VITA MEANS LIFE - GPD Win 4 Review - Optimization Guide / Benchmarks / TDP

[@jar768jake]

I remember watching the The Phawx, back when his channel was all about the GPD Win 1, we've come so far!

[@Prodbytocile]

I was 7 years old wow

[@studioviper3016]

I remember The Phawx from the gp2x days, back in 2005!

[@DrMerlinTHC]

@@studioviper3016 i miss my gp2x, gpd makes me thing about gp lol

[@dannyd4339]

He was always a shill who got paid to promote the gpgarbage and always will be

[@DrMerlinTHC]

@Danny D pressing x for doubt. I have the gpd win 3 and it's been great for me

[@jrcharneycom]

I'm glad you called out how most hand-held computers are native portrait. When I loaded Arch Linix on the GPD mini, the default layout is portrait. Fortunately, you can change it to landscape so things appear right-side-up.

[@emerson-biggons7078]

I never thought I'd see the day of a PSP with equivalent power to a PS4. That blows my mind

[@nuckerball1259]

Probably considerably more power especially in the CPU department

[@Confector69]

Well its actually ps5 not ps4 if you look at the raw computing power.

[@willmartin6198]

Hey bro, I'm here from ETA Prime's channel. Subscribed and liked!

[@SRC267]

Really tempted to grab this

[@Dracossaint]

Wait for next gen. It's going to be a bigger jump

[@SRC267]

@@Dracossaint yea that's what's making me from pulling the trigger

[@anuragthakur5787]

@@Dracossaint The rate at which handhelds are getting good is crazy The next one is definitely going to be insane

[@vergodagoat]

@@Dracossaint there’s always a next one to wait on. when that one comes out people will tell you to wait for the next and so on.

[@gmansas2894]

Sony fans: we want a new Playstation portable console Sony: No GPD: Fine, I'll do it myself

[@JtwasLuck]

Ah yes, the one review I been absolutely looking forward to. The GPD WIN 4 is hands down the smallest 6800U handheld with complete PC Functionality. And it’s by far the best handheld for anyone looking to do any high end portable emulation but find the steam deck to be too big.

[@dannyd4339]

Nah

[@megamanx1291]

@@dannyd4339why?

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@dannyd4339 Clown

[@dannyd4339]

@@ZackSNetwork yes you are

[@dannyd4339]

@@megamanx1291 because it's not?

[@hmr0]

Man, I feel like this handheld is MADE for me. Thank you for the fantastic review Phawx!

[@Chesemiser]

You gonna do a review of it? I watched your older reviews and it would be cool to see your thoughts on it

[@hmr0]

@@Chesemiser I can't afford it sorry.. 😔

[@Chesemiser]

@@hmr0 Don't worry neither can I so I get it so oh well

[@lilalj07]

@@hmr0 you have a great channel by the way. GPD should send you a review unit!

[@umamifan]

@@hmr0 99% of us handheld enjoyers can't afford this either lol. We're all in the same boat

[@Disturbed29]

I would love to see a direct performance comparison to the Win 3, if you could make that happen. Your vids have helped me get the most out of all my Win devices so far, thanks for all your in-depth content Phawx!

[@fttommy]

Just wanted to drop in again and say that your video are always fantastic. Thank you very much for the guide here on using Cyphbat to control the AMD 6800U. I have been using the Win Max 2 for a few months now and was using a different app to control TDP. After setting my Max 2 using your settings specified here, not only have my FPS improved, but I can clearly see the system is using power much more efficiently. Thank you!

[@jonathan__g]

This was a great and thorough preview of the device. I had placed an order through their indigogo campaign and cant wait to get it. I hope in your follow up video you talk about how loud that fan gets in order to manage the heat at those high tdps.

[@1JLegend]

In my opinion of all the 6800u devices the GPD win 4 and ayaneo 2 are by far the best devices. I'd love to see a video comparing the 2 devices.

[@xijinping2538]

win4 should vs Ayaneo slide, not ayaneo 2

[@Zeddy464]

Você acha bom o (aok zoe A1) ?? Qual melhor portátil na sua opinião hoje ??

[@The_Geek_World]

i have 2 6800U aokzoe a1 and gpd win 4 the win 4 is a bit faster will get the 7840U gpd win 4 soon

[@dragonflame9615]

I really love the size form factor of this and the power of his insane of all the 6800u handhelds this is most likely the one that I'm going to buy

[@ricky865]

The prices are really good to especially with the power is packing especially the 16GB/512GB version that is priced affordably at $799 to compete with the Steam Deck but the best part is that all of the prices for the different versions they offered are final price and not special or early bird special prices.

[@willford7717]

It is really irritating navigating the prices for a lot of these handhelds, what with early bird prices being so prevalent. So I agree, it's nice seeing reasonable pricing from the off.

[@ricky865]

@@willford7717 And soon GPD Might not be the only ones selling a devise at a competitive price as in 2023 Ayn will be selling their Loki line of handhelds with their Loki Max selling for $775 and it will be using the same 6800U CPU processor like the GPD Win 4 and all of the other hire price PC handheld that have already come out this year.

[@Clodi95]

how do you know it's the final pricing? on the indiegogo page it explicitly says the 800 USD version is 160 USD cheaper than the retail price. And the more expensive versions are 130 USD cheaper than retail price.

[@ALmaN11223344]

@@ricky865 That's almost "too little too late", the RDNA 3 handhelds will be out this year (2023) and those will clap all existing devices. Just another instance of a marked down piece of old tech to make way for new tech, it would be nice if they undercut the deck instead of just inching towards their top model.

[@brownhippy]

Where can i get it for 799???

[@DarioDAversa]

This is the best review of the GPD WIN 4 by far. You convinced me to grab one... now hopefully I cansel l my Steam Deck at a reasonable price...

[@travers5]

GPD is NOT doing Hall joystick anymore :( 30:42

[@paolofanin]

I had all the GPD WIN devices, from the 1 to the 3 and today I contributed for the 4.. I just love them form factor of these handhelds!

[@wrhader2203]

Serious high praise in that intro! Great review.

[@Slytalion]

I think a direct head to head with the Win 3 would be very interesting to see, any chance you can do that Phawx?

[@Slytalion]

@@iemsforbreakfast the thing is I already have a Win3 and I would like to see a head to head in order to see if it would he worth it to buy the Win4 as well

[@BatoceraNation]

As always, great analysis and review! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@amit_patel654]

That's such a bummer about the joysticks though. I was excited about the Hall effect sticks already being installed. I don't think I would want to open up such an expensive device just to install them myself.

[@yey2wavy999]

If is that what youre afraid of you dont have to. I recently opened my steamdeck and it was no more issue than following a few websites or videos

[@Rashimotosan]

It's super easy

[@RipeStories]

How can this device manage 45w easily but all the other gpd handhelds can‘t (including all the other massive 6800u handhelds on the market)

[@ThePhawx]

It's truly remarkable. It's also insane on total power, it's like 25~ mins of battery life

[@EXDC]

Imagine this with a OLED and hall effect sticks, literal perfection

[@one_step_sideways]

Too expensive

[@TheUltimateHacker007]

5:33

[@rickylascaze4787]

I want one w out the slide up screen/keyboard

[@kensou142]

you really do the best reviews on internet

[@AshenAF92]

This device is amazing, and it's apparently just a prototype judging from the IndieGogo page. I can't wait to see the final product! Very tempting :P

[@dhs889]

Have you seen the Win 3, it looks fantastic! However, it is (still) just a prototype, I'm excited to see their retail version that doesn't require a crowdfunding campaign for a more robust and comprehensive warranty and customer support network. Apparently, the Win 4 isn't that.

[@internetexplorer9492]

This is the final product. They said the same thing with Win 3

[@ETophales]

Great review and the optimisation tips will really come in handy when I get the device. Your videos are always so informative. The moment I saw that design I knew I had to get the Win 4, and I'm glad that the previews for it are good. I'm curious what kind of power and performance use there is after the optimisation. The 15W vs. 25W figures are interesting, but if I play with optimisations, they're not that relevant. In theory it would also have been nice to see intermediate TDPs like 18W, but I figure that again, optimised settings performance is what matters.

[@muskwasis1705]

I really want that optical finger navigation module on a split keyboard

[@Javadamutt]

I have the win 3. I didn’t care about this until I saw some of “minor” improvements….I want one now 😢

[@bennyspieler528]

Which handheld should i choose? Ayaneo 2 or GPD Win 4. Have the Steam Deck but i want to sell it. Mostly the Screen on the Deck makes me wanna change. The touch and the colors are very bad.

[@lilalj07]

You gotta hand it to GPD. They strive for the most compact, apealing, and portable form factor. $800 is definitley reasonable. You have similar laptops with lackluster specs that cost more; not to mention this thing is a very capable gaming machine. The icing on the cake is that while docked, it's a very capable desktop PC.

[@Bidwellz9]

ever owned a gpd device? not built to be used

[@huge_balls]

Do you have a bad experience with your GPD device?

[@lpnp9477]

@Zeus Pantherha Not really. I baby my devices but the Win 2's keyboard failed not even 4 months in and the Win 3 just stopped turning on altogether since I didn't turn it on for four months, how dare I. I'm probably not going to buy another GPD device but it's interesting to see what they come out with.

[@lilalj07]

@@Bidwellz9 I've owned gpd devices, but none have failed on me fortunately

[@lilalj07]

@@huge_balls with the GPD win 2, I was afraid of the hinge cracking

[@elemileTLDR]

There is, of course, a way to get back to Win 2 keyboard quality and beyond: Clamshell design; bring it back, GPD. I still hold Win 2 as my favourite handhel ever.

[@Rashimotosan]

Nope don't want that at all

[@RandomComment-tr5ix]

Can't wait for the win 5 to come out next month and Phawx calling this bad

[@jc74435]

Just came out

[@hoonywise]

Would you be able to make a video on replacing the SSD for GPD Win 4 and installing fresh Windows? Pros and Cons of installing GPD's Windows package with baked in firmware vs fresh Windows plus driver installation? Thank you for the informative videos!

[@tanyahuyton598]

I'd love to know this also

[@tanyahuyton598]

Hi I have done the replacement ssd. It was easy no complications, but it wouldn't boot the flash drive for Windows. Trial and error what worked for me is I created a bootable flash drive with rufus then followed the rest from the gpd site and it worked

[@austintse5719]

Thanks for this review. I love your in depth graphs and settings. It speaks my language because I love to tinker. I already have a Win Max 2 so I know what the 6800u is a capable of. I will be putting my order in.

[@jgil8466]

The Vita walked so the GPD 4 could run

[@watermelon1221]

thanks for pointing out portrait connected panels on a landscape screen

[@saiyanraoh5109]

I assume the optimization guide you did here can be used on the Win Max 2, right? It's the same hardware.

[@ruineka_one]

Now this is what I've been wanting!!

[@meowmeow2759]

I love the size!

[@XzaroX]

26:00 I can find something to complain: No FN Numpad. Max 2 has an FN Numpad, no reason why then Win 4 couldn't have it. 27:25 I agree that it;s great to have customisation, but I disagree about the default layout being "not great". It is by far, the best layout out of all the handhelds. Things like page up, page down, etc, help with browser and text box navigation. They can also still be bound in games without controller support.

[@butterspoker1211]

I have a GPD win 3 and would love if you could do a comparison to see if its worth the upgrade.

[@mystechry]

The price for the cheapest model is really great. It's good to see that GPD does not sell their products at a reasonable price now and not too much overpriced. Handheld prices have went up too much

[@blasphemous24]

How much are you talking about? IGG only sells them for 900 now..:(

[@hernanpe3832]

Great review as always

[@steamdeckknights8978]

Now I like this review give some great insight B4 buying!!

[@sevenismy]

The benefit of more ram is that it can be used for disk cache, prolonging the lifetime of the SSD and slightly improving the performance (reducing dips)

[@switchdeck9164]

Never had an ssd die on me

[@tin2001]

Reads don't hurt flash. Writes do. Write caching on a battery powered portable device like this would be a recipe for data corruption. Could help with read caching on large game files though. As long as you don't let the battery get low and have to shut down.

[@dhs889]

@@tin2001 Yeah, no, unless you're going with knock-off brands from China, SSDs don't just go caput. I still have my SSD from... 2015 256gb with the OEM windows install that I keep putting into different machines.

[@Terreos]

I am very torn. I just put money down for the Onexplayer 2 Indiegogo and then this pops up. Complete opposite sides of the spectrum as far as being different sizes. But I have a lot of fond memories of my psp and I just really want my to relive those days. What to do. . .what to do. . .

[@plaistowjames6792]

Buy an AyaNeo 2

[@ebonstar4461]

Very cool device. Would love this

[@XzaroX]

This may sound weird, but please can you try and see how usable the trackpad is for FPS games, compared to Steam Deck's large trackpads?

[@MmM-yj9lb]

I love your video! I wondered, GPD WIN4 and AYANEO 2,which one will you recommend？I already have ayaneo 2 ，but i really don`t like the cooling performance。

[@bunzunbox8456]

Aya neo 2 or GDP 4 which one plz shine some light on me for Christmas 🎉

[@aru3]

how is suspend-resume (not hibernate) on the Win 4? is it stable and usable? If it's stable, then this is the Steam Deck killer for me.

[@gsharpshooter80]

Videos like these is why I Phawx with this channel

[@AstroThree]

When he says the Thumbsticks are "noisy" is he referring to the little clicks the alps sticks make when you move it out the deadzone?

[@nfriedly]

Damn. I love my Max 2, but you're making me want one of these too!

[@marcelo16]

What's the point of a 1080p screen on a gaming-focused handheld device that will have to rely on battery for handheld usage? Then it doesn't run quite some modern games at 1080p well to justify the higher battery to drive more pixels compared to a 720p or a 900p screen. Feels like those other devices are going for higher resolutions screens for bragging rights alone at the expense of battery life, you said the Win 4 has a larger capacity battery compared to the Deck, but from your assessment on battery life it seems it is not enough to offset the 6800U that works best at higher wattage compared to the Deck's APU plus the display also being a bigger drain on the battery than the Deck's 800p

[@antoniorsoftware]

Chinese products are all about bragging rights, they more capitalists and consumerists than even the Americans. Mao and Lenin are rolling in their graves.

[@lytiffrager2468]

I don’t have a portable gaming PC but I want one and I see a lot of different reviews on different type of gaming PCs and I think people are sleeping on this one. This one might be really good

[@FaerieDust]

First: I am in love with the very convenient lanyard/wrist strap attachment point. I know they're not fashionable, but I don't want to drop my (Very Expensive!!) tech because I'm jostled on the train or whatever. This is the first handheld PC that I really want despite being super happy with my base model Steam Deck. I still maintain that they're not genuinely comparable devices - the price points alone put them in two completely different categories, but this is one I'd want to save up for. Honestly I'd probably get the 32 GB, 1 TB model - RAM looks like it's soldered on and I definitely don't have the skills to mess with that, so getting the cheapest 32 GB model would be the most future proofed option (an absolute necessity since it's a Very Expensive device for me, it's not the kind of money I generally have to spend and certainly won't be able to spend every couple of years to upgrade to a new device). But yeah, man, I am TEMPTED. It's so expensive though, and even more so because I'll have to pay 25% VAT for the non-EU import (the custom's office online calculator claims there's no import duties, at least, but I'd have to confirm that with someone before trusting it tbh)

[@lumeronswift]

I wish price point put them in different categories in Australia - the minimum spec Deck costs only 5-15% less than the minimum spec GPD Win 4 here (depending on vendor, the 64GB model goes for between $850 and $1150 (AUD))... for an EMMC device... I assume that just means even our tech companies are scalping us. Luckily, IndieGoGo doesnt have such a price hike. I'd love to have one of the Valve devices, but not at an artificially $400 (AUD) higher price than it's worth.

[@FaerieDust]

@@lumeronswift @Lumeron Swift the Deck isn't officially sold in Australia yet - if you're buying it there, you're buying from a reseller/scalper who's inflating the price to take advantage of people who want a Deck and don't want to wait for the official launch. It'll definitely be significantly cheaper to buy it from Valve - the Asia prices are just a smidge higher than the European price, despite going through Komodo as a "middle man", so I'm pretty sure the price will remain more or less the same when it launches in Australia. So yeah, at those inflated prices I'd definitely discourage people from buying a Deck - you're absolutely being ripped off, and there's a lot of competition in or just slightly above that price that will be a better deal. (Also: idk how Valve handles warranty and repair for "unofficially" sold Decks, that could be a real issue) For me, I'd love a GPD Win 4 but it's way out of my budget even before adding VAT. If I had that kind of cash though, I wouldn't spend it on a scalper Deck. Either get something that's actually sold for that much money, or wait. No need to pay that difference to a scalper imo 🤷‍♀️

[@TimunKun]

Can u try 45W performance test compared to 15W and 28W ? Thank you

[@JosephHarry]

It is super nice looking. Just kinda wish it was not as expensive

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Quality costs.

[@Gorger12]

Not a huge fan of how small the screen is, or how little groove there is in the rear for comfort grips. The steam deck is pretty comfortable compared to any of these other handhelds.

[@Gorger12]

@@Jorr_G440 I have the win 3, onexplayer, and aya neo. The onexplayer is the only one with a griplike feature. The win 3 rubber grip case doesnt improve comfort much. The onexplayer is perfect to play on a table because of how high up the buttons are and the kickstand on the rear. You would likely agree if you owned any of them.

[@bryanthelyon]

Thank you! What battery pack would you recommend to recharge on the go?

[@muskwasis1705]

Try disabling SMT at 15w and it should do better than the steanmdeck

[@Zordiak]

Someone please answer this. What do you think the likelihood of the GDP Win 5 having the same form factor is? Should I wait for the next one? I love the form factor.

[@PeterNXavier]

You said you made a video on how to fix the vertical screen issue. I can't find that video.

[@voidandlight9600]

@The Phawx There should be a core disabling option in the bios, I was told there would be, would you mind checking if you can disable cores in the bios to save power?

Cant wait to see what new problems GPd Will ship their units with. Something that no youtuber with lot of fans talked about

[@Groboman]

Is it true? Gpd have higher faulty units than other companies? I mean deck too have % of faulty ones.

@@Groboman my GPd win 3 came doa in may 2021 (indiegogo backer), It wouldnt turn on. Opened the device to see what problem and It was the on/off ribbon cable. Talked with them for months , wanted me to send It with no date of returning It to me. I obviously said no, i could just install the ribbon cable they should send me. Then came the excuses for the piece, they did not have It for months. Finally, after sending kendyzhu daily mails, and tweeting my problem on their ads for GPd win pocket (and getting blocked by them on Twitter), they send me on november 2021 the piece. It arrived on January of this year. Installed It and could use my win 3. On top of It all, i receives the wrong wi fi chip (they advertised wifi 6, mine came with the old Intel wifi chip). And now my battery Life is at 25% after a year and a half of arriving in may 21.

[@Groboman]

@ wow that's pretty bad news indeed.Its understandable,that reviewers getting super polished devices...but other customers seems need hope, that their units,gonna be good.Yeah that's really sucks. Can you get a new battery for your device?

@@Groboman i Will use It until It dies for good. I dont think i Will be buying a new battery. I dont trust GPd anymore and dont want to spend more money in any of their products.

[@Groboman]

@ really sad when something like this happens, especially with such expensive devices. I mean my vita and 3ds are about 10years old,but still working great,how long those pc-portables gonna work...that's a question too. Hope you won't gonna have any more issues with your device.

[@stargeezer8427]

Thanks Phawx. BTW Ciphray's Bat link just goes to "Welcome to gpd_devices"........ Very frustrating after goofing around with LAYERS of MFA from Discord to not land where it was supposedly going.. Did it get moved?

[@marvlouslie2053]

After I get my new desktop built, I'm going to save up for this.

[@jeremyvasquez511]

Gpd win 4 versus gpd win max 2 which should I get?

[@ItsAkile]

I’m lost for words, good job is all

[@Johnmoe_]

As someone who mostly uses these portable devices on the bus, the smaller size is greatly appreciated! But the price is, unfortunately, too steep for me right now😢. Steam Deck it is until I find a similarly priced device in a smaller size. P.S. Valve please release a Steam Deck Mini!

[@protocetid]

Valve should do it and make it pocketable. They can keep the same specs to not give original SD owners FOMO, and they’d get to double dip like Nintendo with a different sized model.

[@bullettime001]

The reason that the d-pad is so good because it's using the same d-pad from the Vita

[@vertextwin1177]

This or the Aya Neo 2? I'm leaning toward the Aya, but is it the right decision 😓

[@Zeptrio]

I'd personnally prefer the win4 over the aya neo 2 but i guess it all depends on what you want from it.

[@vertextwin1177]

@@Zeptrio The bigger screen with no bezels on the Neo 2 is so nice. Probably don't need the physical keyboard since the virtual keyboard works fine in Windows tablet mode.

[@tomaspavka2014]

Yes it's difficult choice between aya or win4. If the money it's no problem for you aya it's maybe better choise: screen is really impressive and 10% powerful at the same tdp. After gpd have trackpad and keyboard and better design. For me I prefer win4 because I like play in bed. For sofa aya it's best 😁

[@vertextwin1177]

@@tomaspavka2014 You might be right! 😁

[@blaster915]

Ordered mine and I have a BIG question, is there a software where you can long press a button and have a side bar pop out with a TPD slider adjustment rather than the ugly and rough type in the exact number?

[@vybinn1805]

Nice, can you modify the led light of the Win4 and put in blue color for exemple?

[@xuimod]

Can't wait to use this connected to my RTX 3070 eGPU while on the toilet, on the subway and on the bus. Taking mass transit lux style is on another level bro.

[@sagbag856]

i'm actually very impressed. looks to be the best gpd yet

[@alonzosmith8289]

I was waiting for the phawx to make my decision. He did not disappoint I'm about to be a gpd win 4 owner

[@colinmaclaren8778]

Now that I have the retail device, this review was misleading. It can only go up to 32W TDP stock and 75Hz will result in serious frame skipping.

[@tenow]

Please review rumble. Is it linear or on/off? Is it audibly buzzing? Is there a difference between big and small motor?

[@ms9405]

Now if only their mapping software for the back extra "triggers" let you *map a HOLD button instead of just 1 button repeating.* OR If they made the triggers show up in literally any remapping program such as reWASD or XPadder...

[@mr.sniffles7268]

I'm tempted to sell my steamdeck and gaming pc and picking one of these up. I'm getting to the point were I just want a pocket able handheld device for everything

[@box3ador]

Did you do it?

[@ByrdRecords]

So amazing 😵‍💫

[@EPC3390]

Hello. Is the bat file outdated or something? I click on the discord link and that channel mentioned in the video doesn't exist. I don't know where to find the bat.

[@SkilletTom]

Would love to see battery tests for indie titles and less intensive games. This looks like a beast of an emulation station, and it's just absolutely crazy to see this playing cyberpunk..

[@SIPEROTH]

In the future if a game can't be run due to needing 32GB is probably not gonna run anyway due to the graphic abilities of the 6800U. So i think you are fine with 16GB.

[@HoboTurtle]

I got wm2 so I wasn't really interested in a win 4, but now that phawx puts it like this... i kind of want one now

[@RikuHino]

This thing looks absolutely amazing. I would buy it if it wasn't so pricy and I wasn't currently jobless lol

[@ulmwurttemberg1682]

Still going with AYA Neo 2 though this did shake my resolve. just not messing with GPD anymore. Sent my Win Max back for a dead SD card slot, had to replace the thumb sticks TWICE before getting Vita sticks, screen and trackpad issues, and that upgraded MB fiasco. I know that was then and this is now but I just can't do it.

[@CSpell83]

I really wish they had come out with these review units earlier. It maybe could have given the Ayaneo 2 some competition for my wallet.

[@CSpell83]

@@watchmejumpstart69 I have the GPD WIN 2, and one of the reasons I opted for the Ayaneo 2 was because people said they have pretty good customer service. I definitely get the quality control concerns here. These videos always tempt me though 😅

[@CSpell83]

@@watchmejumpstart69 it sucks about the GPD stuff. I really want to like them. That being said, it makes me more confident in my switch to Aya. This will be my first product from them and I'm pretty pumped 😁!

[@tomaspavka2014]

Aya neo 2 it's fantastic. But to expensive for me. I prefer upgrade my win 3 for win 4. And after save money for aya neo " phoenix point " 3 😍

[@matthewshankle518]

YES!!! Please show the gutts!!!

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

Hey, could you try disabling half the CPU cores? That should give some more power headroom for the iGPU.

[@Phanbot01]

I was hyped for this but with the introduction of devices coming to market with the 7840U, I am willing to hold out and see if GPD jumps onto this new apu in the same form factor as the Win 4.

[@Jeremy_Huggins]

Please mention minimum brightness in a follow up video. So far only the steam deck seems to be playable at night.

[@sanyaiase2165]

how did you set 45 w tdp? Ive tried to on my win max 2 and it simply jumps back down to 28w like in the BIOS,

[@LiamMarcon]

Did you compare turbo boost on and off? I have the 2022 ASUS G14 and have noticed in some games you lose basically no performance but drop temps noticeably. Other games you do lose performance, its obviously dependent on the game. I'm not sure if that is as viable with the 6800U but I would think that dropping temps would be very useful on such a small device.

[@fairydust3792]

Can you play the Sims 4 on this like the steam deck?

[@eiceys4612]

Did you see on the gpd win max 2 discord someone that run fps benchmark at 800p low resolution for 16gb and 32gb model and get a 10 fps difference? Thanks

[@niqgal3356]

Apologies for the silly question but how does one even get games on this thing in the first place? Interested in getting it for my upcoming birthday and have no idea how to even put games on it - is it via the Microsoft Store? A Google search hasn’t helped me.

[@battman505]

How do you get 6800u to 45w tdp and can other 6800u handhelds achieve this?

[@chamoo232]

The GPD 4 is the only one with a 45wh battery. The Steam Deck in comparison has a 40wh battery.