The Secret Untold History of Pakistan - Aamir Mughal - Former Intelligence Officer -

[@breakthechin]

tried to compile most of recommendations by aamir sahab,must have missed some and there surely are some mistakes with the names of exact books but here they are 8:20 -maulana maudadi ke saath mere rafaqat ke sarguzisht by maulana mohammed manzoor nomani 9:56 -munir report 1953 11:14 -Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History by ishtiaq ahmed 12:45 -the pakistan project :a feminist prespective on nation and identity by rubina saigol 12:56- jinnah :speeches and statements 1947-1948 by samuel martin burke 14:21 -musalman aur maujooda siyasi kashmakash by sayyed abu aala maudoodi books on maudaudi 15:40- refutation of abu al maududi by sanaullah amritsari book by manazir ahsan gilani book by shayk muhammad sarwar book by abdul majid dariyabadi book by hussain ahmad madni book by ashraf ali thanvi book by yusuf banori book by yusuf ludhianvi book by abu al kalam azad book by zakariya kandhalwi 17:36 column by brig ar siddiqui dawn 20:30 murder of history by k.k aziz 21:05 smug and bigoted by babar sattar in dawn 21:30 muslims against the muslim league by ali usman qasmi 25:30 from jinnah to zia by justice munir 25:30 of all those years MAK chaudry 25:30 witness to carnage by karrar ali agha 26:20 shahabnama by qudrat ullah shahab 27:45 special report parliment in chaos 1951-1958 by dawn and celebrating independence the dawn way by dawn 39:10- tafsir al tabari -al bidaya wal nihaya -work of ibn khaliqan -work of ibn khaldun 39:52 sheikh muhammad salih al munajjid on writ of state 40:46 saleh al fawzan on terrorism and related issues - the legislated jihaad & the deviation of the extremists by saleh al fawzan 43:20 kitab ul kharaj by imam abu yusuf 43:55 an affair to remember by anjum niaz -charlie wilson’s war 44:15 who killed zia by edward jay epstein in vanity fair 47:40 east pakistan: the endgame :an onlooker’s journal 1969-1971 by a.r. siddiqi 47:40-the separation of east pakistan:the rise and realization of bengali muslim nationalism by hasan zaheer 51:50 whodunnit by anjum niaz in dawn sunday 52:10 new twist to miss jinnah controversy (news from dawn july 2003 ) 53:10 pakistan ke siyasi tareek (12 volumes) by zahid chaudhry almiya tareekh by dr mubarak ali murder of history by k k aziz 56:30 a .r .siddiqi articles on pakistan america ties in daily times 57:20 ishtiaq hussain qureshi ,ahsan ikram and syed moin ul haq books on nationalist history of pakistan starting from ibn qasim 58:35 language and politics in pakistan and from hindi to urdu: a social and political history by tariq rahman 59:15 nawal kishore press books in urdu a history of urdu literature by ram babu saksena 1:00:47 kiranchi wala by akhtar hussain baloch 1:01:00 gazette of pakistan and karachi 1:02:24 karachi:megacity of our times by hamida khuhro vintage cowasjee:a selection of writing from dawn 1984-2011 by ardeshir cowasjee 1:18:10 foreign policy dynamics between 1999 and 2001 at institute of international affair 1:21:43 books of abul kalam azad -abul kalam azad interview given to agha shorish kashmiri in 1946 for chattan magazine 1:22:10 abul kalam azad by agha shorish kashmiri 1:22:53 dolalr aid cartoon in the pakistan times on 14th december 1950 1:24:15 united nation commision report on benazir bhutto assasination 1:24:22 advice to watch jfk film to understand benazir assasination 1:51:40 empire strikes back in herald magazine 1990 by abbas nasir 1:52:18 apna gireban program by matiullah jan on dawn news 2011-2012 2:00:00 malik riaz and the art of the deal by naziha syed ali in dawn 2:09:20 tehzeebi nargasiyat by mubarak shah 2:10:24 masood sharif khattak with iftikhar ahmad in jawab deyh (12 october 2008 ) 2:12:20 umar bin al-khattab: his life and times by ali al-sallabi 2:14:40 read all the historians ,do your research and make your own conclusion,on Jinnah read ishtiaq ahmad biography on jinnah ,also read jinnah: a life by yasser latif hamdani on pakistan k k aziz,dr mubarak ali,zahid chahudary,hasan jafar zaidi 2:16:35 defence journal for military knowledge and prespective ,read hamid hussain,a .r siddiqui and tafazul hussain siddiqui articles on that

[@IITTPPEEDD]

Awesome man!

[@nivmhn]

Thank you good sir.

[@ehtisham515]

Great Effort❤

[@asimsiddique4242]

WOW great job, I just want to write about it. Thanks for the effort

[@laicist]

Truly an Intelligence officer; didn't reveal much, just gave dots to find our way....

[@kamranwadood1219]

Born in 67 started reading Np in 71 when in class 2... so in 4 years age was in class 2. Genius.

[@induchopra3014]

He exaggerated . Who reads papers in 2nd standard? He read what? Pictures? Sports? Cartoons? Horoscopes? He read ABCD in papers

[@yasir8852]

I have came across many history scholars in life and listened hundreds virtually . But have not seen a scholar with such a pompous memory hats off to Mr Amir Mughal. Again thanks to Mr. Shehzad Ghiyas for bringing this living legend on his podcast.

[@himmsingz]

Pompous?

[@Jake-cu1rt]

Aamir sahib is giving out more homework than all my school teachers ever did!

[@faizan_ukk]

HAHAH and that's why we love him. Self study pe zorr dete hein

[@hisamgilani9406]

True. Using google after every 5 mins and reading different articles :))

[@KanishQQuotes]

Unfortunately getting a pakistani to read is the biggest challenge

[@ahmadfaisal8046]

Bro can u give me Aamir sahib's Twitter link

[@Hiplsbeasub]

​@@faizan_ukka* *

[@Halz0holic]

Exam Question: Please define Newton's second law of motion. Amir Mughal's Answer: Isaac Newton has written it. Go read it.

[@farzansohail7005]

🤣🤣🤣

[@owaisahmed5549]

I have to read more than 200 books after watching this podcast. In fact he is a very learned scholar

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Same

[@MTK90]

​@@ThePakistanExperienceplease do recommend a few books

[@abdulhaseeb4222]

Kindly recommend any books

[@majidmalikmalik81]

Salam and respect for everyone... I am really surprised after listening Amir Mughal.. He is absolutely a person to be listen and acknowledge... I felt very sad that why I couldn't listen him before... I really appreciate him and now a big fan of him....👍👍👍

[@AliMunirFarooqui]

Shehzad i would request you to put the book references in description so that we can wish list them , you are doing an amazing job of reigniting a long lost passion (atleast mine) reading.

[@balagopalb7148]

Hi Shehzad, your Channel has grown so big. Please add subtitles to improve the experience even further. I am a regular viewer of your Channel. Wishes from India

[@ghalibhassan7047]

The channel is my source of enlightenment for last 2 years. The difference between you and Syed Muzzamil: he is slighly a better orator, but you outsmart him when it comes to the understanding of Pakistan and its history.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@TariqKhan-rs4mx]

Where have Aamir Sahab uploaded the books that he talked about? Can we get a link and also link of other books that he talked about?

[@ykhan9929]

So refreshing to see a host who is actually intelligent and knows alot about what hes asking his host about. Well done sir

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@sudhirmodak2277]

This Person born in 1967 and at the age of 4 was in 2 nd standard and was reading news papers - Only one liner for this interview " This can only happen in Pakistan" I don't think that this is worth watching. However I watched it. I have released this comment after seeing this video.

[@h.m.zaheerasghar1067]

Idhr sub esy hi atay hain pakistan kay sitaray

[@KhushalKhan-tc9cv]

Please mention all books in your description with their names.

[@farhananwar6430]

I am so thankful to you. Please bring him often. Please it's a request. Sir amir is priceless. Please bring him often.

[@hinaiqbal1370]

History is HIS STORY , so whoever & whenever got to change it,did it for their own benefit.

[@AzharShahid14]

Great work please make sure he's available for the next podcast.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@adityaadi4435]

Each minute of this podcast was interesting and educational. Thank you for always bringing quality content.

[@mahmoodhussain1332]

Bss bejèrt ho chey

[@sonalishende6260]

Congratulations for having the most sensible insight on Pakistan. Thank you from India

[@omanalinasir5955]

Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers. Also, thank you for uploading my favourite podcast so far.

[@krishantewari2376]

Path to accomplishment is the truth you speak. This man has impressed me a lot.❤

[@shikharpandey8311]

Thank you for asking my question.... He seems to be no BS, straight on point man... As always loved the conversation. And shehzad bhai (that obese cousin) we love you ❤

[@uzmasaqib8075]

Excellent work, please have some more programs with him.💐

[@affaqbari2600]

This man is the epicentre of wisdom and accurate knowledge in this world of misinformation....Great work shehzad bhai plz keep it up 👏👏👏

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@samibabar9543]

Bhai 3 baar sun chuka hoon! Kudos to TPE❤️

[@ThePakistanExperience]

❤ 4th time sunayn toh books jo mention hueen hain list kar ke comment kardijiye ga I'll pin the comment

[@adeelansari]

Firstly, Shezad and team, congratulations on reaching 100K. With this milestone, there is definitely a lot to celebrate and you should definitely do so - but at the same time, you should also reflect on how important your narrative of Pakistan is now becoming. As the great Stan Lee wrote in Spiderman - "With great power comes great responsibility" I am completely at peace to know that you, Shehzad have a strong moral compass and will continue to provide a view on our political, cultural and geographic landscape that is not only backed by sound logic but also strong evidence (as you have continued to do thus far). Also, please continue to hold your guests to a higher level of authentic statements that can be verified and don't let erroneous messages and arguments fall through the cracks.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@trilokyamohanchakra6351]

​@@taribkhan5468ofc not he's a muslim

[@akhtarkh]

Google nor ChatGPT is of any help in locating the article 44:28 "Who killed Zia" by Edward, referenced by Mr. Amir. Can someone post a link here? The plane exploded and broke apart before hitting the ground. Why would someone use some kind of gas and explosive when explosive alone can do the job as witnessed?

[@billumand]

Besides its far more difficult to hide US involvement, especially if US citizens were killed. The esquire magazine article is just to raise a scandal.

[@SkepticalCPA]

Please do a series of podcasts covering detailed history of Pakistan and how it shaped us a nation. It would be a valuable video archive for generations to have a view of real history with the shade of both sides bias.

[@Kenkalsi]

Look how Gracefully BJPscknowledged defeat after KARNATAK defeat. Even a strong leader like Modi Ji will be Congratulating CONGRESS on their win. Thats power of Democracy.

[@muhammadumerfarooq8477]

I was rating hussain haqqani & atif mian's podcosts at the top of the list (since I had been listening to syed muzamil, hoodbhoy and dr. Ishtiaq). But this man is just 🔥... Bhai yeh banda apni archive are historical references sy bethy bethy baroo baroo ko jalaa k bhasam kar sakta hai...

[@RazaNaqvi51214]

Awesome , Love it. Lots of references. 2024 ma kab aa raha han Sir ? ❤

[@rudegangster786]

Full and frank, brilliant to know such beautiful content is being compiled and shared. We truly need to learn from our mistakes. I'd love to see a video on how we can come together as nation and not only take care of ourselves, but be a significant contributor to the world around us.

[@sukhpindersangha4254]

Tell me one Muslims country that lives as a nation they all following your Quran it's bassed on tribes where Islam comes no humanity or nation

[@ariebazhar7948]

Great podcast, Aamir bhai is a repository of knowledge!

[@thedarkone6706]

Whoa!! This is just too much knowledge to take in with just 1 time. Have to watch this video at least 3 times. Aamir Mughal Sir you're my teacher from now on.

[@aamzaa1]

An independent opinion person.I learn a lot from this podcast

[@ayusraksa5749]

A very rare find who talks sense...

[@techgeektw]

Can you please start sharing links of articles, books etc that the guest shares. WOuld be appreciated.

[@sultanmehmood9380]

I am 69 years old. My thoughts are same as Aamir sahib. I have read all books, referred by Aamir sahib. Dr. Mubarik Ali is my favorite. I was in Port Qasim when Cawasji was appointed as Chairman, PQA. I know him, he was a different man and use to call sr. officers "Aah Saala". I have all 12 vols. Of Zahid Chaudhry. Book " Shadow of Great Game " By Narindra Sing Sarela is a very important.

[@nivmhn]

Thank you for recommending Narendra Singh Sarila's book.

[@asimsiddique4242]

Regarding NS Sarela, last pages are sufficient to understand his whole theory mention in book, BTW what is Book name of Zahid Ch,

[@bukharijawad1948]

Amir Muğal sb ,a man of great intellectual sagacity and an ambassador of great repute , a knowledgeable man. There are still some greater heights of success ahead sir . Wish you more grace.

[@ameetdatta2281]

Super impressed Shehzad. I am hooked on your TPE episodes. So much to learn about Pakistan, its politics, and history and hope that things get better for us all! all the best.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@usama.nasar18]

Most interesting podcast so far. Keep doing good work.

[@RajaGidhh]

Congrats for reaching 100k. Two hours of pure knowledge.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

[@danialqayam]

wow! What an amazing garden of knowledge this guy is. Amazing Amazing Podcast Shehzad. Such a breath of fresh air, some intellectual other than politicised people.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@naheedkhattak4305]

I wish I had a friend like him❤ I would have read a lot of books❤

[@elgonm289]

Well you could read books now brother

[@usamaaltaf8976]

Extra-ordinary podcast.... I would highly request you to do more podcasts with Aamir Mughal sir (Loved this one Shehzad bhai)

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@sydzainraza]

I used to be one of those people too who thought he wasn't one person but multiple people operating a Twitter account. Couldn't get how one person always had so much research and clips available 😄 really liked the episode apart from all the homework projects that were given. I do agree that we should be reading more to understand things better. It is always good to listen to people who are well read and know what's going on based on what happened in the past. Loved the podcast!! Also, good on you Shehzad for calling him out whenever religion seemed to be used in an argument against someone. But I get where he was coming from. He was giving an example of what people can say because of how sensitive it is to use religion in politics. Nonetheless loved the discussion!! Listened to it over two days while driving.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@indian6160]

As an Indian, I would like to say that, India tried to be secular for the past 100 years… but what did we achieved ?? Nothing… we lost our land to Pakistan and Bangladesh… trust me … the more sanatani India will become … the more powerful India will be don’t compare India’s present with what Pakistan was in the Past 🙏🙏

[@shyamparsad-ug7vh]

L0rey ki puja kr Jake gandubakht 😂😂

[@berzerius]

That's precisely the wrong lesson to learn. We might have lost the land to the ones with hatred as agenda, but they are self destructing. We don't have to make a state religion. We only have to implement true secularism or true equality of religions. We should also declare that country comes before religion and all extremists who put religion over humanity and nation is our enemy. We should not have issues with liberal minorities who don't follow their scriptures strictly.

[@cupidpuneet]

what a name amir mughal & what a thoughtful man, wonder in pakstan, very nice & very clarity driven show, 👌🏿👏🏿👏🏿💷💶💴💵

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@sudhanshuthakore7190]

Heard a famous name "Gaffar Khan frontier Gandhi" for probably the first time while following Pakistan for a long time. We learned about him in India in our textbooks growing up. I doubt Pakistanis know thier history as much as we do.

[@sajidahussain108]

Well to be honest Pakistanis are more well versed in this than you guys. Ghaffar Khans family created ANP. Which was ousted by PTI and has never recovered since.

[@alyaaziz1949]

@@sajidahussain108 😂😂

[@irfan1195]

@@sajidahussain108 it was ousted by the Taliban. ANP was explicitly targeted by TTP where they killed more than 1400 leaders and workers of ANP in a span of less than 4 years. Taliban used to issue warnings where they were explicitly warned them to not organize and attend political gatherings during election campaign. That reaulted in a vacuum which was then filled by PTI, which means PTI was the result of sheer violence against ANP and PPP during 2014 elections. There is a reason PTI is called TTPTI as well.

[@madmax-bu6wh]

So true.ANP was being targeted and IK, so called champion of democracy, never once condemned them. No wonde he is called Taliban khan.

[@sudhanshuthakore7190]

Good to know guys👍. Btw, we also know a bit because he was the first non Indian to receive the Bharat Ratna.

[@goranjitdeol]

Bro very intellectual and truthful I think if half of Pakistanis thinking like him it’s the only way forward

[@muhammadminhas9766]

Very informative and eye opener. Would like to have his more talk

[@zeeshman42]

Please invite Aamir bhai again to talk about the Delhi Sultanate and later Mughal era, particularly Aurangzeb's rule.

[@FayyazAhmed]

Correction: Fazal ul Huq only presented the Pakistan resolution, its author was Sir Zafarullah Khan, an Ahmadi.

[@Sprots-Hub]

Inho nay imran khan kai baray mai bhi ghalat batain ki hain and judgemental .Mater koi nhi hota

[@beeloobhai9200]

Love it man. At 20:00 mark he solved all the basic issues of govt

[@sunflower112]

Can we get a list of all the reading materials mentioned in this video?

[@ShubhamYadav-ru8wn]

People are commenting here just within 3-4 minutes even before watching 2 hrs 20 minutes long video😅

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Pyaar hay ye sab ka

[@ShubhamYadav-ru8wn]

@@ThePakistanExperience I have also seen many of your videos. Toh pyaar hamara bhi hai😅😊

[@ronsu4765]

Mujhay do dinn ho gaye video khatam nahi hui

[@PS5PlayGuru]

Intelligent people gives u much knowledge and History is really compulsory to be remembered...

[@abhinavchokhavatia716]

Man, this guy is good. I am from India and am just into the first 10 minutes, and am impressed by this person. Why don't such people who are so learned go into politics?

[@asad-kc8zf]

As you said it…. He is smart that’s why he didn’t go in to politics.

[@SATWIKRAJ-x3b]

​@@asad-kc8zfhe lacks calibre

[@kanizkhan2763]

Well pleased that you have reached hundredths thousands subscribers. May it go to millions. I have done my part sharing and encouraging like minded friends to join to make a force to change desperately required to bring stability it cries for. The ordinary people are suffering decision taken by elites...

[@agnosticatheist4093]

44:15 Yes, Epstein names several individuals who he believes may have been involved in the assassination of Zia-ul-Haq. These include: General Akhtar Abdur Rahman, the head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) at the time of the crash. Rahman was a close ally of Zia and was known to be opposed to his policies. General Mirza Aslam Beg, the chief of army staff at the time of the crash. Beg was also a close ally of Zia and was known to be ambitious. Air Marshal Asghar Khan, the former chief of air staff. Khan was a critic of Zia and had been outspoken about his opposition to the military's involvement in politics. Lieutenant-General Hamid Gul, the former director-general of the ISI. Gul was a close ally of Rahman and was known to be a hardliner. Epstein also names several individuals who he believes may have had motive to kill Zia. These include: The Soviet Union, which was opposed to Zia's support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. The United States, which was concerned about Zia's nuclear weapons program. A faction within Pakistan's military or intelligence community that was opposed to Zia's policies. It is important to note that Epstein's book is based on circumstantial evidence and that he does not provide any definitive proof of who was involved in the assassination of Zia-ul-Haq. However, his book has raised important questions about the cause of the crash and the possibility that it was a deliberate assassination. These questions remain unanswered, and it is likely that the debate over the crash will continue for many years to come. 😊

[@muhammadali7028]

Tysm pretty much summed up

[@mussabsmart2]

Very informative and helpful

[@asherdaud468]

This guy is the brand ambassador of "goalpost shifting".

[@baybars3138]

LOL

[@sz6557]

Hey Shahzad can you add a reading list he suggested in the description box?

[@ahmadsaeed1713]

He is extremely knowledgeable and a very learned person. Shahzad, please do have a few more podcasts with him in future.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@mahmadhabib2153]

Secondly please suggest or write the names of the books which he suggested.

[@indrajitgupta3280]

Brilliant presentation by Aamir Mughal. It was painful to hear the constant deprecatory references to 1971, and to the Bengalis, and the attempts to drag them into the fault zone, but that is, possibly, the contemporary justification for what happened, and what was done. Just a small doubt - in March 1971, was it not Taslimuddin Ahmed who was IG East Pakistan? Aamir Mughal mentioned some other name; perhaps that other person was IG earlier? As for being genuinely Bengali, it is quite true that Fazlul Huq, a native of Barisal, was a born and bred Bengali, but it is puzzling how Khwaja Nazimuddin, Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Mohammed Ali Bogra are all summarily dismissed from being 'genuinely Bengali'. Khwaja Nazimuddin was a member of the Dhaka Nawabi family, and his elder, Salimullah, was a founder of the Muslim League in 1906. The last member of that family to be known to the public was Runa Laila's first husband, the elder son of the well-known Khwaja Mohammed Kaisar, former Ambassador to China, who organised Kissinger's visit to China. Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy was from a prominent Bengali family; his father was a High Court judge in Calcutta. He nearly managed to bring an undivided Bengal into the status of a third Dominion, parallel to Pakistan and to India. Mohammed Ali Bogra was born in Barisal, but belonged to the Nawabi family of Bogra (the two are widely separated; I have a grandparent from each). He was schooled in Bengal, studied at Presidency, and served in the foreign service. Why was he not a 'genuine Bengali'? Puzzling. The anchor clearly knew nothing about Bengal, and clearly couldn't care less, so it is not his fault, but Aamir Mughal Sahib should have known better.

[@rogermilla2358]

Very informative, but died laughing at 1:01:45 - the guy goes from acting super duper disciplined and proper to saying THAT 😂😂😂

[@kainatshoukatkainatshoukat1516]

You both have some different opinions on some issues but the way you guys are delivering is learnable and thinkable for us thanks for sharing your thoughts ❤

[@muslim9061]

Feeling so lucky to listen to an original person , as far as i felt❤

[@AhSaNL11]

Congrats on 100k Shezhad! This podcast has been one of the best discoveries I've come across. Been watching for 3 years. I remember when eps had Ike 5 or 6 comments and just a few likes, but the conversions were always so raw and honest, and I knew with time it would become big. Hope you always continue to keep it real and 500k will soon be on the horizon.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@ThePakistanExperience]

OG!

[@Bharat_Shukla]

I just had coffin dance movement in my mind when you were about to mention ISI directly instead of intelligence agencies.

[@malikmoin7637]

Aamir Mughal is my spirit animal. Stating dates left and right. Just loving his energy ! 😂

[@baybars3138]

just like Zakir Naik -- lack of depth

[@ArsalanMazhar-eb5lw]

@@baybars3138 Exactly! Though he is very knowledge, but I felt that he lacked analytical depth.

[@baybars3138]

@@ArsalanMazhar-eb5lw yes he is so superficial

[@a145m20]

@@baybars3138 for every question he says {reference} parhlein ja ker :D

[@baybars3138]

@@a145m20 he knows nobody will go read anything. So it's a way of hiding his thing

[@Harry19950]

Who was the author of the article "Who killed Zia" Can't find it 🙄🙄

[@tayyabahabib7453]

Ohhhh God very informative podcast, mujhy LG rha hai k may Pakistani hi NAHI hon 😂 I mean really don't know about these all, Thanks bro

[@tahirsajjad4323]

I don't know what I love more, your 69 jokes or the fact that none of your guest actually get these jokes

[@ThePakistanExperience]

😅

[@ThePakistanExperience]

I am still committed to the bit

[@ameya7723]

@@ThePakistanExperience Kisi Mughal ka naam ya Surname Mughal nahi tha. Ye kaha ka nakli Mughal hai

[@shahabulhaq9348]

​@@ameya7723 dude

[@ameya7723]

@@urrasscal8380 😁🤣

[@NasirAli-cb2rd]

This guest is knowledgeable. Here I saw criticism on Hamed Gul and other generals, and on the same time admiring AR SIDDIQI, And even then many young people want to join arm forces.

[@basitawan5959]

Ethnic Background of Generals in 1971 Indo-Pakistani War. During the 1971 Indo-Pakistani War, the number of Generals in Pakistan Army was 14. One was Commander-in-Chief of Pakistan Army and 13 were Lt Generals. Four were posted at the GHQ/CMLA HQ, Four were corps commanders. Four were governors under the martial law. One at the CENTO HQ in Ankara, Turkey. Out of 14 Pakistan Army Generals in 1971 Indo-Pakistani War; 1. General Yahya Khan (Pathan) was the Commander-in-Chief, 2. Lt General Abdul Hamid Khan (Punjabi) was the deputy C-in-C, 3. Lt Gen S.G.M.M. Peerzada (Muhajir) was the PSO CMLA HQ in Rawalpindi, 4. Lt Gen Gul Hassan Khan (Pathan) was the Chief of General Staff (CGS), 5. Lt Gen Khawaja Wasiuddin (Muhajir) was the Master-General of Ordnance (MGO). 6. Army's Eastern Command was under Lt Gen A.A.K. Niazi (Pathan). 7. 1 Corps was under Lt Gen Irshad Ahmad Khan (Punjabi). 8. II Corps was under Lt Gen Tikka Khan (Punjabi). 9. IV Corps was under Lt Gen Bahadur Sher (Pathan). 10. Governor Punjab was Lt Gen Attiqur Rahman (Punjabi). 11 Governor Sindh was Lt Gen Rakhman Gul (Pathan). 12. Governor NWFP was Lt Gen K.M. Azhar (Muhajir). 13. Governor Balochistan was Lt Gen Riaz Hussain (Muhajir). 14. Lt Gen Muhammad Shariff (Punjabi was sent as Permanent Representative to the CENTO HQ in Turkey. The GHQ posts of QMG and AG was under the rank of Major-Generals. Hamood-ur-Rehaman Commission recommended Public Trial of the following Officers: (1) General Yahya Khan (Pathan), Former Commander-in-chief. (2) General Abdul Hamid Khan (Punjabi) ex Chief of Staff to the President. (3) Lt. Gen. S.G.M.M. Pirzada (Muhajir), ex PSO to the President. (4) Lt. Gen. Gul Hasan (Pathan) ex Chief of General Staff. (5) Maj. Gen. Ghulam Umar (Muhajir), ex Second-in -Command of NSC. (6) Maj Gen A O Mitha (Muhajir), ex Deputy Corps Commander. (7) Lt. Gen. Irshad Ahmad Khan (Punjabi), ex Commander 1 Corps. (8) Maj Gen Abid Zahid (Muhajir), ex GOC 15 Div. (9) Maj. Gen B.M. Mustafa (Muhajir), ex GOC 18 Div. The Commission recommended Court Martial of the following officers: (1) Lt Gen A.A.K. Niazi (Pathan), ex Commander, Eastern Command. (2) Maj Gen Mohammad Jamshed (Muhajir), ex-GOC 36 (ad hoc) Division. (3) Maj Gen M. Rahim Khan (Pathan), ex-GOC 39 (ad hoc) Division. (4) Brig. G.M. Baqir Siddiqui (Muhajir), ex COS, Eastern Command, Dacca. (5) Brig Mohammad Hayat (Punjabi), ex Comd. 107 bde. (9 Div). (6) Brig. Mohammad Aslam Niazi (Pathan), ex Comd 53 Bde (39 Ad hoc Div). The Commission recommended Departmental Action against the following officers: (1) Brig. S.A. Ansari (Muhajir), ex-Comd, 23 Bde. (2) Brig. Manzoor Ahmad (Punjabi), ex-Comd 57 Bde 9 Div. (3) Brig. Abdul Qadir Khan (Punjabi), ex-Comd, 93 Bde. 36 Div. The Commission observed that the suitability of the following officers for continued retention in military service would not be justified: (1) Maj Gen M.H. Ansari (Muhajir), GOC 9 Div. (2) Maj Gen Qazi Abdul Majid (Muhajir), GOC 14 Div. (3) Maj Gen Nazar Hussain Shah (Punjabi), GOC 16 Div. (4) Maj Gen Rao Farman Ali (Muhajir), ex Adviser to the Governor of East Pakistan. (5) Plus 19 brigadiers.

[@prateeksharma2196]

Great detailed information 👍👍

[@KaliYugaSurfer_]

Niazi are just Pathan in name now After all they are from mianwali which is in Punjab

[@chandankumargantayat8926]

Niazi was pakka punjabi....rao farman ali was ranghar ( haryana rajput ) haryana was part of punjab till 66....hence haryanvi muslims mostly tyagis and rajputs,integrated easily along with other east punjab refugees in west punjab

[@KaliYugaSurfer_]

@@chandankumargantayat8926 yup

[@nitishsaxena1372]

​@@VedJoshi.. not exactly. Muhajir means immigrant and in this context, this term is used for all those people who migrated to Pak from India during partition, minus Punjab because they only moved from one part of Punjab to the other. Thus, muhajirs do include North India but there have been South Indian migrants too. Hyderabad is obvious but also from Mumbai, Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

[@balakrishnaganapathy7823]

One of the better personality you have interviewed. Talks sense and in a way that is easily understood. Get more of such guys. I must admit I skip a lot of guys who are at sea with what they think and speak and who are otherwise termed as pseudo intellectuals. Good luck.

[@aimenjafri8341]

Aamir mughal uncle folding his hands the whole time. Explains his nervousness.

[@ahmedmukhtar6961]

Because he’s bullshitting 😂 he sounds like an establishment apologist

[@baybars3138]

He seems big talk only

[@billumand]

He is excited

[@baybars3138]

@@billumand about what, he said lots of correct things, but for others he didn't give one reference.

[@ayeshafareedsyed8560]

Bht maze ki podcast thi. Refreshing ❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@AmitSinghrana1008]

In One Simple Word: Outstanding. Huge Round of Applause To Shehzad and Tremendous Respect To Aamir Mughal Saab Lots of Respect and Admiration From India 🇮🇳 To The Pakistan Experience 🇵🇰

[@umayr2935]

1:10:50 "idr Islamabad me ek Syrian restaurant wale sheeshay ka darwaza raat ko lock kr ke chale gae, suba ko toota hua tha, looks like with time they'll understand how things work here, what has this place become"

[@alyaaziz1949]

At first I was angry that why he wasn't giving a definite answer and asking us to read but now I think this is the correct approach because he is asking us to form opinions ourselves and not imposing his opinions on us like Syed Muzammil and some other people do. In the latter approach, people are just kind of brain washed and their opinions are not formed on a solid basis. Ajkal ki generation ko bas har cheez instantly chahye :( Bilkul sahi kaha he k jo hamare dimagh men he wo likhna nahi chahye, bht carefully research kar ke likhna chahye. When we will read ourselves then we can disagree with him too and wouldn't be a blind follower.

[@alyaaziz1949]

@@liliths_ Are you on his payroll? All these experts with cock sure opinions shape the views of the gullible youth not people like me who can see through the fallacy of a lot of their opinions. I am studying in the US and you will teach me what philosophy is? go get a life bro!

[@alyaaziz1949]

@@liliths_ Some of the nonsense he said has been exposed by Dr Taimur. This guest didn't say a word about things he didn't know or wasn't following which is a quality I highly appreciate and not everyone is humble enough to accept their limitations and end up misinforming others.

[@alyaaziz1949]

@@liliths_ And WTF is Diana and Roma? Were you watching these before you achieved your emotional maturity after listening to Syed Muzammil?

[@samibabar9543]

@@alyaaziz1949 lol saying people shouldn't brainwash themselves by listening to opinions, and then quoting Dr Taimoor 🤣 In that logic you're also brainwashed by Dr Taimoor.

[@rohitsuri5982]

Encyclopedia State should take services of both of you When we have such massive talent Mr Muneer !

[@rootjay]

Hope everything gets on track in Pakistan 👍

[@AB-media15]

Han bhai , taki zaldi se kashmir mai phir insurgency shuru ho jaye, border per seize fire cancel ho ke phir firing ho dba ke, madarsas active ho jaye, kasab phir aaye . Zaroor.

[@Aashu299]

Don’t know why some fellow citizens are so dumb.

[@mylord3003]

​@@AB-media15true. Some Indians are showing sympathies to the wrong people

[@nitishsaxena1372]

​@@AB-media15 *jaldi

[@yasirchhipa]

Series of podcast with Aamir bhai??? Yes please

[@syedaraboosabatooltaqvi1471]

A man who is a library Amir mughal. kudos to you too shehzaad for being honest and congratulations on 100k❤

[@drasifalinaseer4476]

Sir what we have to do now at present Solution of the current pumblepoosa

[@dugyan]

Glad somebody has the honesty to point the finger at the person fundamentally responsible for the mess that is Pakistan--Jinnah. It's time people stopped treating him as an infallible deity, especially people like Shehzad who like to style themselves as critical thinkers.

[@mantasha_binte_idrees.20]

Everyone is biased towards one or something. Will you may disagree, we still have some points in support of him if we think something practically.

[@SaltLake180]

Jinnah didn’t create this mess. It’s the establishment and the corrupt politicians who are responsible for derailing Pakistan.

[@madmax-bu6wh]

At least in India there is a critical and threadbare discussion of Gandhi and Nehru.

[@alyaaziz1949]

@mad max it's nothing more than propaganda done by BJP through their whatsapp university IMO. There is nothing critical about it.

[@maryanne327]

A very interesting conversation! I would like to give my two cents, as someone who was brought up by hanafis and now learning the other madhabs as an adult; Hanafi school of thought is the most narrow and least moderate out of all 4 madhabs. 🤷‍♀️

[@cerealkiller5599]

This podcast in a nutshell: Shahzad: How did that happen? Aamir Mughal: Go read the x book Shahzad: Okay, I got it but can you explain a little. Aamir Mughal: Listen here you little shit, read the damn book!

[@taiebxr]

😂😂😂😂

[@rotishotifamilyrestaurant6840]

بہت اچھا ایپیسوڈ ہے اپ اس طرح کے ایپیسوڈز کو بند مت کریے گا اور کسی بھی تنقید کو سنجیدہ نہ لیجئے گا یقین کریے کہ اپ بہت سے لوگوں کی سوچ اور زندگی کو تبدیل کرنے میں مثبت رول ادا کر رہے ہیں شکریہ

[@khanjehangir60]

Amir mughal sahib one of my favourite personality on twitter, it was more fascinating listening & seeing him today❤❤❤❤

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@mikefatah]

Excellent discussion here!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@preetmohantuli1795]

Please bring Amir sir back for more discussions on history of pakistan era wise . He is a straight talker and one of the most well researched folks you have on this program

[@mahmadhabib2153]

Can anyone provide me with his Twitter id? I somehow couldn't find him. It would be great 👍

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Mughalbha

[@RAJESHKUMAR-yl3fz]

.......but the audio of khan Sahab -- fondly called " Khan Sahab Audio wale" are the best !!!!

[@ayeshatoor1223]

It makes me so angry to think all the lies taught me about Pakistan history in school. Loved this episode. Thank you!

[@ThePakistanExperience]

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[@faizs.1541]

GREAT INTERVIEW OF U SIR... BELIVE AND RESPECT IN EVERY WORD OF U AAMIR SB...SOLUTE... HATS OFFF SIR.