Why is the Midwifery Council scrapping the words 'mother' and 'women'?

[@alloytoo]

If Midwives don't know what a women is then we are in big trouble.

[@andrewnoble9199]

As an ex midwife. This is ridiculous. The word midwife means “with women” not her tribe or whether the world is flat. Insanity

[@daddybob6096]

@Andrew Noble. This is all part of the trend to introduce the superiority of one culture over the rest. Didn't the Nazi's do this? Who makes this crap up?

[@secondchance6603]

I sent an email back in July 2018, here's one of the questions I asked: "Will the word midwife be changed to a more non gendered description? I look forward to your reply." Here was the reply: "As for the term midwife - this is an internationally regulated title - so cannot be changed. It is also a gender neutral term which derives from middle English historically with ‘mid’ meaning with and ‘wife’ meaning woman. So essentially midwife means ‘with woman’. I hope this is helpful" Kind regards Lesley Dixon PhD, RM Midwifery Advisor: Practice advice & research development

[@daddybob6096]

@@secondchance6603 Thank you Lesley, i appreciate your comment. Robert. New Zealand Veteran Infantry Soldier.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

If only it were only insanity, it’s Frankfurt School cultural destruction in the form of destabilisation and demoralisation.

[@manawahinekorero9534]

@@secondchance6603 interesting, thank you for sharing Lesley.

[@berniefynn6623]

HOW is mother and women not inclusive????????

[@Eohippus100]

Maori WOMEN are also MOTHERS in english If you are speaking Maori then wahine is the word I believe

[@annethomson4920]

@@Eohippus100 them call them 5hatb, its the correct term .

[@t.t6191]

@@Eohippus100 we're not speaking Maori. We all know Wahine is Woman. You can also use Whaea for mother or mama. With the a's hyphenated. We are speaking English here. Maori women don't need acknowledging as mothers, we already know we are. The point is stop wasting time and money on rubbish and fund some resources that people can actually use.

[@lindsayscott4537]

Good on you Sean. Boy, these people are just bullshitting.

[@SoupDragonish]

Unfortunately, they are dead serious.

[@carmenslee6234]

The midwifery council should be ashamed of themselves! What utter bloody nonsense!

[@lynneharvey2977]

Our NZ health service is full of Alison Eddys who are afraid of saying it how it really is. The ones willing to stand up and speak have been gotten rid of. There has been a systematic wrecking ball taken to services to the public here by Jacindas govt. Professionals with strong ethics have been shut down, sacked, demoralised and thrown on the scrap heap. Here in the EBOP we are desperately short of midwives and Nurses because of the mandates. Changing words on paper is just a red herring.

[@1JimmyTheOne1]

It feels like this has nothing to do with race, and more to do with gender ideology, in other words controlling language. 🤔

[@MrCrazyrob666]

Spot on

[@delhiapr2009]

🎯

[@martinnewcombe6088]

Boom! Nailed it!

[@AvidReader101]

Like bloody pronouns it’s a form of compelled speech. If the council want to be more inclusive to the alphabet community then give the 1% of Trans Identifying Women their own special “term” and leave the rest of us (the 99%) using the words woman and mother. It’s not whānau giving birth and it’s not men. It is only women

[@joskempbaker831]

I agree, commandeering Te Reo, like deleting the language and common sense around what is a woman, is only using Maori culture as a scapegoat for these woke activists. Entrenching fear. What has happened to quality of care? People's health care is more important than the rhetoric being lobbed around to placate people who will never use the midwifery services!

[@paton57]

If she wants to keep her job she can't say otherwise, just more political bullying.

[@Eohippus100]

Yes she is carefully avoiding criticism of this stupid ruling

[@Michael-lg4wz]

Just like drs who were too scared to say the covid19 pfizer vaccine is ineffective and barely tested and not worth it for healthy < 35 year olds.

[@manawahinekorero9534]

Thank you Sean - and Alison and thank you whole heartedly for confirming that the College will not be removing the words 'woman' and 'mother' from the guidelines. On that you have our full support. Firstly, the Treaty says nothing about Midwifery as such, so there's that. Secondly, the proposed guidelines uses a new term 'kahu pōkai' for 'midwife' when in fact, we have always used wahine whakawhānau or in some cases the more generalised term for nurse 'tapui'. So even in using this new term 'kahu pōkai' not only is wahine(woman) erased but also the act of giving birth 'whakawhānau' is erased too. Odd given that Midwifery focus is about women giving birth...right? That is just the tip of the iceberg. We will be submitting a response to the Council on why we object to these new guidelines. Kia ora.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

Marvellous; best of luck! This has cheered me up somewhat. Kia kaha!

[@gerryshaw5430]

There is a more sinister intent behind the removal of such words; to kill the idea of the individual and subject that to the group or collective.

[@fionamorrison4935]

We can acknowledge different views without changing the fact that we are mothers and women. I would be totally offended if I was no longer referred to as a Mother or a woman, I am proud to be a mother and a woman and no one will take that away from me.

[@tim777ify]

What a load of BS

[@gayledenholm987]

Tim I totally agree!

[@donreeves4039]

Tim that's Arderns NZ in 2022 I'm afraid.

[@tim777ify]

They done the same over in the states these people must not understand basic biology

[@WhomistheBoss]

Women give birth. Biology 101. If there are others who give birth, please do tell. It will go down in the medical journals.

[@poncholarpez6233]

Mother and woman are exclusive for a reason. So they also want to discriminate against women and mothers which are a majority for the sake of a minority's feelings??!! Their version of inclusion is actually exclusion and oppression of people they dont like. Not everything has to be inclusive. We dont include sexual predators to have story time with young children, yet anyway. The wokeness is rampant and out of control in this country. Where are the academics with brains in all this?? They're supposed to be pushing back on behalf of the sane majority!!!

[@NA-sj9jy]

So now Father's Day, and Mother's Day, ate going to be switched out to just FWRnow day? As that's more Inclusive?

[@odrumcmydna]

I have to say Sean, I am very impressed with how you handled that conversation. Pushed when needed. Pausing and encouragement. Very well done…. The sad truth is that the result linguistically exposes the truth that their is a higher power trying to manipulate what people are suppose to say… it has infiltrated the schools with gender ideologies and language fascism. Sorry for the late rant there, was only meant to compliment you Sean. Well done

[@Mysterx1440]

I disagree, he went really close to losing his cool, again. He could have gotten more if he has been patient and a bit more skilled. Alison was more impressive 😂

[@odrumcmydna]

@@Mysterx1440 ok 👍🏼

[@georgeminty6218]

I agree whole heartedly Laura. What a bunch of fools.

[@yorkieinnz4648]

NZCM chief executive Alison Eddy said in a recent RNZ interview " While they did not have data on how many midwives had left their jobs over the vaccine mandate, it had caused an exacerbation of existing workforce shortages". So just cancel the unjust mandates for health workers and get some relief for the overworked staff.

[@zrymill]

That would make too much common sense and its not allowed. Insanity has to rule.

[@optimumperformance]

She wont answer the one simple question

[@headmondronary2127]

Alison will no longer be promoted because she stepped out of line and spoke common sense which is sincere regarding delivering babies safely.

[@magamike1800]

Woke progress cant be stopped, it cant be explained either.

[@mariabarnard4484]

People all too often willingly accepting lies - only way to explain it.

[@Chickiwi]

It can be both explained, and discouraged. Please do not lie down and die whilst they attempt to redefine a comprehensive world to become incomprehensible.

[@magamike1800]

@@Chickiwi NZ is a write off. I realized that when Jacinda was re elected. I am out. I am not raising my kids in NZ.

[@shoutatthesky]

It can definitely be stopped and it must be.

[@tatjanakane503]

Good on you Alison, for not recommending words “mother” and “woman” to be removed. I’m both a mother and a woman and will always stay so. I don’t want any correspondence with me to be called correspondence with “whanau”.

[@markhoffman9655]

Apparently they've been pressured by the Labour Party junta ... so what if a person who is pregnant wants to identify as a "Mother"?

[@haroldgodwinson832]

Not allowed m8. That's racist!

[@barrycuda3769]

They are taking into consideration that there might be some pregnant fathers that dont want to be labeled as mothers ' and fair enough I say.

[@Eohippus100]

@@barrycuda3769 HaHa

[@cathyrussell2660]

I don’t acknowledge any Māori word. I have a “family” and live in “New Zealand”. I am a woman (adult female human) married to a man (adult male human). All the current bs is simply bs.

[@andreatodd3095]

Go Cathy 🙂 well said!

[@eileencoulter6263]

Yep agree,

[@debbielacey6229]

My Dear Cathy, 💘🙏💘 I LOVE 💕your COMMENT. Yes I totally agree with you Cathy. I am sick and tired of ALL this BS. We are all New Zealanders of different cultures which I love as it's great to learn from everyone. It is TIME all this BS STOPS 🛑 ✋Midwives are very essential for all our "MOTHERS" and yes in our country we need more. One of my girlfriends who was a midwife as she has retired now, I take my hat off to her well all of them I do. They are very special "WOMAN" that do a fantastic job in their communities. It's the same as Plunket Nurses. Much love 💕and blessings 🙏to you and your family from me. Debbie. 💚💜💚💜

[@Draqoni333]

And comments worded like that is how we people end up being called far right and racist. I agree with everything you said except the first sentence. Why point out first and foremost that you won't even acknowledge Maori language? You are effectively blaming your country's entire indigenous culture by not acknowledging even one word and why? It's the government's blatent misuse of the culture to divide NZ, and a few Maori elite helping them destroy both sides. It looks good for Maori on TV but yet they are still the poorest and least educated in the country. If we divide and blame each other instead of joining forces against the hypocrisy, then these elite muppets have already won. Don't turn your back on fellow countrymen because a few are greedy gov ass kissers. I acknowledge all cultures and every word. I don't acknowledge our corrupt government shaping a culture to the own ends. They wish to claim Maori rights and Maori are too blind to see the big picture.

[@shoutatthesky]

Your comment is unhelpful and irrelevant.

[@Telcontarnz]

This is quite scary really. Newspeak…

[@andreatodd3095]

Soon children won't be able to call their Mothers Mum, Fathers Dad, etc Enough already!!!

[@vanessamay3689]

To break up the family.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

The health system is collapsing and this is what they come up with .

[@J67844]

Im getting sick of the term "Maori World View"!🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🙉

[@jasperhorace7147]

Nothing wrong with the term. It’s when it’s forced on the rest of us and is held up to be soooooo much better that it’s sickening. Maori are welcome to any view of the world they want as long as my world view is acknowledged, given equal credence and equal importance. And that’s not happening with Adolf Ardern in power.

[@Eohippus100]

@@jasperhorace7147 Adolf Arnern is right

[@junit7590]

@@jasperhorace7147 it doesn't make sense or mean anything though, hence why at the pub 6 Maori blokes having a beer will still debate things and have different opinions.

[@ajc389]

Political correctness won't undo nine months of smoking when pregnant.

[@Atmosnofear]

The level of wokeism in Alison's replies tells the whole story. Changing the wording doesn't deliver any better midwifery service to 'women' and 'mothers', but Alison wasn't prepared to say that. When you can't tell the truth, you're left with telling lies. And a half-truth is worth the same as a full lie. Well done Sean. Keep up the great work!

[@optimumperformance]

A waste of money that could go to the midwives

[@andreatodd3095]

The women they are assisting should be asked how they wish to be addressed, that would be personalized and make her feel at ease. Yes more rubbish being exposed every day. 😔

[@patriciagraham222]

Yes we are sinking!

[@daddybob6096]

@Andrea Todd. Well said Andrea.

[@MrDmunk]

Thankyou Sean and Allison for the Interview

[@lilith3953]

getting rid of the words mother and woman is obviously to placate trans activists, not to improve maori health outcomes. Pretending otherwise is extremely disengenous.

[@geofflewis8599]

if they want to improve Maori health outcomes, find who murdered Ruthless Empire.. the Kahui twins etc..

[@kenhembry6581]

Well done Sean for challenging this unacceptable situation It is unacceptab le on every level/ Mother = a female parent.

[@gregidour7315]

Maybe they should drop the word WIFE from Midwife while they're at it!!

[@secondchance6603]

I sent an email back in July 2018, here's one of the questions I asked: "Will the word midwife be changed to a more non gendered description? I look forward to your reply." Here was the reply: "As for the term midwife - this is an internationally regulated title - so cannot be changed. It is also a gender neutral term which derives from middle English historically with ‘mid’ meaning with and I sent an email back in July 2018, here's one of the questions I asked: "Will the word midwife be changed to a more non gendered description? I look forward to your reply." Here was the reply: "As for the term midwife - this is an internationally regulated title - so cannot be changed. It is also a gender neutral term which derives from middle English historically with ‘mid’ meaning with and ‘wife’ meaning woman. So essentially midwife means ‘with woman’. I hope this is helpful" Kind regards Lesley Dixon PhD, RM Midwifery Advisor: Practice advice & research development I hope this is helpful" Kind regards Lesley Dixon PhD, RM Midwifery Advisor: Practice advice & research development Notice how it's a "gender neutral term" but means "‘wife’ meaning woman" How bizarre!

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

It's midwiff🤭

[@selwyndyer8357]

The country is turning to crap,if Māori want the term whanau then use it for them,not for every body.and as you say political clap trap,she has no idea what’s she saying,bend the name,let’s vote this govt out.

[@Eohippus100]

Yes you are right The country is turning to crap

[@user-rf9ws7hp3e]

She couldn’t answer the simplest questions 😂😂 That should tell you everything you need to know !

[@andreatodd3095]

She wisely caved.

[@brianmarshall1762]

Improving the health of Maori in the country will not be done by changing the language. That’s all deflection. Seen as doing something rather than tackle the actual underlying issues that make up the poor statistics.

[@jasperhorace7147]

But that’s been Ardern’s approach right from the beginning. She has never been able to distinguish saying from doing. Seems to think that because she said it, it will automatically happen.

[@fumblebee4234]

OMG these people are completely bonkers. Do we have 'midpersons' now and not midwives?

[@johnburnett3942]

Come on, at a time when we are in a serious situation, rising prices for food, costs of living, etc. Is it time to change some names. Or is this just a distraction, to the lack of leadership by this government.

[@nickdavis3177]

This is an absolute load of crap last week stuff add an article complaining too many pakeha are speaking Maori and an Auckland professor has been given $360,000 to work out how match harm this is doing to Maori first they want to shove it down our throats and when we Speak more than them it's not fair

[@november50]

I think it's called woke equality?

[@kiwiyogi2846]

Isn’t it cultural appropriation too?

[@november50]

@@kiwiyogi2846 sure is.

[@darrellancaster7808]

Go to the Australian senate where a medical doctor is asked to define woman and cannot despite Biology 101

[@ducker09]

That waky "PERSON" . I LAUGHED . SHE DANCED ON.THE POINT OF A PIN .

[@marktaylor5928]

Renaming it far now (lol) is not inclusive, it's divisive.

[@NA-sj9jy]

Yes, this is the feeling I'm getting....it's going to cause much grief to our amazing Maori people's. And I feel it's going to get extremely difficult for some, and push backs. It's a disgrace from our Government. We don't want a bar of this crap.

[@mcgruff3309]

I was going to say It's a Woman's world, But thats not allowed 🤣

[@eventerry9093]

Well this shows the priorities of government agencies agendas, what happened to the other priorities they spouted over the last 8yrs. Maybe get back to this when government agencies are functional and economic. Fuk it lets do road signs in maiori and we can all drive round lost but vertueous.

[@unclejoe7958]

Maori women already have access to ‘separate’ Maori only midwives. Why change something that isn’t broken. I still haven’t met any Pakeha midwives who only cater for Pakeha women.

[@anniejackson3799]

Brilliant work Sean 🙌

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

When we're speaking English, we're speaking English. Maori words make it into our everyday language but it's an organic process. Let's not have Maori foisted on us by the cringing woke.

[@annegribben444]

For gods sake Craig ...WE LIVE IN A VASTLY INCLUSIVE CULTURAL WORLD NOW MASSES OF DIFFERENT CULTURES.....WE ARE NOT IN A BACKBLOCK OF JUST A BRITISH ENGLISH EMPIRE ANYMORE MATE .....AND MAORI HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED LONG ENOUGH ....THE OPRESSION OF CULTURES AND THEIR LANGUAGES WAS ONCE A WELL WORN WESPONIZED WAR TOOL TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER....WE AREN'T AT WAR ANY LONGER CRAIG ...AND ONE LANGUAGE OVER ANOTHER OR CULTURE IS NOT MORE APT THAN ANOTHER .....AND MIGHT I ADD WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY WHERE ALL PAYTAXES AND ALL HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS AND FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE EXTEND TO MAORI INCLUSION NOT JUST YOUR STRICT IDEAS MATE...GO TO CHINA AYE.

[@danfernandes2121]

It’s sad because the jamming down the throat te reo will only cause more division and set back years of integration instead as you said allowing an organic evolution of the language.

[@someonewhocares5924]

Changing names of organisations and word definition is all our toothless government does

[@Theresa-td8yk]

How Embarrassing 😔

[@Chickiwi]

Thanks Sean. I appreciate your line of direct and relevant questioning..

[@itsjustweard2328]

Im going to be a mother .And if I wish you will call me a mother .People can't speak their mind anymore because they lose their jobs fact.

[@MrMarcol29]

The Mothers were a bikie gang from Palmerston North. 😂

[@Eohippus100]

HaHa

[@jester8790]

Also "just another band from L.A."

[@acegikmoii]

It's amazing how people, who rely on gov't funding, are literally hostage to the fear of dissent. Good on you Sean for persisting - it took Alison 11 minutes to come round to a clear answer to your "yes/No" question.

[@andrewcampbell2903]

OK , The words 'mother' and ' midwife ' are replaced with the word 'whanau ' . So , logically we might assume that the whanau is having the baby , and also performing the midwife role . So , who is taking professional responsibility ? It looks like the word ' no-one ' , doesn't it ?

[@21johnsviewtrrce]

Could be worse, they might use birthing person

[@manawahinekorero9534]

That'll be next.

[@Ronny.81]

That's coming soon

[@kiwigecko1]

It all goes back to time and time again ....This Government...Oh dear.!

[@arawiri]

Scrap it out and throw it away

[@t.t6191]

Whats words got to being healthy? Having a healthy baby is about the words used and that will make more Maori people what? I'm Maori, i had three children in Auckland 1997, 2000 and 2001, 1 in middlemore, 2 at National Women and it was awesome. Excellent care. 2 awesome English midwives. Shared care with the dr and midwife. I listen to the advice. I didn't smoke or drink. I was young and strong. I didn't eat seafood at all or prepared salads or McDonald's even because of food poisoning. I had a good partner who had a JOB. I had my family support. I rested well. Btw NOT SHUTTING DOWN NATIONAL WOMENS HOSPITAL might've helped. Good information on pregnancy. Plunket nurses were awesome support. They don't even have that in Australia. I am a Woman. End of story. Use Wahine if you want to include Maori words not Whanau. Wrong word.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

Yeah , good input is rewarded with good outcomes .

[@brutallyremastered4255]

Your experience is wonderful to read but I believe the debate is important as we are looking at fundamental changes to New Zealand that will start at this level. Controlling language is very important as it reframes how things are perceived and thus acted upon…eventually. All best!

[@jennyhart4587]

absolutely ridiculous,but very much a kick in the teeth for mums who.lets face it, do the greatest job on earth...

[@markturner2971]

New Zealand 🇳🇿 has been run into the ground by successive governments while billions has been squandered on the bogus treaty industry, get rid of it New Zealand 🇳🇿, vote it out. Binding Referendum.

[@tinamitchell7496]

She was clearly professionally gagged. I thought you handled it well. Generally I applaud your persistence, but this woman was a professional spokesperson whereas the undertaker was just a bloke who was a human, deeply concerned about what he was observing in his work.

[@socialite1283]

There is nothing "nuanced" about it. Females give birth - and the word for an adult female human is "woman", and the word for a woman who has given birth is "mother". That is clear and unambiguous.

[@johnlowe8418]

One more year...

[@maidaursuladawn44glasgow3]

This removing of woman and mother I find an inexcusable insult to me as a mother and a woman I do not think this is going to help anyone.

[@MrsWishieWashy]

As an expectant mother, i have been very weary of this issue. I think we already get an amazing level of service from our midwives. I also believe that we are very lucky to be able to choose from a variety of midwives and their talents, beliefs and skill sets. I don’t see how removing mother and woman and replacing it with Māori words will help improve services. I do think that more support for the midwives via funding and more staff would benefit mothers and families more. This is just a joke and so is our virtue signalling government.

[@MsMounen]

Poor Alison. That was like pulling teeth.

[@patriciagraham222]

When dealing with English speakers speak English, indian mum's to be speak their language, Chinese mum's to be speak Chinese, Maori mum's to be speak Maori - see where that gets us - probably less helpful to the mum's to be! Stop this unnecessary division - divided we fall......

[@GoldieGold356]

How many men have given birth?

[@Eohippus100]

Stick around they will produce some half baked story

[@olsim1730]

None ever in the history of the universe.

[@NA-sj9jy]

@@olsim1730 - the male sea horse gives birth though.

[@olsim1730]

@@NA-sj9jy touche' I did know that..thanks for reminder 🙏

[@olsim1730]

Whether or not a seahorse identifies as a "man" is between you and the seahorse though..haha!

[@southpacific222]

FFS!

[@eileencoulter6263]

If a mid wife said that to me, I'd say good bye,I'm a European woman ,end of story

[@Eohippus100]

I wouldn't do that There are no other midwives (a shortage due to serious underfunding)

[@eileencoulter6263]

@@Eohippus100 oh yes I would ,that's the problem no one stands up to this bullshit and it's gets worse for every woman

[@Eohippus100]

@@eileencoulter6263 Sure I agree this disastrous government needs opposition , but to give birth with even the limited expertise of a midwife would risk an even more serious outcome or your baby

[@Jimmy-ns4on]

Hi Sean, what happened to the interview with Lynda Wharton. I thought the platform was independent, apparently not. Or did youtube put the heavies on you guys? Head over to rumble maybe?

[@Yhf6649]

What a load of crap. Changing out mothers/ women is crazy. They are scared to be straight talkers.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I think poor Alison's job depends on her denying certain facts.

[@markstephens5118]

OMG management (especially government departments and tax payer funded entity's) is spending so much time on this sort of nonsense that i have to ask if this is being coursed by having no resources to fix real problems so they have to be seen to do something to justify their salaries?.

[@vjbond3945]

You honesty can't be serious, what the f#ck has this world come to

[@terri-annejoyce2164]

Nooooo... don't go woke

[@robertmiller2173]

Good they aren’t going to get rid of Mothers or Women! Mother hood is a special vocation! I still love my mum and I am nearly 70 years old, mum has passed on God Bless her! Love you Mum! Surprisingly my Mother was a Woman and not a TGXYZQTR*$#…..what ever that is. I am so pleased my mother was a woman!!!!!!!

[@MI.101]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions (aka inclusivity)

[@jenniferreihana5155]

What a load of bs for zero gain. I wasn't brought up using Maori words and I 'choose' not to now. Why try to enforce a language on a country that seems to be not recognised internationally? No point!

[@LZAK123]

Hahaha. It sounds like Alison private opinion is different from her public one lol

[@birgitjevremovic9783]

what a load of BS from Alison

[@donreeves4039]

Hey , you are either CENSORING your blog or yooootooob are, which one is it??

[@delanielockhart9380]

Do they think calling it by Maori words, this will help reduce infant mortality rates? Educate the parents so the babies have the best chance of survival - something that in this day of excessive drug use and poor diet would undoubtedly have a far more beneficial impact.

[@user-rl5nd3ys8p]

Midspouse surely

[@waynehawtin6413]

FFS Sean, it doesn't stop

[@marktaylor5928]

What will they name men giving birth?

[@Eohippus100]

Wahimen

[@annethomson4920]

Men can't give birth , only women identifying as men, they are still women

[@marktaylor5928]

@@annethomson4920 according to the woke left lbqtxyz#123 community men can get pregnant and give birth.

[@november50]

Wharepaku?

[@danielthomas8507]

freaks

[@barbarahollowayscott1998]

I would never go back to using with this crazy woke-ism !

[@elizabethbradley4301]

Add an extra word in the sentence, you don't remove words from one persons culture to have another, that is a massive cultural and abuse to all mothers and women in the english culture. If you want a maori representation, make a maori version of the education, also the level of ignorance of the fact that maori are also english just shows the immense cultural ignorance of our country. Changing a word from mother to whanau just shows massive ignorance as to what truly is the issue, you need to grow up and stop segregating our races and messing with mixed race families.

[@MsChitterchat]

This just sexist bs. The irony!!

[@bennichols1113]

That was like Neo in slow motion.

[@NA-sj9jy]

So Father is a FARNOW? then? No longer any Father's Day? It's just going to be called FARNOW Day? Same for Mother's Day? Every member of the family, is now not a brother, or sister, or daughter, son, Aunty etc...just a FARNOW? So we throw all those wonderful English words away....and dumb us all down to a faceless non descriptive, meaningless word....FARNOW.....got it.

[@coronavirusplushie6948]

Thanks Sean, and this is meant to be constructive - can you not see how often you cut off the person you are talking with, and not let them finish their sentence? I don't think it's a good way of conducting an interview. If anyone else agrees with me on this, please let Sean know by thumbing up this comment.

[@mikeholling8830]

Yeah you might have a point but it would be very hard not interrupt when your subjected to rubbish like this, don’t think I could keep my mouth shut either.

[@Draqoni333]

So the problem is with mortality rates. How does this even remotely solve the problem? How about the focus shifts to why so many Maori live in poverty when nearly all the iwi have been paid out? Why is there so many Maori children living on the breadline? The stretch to this being a solution is so illogical it beggars belief.

[@dougbulldog9947]

Midwifes are awesome, special kind of people, thankyou for your service. If scrapping the words 'mother' and 'women' will improve the outcomes of 20% births, my question is; what positive or negative impact this may have on the other 80% of 'mothers' and 'women' if any? I'm sure this has been well thought through by all those smart 🌈cookies at Jacinda and Mahuta's awesome co-government.🌗

[@anthonycampbell1366]

That's why there's a maori health system and that system left me disabled due to lack of treatment and incontinence hope they don't kill babies.

[@neilstuarr2278]

Darn stupid stuff Sean now woman is a dirty word

[@geofflewis8599]

If you want to see the' Maori world view' - check out life before the introduction of British Law..

[@johnobrien3469]

Aren’t ordinary people absolutely sick and tired of the woke BS? Time to take a stand and tell them where to stick all of their woke crap!

[@peterthepakeha2799]

Go woke go broke.