Complete Guide To PRUNING PERSIMMONS: Winter Pruning ASIAN PERSIMMON TREES

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The Millennial Gardener

The Millennial Gardener

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@djdimsum852
@djdimsum852 3 ай бұрын
Please make a summer pruning follow up. Thank you.
@karenluck7273
@karenluck7273 2 жыл бұрын
I really needed this video today! Yesterday I pruned all the dead, crossing, and awkward branches on my second season trees, but then I chickened out over doing the hard stuff 😩 Today I feel confident I can tackle it! Thanks so much as always
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this could be helpful. Pruning is an art. Don’t be afraid to do it, and remember, it’ll grow back.
@marydorr6322
@marydorr6322 2 жыл бұрын
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@bza069
@bza069 Жыл бұрын
i am VERY impressed by these videos. The host is all content and no fluff or nonsense. Seems like I am in a classroom. Great stuff
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you are enjoying them.
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb Жыл бұрын
Good video! I've been watching a number of pruning videos lately, and you've done an excellent job of explaining what needs to be done and why. Your tree looks great! Some of my fruit trees are very young, some are 15 to 18 years old. I have some peach and plum trees that I planted last year as well as some citrus that I planted to replace mature trees killed in the big Texas freeze. Fortunately, I pruned my Fuyu early on very similarly to how you've done yours. My Fuyu is about 18 now and I've had years when I pruned it perfectly, and other times when I didn't get around to pruning it at all. Consequently I've had years with awesome fruit production, and other years when it's been terrible. The two biggest mistakes that I've made in the past are: 1) Over pruning and cutting off too much of last year's fruiting wood, thus getting very low production, 2) Not pruning enough and ending up with lots of small and inferior fruit. That also triggered a slow year the following year due to the tree wanting to alternate years to bear fruit. My Fuyu has gradually gotten too tall for me to pick fruit from the uppermost branches without climbing an 8 ft ladder. I had a ladder collapse under me last year while pruning a crepe myrtle and I narrowly escaped severe injury. I'm in decent shape so I sort bounced a bit, but I was also very lucky. Climbing a ladder in any outdoor situation can suddenly become very dangerous. If you have to do it, you really should have a spotter. I'm going to be doing a pretty severe prune on my persimmon and pear trees this year to get them back to more practical and safer heights. I know it's going to probably cost me this year's fruit production on the persimmon though. I've debated on doing only 1/3 to 1/2 of the tree per year over the next few years but I've about decided against it. The Fuyu is a pretty tree, and it's located in a spot that a visual focal point of the yard. So I want to keep its balanced shape. Therefore I'll probably just take the hit on this year's fruit production. You appear be following a plan similar to what I did many years ago. When I bought my house the back yard was 100% grass. There were zero trees or beds. Before buying fruit trees I spent time looking out of the windows of the rooms with a view to the backyard to identify the main focal points. Then I went out to the patio and looked again, also paying attention to the neighbors homes and noting the windows that overlooked my yard. I planted more attractive trees in areas that were visible from inside my house; and I also made sure to put evergreens, like citrus trees, where they'd block neighbor's windows to give us more privacy. I also planted my trees where the crowns were about 6 to 8 inches above grade. I surrounded them with temporary boarders and eventually filled in between the trees with above grade beds containing ornamentals and hummingbird/ butterfly attractants. Our soil is a thick clay gumbo soil that makes gardening a challenge, so all of our beds are built above grade so that they drain well. I have a slightly oversized suburban back yard, but by planting the trees along the perimeter of the yard on 16 foot centers I was able to plant about 18 fruit trees while still allowing room for berry bushes and a small garden. And the center of the yard is still open and sunny. Most of the non citrus are pruned in an open vase shape, or similar to what you demonstrated in this video. The fruit trees don't really look like fruit trees when they are green, but three seasons of the year the yard is surrounded by a lush green privacy barrier that just happens to produce fruit. Plant your trees proud (crowns higher then the surrounding soil level) if you anticipate surrounding them with flowerbeds one day. Roots can grow down if the tree is a little high. But the roots will rot if your tree's root ball is planted too deep. You made another good point. If you make a pruning mistake there is a very good chance you can fix it later. Also, a backyard grower doesn't have to always prune exactly "by the book". Yes, that's the way to insure maximum fruit production; but for yard trees, pruning the trees so that they look nice, or provide shade or privacy, are legitimate reasons to vary from the book. BTW, once you start getting some significant fruit production from your Fuyu, consider drying some of the fruit. I use an inexpensive electric food slicer, similar to what they use in a deli to slice lunch meat. I slice my persimmons into slices a tad bit thicker than you'd cut a tomato for a burger. Then I dehydrate them. They make amazing snacks that look and taste great! One last thing. Fuyu persimmons will finish ripening off the tree. You can pick them a bit early, before they are fully ripe. They will taste just as good once they ripen as they would if you'd left them on the tree. But you won't lose as many fruits to birds, critters, or stink bugs. Same thing with tomatoes, for those that don't know.
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
thank you much careful thoughts here, very helpful!
@squidikka
@squidikka 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about pruning my Fuyu into an open form because I figured it made the most sense. I didn't even know about the modified central leader form. Thank you for this, will do it tomorrow!
@traxmom
@traxmom Жыл бұрын
This is great, thank you for explaining persimmon pruning.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful!
@cesarbejarano7363
@cesarbejarano7363 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I bought two Hachiya Persimmon trees today. Thank you.
@kimlee1511
@kimlee1511 2 жыл бұрын
Most educational video Enjoy every seconds.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
@supernovahk19
@supernovahk19 2 жыл бұрын
A must do thing, just can’t help it, always fast forward to see ✨Dale✨💕 first.. as always, great information.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Dale appreciates it! He is a ham on camera 🐷 😂
@ReneSicat-t4p
@ReneSicat-t4p 3 ай бұрын
Impressive video! Very detailed, complete, easy to follow. Thank you!😀
@paulmoss7940
@paulmoss7940 Жыл бұрын
That was a really good explanation. Thanks ,I'll by using this in February.
@sahmadi1000
@sahmadi1000 Жыл бұрын
Best pruning lesson in the world! THANKS
@TnTranN
@TnTranN 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation my friend!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sequoiawarner6756
@sequoiawarner6756 Жыл бұрын
Just about to plant a persimmon, thanks for the the pruning tutorial!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@vincam4674
@vincam4674 2 жыл бұрын
Some really great tips, hello from Australia.😀
@nonsquid
@nonsquid 8 ай бұрын
I never thought that I would see a winter pruning video from a guy in a t -shirt and shorts. All those persimmon tree trimmings could be sold as scions.
@ninadardi7748
@ninadardi7748 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very informative. I planted one persimmon this season. It was loaded with flowers. It was potted in huge pot. When I pulled it out it looked as if it was potted from a 3 gallon pot into a 4 times or more the size of the roots. I had dug double the size of the pot. I think it may have shocked the roots when I pulled it out from the pot. 95% of the flowers fell and some branches dried out. I have about 5 or 6 fruit that are growing. I hope it will grow some new shoots befor winter. I will use this method 😊👍
@ericwiltz6584
@ericwiltz6584 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation. One of the biggest hurdles for Gardners to overcome is pruning, especially peaches!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
That is true. Many are afraid to prune their trees, but it must be done for optimal fruit quality. Thanks for watching!
@user-gk-y8t
@user-gk-y8t 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thankyou.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@stackingstowbuk1260
@stackingstowbuk1260 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, good job
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
@alexamattheu7139
@alexamattheu7139 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. My persimmon I purchased 3 years ago is very healthy but hasn’t fruit. I will try to prune it his year and hopes it fruits next year.
@Natalya-G52
@Natalya-G52 2 жыл бұрын
My persimmon is 3 yers old in the ground, maybe he was 1 yers when I bought him, it’s Ichi Ki Kei Jiro , last year I have at least 30 beautiful persimmons. I never prune, and I miss this year winter pruning (never herd about) until today I see your video. I’m in costal SC and my tree has leaves all over. I will be waiting for summer pruning and watching your video. Love my persimmon
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
I have that variety in-ground on the opposite side of my yard. That is a particularly dwarfing variety, and only grows to be about half the size of this Giombo. I recommend pruning in early years to develop a proper structure of the tree. Otherwise, it will naturally be less balanced and have a lot more shading. Fruit trees, when allowed to grow naturally, grow fruit to produce seed. Their goal is to produce as much seed as possible, so they will over-produce smaller, lower quality fruit. If you want to have higher quality, larger fruit, you need to prune your tree for balance in the winter and thin fruit in the summer.
@ArtSnow-p9p
@ArtSnow-p9p 14 күн бұрын
Why pruning is important, besides maximizing fruit production: It keeps the limbs from getting too long to bear the weight of the fruit. This year, our five plus year-old Korean persimmon tree is ten feet tall, and under pruned. It's September 3 in Maryland, and the fruit is golf-ball size. All of the limbs are sagging a foot, or more. We are supporting the limbs with sticks. We have removed a foot of length of the limbs (with some fruit attached). This winter/spring it will have its limbs shortened a foot or two more. Last year, we got over 100 apple-sized persimmons from it. We await this year's harvest. Thus, pruning helps prevent limb breakage from excess fruit weight.
@SamuelPerkash
@SamuelPerkash 23 күн бұрын
good information thanks your 🎉
@SeahorseWorkshop
@SeahorseWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Informative. Liked. Subscribed. Keep up the good work.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@sylvia10101
@sylvia10101 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the helpful info😊👍
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@AncientHippie
@AncientHippie Жыл бұрын
I try to keep my fruit tree profiles low as well but if they get tall I saw this great idea and made one. Take a 2x2 and a plastic 1/2 gal milk carton. Cut off the bottom and cut a small v in the bottom. Attach that milk cartoon to the 2x2 with the open bottom facing up and the v out. You can then get any fruit up high without a ladder just line the fruit into the opening with the v at the stem. Push up and the v separates the fruit.
@ihus9950
@ihus9950 4 ай бұрын
Great information Thank you 👍🏻
@artsnow8872
@artsnow8872 Жыл бұрын
I tell people, "You don't prune a fruit tree to make it pretty. You prune it to make it bear the most, best fruit. An ornamental tree is different --- you trim it pretty." A completely open center isn't the most productive. The central volume, when pruned correctly, can receive air and light and, thus, can bear more fruit.
@mbm2355
@mbm2355 Жыл бұрын
I've got some one, and two-year trees we just potted, that are basically 7 foot tall whips with 2-3 little spindly offshoots. Modified central leader seems like the best choice, but it might be a bit too late. Thanks for the video!
@leopardwoman38
@leopardwoman38 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you! 👍👍👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😀💕🌱🌱
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@leopardwoman38
@leopardwoman38 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener 😀😀😀
@arabellalunkes4532
@arabellalunkes4532 Жыл бұрын
Excelente pruning video! Thank you!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@allenmorrill7534
@allenmorrill7534 Жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative! The only flaw I see is leaving the codominant stem which is an extremely weak point and will most like split when either of those start to bear fruit
@scottl7604
@scottl7604 2 жыл бұрын
A white sheet hung on the fence would have been ideal.
@MS-de7bb
@MS-de7bb 5 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@bannguyen5057
@bannguyen5057 8 ай бұрын
Thank so much for your videos! 10:10 If I did not see you cut the strong healthy branch I would NEVER be able to trim my Persimmon trees to form them the way I want them to grow! You are right cut then step back then cut more the unnecessary left previously cutting! Questions: In the last 2 years from the young to the matured trees leaves are curb! Next, when trees grown from seeds bearing fruits? Happy New Year! From Maryland.
@Crunchypickles124
@Crunchypickles124 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this tree later in the year with leaves snd fruit.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I'm actually editing a video right now for Monday that will feature my persimmon with full foliage and fruit.
@benoitphilibert9316
@benoitphilibert9316 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You are such a great, smart and handsome guy.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
@shirleyhuang4957
@shirleyhuang4957 Жыл бұрын
Very clear. Thanks very much.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@verdantpulse5185
@verdantpulse5185 Жыл бұрын
That fork between the two leaders at crotch high is too tight. there is included bark, the tree will split. The first cut should have been to remove the leader on the right (has another tight fork higher up).
@artielang2
@artielang2 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@Timamoun1
@Timamoun1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I hope you read this message. First of all, thank you for the video about the dwarf tomatoes. I'm in Alberta zone 3 with 110 frost-free days. Tomatoes never really perform well for me. I never heard of victory seeds before. I find some great variety caters to my zone. You should do a video for short-season gardeners like me. Thank you. .
@stevegaines-vq3bd
@stevegaines-vq3bd 4 ай бұрын
good job...i subscribed
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
@martingardens
@martingardens 10 ай бұрын
Use a Japanese folding saw that you can stick in your pocket. The double-edged saw he is using is more for lumber than for tree work. The blade is thinner than a folding saw so it's more likely to snap when cutting pine, for example, that will deposit pitch on the blade and tends to bind on the push stroke. Japanese saws are draw saw, that is, they cut on the pull stroke. Hence, Japanese blades are thinner as a blade is good under tension but not compression. Also, cuts will be tighter to the work if you hold the blade close to the leader and not the hook. I spin it in my hand as I move up the trunk.
@livesoutdoors1708
@livesoutdoors1708 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@joecabral7925
@joecabral7925 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what fertilizer you’re using for the persimmons tree.they look so good. I love you’re videos.good job my friend.
9 ай бұрын
Çok güzel budama oldu. Tebrikler.
@solarroofing8072
@solarroofing8072 2 жыл бұрын
awesome. persimmons grow so well in NC. They are native to the SE USA.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
These are Asian persimmons, so they actually can be problematic in the US. The reason why is because in their native location, they do not have late frosts and freezes like we do. While the hardiness zone and latitude is similar, in East China and Japan where these trees hail from, they have abrupt transitions from winter to spring with rare last frosts and freezes. Transition from winter to spring is very gradual in the eastern US with many cold air outbreaks, and these trees usually bud out before frosts and freezes stop in the US because they didn't have to evolve dealing with them. They tend to take late frost damage every year as a result, which is always a challenge.
@solarroofing8072
@solarroofing8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener good to know maybe I'll get some of those white winter protection covers just in case. mine are already budding out. I did have a few die from late frosts over a decade ago.
@mayan3678
@mayan3678 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video!! I actually thought you had to grow them tall, as branches hang low, with weight of fruit.
@32dworth
@32dworth Жыл бұрын
Anywhere around Charlotte NC that you recommend purchasing persimmon trees? I would like to be able to go in person and pick out and not just order online.
@yijiemao2562
@yijiemao2562 9 ай бұрын
I really hope that I watched this video before, it's a great video. I have an aisn persimmon tree is definitely "open center ", how can I make it to a " modified central leader " shape?
@MommaFig1
@MommaFig1 Жыл бұрын
Next time, consider a sheet on the fence. Hard to see the branches
@markvhidalgo
@markvhidalgo Жыл бұрын
Needed this
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@cherylhuyck4622
@cherylhuyck4622 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video and I am now better prepared to tackle my fuju persimmon. I've only done miner pruning to my 5 year old tree. Can I assume its never to late to properly prune and shape the tree? I'm going for it next month after ordering recommended saw. Wish me luck.
@user-lg6qs3mw5k
@user-lg6qs3mw5k Жыл бұрын
It was difficult to see what you were doing because the fence behind the tree is the same colour as the tree branches. Maybe place a white background
@BrovaKain_357
@BrovaKain_357 9 ай бұрын
I recently purchased a 6ft. Matsumoto persimmon tree. My back yard space is tight and i have some other fruit trees. I want the height and width to be managable( no more than 10 ft tall x 5ft w). If I clip the central leader to 3ft will that help? Are you familiar with Matsumoto persimmons? Love the channel as well!!
@j42wade
@j42wade Жыл бұрын
i noticed that you didnt prune the lower and much closer to the ground, smaller branches under the main trunk. Wonder why you left them out?
@nakamura7491
@nakamura7491 Жыл бұрын
the fence is superb, how much did it cost? how to prevent d. lotus from becoming infected with the fungus, would you graft kaki on d. lotus that is infected, that is, it has blackness in the middle of the tree?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
The fence is 4 years old, so that was well before lumber prices skyrocketed. At the time, the cost was $20/LF. I'm sure it's more expensive now. I would not plant any persimmons in Lotus rootstock here in the US, because d. virginiana is native to the US and is mostly "bulletproof" as they say. All my persimmons are on d. virginiana for that reason, because d. virginiana is native to my area and grows wild here. I would absolutely not graft anything onto infected rootstock. If you don't live in the US, I'm not sure what the rules are.
@deannadimain8986
@deannadimain8986 Жыл бұрын
When is the best time to fertilize my persimmons trees. What kind of fertilizer should I use. How should I apply them? Thank you.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
The procedure for fertilizing established deciduous fruit trees planted in ground are almost all the same. You do your initial fertilizing 2-4 weeks before your last frost date to help boost the tree when it's getting ready to bud out, another fertilizing in late spring, and another fertilizing in mid-summer. Then, you stop fertilizing them, because you don't want to encourage new growth in the fall when the trees need to go dormant. At the first fertilizing prior to your last frost, always add a new layer of compost and mulch.
@williamjones1797
@williamjones1797 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial but I'm a little surprised you left all three of the lowest branches on. Seems like their fruit will be shaded- therefore small or not ripening adequately. And wouldn't you be wanting to "push" growth to higher branches with better sun exposure?.
@ainati6121
@ainati6121 Жыл бұрын
We lived in NC and our persimmon tree is in it's 2nd year this year 2023. When do we need to prune it?
@Joshsmoove
@Joshsmoove 6 ай бұрын
How far away from the fence is your persimmon planted? I'm planning my planting process now.
@timcheng8165
@timcheng8165 Жыл бұрын
I have a one year-old fuyu persimmon tree thin and stands at 6’. At what age should I start winter pruning it?
@joujou0315
@joujou0315 Жыл бұрын
Good question!!
@TruckTaxiMoveIt
@TruckTaxiMoveIt Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@afrocraft1
@afrocraft1 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand the cut at 11:55. If you're going for a modified central leader, shouldn't you let just _one_ leader dominate the entire plant? Isn't how you eventually pruned it more like open-vase type?
@ilg212
@ilg212 2 ай бұрын
Do you summer prune persimmons too? If so can you please do a video?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 ай бұрын
I have one here on my second channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6K5hmaEjqaAhNUsi=9cgbh31HlD7t77fg
@LadyGoza
@LadyGoza 6 ай бұрын
I accidentally planted my fuyu and saijo trees in partial shade. They are about three feet tall. Is it too late to move them to another part of the yard where they can get full sun? The fuyu is just budding tiny leaves. The saijo hasn't come out of dormancy. I also planted them 5 feet apart to keep them small. Is that ok for persimmon trees? Thank you!
@annieli7299
@annieli7299 11 ай бұрын
Is it need to prune back to the eye level every winter? Thank you.
@colindylan100
@colindylan100 Жыл бұрын
I have carefully studied your video and came out to prune my two persimmons tree ( 3 years old) I pruned them in the 3rd week of Mar. and now at late May , there are no blooming or sign of green leaf anywhere , on both trees , wish I can put a pic into here . Is that a sign of my trees are dead ? Should I wait a little longer of just get rid of them ? Thanks .
@skLuke638
@skLuke638 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Persimmon tree from a nursery in a neighboring city. This was PRE-KZbin. After a few years of it not bearing fruit I returned to the nursery only to find it OUT OF BUSINESS. Go figure! Since then we have planted a couple of other different native persimmons hoping to pollinate the other. This first tree had grown really big & I am attempting to talk my husband into cut it down or pruning it down completely. We are both in it 70s & I'm not able to work in the yard(car accident 2yo). Any suggestions? We live in NE Georgia
@christinedurant2512
@christinedurant2512 Жыл бұрын
How do I get my v shaped 2 year old persimmon tree that I grew from a seed to branch in different directions. It started as one stem then 2 open v like stems and I am noticing that pattern repeating as the v shape becomes more pronounced
@werewasyo
@werewasyo Жыл бұрын
or just get a pole pruner to harvest the fruit if it's too tall? also, are you saying after budding and tiny leaves develop, to avoid cutting off branches? it's already spring, and i forgot to winter prune. is it too late?
@diego_villena
@diego_villena Ай бұрын
Do you have a similar video for citrus?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Ай бұрын
Yes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ-8YWNvetiebLssi=n59L84F6aOIziOq0
@jennybaez-cepeda4919
@jennybaez-cepeda4919 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about fruiting. Because my persimmon tree has been in the ground for three years and still no fruit. I finally decided to move it to another part of the yard away it’s going to get more sun. But the funny thing is I looked online everywhere it can show me the fruit branching. I got nada !
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
From my research, it usually takes 3-4 years for a grafted persimmon to fruit. Remember, the first year you plant it, it isn't really a full year. It's really just half a season, so that 3rd season is really its second full year in-ground. As long as you give it 6+ hours of direct, unfiltered sun each day, and enough food and water, it will fruit when it's ready. Of course, I'm assuming it's grafted. Seed-grown persimmon trees can take 10+ years to fruit.
@jennybaez-cepeda4919
@jennybaez-cepeda4919 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener thank you very much for your reply that’s the reason why I moved it. Extra belly rubs from me to your big putty. 🤣😂🤣
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
I have the slightly flattened apple shape non astringent persimmon. Does it also fruit on previous years new growth? Not quite sure what you mean by that. Also how to recognize water sprouts, are they the ones that grow straight up. Florida storm winds often blow off the fruit but this weeks hurricane spared my 6 large persimmons, just had one mildly sweet one with pudding texture. Wonderful. Thanx v well done video.
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb Жыл бұрын
FYI, it's probably a Matsumoto Wase Fuyu. Almost worth growing just because the name is so fun to say!
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
@@yellowdog762jb yes I believe so but still need to know how to recognize what are water sprouts and where does it fruit so I can prune shortly. I am not entertained by the name after living in Hawaii for 15 years, Asian words are very familiar but I get your humor for Westerners!
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb Жыл бұрын
@@ooohlaa13 Water sprouts almost always go straight up and they are long and thin compared to the rest of the growth on the tree. I'm assuming that your persimmon fruits like mine. If so, it will fruit off of spurs on wood that grew last year. If you look closely at the branches you will see a difference in the color of the bark between last year's wood and older wood. If you can, try to leave some new growth when you prune. Life got in the way last year and I didn't prune last winter. I need to take my tree height down by about 4 feet so I can reach fruit to pick it. I have a few branches that are also too low now from the weight of the fruit pulling it down. If I prune it as hard as I should, 2023 won't be a good persimmon year for me. Thos past year my individual fruit size was only about 60% as large as it was the year before because the tree over produced lots of small fruit. To add insult to injury we had a long dry spell, and even with irrigation the tree dropped lots of fruit. So I got a low number of small fruits this fall. I learned my lesson on the watering and the pruning.
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
@@yellowdog762jb excellent thorough info thanx so much ... Florida hurricanes and high winds often blow off my young fruit when golf ball size. I usually have only about 15 going into ripening and then lose some again. It is a small tree but not that young, about 12 years? I get lots of blossoms but they don't tie up that well into fruit for some reason. This year I got only 7 but they were lush and large and very sweet. I let them get very soft before eating. I am in competition here in NC Florida with the squirrels, rodents and insects as well. Thanx again
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb Жыл бұрын
@@ooohlaa13 My pleasure! We have squirrels in the area, but we also have some rescue cats that were once feral. We trapped them, had them vetted/spayed, and eventually tamed them. We keep them in at night, but they have a cat door they can use to go out during the day. They are pretty good at keeping squirrels out of our yard most of the time. Our major fruit enemies are mocking birds and stink bugs. We're on the Texas Gulf Coast, but we don't get as many storms as you guys do. The occasional hard freeze that we get every 3 to 5 years plays havoc with our citrus though. I lost a 15 ft Moro Blood Orange 2 years ago that I really miss.
@one4sorrow
@one4sorrow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you expect your persimmon to crop this season? I'm struggling with pruning my potted Jiro Persimmon; I don't want to cut off all the new growth since they only fruit on new wood ... I suspect I'm going to be forced to give it a hard prune as it is unbalanced with a tall central leader and a scaffold branch that is severely drooping on one side 😩
@yellowdog762jb
@yellowdog762jb Жыл бұрын
Speaking from personal experience, it's better to get it right now, than to finally decide to do it in a couple of years. Persimmons grow fast so do what needs to be done now and you'll have lots more fruit two years from now, and in years to come, than you would otherwise. I'm having those kinds of regrets now. Last summer I moved a nectarine that I should have moved the year before, and I'm still kicking myself for waiting. I'd be expecting fruit this year if I had moved it when I first realized that I should.
@bluefish7809
@bluefish7809 4 ай бұрын
This is open center pruning sytle isnt it?
@edisonpereira2151
@edisonpereira2151 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!!! I need to move my chocolate persimmon tree, any tips? The tree was planted last year, it's about 1 to 2 years old. Thank you.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
If you *must* move the tree, you'll want to wait until it is at peak dormancy, but the ground is still workable. Don't move it until it is fully dormant, because it will be a lot less stressful on the tree. Once it buds out in spring, it's too late, so you must get it moved while it's sound asleep and the ground can be dug. If your ground doesn't freeze, mid-to-late January is best.
@edisonpereira2151
@edisonpereira2151 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener Thank you very much!
@CurlyHairDntCare
@CurlyHairDntCare Жыл бұрын
I just purchased a tree from a nursery. I want to change it to modified center leader. It just went in ground and already fruiting. Is it safe to make the large cut to change it to modified center leader?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
If you significantly alter it while it's growing and fruiting, you may cause it to drop its fruit. Especially if it is a deciduous tree, I'd probably wait until it went dormant in the winter to prune it. Especially if you just planted it, since your real goal this year is to get it to grow roots. Heavily pruning it now could shock the tree.
@MKokoy
@MKokoy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, I have a question, when and which month in the year is better to move and relocate a fig tree from a location to another, the tree is about 10 feet tall and has 5 branches from the root( it's kind of large tree)?
@mrlloydum
@mrlloydum Жыл бұрын
Winter, after all leaves fall off, typically in January for Northern Hemisphere
@im11000
@im11000 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video I put a persimmons youn tree in ground 3 years ago last year had few fruits on it they all dropped the size is a small cherry any idea why they dropped!
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
The tree is likely too young to carry them to maturity. This is normal. Grafted trees think they are the age of the tree the scion wood came from despite being very young, so they tend to overfruit when too young. Alternatively, it also could have been underwatered and went through drought stress.
@im11000
@im11000 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener In north jersey summer how many times a week should I water it
@estelajrey1319
@estelajrey1319 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video when it has flourished?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener Жыл бұрын
You can watch this here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJfOYoh8jLCNg6c
@mamomin55
@mamomin55 2 жыл бұрын
I have 25 feet persimmon tree, it About 5 years old but we never had fruit, so please advise my what to do,
@MrGohphilip
@MrGohphilip Жыл бұрын
Lightly chop the trunk with a knife to tell him that if he doesn’t fruit you are going to cut it down.
@ameramar1010
@ameramar1010 2 жыл бұрын
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@calebdennis4167
@calebdennis4167 2 жыл бұрын
What do you do with all the cuttings?
@Lexethan2011
@Lexethan2011 2 жыл бұрын
Trash.
@leeandbarbbelle9795
@leeandbarbbelle9795 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use tree wound paint on cut limbs?
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
I do not.
@domlamwaitung
@domlamwaitung Жыл бұрын
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@SCRT
@SCRT 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: You’re reading this comment before your even watched half the video 😂
@mailasun
@mailasun 8 ай бұрын
False. I finished the whole thing
@aes30006
@aes30006 7 ай бұрын
You must not be very smart. Stick to being quiet.
@haubui5481
@haubui5481 2 жыл бұрын
What is your tree looks like now?
@philiprandazzo39
@philiprandazzo39 2 жыл бұрын
Why do persimmons drop some or all of the fruit.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
That could happen for many reasons. The most common reasons are: 1. The tree isn't mature enough to carry fruit yet. 2. The tree is undergoing drought stress and dropping its fruit as a result. 3. The variety requires cross-pollination. Some Asian persimmons and most American persimmons require cross-pollination.
@artsnow8872
@artsnow8872 Жыл бұрын
Fruit-drop is common to persimmons. Some varieties drop more than others. My tree drops about 20-30 fruit during the summer and fall. I picked about 100 persimmons last year and this year from an 8 foot tall Asian tree, in late October (Maryland, USA).
@MrGohphilip
@MrGohphilip Жыл бұрын
It is called self thinning. If you water it enough it will not drop too many!
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
@@artsnow8872 do you wait until they are a bit soft before harvest? I like to but sometimes rodents or insects get them and my tree rarely produces more than 10 survivors from Florida hurricane winds.
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have thought it would be less stressful for the tree when it's actively growing and can heal over the open wounds faster so disease doesn't take over.
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
Deciduous trees are best pruned when they’re dormant. Think of it like having surgery when you’re under anesthesia and unconscious versus surgery when you’re wide awake. Pruning a tree when it is out of dormancy would be like having an amputation when you’re wide awake. Not fun! 😮
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener heh, not sure that analogy is quite the same. :P though I guess it does kinda make sense to trim things before the tree tries to put growth hormones into buds you'd otherwise trim. I've just been getting into growing trees relatively recently TBH and there seems to be a lot of conflicting opinions and hearsay involved.
@ooohlaa13
@ooohlaa13 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMillennialGardener eeks great example! owie!
@irenelester1348
@irenelester1348 Жыл бұрын
Need to have a better back ground. Hard to see the cutting that you're making. The fence looks like the tree.
@sportsonwheelss
@sportsonwheelss Жыл бұрын
Seriously, Japanese saw and he pull out a Japanese carpenter saw for lumber work? Hello! it is a tree with green wood.
@getupgrow9902
@getupgrow9902 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video 👍
@TheMillennialGardener
@TheMillennialGardener 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
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