gohan probably wont hit harder then him

[@finartix]

@@realanalysis42gohan outdamage broly by a lot, especially on his standby

[@suhcher21]

@@finartixcap

[@Weeb-of-Class]

Both Broly and Gohan are amazing units that benefit the teams they are on in many ways. Broly is a very good example of being a strong offensive and defensive DFE with a good amount of support and utility to help weaker units be solid and strong units be unstoppable on his team. Gohan I feel is being very slightly underrated which is weird considering he is a 200% lead for Kamehameha which means he will always have a team that is constantly getting buffed. Gohan will look impressive offensively and will be great defensively between his high raw numbers+guard and the 50% dodge chance that can proc mid turn, also giving 50% support on his 18ki super will help your slot 3 unit not get you killed as often.

[@solas-5176]

I managed to pull Future Gohan from the rainbow tickets last year. I hope INT LR Broly treats me just as well this year.

[@chillwill7]

Gohan sounds cool but I'm just not a fan of the standby units. They're really only good until the next one is released. Then you gotta choose which one to use. I prefer solid all around units like the 2 brolys who can defend, attack, and support vs waiting multiple turns for a one shot situation

[@noahschivitz2691]

I think gohan is better however I think int Broly is a great unit however I think he should of gotten at least an additional at least after revive but I think he would be better with 1 on the team rather than 2 Personally im probably going to run teq Broly lead cause int broly slot 1 is going to be inconsistent except when domain is up

[@Aqua-dn5rn]

People sleeping on gohan is crazy after they use him they will understand

[@palle3051]

Broly > Gohan. The big differents why Broly is better are the SA effects and that easy revive. Also interesting about the community is that a lot of people talking about the Broly Domain clash and thats why Gohan is better but they dont care about the standby clash between Gohan and the new trio! Broly probably dont need his Domain and the only perma buff is the effektiv agains all types and i would say you want Broly to get killed to get his revive buffs The only time you would use his Domain is he gets locked in slot1 to be save( if you dont have his revive anymore) or just want to finish the fight easy on that turn.

[@illyricus.]

That’s because the trio doesn’t need the domain. If you actually want to optimise your team to their best you’ll need them in base for their 150 def permanent support to all allies. Using his standby actually makes the team more vulnerable that’s why The trio > standby. Whereas with Gohan it’s easy. You either want him to do dmg or to tank, so you’ll choose one or the other depending on your circumstances.

[@thatboi-_-j]

Beast is like the true #1 but can be replaced with either Teq or Int Broly… people really are underestimated what Int Broly is bringing to the table, he’s literally SSJ trio but better like wth!!

[@thomasllamas7221]

On paper, before I see them in game. I honestly think Broly is #1, he has such a big tool kit, he's doing so much for his team. However, I could be wrong after I see gameplay. In the end, I don't care that much who is #1, the top tier list right now is stacked with so many badass cards.😎👍

[@lighttheprogrammeryt9173]

Imma be using agl broly team and since int broly will be on his 200 percent cuz of transformation he will replace int golden frieza tur as my int unit on the team with part 1 teq broly yeah

[@virus3072]

Ive tested them. Broly isnt bad, but hes super dupe hungry. Cant additional or crit unfortunately from passive, and must be a slot 2. He can take a mean super after passive is built up. Hes very good, just when compared to Gohan...dude..Gohan i will kid you NOT, is ridiculously strong, super defensive in standby, and paired with the ssj trio from part 1? You have such a strong rotation. Gohans only issue is he needs crits. I will be summoning for both, but Gohan first in my opinion

[@FrostGhidorahEX]

I hesitate to say Broly or Gohan is near Beast level. I hesitate cause honestly looking at all the stuff they do it is hard to say Beast is leagues above them. I think they're just under or right on Beast level. To me Broly is more worthwhile unit. Gohan while cool is a super saiyan goku family movie heroes unit. We're not gonna be short on any units for those categories. Meanwhile this may be our last Movie Bosses buff for several weeks if not months. Plus I'm an unapologetic Z Broly fan so of course I'm going for him

[@newtype79]

1.5 mill w/guard dies to Bulma.

[@aarongaray2595]

Broly with dupes is a monster. Broly at 55% will probably be underwhelming I will die on this hill int is the worst typing for any unit brolys passive doesn't give him any additionals. So at 55% I'm worried.

[@bambabarry]

Will he be underwhelming ?? 60% dr at all time + massively raise def on super is nothing to scoff at I guess for damage yeah he will not be the best at 55% ….. but I don’t think that’s his role tbh

[@aarongaray2595]

@bambabarry I still stand by what said this broly is all about damage. Him being int is not great plus part 1 broly is the tank movie bosses needed. The eza brolys are a glass Cannon for brolys revive. I would've liked this broly to do a bit of everything.

[@bambabarry]

@@aarongaray2595 ok then let’s agree to disagree because this broly isn’t at all about damage in my eyes

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

They really should've given him a built-in additional super, that extra massively raise defence would've been immense for him at 55%. He's still incredibly strong but he does look to be the weakest of the 4 but the more limited teams he's part of makes him immensely more helpful relatively.

[@thefool6985]

​@@aarongaray2595How could you like at a units kit with support and a revive and draw up a conclusion that he's a damage based unit ?? 😭 Theres both teq brolys and Cell max to do damage. That isnt his role

[@mkulchar]

Gohan is easily way better but super is so flooded with game breaking units. Their interest is not very good compared to extreme which needs help like crazy. Why didn't even bother wasting stones on the physical Goku banner as his buff's not needed since they're already broken right off bat with crazy characters

[@Kabuki_Vulture]

I don’t know which is better, I just see a Broly and I summon.

[@rkgohansking790]

Same i have pulled every single broly til.now so let me pull this last one i may skip bio broly

[@Kabuki_Vulture]

@@rkgohansking790 Good luck tomorrow on trying to complete your Broly collection!

[@Beastgohan7314]

I’ve been saving my carnival coins in case if carnival gammas are on the banner or carnival gogeta

[@kallarhandbz]

LR carnival GAMMAS was on the LR carnival Broly banner, who will be on the banner is LR carnival Gogeta

[@Beastgohan7314]

@@kallarhandbz I was referring to the global banner

[@zel5587]

Gogeta probablt isnt coming back on global's banner. We just had 9th anni

[@Beastgohan7314]

@@zel5587 you right I forgot about that

[@anthonyfigueroa6390]

Broly best unit in game. Gohan top 10

[@brandonlane4525]

Yeah the ssj trio team gonna be broken imo there one on top probably a top 5 unit in this Gohan it's gonna be absurd.

[@bambabarry]

This gohan just like the trio from part 1 are very skippable imo The super class have soooooooooo many options that they don’t feel necessary to me + the two of them will most likely clash because of their standby Sure they are very good , but just right now they can wait to be picked up with coins later Broly on the other is litteraly the perfect design for any extreme team he can be on especially the broly’s team …… he support , great defense , revive and his domain will never clash with the agl broly domain

[@yesssssss1635]

Lr trio doesn’t have to do standby.

[@bambabarry]

@@yesssssss1635 bruh …. The new lr trio doesn’t have a standby ? What are you talking about

[@yesssssss1635]

@@bambabarry sorry typo. I want to said, lr trio no need to do standby. Since they can get caught after they using their standby

[@mr_bob4907]

Gohan is mad skippable fr

[@aarongaray2595]

This is your daily F bio broly comment that character is trash stop with the cope.

[@SuperEmmanuel619]

Brolyn teq is God

[@jonart8433]

My thing is if you run both INT Brolys do both Brolys get the permanent buff from the others domain or do you have to activate both separately? If you have to activate both separately I don't see a reason to run 2 of him and I would rather run 2 Teq Broly instead

[@Adam-pd8sc]

I'm sure u would, but it would he even more overpowered bc you'll have a domain for the entire fight. First LR INT Broly, then AGL broly, then the LR INT Broly friend domain, the 60% support unfortunately is only for ONE of the brolys that revive

[@jonart8433]

​@Adam-pd8sc I just don't see why I would want to run 2 of him then. By the time Agl Brolys domain is up the fight will be over. So 2 Teq Broly would be way more beneficial because it would kill faster during the others domain.

[@jonart8433]

​@@Adam-pd8scbecause you have to activate his domain to get his revival. So that means one broly will never have his revive

[@deriangreen13]

No his revive is just 5th turn from his entry turn, it's separate from his domain

[@jonart8433]

@@deriangreen13 oh, legit thought he had to have activated his domain. Makes way more sense now lol 😆

[@Bardock059]

Someone take Zing's phone away before he yaps more nonsense

[@GFMSancho436]

Broly is better it's no contest

[@seancronin3388]

Idk man I run the trios team I die a lot. I run beast team and never die. I run TEQ brolys team and rarely die. I can’t call trios the best unit in the game when I’m always dying when running them and they have been the ones that get me killed quite often. I think the new broly will be number 1 or 2 after beast.

[@brandonlane4525]

I need Gohan in my life.also yeah the last dude is a clown so your saying tanking most supers in the game is not good got it 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@seb100it5]

The hardest boss in the game he cannot tank but the other 99% of the game he can clear with no issue but if bulma or launch gets a super on him he’s fried fish

[@brandonlane4525]

@seb100it5 the hardest boss in the game no shit it's a instant super DUHHHH also i said most supers read

[@seb100it5]

@@brandonlane4525 I said he’s very good and he should have no issue the 1% is where people will call him bad I did read and his defense is not enough for the hardest hitting bosses as long as you know that don’t put him in front of the supers lol

[@brandonlane4525]

@seb100it5 and once again, you didn't read if it's an insant super sure if it's not your lying and if it's a 5 million super no shit but guess what the boss is not living to that point.

[@seb100it5]

@@brandonlane4525 put him slot 3 in launch and watch him work gang