My Hero Academia - 5x23 Tenko Shimura: Origin - Group Reaction

MHA goes into the gruesome past of Shigaraki's origin as he goes toe-to-toe with ReDestro in Season 5 Episode 23! The Normies review and discuss the intense episode after the reaction.
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[@rjai5003]

The way Shigaraki’s mom tried to comfort him even though her body was falling apart always gets me. She might have made mistakes, but she loved her son

[@afonmetin2938]

well nana shimura got assasinated as a hero, so she doesnt step in for a grander reason , the dad is just stupid. Kid abusing for watching a picture? he deserved dying

[@fourtoozero7062]

@@afonmetin2938 lel what. are u serious?

[@RikXtreme4]

@@afonmetin2938 its obviously far deeper than a "kid looking at a picture. Dad clearly had his own issues with his mother and heroes in general. In his own twisted way, preventing his children from becoming heroes would maintain them to be a family. His actions and the way he went out about doing things didn't help tho, but its not surprising. "Hurt people hurt people".

[@afonmetin2938]

@@RikXtreme4 im not judging the ideology, im judging the manners. He could just convince the kid in a logical way instead of just fucking him up every single time. U dont teach your children to not be a hero by slapping him god damn it

[@RikXtreme4]

@@afonmetin2938 Again, the dad is damaged. And everytime he conducts his "parenting" its rooted in unresolved emotions and dysfunction. The rest of the family were too passive too.

[@JadedArtworks]

16:15 “ this can’t be the first time this kind of stuff happens in this kind of universe” Chris is right in season four Eri’s backstory is that her quirk manifested by erasing her father from existence from a single touch

[@joelsasmad]

Literally Shiguraki is Eri with more anger and being found by the worst possible person.

[@QuaseemS]

@@joelsasmad overhaul was a pretty terrible person as well, his way of stopping her quirk was to just disassemble and rebuild her.

[@RikuHarada6996]

@@joelsasmad yeah that isn't really true at all. Eri was taken care of by Overhaul who cut her up so bad she even died only to be resurrected by Overhaul's quirk. While Shigaraki was groomed to give in to his urges and do anything he wants.

[@AstroRocket]

Probably totally forgot. I've noticed that about MHA reactors. Like how 3 of them in this one had forgotten that Nana was Shigaraki's grandmother. What is it about this show in particular that causes so many to forget or ignore these details? I feel like you don't see it to the same extent with other anime or live action reactions. Its just weird

[@joelsasmad]

@@RikuHarada6996 Yeah. Being tortured like that is bad, but explicitly being groomed to be a worse person would make you a worse person than that.

[@xedusk]

An interesting bit someone pointed to me about this episode is that all the family members died the same way they treated Shigaraki. His dog died just being a loyal pet; His sister died trying to save herself, abandoning him; His mother died trying to comfort him; His grandparents died doing nothing but watching from the sidelines; and his dad died trying to solve the problem with violence.

[@katchkartoons]

Wow.

[@TheWahoo65]

Damn

[@TheZapan99]

Even the impressive house died in a spectacular way.

[@athernandez666]

Poetic

[@dionysianapollomarx]

Norm MacDonald RIP said a perfect joke is one where the build up is similar in structure to the punchline. Shimura Tenko's origin story is his Joker origin story. It's a tragedy to us, but it's his "Hero's Journey".

[@mrrd4444]

Chris laughing in surprise from how effed up it is, I feel that.

[@TheZapan99]

I want them to call it a "dead corgi" each time they laugh at the wrong moment, now!

[@silversrayliegh5924]

That was an Eren laugh

[@GeeklyGoods]

Right, like this shit is THAT messed up

[@RikXtreme4]

@@silversrayliegh5924 "Meat.."

[@RainBow-gn7sl]

@@silversrayliegh5924 damn 'Eren laugh' is super accurate

[@LMMotoss]

“We knew this for awhile” I was shocked at how many reactors forgot this, thanks for saving the rest of the group 😂

[@clubhousemusic1]

16:30 Technically that happened with Kirishima in his Flashback, he mentioned how he accidentally cut his eye when his quirk first started appearing.

[@matt6870]

Eri.

[@LamirLakantry]

And Deku broke his arm and legs. Imagine if it manifested naturally one day when he punches back against Bakugo. Arm and Bakugo chunks across the wall. Ashido's quirk is also dangerous. Acid. Overhall. Kaminari. Tokoyami. Lots of deadly quirks.

[@tanmaysharma5802]

Eri literally rewinded her father out of existence

[@VegaSlides]

@@LamirLakantry A lot of quirks are weaker when they first appear so it's usually not TOO bad when they manifest. Bakugo was just making sparks when he first got it after all.

[@LamirLakantry]

@@VegaSlides good point.

[@nobushige33]

that near full 10 seconds of speechless shock after the episode ended at what they just witnessed. That's why I couldn't wait for this reaction.

[@GeeklyGoods]

Right?! Definitely the darkest episode of the season and one of the darkest of the series!

[@BlackStar-gv1wl]

Suraj I’m so proud of your for saving that nana shimura scene 😂😂

[@glossixe8138]

FR!!

[@danielestrada1271]

He commandered those 2 braincells shared amongst the group

[@MandatoryFruit]

Horikoshi does actually foreshadow Shigaraki's backstory a few times in earlier seasons. He frequently refers to the hand on his face as "father" for instance. Which as we now know, is literally the hand of his father. Also, annoyed that they censored Shiggy getting three of his fingers ripped off.

[@GeeklyGoods]

That’s true! And yeah they went the Deku in the tournament route for those fingers 😭😂

[@sentrazyven762]

Why'd his fingers get removed?

[@dejisauce6025]

@@sentrazyven762 Re-destro removed them so all his five fingers won’t decay him in the manga and the anime chose to censor that

[@sentrazyven762]

@@dejisauce6025 riiiiiight....I thought I recalled that but the anime didn't include it

[@namelessking111]

@@dejisauce6025 Oh my God, now it makes fucking sense. I always thought it was dumb why Redestro would literally touch his whole hand during that scene and not get decayed. The anime better not do this dumb censoring again next season.

[@tonerc.8191]

btw "the bad man" we can assume is AFO. Nana Shimura knew she had to fight him too and that's how she died.

[@GeeklyGoods]

The Bad Man is definitely AFO!

[@urekmazino7785]

The crumbling we have been seeing from Tenko’s quirk is actually censoring. Its supposed to look that bloody from the first season. They didn’t turn grey or people thought it was dust, it actually had color and blood oozing out from the cracks. So Yes, his quirk was supposed to be that bloody from the beginning but the studio had to censor it.

[@ace6897]

In the flashbacks, for sure. But I’m pretty sure in the present his decay is so fast it literally decays everything including blood

[@stephenhinds3160]

Nah it worked like that in present day too in the manga

[@necroxisz]

You see this when Shiguraki fights fights Aizawa way back in Season 1, when he puts his hand on Aizawa's elbow and he doesn't start turning to dust, but his skin cracks and you see the blood.

[@AntonioSilva-bn5ym]

@@necroxisz no. Actualy, in the manga your quirk decay everithyng like shigaraki's decay in war scene

[@dionysianapollomarx]

@@AntonioSilva-bn5ym no

[@Vo1dGod]

In all honesty the censoring is the ash effect/crumbling. In the manga it’s actually bloody bits and pieces

[@Vo1dGod]

@@Kaiser_MHA yeah, I did a re-read and saw that yeah, I forgot that he was holding his quirk back for a bit

[@itsjustvin7630]

@@Kaiser_MHA gonna keep reminding that the bloody chunks happened to Overhaul's body shield too

[@lilgabriel0517]

Easily the best episode, the way Nana’s voice was in the background while Shigaraki was killing everyone was amazing “I hope your life is full of laughter” 10/10

[@tadcooper9733]

.....best episode what? Of the past couple? No. Of the whole show? LMFAO No.

[@kta8838]

@@tadcooper9733 calm down tf

[@davidyodo24]

@@tadcooper9733 i wonder why you so upset about 🤣

[@tranquilk5912]

@@tadcooper9733 you know it could just be their opinion on it being the best episode. I mean my favourite episode for me was Twice's because he's my favourite character of the series

[@tadcooper9733]

@@tranquilk5912 Calling something your favorite and calling something the best are two very different things. Stay in school.

[@kaizukokage3yearsago70]

His mother died rushing to hug him that's really feels bad man. A Mother's love is unconditional stuff and how she tried to be there for him despite what he did.

[@joelsasmad]

From another point of view the whole issue Shiguraki had with her and his grandparents was that they would try to comfort him and say everything is alright when his abusive dbag of a father mistreated him instead of actually doing anything about it.

[@kingsosshootaiwillslapcash6300]

His father should have never stopped him from liking hero’s, he was a little psychotic kid who was waiting to be pushed over the edge.

[@jackmcbride9046]

@@justghosteveryone897 I mean no love is unconditional

[@joelsasmad]

@@kingsosshootaiwillslapcash6300 I think your mischaracterizing him a little here. He was a perfectly normal kid who's dad had been abusing him before this specific incident and pushed him to an edge here the stress of just being at home caused him to develop a psychosomatic itch. Unfortunately like Eri he developed a ridiculously dangerous quirk and people where dying before he was even fully conscious of what was going on. When his father beats him with the pipe he lashes out at him but that is honestly not that abnormal a response all things considered.

[@purplemoss3313]

talking about the ''unconditionally'' love of a mother... when all this began because Nana wanted to be a hero more than a mother.

[@nerd660]

Suraj: we knew this for a while Oh thank God!

[@skeet9394]

Chris: well i forgot

[@davidyodo24]

Thank God, i thought they all will forgot

[@Umbra2079]

I was about to leave their channel and never come back.

[@sandeepbarua1926]

Their memory is so weak.

[@Poke-ladd]

The dog died comforting him, sister died with her back turned in fear, mother died trying to comfort him and grand parents died helplessly as bystanders while the father died by rage

[@joelsasmad]

They died as they lived...

[@danielrosa9502]

@@joelsasmad that was so raw, i love it

[@randomaccount4950]

@@danielrosa9502 it’s was also so copied

[@wortwortwort117]

The Bad man Allmight's predecessor was referring too was All for one

[@cosmicpyro]

I genuinely didn’t think that people needed to be told this, because I thought it was super obvious. But after watching a bunch of reaction videos, there are so many people who didn’t put that together.

[@nairagar7338]

I wonder what shigaraki would think if he knew that it would come in full circle(like if it weren't for AFO they might've had a somewhat ok family i guess), how he just became one of the chess pieces of AFO. tho imma not sure since I'm not caught up with the manga.

[@danielruiz8259]

13:32 It wasn't an artistic choice, that's how it's visualize Shigaraki's quirk in the manga, while in the anime, when used on people, is always censored by having him basically turned the person into a white stone-like statues, then they either crumble or turn to dust.

[@AntonioSilva-bn5ym]

war arc scene decay disagree with you

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

@@AntonioSilva-bn5ym That was full powered Decay.

[@ionlycreatedthissothatican6859]

Baby shigaraki: chunk Chadgaraki: dust

[@bigboi4404]

Mikey is on the right track - the "crumbling" is just the anime censoring what really happened - in the manga it was very explicit and gory - they decayed,flesh,blood and all - so thats why there is a pile of blood and bones as the end-result - its weird that they felt like they could let that in,but had to censor the actual process of decay lmao

[@AF-kh1ki]

Its because of the timeslot MHA currently airs at. Japan weird af. Big tiddy animes are fine but god forbid we show blood and gore for more than a split second. Anime with more mature content tend to be aired later in the day to have more freedom with what they're able to show.

[@nahuelcolombo1672]

@@AF-kh1ki To be fair is WAY more mild to see big tiddy anime girl than a dog crumbling to damn bloody pieces, i mean, japan is indeed weird, but this isnt an unreasonable censorship tbh

[@tristanj760]

Yeah, I would actually argue western (or at least American) standards of censoring tend to be weirder. Generally violence (such as shooting, stabbing, beating the shit out of people, etc) is seen as more acceptable than a little bit of titty.

[@josuegarro5437]

@@nahuelcolombo1672 yeah but decay has always been portrait like that since season 1, they can’t just change it, actually decay on the fist chapters of the manga were showed exactly like that, someone turning into a stone like being and being desintegrated, it wasn’t until MVA that they actually show it like the body just turning into a million pieces while the blood leaves it’s base

[@cpMetis]

Remember how Aizawa's arm looked in season 1 when shigaraki got him? All bloody and fucked? THAT'S what his quirk does to people. The dust is censorship. Imagine what it looks like between Aizawa's arm and the pool of blood and guts....

[@catherinelee1206]

Shigaraki's quirk decayed Aizawa's elbow till it reached his muscles. There wasn't any blood.

[@kameken111]

@@catherinelee1206 That's exactly right. It's because in this episode he's still a kid and doesn't have control over his QUIRK powers. As the AFO later explains, he's subconsciously suppressing his powers.

[@trinova9581]

@@catherinelee1206 There was in the manga for that scene. Likewise, the goon Shiggy kills when they encounter Overhaul also turns into a bunch of bloody chunks in the manga. See Chapter 125.

[@itsjustvin7630]

@@trinova9581 finally someone remembers

[@edwinseda897]

They really forgot Nana was Shigaraki’s grandmother

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

They forgot Nomu's are people within the same episode, lol.

[@Deva963]

Yeah, this channel is one of the worst reaction channels on youtube. They literally can’t remember anything.

[@bourbon6625]

yeah don't be surprised only Rana Navi and Chris reactions are real, they forgat bigger stuff like the hand on Shigaraki's face he called that hand Father since season 1 and they said it in season 2 and 3 as well and they think it his mom, they forgot Eri erased her dad from existence, they forgot Nomu are human.

[@InugamiTheHound]

The Normies forget everything, look at naruto, my hero, code geass, AOT, cowboy bebop etc..

[@mintaroum.9096]

they dont?

[@athenamitchell790]

In the letter, "the bad man" is referring to All for One and that fight is where she died. She really had no other choice but to fight All for One.

[@theeLonelyRedPanda]

His quirk awakened worst possible time, like his sister was gonna apologize that's why she searched for him, doggo was just sitting there in silence, mother had enough of her husband and was finally standing up for shigi and herself, grandparents guess weren't gonna stand by but rather stood firmly behind the wife, dad semi on the verge of change and repentance since the rereading of the letter, and the talk with the wife, he asked if the kids were okay.

[@quintero2406]

I love their reactions at the end. After watching it, they literally have no words. I can relate

[@otiscunningham4477]

Nah the blood has always been a thing. Shigaraki's quirk breaks people down, but that was too visceral for the anime at times so they added the dust and crumbling effects. In the manga u just see blood squirting out as the dog is cracking.

[@randomaccount4950]

It was always dust in the manga. It became blood and stuff after this

[@KristofWakoli]

I mean, Deku got training to fight Shiggy with Overhaul last season. Re-Destro, with his percentage based strength quirk, is just Deku training for Shiggy. the backstory just showed that the villain known as Tomura Shigaraki could have been better if there was any intervention.

[@gamingdemigodxiii5630]

Like the Joaquin Phoenix Joker?

[@KristofWakoli]

@@gamingdemigodxiii5630 almost exactly like Joaquin Phoenix's Joker. And if you look, you'll see all of the different people Deku has helped over the series in Shiggy's situation, like how Eri had a spontaneous quirk that hurt a family member, Dad being like Kota resenting heroes, etc.

[@saolal]

@@KristofWakoli the biggest difference I perceive between eri and shigi is that shigi’s quirk has a VERY high likelihood of being implemented by AFO 🤷‍♂️

[@jennacreighton8432]

I had the same reaction as Chris when I read the manga panels. You just see the dog…and you know it’s gonna happen…and then lil Shigaraki is crying, and you’re like, “No, no, no,” and then it happens, and it’s such a visceral moment that if you really do laugh like, “Wtf???” Like someone say down and drew and wrote this. It’s fucked up. Sometimes the emotion just comes out that way.

[@beef_chopstick_ramen3220]

"and just like that, i didnt itch anymore." always makes me wonder if the itch he had as a kid was him wanting to kill his family for abandoning him.

[@iamzedv1914]

Twice has been confirmed to be the most OP character in the mha world because he has no physical limit unlike everyone else. his only restriction is his mental state.

[@raec5426]

His clones do get weaker the more he makes of them, more easily prone to be damaged.

[@sitarsenshi8512]

@@raec5426 yes but the the thing about him is he makes two perfect clones then those clones each make two perfect clones. That's why he's limitless

[@raec5426]

@@sitarsenshi8512 I mean the next clone is still weaker than the first.

[@manicbomba2106]

He is definitely broken

[@ccddtw123]

@@raec5426 yeah but he can reproduce them infinitely eventually who ever he is fighting is going to get tired and by that point he could just over power them with even more clones like imagine an infinite wave of shigirakis

[@maibignutt6434]

I was scared they might censor and ruin the hell out of shigaraki's backstory but I'm glad they managed to do it justice🙏

[@MrEdit-ic7th]

Even though the adaptation of MVA as a whole was a bit underwhelming and rushed, I'm so happy they knocked everything with Shigaraki out of the park at least

[@patricktorres1292]

@@MrEdit-ic7th As an anime only watcher, I've absolutely been loving this arc and it's easily one of the best in the show imo.

[@MasterPoppers]

@@patricktorres1292 If you're open to it, I would highly recommend reading the manga for this arc. It is exceptional and expands on so many things that were unfortunately cut this season.

[@aSackOfDerp]

@@MasterPoppers I did check it out because so many manga readers were bitching and moaning. Boy do they exaggerate, there was barely anything cut out and even then the only important thing IMO is the spinner stuff.

[@GeeklyGoods]

Yeah! There’s some censorship but honestly it’s tasteful and still dark enough to see he had a very troublesome past

[@chick1000123]

I can't believe they acted like Nana Shimura being Tenko's grandmother was new information lmao

[@randomaccount4950]

The remembered after one of the people with a horrible memory reminded them

[@bolt2134]

You want to know something funny? This arc was cencored a LOT unlike it was in the manga, one of the bigget complains the anime had was that they always cencored a lot of scenes in all the seasons, it doesn't reach invincible levels of violence and gore but if the anime was adapted 100% like in the manga then kids would not be able to watch it.

[@GeeklyGoods]

Yeah.... especially this arc. This arc was far bloodier in the manga LOL

[@amberaizen]

I feel someone in the group is always missing for the best episodes, I really wish rana was here for this one lol

[@FeyPhantom]

Toga lost a LOT of blood. It was somewhat censored in the anime, but remember, she was exploded from the inside, along with a bunch of explosions to her body including point-blank in her face.

[@eastsidereviews727]

I'm guessing "The Bad Man" is All for One, which adds a new level to the complicated relationship with Tenko/Tomara, AFO, and Nana. I really enjoy this arc as it adds layers to the villains and points out the flaws of hero society. We see in so many superhero stories like Spider-Man and Batman that their secret identity is to protect their loved ones, but this shows the flips side and how dangerous things can be if the hero full abandons their family and focuses on being a hero full time. Had Nana focused more on her son and maybe stepped back from being a hero, so many lives may not have been lost with her not being in his life.

[@Zoidberryable]

AFO was hunting and killing OFA successors though. Her husband's death was probably connected to this as well (he's certainly not above going after families). It's pretty unlikely she would've been able to just step back so long as she had that power.

[@paradoxlaw3345]

Suraj came in clutch af with that Nana Shimura scene or else the whole episode would be them discussing it.

[@darkshadow2443]

A certain manga page was removed from the adaption. In that scene shigaraki got lost as a child and a man in black suit returned him back to his family just before the manifestation of shigaraki quirk.

[@aleksakurjakov5532]

Chris's inappropriate reaction when dog died really surprised me😢

[@TheSuperNats]

If I lived in this world, I would be terrified of toddlers and kindergarteners just in case their quirk randomly manifested and it’s something horrifying.

[@ericv5435]

Shigaraki's family: tenko, I don't feel so good

[@mykeycuento5576]

"Learned helplessness" look that up. I know it, because that's how it was in my family. I wouldn't give the grandparents, mother, and sister so much accountability for this. Tenko brought this upon his entire household, but we also acknowledge that Nana Shimura had to make a choice between saving the world or her family, and in some cases, that's a not a choice for real-life heroes we have. Later on in the manga this concept will explored further.

[@acetraker1988]

17:00 Bad man refers to All for One who All Mights mentor was fighting, the isolation is ironic cause this only lead him to becoming used by All for One.

[@G-LukeJA]

How long before they realise "The Bad Man" is All For One.

[@MoontariReacts]

This was brutal honestly the darkest episode so far

[@GeeklyGoods]

BRUTAL! Especially compared to the rest of the anime!

[@MoontariReacts]

@@GeeklyGoods Totally caught me off guard

[@GeeklyGoods]

Yeah this episode was definitely on another level for MHA 🤣

[@alexinator-hh5fe]

Shigaraki's story is so sad. He wanted his family to tell him that he could do it. That he could be a hero. Just like Deku wanted his mom to tell him. But they never did, they just accepted what his dad said and did. Just told him to endure the pain and suffering. Until it all burst out.

[@black2542]

Ikr so sad

[@elijahbaker781]

Tomura tried to smile through the pain until pain made him smile.

[@amberaizen]

& then when his sister blamed him for the picture 😩😩 sucks

[@amberaizen]

@Cosmic Lionheart well clearly that didn’t turn out so well for them😅

[@Phanthief95]

@Cosmic Lionheart Yeah, but Shigaraki’s dad had a bit of a hatred towards heroes, & that was the fault of his mother Nana Shimura, who didn’t even let All Might or Gran Torino watch over him from afar.

[@BradleyDS90]

5:10 "Bruh you look like a Cuphead boss" Almost spit out my drink LOL

[@melo13melo]

I didn't notice while watching the episode by I realized they accidentally put Shigaraki's shoes back on then made him barefoot a second later.

[@GeeklyGoods]

Lol whoopsie!

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Also you gotta remember Tenko was five, so this no heroes rule realistically couldn’t have been in affect for too long; especially with the grownups reaction as if this was the first time the father hit him. This to me feels like this was a new problem that was escalating quickly in the household, and not a long on going problem.

[@Rocket1377]

It probably started after he read the letter from Nana Shimura. He may have left it unopened for many years, due to the resentment he felt over his mother "abandoning" him. If he had read those words earlier, things might have been different.

[@JadedArtworks]

THEY CENSORED IT TV in the manga everyone shigaraki’s decays falls apart into bloody chunks of decayed flesh the only thing that turns into dust are inanimate objects

[@efrenarevalo2025]

I'm impressed they remembered Shigaraki's quirk. Good job at remembering at least that.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

We were supposed to learn more about Spinner, as the beginning of this Arc, but it was cut.

[@ImpeccableZentertainment]

What I don't hear anyone talking about is how it can actually be incredibly hard or even impossible to stand up to an abuser in the household. You may want to step in and say something but when someone controls their house through fear it makes it hard to find the nerve to stop them. I grew up in a house like this so I have firsthand experience in this kind of situation.

[@joshuaanderson7027]

the family wasnt scared of him tho also he showed no violence's against the family or yelling and when he said he took it too far and the family said they dont agree with him and wont live with him if he hits the kids and he didnt lash out or shout he understood he took it to far it was just horrible timing becuase im pretty sure he was gonna say sorry to the boy

[@ImpeccableZentertainment]

You have no evidence he was going to apologize, and the rest of the family was scared of him thatsy why they never said anything until it became physical. I grew up in a shit household so I fucking know what that shit looks like

[@joshuaanderson7027]

@@ImpeccableZentertainment he literally said he took it to far so what do you think he was gonna do after that genuine question?

[@ObaREX]

Spinner is great. His life sucks. He never gets a power up. But he still stands up. He voices his opinions. The anime cut out the bits where his relationship with Shigaraki developed but I'm glad they kept in his moment of calling out Trumpet and the rest.

[@JadedArtworks]

I knew they were uploading it today so I looked up their channel to see if it was up yet and got disappointed only to go to another video and then get the notification 🤣 FUCK YEAH NOTIFICATION SQUAD!!!!

[@Matts10100]

Tenko murders his family pet, leaving a pile of blood and flesh on the floor. Chris: *Kawhi Leonard Laugh*

[@skullgamer64]

Thanos: wipes out half of humanity with a snap of his infinity gauntlet. Shigaraki: wipes anything with his fingertips.

[@kelsalareacts]

Someone compared re-destro to Dr. Doofenshmirtz and I can’t unsee it.

[@elijahbaker781]

Shigarakis face at the end was just horrifying. That’s the moment when Tomura became a monster.

[@jarvisfowlkes3200]

Not really it was thanks to OFA

[@elijahbaker781]

@@jarvisfowlkes3200 yeah I know and I think AFO gave Shigaraki his quirk.

[@elijahbaker781]

@@jarvisfowlkes3200 so it was thanks to AFO that Tomuras family fell apart and his father abused him thus causing Shigaraki to go mad.

[@chick1000123]

Yeah? That's why three hours later he was walking down the street feeling guilty and wanting to be saved? Because he was such a monster?

[@ionlycreatedthissothatican6859]

It was never confirmed that AFO gave shigaraki decay, so for all we know it's simply a mutation that he develops

[@Phanthief95]

Just so you know, none of this would’ve happened if Nana Shimura just let All Might & Gran Torino watch over her son from afar.

[@OlPalJoe]

its hard to blame her, how could anyone possibly see this coming?

[@nstorm2415]

Not really. The point of leaving her son was making sure he didnt get targeted by all for one. His quirk (decay) was a mutation that no one knew it would happen. The normal quirk in his bloodline would have been float.

[@ebrimajallow3165]

"from afar" lol. AFO would've discovered them much, much sooner probably when Kotaro was even young and probably murdered him in front of All Might or have All Might give up to him or some sort of manipulation like that. Putting his son up for adoption was one of the better choices she had. It could've totally ended out perfectly. More often that not, it would've but Kotaro just couldn't get past feeling abandoned. Blaming Nana is quite absurd. Not everyone has the luxury of hindsight. The story could have easily gone the way of her telling a young All Might then which eventually leads to AFO still finding about the Kotaro.

[@BeyondInfinity_XD]

The Anger, Hatred, and Resentment he felt exploded out of him through his quirk. Like he said himself, deep down that was what he wanted… the eradication of his “uncaring” family…

[@slaya070492]

Chris had that Eren Yeager response.

[@TwilightNecromancer]

XDDDD “Whaaaaaaaat?!” ‘Ya’ll we knew this for a while.’

[@KW-px1fj]

This whole incident as already been mentioned earlier in the season. They say that the villains attacked and the average citizens fought them off, we’re just seeing what actually happened

[@Geznoo]

The grandparents probably didn't step in because they were scared of being kicked out.

[@no-one2u113]

WTF? IT'S BEEN 3 WEEKS I'M WATCHING NORMIES, AND I JUST SUBBED 🤣🤣🤣

[@Fatalbeast22]

So yeah, fun fact. In the manga they don't turn to dust, they turn to blood and gore, in this scene in the manga, the dog cracked apart and blood started spraying out as it fell apart, the anime censors it by having them turn to dust, then be bloody after in some scene

[@claudegrenier3180]

OMG I dunno why but I just cant stop laughing seeing how traumatized they are right when the end credit starts 🤣 I kinda knew they were gonna get it hard but wow lol funny AF

[@MH3Raiser]

Shigaraki's story is a tragedy, but is also a lesson to anyone who takes advantages of others because they can't resist them, who ignores the suffering of others because it doesn't affect them. Not villains, but simply individuals who take from those around them because they can and watch it happen without remorse. This is what can happen when you ignore the pain you cause and sweep it under the rug; Tenko suffered for his ENTIRE LIFE at the hands of his father's violence and his family's indifference. It built up slowly over time until that suffering overflowed and destroyed his family and his future. Tenko became a monster, Tomura, but his father was a monster from the start. And I feel no sympathy for him, not much more for his family aside from his sister. Tenko was a beaten child, the adults were cowards. And they deserved everything they got.

[@jonathanherrera-checa2947]

The bad man she was referring to was All for one. She sent sent her son away before her final battle with him (where she died) because she knew All for One would come after her son if possible.

[@joanaverquinones]

I don't think I have ever seen any of the Normies speechless, at least not all at once. This episode and the next got me fucked up. His backstory is so sad, and even thought he is a villain you kind of root for him on his fight with Re-Destro and this whole arc. I've never read the manga, but apparently this scenes where he disintegrates his whole family are way more gruesome and the arc itself is longer.

[@reylicalderon87]

One of the best backstories ever for a villian, the blood is canon and is because he doesn’t knew what was happening, he thought it was a villian. He could controll his quirck, that’s why he didn’t turn the dog into dust completely.

[@purpleirken1529]

I love how horrified they all are XD Chris was so shocked he laughed as response- I'm so sorry.

[@cjjackson2423]

Damn the dog was all he had 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@lotemylife3006]

Always that sad moment when your favourite of the Normies isn't there for such a crazy episode 😅

[@EnoYaka]

even if it is a censor the correct head-canon is that his power was weaker at the time and didn't disintegrate deep enough to destroy all the blood and guts, allowing it to show in that flashback.

[@Ramos--re1pp]

Ooo, when they starting talking about there having to be plenty of devastating accidents happening due to kids that manifest strong quirks at such young ages, I thought back to season four when backugo and company had the Hero licensing training and had to handle unruly children with powerful quirks. Then thought back to when the Quirk Singularity issue was first mentioned.

[@samquinn5545]

Y’all forgot Nana Shimura was Shigaraki’s grandma!? I know it was a minor detail but they mentioned it when AllMight fought AFO! ahhhh

[@Thetom5000]

In the manga they crumble into bloody chunks but the anime censored it with the initial decay

[@AshSmashReacts]

In Kotaro's mind, heroes are people who prioritize strangers over their own families. Nana probably wasn't there for him all that much, and that made him grow to hate heroes. I think he wanted to hate her mother but couldn't do that because his mother loved him. I think he preferred it if his mother didn't love him because that way, he could hate her without feeling bad about it. It's much easier to hate someone who doesn't care about you than of someone who does. He then took out his hatred on his son Tenko, who didn't deserve it one bit. If Kotaro had realized his mistake sooner, and apologized to his son, maybe things could have been different.

[@Ro321chile]

Obligatory joke of "The manga was better", the manga was a lot bloodlier

[@livingphantom]

Everyone's so proud of their fun censoring fact, "Ouu look at me look at me, I read the Manga and you're wrong and you don't know things ouuweee". The MHA community gets more toxic by the second. 60 other people have already commented it, you're not original, or quirky or funny. Please stop.

[@livingphantom]

@@ghostlee6434 Nice attempt at a shot at me, you've horribly failed as you've just added to my point. Can't even take facts lol ONE simple statement pointing out something stupid you people do and you can't even self reflect.

[@NeoZhinzo]

@@livingphantom My man, there's a difference between spitting facts and being an asshole about it. You can be right and toxic at the same time, you know.

[@livingphantom]

@@NeoZhinzo It’s just sad man, no one got my quirk pun either. Everyone just wants to be special and unique without realizing that it’s not possible.

[@24trn27]

@@livingphantom well for one it wasn’t funny 😂 and two you were tryna be a duck but also condescending it didn’t match lol

[@Poke-ladd]

Such a liberating episode

[@elijahbaker781]

Get ready to be liberated in the next season of mha

[@Catdogomeow]

👌

[@slurpingmario8006]

Btw for anime onlys, half of shigaraki’s hand is gone (his first two fingers) also the worst thing about this is that I truly believe the dad was going to change before ya know….this happened

[@tommygallegos706]

I’ve been waiting for you guys to see this backstory

[@YoungLiam74]

Remember Eri erased her father from existence, so yeah these things happen.

[@eddieguererro46]

13:33 Nope, its the reverse actually. The crumbling to dust effect is an anime censorship. Shigaraki's quirk is decay (not calcify), meaning he rots people he touches them. In the manga, when a person decays to his quirk, their body literally breaks apart and falls into chunks. The cracks that form on their bodies is their bodies rapidly rotting on the outside before the inside, and due to that, blood spurts out from the openings formed until its completely falls apart into a puddle of gore. 14:47 Mickeys got it.

[@kameken111]

No. His QUIRK is not decay. His QUIRK is collapse. This is the official setting. As a child, he doesn't know how to use his powers, so he unconsciously suppresses them. His family's body fell apart (and later the delinquents) as he broke down halfway through.

[@maduaksteven]

just realized how he got his scars, the one on his top and bottom lip was from his father hitting him with the pole and the one above his eye he caused himself after he accidentally killed his sister

[@lophuoc9071]

when we were young we admire hero but when we get older we understand villain

[@jaychalanttv6519]

Normies: “this is not a market substitute” Me: “it is for me 🙄”😂

[@bullboy558]

*Dog turns into dog puddle* *Chris* "😂😂😂!!"

[@thecouncilofnine4692]

Mon was a good boy. He knew Tenko wasn't hurting him on purpose, knew Tenko was in pain and stood by his side as he crumbled. That dog was more loyal and caring to that poor kid than his whole family. This is so messed up and sad. Not that his mother was bad, but still, she should have stopped the dad before things got out of control.

[@manicbomba2106]

Also this episode censored Shigaraki getting 3 of his fingers getting crushed into paste

[@settsu7836]

Oh yea Mickey! The crumbling in the manga was super gory! they toned it way down in the anime!!

[@jren3246]

The dog scene was more gruesome in the manga, with the dog's blood spewing out of the cracks and more.

[@anime-kun9231]

Chris is secretly sadistic 😂😂

[@landonrose4156]

I so wish the my villain arc got more time and budget it deserved

[@InugamiTheHound]

RIP doggo, that cute dog did nothing wrong and it died such horrible death. Of all deaths caused by Shigaraki that might be the worst one because dogs are so kind and precious and they never do anything wrong(unless trained by their masters to be evil)

[@BlackStar-gv1wl]

Wait did everyone on this couch forget the dialogue between all might and all for one during s3 😭😭

[@MorrisWilsonFvcks]

Idk if they'll ever read this but basically the gray statue look on the crumbling characters is just a way to sensor most of the gore. They didn't really turned like ash, it was the anime censoring.