Elon Musk | Philosophy Tube

[@PhilosophyTube]

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[@parallel4]

> 2 days ago :thonk:

[@Erika-gn1tv]

Skt skt skt skt...

[@sampaiosamps9930]

Muskwatch

[@blazearmoru]

"In order for a person to make profit..." 17:00 I am probably missing something but when two people get more done due to cooperating. Lets say alone we can make 10x in a day, but together we can make 30x. If we split it down the middle, I'm paying you less and you're paying me less than what we added. After all, if I/you can only make 10 alone, and with my/your addition we can now make 30, we both added 20. Unless we both get 20 from 30, we're evil exploiters. I don't think that's how any of this works so I think I'm missing something here. And since the original 'full amount' is 10... why is it evil for two to get 15? At any time we could buy some raw mats, create stuff, and sell on ebay or some other site for the original 'full amount' of our worth, however much per time that may be (though there are laws and regulations preventing much of that which I can't comment on due to lacking knowledge into laws.). Furthermore, those who make 15 and don't spend it all, if we assume that it can be used or converted to food amongst other things like entertainment, then the time saved or gained from saving and spending differently than others could therefore be reinvested into means of production which might require the assistance of others, which goes full circle back to the point in co-op. When we pair the option of co-op & the option to self employ, it seems like a substantial amount of 'exploitation' gets removed from the equation.

[@Jonathantheweirdo]

+blaze armoru If both alone make 10x, they are making a total of 20x. If they get together and make 30x each one is adding 5x by collaborating, if they get back 15x that's 10x plus the 5x they are making together. Nobody's being exploited there.

[@lars3603]

The fact that Abbys old name is on the screen while she lists fictional characters is too good

[@nobody8328]

She wasn't kidding when she said she's waited a long time to come out publicly!

[@liberablu]

You' re cool for noticing

[@MaartensenPSLp]

Could also be because it was her stage name, if I'm not mistaken

[@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv]

@@Slouch1234 What’re you on about?

[@miloformiles]

Yeah, it would be round about then that she'd start 'living in her gender' according to gender recognition certificate criteria (which she claims she has, or at least she claims she's done all the legal stuff).

[@renzer1432]

It's pretty sad that I had to watch a video on Marxism to understand flirting.

[@l4nternz]

SAME

[@flourflower3499]

Same. Ollie just explained flirting to me better than anything else ever has before, and now I finally get it.

[@tortture3519]

@@flourflower3499 Same

[@princesseuphemia1007]

I'm right there with you.

[@neo-babylon7872]

Who knows, maybe in a couple months you'll watch a video on flirting and understand marxism. That's why I love youtube.

[@kallepunkken]

Friedrich Engels on the topic of charity: "The bourgeoisi is chairtable out of selfinterest; it gives nothing outright, but makes a bargain with the poor, saying: 'If I spend this much upon benevolent institutions, I thereby purchase the right not to be troubled any further, and you are bound thereby to stay in your dusky holes and not to irritate my tender nerves by exposing your misery.' "

[@red-baitingswine8816]

Bill Gates (& others?) imo takes it a step further, in that his "charity" has the stink of investment/empire-building. Tentatively, I see Musk somewhat differently than this - maybe because I'm a fan of his work and his (imo honest, in spite of his tendency to go for publicity) rhetoric. .

[@red-baitingswine8816]

"Shit floats." : )

[@indranujray214]

Yeah, n it goes further in a saying: "When I feed the poor, they call me saint. But when I ask why they are poor, they call me communist".

[@kallepunkken]

@@indranujray214 true. But is it bad to be called communist?

[@indranujray214]

@@kallepunkken Depends upon the perspective. Bad for the oppressors, good for the oppressed.

[@strawberrylemonadesorbet2886]

She is SUCH a good actor. That American accent is on point, and that was the best fake/satirical TED talk I've ever seen. Like oh my goodness. It's so good I almost want to laugh, but it's so good I can't laugh.

[@aproudresidentofinnsmouth9105]

and she mispronounces judea in the same way an American would, it's ridiculous

[@waytoobiased]

It seems more like a Stevenote than a TED talk to me but idk

[@destituteanddecadent9106]

Are you non-American 😭Because the accent is some uncanny valley shit. Her content never fails to be good brainfood though.

[@hellojjjetplane]

Throwing money at a tree and yelling investment was a great visual metaphor

[@hamishlambert6550]

It was art

[@drivers99]

It’s also a reference to the old LARP viral video of a guy yelling “lightning bolt!” while throwing something.

[@youtoober2013]

Ever try throwing money at a person?

[@cannaroe1213]

Ever try throwing workers at a tree?

[@SkittyBlackfire]

Totally worth it filming outdoors

[@fern5505]

I love the use of Pontius Pilate in this. He fits so well, with both the washing of the hands, and the fact that he is a real man, who has been fictionalized as a literal saint.

[@samt3412]

Rarely has Pilate been seen as a saint in my church, or any church. The guy who gave Jesus Christ the death sentence might not be viewed so well by the people who worship Jesus

[@Deschutron]

@@samt3412 The weird thing is he was doing God's work when he did that.

[@Pfpfpfpfpf2020]

@@Deschutron yeah feels like Sam should be thanking Pontius for fulfilling the prophecy 🤷‍♀️

[@LW-ng1fl]

the apostles creed says jesus "suffered under pontius pilate" so saints not exactly it

[@LindsayEllisVids]

C A V E D A D D Y M A X I M U M

[@vtg7098]

Lindsay Ellis ayyyy P A P I

[@RobertB0H]

Is Musk the Chad to your Stacey?

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

One of my favorite youtubers commenting on another of my favorites in a video where he comments on a third. And all of it in a context of anti-corporatist hypocrisy while on youtube owned by Google... There's a limit to how much you CAN do within the system. Do what you can, recognize problem. Work to fix it.

[@drunkenpotatohedbop8255]

Yooooooo

[@heathercalun4919]

Why "Cave Daddy"?

[@trinityhicks6902]

in just under two years, elon musk went from being the 53rd richest person in the world to the 8th

[@zoeredadams]

He’s like number 5 now

[@CorruptPianist]

Fucking Christ

[@monad_tcp]

@@zoeredadams and I put my money on him and won, I too become I little rich, and so there it goes round and round, now I'm part of the system

[@saltandvinegar2420]

@@monad_tcp Not entirely sure how this is relevant, but nice flex

[@vodkatamarindo9387]

Yeah with goverment subsidies. Literal tax payer money

[@Lilac_Lotus]

Your section on flirting kinda explains right-wing dogwhistling, too. Neither person's gonna say outright that they're racist, sexist, transphobic or whatever, but it's about leaving little suggestive hints so they can confirm the other party is on their wavelength.

[@mr.goldfish1530]

Flirting *is* dogwhistling.

[@sundayschoolflunkie3979]

It's about staying subtle enough to not get found out by the general public but direct enough that the insiders will know you when they hear you. To those who know the signals, they see them everywhere.

[@goldxahn5247]

Wow this blew my mind ,the most beatiful nice thing to do with a stranger And the most disgusting thing people can do to exclude each other are functionaly the same

[@goose4919]

@Toxic Neon Gas none of us are anti male, anti straight or anti white. Anti capitalist, yes

[@goose4919]

@Toxic Neon Gas Conservatives oppose contraception, abortion and closing the gender wage gap. They opposed gay marriage and now oppose laws preventing discrimination against LGBT people in the workplace and in restaurants. They oppose laws like affirmativ action and supported Jim Crow and redlinining back in the 60's. They support killer cops and are against BLM. Also you probably don't know what socialism is.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Contra Points has been a good influence

[@pixocrayon7766]

She's the best bad influence that is.

[@yltraviole]

@@pixocrayon7766 the only correct take

[@awlomthesheepermen]

I also see a hbomberguy influence

[@YensR]

12:45

[@hatchibyebye]

down to the piano ballad at the end!

[@olivianeugeboren602]

Mmmm stop flirting at me through the camera you beautiful man

[@jordank1489]

@annie c nailed it!

[@TheStyluss]

@annie c lighten up!!

[@RabidDogma]

@annie c He's clearly stealing the value of our viewership to generate his own profit! PROFIT IS THEFT! DOWN WITH THE PHILOSOPHICAL PATRIARCHY! But seriously. Profit is literal theft. Fuck Elon.

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

god my heart skipped a beat

[@SkittlesInYourHand]

@annie c He actually has a video about this lol

[@user-em3vg6ui4g]

"In order to give wealth you must first take it" "Every penny of a billionaire's fortune is a penny of unpaid work someone else did" "Praising wealth holders for their generosity or people who got where they are because of their workers as visionaries who did it alone" Some good quotes from video

[@oscardighton8580]

Well not really, most billionaires pay their workers and Elon pays them very well

[@jhakardballoch2986]

@@oscardighton8580 True, but some might argue that all the money to be distributed between all people evenly or even just directly equal to their contribution. What gives Elon the right to have more money than the people he relies on? Simply the world we live in and the way hes taken advantage of it. Not necessarily evil, but capitalism relies on the simple basis that money is finite and in order to advance you cannot be more generous than you are greedy.

[@oscardighton8580]

Jhakard Balloch well Elon started the company and built himself largely by himself

[@jhakardballoch2986]

@@oscardighton8580 I'm not discrediting Elon at all. Elon did work hard to be successful, but there are many others that also work hard but do not end up as wealthy. ya feel me. the world has always been capitalistic because people at the top like lots of money, but I'm just pointing out that that isn't the only way

[@caleb1031]

It's almost as if he's describing how the economy works...

[@yuvalne]

"Elon Musk is the 53rd richest person on Earth". Yeah, about that...

[@friendly1016]

Hey, I'm from the future to say he just out-capitalismed Bezos. So yeah....about that....

[@grantvonhagen7341]

@@friendly1016 he went back down.... Yeah

[@HeadlessZombY]

came here to say the same thing

[@ardethjven813]

It took two fucking years

[@pretty948]

Yeah...

[@setlerking]

19:43 When you said “praising wealth hoarders for their generosity” was the moment I became an overt socialist. That symbolises so much about what’s wrong with Liberal capitalism

[@imacatman8775]

I’m with you, let’s fight the good fight my dude.

[@MaxGlycine89]

Welcome to the revolution friend.

[@MaxGlycine89]

@Baxis Renn wow, I'm as shocked as the first 1,000 times someone made that argument. And yet, dipshits like you keep making it. I don't think you believe you'll convince anyone, either. You just have to justify your own ideology to yourself so you spout some shit you haven't really thought through your own self. Maybe, when they say wealth hoarder, they actually mean wealth hoarder. Like. You know Bezos can't spend all his money in one lifetime, right? That's what hoarding means.

[@SeanLaMontagne]

@Baxis Renn Most progressives consider billionaires Wealth Hoarders.

[@calin6327]

@@MaxGlycine89 Where is that "hoarder money not helping anyone"? In a bank. What does a bank do? It loans the money to everyone. Voila. So much with the hoarding... Someone is not a hero for being generous with their wealth.. someone is not a villain for being rich.

[@OmbreDunDouble]

"Steal a lot and return a little, it's philantropy" - Paul Lafargue

[@diiasze3743]

i cant tel you how much i hate philanthropy, i was at work and some rich kid was justifying capitalism in the 3rd world with that shit i wanted to chock his neck

[@TMThesaurus]

What exactly do the capitalists make?

[@rosalindchapman9035]

Strange how folks with adolf hitler in their username defend capitalism.

[@kyuumann500]

Rosalind Chapman How’s that strange?

[@tedarcher9120]

It's called state welfare program

[@stupendoushorrendous8258]

*Liberal Communist is a contradiction* Your average conservative: "wait that ain't right, them's the same!"

[@inxendere]

yea i was gonna say what the guy above said

[@JSpradley123]

This is 2020, they are also anarchist totalitarian fascists too

[@thomasneal9291]

@@JSpradley123 and terrorists, don't forget.

[@thomasneal9291]

Liberal commie fascist antichristian FEMA-loving working-man hating terrorists. dontchyaknow.

[@icypeanutpolo]

@@thomasneal9291 AND THEYRE FEMINISTS

[@mikec3172]

Getting flirted with by Olly and getting crucified by Olly within 5 minutes is a very weird vibe and I don't know if I should feel abused.

[@sprout_gen]

kinky

[@Mustachioed_Mollusk]

For the watch!

[@juanchavez1176]

I’m into it

[@tenfivesmiths7802]

that's my fetish

[@XenaBe25]

ikr. Washing my hands before I flirt... who woulda thunk? xD

[@alexanderpurkis3508]

Everyone knows that you don't make a chair by throwing money at a tree; you start a company and import chairs from wherever chairs grow.

[@MrRNN3]

I love that you picked up a bit of that artsy style that we all know and love from Contrapoints and HBomberguy. Man Leftist KZbin istn't just politics, it's politics and art!

[@tonyruiz7561]

Politics, art AND style!

[@wgo523]

@@lelouchthebaneofbritannia6890 it's so funny how pathetic that format looks compared to something like this channel. -research -actual scripts -nuance -not constantly insulting people -creativity -contributing to the conversion instead of rehashing meme-like talking points -more fun -doesn't make me physically ill to watch

[@Jrez]

The problem is that anti-SJWs already have the entertainment focus, hence the large amount of young and otherwise new people "joining the cause," so to speak. This is still lacking for the SJW side in an important way. Kids don't care about research and scientific backing, they are drawn in by the emotion and personality and when they set THOSE personalities as authorities in their eyes, THEN they listen to the actual points. SJWs who want to win people over could be grasping the selfish and egoistic reality of how people operate a bit better. A common belief seems to be that people deep down are altriustic, but I would argue that they are ultimately self-interested, and only practice altruism when it benefits them emotionally or in some other way.

[@jdprettynails]

and sex appeal! Olly and Natalie make me feel.....things.

[@TheSchmuck2]

a e s t h e t I c

[@osanneart9318]

"Arguably we live in another backlash right now" Me: What do you mean arguably? haven't you seen- oh right this video is two years old.

[@Personal_Chizo]

Ahhh, that new mic sound...

[@theiveyed8677]

I remember when Caesar invented Slavr, the new app to buy and sell gaullic slaves cheaply and conveniently.

[@PhilosophyTube]

One of the bits I was most proud of was when he said 'job opportunities' and a picture of a slave auction came up

[@EMSpdx]

*ded*

[@robrobillard1746]

Farging oresim.

[@hankschannel]

*clears throat...tugs on collar*

[@chescokun]

You can jump ship, Hank! Why would you be OK with a corporate autocracy in the first place!? Instead of a boss-employee relationship, you could have comrades! Isn't that what your comunity building has always been about?

[@jakedcruz7057]

+

[@jakedcruz7057]

Just wondering, did someone tell you about this or do you usually watch PhilosophyTube? (Also, are you a secret leftist?)

[@tomhunt113]

@@chescokun +

[@quiroz923]

Aww, my favorite liberal communist :*

[@ElvenWisdom]

I always say a famous Tolkien quote, and believe in it: If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. ~J.R.R. Tolkien

[@kenthendl]

this is literally why weed and LSD are illegal

[@greengemini54]

what if we kissed 💖🙈💖 wearing che guevara tshirts

[@jeffjeffjeffjeffjeffjeffje7774]

haha just kidding... unless?...

[@delve_]

No. Haha, jkjk. ...unless?

[@RamónCarenga]

Not to disrespect my homie Che, but in early life he had some of that homophobia, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t stan him, just know he was a bit sospecho. Stan people like my homie Thomas Sankara, Vladimir Lenin, or the sexiest man alive José Mujica

[@arthurvandenbergh1881]

😳

[@tshred666]

Fucking tankies. Though Sankara was pretty based tho

[@Patricia_Taxxon]

>as we start employing musicians is this a call out

[@PhilosophyTube]

To myself, since the musician I commissioned kicks in in the background on that exact word lol

[@Sour_BlackBerry]

Why does your name not have a check by it?

[@dylanchouinard6141]

It’s honestly a shame that Nikola Tesla became one of these Comprehensive Designers, he really did want to use his technology to help people regardless of corporate profit. In fact his plan for free, wireless electricity was shut down because it would essentially destroy capitals control of energy.

[@maciejkaczorowski1272]

Blame fucker Edison

[@phangkuanhoong7967]

given enough time, anyone and anything that opposed the system, will be recuperated and co-opted by the system. again, Che Guevara t-shirts

[@33deputat]

I really hope the thing about wireless electricity is an irony on your side...

[@dylanchouinard6141]

WinglessSparrow why on earth would it be? Regardless of whether or not it worked, the idea of free energy for all was done against the wishes of Tesla’s capitalist benefactors

[@33deputat]

@@dylanchouinard6141 It didn't worked out, because, my dear friend, you will need so much electricity to power this "free energy" machine, that the complete country wouldn't be able to support it. It's theoretically possible, but factually impractical. It's like Drinking water from a cup, but the cup is 20 Meters above you and it's very windy and you are trying to catch those water droplets by standing in one place, and in addition to that the stream of the water is very limited. Tesla wasted a lot of his genius, time and money on a completely useless idea. But props for the alternating current thou.

[@McCurmudgeonify]

Elon Musk has spent more on gender affirming surgeries than most trans people will probably ever be able to. This is both a very funny fact to point out to his fans and deeply sad at the inequity of the world

[@kenthendl]

i love your comment but you should also remember that hair transplants aren't all that manly considering men are known for balding XD

[@RM-yw6xe]

@@kenthendl I could grow a full head of hair if I wanted. I'm bald by choice. If I could have all my hair removed permanently, I'd do it... maybe Elon can foot that bill for me. lols

[@jennaramsey9051]

“Whether you’re a Marxist or not cool”

[@Kaarli]

correct, comrade jenna.

[@RamónCarenga]

Correcto, comandante Edgy Socialist

[@SGSOnlineTV]

Korrekt, Kommandant Ramón

[@Kaarli]

Korrekt, comrade SGSOnlineTV

[@SGSOnlineTV]

Richtig, Genosse @@Kaarli

[@xelacosplay]

i see olly went to the hbomberguy school of metaphorical cutaways set in woods

[@LimeyLassen]

something something cinematic universe

[@TheNugettinage]

@@LimeyLassen Lefttube Cinematic Universe. Contra, Philosophy Tube, Badmouse et al. Are the Avengers, Lindsay Ellis, Hbomberguy and others more focused on media are the Guardians of the Galaxy

[@atelic7978]

@@TheNugettinage don't forget Shaun

[@oof-rr5nf]

Oh good. I like. Where do I get the tickets??????

[@lunarotimas]

@@oof-rr5nf on youtube, of course. pre screenings on patreon.

[@csurname]

I almost understand flirting now and await the full video on it.

[@tombrett590]

Pilate killed jesus, but he only did it ironically, bro...

[@caleb1031]

If your job was to uphold the law, and you sentence a person to death row, does that make you a murderer?

[@tombrett590]

@@caleb1031 I would probably say so, of course the blame wouldn't be solely on you (the system that you work within where you are put in charge of deciding whether ppl live or die would also be at fault) but yes I think you would be a murderer for killing someone, even if they deserved it.

[@coriander4853]

@@tombrett590 I think the key part is in whether or not the person wants to participate in the system where they uphold the law via killing. If a government were to designate someone as an executioner in spite of their desire not to, and that person kills someone as a part of that system, I would say that they have done manslaughter and not murder. That murder would be upon the person who made the choice between life and death. But if a person were to volunteer to be someone who either executes people or maybe they volunteer to be a person who judges whether someone gets the death sentence, that person is a murderer because they chose to be in a position where someone’s life was in their hands. This in part is why I agree with the statement, “ACAB” because cops chose to uphold a corrupt and unjust system. No person is born a cop or an executioner, there is a point where they accept that they are okay with murder.

[@kristofszabo666]

He was a puppet of Jahve, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have died. It was already planned 33 years before that.

[@brennam954]

@@caleb1031 He was a "divine" absolute ruler; he literally made the laws. He killed Jesus because he was a threat to his power. How can you be so disingenuous? From defending capitalism to defending Pontius Pilate...jeez, where are your morals.

[@aw-fz7gg]

I wonder when people will stop idolizing rich people and start recognizing their guilt and how exploitation got them where they are

[@othmaneanani8995]

aw How more obtuse can you get? It is this attitude that makes people cower and not build themselves and become competent instead of remaining faceless and namesless and not being able to make history.

[@naj4261]

Othmane Anani Do you know Stalin? He wasnt a capitalist and is famous.

[@othmaneanani8995]

@@naj4261 Yes but he's not competent or on the right side of history and certainly not rich. He was responsible for the death of millions in Ukraine (1929-1931) that starved to death and then capitalized on canibalism.

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

@@othmaneanani8995 Bla bla bla... Fuck the rich.

[@othmaneanani8995]

sali Your question is a logical fallacy. The death of people in Ukraine was because the communists took the harvest of the year, torn down the land owners and sent them to the gulag. A year after, and because there was no land owner to invest and circulate the economy by hiring farmers to farm lands and therefore everybody at least would not be starving, people started starving and then turned into cannibals. Because the only time people would be starving under capitalism would be because there is something out there that stops the economy and you can't do anything about it like the black Thursday 1929 where the government would try to make banks cut the interest rates and cut the taxes to loosen things up but the only reason why people would be starving under communism is because there is an inherent feature that fetters people from thriving and try to hand down a piece of bread and failed in the long term like the Holodomor famine 1932-1933 in the Soviet Ukraine. There is no incident in the history of capitalism where the rich is getting richer and the poor are eating themselves except if there is crisis that affect both classes or if the poor are outside the hierarchy of capitalism like in some countries in Africa and I am african so I can vouch for that. Now my question to you would be to give me any of moment where the capitalist economy is thriving and the rich is getting richer but there are people starving, any moment of that? And please don't you ever use frivolous thinking and actual produce some intellectual thoughts

[@0darkhero0]

You can see the Contra influence, I love it.

[@jonwhite8815]

Is this some of that postmodern neomarxism that daddy warned me about?

[@IamBHM]

No, this is Marxism Classic.

[@Beatness121]

thanks lobster dad

[@mathewklatil5455]

Yes

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

Ah, a fellow ContraPoints fan I see.

[@pissguzzler9604]

If Elon is tech daddy is Dr Peterson lies daddy

[@PixelWars-zv5zj]

This is the first philosophy tube video that I ever saw, and it led me to binge philosophy tube content for hours a day. During the pandemic this channel has been a welcome source of happiness in my life.

[@brokencannon9174]

Between contra, hbomb, and olly here got me out of the anti SJW spiral. I'm hoping one of them will do an episode on the book "why socialism?" Though

[@pinksnake8001]

Try Vaush's channel too :)

[@crazyaf12]

Shaun is also really good

[@CarrotConsumer]

Maybe you should just read books instead.

[@ZonaGreenTea]

Ealdy Maybe he already has and just wants to hear another take on the material?

[@fearofbird.]

Broken Cannon watch Jacob Geller

[@Paralellex]

"You can throw as much money as you like onto a sheet of metal" Amazing how you were able to pin down the manufacturing process of the Cybertruck a year before its debut.

[@bravetherainbow]

Obviously this is a fun joke, but the point is "throwing money at something" in the figurative sense still involves employing people in alienating work (especially alienating because what they are working on might not even benefit anyone at all) Whereas his point about throwing money at a sheet of metal is literally just throwing money at it. Money on its own does nothing, you need wage slaves to actually get work done and generate the wealth you want.

[@markwhitney3746]

Well, if you throw the money at it too hard the windows’ll break.

[@roadent217]

@@bravetherainbow "(especially alienating because what they are working on might not even benefit anyone at all)" So all innovation and risk is evil? We should be shackled to tradition just in case we accidentally fail? In the early 1900's dozens of automobile start-ups popped up - most created single-digit units of prototype proof-of-concept cars, failed to find investment, and went bankrupt. Oh, how evil, how malicious Karl Benz was for daring to own a gasoline engine factory which led to the creation of the automobile! How many man-hours of work were wasted due to his shenanigans! Instead of leeching off enough money from his employees to make a vanity project of an autonomous carriage, he could have paid his employees a bit more instead. Who needs tractors, trucks and mass transit anyways?

[@bravetherainbow]

@@roadent217 You could literally justify slavery with the argument you're making. If we just enslaved a whole race of people think of the amazing things we could accomplish! The slaves won't like it but that's too bad, we need INNOVATION Also lol do you really think if Karl Benz hadn't ever existed then we still wouldn't have automobiles in 2020? Why would you ever think that? Do you think Karl Benz had magic powers? My point was that there is a huge difference between A. trying something of your own accord that ends up failing, and B. being forced to work on someone else's idea that you have no input in and you get no credit for, just so you have enough money to pay rent, which ends up being useless anyway.

[@popopop984]

@@roadent217 As long we enslave everyone in Europe we can have infinite renewable energy. It’s innovative for sure and the technology will definitely be helpful so it’s justified right?

[@jeremyneill227]

I think about the pontius pilate thing when people say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" which is true and can be a valuable thing to say, but the context with which its used sometimes feels like a dodge, like they're less saying we need to get rid of this system which is inherently unethical and more saying "im innocent of this man's blood". same sentiment when that's your answer to someone bringing up the exploitation inherent in a good you've bought.

[@oof-rr5nf]

oof, i completely agree

[@Greener221]

So there is no solution, and we’re just circling the drain playing the blame game while the world just fucking burns. See, this is why we need things to actually start happening. So we can quit playing a tug of war on guilt and start actually carving up the planet into ideological government and economic systems.

[@BasilNUmeh]

What is ethical consumption?

[@Greener221]

@@BasilNUmeh That's the joke.

[@possumhead2812]

Yeah right? Sometime's it's just such a cop out. Like okay well we're not bringing out the revolution tomorrow, so what do we do right now? We don't even bother trying to be more ethical?

[@NorthernKitty]

I grew up during that transition from Communalism to "Cyberspace is going to set you FREE!" In fact, I was a big part of it and truly believed computers were going to "change the world for the better". I started out as part of a small software company in the early 80's that had big dreams of "changing the world" but that ended up mostly wrote gaming software or the tools to create gaming software because that's where the money was. So I left. I then went to work for a retail outlet that I was impressed sold mostly Apple products and educational software to schools and universities, with lofty goals of "empowering the next generation with knowledge and creativity" but they were ultimately so concerned about their bottom line that they quite often took advantage of school budgets to sell overpriced crap to eke out a profit. So I left. I then went to work for a "non-profit" hospital to run the Information Technology department, thinking I was part of the machine "helping to save lives", but then had to sit through board meetings where we did cost-shifting of prices that disproportionately placed a financial burden on the poorest people in our community (the uninsured or under-insured), and whose executive management voted for bonuses for themselves while cutting employee benefits. So I left. I then went to work for a public health department as support staff for their computer systems, helping to ensure they had the tools necessary to carry out public health tasks, but witnessed their management systematically conspire to eliminate an employee's job because she came out as transgender (instead of recognizing the public health challenges and discrimination she faced and support her). So I left. Then I went to work as computer support for a mental health organization and watched them place grant money ahead of patient treatment and who fired the manager I worked for because he didn't play the right kind of politics in the organization. So I left. For a short while I was into blockchains and crypto with the hopes that it would revolutionize our economy and help to close the gap on income inequality. Until I saw people using it for ponzi schemes to mass immense wealth for themselves. So I left. I no longer have anything to do with computers - they are just one more tool enabling and in many cases even accelerating the greed of Western culture. Pontius Pilate was the perfect symbol for this piece. I feel like I washed my hands many times until I finally learned "damn, fool, just don't get them bloody anymore, mmkay?"

[@reytop5064]

Strange question: What country are you from?

[@aliceramenhead]

I was thinking of going back to school to take up something tech-related, in the hopes of "changing the world for the better"...I don't know what to do with my life after reading this comment 😭😭😭

[@flora-webp]

This was so well written. Thank you for sharing your perspective

[@dianamiftakhova5047]

I disagree with the correlation "computers = tool for evil" as it can be assumed from your comment. As with any other technology, computers can be used for many reasons and purposes. And it's people who fill it with reason. Still, technology can shape behavior. E.g., social media a specifically designed to make us spend as much time online as possible. Recent Abigail's video on Transhumanism covers it very well. However, it says more about the intentions of those who designed this software, and not the technology itself.

[@NorthernKitty]

@@dianamiftakhova5047 My point was actually how even a "good tool" fails to improve human behavior. Technology is never intrinsically going to "change the world for the better". Rather, people being better themselves will. Sorry you missed it.

[@borednerd5767]

the thing you said round 22:30 reminded me of something my dad told me. He works for the UN and soon after my 18th birthday I spoke to him about his personal responsibility in world issues and his role in all of it and he told me that he realised recently that he used to have the same passion as me but lost it somewhere on the way- as a kid he vowed to make the world better so he joined the system to change the system from inside, but eventually you get sucked up in the system and forget why you joined in the first place. the passion is back now and very much being fuelled by my regular socialist rants lol

[@bbinkovitz]

Agitate! Educate! Organize!

[@Kino_Cartoon]

I'm rooting for your dad now!

[@orchdork775]

What a wonderful thing to have your own child inspire you to be the person you always wanted to be. I hope he is proud of you 😊

[@auerbacher69]

as a very socially inept introvert i appreciated the comprehensive guide to flirting.

[@mattwong5403]

"Elon Musk is intelligent because he's a billionaire." These are probably the same people who think Donald Trump is intelligent.

[@faismasterx]

My favorite are the ones who think he's a *GENIUS* .

[@Blartyboy]

Its weird watching this is 2020 when he mentions Elon Musks net worth. He has earned over 90 billion dollars in two years. Thats scary.

[@razizarook5366]

Hating on soneone just cause he's rich is just better.

[@Junebug89]

@@Blartyboy generous use of the word "earned"

[@razizarook5366]

@DougtheDonkeyTV oops

[@vampirebicth]

my therapist: american accent philosophytube isn't real and he can't hurt you american accent philosophytube:

[@puzzles7413]

woah is it weird that i didn't even realize he was doing a different accent because my mind just registered it as "capitalist dude" like i'm literally american and my accent sounds just like that and im realizing i associate it with capitalism

[@DianaAmericaRivero]

Unpopular opinion: British actors are just as bad at American accents as American actors are at speaking in British accents. Big fan of Olly's, but not the accent. Like nails on a chalkboard... *shudders*

[@tasteslikestupid4003]

my therapist: pontius pilate olly is not real and he can't kiss you pontius pilate olly:

[@homeworkbreak4237]

Every single time she uses an accent I don't notice and when she switches back I think 'holy shit, she's very British'

[@elliottowen-griffiths948]

@@DianaAmericaRivero late to the party but, idk about in the US but in the UK actors learn Standard American, an accent that just sounds generically American to non Americans who don't know the regional differences

[@ValeryPetrov1]

I was curious who Elon Musk is since I first heard talks of him in a cafeteria of an IT firm that I work in. Among my white young middle-class (by Ukrainian standarts) and cynical boys he is pretty genuenly and unonimusly praised for his 'progressive' views. In the very company that makes millions by exploiting game developers over-time labor and keeping their wages substantially lower then minimal wages in developed capitalist countries. Thank you for creating this video about him! It is very finely made both on theoretical an aesthetical levels, and I will use it as a source of arguments in my future debates with them!

[@akapushkin]

Yeah, good luck. If you prefer being unemployed rather than being exploited and get a good salary, it's a valid choice (that you still can get by quitting, I suppose). I don't think an option of "being employed and unexploited" realistically exists, unless you start your own company (for which you need investment, obviously) and inevitably start exploiting others, in order not to go broke (and then no one wins anyway).

[@plateman4352]

Olly you can't do that flirting part to me.... I'm here to learn.

[@star3176]

Plate Girl ahhhh I know right I’m trying to focus😍😍😍

[@kx7500]

He sees these comments and gets off to it I just know it

[@sasharemington6025]

Please don't go around spreading that, he's already gotten people showing up in his personal life asking him to do terrible things to them. If people think he is getting off to it, they'll just do it more. The man is a snacc and a half, but don't turn it into something like that.

[@bareakon]

"The hippies all had scattered off, To work their jobs at Microsoft, The love had died, the war was lost, And no-one really cared enough." Reagan's Kids - That Handsome Devil.

[@henrikejekel2247]

Interesting coming back here after him acquiring Twitter and showing the world who he really is

[@eclairz9275]

She*

[@threehams]

Prosecute*

[@ThePKNess]

@@eclairz9275 Didn't realise Elon Musk was trans.

[@flicnerdy4385]

@@eclairz9275 ABi owns twitter???!?!??

[@eclairz9275]

@@flicnerdy4385 Lmaooo, my bad, I was slightly stoned at the time of writing this comment and was on the defensive. Abi should own Twitter tho let's be real

[@Poisonfrogg]

Sadly, as someone who never understood the 'game' of flirting, this video actually explained quite well what I have been missing in this social interaction all of these years. Good job on that. The rest of the video was very good too.

[@bookworm3756]

This is the first time I've ever heard a good explanation of what flirting is. Thank you.

[@redstatesaint]

I don't know how many comments you actually read given your popularity, but I do actually wish to convey this message. Olly, really liked the final section of your video. You said something rather important, but fell short of a proper conclusion. The question of 'who will speak up for those workers in China and the Congo' is extremely important. The reason why the Left (and by that, I mean the likes of you) feels alone and isolated in most of the world is precisely because even the most serious Leftists preceding our generation signed a comfortably contract with the capitalist organisation of society. I'm from India, and can therefore speak in relation to my country. Most leftists (here they are just socialists and communists) in the wake of failed revolutionary action (warranted or not, justified or not..eg naxalbari movement) simply integrated into the system of governance and bureaucracy. I move around in these circles and know (or know of) such people (former Naxal sympathisers, trade union activists, student activists etc.), and the justification put forth by people with regards to their employment within the government services was almost always that their positions (as professors, bureaucrats, govt sanctioned NGOs) would help amplify their progressive message. But the reality was that most of them actually began to enjoy the prestige and the privilege of their positions. Their messages, even if sincere, were disconnected from much of what was really going on in India. They saw a meteoric rise in their own living standards in the two govts under PM Manmohan Singh, and their academic and bureaucratic progressivism just became a sort of non-alcoholic beer. They failed to be an organic whole with the people on whose back bone their new and comfortable​ lives were built. Through those years, a severe lack of trust separated the (now) two strata. Thus, when a right wing govt marched in in 2014, people wanted to hang these "intellectuals" who had essentially sold out to the system that crushed millions under its might, especially AFTER globalisation hit India. In a previous video, you had claimed that the reason why the Left would win is because we solidarize with the *weak* . And that is the correct formula. But does the Left, in concrete, in its _dasein_ form, really solidarize with the weak and the meek? That is why most of us feel sort of left out or alone in the online world, because our (real) politics is suppose to bring to the surface those people who are the disenchanted, disavowed and alienated within and by the current system (the white worker, the Vietnamese sweatshop, homosexuals in KSA and so on). That is the *trust* we ought to build. Everything apart from that, as Zizek would say, is *pure ideology*.

[@PhilosophyTube]

This is an amazing comment, thank you for leaving it! I felt too that the last section was missing something and now I realise what it was! Thank you! I'll definitely be mentioning this when I do the next 'Any Questions?' livestream. And I read all the comments :P

[@redstatesaint]

@@PhilosophyTube thanks. :)

[@andrewd3899]

d a s e i n

[@quiroz923]

If I may, I'd like to add a similar case from another postcolonial country: Here in Colombia we've been having failed revolutionary action for 60 years, which means we've basically been at civil war for 50 years, depending on how you look at it. And people are sick of it. All mainstream support for the guerrillas died in the 80s, when people grew tired of violent actions and war, specially after the extremely complex and unfortunate siege of the Justice Palace. We've had too many massacres to count, be it by the guerrillas, the army, or the paramilitary forces. Now, in the early 90s there was a peace process with one of the guerrillas, the M 19, and a few others. And then they became politicians, just like any other, with their bureaucracies and their publicity and their campaigns. But you know what? This had its advantages, too. For two reasons. First, in 91, under the centrist-ish liberal government, there was a constitutional convention and assembly, which gave us a new constitution, where the recently demobilized groups had a say. And that constitution is so much better. Are things good now? God, no, it's still a mess. But at least we share an idea for a better country. We went from being a "State based on rule of law" to "Social state based on rule of law". No one will question whether Health and education should be rights, as it happens in the US. We understand that they are and they must be, and even if our health system is a mess, we understand what it "should be" in a way that we didn't before. Second reason, bureaucrats as they are, the demobilizing of the former guerrillas helped us have real leftist parties on the ballots and in public positions. The democratic pole is a leftist party and it is a major party in the country, a step forward from the two party system we used to have. This year we have one of our most politically diverse congresses in our history. And this year, for the first time ever, an actual leftist candidate was the runner up for the presidential elections, a former guerrilla member no less (if you ask me he was not a very good candidate, but still, it's important). And their presence in congress and in local administration has done a lot of good for a lot of people. Navarro Wolf was a guerrilla rebel, and he did great things as mayor and governor, and thanks to the party he helped found we have real leftists in congress doing good work. Yes, it's integrating into the system, but having leftists working within the system has been an undeniable benefit. After 50 years of a failed civil war which has caused the death of thousands of innocent people, we leftists here prefer that. (Right now we're experiencing our second year of a very troubled peace with the FARC. It might work, or it might not, but it's better than the alternative, which is continuing civil war)

[@chescokun]

It's so beautiful to see that other Latin American countries getting a better grasp of reality. Here in Honduras our far-right government continually harasses leftwing activist, that we have very few of, they killed most of them in the 80's, and the killings never stopped, Jannet Kawas was an environmentalist that was killed in the 90's, and we even got more recent examples like Berta Caceres who was murdered in 2016. Many were massacred under the "leftist" Mel Zelaya in a controversial agrarian reform, but even this was to left wing for the powers that be, and they deposed him in '09, so they could forcibly install a far-right government that started with Pepe Lobo in 2012, and it heavily cracks down on "crime" (But it's mostly petty crime and political dissidents, the Narcos, the real danger, remains intact, only the gangs that oppose the bigger narco fish get taken out. ) So things are pretty grim here, our Partido Nacional has been historically liked to big business since it's foundation by a Military general Manuel Bonilla Chirinos. Since the foundation of the National Party, Honduras has had 13 Nationalist presidents. Manuel Bonilla was the first (1903-1907), and the most recent is the current president, Juan Orlando Hernández. And all of them deregulated the market and helped privatize business and government to the extent that it uses its catastrophes to drive privatization further. Now extending even to healthcare and education, so we are primarily a worse off version of the States with an actual despot as a leader, he also flaunts his military around like the classic caricature of dictators. And yes, unions are heavily discouraged. But why aren't we the North Korea of the Americas? Because it's a right-wing government, and we are allies for the States and puppet states to flock over to them whenever they need diplomatic backing up. We are a failed State, and even great attempts for revolutions like the one that occurred in 1954 ended in nothing but reform and slightly more centrist liberal governments for a while, but mostly because the US backed the military in exterminating the revolutionaries. And they still do, to this day, kill students, this week there are four down, two of them with substantial evidence that special police forces killed them, our journalist advocate for it openly on television. From where I am standing it is clear as day that violence is the only thing that keeps the system going. Only by denouncing the conservative creed of working for a living we shall end this, we need to take care of our needy and not bent to the will of the capitalists, but since the capitalists have help from the outside keeping the status quo, that's pretty hard to do.

[@eliasbischoff176]

You sort of bring up a question here that I have been asking myself for years now: Can a person living in a society built on injustice be judged for profitting from this injustice, if the society does not allow an alternative? I live in a capitalist country. I own a laptop. I have to own a laptop, because without it, I would have no chance at my education (I am studying social work, not to be confused with social studies) In my buying this laptop, I supported a system of injustice. The people who made this laptop are exploited and mistreated horrendously. But I use it for studying a subject that will allow me to work in a profession that has litterally been defined as helping those, who have been left behind by capitalism. (If I remember correctly, is was Heiko Kleeve, who said that in his work on system-theory. I might be wrong though. Also I think he didn´t invent system theory.) Without this laptop, I could not study this subject. I might be able to share a computer with someone else, to do the bare minimum like sign up for exams and courses, but then I still use a computer. I might decide not to study, do some other work, but is there any work today that does not rely on computers? I might decide not to work at all, only to be called a burden on society by those who profit from injustice. But on the other hand, were I to say that it is not my responsibility, because it is the only way to live that this society has shown me, it brings up more questions. How well do I actually have to live? I bought this laptop, because my old one had a broken screen. Half of the screen still worked, though. Would it be more accaptable, to keep using the broken one, so that my support for the system would be more limited? Do I need as many changes of clothes as I have, knowing that most of them are made under inhumane conditions? When does neccesity turn to greed, when does a need for comfort turn into lazyness? I have not found an answer to these questions yet.

[@heimwehwonach809]

I think this circles back to the argument, that capitalism is in itself flawed. I see these questions asked a lot and often it leads to a call of consuming less or more ethically. And while I generally agree, there is also the problem of shifting the responsibility of a systemic issue onto individuals who have no choice but to live in this system (meanwhile, of course, the system is nothing without its constant reproduction by individual people). As with your example of your (or my) laptop which was produced under unethical circumstances. You explain very well how it is nearly impossible to have a job, an education etc. without some sort of technical device. Now that means you are born in a society that expects you to use a laptop, in other words your participation relies on this device. At the same time I suppose we both live in countries which try to abide human rights. Now here's a dilemma because you cannot have a laptop and both not exploit workers who were involved in making it. However, and here I will argue from an interventionalist point of view: shouldn't the state ensure that the things we (need to) consume are ethically sourced? Is it really the responsibility of each individual to worry about their every purchase. Especially in a consumer society, a capitalist society that fails to function without consumerism? I feel like a lot of times in these conversations the individual responsibility (and impact for that matter) is highly overrated and we tend to forget that the state could very well intervene in the production of goods and set standards for the ways in which products are being made. I live in Switzerland and two weeks ago we had a referendum about the so called "corporate responsibility initiative". The aim of this initiative was to have swiss companies commit to making sure their production process as well as their suppliers comply with certain standards to protect people and nature. While the referendum gained the people's vote it was overturned by the parliament unfortunately. But this is an example of a demand we are allowed to pose to our governments. So there is no simple solution to our laptop dilemma, especially not one that we as individuals would be able to apply, but there is a possibility of setting (ethical) boundaries to a free market that violates human rights in the production of consumer goods. And I feel this is sometimes missing from the discussion about consumerism and buying ethically etc.

[@eliasbischoff176]

@@heimwehwonach809 To quote the amazing Katy Stoll: "I agree with you completely"

[@akapushkin]

Easy. Do your best. If you're really concerned with the ethical side of your purchases, make the effort and buy something that is "less unethical", and preferably only things that you need. In the end of the day, you have to live with yourself, and you're only responsible for yourself. Who knows, maybe grassroot movement manages to change the system - it already did many times, there have been changes to the manufacturing processes and trends that started this way.

[@Redentor92]

Your concerns pinpoint,for me, the absolute evidence that we live in a capitalist dystopian world, where although some try to fix things,the capital already won and we are just running in a hamster wheel producing gains to the masters, believing that if we run in a certain way, either slowly or fast or whatever, we will change things. We are trapped, just that and, again for me, the only way out is either a catastrophic natural event or a painfully slow process. Anyway this was typed in a phone made by slaves. So yeah.

[@eliasbischoff176]

@@Redentor92 sometimes it feels like running through a labyrinth filled with exit signs

[@highlonesomed]

leftytube is besttube. Love the effort everyone puts into their videos, how everyone covers different topics and its not just different talking heads telling you the exact same analysis over and over, unlike a certain segment of perpetually outraged youtubers.

[@80ssynth34]

most of right-tube is like, youtuber beef and cringe culture.. ew

[@westernhemlock]

And no one hides behind a stupid avatar, unlike much of the “skeptic” community

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

@@westernhemlock Shaun? Three Arrows? Bad Mouse?

[@westernhemlock]

Horny Fruit Flies hmm true

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

@LightNessITA KZbin's algorithm has a severe bias towards right-wing content, simply because the right-wing dominates KZbin. I watch one video criticizing someone like Jordan Peterson, and for a week my recommendations are filled with 500 hours worth of Jordan Peterson lectures, "Ben Shapiro obliterates libtards", Joe Rogan talking with right-wing nutcases, PragerU, Steven the coward Crowder , blatant fascists like BPS, and other filth like that.

[@rebekahcastro5430]

"Elon Musk was born in South Africa in 1971 having previously owned a slice of PayPal" No wonder he has an advantage, he owned PayPal before he existed and before he was even born

[@pepesilvia5936]

Wasn't he the heir to a blood diamond fortunate?

[@justinlumpkin1686]

No... Elon Musk founded X.com himself, which later merged with another company in 2010 (MUCH after he was born...) to FORM PayPal. He actually immigrated to the United States and was dirt poor. He worked blue collar jobs for a year and lived in poverty for a long time, look it up. He paid off his student loans by renting his apartment out to throw huge bangers. He's been programming since young age, and at age 12 he made his own video game. He's a genius. Come on now, don't play my mans!

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

@@justinlumpkin1686 Not quite.

[@Hankyman583]

@@justinlumpkin1686 let's be honest it's not a coincidence that he's a billionaire and his dad was also a billionaire who profited from blood diamonds

[@enterthevoidIi]

@@justinlumpkin1686 come on man, his dad was a billionaire, you really think that had nothing to do with his success

[@dragoncurveenthusiast]

The flirting worked on me. Sorry for lowering the level of discussion in this comment section

[@Sonny457859]

good Lord we're quite alone aren't we

[@flednanders7556]

It is an honor to be part of a comment section that is even high enough to be lowered at all.

[@goddessartemis85]

I legit blushed during that.

[@a.holland2262]

Me too lol

[@frozenbean]

No, he got me too.

[@JohnnySplendid]

Whenever Musk experiences the slightest criticism from a Twitter account with 79 followers, he publicly melts down and commits another blatant SEC violations. He may be the first billionaire to kill himself because he was cyberbullied.

[@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser]

It's called bad conscience.

[@caleb1031]

Some people are more neurotic than others. Some people put their whole being into personal projects.

[@richpryor9650]

Hey, remember when he slandered a rescue diver and used a tragedy to promote his brand? Long live Elon the Vindictive.

[@andrewmaingi255]

The guy literally said he doesn't respect the SEC , the same SEC that is soo slack on the big hedge funds and their numerous violations

[@blondaibonsai]

KZbin has been trying to get me to watch this for half a year, and now, just one minute in, I’m regretting that I didn’t watch sooner.

[@GrahamChapman]

KZbin used Flirt! But the move failed for 6 months! Then it was Super Effective!

[@unflexian]

Ask why.

[@skutch2439]

I nearly choked on my lunch at the shot of you throwing change against that tree. This might be my favorite video you've made yet!

[@8301TheJMan]

"Investment!" lol

[@b9brett]

Cutaway shots are a welcomed addition. Good Show Olly

[@HannibalHanslaughter]

+

[@andrisig]

lol!

[@melharhar]

If you throw enough change at a tree maybe the pieces that fly off will leave the shape of a chair one day.

[@KnowingBetter]

This is a big one, whether you're a marxist or whether you're not cool. 😂

[@thulyblu5486]

Marxism is cool? Oh yeah, those genocides were pretty sweet ^^ Go soviet Russia! Go Mao! Go Kim il Sung! Go Pol Pot! Fuck, Marxism was epic in the past. But I know what you think: That wasn't true Marxism even though they thought it was. Whatever. We'll make it happen for real, that's totally different (not sure why, but it is)!

[@xxyr]

@@thulyblu5486 r u okay

[@flashmanfred]

Thulyblu- you might wanna stop crying mate. Its a bit of a joke, no one is glorifying those things.

[@zarifhasan4191]

Thulyblu Capitalism kills 20 million people a year. Pol Pot was a Khmer ethno-nationalist (who was backed by the CIA) but the Mao and the USSR were cool actually.

[@DeoMachina]

Didn't Mao kill all those people tho

[@koalasquare2145]

I love how diversely artistic you are. I love the music the acting, the design and obviously the philosophy. Sure the singing isn't professional, but I really envy the breadth and creativity.

[@etherealworrier]

I very much appreciate the discussion of the video (and other videos you upload). The only thing that stuck out for me was that in the 'to buy or not to buy che guevara shirt' debate, it was never mentioned that you're still going to wear 'a' shirt, likely made in the same or a similar place under the same or similar conditions. The real point is to be completely aware of the fact that the counterculture symbol is being sold to you, and that buying it is no different to buying something non-counter-culture. Your emphasis on empathy with those who are being exploited though is on-point however, and that is the approach I think we should take, even as we are forced under capitalism to buy things that are stained by exploitation. On the internet in leftist circles I frequently hear the phrase: "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism," which I agree with, but I think it's still important we understand and empathise with the plight of those who suffer, even if we are largely powerless to help them through consumer choices. We should never 'wash our hands' of the problem just because we cannot solve it simply.

[@Zarakendog]

It costs more because paying workers more costs more for the employers

[@celinak5062]

+ Local food Fairer phone Guilty-free makeup Ifixit Veganism

[@chelsea1800]

Fair trade is obscenely expensive, especially if you consider that most fair trade companies are still companies that operate under wage labour and so no matter how much the workers are paid they are still not paid the full value of their product. Either the worker or the customer gets screwed. Plus, buying fair trade absolves of individual responsibility at best, makes things actively worse for exploited workers at worst. If a handful of people refuse to wear the unethically sourced Che Guevara shirt it doesn't actually have any impact on the company or the industry at large. Maybe some CEO has the idea of launching some fair trade subsidiary and selling overpriced "fair trade" things to a niche market, but that's it. If suddenly a statistically relevant amount of people were to boycott sweatshop labour, or computers built with unethically sourced materials and assembled in Chinese factories, then the owners of those companies wouldn't say "Yeesh, people really don't like us exploiting the poor. Let's give the poor money and then we'll make profit again, albeit less than we did before." No, they're going to say "Yeesh, sales are going down, better cut wages, lay off workers and make the remaining workers do double-shifts to maximise our profits." Imo, the only way to effectively use a boycott of unethical products is if the workers making those products are actively calling for one. If, say, some labour union in China made an announcement and told us that in this time frame we shouldn't buy products produced in their factories, so they can put pressure on their bosses for specific demands they've had time and resources to draw up, as well as deal with the backlash that's coming. Also boycotts, as very succinctly pointed out, need to be realistic for people below the poverty line. In the bus boycotts of 55/56 there were alternative buses provided by the organisers of the boycott so people could still get to work without driving themselves into bankruptcy. They didn't merely say "these bus companies are unethical, you should feel bad for using them". The second disadvantage of exclusively consuming 'ethically' is that you'd separate yourself from the average consumer - aka the common people, the masses, the proletariat, however you want to call them. In its logical extreme you'd be completely self-sufficient, probably in some mix of punk DIY-culture and urban farming, and never buy another thing in your entire life. That will remove basically any and all points of contact you have with people who aren't also self-sufficient urban agrarian punks and prevent practically any opportunity you might have to connect with people who are dissatisfied with capitalism (aka most of the world who are not rich, consciously or not) but who don't know much about the alternatives. TL;DR: There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but there is no ethical refusal of consumption under capitalism either.

[@mcFreaki]

this is exactly what's meant by "no ethical consumption under capitalism"

[@qwertzu239]

@TheBobBrom or buy second hand clothing since youre not supporting the exploitative industry by buying it (its already been bought), youre putting money in the local economy and theres enough stuff on this planet anyway so theres no new ecological footprint.

[@Andrew_Franklin]

12:06 to 13:14 is the most action I've gotten in months

[@reitheist]

Off topic, but I love his smile so much. Like it's so hard not to grin back.

[@UndiCreator]

Abby, you are a damn fine actress!

[@sisconhimejoshi]

T E C H D A D D Y Edit: I think soon the word “daddy” will become an actual part of Marxist terminology recognized by academics.

[@awlomthesheepermen]

Carl Krasnenky hello fellow child of the roses

[@oof-rr5nf]

One can hope!

[@Peter]

best olly video

[@DeoMachina]

It REALLY is. This has everything.

[@casersatz]

Antifa one is still the best content-wise, but this is definitely his best in terms of craft.

[@timtim9o5]

extract capital from me right now bby

[@ElectricDidact]

truth

[@junipermadd723]

all olly is best olly. also this one.

[@SpartanLord99]

I really love the mixing of content between you, Contrapoints, and Lindsay Ellis. It's been a lot of fun watching all of your videos, and being able to say, ah ha that's a very Contrapoints inspired joke. It is quite a lot of fun. Great Video btw, it's the first time someone has talked about Zizeck and I actually got what he was saying.

[@Zernium]

"What do Steve Jobs, Tony Stark, Bill Gates, and Elon Musk have in common? They're all fictional characters." Said by Abigail Thorn, pretending to be a man with a different name, pasted on the screen. Amazing foreshadowing! Mind blown! 🤯

[@QuillPGall]

I can never tell if I’m reading too much into the script or if stuff like this is intentional, but it’s totally possible

[@PRSRod]

I laughed so hard at the "INVESTMENT!!" part. Great video Olly!

[@cjdabes]

An hbomberguy AND PhilosophyTube video on the same day - my body is ready.

[@Icameron259]

End/beginning of the month is a common time to upload videos.

[@intothepale3551]

And Lindsay Ellis. How dare these gorgeous people flood my inbox with wonderous content

[@wxs09]

@@intothepale3551 Add folding ideas to the list too.

[@atelic7978]

and shaun!

[@wxs09]

@@atelic7978 How could we forget skull boy.

[@technicoloropossum5488]

Seeing these old videos is so... uncanny! The new you really does feel like the true you. Congratulations, again, dear Abigail.

[@SketchyHippopotamus]

At this point I feel like philontrapoints is just flirting with *us*

[@deauxnim9312]

In commulist BreadTube, potential couples ship YOU.

[@user-yr8ge3fz8o]

Part 3: Inspiring each other's video formats

[@titanuranus3095]

We are all the meat in a youtuber sandwich.

[@jdprettynails]

@@titanuranus3095 I'm surprisingly ok with this....

[@gorsh7870]

I like ContraSophy much more...

[@thehallwayceiling]

Great video! I disagree that charity is anti-capitalist. The norm that the poverty stricken and working class need to rely on the selective “goodwill” of the owner class to survive is a natural outgrowth of capitalism

[@flippydaflip5310]

It's "anti-capitalist" in the sense that it goes against the bullcrap pretexts capitalists themselves spout... and I think that's what Ollie was referencing. In truth, of course, it's little more to them than another investment (the "little more" here being their own ego-gratification, at best).

[@Mooseplatoon]

Flippy DaFlip I'd argue that it's far more complicated than ego. I believe that charitable donations in our society are more about optics. Drake's "God's Plan" scheme is the best example I can think of. Drake gave something close to a million dollars away, but it wasn't out of altruism. It was a calculated investment, even though it was not a direct one. Good-will and media attention are valuable resources to the modern capitalist, but they cannot be bought directly in the way one can purchase something like gold or stocks; as such, the savvy investor must find indirect ways of purchasing them. When an investor wants to purchase good-will for their brand, the simplest way to do that is to donate to charity. They donate their time/money, which has the outward appearance of going against their self-interest as a capitalist, but is actually one of the safest investments they can make in the long-term. Tax-breaks and other financial incentives only serve to make things murkier, morally speaking.

[@flippydaflip5310]

Well... yes.

[@FafliXx]

@@Mooseplatoon Tax breaks for charity make perfect sense though. It makes no sense for the government to basically have you pay a fine if you want to give to charity.

[@BigHenFor]

@@FafliXx Then where's the sacrifice? Tax Breaks in effect leave the donor whole. That is not charity. That is a 100% ROI before the publicity, and the good will and what else the donor gets out it. A palliative for at least their conscience. Elon is a case in point. He's now scuttling off to China and once he moves production there, what then of his American employees? Where's his charity for them. I suppose he'll look in the mirror and say to himself he's part of the solution but not of the problem. He'll be improving the life chances of the Chinese workers, as the American ones can look after themselves. All that being said is that when push comes to shove, the mask slips and we see the flesh beneath.

[@jackhanson1852]

Flirt with me Philosophy Daddy

[@SkittyBlackfire]

+

[@Matty002]

+2

[@sammy1933]

+5

[@thundergozon6439]

Don't flirt. Just get into the bedroom and f-

[@posthumously]

didn't expect a dramatic recreation of jesus' trial in a video about elon musk but ok. sure. makes sense

[@ANIpJs]

Here after the announcement of the baby name X Æ A-12 Musk. Jesus. This man is a real world cartoon supervillain.

[@chetankhope4348]

Can you really tell my why Elon musk is problem in this video? What's wrong with him according to people?

[@chetankhope4348]

@Milan Dolk then who really is genuine by today's standards, people say he's fake, gates is fake, jobs is fake then who really is that we should look into and get something? Seems that it's Better to be flawed and get criticised than just watching video made by some KZbinr who haven't tried what he did.

[@chetankhope4348]

@Milan Dolk Yea I quite had disagreement about what he said about Corona virus and I still do. I think he has he's flaws and I'm aware of it. I just think that sometimes media trying to portray him as mark. Even though I agree with you at some point

[@addisonshinedown]

chetan McConaughey it’s almost like all billionaires are bad

[@Poslouchajici]

I dont think those multi milionaires ever claimed to be anti capitalist

[@oroomar]

olly thorn just called me sexy and talented. depression is gone

[@blackshard641]

As a middle-class white cis American male, I felt deeply privileged to enjoy this video on a huge flat-screen TV hooked up to a rare-earth-mineral-filled PC, using a conveniently wireless controller and wireless headphones, all manufactured under exploitative conditions by overseas labor. Authenticity is hard.

[@SantaFishes101]

To whom? He already bought it. We need to do something physical for these people who make this shit, somehow. @gabriel

[@freddychopin]

Mine's OLED, even.

[@Guildm4ster]

@@SantaFishes101 We oughta just remove the vetoes of the WW2-countries and just reverse the colonialism with embargoes until the third world economy is equal. Or just topple capitalism, that always works.

[@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin]

Insist within your local political abstraction that reparations and real, long lasting, humanitarian development, like agriculture and housing, are necessary in these parts of the world at not only a non-profit, but a deficit to pay for the construction of this infrastructure? I dunno that's the best I got. Take construction workers lunch and living costs directly out of the stock market gains of the capitalists who profiteered off this imperialism? Assuming you manage to get to that point without already getting rid of the monetary icon as a unit of value.

[@kizza1645]

Yuck, this comment made me sick. What is wrong with you. Ewww

[@neruneri]

One of the examples of Liberal Communism that struck me the hardest and gave me the most cognitive dissonance was when I went into a local corner store and found Che Guevara branded Energy Drinks there. And I bought one. Ironically. When I finally got home, I just stared at it on and off for hours and had an intense feeling of cognitive dissonance, and in a sense it was one of the first real encounters I had with The Absurd (as Camus describes it) as a teenager.

[@kirstencorby8465]

The commodification of revolution. It boggles the mind.

[@benzarzour5512]

Olly you’ve really come into your own these past few years since you’ve left uni, I’ve been following you for years and I’ll hold my hands up I had a bit of a hiatus from your videos for a little while as some of the topics weren’t really appealing to me plus before uni started I had to learn philosophy in a very prescribed way in college anyways. But I’ve watched your content get better and better and I’m so happy for you, I love the new directions you’re going in with PT and I think that branching out and collabing with other youtubers as well as linking philosophy to other disciplines like you are has been amazing. Lots of love and glad to be back so regularly x

[@timsheehan1541]

Man. Getting ripped off for your labour is the standard. As an artist i was even more vunerable to working hard on things fpr people in a even hugely undervalued way because your passion gets exploited and others soak up the benefits of your labour

[@josephfoster1987]

Did you die or change jobs?

[@ReZhorw]

When you began to flirt with the camera I was blushing, and I am a guy.

[@valnerei9067]

ReZhorw He just has that effect

[@aryaazhari8896]

Maybe you are not straight

[@mehrdadfarzan9271]

Yeah imagine what we gays went through

[@Lylybeebee]

Yeah, I suppose that would explain the boyfriends he’s had in the past

[@MorganCPaige]

ReZhorw sounds gay, I’m in.

[@yuvalne]

I think one of my favourite demonstrations of Elon Musk's "wit" is how in May he lost ~$1 Billion with a single tweet. Edit: turns out it was actually 3 billion lmao

[@yuvalne]

@@baguettegott3409 said on twitter the Tesla stock is overpriced, getting it to drop 11% in a single night

[@fropps1]

YOUR SCRIPT IS WONDERFUL OLLY. YOUR SKITS ARE FUNNY. I ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIP AT PLAY HERE BUT I THINK YOU'RE A REALLY GOOD PERSON.

[@briankoontz1]

KZbin is a stage filled with Lords, of varying degrees of power. Google is the King, in whose domain the Lords live and swear fealty to. We are the peasants, who through our relative wealth over the barely living dispossessed billions of people without the access to and/or inclination to subject themselves to the "wisdom" of KZbin have the privilege of watching the Lords dance, ostensibly for our own benefit but either substantially or mostly for their own power, to allow them to bypass other Lords and to gain more favor with the King. A Parasocial relationship is a feeling by a Peasant toward a Lord. That is to say, it's the admiration and aspiration a peasant feels for a lord, who as we all know is far above him and can never be attained by him, just as an aspirational Dispossessed might have irrelevant feelings for a Peasant. Zizek claims to be a communist and we take him seriously, not because he's serious but because we ourselves are not serious. Zizek is lauding the game that we want to play - to pretend toward virtue while actually supporting the system of power that we ourselves benefit from. So Lord Olly, an aspirational figure who seeks to gain additional favor with the King, claims to be a revolutionary leftist, and probably mostly believes this himself. In order to appeal to a Peasant constituency that wants to pretend to be revolutionary one must actually believe one is revolutionary. The Material reality of King > Lords > Peasants > Dispossessed completely contradicts this nonsense game that Supreme Lord Zizek plays. The modern King has transcended humanity itself, becoming a corporation controlling the digital realm. The ONLY WAY to destroy the game is to redistribute wealth. There are no rhetorical or "educational" methods, no magical "Zizekian wisdom" that will lead to revolution. Only by flattening the economic reality of the world, by taking from current depositories of wealth and giving that wealth to the dispossessed FIRST, then when the dispossessed become peasants peasants will receive wealth, will the world become more democratic and humane.

[@anonymousperson1542]

Now his child is named something I cant even pronounce

[@randomalienfrommars0567]

it's all For The Meme. He's a Cool Guy.

[@thehuman2cs715]

@@randomalienfrommars0567 Dude he incited a coup in my country that's not very cool from him

[@randomalienfrommars0567]

@@thehuman2cs715 I was being sarcastic lol that being said can you tell me what incident you're talking about? More ammunition to debate the blind fanboys

[@jnyerere]

@@randomalienfrommars0567 Debating his fanboys gives them legitimacy. They have none.

[@randomalienfrommars0567]

@@jnyererei understand that and won't waste my breath..but as for legitimacy? tell that to his rapidly increasing fortune because of the people kissing up to him whenever he barely even breathes. ps. Knowing the incident will still be an interesting factoid tho

[@sophiaschier-hanson4163]

Never expected to hear Orthodox Christianity brought up even tangentially in a video about tech bros, but funny enough my godfather in the Orthodox church is one of the communalist hippies who ended up becoming programmers in Silicon Valley and he witnessed that particular cultural transformation firsthand. The pseudo-radical woke capitalist ideology that seems to pervade the whole area now is just noxious. Lovely explanation of basic Marxist theory and great music too! =)

[@hareema4442]

You godfather sounds like a rad dude

[@gaintmoleperson4660]

The fact that us in this generation praises a billionair is the most depressing thing ever......how are we not slaves yet

[@jeanf6295]

slaves are too expensive and are too much responsibility, it is best to put human ressources in common through a self managed lending system than to privately own them.

[@thelouster5815]

jean f No, slavery is cheaper. Make them live on their own while owning them and forcing them to perform work that you see fit. There’s a reason why slavery was defended by the Confederacy and is still practiced today in many parts of the world. The sole reason why corporations don’t use slavery is because it is considered a huge global taboo and is internationally illegal. If it were any less and they wouldn’t even hesitate to use slaves.

[@zonesquestiloveunderworld]

What do you mean? Half the world lives in conditions tantamount to slavery, or only slightly better. The enslavement has already begun, or rather, it began from the moment one human decided to dominate another, and will never, ever be rectified.

[@____-pb1lg]

Re-watching this like Elon is going crazy

[@cai6972]

We're seeing his true colors now

[@liz-sl1gl]

Jakotsu what did he do?😳

[@____-pb1lg]

@@liz-sl1gl he spewed some really dumb and unscientific things about the COVID and the goverment & hospitals response

[@appleslover]

@@liz-sl1gl and he protested U.S. lockdown (despite being the worst hit and handled in the world) calling them "fascist" (now tell me who is triggered and doesn't have an argument, daddy) .. Also saying " Give people their *FREEDOM* " Which would be interpreted as "Give me back my slaves" It's crazy how he became idolized and seen as a godlike figure by most people (including me a year ago) Now, we are seeing his true face

[@suides4810]

@@appleslover aw let the man be sad his coup failed too So sad.

[@BlauStilton]

Philosophy Chad DEMOLISHES Elon Musk

[@nerveagent1905]

@@retrozombie29 libertarian lol

[@guygex31]

Retro Zombie Elon musk is gonna send a man to Mars thanks to capitalism? Imagine saying That in a world where a communist country was for years the leader in space exploration. And when they ware finely overtaken it was done with taxpayers money.

[@guygex31]

Retro Zombie lol what is the most popular orbital launch system in history the one we still use to send people to the iss . Oh right it's the Soyuz not gonna tell you when and where it was developed. you're boy Elon btw bases (his engineers mostly ) lots of his rocket engine design on Russian designs from the Cold War. At least he haven't fallen for the "we good we did all good thing" trap. If you ever want to be successful like him I suggest that you start reading instead of repeating Cold War propaganda.

[@guygex31]

Retro Zombie atrocities in the ussr is huge topic one it is hard to discuss in KZbin comment section(the worst form of human communication) it's something we should learn from and have learned from for example . What happens when you empower the state instead of the working class directly? There are many thing one can learn from and improve upon by learning our history instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I hope you try...comrade

[@Dandraperuk]

How?

[@sunstripe]

This has got to be at least in your top 3 videos that you've made so far. This is really good stuff, Olly.

[@samshapira8295]

Watching older philosophy tube videos now that abby has come out is a bit weird now.

[@toyotaprius79]

weird good

[@gorsh7870]

Regarding the last bit... The problem I see is that both the complacency of not-talking about coltane and chinese workers, and the guilt of profiting off them by using the tools they make are, if taken to extremes, counter-revolutionary. Capitalism works that way, everything is tainted; we're always contradicting ourselves. We cannot escape stepping on someone else's head, even when actively trying to liberate them (or everyone) from this system, as the tools we use to fight for liberation (in this case, a camera and a computer) have been made under capitalist rules. The best we can do is to minimize the damage, be aware of it, and take small but decisive steps against it. To forget about the harm done would be to fully assimilate (as in "liberal"); but to focus on it completely would mean to become some sort of primitivist, effectively undermining the dissemination of your message, or shying away from any actions that need those tools to be effective. It's all muddy, but it's the mud we're all in.

[@bmj6763]

I love this comment.

[@Aryaveer_jadli]

So is the Chinese communism fine, or the Russian one. Communism never works, it never did.

[@newmoon4504]

Hearing you with a mostly American accent threw me through a loop

[@joelman1989]

I like how this video uses horror. Can't really say I've seen that used in KZbin video editing very often.

[@vishrutwatcheswhat]

Hbomberguy and ContraPoints use that aesthetic often

[@joelman1989]

@@vishrutwatcheswhat Yeah I'm very familiar with both. I've been following both for a lot longer than this channel and it's undeniable that he's been inspired by them. But I wouldn't call hbombreguy or contrapoints horror. Well unless we're talking about hbomberguys video on Cntrl+alt+Del which is one of my favorite youtube videos ever. But even in that one, it's not really horror it's kind of a parody of horror. In this video, there was a lot of subtle editing done that was legitimately creepy. Not just using the aesthetics of horror. But done deliberately to scare or unsettle you. I can't say I've ever felt unsettled by a video from hbomberguy or contrapoints. But that opening scene when his he starts laughing and the heartbeat rhythm is going on and the creepy music kicks in and his hands are suddenly stained with blood was unsettling in a way that evokes something horrific.

[@dethtolldotmid]

@@joelman1989 don't forget natalie's video about gender dysphoria. that was some seriously creepy kafka-esque shit

[@susannarita4259]

17:00 this is the moment you got me, it's so simple and so clear, I don't know how I didn't see it before. I always forget that the line is in this video, and thrilled when I come back and find it

[@Flowtail]

Jesus algorithymy, fine i will watch this video

[@nickhoschke6063]

"WHAT'VE THE ROMAN'S EVER DONE FOR US!? " "The roads?" "Sanitation?" "The aqueduct?" "The wine?" (general murmuring, 'oh yeah the wine'...) etc

[@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2]

If you give your slaves allowances, they won't know they're slaves. Like the reference, though.

[@finnianquail8881]

@@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2 ^ on both times

[@jadefalcon001]

I thought that scene was funny when I was a kid (grew up on Python), but the older I get the better that scene is. Fuckin' brilliant.

[@darkpoetry7771]

many are unaware that after the fall of rome humanity lost all forms of plumbing and water works for over 1,000 years before it was reinvented. That blew my mind an really shows just how fragile our level of progress is.

[@mrmoth26]

They copied the Greeks a lot.

[@xXBerslixx]

Elon Musk stands for Elongated Muskrat

[@gorsh7870]

ROFLMAO

[@abbycurry8115]

Yes Yes It Does Stand For That

[@spirithawk6580]

Forbidden truth

[@deathlyarmies6381]

Thomas and yet contributes more then you.

[@PCLHH]

@@deathlyarmies6381 Ach man, don't be so up Elon's arsh. He's just a boi from South Africa. He did a lot, but he's not perfect.

[@joaoedu1917]

This topic deserves a 2nd edition. After Mr. Elon went full bananas and pretty much revealed him as a comic-book super-villain. Look for a recent appearance on Joe Rogan in the height of covid which he was super frustrated (with what he kinda called mass delusion) and scary (tried to present that way) and talked about how people should get loans in order to afford getting Neuralink® chip into their heads and outperform the competition and succeed in the market (Even Rogan was like "wait, wat?").

[@jdatlas4668]

So, you said "went full bananas" in past tense and it's been a year, I think I've got some news from 2022 for you...

[@ThePragmatist839]

Coming to you from the future, the cusp of 2023… it got worse. We need two more videos at least.

[@Im_Ryan]

Bumping this again with all the Twitter fiasco