Living with the 2017 Triumph Tiger 800 XRX - Long Term Review

[@als5864]

Re-watched this review as I have owned a 2017 Tiger 800 XRx now for 18 months and 10K miles. Your review remains spot on, TMF! Average fuel economy approx 47 MPG (so I look to fill up every 150-200 miles). No maintenance surprises, engine is awesome, and throttle balance still dead on. Chain lube every 330 mi, cleaning every 1000 miles, and have adjusted chain twice as required for tension. Been running it in sport mode, with regular mode now being my rain mode. The Metzlers are ok, but I am replacing them this month (rear is cupped, front is at wear limit) with some Continental TKC70's for better off-road (and blighted paved road) performance. Added some heated grips, a MRA X-screen to extend the stock screen above the highest setting, and a top box for commuting storage. Insurance for me in a major metro area in the US is about $350/yr for full coverage, $100 less than it was the first year ($1000 deductibles). A solid all-around bike that has enough power to do what you want.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you're getting on with it OK - great bikes these......but you know that.

[@michaelpullen8527]

When there’s nothing on TV and the wife insists on another cooking show, this is my number 1 fall back to watch. Just love your detailed information videos. Just hope now sponsored by a big company that they become skewed to be best for the company’s needs. Keep up the great work.

[@catdaddy3302]

The engine was upgraded in 2018. I love my 2019 800 XRx Tiger. I’ve got a 95 BMW R1100 GS for serious off-road riding. The Tiger fits my daily needs. Cheerio!

[@hcor4982]

I've seen and read many Tiger 800 reviews, and I'm really impressed with how thorough you are. Informative and entertaining! Thank you very much!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you found it of use Herloux - thanks for watching!

[@Gorbyrev]

Thanks for that. A couple is weeks ago thieves broke into the house to get the keys for my Street Triple. Next week one of these will be replacing it. Really appreciate the insights into riding and ownership. Proper public service broadcasting! Greatly appreciated.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Sorry to hear that Mark :0(

[@mentalplayground]

13:08 I got Tiger 800 xrx as loan bike. Spend most of the day with passenger. Total about 180 Miles in Wales , Black Mountains. No issue at all for a rider, good score from passenger as well.

[@joeswallow4393]

I ride a tiger 800 too. I think my only real con with with bike (but is also a positive) is the heat, on warmer days the heat produced from the bike and the setup of the radiator / fan is directed straight onto your legs. Can get a bit annoying or uncomfortable in the summer or on warmer days, but on the colder days it's very welcome. Good review though 👍

[@tayoidowu11]

I have been enjoying your reviews. I am looking for a good/robust/reliable adventure bike and your informative videos are helping.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to be of assistance!

[@taebert]

As for the fuel gauge response, it probably uses an integrator circuit between the sensor and the readout. That would prevent the gauge from being affected by fuel sloshing around, but also introduces latency int he gauge response.

[@andyturner9836]

A fair review TMF.... Owned a 2016 XRX and found it a good workhorse of a bike, that being said much preferred the engine in my previous Street Triple. A far more feisty and entertaining ride.... Personally think the Tiger needs another 20 h.p and then would be nigh on perfect. Regarding the oem Metz tyres... found they white lined horribly, and on the joke for roads up here in north Yorkshire felt like I was forever having to correct steering. This was easily cured with a pair of Michelin PR 4,s... transformed the ride quality no end especially with wet weather feel, can,t recommend them highly enough for the Tiger. Now own a Suzuki GSXS 750.... an interesting little bike which is proving quite entertaining although I confess to missing the Tiger,s cruise control and heated grips... bye eck! I hate winter.... Roll on spring!.Keep er shiny side up mate.

[@robdunn3650]

Having just purchased the factory low version of this bike, I am confident that I’ve made the right choice thanks to your excellent review. Cheers👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations on your new machine - great choice!

[@bobz1736]

Ive got a 2015 XCx here in Thailand and absolutely love it. As you say a great all-rounder with almost a split personality with that wonderful engine. I do quite a bit of two up touring with luggage and with the WP suspension on the XCx it's so comfy and controlled. No lack of power for such riding. In fact I'm off on a 2500kms tour next week to ride some of the more beautiful hills up north. P.s. you never mentioned the handling or brakes on your review ... otherwise fab as usual

[@raymorris952]

Fuel gauge, can bus my friend, it's computer controlled, it measures the movement of the float before giving the reading, makes for a more accurate gauge, it's pinched from the car makers, remember when your fuel gauge would wander up and down round bends and Hill's?

[@bigdavezz2603]

I have a 2016 Tiger 800 XRT and had it from new.. I'm struggling to find a bike to replace it... The Tiger 800 just does everything I want.. commute to work all year round, touring two up (I have the Expedition panniers and topbox), thrash out at weekends...I'm 6' 3" and size wise it's perfect with the seat at the highest position. Nothing from the Japanese Big Four excites me, KTM are too expensive, not ridden a Multistrada so couldn't comment on Duc's. The only bikes I might trade it for is the new F850GS or a R1200GS, or of course another Tiger... especially the new ones with the TFT dash. The Tiger 800 XRT is the perfect all rounder.... and the heated grips and heated seats are a godsend in winter... only thing that annoys me is when I have to clean it... too many nooks and crannys... I also felt the front end was missing something and fitted the "beak" off the XC series Tigers, along with Triumph engine crash bars which enhances the XR's looks.. Nice review TMF...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Bigdavezz - and i agree re the beak, needs one......

[@als5864]

Maybe you should just keep it, unless you want the adjustable suspension on the 2018 Tiger 800 XRT model. Realize you could tweak the forks and add an adjustable aftermarket shock to your 2016 for less $$ - which would give you an even greater custom feel. Good luck!

[@peterphoenix6471]

how many kms have you done on yours? any maintenance needed in that time?

[@carlosandleon]

hows the wind buffeting?

[@jameslynch5716]

I have a 2011 tiger800 and have done a few 16hour days on it with no problems. the bike is top heavy and the heat from the engine is pretty bad but over all a really good touring boke.

[@justdad53]

I owned a 955 Tiger and a 1050 Tiger, I think the 800 is the best of the bunch includes the original 885 Tiger. I want to get the Tiger 1200 but the 800 really does the job. Balanced bike that does everything well without excess of anything.

[@fredkeal1238]

I bought the exact model in the same colour a week ago with panniers and it's just as you describe. It ticks all of the boxes and is a beautiful machine. I am in South Australia where the roads are good and a lot less traffic than the UK so the bike is free to do it's thing. Not much need for heated grips here.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one - enjoy Fred!

[@rejects101]

I had the first version 800XC. I did 38k miles in 2.5 years and had the original chain and sprockets on it when I traded it in for a KTM. I did have a Scottoiler which obviously helped. We had 2 touring holidays one all over France and Germany and the other to Slovenia in atrocious weather. This was 2 up for 2 weeks and with full panniers and top box. Great bikes.

[@gsmad9738]

Another good vid. As your reviews are so good, I have an idea - have you considered doing reviews on 2nd hand bikes? You could review an older 1200 GS, an 1150, an old Pan.... I think they would generate lots of interest..

[@ShashvatKumar]

Well 2nd Hand bikes reviews will heavily depend on the way they were used or abused by first owner. Now since, the out of showroom bikes all comply to same standards or refinement and hence its easy to take that a benchmark... 2nd hand bikes may vary from being really great and well maintained to horribly abused, hence to find a benchmark to compare isn't easy or practical unless we aren't getting some certified used bikes which again comply to a basic standard of quality.

[@andymanandyman3369]

Excellent idea.....

[@garyhope0103]

Another worthwhile video. I have the 2018 version of the 800 XRx, and they must of watched your video, because it came with heated grips, the much easier windshield movement, and most importantly, the rider mode switch now so much simpler. Having said all this, as I'm still on a long term carch up haha, I'm waiting delivery of my new gt pro, but have loved my 800 since the day I got it, done both UK and European tours (when we were allowed to) lol. Loving the videos.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad we concur Gary and congrats on the new bike....roll on freedom and summer!

[@ronanjordan8744]

Just bought 800 xrx 2018 model only 2000 miles . Had it for a month now and use it every day . Brilliant bike and comfortable. I replaced the halogen bulbs with LED , much better in dark and rain. Fuel economy is good 66-68 mpg . Mine has TFT screen easy to change modes on the run. The screen is not so good as you said in bad weather all goes over your head. Thinking to replace it with touring screen

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for the real world feedback and for watching!

[@singhkrishanu]

The only issue i have seen that people have with this bike is it's insane engine heating which it produces specially if u live in countries that are warm through out the year like India. However this review is just awesome. Grt job.

[@jamesoren7238]

I don't have that issue on my 2016 in Australia, but I have read it being a common issue, although all between sort of when the new style came in until about 2015, so I wonder if they made some changes along the way?

[@Rajdeep_Pandit]

True..i test rode the XRX last Monday and the heating issue remains. I loved everything about this bike. But in warm countries like India it is a pain.

[@mjs.910]

This is one I'm considering next, either the triumph, Honda VFR800X Crossrunner or the MT09 Tracer. It's the tank range, full stand etc... that's swinging me towards the XRX. Great review, very helpful.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Stay tuned Mark - Crossrunner review coming soon!

[@G91YS]

Actually I'm also hesitating with the Crossrunner, Tracer 900 GT, or that Triumph (what difference with XR, XRx and XRt?), or even BMW 750GS and V-Strom 1000. What did you end up buying and why?

[@Rhunyen]

My 2013 Tiger 800xc after ~54k miles on and off-road, plus daily commuting, it’s been the best bike I’ve owned. The only problem was a non-start issue that took 3 warranty repairs to fix in 2016, but it’s worked fine ever since.

[@jarosawskrzypek1373]

You’re doing the best reviews ever! The rest of the guys on youtube should simply close their accounts. Keep it up and many thanks for your great job! Cheers!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

He he, thanks Jarek, glad you're a fan!

[@Nikki_Holland]

Another great and comprehensive review. I rode one of these a few months back and it just didn't float my boat, although I did like the triple sound. Ended up with the T120 as I loved the looks. (now in semi winter hibernation). Thanks again TMF

[@gregstoller1229]

Great review. One of the best. My wife and I both ride tigers. 800 and 1200. Wonderful bikes. Have a great day.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Do you agree with my summary Greg?

[@gregstoller1229]

I do agree with your summary. The 800 is one of the best all rounders I’ve ridden. I live in the Pacific Northwest of the US. It meets the needs that we have here. My wife is a group riding leader here in the Portland Oregon area. “Triumph Tiger Troop.” Look her up on face book. Cheers!!

[@gerhardclaassen9057]

Agreed, the Triumph is more than capable on long distance trips. Im sure you're aware of Lea Rieck that crossed the globe on her 800 XCA. Love your work mate!

[@mikeyboy1998]

I bought one 2 days ago! Can’t wait for the summer

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Have fun!

[@saddle8bag]

I think the reason the fuel gauge takes a little bit is because there's a filtering algorithm. Say it reads the sensor every second. It may base the display's output on an average of the last 30 readings. That's done so that if the fuel is sloshing around the display level isn't jumping around. If you're traveling, you may want to keep an eye on the odometer as a backup to the fuel gauge anyway. I had one stick on about half once out in the middle of nowhere and the bike ran out of gas. Fortunately, I was within a couple miles of a campground (for bear hunters I think) and got a couple gallons off the proprietor for $20. As I headed back toward base, a bear crossed the road. Lovely. As to the lights, the only thing that comes to mind is that if one is seldom used, it'd be less likely to fail near the same time as the one that's on all the time. If both bulbs happened to die concurrently, it could leave one in a lurch. I used to design bits for aircraft and there was a lot of redundancy/contingency for safety built into those too. Probably overkill, but engineers think like that. My question is "engine heat?" Those bikes get a lot of complaints in that regard...at least the older ones.

[@wrkings]

Hi,i had a triumph demo day on Tuesday, all tigers 1200 and 800,i took the tiger 800 xrt,it was really nice,really enjoyed it,first time on adventure bike

[@AkaWilf]

Picked up a metallic red XRt a few weeks ago and very pleased with it so far. My first non-Japanese bike. Looks good with a fabulous engine and gearbox, well equipped too. Heated seats and grips, plus LED fog lights come as standard. Nice to ride except for the noise caused by the screen, regardless of position. Maybe the short (215mm) Powerbronze screen will solve that issue. 3 auxiliary sockets provided, but require adaptors to be of any use. I'm sure Triumph could fit a standard size socket. And finally, the mainstand, which comes factory fitted, is the worst I have ever used. Even my XJR1300 rolls on and off its main stand so much easier. But apart from those minor issues, a great bike...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Steve Wilson Great feedback and glad you like the bike Steve!

[@semajohn]

I bought a 2014 Tiger 800 in June. 8,000 miles later and I can't fault it. Came with quite a few extras so I've only felt the need to make a few changes, which I purchased on the cheap from eBay. Turning circle must be different on the 15 to 17 model as I've found the earlier model to have the smallest turning circle, than any bike I've had recently. For me, it's a great all rounder but not an exciting bike. It's a choice of the head and not of the heart.

[@davidhall39]

Great video.I have the XRx model after the one you are reviewing.One of the bad things is the absence of a centre stand.Triumph dealership offered to fit one for £175!The turning circle is really bad,especially doing U turns.The new 900GT is much better.

[@mrt3976]

excellent unbiased review Mr.flyer. nearly bought one but went for the strom in the end purely down to the way I use my bikes, plus I already have a gs1150 for bigger trips, interestingly the fuel gauge on the suzuki takes an age to register a refill.

[@texrex4580]

Excellent review once agin. Looking forward to the new 800XRx coming out in Feb 2018 which I hope you get chance to review. That's the bike I plan to buy to replace my Vulcan S. Thanks again for your truly comprehensive bike reviews, by far the best available on the internet.

[@charliebaker799]

Rode one yesterday (the owner dropped it and broke his leg). Like you say, from my 30 minutes in the saddle, I think it is very competent bike. It's one of the bikes you can hop on and be comfortable and "at home" on very quickly. Not sure how long it would keep me "entertained" but, then again, it's not that sort of bike.

[@grahamball364]

Hi I’ve just seen your full review on triumph 800 and I would like to say I found it very helpful as I’m looking to at the 1200 xca , at the moment I’m riding a triumph trophy 1200 2002 , I found your video very informative and look forward to move in the future , Graham.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Graham, glad you found them of interest!

[@jblue1299]

Graham Ball , did you get the Triumph 1200 ?

[@paulcoleman8792]

I am test riding one of these on Friday. A really helpful review and on local roads! Thank you!

[@steveizett3340]

Seems to be that the Tiger 800 is a true Swiss Army Knife! I am viewing a xr model tomorrow, has loads of extras including heated grips! I currently have a Bandit 1250.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You'll love it Steve! Let me know how you get on!

[@ewanoffshore]

There's a built in average level reading for the digital fuel gauges, to ensure the level reading doesn't change as you go round corners etc. Cheers, Ewan

[@gavinfraser7784]

I loved your review on the tiger 800 because I went for the XCa model it has heated grips as standard as the seat and your right about the modes I put mine in Rain mode still not really sure if it was but its so comfortable and Smooth to ride im on Bridgestone 501/502 came with bike feels safe on wet or dry not so great on mud or soft grass

[@TheOspre]

Ah... My old stomping ground 20ys ago before moving to Newcastle. Nostalgia or review... I want to buy one. Just have to persuade the misuses. Keep up the brill work!

[@karsten-f5q]

Great review TMF. Got a new XRT back in March and it is by far my best bike ever. Love the tripple and yes, I bought the beak right away

[@ewoutgsa]

Great review mr. TMF! Brings back memories of my first bike: a yellow Tiger 885 with tiger striping on the side. A real tiger that was...

[@_Snikerz]

Fantastic review as always Mr Missenden! This bike is in my top 3 of possible next bikes so was a good watch.. best reviewer on KZbin (plus were the same height which helps lol)

[@garethburningham9467]

TMF, one of the first things I bought for my Tiger was a beak. Finishes off the front end a treat....

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I agree, that's what I'd go for too...

[@reljoy]

I'd like to see you talk about riding very slowly. Is it easy (like on a V-Strom) or do you have to constantly move the handlebars from side to side for balance (like my MT-03)? Also, I'd like to see you put it on the centre stand. Mark Pulling said it was hard to put on the centre stand. Thirdly, I'd like you to see/comment on what others have said about it - in the Tiger's case several have said the OM tyres are rubbish.

[@tomhenderson2575]

I bought the XC version. Had the dealer install handgrips heaters which I really needed. Traveled 1700 miles through cold weather and warm...found the seat to be very comfortable. No butt ache, no back ache. Can travel the back roads or the freeways. Took a while to figure out the cruise control, but found that it is great relief for the hand, even for 30 seconds. Very satisfied.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one Tom.....

[@shaunlawson3849]

What I’ve been told about the single running light situation on bikes are, is that based on research people seem to notice a single running light than both on. Seems fair enough but annoying that people continually say ‘mate your light is broken’

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yeah I've heard that too - I don't buy it - another is "two lights can be mistaken for a car further away, a single light shows it's a motorcycle".......mmmmm

[@jonsykes8780]

With the number of cars running around with only one headlight, seems like 2 on a bike makes it easier to tell them apart.

[@chrisredfield3240]

It's because H7 single filament bulbs are used instead of H4 twin filament bulbs. On main beam. The twin H4 headlghts are not as good.

[@iancurnow9060]

Wow.. another amazing review.! Thank you. As far as the headlights... some of us love the asymmetrical look.!!

[@markvandever]

Did no one mention all the different tools needed to work on this damn thing! jeez, torx, allen, hex head just to remove the same part!

[@nounoufriend1442]

Have Thruxton 1200s at moment love the looks and torquey engine but been looking at these and seem to tick lot of boxes ,comfort , smooth engine . Seen few S/H for good price , don't know what my Thruxton's worth done 54k but still looks nice , hoping for swap as fancy a change for an early 800 XRX as Thruxtons bit hard on my old body LOL

[@ReValveiT_01]

Heated grips are a reasonably priced add-on (around £150 for the Triumph OEMs) Hazards are an integral part of the bike. Besides, if buying new you can always get them to chuck in a few extras (like heated grips).

[@gary2632]

Awesome review- very comprehensive, thank you 🙏

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MrMikey1703]

G'Day Again TMF, I've had my Tiger 800 since new in Sept 2013 before they stuck on the XR nomenclature and added riding modes. Easily the best bike that I have ever owned. I had never kept any bike for more than 18 months before this one and she punches so far above her weight when the riding gets "spirited". I too bought the beak at the front as well as keeping the coloured guard. Really finishes the look of the bike - it is still as ugly as a smacked arse, but it looks like it "should". The only other changes that I deemed "needs" were to throw away the ridiculous screen, free up her breathing & change the front tyre size. I'm 180cm and the buffeting from the standard screen drove me potty. I added a Madstad screen a few years ago which has been a blessing. Also, after the OEM tyres wore out I purchased Michelin Pilot RoadTrail4's. They do a 110/80-19 as opposed to a 100/90-19 which really helped with the handling. I've also put a K&N air filter on as well as an aftermarket slip on pipe. She sounds cranky as a banshee and goes like a greyhound! I now have a serious question: Firstly, I'm feeling the urge to move on as I am starting to feel that I'm pushing her well beyond her design brief. The pegs are scraping constantly & while I can keep a lot of corner speed, I am finding her lacking in power. Now, do you think that I should hang on until the new Tiger 800 and 1200's are available to give them a look over, or do you think that the KTM's are really where it is at for the foreseeable future? I rode the Super Adventure 1290 S last weekend, and besides the screen buffeting, I loved it completely. I still want to ride the 1290 SuperDuke R, just to see if my inner hooligan wants another naked bike, but feel that these Adventure "Sport Tourer" bikes are the best things on the road. Ta, Mike (sorry for the novel).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Actually I think the BMW GSA is really where it's at - having ridden all the (brilliant) KTM's the BMW is still a whisker ahead in my opinion....depends of course what you want to use the bike for, if spirited riding is your thing then get a KTM, if all round comfort and long distance ease is for you then go for the BMW....or wait and see what the new Tiger 1200 is like...

[@paulellis8929]

These reviews are excellent.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@Bazza47]

I test rode one 2 years ago but preferred the XCx because of the WP suspension though either bike would IMO be worthy of being on anybody's short list looking for a middleweight adventure bike and for anything other than 2 up touring it was a better option for me than the much heavier Gen1 Explorer, but the wife chose the GS over both . Glad to see they appear to have solved the buffeting MF, though looking at the bikes at the show the rear footrest hangers are still part of the main frame and stick out quite a bit which would result in the frame being written off if they get bent, but that's a minor point on a bike that is probably one of Triumphs best models IMO.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers - always good to have you along! All the best - TMF

[@Zeriod101]

The new 2018 model is coming with a full colour TFT screen, an adjustable screen so I'm looking forward for when you review the newer model.

[@sidhead1]

Great review thank you. Very informative which all reviews were like this. Do you have a review of the BMW F700gs?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Err - I can't remember!! I think so....might have been the 800 though...

[@Shifty1050]

The tiger was on the short list before I chose my Sprint, it was a close call but I'm still happy with my choice. Great vid as usual TMF 👍🏼😃

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you Shifty 1050 (gives me a smile every time I say your name)....

[@Shifty1050]

TheMissendenFlyer genuine LOL 👍🏼

[@vincedean7433]

Hey TMF, I love all of you videos. I appreciate the time that you take to produce such a professional video. Also refreshing to see some motorcycle vids from a responsible middle-aged regular chap. I'm tired of watching the hooligans. One question for you though, why is it is such a big deal to you whether the fuel gauge immediately responds to a fill-up. It's not as if you are going to hop on the bike and think to yourself, "Crap, the bike is empty, I better fill it up." so long as the gauge is accurate within a few miles, what's the big deal?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

+Vince Dean It’s no big deal, just a petty annoyance of mine, don’t see why the gauge can’t be immediately accurate - I’ve never had a car that does that!

[@hamishsb]

Great honest and informed review done in a relaxed and professional way. Have been enjoying your reviews of stuff recently as I’m new to the bike scene and getting in to it in my 50s. Keep up the good work and thanks again 👍🏻😊

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Hamish - glad you liked it!

[@charlieb3497]

Triumph have produced some great bikes, recommend you ride a 800 tiger before you buy! If you can live with the turbulence that hits your head and noise when riding go for it! Check forums for screen alternatives 🤦‍♂️ sold mine after 8 weeks 😬 got the street triple now 😅 happy days ps beware TFT display 🤔

[@BulldogGaz]

Nice review TMF style ;-) as far as the lights are concerned here in Germany you only have one on which anoys me too so it's not conciderably a Manufacturer issue. I'Ve ridden this myself and was not so impressed and what I don't like as with many of the adventure bikes is the fact that the exaust is so high that one looses room in ones panniers

[@robertgalligan9004]

Thanks for this. Test rode one today. Loved it.

[@WillPower46]

Ive got the 2014 800XC I really like it very much.

[@stephenchapman8344]

Thanks for the review. Only went and bought the 2018 model!

[@guyedwards6696]

totally agree about the double light presence and look. Good vid, thanks

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks

[@kierandavey8225]

What an awesome video. Loving the pros of the bike and in all fairness, the cons you picked up on do not effect me at all. I want hazard lights, once the screens adjusted ill be leaving it alone, and as for the computer thingy, well i wont even be bothering to navigate that so none of the cons effect me :D cant wait to own one.

[@sirrideabit651]

well there goes my 12 month review lol, excellent as usual, they are just a brilliant do all machine, interesting to see what the Tigers for 2018 are like with over 200 engine and chassis changes, hope you manage to get your hands on one of them soon.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well I am looking forward to having a go on the 2018 but I don't think it will be any time soon, I think it's going to be Feb/Mar before they're in dealers and as a lowly You Tuber I'm at the back of the queue for press bikes (although I have put my request in!)....

[@r1ch99]

Great bike. Mine's the 2015 one so no electric gizmos but does have heated grips which i use a lot, unless it's really cold then the Gerbing heated gear comes out which will always beat heated grips hands down. A 35mins dual carriageway ride back from the dealers after purchase caused me real issues with the screen. I'm 5'10. Got a Madstad screen which is just the job. Otherwise, great all round bike. Love the 1200 but it's too heavy for everyday use, so the 800 is ideal. And it's a helluva lot more comfortable than my previous Street Triple, both in the more upright position, and the seat comfort.

[@philbuglass4857]

One issue I have seen with the 'on-board fuel computers' is that they base the miles-to-empty on the *instant* mpg, not the computed 'average mpg'. When they do that, if you slow down the reading keeps climbing higher and higher. Then, give it a bit of welly, and your distance remaining drops like a stone! It's been a while since I actually used one of these, so maybe they have their act together by now, but that was what I found...

[@tigerben4857]

Fuel range can be between 180-220 miles depending how its ridden :)

[@banzai385]

Good review,I bought one of the first ones in 2011 and can't find anything that I prefer. Apart from the screen the bike has been faultless.The Tracer has a great engine and brakes but is unstable at speed, the Africa Twin , Multi Strada, GS , and KTMs all have two cylinder engines so are intrinsically more prone to vibration, the Kawasaki SX is good but riding position does not suit me. That leaves me with the BMW X-R that I love, but that is £15K ,so I am hoping the new Tiger 800 is a gem.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for watching and for stopping buy! All the best - TMF

[@HONMONSTER]

I agree with you about the headlamps.

[@waynecompton7612]

Good Afternoon TMF . A good BRITISH bike ,Thank you for the review and Take Care.

[@ftby59mikeD]

Nice review, I have to question your mpg/range calculation even at 50 mpg with the 5 gal. tank you should see something in the 250/275 miles.

[@macknstyle]

Most likely kilometers

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Well done and thumbs up. You mention two things in various videos that I wholeheartedly agree with. 1st, symmetrical front end designs. Bravo; what was BMW thinking with the S1000 bikes. 2nd, both headlights should light up. Yes! Of course they should. End result? Brilliant front lighting like on the Tiger. However, I don't agree with your seeming like of riding modes. Rain, sport, tour, etc, etc. Whatever and what's the point. Does anybody use these??? Riders learn power dellivery based on conditions as a normal course of events; no need whatsoever for "riding modes" imo; they are gimmicks.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I’m not a fan of riding modes either....

[@robertpinder2307]

I agree. If you can't switch up to a higher gear or control your throttle to match conditions then these gimmicks really won't help.

[@expatbiker1907]

Thanks - looking at one for my next bike. Great second hand buy I think. Did you really throw those trebles?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

"Throw those trebles"?? Not sure I follow?

[@richardchanning8465]

Hi TMF. I like your long term reviews. Not long subscribed. Something to consider adding is applying the stands. E.g. side stand easy to find with the foot? and centre stand is it light to operate? Some riders may need to consider this👍

[@tomhenderson2575]

Richard Channing I have the XC model, a little taller bike, otherwise not much difference. The kickstand is "outstanding". Very easy to find and you only have to push it about a quarter of the way and it extends on its own. Center stand though...its a real beast to use. It's all I can do to get it up on the stand by myself. Maybe others have a better technique for using the center stand.

[@jwfriar]

Great review...appreciate you taking the time. Think I’m gonna upgrade to a Tiger from a Street Twin.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one!

[@steffydog]

I get the heated grips point, but loads of Tigers are sold in warmer places than here in the UK, so that'd be a waste for them, hazards are global, just a thought. Cracking review as always TMF....Ps i subscribed to MCN, after all your videos, free heated grips, and a year in paper format and digital for about £80 ........... bargain, thanks!

[@nathangreen-pl9ut]

Hi there I'm just looking a getting the tiger 800 its a 2013 model do you know if it would be equipped with the different rider modes? This video is very informative and I love watching your video always spot on.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Not sure...sorry!

[@dsimon9s29]

great review. thanks for sharing. i can't wait to see the 2018 models.

[@Yeahbuddylightweigh]

dsimon9 s is these the same ??

[@PatrickVannie]

Would be interested in seeing a comparaison between the updated Tiger 800 and the new BMW F850GS when it becomes available. The tiger probably will have the sweeter engine but the BMW has a lot of electronics going for it and is normally very good at integrating those into the bike (for instance i think BMW integrates navigation the best way out of any motorbike manufacturer today). Also will be interesting to compare just how good BMW has made its new two cylinder engine in comparaison to the Triumph engine. By the way, love your channel on motorbike reviews. Always a pleasure to see the latest vids. So keep up the excellent job :-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks for the kind comments Patrick - much appreciated! All the best - TMF

[@SuperGreenhobbit]

I've got the 2018 xrx and they have fixed every negative thing you pointed out lol seems Triumph watched this video :D

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I hope so!

[@-DC-]

Great review they really are a good machine these absolutely up with the best in class.

[@owlteachereducation]

Great review as always. Really useful.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you think so!

[@owlteachereducation]

Any recommendations for a topbox that won't break the bank perchance? In Thailand and picking up a 2017 XCX this weekend - has hard panniers but no topbox.@@TheMissendenFlyer

[@aditya4397]

Hi.. Great Review !!!! The new Tiger has been launched and it will be good if you can find a long ride to tell us about the improvements. Also , the front tyre mud guard seems short. In rains does the radiator get all mucky by front wheel spray ?

[@DJShadow1966]

Forgot to say, looking forward to your long term review of the 1200cc versions if you get the chance.

[@davidhough1559]

Cheers for a really in-depth decent quality video

[@r1mac308]

Hi mate, great review as always, keep on, keeping on..👍🏍

[@edwardmadry4299]

What about space under seat? Can I fit there disclock, first aid kit or small rain jacket?

[@whit3o.]

I've seen you mention the "one light" issue before. The reason manufacturers do it is because of depth perception. if you have 2 separate lights on you look like a car that is very far away to oncoming vehicles when you're on a dark road. You'll notice that the whole light on the tiger lights up meaning it doesn't look like 2 separate lights when lit up

[@whit3o.]

also, absolutely love all your videos!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you!

[@michaeldismukes4439]

Wondering if you have looked into the notion of resale/ depreciation of the various long term reviews? That, of course being a large portion of cost of ownership and value.

[@geoffhalsey2184]

I heard that the two headlights thing was an issue for car drivers, who supposedly at night assumed that it was a car a long way off. Personally, I'd rather be able to see more than with a single light.

[@palantir135]

Nice review. Miles and gallons; always a problem for me because I haven't got a clue how much that is so I now have an app for calculating.

[@ThomasMeeks]

The big question is; would you pick this over an F800GS? (Or the upcoming F850GS, but we won't know until test rides start happening). Good work Sir!

[@spetersonmusic]

I have never understood nor preferred seeing a single headlight on a bike. It's never made any sense to me; if you have two headlights you have twice as much light and IMHO, more light = better. Pretty simple. Logic! I really like the Tiger 800. I think heated grips are a necessity. I'm interested to see what the Tiger 800 series offers once they move to TFT screens.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I saw the 2018 model for the first time at the NEC show on Monday, looks very nice I must say.....